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The Kenny Report | 25 November · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 2: Tonight Pauline Hansen banned from the Senate for a week
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Speaker 2: over her burker stunt, and tonight I've got a world
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Speaker 2: exclusive sneak preview of a new movie that's just been
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Speaker 2: banned from Parliament House. Late today, another Pauline Hansen controversy.
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen returns to Australia and is grilled in question time,
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Speaker 2: but I think calling him a part time minister is
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Speaker 2: the wrong attack. Kristen Tate joins me from the US
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Speaker 2: as Donald Trump locks in a visit to China. Also
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Speaker 2: Tim Blair, Susio O'Brien and Stephen Sena tiempo.
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Speaker 1: So much to get through, let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Just on Pauline Hanson and yesterday's stunt of wearing a
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Speaker 2: burker into Parliament again. The One Nation leader has now
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Speaker 2: been censured by the Senate and banned from the chamber
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Speaker 2: for a full week. The irony here is pretty hard
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Speaker 2: to I mean, here was Hanson wearing the burker into
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Speaker 2: the Senate because the government won't even let her present
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Speaker 2: a bill to ban the burker. She's wearing the garment
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Speaker 2: that she wants banned. Yet the other politicians from Labor,
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Speaker 2: the Greens and the Coalition, they don't want to ban
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Speaker 2: the burker, but the now banned Hanson for wearing it.
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Speaker 1: It's topsy turvy world.
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Speaker 3: My position on banning the burker, and I still stand
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Speaker 3: strong by that. If they really believed in what they
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Speaker 3: were saying, they didn't want to ban the burker. Yep,
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Speaker 3: they denied me the right to wear them Flora Parliament.
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Speaker 3: There is no dress code on Flora Parliament, yet I'm
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Speaker 3: not allowed to wear it, so to me, it's been hypocritical.
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Speaker 2: Now, did Hansen break the rules with her stunt? Well,
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Speaker 2: as she said, there's no real dress code, but there's
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Speaker 2: supposed to be a ban on props.
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Speaker 1: And the burker looked a bit like a prop. But
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Speaker 1: others have been wearing.
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Speaker 2: Kafirs to display their anti Israel stance and Parliament dares
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Speaker 2: not censure them.
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Many countries banned the burker, including majority Muslim countries. The
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Speaker 2: burker is banned in Tunisia, Morocco and Cameroon. It's banned
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Speaker 2: in European countries like Denmark, France, Austria, Switzerland and Belgium,
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Speaker 2: and it's banned in Sri Lanka, Chad, Congo and others.
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Speaker 1: So you think we'd be.
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Speaker 2: Able to have a sensible debate about it here, especially
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Speaker 2: because we're supposed to be interested in the rights of
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Speaker 2: women and girls and the dangers of fundamentalist Muslim But
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Speaker 2: now our politicians just condemn handsome ban her from parliament,
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Speaker 2: and they avert their eyes from the real problem.
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Speaker 1: They actually talk.
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Speaker 2: About the burker now as if they're defending freedom, well tolerance.
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Speaker 2: What the freedom of some men in some circumstances to
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Speaker 2: force their daughters and wives to hide their faces in public?
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Speaker 1: Should we tolerate that in our country? Fair question.
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Speaker 2: I would have thought this is just another example of
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Speaker 2: our country losing touch with its values and lacking the confidence,
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Speaker 2: courage and sense to.
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Speaker 1: Discuss serious issues.
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Speaker 2: I know some of you have been worried, fretting about
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Speaker 2: the future of our country, Concerned your children might not
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Speaker 2: be able to afford any electricity in the future, but
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Speaker 2: rest assured. Chris Bowen returned to Canberra today. Yeah, the
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Speaker 2: nation's climate and energy minister returned from pretending he's saving
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Speaker 2: the planet in.
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Speaker 1: Brazil, and he got back to his day job.
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Speaker 2: Of destroying our energy grid, and the Opposition focused pretty
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Speaker 2: heavily on him.
