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- 0:08Doesn't it make you just feel better? A smile cascade across your face.
- 0:14It's Christmas season. What a glorious time of the year. Welcome to the
- 0:20third hour of The Morning Show with Preston Scott Show, five thousand and sixty
- 0:24four, Tuesday, December twelfth, and for the final visit of the year.
- 0:30Thrilled to have back with us. Justin Haskins with the Heartland Institute.
- 0:35He is director of the Socialism Research Center the website stoppingsocialism dot com. Justin,
- 0:42good morning, Merry Christmas, my friend. How are you. Oh,
- 0:46I'm Merry Christmas to you as well. I'm doing great. I'm doing
- 0:50really good. When you and I kicked around ideas to discuss some things this
- 0:55morning, I'll let you just tell the story. You had a suggestion on
- 1:02something that I might read, but you've decided to just throw caution to the
- 1:04wind. That's right. This isn't exactly a sanctioned appearance on the show this
- 1:12morning. Did you use a different name? I'm supposed to wait until later
- 1:19this morning, around ten thirty to start talking about this publicly, but I'm
- 1:23jumping the gun a little bit because I'm just too excited. All right,
- 1:27ladies and gentlemen. Joining us on the program is Hustin Jaskins, and he's
- 1:32got breaking news. Yeah, that's right. So I've been working with the
- 1:40heart with the Heartlin Institute in Raths Mussen Reports to produce a survey that is
- 1:46unlike any survey that has ever been done. I had this crazy idea to
- 1:49write a survey and ask voters who voted in twenty twenty really simple questions about
- 1:57voter fraud. But instead of asking them like did you commit voter fraud or
- 2:01do you think voter fraud happened or anything like that, we asked them specifically
- 2:08about fraudulent behaviors that they may or may not have done, or that their
- 2:13friends or family may or may not have done, like say, forging a
- 2:17signature on a ballot, or voting in a state where you don't live,
- 2:22And we're just going to ask them flat out, did you do this thing?
- 2:24Did you forge a signature? Did you vote in a state where you
- 2:28no longer live. We're just going to ask people if they committed voter fraud
- 2:30and see what people say. And most people said, this is a crazy
- 2:36idea. You shouldn't do this, because who the heck, if they committed
- 2:38voter fraud, would ever admit it to a polster calling them on the phone.
- 2:43But I was able to convince Rasmussen to do it. To their credit,
- 2:47they did a national survey and what we found was absolutely stunning. Okay,
- 2:53now, before we get to unveiling all of this, and we'll take
- 2:55all the time we need here in these segments, was what was the impetus
- 3:00to this? Justin what was the I mean, all polling seems to have
- 3:05a bit of a theory behind it. What was your theory? Right,
- 3:08Yeah, that's a great point. So from day one, actually going back
- 3:13before the election fraud before the election occurred in twenty twenty, I remember going
- 3:20on to going on television and giving interviews on National TV saying, the biggest
- 3:24problem that we have with this election is going to be election fraud. Because
- 3:30when you get everybody mail in ballots, which is what happened in twenty twenty
- 3:35for the first time, there's no way to know whether people are committing fraud
- 3:39within their own homes. In other words, how do you know that a
- 3:45person had let's say there's two people in the house, and one person always
- 3:49votes, and let's say this person's spouse never votes, but they're both getting
- 3:53ballots in the mail. How do you know that the politically active spouse isn't
- 3:58just filling out the ballot for the non politically active spouse. And their answer
- 4:03is, there is no way to know, because you're not going to turn
- 4:06in your husband or wife, right, Or you're not going to turn in
- 4:10your adult child, or you're not you're not going to turn in a family
- 4:12member or a close friend maybe, or something like that. And so I
- 4:15immediately saw that as a huge, huge problem. And I've had this theory
- 4:19for years that that was a major issue in the twenty twenty election. But
- 4:26how do you prove that? Well, the only way to prove it is
- 4:29to ask people, and so I really wanted to do a poll that just
- 4:32flat out asked people, and for the first time I was able to convince
- 4:38enough people involved to do it. So it took a few years, but
- 4:42here we are, the morning drive version of an audio magazine and keeping you
- 4:46company as you prepare for your day. It's the Morning Show with President Scott.
