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Speaker 1: This is alec Ingold, the Miami Dolphins nominee for the
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Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year Award in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: And this is the NFL Report.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was in the Week fourteen edition of
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Speaker 3: the NFL Report.
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Speaker 2: I'm Steve Whitch.
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Speaker 3: That's James Palmer, and you just heard alec Ingol to
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Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins. They play Monday night is part of
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Speaker 3: a doubleheader. As you can see by the rolling lights
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Speaker 3: behind me. I am at Flowery Branch, the Atlanta Falcons facility.
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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about me. More about that a
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Speaker 3: little bit later on. But jp as great of a
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Speaker 3: seat as I have in my own stomping grounds, you
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Speaker 3: had the best seat in the house at Arrowhead Stadium
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Speaker 3: on Sunday night watching the crazy finish between the Chiefs
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Speaker 3: and the Bills that resulted in mad controversy, Well at
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Speaker 3: least from the chief side. Tell us from that bird's
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Speaker 3: eye view you had of that play involving Travis Kelcey
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Speaker 3: and Kadarius Tony on the Chiefs that actually never really happened,
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Speaker 3: I guess yeah.
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Speaker 4: And Patrick Mahomes believes that it is ruining Travis Kelcey's
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Speaker 4: legacy as a Hall of Fame player. I'm not sure
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Speaker 4: if that's entirely true, but that shows you how angry
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Speaker 4: Mahomes was postgame during his press conference.
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Speaker 2: I will tell you this.
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Speaker 4: I am on the chief sideline, Steve, at the twenty
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Speaker 4: five yard line, exactly where Kadarius Tony catches the lateral
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Speaker 4: from Travis Kelcey, and in front of me, I'm watching,
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Speaker 4: in my opinion, one of the greatest NFL plays unfold.
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Speaker 2: To win a game, well, we could say win a game.
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Speaker 4: They were leaving about a minute left on the clock
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Speaker 4: for Josh Allen, and we know the way the end
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Speaker 4: of the games between the Bills and Chiefs are every
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Speaker 4: time they match up. But this play gets called back
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Speaker 4: for Kadarius Tony lining up in the neutral zone and
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Speaker 4: who did arrowhead erupt? Refs, you suck all these different
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Speaker 4: things being chanted. There were three more plays that the
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Speaker 4: Chiefs ran after this, but there was no way they
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Speaker 4: were going to come back and gather themselves after what
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Speaker 4: they went through with that play getting called back. Patrick
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Speaker 4: Mahomes was, I was on the sideline watching him argue
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Speaker 4: with the official still before the game was over. In
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Speaker 4: a timeout, Steve while they're still trying to figure out
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Speaker 4: a way to get a first down, and they had
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Speaker 4: just lost everything. Because once again they have five losses
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Speaker 4: this season. You could say a wide receiver making mistake
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Speaker 4: in the final minutes of the game have cost him
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Speaker 4: in all five of those losses. Now we will say this,
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Speaker 4: what does every receiver do, Steve when they get to
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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage? Andy Reid said, Kadarius Tony never
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Speaker 4: did that.
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Speaker 3: Explain it, and you'll see all across the NFL, well
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Speaker 3: actually all across every high school field, wide receivers will
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Speaker 3: usually look to the line judge and say, am I good.
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Speaker 3: Kadarius Tony if you're listening to the podcast or showing
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Speaker 3: the video where he's looking at the center the entire time,
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Speaker 3: he never looks at the line judge and say, am
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Speaker 3: I lined up properly or improperly? So that's what resulted
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Speaker 3: in him lining up off side and the flag was
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Speaker 3: thrown right away. All those people's screaming the refs, you suck,
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Speaker 3: are acting like the Reughs through it. At the end
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Speaker 3: of the play, after the spectacular finish, that wasn't the case.
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Speaker 3: But as you know, as you mentioned, JP tempers erupted.
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Speaker 3: Let's listen to head coach Andy Reid and quarterback Patrick
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Speaker 3: Mahomes post.
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Speaker 2: Game of that big loss.
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Speaker 5: Should I mean, it's obviously tough to swallow. I mean,
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Speaker 5: not not only for me, but just for football in general.
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Speaker 5: I mean, just to take away greatness like that. I mean,
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Speaker 5: for a guy like Travis to make a play like that,
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Speaker 5: and who knows if we win. But as I know,
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Speaker 5: as fans, you want to see the guys on the
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Speaker 5: field decide the game. And that's why last week I
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Speaker 5: didn't say anything about the flag. They didn't get called
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Speaker 5: on the Marquez and so I mean, I mean, they're human, man.
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Speaker 5: They made mistakes. But I mean it's every week we're
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Speaker 5: talking about something and all I can do is go
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Speaker 5: out there and give everything I have, and I'm proud
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Speaker 5: of the guys. That's what we did. And it was
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Speaker 5: a great football game that ended. Another great football game
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Speaker 5: that just ended like that.
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Speaker 6: It's just tough, very disappointed that it ended the way
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Speaker 6: it did. Normally, I'll get I never use any of
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Speaker 6: this is excuses, but I'm not in a warning before
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Speaker 6: something like that happens in a big game. I've been
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Speaker 6: embarrassing in the National Football League for that to take place.
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Speaker 4: Steeve, I really think watching Patrick Mahomes and standing on
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Speaker 4: that sideline, it really honestly took almost the entire offensive
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Speaker 4: line to hold him back after they didn't convert on
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Speaker 4: that fourth down, to keep him from the officials. I've
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Speaker 4: never seen Patrick Mahomes that irritated, that infuriated, and I
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Speaker 4: think it's a microcosm of what's happened with this team
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Speaker 4: and the way they've shot themselves in the foot, specifically
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Speaker 4: late in games. It's been their own mistakes a lot
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Speaker 4: with the receiver position and mann did Patrick Mahomes boil
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Speaker 4: over on the sideline throwing his helmet. It all happened
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Speaker 4: right in front of me, and you can tell this
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Speaker 4: season is starting to wear on him a little bit
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Speaker 4: as they regroup and try to go to New England
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Speaker 4: and get back on track next Sunday.
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Speaker 3: So to that point, JP, let's get to our annual,
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Speaker 3: our weekly I should say, Hey, Monday. Second bigger news.
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Speaker 3: The Kansas City Chiefs lose at Big Game to the
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Speaker 3: Bills and the Philadelphia Eagles lose to Dallas Cowboys. So
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Speaker 3: both teams in the Super Bowl last year. They're kind
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Speaker 3: of falling back to earth a little bit. So James
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Speaker 3: bigger news the Chiefs flaws or the Eagles flaws.
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Speaker 4: I hate to say this to my hometown team, but
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Speaker 4: I think the Eagles flaws are bigger right now because
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Speaker 4: they consist on both sides of the ball. Let's start
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Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball. They right now
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Speaker 4: Steve sid twenty third in turner of a differential at
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Speaker 4: negative four. They were third in the NFL in turnover
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Speaker 4: differential last year. They protected the football. They have as
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Speaker 4: many turnovers right now as they did all of last season,
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Speaker 4: and that's been an issue. Not just what Jalen hurts,
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Speaker 4: but you saw fumble from each star receiver against the
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Speaker 4: Cowboys Sunday night. You've seen them have issues running the
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Speaker 4: football now. I do think they can correct some of
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Speaker 4: the things that are on offense because they have so
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Speaker 4: much talent, But right now, a lot of things need
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Speaker 4: to be corrected on the offensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 4: And when I look in the defensive side of the ball,
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Speaker 4: they're not turning the football over.
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Speaker 2: But also more.
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Speaker 4: Importantly, they can't stop anybody in the red zone. They
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Speaker 4: came into that game ranked twenty ninth. What were the
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Speaker 4: Cowboys in the red zone three for three. They can't
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Speaker 4: stop anybody on third down. They are dead last in
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Speaker 4: the NFL in terms of getting off the field on
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Speaker 4: third down. They are not as deep as they were
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Speaker 4: up front. Seventy sacks a season ago. They have thirty
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Speaker 4: seven right now. They're middle of the pack and they're
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Speaker 4: having guys play a lot more snaps. There's issue at linebacker,
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Speaker 4: issue at slot. I think them Eagles right now in
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Speaker 4: terms of flaws, because they consist on both sides of
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Speaker 4: the ball, is a bigger deal to correct before both
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Speaker 4: these teams head into the postseason.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. We had JP a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: You were talking about on Nick Sirianni and the Eagles
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Speaker 3: go over situational football so intensely great point a week
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Speaker 3: after week, and right now it is failing in part
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Speaker 3: because some of the personnel issues that you have. But
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Speaker 3: the bigger flaws are with the Kansas City Chiefs and
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Speaker 3: hear me out here, laws aren't okig right. It's not personnel.