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Speaker 4: How many days of parliament will the part time minister
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Speaker 4: miss in twenty twenty six and what will be the
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Speaker 4: cost to Australian taxpayers of the minister's full time presidential duties.
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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, mister speaker, and I appreciate very
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Speaker 5: much the question from the leader of the opposition. Now,
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Speaker 5: mister speaker, when you are a patriotic party of government,
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Speaker 5: do you celebrate national successes whether you are in opposition
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Speaker 5: or in government?
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Speaker 1: Ah?
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Speaker 2: Yes, the world is so lucky to have him, he reckons,
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Speaker 2: and so are we. Apparently this bloke does not have
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Speaker 2: a good grip on reality, does he. First he continues
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Speaker 2: to argue that his reckless rollout of renewables, which is
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Speaker 2: pushing prices up to record levels, will eventually have the
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Speaker 2: opposite effect, and he also seems to think that running
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Speaker 2: around with the United Nations crowd getting more countries to
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Speaker 2: adopt the same mad approach makes him kind of important.
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Speaker 6: As president of COP thirty one negotiations. How many countries
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Speaker 6: will the Minister be required to be, how many miles
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Speaker 6: will we need to travel? And how much taxpayer money
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Speaker 6: will be spent in funding the full time presidential duties.
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Speaker 1: Of the part time minister.
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Speaker 5: Last year's COP president was Muktar Babiev, who was the
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Speaker 5: Minister of the Environment of Azebaja. The president of the
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Speaker 5: first COP I went to was Minister Shukri, who continued
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Speaker 5: his role in the Egyptian cabinet while being president of
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Speaker 5: the COP. So to suggest that this is a full
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Speaker 5: time job.
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Speaker 7: Somehow is a complete and invention. It's a fantasy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The whole part time minister thing is a bit of
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Speaker 2: a misdirected attack from the Coalition.
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Speaker 1: In my view, the.
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Speaker 2: Idea that Bowen doesn't devote enough of his time to
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Speaker 2: our electricity grid is not the problem. The worry is
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Speaker 2: that we get too much of him. The more he does,
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Speaker 2: the more.
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Speaker 1: He stuffs up. I say, send him.
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Speaker 2: To Brazil or Turkey or wherever the COP crowd are
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Speaker 2: hanging out. The more he's away from Australia, the less
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Speaker 2: damage he can do here. Now, I want to talk
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Speaker 2: you through a long and reasonably complicated but very important issue.
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Speaker 1: A court case.
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Speaker 2: Brought against the Commonwealth by Fiona Brown, the former chief
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Speaker 2: of staff to the then Defense Minister Linda Reynolds was
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Speaker 2: slotted yesterday for hearing in March twenty twenty seven. Reynolds
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Speaker 2: herself is in the middle of legal action against the
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Speaker 2: Commonwealth too. Both are seeking compensation for the way they
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Speaker 2: were treated wrongly accused of a political cover up in
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Speaker 2: the wake of the Brittney Higgins rape scandal. This has
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Speaker 2: happened just when the political scandal around the way Labor
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Speaker 2: used what turned out to be false allegations of a
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Speaker 2: political cover up over the Britney Higgins rape allegations to
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Speaker 2: smear the Coalition and help win their way into power.
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Speaker 2: Well that's just starting to catch up now with Anthony Albanesi. Now,
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Speaker 2: as I see here on Sky and wrote in The
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Speaker 2: Australian four years ago, when the claims of a cover
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Speaker 2: up were first made, they never made sense. But thanks
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Speaker 2: mainly to diligent and detailed reporting by Janet Olbrickson and
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Speaker 2: The Australian, the truth about Labour's complicity in and later
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Speaker 2: weaponization of that lie is finally being dragged into the
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Speaker 2: public domain.
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Speaker 8: This scandal has been going on for almost five years,
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Speaker 8: so it needs no introduction. The allegations of a political
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Speaker 8: cover up by Britney Higgins continue to reverberate. I often
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Speaker 8: get asked the question when will it end. Well, it's
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Speaker 8: not going to end anytime soon.