- 4:55We were going to talk about some resolutions for conservatives for the new year,
- 4:59but I I think justin the weight in the meat of this pole is
- 5:03way more important, and we can do that in January. So let's dig
- 5:09in. I'll let you decide how you want to get into the meat of
- 5:12the poll, whether it's question by question or just broadly and generally discussing over
- 5:16the next two segments. Where do you want to start? Okay, So
- 5:19let's let's just do question by question. But let's start with the questions we
- 5:24asked to people who said that they cast a mail in ballot. Okay,
- 5:28Okay, So we asked voters, did you cast the mail did you vote
- 5:32in twenty twenty election presidential election in particular, and did you fill did you
- 5:38fill out a mail in ballot? Or did you go when you vote in
- 5:40person or some other way early voting whatever. Of the people who said that
- 5:45they voted absentee or mail in ballot, we then asked a series of questions
- 5:49about things they may or may not have done, or things that their friends
- 5:53and family may have done. The first question we asked was, during the
- 5:57twenty twenty election, did a friend or family member fill out your ballot in
- 6:01part or in full? On your behalf? So, did somebody else fill
- 6:05out your ballot? Is what we're asking, and of the respondents, nineteen
- 6:11percent of the respondents mail in voters said yes, somebody did that. Then
- 6:15we asked them, did you fill out someone else's ballot mail in ballid such
- 6:20as a spouse or a child, and twenty one percent of respondents said yes
- 6:27to that question. Now both of those things are illegal. Okay, So
- 6:31these are people admitting somebody else filled out a ballot who was not the person
- 6:38who was supposed to be filling out the ballot. And that question you just
- 6:41listed also includes potentially a friend, which expands it well beyond the confines of
- 6:47say a home or a family member. That's right, Yes, that's correct.
- 6:53Wow, that's correct. So that would that in and of itself,
- 6:57and we have other questions too, but that in and of itself would mean
- 7:00that about one in five ballots were illegal mail in ballots. Not all ballots
- 7:06mail in ballots, right, but about forty three percent of all ballots were
- 7:12mail in ballots. I was just going to say, Right, So if
- 7:15you actually go through and you do the math and you look at all of
- 7:18that, what you find out is if one in five mail in ballots were
- 7:24not on the up and up were illegal ballots. That translates to about thirteen
- 7:30million ballots nationwide. That would be the number just from those two questions.
- 7:34What other questions you ask those that went with the mail in? We also
- 7:40asked them, did you vote in twenty twenty in a state where you were
- 7:46no longer a permanent resident? So did you send in a mail in ballot
- 7:50in a state where you're not a permanent resident? That's illegal in every state.
- 7:54You can't cast a ballot in a state where you're no longer a permanent
- 7:57resident. Seventeen percent said yes to that question. Then we asked in the
- 8:03twenty twenty election, did you sign a ballot or ballot envelope on behalf of
- 8:07a friend or family member with or without his or her permission? So we're
- 8:11literally asking people, did you commit fraud? I mean this is a I
- 8:16mean, this is a federal crime. All these things are illegal. This
- 8:18is a you know, obviously fraud. Did you forge a signature? The
- 8:22answer to that question was seventeen percent said yes to that as well. So
- 8:28taken together those four questions, it's nineteen percent, twenty one percent, seventeen
- 8:33percent, and seventeen percent, And they're not necessarily exclusive you could have committed
- 8:37more than one kind of fraud. You could have said yes to more than
- 8:41one of those questions. So when I say it's about one in five ballots
- 8:45mail in ballots were cast illegally based on the results of the survey, that's
- 8:50a conservative number. It was probably higher than one in five. And that's
- 8:56absolutely stunning, absolute least stunning. So those are the questions we ask people
- 9:03who just cast mail in ballots. But then we asked a few more questions,
- 9:07do we have time to cover that. We're going to do that,
- 9:09and we're going to go and do that in the next segment. Justin thank
- 9:11you for that perfect segue moment. Justin Haskins has done his fair share of
- 9:18radio and television over the years. He knows these things back with more Justin
- 9:22Haskins, Merry Christmas. The information you're getting here about this poll is Merry
- 9:33Christmas to anybody out there that thinks, ah, there's no voter fraud that
- 9:35happens, Yeah there is. It's The Morning Show with Preston Scott. It's
- 9:43a poll coming out today. Heartland Institute. Justin Haskins recommended wrote to a
- 9:50poll that has been revealing I don't even know what the right word is.
- 9:56Justin shocking confirm Well, but is it? I mean, you had a
- 10:03theory, so it couldn't be shocking to you. It's going to be shocking
- 10:05to a bunch of people, and the arguments are going to line up.
- 10:09But we'll get to that in a second. Take us through the rest of
- 10:11this polling and what you did. Okay, So, in the last segment
- 10:16we talked about questions asked the people who filled out mail in ballot. Right,
- 10:20These the following questions I'm about to read were questions we asked to everybody,
- 10:24whether they voted by mail or not. Okay, we asked during the
- 10:28twenty twenty election, did a friend, family member, or organization such as
- 10:31the political party offer to pay or reward you for voting? So, did
- 10:37someone bribe you to vote? Eight percent of voters all voters said yes.