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Speaker 3: Even though they need Isaiah p a checko back in
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Speaker 3: that backfield to run the football. Their flaws are the
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Speaker 3: same things we've been talking about all season long. The
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Speaker 3: wide receiver is not delivering and freaking penalties. They entered
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Speaker 3: this game with fifteen offensive penalties in their last three
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Speaker 3: games for one hundred and fifty yards. So we're talking
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Speaker 3: about the negative one hundred and fifty.
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Speaker 2: But what does it do.
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Speaker 3: It stops momentum, right, it goes from a second one
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Speaker 3: to a first and sixteen things like that. And what
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Speaker 3: happened in that game, Kadarius Tony, a wide receiver lined
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Speaker 3: up off sides to spoil a potential victory. They had
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Speaker 3: drops again. But I think it is the penalties, and
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Speaker 3: these are so fixable. That's why I say their flaws
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Speaker 3: are a bigger issue because they have been chronic jp
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Speaker 3: which is very unlike an Andy Reid football team.
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Speaker 2: Very much so.
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Speaker 4: And the issues in the red zone as an all,
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Speaker 4: arguably the best red zone offense in football a season ago,
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Speaker 4: they haven't been anywhere near that this season. And the
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Speaker 4: reason I didn't pick the Chiefs is I do think,
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Speaker 4: Steve they have one of the best defenses in football.
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Speaker 2: Still.
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Speaker 4: Jeff Chitty doesn't think that. He's coming up on the
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Speaker 4: show a little bit later. I'm gonna argue with him
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Speaker 4: about it. But I do think their flaws are on
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Speaker 4: one side. Maybe they can hang on to hang their
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Speaker 4: hat on that defense. We're gonna have more on the
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Speaker 4: Cowboys side of that thing. As we mentioned the Eagles
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Speaker 4: earlier with Jane Slater a little bit later in the show.
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Speaker 4: But Steve also the Bills get a massive win in
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Speaker 4: this game, so real quick in terms of the ending
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Speaker 4: our bigger news situation here. How massive was this for
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Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills to come out of Arrowhead with this win,
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Speaker 4: they essentially need to win out. I don't think anybody
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Speaker 4: wants to play them in the postseason. They have a
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Speaker 4: gauntlet of a finale to finish this season, but they
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Speaker 4: still are very dangerous, especially if they can find a
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Speaker 4: way into postseason play.
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Speaker 3: It was huge. I mean, look at Sean McDermott when
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Speaker 3: that game ended. The cameras came in on him, He's
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Speaker 3: got his hands on his DJP. I know you were
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Speaker 3: on the opposite sideline, and he's hung his head like,
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Speaker 3: oh my gosh. It was such a relief because they
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Speaker 3: came into that game at six and six. They know
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Speaker 3: that they had to win that game to get above
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Speaker 3: five hundred to get to remain in the playoff race.
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Speaker 2: It has been a tough week well, a lot of.
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Speaker 3: The criticism of Sean McDermott for what he brought, what
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Speaker 3: he started a meeting in twenty nineteen around the nine
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Speaker 3: to eleven terrorist attacks, and also a tough week for
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Speaker 3: playing von Miller who had been accused of domestic violence.
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Speaker 3: So it was a very exhausted week for them and
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Speaker 3: for them to gut out a win like that, it
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Speaker 3: was huge in so many different ways. And you talk
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Speaker 3: about the Bills coming up, their schedule is no joke,
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Speaker 3: just like the Dallas Cowboy schedules. But here's what the
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Speaker 3: Bills have coming up. Dallas at the Chargers with Easton
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Speaker 3: Stick probably a quarterback. Now England with Bailey Zappy in
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Speaker 3: Week eighteen at Miami JP, that's going to be the game,
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Speaker 3: the final weekend of the season.
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Speaker 4: But I do look at where Buffalo was at right
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Speaker 4: now and doing this game on Sunday and talking to
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Speaker 4: people on the sideline pregame. You look at where Josh
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Speaker 4: Allen has been at. There's no other quarterback in the
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Speaker 4: group that they're in. Even some of the teams are
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Speaker 4: in the you know, in the hunt, in the play
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Speaker 4: in the wild card situation, and where they're at He's
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Speaker 4: the best quarterback out of that entire group.
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Speaker 2: And you look at Darlin Point and.
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Speaker 4: Dawson Knox on the field at the same time. Even
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Speaker 4: though Stefan Diggs wasn't well, let's just say he was
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Speaker 4: shut down by Lajarius Sneed, who had a great game,
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Speaker 4: they were still able to move to the James Cook
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Speaker 4: was dynamic in catching the football and running the football,
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Speaker 4: and the defense played really well against Patrick Holmes. They
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Speaker 4: didn't play their best game and they still beat the Chiefs.
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Speaker 4: That's why I think they're so dangerous. Well, let's talk
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Speaker 4: about the quarterback position a little bit further. Coming up,
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Speaker 4: we got the coach David Shaw with us. We're gonna
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Speaker 4: talk about Joe Flacco. Steve, We're going to talk about
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Speaker 4: Jake Browning. We're going to talk about the Denver Broncos
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Speaker 4: where he did extensive work on that was looking at
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Speaker 4: a head of coaching opportunity. But Joe Flacco can what
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Speaker 4: can he do in the postseason? David Shaw coming up next,
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the NFL Report. James Palmer, Steve Weich
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Speaker 4: with you. You are taking a look at the AFC
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Speaker 4: playoff picture, and I'm looking Steve right there at those
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Speaker 4: teams in the hunt you have the Texans and the
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Speaker 4: Broncos and the Bengals and the Bills and the Chargers,
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Speaker 4: and right there seven and six the Denver Broncos one
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Speaker 4: game back of the Kansas City Chiefs right now in
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Speaker 4: the AFC West. They only have one game remaining on
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Speaker 4: their schedule versus a team with a winning record. And
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Speaker 4: we bring in the coach David Shaw right now, and coach,
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Speaker 4: you know a lot about the Denver Broncos. You are
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Speaker 4: doing extensive work on that organization this offseason. What stands
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Speaker 4: out to you most with what Sean Payton has done
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Speaker 4: specific with his quarterback from what you saw a season
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Speaker 4: ago with Russell Wilson to what you're seeing right now
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Speaker 4: in December football with Ross.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, good to see you guys.
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Speaker 8: And as you said, doing that extensive work, going back
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Speaker 8: and watching a lot of film, watch the entire season.
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Speaker 8: Like everyone saw last year, he saw a disjointed offense,
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Speaker 8: a talented but disjointed offense, and a very young and
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Speaker 8: athletic defense that was able to rush the passer, stop
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Speaker 8: the run.
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Speaker 7: And he plays on the ball.
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Speaker 8: You've got an elite corner and Pat Sartan the second
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Speaker 8: there and in this year. What you're seeing now, you're
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Speaker 8: kind of seeing that Sean Payton effect. And I'm a
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Speaker 8: firm believer that you don't really know each other as
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Speaker 8: the coaches and players until you've been through the fire.
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Speaker 8: And that fire was early in the year. Miss had
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Speaker 8: some poor play at a terrible game against the Miami Dolphin.
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Speaker 8: You've seen since then is Russell going back to being
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Speaker 8: Russell very efficient. They're running the ball, they're using the
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Speaker 8: play action. He's got big playmakers at receivers on the outside.
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Speaker 8: You've got to help the Javonte Williams, which is huge
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Speaker 8: for them, and you've seen Russell now take off and
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Speaker 8: get first downs with his legs. By some time they
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Speaker 8: make those plays down the field. He's got two big
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Speaker 8: time receivers, but he's also got an elite downfield arm
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Speaker 8: that he's always had. So now you're seeing all of
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Speaker 8: those things work together. And one of the biggest things
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Speaker 8: to have in December is momentum. They're playing well. You
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Speaker 8: watch them, as I like to say, they're walking on
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Speaker 8: their toes right, everybody's walking on the toes. They're playing
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Speaker 8: with confidence and they feel like they can walk into
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Speaker 8: any stadium across the league and win games. And that's
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Speaker 8: huge when you get into December, and I still believe
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Speaker 8: all those struggles early in the year, I think once
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Speaker 8: they fought through those and now they've they've built on
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Speaker 8: those on those difficulties. Now the relationships are stronger, and
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Speaker 8: now they're playing with more grit and more fire Defensively.
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Speaker 8: They can't say enough about the change from early in
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Speaker 8: the year to now. Coordinator and players have found each
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Speaker 8: other and they're playing with a lot of confidence. This
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Speaker 8: is one of the most dangerous teams in the league
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Speaker 8: right now. As you said earlier, this is one of
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Speaker 8: those teams that nobody wants to face and they get
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Speaker 8: in the playoffs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they've won six their past seven, that defense
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Speaker 3: in that spans allowing about fourteen point eight points a game.