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Speaker 9: I'm afraid the truth is now binding on Brittany on David,
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Speaker 9: on journalists.
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Speaker 10: It is binding.
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Speaker 9: The fight for the truth, after five years, is now
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Speaker 9: out there.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister is now on the back foot about
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Speaker 2: the behavior of his own government and its ministers. He
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Speaker 2: dodged questions on all this last week.
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Speaker 11: Judges in the in the Supreme when the good boy
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Speaker 11: now found.
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Speaker 7: There is no political cover up with Britney Higgins grape.
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Speaker 12: Do you accept close minds the kind of commenting on
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Speaker 12: legal madice.
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Speaker 13: But it's not illegal matter, that's not current cases titles.
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Speaker 4: Supreme jugement in Wa found no Liberal Party cover us,
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Speaker 4: that didn't find him for even top.
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Speaker 10: Right off the charge.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, that's that's kind of the big issue. That's
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Speaker 12: kind of the big issue. That's kind of the big issue.
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Speaker 1: Hmmm, So how do we get here?
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Speaker 2: Back in February twenty twenty one, Britney Higgins went to
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Speaker 2: the media with claims she was raped by fellow Liberal
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Speaker 2: staffer Bruce Lherman in Parliament House in the office of
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Speaker 2: their boss Defense Minister Lynda Reynolds in the early hours
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Speaker 2: of a Saturday morning, almost two years earlier, back in
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Speaker 2: March twenty nineteen. Eventually, police investigations resulted in chargers. Lehman
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Speaker 2: maintained his innocence and the trial was aborted after a
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Speaker 2: breach of jury rules and the charges were dropped. But then,
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Speaker 2: in Lehman's failed defamation case against Channel ten, Federal Court
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Speaker 2: Judge Michael Lee found that on the balance of probabilities,
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Speaker 2: Lehman had raped Higgins. But Lee also found that the
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Speaker 2: other Higgins allegations, the main ones used by Labor to
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Speaker 2: inflict damage on the Morrison government, claiming a political cover
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Speaker 2: up by the Coalition, were unfounded, and in a separate
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Speaker 2: case in the Western Australian Supreme Court, Justice Paul Tottle
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Speaker 2: also found there was no evidence of a cover up,
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Speaker 2: describing the political cover up claims as dishonest. Reynolds always
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Speaker 2: argued she provided appropriate care and support for her staffer
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Speaker 2: and that there was no cover up.
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Speaker 9: My first and only concern was for the welfare of
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Speaker 9: my staff member. I took, I received and took all
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Speaker 9: appropriate advice from ministerial and parliamentary services and all of
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Speaker 9: that information was communicated to my former staff member at
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Speaker 9: the time. It was actually me who suggested that she
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Speaker 9: might like to consider talking to the Australian Federal Police,
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Speaker 9: and it was actually me who facilitated the first meeting
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Speaker 9: with the Australian Federal Police with an appropriately qualified officer,
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Speaker 9: and the process from there was a matter between my
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Speaker 9: staff member and the AFP appropriately So.
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Speaker 2: Now, despite all this, Labor was on the offensive from
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Speaker 2: the moment the allegations were made, attacking the Coalition, and
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Speaker 2: Senator Reynolds and Senator Katie Gallagher denied claims that she
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Speaker 2: knew about the rape allegations before they were made public.
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Speaker 1: I know where this started.
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Speaker 14: I am now going to go to Senate to Sheldon
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Speaker 14: and give him the call to return to his questioning.
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Speaker 1: Order.
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Speaker 15: Sorry, on the handside, we'd like to understand what she's
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Speaker 15: just said.
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Speaker 10: I know where this started. What do you mean, send it.
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Speaker 1: Wrong if you want.