- 10:43Eight percent said they were offered money or a reward to vote in the twenty
- 10:48twenty election. That, of course, is also illegal. Do you know
- 10:52a friend, family member, or coworker or other acquaintance who has admitted to
- 10:54you that he or she cast a ballot in twenty twenty in a state other
- 10:58than his or her state of permanent residence. So now we're asking you,
- 11:03not did you do this thing, but do you know anyone who's told you
- 11:05that they voted in a state where they no longer live. So this was
- 11:09asked to everybody, ten percent of people said yes. Okay, so ten
- 11:16percent of all voters say someone admitted to them that they committed a kind of
- 11:20voter fraud. Then we asked about a different kind of voter fraud, same
- 11:24sort of question, but instead of voting in a different state, we asked,
- 11:28did this person admit that he or she filled out a ballot on behalf
- 11:31of another person? So did they fill out a ballot for a friend or
- 11:33family member or something? And eleven percent of people said yes to that question.
- 11:39So those are two different kinds of fraud that people are saying someone admitted
- 11:41to. So taking all that's different than the fraud that we talked about earlier.
- 11:46So taken all together, when I said twenty percent is a conservative figure,
- 11:52I think it's pretty pretty obvious that's that's a very conservative figure based on
- 11:56the results of this poll. Break down the poll in terms of your sampling
- 12:03and who you sampled, and what the margins are, Yeah, so we
- 12:09sampled them. It was ten eighty five, so one eighty five people.
- 12:13These are voters, people who either voted in the election. Well, most
- 12:20of the people, the vast majority, were people who voted in the twenty
- 12:24twenty election. There were some outliers who did not vote, but they were
- 12:28not included in the questions that I read to you before. The margin of
- 12:33error was about three percent for a poll that size, which is pretty common
- 12:39for national polls of likely voters, and the party affiliations were roughly a third
- 12:46each, So I think Democrats were number one, around thirty six percent or
- 12:52so, and then Republicans in the low thirties, and then other independents were
- 12:58the final category. Able to draw any conclusions based on those breakdowns of who,
- 13:03which party, which groups are most likely to have engaged in fraud,
- 13:07whether knowingly or not. Yeah, So we were not, And the reason
- 13:11for that is because in order to figure that question out, we would have
- 13:18needed to do a poll that was significantly larger, because to find the answer
- 13:22to that question, we would need a bigger sample size. Because you're asking
- 13:28people did you vote by mail? First? So that's a section of the
- 13:31So now you're down to thirty percent or forty percent or so of the people
- 13:35thirty percent of the people who answered the poll, And now you want to
- 13:39ask those people gotcha of that, who's a Republican? And then of those
- 13:43people who said yes to voting for fraud? And that makes it it's not
- 13:48big enough to get an accurate result. I have my own hunch on the
- 13:50answer to that question, but we'll leave that for another poll another day.
- 13:54What happens now justin I mean ideally, what happens now right Well, you
- 14:01know, in the break, you and I were talking about this and you
- 14:03came up with a what I think is a fantastic idea. I think a
- 14:07lot of the fraud that happened based on this survey is by people who did
- 14:11things that they probably didn't even know was illegal. They probably didn't know that
- 14:16it was wrong to fill out their husband or their wives ballot. They may
- 14:20not have known that, or they may not have known how serious that was.
- 14:24And so I think having a campaign that tells people reminds people, hey,
- 14:28you can't do this if you're voting by mail. If you do,
- 14:31you could go to jail, You could face massive fines. Do not do
- 14:35this. Warning people about that, I think is a big thing. I
- 14:37think another thing that states could do is if you're going to have mail in
- 14:41balloting, and I don't think that you should for most people unless it's absolutely
- 14:46necessary, and in some cases it is, but for most it's not.
- 14:48You should have in person value. But if you're going to have mail in
- 14:52balloting, make people get their signatures notarized. Provide a free service for a
- 14:56notary so that people have to get their signatures notarized. That would cut out
- 15:01almost all of the fraud we're talking about here, and it would make sure
- 15:05that our elections are truly secure. Does this get in front of lawmakers?
- 15:09Oh? Yes, we're making sure it's good's going out with the lawmakers today.
- 15:13Hundreds and hundreds of lawmakers across the country are going to see this today
- 15:18and hopefully they're going to do something about it. Federal Land State, Yep,
- 15:22Federal Land State. Beautiful. Justin is always unbelievable, great content.
- 15:28Thank you for doing the heavy lifting, and Merry Christmas to you and your
- 15:31family. Merry Christmas, Preston, take care. Thank you, sir,
- 15:35Justin Haskins with us from the Heartland Institute, and you've got breaking news right
- 15:41there that entire three segment visit on the Morning Show with Preston Scott