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Speaker 3: But I want to get your perspective of this as
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Speaker 3: a coach, Sean Payton, we're used to him coaching Drew Brees,
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Speaker 3: right drop back type of guys. You said, he's letting
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Speaker 3: Russ by Russ, that's moving a little bit, doing some
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Speaker 3: things with his legs. As a coach, how do you
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Speaker 3: tell yourself, I've got to kind of break what I
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Speaker 3: like to do and get my guy going while you're
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Speaker 3: in the middle of the season game planning for upcoming opponents.
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Speaker 7: That's a great question.
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Speaker 8: I love the way you asked it too, So in
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Speaker 8: my belief, your system has to be flexible. And I
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Speaker 8: know Sean Payton very well. There are things that he
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Speaker 8: loves to do. But part of that is what can
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Speaker 8: the quarterback do and what's he comfortable doing? So you
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Speaker 8: give them so give him some freedom. So that's a
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Speaker 8: big part of early on in the season is finding
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Speaker 8: out where Russell find out himselves. Okay, where do I
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Speaker 8: have my freedom and where do I not have my freedom?
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Speaker 8: I know Sean's very direct, is very straightforward. Here's what
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Speaker 8: I need from you. But then also here's what you
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Speaker 8: can do. And you're seeing that. Now Russell's not turning
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Speaker 8: the ball over, he's not taking chances, he's biden time,
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Speaker 8: he's throwing the ball down the field, he's putting the
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Speaker 8: ball in safe, safe areas, he's scrambled for first downs.
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Speaker 8: He's gotten in great shape because they told him that's
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Speaker 8: what they needed, they needed from him to come in
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Speaker 8: this year in great shape. And you're seeing it. You're
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Speaker 8: seeing it all. Now you're seeing that high efficiency come
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Speaker 8: back again. You're seeing the running game come back again.
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Speaker 8: You're seeing these two receivers that are dynamic receivers now
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Speaker 8: getting multiple opportunities down the field because you've got to
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Speaker 8: health the Javonte Williams, you can run the ball, you
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Speaker 8: can use the play action, and Russ now doing what
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Speaker 8: Rus was putting up to the end zone. These amazing
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Speaker 8: throws with great air. And I'm an old receiver. I
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Speaker 8: love to see that ball looking in the air, the
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Speaker 8: tight spiral. Give it to me and let me do
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Speaker 8: something with it. And I'm just seeing that from Russ
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Speaker 8: from those those Super Bowl teams that he had in Seattle.
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Speaker 8: You're seeing that type of play from him, but you're
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Speaker 8: seeing it as an entire team much like in Seattle.
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Speaker 8: Great defense, running game, big player receivers, and an efficient
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Speaker 8: quarterback who's making plays with his legs.
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Speaker 7: This is a fun team to watch.
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Speaker 2: Good point, it really is.
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Speaker 4: I've been in that locker room coach a lot over
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Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks, and they really have thrived
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Speaker 4: on this new physical identity that they've established on both
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Speaker 4: sides of the ball, and they really embracing their physical
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Speaker 4: style of play. Let's go to Cincinnati now and look
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Speaker 4: at Jake Browning. And you know him from high school,
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Speaker 4: you know him from college, You've watched him.
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Speaker 2: For a long time.
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Speaker 4: I love the way they're setting up to succeed and
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Speaker 4: what Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan are doing. What are
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Speaker 4: you seeing from what Jake is doing? And are you
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Speaker 4: surprised by any sense, because some people are, but you've
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Speaker 4: seen a lot of them for a long time.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't say that I'm surprised. Jake was one
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Speaker 8: of those guys. And don't get me wrong, high school
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Speaker 8: success and college assistant does not mean NFL success. But
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Speaker 8: were you're looking for, You're looking for those translatable skills
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Speaker 8: first and foremost translatable skills for a quarterback. Quick release
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Speaker 8: and accuracy. That's what you see from this guy. He's
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Speaker 8: got a quick release, it's accurate. He's not a great athlete,
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Speaker 8: but he's a good athlete in the pocket. You see
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Speaker 8: him slide, he make some adjustments. He made two plays
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Speaker 8: in that game where he's kind of backing up, backing up,
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Speaker 8: getting out of trouble and then laying the ball in
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Speaker 8: a nice place for a guy to make a play. Now,
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Speaker 8: play calling wise, you mentioned Brian Callahan and O'Brien really well,
17:09
Speaker 8: we communicated last week.
17:11
Speaker 7: They're taking care of him.
17:12
Speaker 8: They're running the ball, they they're throwing screens and putting
17:15
Speaker 8: the ball in same locations. But what he showed in
17:18
Speaker 8: that game too is he will throw the ball down
17:19
Speaker 8: the field with touching accuracy. Also, it was a shame
17:22
Speaker 8: one of those touchdown passes got called back, but it
17:25
Speaker 8: was a beautiful back shoulder throw in the back of
17:27
Speaker 8: the end zone to Higgins.
17:29
Speaker 7: But he's finding Chase. He found Chase underneath, he found
17:32
Speaker 7: Chase down the field. So now he's got a couple
17:34
Speaker 7: of big weapons.
17:35
Speaker 8: They're taking care of play calling wise, they're playing really
17:38
Speaker 8: well on defense. This is now one of those teams
17:40
Speaker 8: that was in the Doltrims a couple of weeks ago
17:42
Speaker 8: because they lost their story quarterback. Now Jake's giving him
17:46
Speaker 8: some life again, like, hey, he can find our big
17:48
Speaker 8: time receivers.
17:48
Speaker 7: He cannot turn the ball over.
17:50
Speaker 8: We can trust him in crunch time situations on third down,
17:53
Speaker 8: and we trust him in the red zone to make
17:55
Speaker 8: those big time throws. So he doesn't have to put
17:58
Speaker 8: the team on his shoulders. They're playing great defense to
18:00
Speaker 8: running the ball, and they've got two premier receivers. As
18:02
Speaker 8: the great Steve Young once said, all the quarterback has
18:04
Speaker 8: to do is deal the cards, and this is that
18:06
Speaker 8: kind of quarterback that can do that in that offense.
18:08
Speaker 3: Well, he's absolutely dealing. And the fact that think he's
18:11
Speaker 3: been with them since training camp and he got to
18:13
Speaker 3: really throw a lot of balls to them because Joey
18:15
Speaker 3: b was out with that calf injury may have helped
18:17
Speaker 3: with some of that chemistry when he had to be
18:19
Speaker 3: put in their coach. But let's go to a guy
18:21
Speaker 3: who got off the couch and this is amazing what
18:23
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco is doing with Cleveland and looking and looking
18:28
Speaker 3: what he's done because they're rolling the pocket. He's just
18:30
Speaker 3: not sitting back there like a statue like so many
18:32
Speaker 3: people thought. Why has he been so successful and moving
18:36
Speaker 3: forward looking what they like to do offensively? Why do
18:40
Speaker 3: you think this can work well?
18:42
Speaker 8: Looking at the history of Joe Flacco from college to
18:44
Speaker 8: the NFL, two things you know. Number One, he's a
18:46
Speaker 8: tough son of a gun, right, that's number one. He's
18:49
Speaker 8: a tough son of a gun. Number Two, he's had
18:52
Speaker 8: success at every level in big time moments. This guy
18:56
Speaker 8: in playoffs, in super Bowls, big games college, and this
19:00
Speaker 8: guy has shown up and played.
19:01
Speaker 7: Now he's got the experience.
19:03
Speaker 8: You're talking about another team that plays really well up front,
19:06
Speaker 8: that has some weapons, a receiver and tight end, and
19:10
Speaker 8: plays great defense. This guy can come in and say, hey,
19:13
Speaker 8: I can make those three or three to five throws
19:14
Speaker 8: a game. They're the big time throws that I need
19:16
Speaker 8: to make for us to win a game. And now
19:19
Speaker 8: I'm playing in difficult conditions. He did that in Baltimore,
19:23
Speaker 8: he did that in college, so it's no big deal
19:24
Speaker 8: to him. This is an exciting signing for me, and
19:27
Speaker 8: it wasn't wasn't big news early on other than him
19:30
Speaker 8: coming off the couch, was that this is the kind
19:32
Speaker 8: of team similar to that Baltimore team that he led
19:35
Speaker 8: to the Super Bowl, that he can come in and
19:37
Speaker 8: just be himself and play his role and maybe make
19:40
Speaker 8: a deep run into the playoffs with with this Browns team.