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Speaker 9: I really don't think we should be doing this here,
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Speaker 9: but if you want me to do that, yes, I
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Speaker 9: think I was told by one of your senators two
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Speaker 9: weeks before about what you were intending to do with
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Speaker 9: the story in my office.
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Speaker 10: Two weeks before I had no knowledge of this, No
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Speaker 10: one had any knowledge.
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Speaker 1: Okay, how dare you order? Now we will move.
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Speaker 2: But Gallagher later had to correct the record when it
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Speaker 2: was revealed that she had been tipped off.
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Speaker 16: I was provided with information in the days before the
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Speaker 16: allegations were first reported, and I did nothing with that information,
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Speaker 16: absolutely nothing. I was asked to keep it to myself,
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Speaker 16: and I did.
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Speaker 2: Labor consistently and vigorously accused the Coalition of a cover.
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Speaker 10: Up, just a blanket.
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Speaker 15: What let's be clear, it is part of a cover
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Speaker 15: up and a deferral of being clear with the Parliament.
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Speaker 2: How all of this placed enormous pressure on Reynolds and
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Speaker 2: it culminated in her collapsing at Parliament and being hospitalized.
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Speaker 9: You know, one of the things I realized is that,
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Speaker 9: you know, no matter how strong you are, no matter
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Speaker 9: how resilient you are, everybody has a breaking point. And
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Speaker 9: they found mine, both mentally and physically. It wasn't just me,
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Speaker 9: I mean my chief of staff, you know, Fiona Brown,
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Speaker 9: She's been very public about you know, how it has
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Speaker 9: destroyed her life. And then to hear on Lisa Wilkinson's interview,
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Speaker 9: to hear what was being said about particularly about Fiona
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Speaker 9: and myself about what we did or didn't do, you know,
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Speaker 9: and it just wasn't true. And I think now what's
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Speaker 9: come out in the trial, in a criminal trial and
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Speaker 9: also now on the Sofronoff report, it demonstrates that none
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Speaker 9: of it was ever true. None of it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an incredibly vicious political attack and I've
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Speaker 2: got to say that long before the court cases and inquiries,
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Speaker 2: it was clear that political cover up claims were baseless.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was telling you way back in early
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, soon after the Higgins bombshell was dropped,
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Speaker 2: when I revealed the dossier that was prepared by Higgins
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Speaker 2: and her then boyfriend now husband, David Shiraz and handed
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Speaker 2: to Canberra journalists. This is the dossier that he circulated
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Speaker 2: to the media.
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Speaker 1: It includes a detailed.
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Speaker 2: Timeline of events, a table showing everyone who knew about
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Speaker 2: various aspects of the rape allegation, notes about various meetings
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Speaker 2: and discussions, emails and text messages between Miss Higgins and
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Speaker 2: staffers and police. It also includes a series of photos
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Speaker 2: of Miss Higgins with politicians and tips for the media
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Speaker 2: about where to find video footage of her in their files.
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Speaker 1: Of political coverage.
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Speaker 2: Looking through this, I suppose the intent is to demonstrate
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Speaker 2: that a lot of people knew something about the alleged rape,
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Speaker 2: but not enough was done.
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Speaker 1: Yet we have to keep coming back to.
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Speaker 2: The point that miss Higgins chose not to pursue police
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Speaker 2: action and she wanted privacy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but journalists didn't disclose.
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Speaker 2: That they'd received this doss here as they went with
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Speaker 2: the narrative that it was pushing. I reiterate that this
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Speaker 2: was all clear, and I said so publicly right back
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Speaker 2: at the start. Journalists have been eager to make this
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Speaker 2: a political scandal rather than one of personal trauma and
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Speaker 2: criminal behavior.
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Speaker 17: Mister Linda Reynolds revealing she contacted a federal Police assistant
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Speaker 17: commissioner five days after Miss Higgins was allegedly raped in
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Speaker 17: the Minister's office, but didn't tell the Prime Minister it
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Speaker 17: was not.
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Speaker 10: My story to tell. It never was.