19:42
Speaker 4: He also coaches maybe the best neck beard in all
19:44
Speaker 4: of football. I have a real quick goal because I've
19:47
Speaker 4: heard this from so many different people around the league.
19:50
Speaker 2: He throws, and I want your expert opinion on this.
19:52
Speaker 2: In all honesty.
19:53
Speaker 4: I've talked to receivers, I've talked to coaches, just the
19:55
Speaker 4: natural ability to throw the football. He's one of the
19:59
Speaker 4: best match throwers of the football. A lot of people
20:02
Speaker 4: I've talked to have ever seen what do they mean
20:05
Speaker 4: by that?
20:06
Speaker 8: Uh So I've got some experience here, right, coaching the
20:09
Speaker 8: great Andrew Luck, coaching Rich Gannon. These guys that just
20:12
Speaker 8: they place the ball and it's going to Being an
20:14
Speaker 8: old receiver, I can always see it. The ball is
20:16
Speaker 8: not a hard ball. It's not always a flat fastball, right.
20:20
Speaker 8: Receivers don't like those. Those jam a lot of fingers.
20:23
Speaker 8: It's when the ball has a little bubble on, a
20:24
Speaker 8: little arc on it, and it's placed right whether you're
20:27
Speaker 8: running down the field it's over the shoulder catch or
20:29
Speaker 8: it's right to me and it's thrown on one peck
20:31
Speaker 8: or the other with a little bit of an arc,
20:33
Speaker 8: but it's placed. And I a kid, it's a kin
20:35
Speaker 8: to me throwing darts. A guy that can throw darts
20:38
Speaker 8: and just place it where you want it to be placed.
20:40
Speaker 8: It's not hard to catch, it's easy to catch. There's
20:41
Speaker 8: not a lot of wobble on it, you know. Forgive
20:43
Speaker 8: me peyton Mann for saying that. But it's not a
20:45
Speaker 8: lot of it right, So you don't have to like
20:50
Speaker 8: frame it big. You can frame it small and the
20:52
Speaker 8: ball just and usually there's that sound when you catch
20:54
Speaker 8: a ball from a quarterback like this, it's just a
20:57
Speaker 8: right that's just to catch. Is just a nice softball
20:59
Speaker 8: that you catch and run after the catch. So I'm
21:02
Speaker 8: excited for the Browns. I know a few people there
21:04
Speaker 8: and I know they're excited to have them, and this
21:07
Speaker 8: could be another team that's fun to watch in December
21:09
Speaker 8: and maybe beyond December.
21:11
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
21:12
Speaker 4: I just want to get that take. I've heard receivers
21:13
Speaker 4: that have caught the ball. They're just like, it's a
21:15
Speaker 4: joy to catch a ball from Joe Flacco. Is just
21:17
Speaker 4: kind of interesting from your opinion. Now, how about do
21:20
Speaker 4: one last quarterback? And I want to kind of circle
21:22
Speaker 4: this back to where we started. You talked about the
21:24
Speaker 4: work that you did on the Denver Broncos organization, so
21:27
Speaker 4: kind of put that hat on again. And if you're
21:29
Speaker 4: looking at the Chicago Bears and you're somebody that I
21:32
Speaker 4: don't want to put anybody out of a job right now,
21:34
Speaker 4: but if they end up making a coaching change, and
21:36
Speaker 4: you've been evaluating Justin Fields and you want to really
21:40
Speaker 4: kind of just take a deep dive into the quarterback.
21:42
Speaker 4: You could potentially be inheriting. How would you go about
21:45
Speaker 4: that evaluation process?
21:47
Speaker 8: So the big thing for me, starting with quarterbacks, you're
21:50
Speaker 8: looking for the comp looking for his mechanics.
21:53
Speaker 7: Right, Are there big errors there? There's not a lot
21:55
Speaker 7: of them have mechanics here.
21:56
Speaker 8: With Justin Fields, He's got I don't know if it's
21:58
Speaker 8: elite armstring, but it's really really good. What you have
22:02
Speaker 8: with Justin Fields is every game he shows up, he's
22:05
Speaker 8: the best player on the field. He's the best athlete
22:07
Speaker 8: on the field. They can't catch him. He's got speed
22:09
Speaker 8: and explosion. He's doing a great job taking care of
22:12
Speaker 8: the football. In this second half of this year, you're
22:16
Speaker 8: seeing them use his use his weapons. I love what
22:19
Speaker 8: they're doing on offense right now. They're using Dj Moore
22:22
Speaker 8: in a variety of ways. We're finding different ways to
22:24
Speaker 8: get involved. That got Kyle Komett. He's a very good
22:26
Speaker 8: tight end. But when you look at Justin Fields, you
22:29
Speaker 8: see extreme athleticism, you see extreme playmaking ability, and you
22:33
Speaker 8: see an offense Now that's built around him. And I
22:36
Speaker 8: feel the same way you do. I watched this team
22:39
Speaker 8: the other day, and I think the Detroit Lions are
22:40
Speaker 8: a playoff team and they were dismantled by this Chicago
22:44
Speaker 8: Bears team. The Chicago Bears team looked like a playoff team.
22:48
Speaker 8: They played great defense, they took away the weapons, those
22:51
Speaker 8: multiple weapons there at Detroit. They came back on offense.
22:54
Speaker 8: They made big places in the passing game. There is
22:56
Speaker 8: a lot of ingenuity on the offensive side with the
22:58
Speaker 8: versus and fake reverses and funky screens. And then you've
23:02
Speaker 8: got a quarterback that when he drops back, if nobody's open,
23:05
Speaker 8: he's going to get you a first down. And what
23:07
Speaker 8: I love about what sir Justin's doing is he's protecting himself.
23:09
Speaker 8: He's not taking those big hits like he kind of
23:11
Speaker 8: did early on his rookie year. Hey, don't take those
23:14
Speaker 8: big hits. Get the first down, get out of bounds,
23:16
Speaker 8: get to the sideline, step out of bounds, and we
23:18
Speaker 8: got a new set of downs. So you're looking at
23:20
Speaker 8: a team that a few weeks ago people giving up
23:23
Speaker 8: on Justin, giving up on Eberflues. It's going to be
23:26
Speaker 8: a whole new regime. Now you're looking at him. They
23:28
Speaker 8: look like a playoff team right now, and they hold
23:32
Speaker 8: they hold the keys to the draft next year. So
23:35
Speaker 8: do you say, do they take another quarterback? Has justin
23:37
Speaker 8: shown you enough? Like gosh, if we address the offensive line,
23:39
Speaker 8: get a little bit stronger there and give them two
23:41
Speaker 8: more weapons. Now are they a deep run playoff team
23:44
Speaker 8: as opposed to looking like a playoff team? So it's
23:46
Speaker 8: a fascinating thing. I think it's one of the most
23:48
Speaker 8: intriguing things in the NFL going forward through the end
23:50
Speaker 8: of the year and then beyond the end of the year.
23:52
Speaker 8: What do they do in Chicago? Because this young man,
23:55
Speaker 8: he changes the game. He has the ability to change
23:59
Speaker 8: the game with his legs and his arm, and he's
24:01
Speaker 8: taking care of the football and he's taking care of himself.
24:03
Speaker 7: So I think it's very exciting to see what they
24:04
Speaker 7: will do with Chicago, and.
24:06
Speaker 3: A coach, you sit back and say to yourself, why
24:07
Speaker 3: did it take so long for them to figure this out?
24:09
Speaker 3: Because you watch other scheme in him up it is
24:11
Speaker 3: fantastic what they're doing. He is playing with incredible confidence
24:15
Speaker 3: and I think part of this is because he trusts
24:18
Speaker 3: his defense to make a play. So if he takes
24:21
Speaker 3: a risk and they're three and out or whatever, they
24:24
Speaker 3: can come back. You know the defense is going to
24:25
Speaker 3: make a stop and give him another opportunity because the
24:28
Speaker 3: way justin Field is playing.
24:29
Speaker 2: And I've said this before, I would not move off
24:32
Speaker 2: of him.
24:32
Speaker 3: I would address in those other pieces that you said,
24:35
Speaker 3: Coach David Shaw. This was absolutely spectacular stuff. Appreciate it
24:40
Speaker 3: once again. And like those receivers who catch at Joe
24:42
Speaker 3: Flacco pass that special sound you make when you join.
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Speaker 7: The NFL Report, Thanks guys.
24:50
Speaker 3: Coming back after the break, Jane Slater joined us with
24:54
Speaker 3: how big this game was for the Cowboys, And you
24:56
Speaker 3: know what we have to say to that.
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Speaker 2: JP Here we go.
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Speaker 9: It was big, we needed it. Yeah, let's not sugarcoat
25:34
Speaker 9: that we needed that.