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Speaker 18: To see a woman asking for help as a political
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Speaker 18: problem first and a person in need a distance second.
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Speaker 18: This is a culture the PM has presided over for
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Speaker 18: three years. Prime Minister, you indicated this week that after
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Speaker 18: a full day to consider the horror of what Britney
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Speaker 18: says she experienced, you needed your wife to tell you
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Speaker 18: how to react. I wonder if that means that you
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Speaker 18: too have now fallen victim to that.
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Speaker 2: Culture, chasing justice, chasing reform, or chasing the Prime minister.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But fast forward a year on from then and after
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Speaker 2: Labor one government, Higgins was awarded a compensation payment of
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Speaker 2: more than two million DAR from the Commonwealth, a settlement
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Speaker 2: based in part on the false claims against Reynolds and
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Speaker 2: her office, but in which Reynolds was barred from defending herself.
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Speaker 2: She's now taking legal action of her own as if,
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Speaker 2: as is her former chief of staff Fiona Brown.
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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, and.
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Speaker 2: While this all plays out, the telling fact is that
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Speaker 2: two court cases in the Federal Court and the WA
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court have found there was no political cover up.
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Speaker 2: Yet Reynolds has never had an apology from Senator Wong,
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Speaker 2: from Senator Gallagher, from the Labor government, or from the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister who now just wants it all to go away.
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Speaker 2: Alberanizi is now shamelessly hiding behind the rape allegation as
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Speaker 2: a way to avoid addressing Labour's erroneous claims about a
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Speaker 2: political cover up.
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Speaker 10: Should your senators who led the.
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Speaker 16: Charge of a Liberal Party coverer over the Higgins pay apologize.
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Speaker 10: To the threads, Well, that's not right.
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Speaker 12: I don't accept that characterization.
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Speaker 1: What do you accept? I don't accept. I don't accept.
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Speaker 12: You accept that I don't accept. I don't accept that characterization.
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Speaker 12: I don't accept that characterization. A judge found that, on
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Speaker 12: the basis of probability, a rape occurred. Hang on, hang on,
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Speaker 12: a rape occurred in That is what a judge found
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Speaker 12: on the balance of probability in a ministerial office in
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Speaker 12: parlmer House.
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Speaker 10: I think that's a pretty big issue. But isn't it
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Speaker 10: separate to the allegations.
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Speaker 19: Of a cover up?
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Speaker 1: I think that's I think that is a pretty big issue.
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Speaker 4: Isn't two and a half million dollars a year?
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Speaker 12: You can keep asking the same question and you'll get
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Speaker 12: the same answer, because because it's not a question aimed
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Speaker 12: at politics, this is not a political decision by me
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Speaker 12: as Prime Minister. And that is entirely appropriate that that.
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Speaker 1: Be the case.
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Speaker 2: He just won't address it willing. The trouble for Albansi
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Speaker 2: and Senators Wong and Gallagher and the Government is that
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Speaker 2: Reynolds is pursuing justice, pursuing the truth So where.
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Speaker 10: Does that leave us.
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Speaker 8: It means that one of the longest and most damaging
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Speaker 8: political scandals that this country has seen is not yet over.
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Speaker 2: The Commonwealth using tax pay dollars, of course, is throwing
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Speaker 2: everything at Reynolds and Brown to avoid compensating them, and astonishingly,
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Speaker 2: the Greens leader Larissa Waters says any compensation that they
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Speaker 2: win should be donated to sexual violence charities. Look, these women,
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Speaker 2: in my view, have been treated appallingly from the start.
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Speaker 2: It's upended their lives and any compensation they're awarded should
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Speaker 2: be theirs to use, however they choose. The sooner the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister and his ministers apologize to Reynolds and her
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Speaker 2: former chief of staff Brown, the better they should do
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Speaker 2: that because of the political implications and because of the
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Speaker 2: legal positioning, but also just out of basic human decency.