25:35
Speaker 7: Obviously.
25:36
Speaker 9: I've talked about it before Mike talks about it about
25:38
Speaker 9: grabbing a huge chunk of confidence and moving forward and
25:41
Speaker 9: being able to do that against the team like that
25:43
Speaker 9: here at home. But obviously we got to take one
25:45
Speaker 9: game at a time. As I talked about my performance tonight,
25:49
Speaker 9: as I said, yeah, it was good enough to win,
25:51
Speaker 9: but I hold myself to super high high standards, and yeah,
25:57
Speaker 9: if I play my best game, we're putting up fifteen
26:00
Speaker 9: out there, all right?
26:01
Speaker 3: That with das Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott maybe the leader
26:05
Speaker 3: in the MVP race. And you are back here at
26:08
Speaker 3: the nflod work with James Palmer, Steime, Steve Whitch and
26:11
Speaker 3: now we're joined by James Slater. Boots on the ground.
26:13
Speaker 3: She was in the house to watch the Cowboys snack
26:17
Speaker 3: the Eagles. Jane, you heard Dak Prescott say they needed
26:20
Speaker 3: this win. How big was this win?
26:23
Speaker 10: Well, you hear him talk about just feeling a little greedy.
26:26
Speaker 10: My new favorite song is Tate McCray. Don't know if
26:28
Speaker 10: Nixon has shown that one to you yet, James Palmer,
26:30
Speaker 10: but it.
26:31
Speaker 11: Was going on in my head.
26:32
Speaker 10: They're averaging about forty one points per game at AT
26:36
Speaker 10: and T Stadium.
26:37
Speaker 11: They're fifteenth straight at home.
26:39
Speaker 10: But the big dock on this team is that they
26:41
Speaker 10: haven't been able to beat a team with a winning record,
26:44
Speaker 10: and they haven't been able to beat a team like
26:46
Speaker 10: the Eagles. Well, not only did they do it last night,
26:48
Speaker 10: but it wasn't even close. In fact, Jalen Hurts wasn't
26:51
Speaker 10: even able to put.
26:52
Speaker 11: A touchdown up. It was a defensive touchdown, it was
26:54
Speaker 11: two field goals.
26:55
Speaker 10: In fact, the Cowboys scored on all four of their
26:58
Speaker 10: possessions of the first half, over one hundred fifty yards
27:00
Speaker 10: and two tens before they even went into the locker room.
27:04
Speaker 10: To me, it was just they handled the Eagles. They
27:06
Speaker 10: handled them the way they needed to. And now I
27:08
Speaker 10: think it's interesting that what a fun league this is.
27:11
Speaker 10: Now we've got questions about the Eagles moving forward because
27:13
Speaker 10: of their loss to the forty nine ers the week before,
27:17
Speaker 10: But you know dak as he was having his press conference,
27:20
Speaker 10: they were shouting VP and I think he certainly put
27:23
Speaker 10: up a case for that this season. This is clearly
27:26
Speaker 10: one of his better seasons. And look, we saw the
27:29
Speaker 10: Texas Coast offense. It was a little flat to begin with.
27:32
Speaker 10: I love seeing them finally get more and more guys
27:35
Speaker 10: involved in this offense. I think it's very clear that
27:37
Speaker 10: Ceedee Lamb is now that guy they had hoped he
27:40
Speaker 10: would be when they departed from Amari Cooper Brandon Cooks.
27:43
Speaker 10: It took us a while to see him, but that's
27:45
Speaker 10: been working out. And I thought, more importantly, what was
27:48
Speaker 10: really helping this team as we start talking about depth
27:50
Speaker 10: and the offseason, Remember the biggest thing that hurt them
27:53
Speaker 10: last year when they went up to San Francisco was
27:55
Speaker 10: they just didn't have any offensive weapons.
27:57
Speaker 11: Once Tony Pollard went down. Well, now you've got Tony
28:00
Speaker 11: Pollard going, you've.
28:01
Speaker 10: Got Brandon Cooks, you've got Ceedee lamp But Michael Gallup
28:04
Speaker 10: came out last night, and so you did that against
28:08
Speaker 10: like Eagles defense that I think we can all agree
28:10
Speaker 10: is a great squad of guys, and so I don't
28:12
Speaker 10: think there's many asterisks you can put on this win.
28:14
Speaker 10: It was just a great performance for the Cowboys all around.
28:17
Speaker 2: It really was.
28:18
Speaker 4: It's the only game with Jalen Hurts as their starter
28:21
Speaker 4: that they did not score an offensive touchdown ever. And
28:25
Speaker 4: also I have to say this chain the lapel on
28:28
Speaker 4: the suit on Dak I mean, it's a Monster.
28:32
Speaker 2: I don't know what the what the width is on that,
28:34
Speaker 2: but it was.
28:34
Speaker 4: Huge and it's the width that you would have on
28:36
Speaker 4: a guy that I think you're right as I predicted
28:38
Speaker 4: Steve halfway through the season.
28:40
Speaker 2: Is yes.
28:41
Speaker 4: Conversation and what is he now? He is the MVP
28:43
Speaker 4: essentially in my mind front runner. I love the way
28:46
Speaker 4: he's played outside of the pocket.
28:47
Speaker 7: Jane.
28:47
Speaker 4: I think the added element of that and the confidence
28:50
Speaker 4: outside the pocket I think has been something when I
28:53
Speaker 4: talk to people down there has been added to his game.
28:55
Speaker 4: Let's talk about their biggest obstacle moving forward? Right, they're
28:59
Speaker 4: on this highland, knock them down a perch. What's their
29:01
Speaker 4: biggest obstacle after they get this monster Monster win over
29:06
Speaker 4: Philadelphia in the division?
29:07
Speaker 10: You know, I think I was looking for these last
29:10
Speaker 10: couple of weeks because I was on the side of
29:12
Speaker 10: a lot of critics. You know, they were kind of
29:14
Speaker 10: beating up on the younger kids at the playground. They
29:18
Speaker 10: had three games and twelve days. The Seattle Seahawks. I
29:20
Speaker 10: know they just lost the forty nine ers, but they
29:22
Speaker 10: were an incredible opponent here what two weeks ago. I
29:26
Speaker 10: swear all these weeks are running together with as many
29:29
Speaker 10: games they've had. You got to Metcalf, Thank you, DK
29:32
Speaker 10: Metcalf having the game that he had against this defense
29:34
Speaker 10: and the way they were able to auto correct in
29:36
Speaker 10: that one. The biggest struggle for them moving forward, if
29:40
Speaker 10: I'm being honest, is they've got the fourth hardest schedule
29:42
Speaker 10: in the league. I mean, they've got the Bills, They've
29:44
Speaker 10: got to travel up to New.
29:45
Speaker 11: York for that one.
29:46
Speaker 10: Then they've got the Miami Dolphins, They've got the Detroit Lions,
29:48
Speaker 10: and they finish up with the Commanders. When you just
29:51
Speaker 10: as pose that against the Eagles, the Eagles have got
29:53
Speaker 10: one of the easiest schedules moving forward. So the Cowboys
29:57
Speaker 10: really have control of their destiny right now. They really
30:00
Speaker 10: can't mess this thing up. They need to say forward momentum.
30:03
Speaker 10: They've been incredibly successful at home, not as successful obviously
30:07
Speaker 10: on the road. And I do think as much as
30:09
Speaker 10: we look back at that Cardinals loss and we kind
30:12
Speaker 10: of scratch our heads why that even happened, I think
30:14
Speaker 10: it was a good loss for them early in the
30:16
Speaker 10: season because that's when I think it reminded them that
30:19
Speaker 10: you really can't sleep on any of your opponents moving forward,
30:22
Speaker 10: and the confidence that I'm feeling in that locker room.
30:24
Speaker 3: Well.
30:24
Speaker 10: Then, the offense and defensive side of the ball reminds
30:26
Speaker 10: me so much of Dak's rookie season when it just
30:29
Speaker 10: felt like, how are they going to move forward without
30:31
Speaker 10: Tony Romo and the way they galvanized. I'm seeing that
30:34
Speaker 10: energy again this season.
30:36
Speaker 2: Jamie got thirty seconds here.
30:37
Speaker 3: But the Cowboys do have a secret weapon in their place.
30:41
Speaker 2: Kicker.
30:41
Speaker 3: We never talk about that on that yet. Brandon Aubrey explain.
30:46
Speaker 10: You know, I love it. How many guys do you
30:48
Speaker 10: know sit at home on Sundays. Maybe this is you
30:50
Speaker 10: guys that say I can do that. I bet you
30:52
Speaker 10: if I went and try it out, I could start
30:54
Speaker 10: on an.