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Speaker 2: Camber now and catch up with the Shadow Communications Minister
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Speaker 2: Melissa Macintosh. Thanks for joining us, Melissa, you would have
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Speaker 2: followed this case. Surely, human decency demands that the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister and Senator Wong in particular and Gallagher owe an
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Speaker 2: apology to Fiona Brown and Linda Reynolds.
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Speaker 20: Thanks Chris, I want to acknowledge the strength in that
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Speaker 20: piece that you put together and your opening, and you're right,
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Speaker 20: it's time the Prime Minister and the senators did the
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Speaker 20: right thing. Sometimes feels like there's one sort of rule
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Speaker 20: for when it comes to labor women, for other women
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Speaker 20: of Australia, but there's another rule for Conservative women and
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Speaker 20: it's okay to come after us. And they went after
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Speaker 20: Linda and you can see the pain on her face
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Speaker 20: in that interview and when she's described what she's gone through,
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Speaker 20: and that interview with the Prime Minister where he's ducking
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Speaker 20: and weaving is extraordinary. He played a part in coming
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Speaker 20: after Linda and her chiefest stuff. He allowed his senators
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Speaker 20: to do what they did. So if he wanted to
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Speaker 20: play politics at the time along with his colleagues, will
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Speaker 20: you know he should be prepared to front up to
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Speaker 20: both Linda and her chief of staff and the Australian
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Speaker 20: people on the truth, on the truth, because this is
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Speaker 20: what it's about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the truth matters. It's disgusting what happened to them,
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Speaker 2: and we'll stay on it. We'll definitely stay on it,
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Speaker 2: and we'll stay on the Prime Minister over it.
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Speaker 7: Let's come back to political issues.
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Speaker 2: At the moment in your portfolio and the social media
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Speaker 2: band and being trumpeted now around the world.
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Speaker 1: December ten is the D day.
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Speaker 2: Do we have any sense that we should be confident
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Speaker 2: about the way this is going to be implemented.
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Speaker 20: My question now to the government is what does success
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Speaker 20: actually look like?
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Speaker 1: Because when you've.
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Speaker 20: Got platforms still being dribbled in, and it's so late
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Speaker 20: in the game, when we're now learning that platforms could
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Speaker 20: compel Australians to use digital ID and with meta, they've
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Speaker 20: said if they can't verify someone's age, then they will
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Speaker 20: be asking for a birth certificate or a driver's license,
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Speaker 20: and we don't know where that data is going to
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Speaker 20: be stored. They'll be using a third party provider to
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Speaker 20: obtain that data. So there's a big question mark around
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Speaker 20: We already know Australians hate the idea of digital ID
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Speaker 20: and around the store of people's data. It's very sensitive information.
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Speaker 20: So it's moving beyond the concept which we all agree
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Speaker 20: with around protecting kids into something else that it was
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Speaker 20: never meant to be about.
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Speaker 2: And the problem is, I suppose once you hand over
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Speaker 2: that data it's of no use to them if you're
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Speaker 2: over sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Once you're over sixteen, but they could hang on.
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Speaker 8: To it.
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Speaker 20: And how long are they going to hang on to it?
22:26
Speaker 20: For speaking to some of the platforms, I'm hearing the
22:30
Speaker 20: third party provider will destroy it pretty quickly, but we
22:33
Speaker 20: don't know what pretty quickly actually means. And as I said,
22:37
Speaker 20: the idea that your data is stored overseas in an
22:40
Speaker 20: offshore data center, it's just not acceptable, the Minister for
22:44
Speaker 20: Communications promised Australian She even put it on her social media,
22:48
Speaker 20: calling it a myth that people will be required to
22:51
Speaker 20: show digital ida And now we're finding it is that
22:53
Speaker 20: once again with this government, is the actually truth? They're
22:56
Speaker 20: not telling the Australian people the truth.