30:54
Speaker 11: NFL football team. Me well, his wife, his wife high school,
31:01
Speaker 11: he was in there you go.
31:02
Speaker 10: His wife knew was incredible soccer player at Notre David.
31:04
Speaker 10: She said, honey, I think you can do that. He
31:06
Speaker 10: was a software engineer here in Dallas three years ago.
31:09
Speaker 10: Grew up in the Plato area, and then he had
31:11
Speaker 10: literally set an NFL record two kicks fifty nine and
31:14
Speaker 10: sixty in that game. Most game he was asked, how
31:17
Speaker 10: far can you back it up? He said, he feels
31:19
Speaker 10: comfortable at seventy. So to your point, see, that is
31:22
Speaker 10: an incredible recurt weapon for the Cowboys if they could
31:25
Speaker 10: use him moving forward back.
31:27
Speaker 3: That's sad.
31:28
Speaker 2: I love it, Jane, I love it. I love it.
31:31
Speaker 4: Jane, Thank you so much. Great to see you once again.
31:35
Speaker 4: Let's go from kitten, how about guys real quick to
31:38
Speaker 4: punting the football? Jeff, I think hangs a wobbler. Wallace
31:44
Speaker 4: settles under at the twenty five, gets a block, comes
31:47
Speaker 4: out an air side thirty spins.
31:49
Speaker 12: Out of one tackle thirty five along with airside my Coty.
31:52
Speaker 3: He's a midfield Wallay.
31:54
Speaker 8: Sell to hit Puddy Cannon, Kim centers come.
32:00
Speaker 2: When overtime finished, just screaming at the camera. I love it.
32:11
Speaker 4: Bridget Condon now joins us she was there on a
32:14
Speaker 4: soaky sideline. You gotta tell us just before we get going,
32:20
Speaker 4: what the end of that game was like in overtime, Bridget.
32:24
Speaker 13: Okay, first, James and Steve. I just caught a little
32:27
Speaker 13: bit of myself in the monitor, and I look like
32:29
Speaker 13: a waiter right now. I swear that this is actually
32:32
Speaker 13: a dress and it's actually really cute, but I do
32:35
Speaker 13: look like a waiter. So that's distracting me just a
32:39
Speaker 13: little bit. But anyways, you know when you when it
32:42
Speaker 13: gets to the two minute warning, we're allowed as reporters
32:44
Speaker 13: to be on the sideline and it's amazing. Then it
32:47
Speaker 13: goes into overtime and you're on the sideline for the
32:49
Speaker 13: best moments. After the three and out from both teams,
32:52
Speaker 13: I was like, Okay, we got to get this in.
32:54
Speaker 13: I got a flight to make, like, who's going to
32:56
Speaker 13: make a play here? And it was special teams punt
33:00
Speaker 13: for a touchdown. Such an exciting moment. We walked to
33:03
Speaker 13: Tyland Wallace's locker after the game and he was just
33:06
Speaker 13: smiling down on his phone. He was like, I have
33:08
Speaker 13: so many texts and calls from all my family and friends.
33:12
Speaker 13: So it was just such an awesome moment, especially when
33:14
Speaker 13: a guy who isn't talked about all the time on
33:16
Speaker 13: the team makes a huge play like that.
33:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bridget, there's a great video.
33:20
Speaker 3: I think the Ravens put it out where he is
33:22
Speaker 3: watching a replay of this return with John Harbaugh. That
33:25
Speaker 3: is just amazing. I was stunned and this isn't a shot,
33:29
Speaker 3: but that there wasn't a flag thrown. I mean, there's
33:30
Speaker 3: always a flag thrown on a big return. That's a
33:33
Speaker 3: spectacular play that back in the back. Oh there you go,
33:36
Speaker 3: throwing a wet blanket on a great return. But Briddant,
33:38
Speaker 3: let's move on because the Baltimore Ravens, they kept their
33:43
Speaker 3: lead there in the AFC North and their quarterback Lamar Jackson,
33:46
Speaker 3: I mean, once again, wasn't his best game, but just
33:49
Speaker 3: stayed steady throughout and made plays. What was being said
33:53
Speaker 3: about his performance postgame.
33:55
Speaker 13: Isaiah likely told me that it's so special to play
33:58
Speaker 13: for a guy like Lamar Jackson.
33:59
Speaker 11: He said, durry that game.
34:00
Speaker 13: There were times he was watching and the pocket was collapsing,
34:03
Speaker 13: he couldn't see Lamar, and then he comes out of
34:05
Speaker 13: nowhere scrambles for ten fifteen yards. He's like, I do
34:08
Speaker 13: that as Lamar Jackson on Madden, But to see that
34:11
Speaker 13: in real life is something special. For this team to
34:15
Speaker 13: hang on. I mean, we can talk about the Rams
34:17
Speaker 13: in a minute, but they should not be disappointed in
34:19
Speaker 13: this loss after you know yesterday. Now they need to
34:22
Speaker 13: move forward with taking the good stuff out of that
34:25
Speaker 13: because the Rams battled the entire game. They hung around
34:29
Speaker 13: and for the Ravens to make, you know, a game
34:32
Speaker 13: winning play to hang in this game. That's the importance
34:35
Speaker 13: when we're talking about December January football.
34:39
Speaker 4: I look at it Bridge and this is a very
34:41
Speaker 4: crowded MVP race. We argue with it every week on
34:46
Speaker 4: Monday with Jeff Chadee. Is Lamar is right in the
34:49
Speaker 4: thicke of things, guys, in my opinion. And you look
34:52
Speaker 4: at the drive that he had to take the lead
34:54
Speaker 4: with a minute to go, the thirteen play drive that
34:57
Speaker 4: goes down the field. He's playing at a number high level.
35:00
Speaker 4: And you mentioned likely he goes out there and fills
35:02
Speaker 4: in for Mark Andrews very well. I think he has
35:04
Speaker 4: what eighty three yards receiving. That's a positive sign for
35:08
Speaker 4: this offense as you put in a new piece filling
35:11
Speaker 4: in a major spot. But I mentioned he drove down
35:13
Speaker 4: the field with a minute to go to take the lead.
35:16
Speaker 4: The opposing quarterback Matthew Stafford then drives his team down
35:19
Speaker 4: the field to tie the game. This was still a
35:23
Speaker 4: very good performance by a Rams team that is playing really,
35:27
Speaker 4: really well right now.
35:28
Speaker 13: If the Rams find a way to get into the playoffs,
35:31
Speaker 13: be careful because they are going to make some noise.
35:33
Speaker 13: They just Matthew Stafford the past two games, right, They
35:36
Speaker 13: played the Ravens, they played the Browns, two of the
35:38
Speaker 13: league's top defenses. Matthew Stafford has thrown six touchdowns and
35:42
Speaker 13: no picks. Over that spin, everyone was wondering, where's Cooper
35:45
Speaker 13: Cup Ben, Maybe it's over now you know his success?
35:48
Speaker 5: Is he hurt?
35:49
Speaker 13: Is he just not playing at the same level that
35:51
Speaker 13: we've seen in seasons past, Well, there he goes. Cooper
35:54
Speaker 13: Cup had one of his best games of the season,
35:56
Speaker 13: one hundred and fifteen yards receiving and a touchdown, making
36:00
Speaker 13: an insane catch late in this game. There are so
36:03
Speaker 13: many pieces of this offense finally clicking.
36:06
Speaker 11: That first drive.
36:08
Speaker 13: They ran nine consecutive run plays. Kyrin Williams had forty
36:12
Speaker 13: three rushing yards on the opening drive of the game.
36:15
Speaker 13: So it's not just Matthew Stafford, it's the entire offense
36:18
Speaker 13: coming together, plus their defense, to the young guys and
36:21
Speaker 13: Aaron Donald the Kobe Turner making some huge plays for
36:24
Speaker 13: this team as well. I think you know this team
36:27
Speaker 13: finally is believing in themselves and it starts with Sean McVay.
36:31
Speaker 13: Like I mentioned, they have a pretty winnable season here
36:35
Speaker 13: on out their next games. Commander Saints Giants forty nine ers.
36:39
Speaker 13: So if they find a way to get into the
36:40
Speaker 13: playoffs with that wild card spot, watch out because I
36:43
Speaker 13: wouldn't want to play Matthew Stafford.
36:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's absolutely opportunities there. With Seattle sliding
36:48
Speaker 3: a little bit, you don't know what's going to happen
36:50
Speaker 3: there in the nfcast, the NFC South, those divisions, so
36:54
Speaker 3: there are absolutely a pathway there. But watching for those
36:56
Speaker 3: Packers who play again Monday night. And you know what
36:58
Speaker 3: you told us, a great story. We're not gonna have
37:00
Speaker 3: time for Bridget.