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Speaker 2: Melissa Macintosh, thanks so much for joining us. We'll keep
23:02
Speaker 2: an eye on that one too. We're counting down to
23:04
Speaker 2: December the tenthlet's see how all that goes. Now, I
23:07
Speaker 2: want to go to what is really a world exclusive
23:10
Speaker 2: preview of the new Pauline Hanson movie, the announcement of
23:14
Speaker 2: the movie length version of a Please Explain Cartoons produced
23:18
Speaker 2: by step Mate Studios in Melbourne and our mate Mark Nicholson. Well,
23:21
Speaker 2: that was supposed to happen tonight in the Parliament House theater,
23:26
Speaker 2: but late today it got banned on the grounds that
23:30
Speaker 2: the movie trailer and excerpts might offend people.
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Speaker 1: So in a world first, here's some of that trailer.
23:39
Speaker 21: Waits upon a time in so called Australia, our culture war,
23:44
Speaker 21: tour the nation apart, and somehow you're left eat one.
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Speaker 7: And I should know. I'm the Prime Minister, Holmo.
23:57
Speaker 1: This is by.
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Speaker 7: Good morning, fellow white straight males.
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Speaker 21: Hey, big boy.
24:13
Speaker 7: Justice, the oldest full.
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Speaker 1: Tiant is nan again.
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Speaker 2: None again, There's so much more. You're gonna love it.
24:23
Speaker 2: When I cut up.
24:23
Speaker 1: When I caught up with Mark Nicholson.
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Speaker 2: Late today, I noted that he would have known, of
24:28
Speaker 2: course that the movie would be controversial, but surely he
24:31
Speaker 2: didn't expect it to be banned at Parliament House.
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Speaker 7: I cannot believe it.
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Speaker 15: I touched down today here in camera in our nation's capital.
24:39
Speaker 15: I've done my hair, put good clothes on, and they've
24:43
Speaker 15: sent us away. And I have no idea why. It's
24:45
Speaker 15: a super progressive movie. Chris, what's the problem. I have
24:48
Speaker 15: no idea what they're going on about. It's actually it
24:51
Speaker 15: really just does anger me. I think they've wanted to
24:54
Speaker 15: cancel this for about a week and they've just kept
24:56
Speaker 15: sending us emails wanting to look at the content, wanting
24:59
Speaker 15: to look at the content, not giving us any reason
25:01
Speaker 15: as to why they're doing it. And then ultimately the
25:03
Speaker 15: reason is they're concerned that it may offend a person,
25:07
Speaker 15: which like one person, and I think this just speaks
25:10
Speaker 15: to just why the whole industry, the whole arts industry,
25:13
Speaker 15: is completely broken. That's really that's the reason why we
25:17
Speaker 15: don't create anything good in this country anymore. This fear
25:20
Speaker 15: of causing offense is just paralyzing the arts.
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Speaker 2: Well, it underscores exactly the point you're making in this movie.
25:26
Speaker 2: I suppose you call it the super progressive movie, but
25:29
Speaker 2: you're actually attacking political correctness with a pretty fierce and
25:34
Speaker 2: biting satire that we're all the way through it right.
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Speaker 15: One hundred percent, and honestly, at its core, the message
25:42
Speaker 15: of this film is actually a really, really good one
25:44
Speaker 15: and it comes from witnessing what Pauline said in Parliament,
25:48
Speaker 15: but that none of these lefties listened to, which is
25:51
Speaker 15: that we're not saying you can't be a lefty, you
25:54
Speaker 15: can't be progressive, you can't be trans, you can't be original.
25:57
Speaker 15: We're just saying don't act like a victim.
25:59
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
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Speaker 15: And it might be a bit of tough love, and
26:02
Speaker 15: sure a lot of it might be antagonistic, but ultimately
26:06
Speaker 15: it's a really good story. We've got a really good message.