37:01
Speaker 2: The reason why.
37:02
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup got off is maybe because the Ravens are
37:04
Speaker 3: paying too much attention to Pooka Nakua, whose jersey was
37:07
Speaker 3: in demand. The Ravens tackle Morgan Moas. That's right, Moses
37:11
Speaker 3: Pooka Nakula. Bridget, thanks so much. Awesome stuff right there,
37:15
Speaker 3: And when we get back, it is time for Jeff
37:17
Speaker 3: Chiedea's first Read segment. If we're looking at the division leaders,
37:23
Speaker 3: oh yeah, San Francisco forty nine ers four, they better
37:26
Speaker 3: not be ranked number four. Jeff to Dia coming up
37:29
Speaker 3: next on the NFL Report. Back in the NFL Report
37:45
Speaker 3: with our favorite weekly segment, Jeff Chadea and his first
37:48
Speaker 3: Read segment. Remember going to NFL dot com slash first
37:51
Speaker 3: Read and JP, Jeff, this is a brilliant column because okay,
37:55
Speaker 3: you list the division leaders.
37:57
Speaker 2: But you rank them.
37:59
Speaker 3: Okay, give us the criteria for how and why you
38:03
Speaker 3: ranked them the way you did.
38:05
Speaker 14: It's super scientific, Steve. It just comes down to a
38:08
Speaker 14: comfort level. This wasn't some kind of chemistry project that
38:15
Speaker 14: I was working on bio molecular physics going on. It
38:18
Speaker 14: was as simple as who do I think is in
38:20
Speaker 14: the best position in their division to win the division?
38:23
Speaker 14: And so that's how I came up with the idea
38:25
Speaker 14: of ranking them. Because ultimately, some of these teams are
38:28
Speaker 14: in really good situations and some of them are earning perallel.
38:31
Speaker 2: Situations, and we'll find out.
38:33
Speaker 14: We'll talk about this more, but certainly there's teams you
38:34
Speaker 14: look at right now and you say there's no way
38:36
Speaker 14: they're not going to lose a division given where they're
38:38
Speaker 14: at right now.
38:39
Speaker 3: Okay, So on that note, a team we haven't really
38:41
Speaker 3: gotten to today. They had another impressive win, the Shan
38:44
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers. Where do you have them ranked?
38:46
Speaker 3: And why number one?
38:48
Speaker 2: For that very reason?
38:49
Speaker 14: They are easily in the best in their division in
38:52
Speaker 14: the NFC West. Nobody else in that division has a
38:55
Speaker 14: winning record. There are four games ahead of everybody, and
38:59
Speaker 14: be honest, they're the best team in football right now.
39:01
Speaker 14: You watch them play. They've won their last five games
39:04
Speaker 14: by double digits. They've beaten every significant contender they needed
39:08
Speaker 14: the beats, including the Cowboys and the Eagles. They've pounded
39:11
Speaker 14: the Jaguars, the quarterbacks playing at an MVP level, and
39:15
Speaker 14: they have a to go. So it's hard to it's
39:18
Speaker 14: hard to think about what can hurt them. Gotta stay healthy,
39:22
Speaker 14: that's about it.
39:23
Speaker 7: Yep.
39:23
Speaker 2: I love that you said that. I love that you
39:25
Speaker 2: said that, Jeff.
39:25
Speaker 4: The biggest red flag is in each one of these
39:27
Speaker 4: categories for each one of these teams, and their biggest
39:29
Speaker 4: red flag is they just have to stay healthy. That's
39:31
Speaker 4: the only thing that you could think of, with the
39:33
Speaker 4: way they're playing right now that could slow down this team.
39:36
Speaker 2: How about a team that is actually.
39:38
Speaker 4: Kind of I don't want to say skidding a little
39:41
Speaker 4: bit right now, but there's some leaks on that defense
39:43
Speaker 4: of the Detroit Lions, and we're seeing just maybe a
39:46
Speaker 4: couple of bits in the armor when they finished so
39:49
Speaker 4: strong a season ago started so well. But now where
39:52
Speaker 4: they sit, where do they sit in your group of eight?
39:55
Speaker 14: Well, they're certainly in a middle of pack kind of situation.
39:58
Speaker 14: I mean, they got two games up on the Vikings.
40:01
Speaker 14: We'll see what the Packers do tonight. I actually think
40:03
Speaker 14: the Packers are probably the bigger threat giving the Vikings.
40:06
Speaker 4: Quarter back situation with the Vikings, and I was gonna
40:08
Speaker 4: ask you about that, Yeah, well they play them twice.
40:10
Speaker 14: That's why I give it to him, because I have
40:12
Speaker 14: a chance to actually beat them head to head. But
40:14
Speaker 14: ultimately you're talking about, Yeah, Jared Goff has not played well,
40:17
Speaker 14: got eight interceptions in the last four games and eight
40:21
Speaker 14: turnovers in the last four games, and the defense is
40:23
Speaker 14: really taking a step back. They have poblems rushing the
40:25
Speaker 14: pass or all season long, but now it's just they
40:27
Speaker 14: just can't stop people.
40:28
Speaker 7: You saw justin Fields go off. Jordan Love did the.
40:31
Speaker 14: Same thing, and they just they're just in a weird
40:33
Speaker 14: place right now. They're not a they're a blue collar team.
40:35
Speaker 14: They're a tough minded team. I think they'll come out
40:37
Speaker 14: of it, but right now, you look at where they're at,
40:40
Speaker 14: you will to go.
40:40
Speaker 2: We were talking Super Bowl possibly.
40:42
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about maybe one win and that's about
40:45
Speaker 1: it for them.
40:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.
40:46
Speaker 3: You know Jered Goff too. I mean he's fumbling the
40:48
Speaker 3: football too, Jeff. That's that's another big part of it. Okay,
40:51
Speaker 3: those those Dallas Cowboys. I mean, we know the Niners
40:54
Speaker 3: are rolling, but those Dallas Cowboys look really really they
40:58
Speaker 3: got number two right, I mean, look.
41:00
Speaker 1: What did I say at the beginning of the show.
41:02
Speaker 1: It's based on comfort level.
41:03
Speaker 14: And they're sitting there tied with the Philadelphia Eagles, who,
41:06
Speaker 14: by the way, two weeks ago, everybody was talking about
41:08
Speaker 14: how great they were, you know, James's home town team,
41:10
Speaker 14: how he rose and all the great rockers, and now
41:12
Speaker 14: we want to throw them away. Look, I love what
41:14
Speaker 14: Dallas has been doing outside of San Francisco. They're playing
41:17
Speaker 14: the best football of anybody out there. They've been killing people.
41:20
Speaker 14: Obviously beat the Eagles up on the Eagles, but really,
41:22
Speaker 14: when you think about it, you start digging into it.
41:24
Speaker 14: They've been beating up on the Commanders, they've been beating
41:27
Speaker 14: up on the Panthers, beating up on the Giants.
41:29
Speaker 1: That was a huge statement win, but the Eagles just
41:31
Speaker 1: came through the Chiefs.
41:33
Speaker 14: And they came through the Cowboys, they came through the Bills,
41:36
Speaker 14: they came through the Niners, and so I think there's
41:39
Speaker 14: some of that was the Cowboys were waiting for this game.
41:41
Speaker 14: That was a huge win for the seventh.
41:43
Speaker 3: You gotta break seventh, Jeff, seventh out of eight because.
41:46
Speaker 1: Philadelphia can still win if Philadelphia.
41:48
Speaker 14: Wins all their games and they're playing the Giants twice
41:50
Speaker 14: in Arizona, like they're gonna win the division.
41:54
Speaker 2: And so I again, I love the Cowboys story.
41:56
Speaker 14: They gotta played Buffalo, they gonna play in Miami, they
41:58
Speaker 14: gotta played Detroit. I don't know if they're going to
42:00
Speaker 14: go run through those teams and not come out of
42:03
Speaker 14: great point.
42:04
Speaker 4: That's what I was wondering, Jeff, because what have we seen,
42:07
Speaker 4: right with some of these teams that have a big
42:08
Speaker 4: game that this has been circled the entire season and
42:11
Speaker 4: then what happens the next week? Right, That's always been
42:14
Speaker 4: something that we're looking at, and that was obviously the
42:16
Speaker 4: one that the Cowboys had circled. The Philly had that
42:19
Speaker 4: game against the Chiefs circled and then they come out,
42:21
Speaker 4: they get it, but then they start stumbling a little
42:24
Speaker 4: bit afterwards. Sometimes when you have that and then you
42:26
Speaker 4: have to go to Buffalo after that. When we've seen
42:29
Speaker 4: Dallas be so good at home, the road is a
42:32
Speaker 4: different story. Buffalo's desperate and very talented. That is a game.
42:36
Speaker 4: I want to keep an eye on it. Maybe that'll
42:37
Speaker 4: change your rankings. I don't know if you do this
42:38
Speaker 4: next week, I'm not sure. How about the team in
42:41
Speaker 4: the city that you live in, Jeff, I'm not sure
42:43
Speaker 4: if it's still standing right now, but there are tiers
42:46
Speaker 4: falling from the faces of players and coaches that why
42:49
Speaker 4: have we been wrong so much? The Kansas City Chiefs,
42:53
Speaker 4: where do they rank right now? Because they have a
42:55
Speaker 4: one game lead, I repeat, a one game lead over
42:59
Speaker 4: the Denver They have not been in this situation since
43:02
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes has been their quarterback in the division.
43:05
Speaker 14: They have not what seventh straight division championships and a
43:08
Speaker 14: lot of Tony Tony Tony jokes out there today.
43:12
Speaker 15: It doesn't feel good that it does not feel good
43:16
Speaker 15: and again, but it's a rough go for them and
43:22
Speaker 15: bron To me, I feel like what's really alarming about
43:26
Speaker 15: them right now, and what's scary is that their defense
43:28
Speaker 15: is taking a step back.
43:29
Speaker 14: The offense is what it is now. I mean, I'm
43:31
Speaker 14: tired of trying to explain it and trying to talk
43:33
Speaker 14: about it. Right, it's going to improve because of the
43:35
Speaker 14: quarterback and the coach. They're just not a very good
43:37
Speaker 14: offense and really a really bad offense in the second
43:40
Speaker 14: half of games, but their defense last three games, giving
43:43
Speaker 14: up double digit leads down fourteen oh to the Buffalo
43:47
Speaker 14: Buffalo Bills this past week.
43:48
Speaker 1: You just can't do those kind of things when you're
43:51
Speaker 1: playing offense the way.
43:52
Speaker 2: They have been playing it.
43:53
Speaker 14: And I really think the whole meltdown by Mahomes that's
43:56
Speaker 14: a really big red flag for me because this is
43:58
Speaker 14: the first time you've seen him really come up done
44:00
Speaker 14: and it wasn't about that call. It's about everything that's
44:03
Speaker 14: been going on with this team. So I don't know
44:06
Speaker 14: if Denver can catch them, because they need to have
44:09
Speaker 14: the Chiefs lose twice. But man, it's been a long
44:12
Speaker 14: time time we talked about anybody being close.
44:13
Speaker 7: To this team in this division this late and season.
44:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Jeff.
44:17
Speaker 3: Think I think Mahomes is just totally frustrated because the
44:19
Speaker 3: receivers and the damn penalties. The penalties are absolutely insane, insentively.
44:27
Speaker 2: I'm just tired of it.
44:28
Speaker 3: It's the same thing we've been talking about, the same week, two.
44:32
Speaker 2: The same guys, the same guys.
44:34
Speaker 3: All right, let's get back to the rankings though, because
44:37
Speaker 3: this is a team we thought that they had their
44:39
Speaker 3: division on lock and the slope is all of a
44:42
Speaker 3: sudden gotten slippery in the AFC South.
44:44
Speaker 2: For the Jacksonville Jaguars.
44:46
Speaker 3: Where do you have them ranked and what are their
44:47
Speaker 3: red flags or what are the positives of them finished
44:50
Speaker 3: finishing atop this division?
44:51
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean they're down at six right now. I mean,
44:53
Speaker 14: they certainly are in a place where you didn't know.
44:56
Speaker 14: But again, weeks ago, you would have said they're going
44:59
Speaker 14: to cruise to this. They have the easiest schedule in
45:02
Speaker 14: football of all the teams who are division leaders. They
45:05
Speaker 14: were I think had not nine they had nine wins
45:07
Speaker 14: at that point. They were really feeling good about themselves
45:10
Speaker 14: and at this stage, man, it's like, I don't know
45:13
Speaker 14: what to really expect from them. I think it's Trevor
45:15
Speaker 14: Lawynce getting hurt. It's a big part of this. But
45:18
Speaker 14: their defense hasn't played well. We came up thirty four
45:21
Speaker 14: the Bengals one to the Browns backup quarterbacks. We're talking
45:25
Speaker 14: about Joe Flacco and Jake Browning doing this to them,
45:28
Speaker 14: and so I've always been a little bit uneasy about this.
45:30
Speaker 14: We joke about this all the time, about Trevor Lawrence
45:34
Speaker 14: and atn all the guys down there not being dominant.
45:37
Speaker 14: But this is really a point where they got to
45:38
Speaker 14: start showing, hey, they can handle some of this adversity now,
45:41
Speaker 14: because right now they're really in a tough place.
45:43
Speaker 2: And I don't know, man eight and five.
45:45
Speaker 14: Right now, you look at the Texans on their heels,
45:48
Speaker 14: the Colts on their heels.
45:49
Speaker 7: They cannot afford to slip up anymore.
45:52
Speaker 2: Jeff, I felt like it was yesterday.
45:53
Speaker 4: We were all going the Jags are about to play
45:56
Speaker 4: a game, and if they win it, they're going to
45:58
Speaker 4: be first place in the a f C.
46:00
Speaker 2: I feel like that, like we blinked and that's right. Yeah.
46:06
Speaker 14: They had their grass Tony holding a pass just.
46:10
Speaker 7: Their hands just like that.
46:12
Speaker 12: Oh, man, listen, I mean, Jeff Tony, Jeff roll one.
46:24
Speaker 2: Right now, don't stick.
46:25
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I gotta go back in time, but that way,
46:27
Speaker 14: I was a young man back in those days. I
46:29
Speaker 14: don't remember so many of the songs, but you know it
46:31
Speaker 14: doesn't rain in southern California. Doesn't really fit what's going
46:34
Speaker 14: on there. But you know it's uh tony tony tony
46:37
Speaker 14: jokes going. I'll think of one before week, so resident
46:41
Speaker 14: how about that?
46:42
Speaker 2: Perfect? I love it.
46:44
Speaker 4: I love it, Jeff, I love it. I love having
46:46
Speaker 4: you on every Monday. Why didn't didn't see each other?
46:49
Speaker 4: Appreciate anybody and well, listen to this. We got a
46:53
Speaker 4: triple header, Steve, a triple header on the network on Saturday,
46:59
Speaker 4: Vikings Angles Steelers. I'll be there finishing up with a
47:03
Speaker 4: monster in Detroit, the Broncos versus the last team that
47:08
Speaker 4: has a winning record on their schedule, the Lions.
47:11
Speaker 2: That's gonna be phenomenal.
47:13
Speaker 4: All of that on NFL Network, But we have one
47:15
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47:18
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48:27
Speaker 3: as we get ready to wrap up this show.
48:30
Speaker 2: You know we always do this on Monday.
48:31
Speaker 3: It is the lost headlines, things that may have been
48:34
Speaker 3: overlooked during this fantastic show that we've had.
48:37
Speaker 2: What do you got for me? JP?
48:39
Speaker 4: I feel like it happens every week, Steve, and nobody
48:41
Speaker 4: pays attention to it. Courtland Sutton makes some sort of
48:44
Speaker 4: ridiculous catch in the end zone theme big receiving threat
48:50
Speaker 4: for the Denver Broncos week in and week out, has
48:53
Speaker 4: made one handed catches, tiptoe and toe drag swag type
48:56
Speaker 4: of catches. There's three people with ten or more touchdowns
48:59
Speaker 4: in the league this year, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, and
49:02
Speaker 4: that man right there, Courtland Sutton.
49:04
Speaker 3: Well, I've got to go with the Chief, No, not
49:06
Speaker 3: the Chiefs, the Chief Brown's tight.
49:09
Speaker 2: End, David Najoku.
49:11
Speaker 3: We're talking about Joe Flacco as we should, but Najoku
49:14
Speaker 3: comes out in this big win on Sunday. He has
49:19
Speaker 3: six catches for ninety one yards two touchdowns, including this
49:23
Speaker 3: Andy explosive plays. Joe Flacco has himself a tight end again.
49:29
Speaker 3: This Browns offense is rolling JP.
49:32
Speaker 2: You get the.
49:32
Speaker 3: Last word as we get out of here on our
49:35
Speaker 3: Monday Week fourteen edition.
49:37
Speaker 4: Well, I did his pro Dan and he did the
49:39
Speaker 4: interview topless that I've never been more physically imposed in
49:41
Speaker 4: my entire life that standing next.
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Speaker 16: To David and Joku after a solid workout.
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Speaker 3: Sp