26:09
Speaker 15: It's a shame that they won't support it here at
26:12
Speaker 15: Australian Parliament House. I think if they actually saw the content,
26:15
Speaker 15: much like the cartoons, the actual core crux of the
26:18
Speaker 15: message is actually a really good one and I think
26:21
Speaker 15: a lot of people would be better off experiencing it.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 22: I can't wait to see the whole thing, especially given
26:26
Speaker 22: I told you I'm happy to play a small role
26:29
Speaker 22: in my voice over my character. But I've got to
26:32
Speaker 22: tell you that even the trailer you sent to us,
26:34
Speaker 22: which went for about a minute twenty we played about
26:37
Speaker 22: forty seconds of it there at the start of this interview,
26:40
Speaker 22: but we couldn't show all.
26:41
Speaker 2: Of that on here because we know it would attract
26:45
Speaker 2: complaints that would go to the broadcasting authorities and it
26:49
Speaker 2: just ties you up in process to defend your right
26:53
Speaker 2: to broadcast. So it is difficult to make politically incorrect
26:57
Speaker 2: jokes these days.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, and that's why we're fully committed to this
27:04
Speaker 15: we're doing a completely independent run, and today's only sort
27:08
Speaker 15: of firmed that strategy up for us as well. We're
27:11
Speaker 15: going direct to consumer. I've spoken to a few of
27:14
Speaker 15: the big streamers and there's definitely interest there on the movie.
27:18
Speaker 15: But we just want to get this movie out to people,
27:20
Speaker 15: so we're directly consumed distributing it via the website superprogressivemovie
27:25
Speaker 15: dot com. You can pre order from today, and we've
27:27
Speaker 15: locked in cinemas around the country. We're doing live events
27:30
Speaker 15: so that they can't stop us. And to be honest
27:32
Speaker 15: that I feel the weight of this because it's completely independent.
27:37
Speaker 15: We've got Pauline Hanson and the whole team here is
27:39
Speaker 15: supporting us. Nowhere else would you see a movie like
27:42
Speaker 15: this being made. Nowhere else can make this because it's
27:45
Speaker 15: completely hijacked. The whole industry is completely hijacked. So I've
27:48
Speaker 15: got an extraordinary opportunity here, so we're going hard. But
27:51
Speaker 15: I just didn't want to squander that opportunity because you
27:53
Speaker 15: will not see this movie anywhere else, and I think
27:56
Speaker 15: it's important to show.
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Speaker 2: It says so much about free speech in this country,
28:00
Speaker 2: and I mean, Pauline's in the middle of controversy now
28:02
Speaker 2: of course for wearing a garment.
28:04
Speaker 7: She wants band and the people who want you to
28:06
Speaker 7: be able to.
28:06
Speaker 1: Wear it are the ones who've kicked her out of Parliament.
28:09
Speaker 7: If you can work that all that irony out.
28:12
Speaker 2: But the point is with this cartoon, from what I've seen,
28:15
Speaker 2: the bits we won't show on this station, from the trailer,
28:19
Speaker 2: it's the sort of politically incorrect humor that you see in.
28:23
Speaker 1: South Park any day of the week. I think we're tougher.
28:27
Speaker 2: On this stuff in Australia than they are in America,
28:29
Speaker 2: for instance.
28:32
Speaker 15: Yeah, which is we're talking about is in the office before.
28:35
Speaker 15: It's like that's I feel like we need a freedom
28:37
Speaker 15: of speech in this country. Goodness gracious, like it would
28:40
Speaker 15: actually protect us a lot. It's happened a lot throughout
28:42
Speaker 15: the cartoon series. But this is a private event too, Chris.
28:47
Speaker 15: The idea of these people coming here and getting offended
28:50
Speaker 15: is absurd. It's an absolutely absurd idea that where there
28:54
Speaker 15: is a three hundred super fans, they've paid money, they've
28:57
Speaker 15: gotten a babysitter, they've traveled.
28:59
Speaker 1: In, they've got I want to come and watch the movie.
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Speaker 15: But the dandy cinemas in Camera I just found out
29:03
Speaker 15: just before coming to where now have looked after us.
29:06
Speaker 15: So we've got an alternative venue tonight that aren't a
29:08
Speaker 15: bunch of cowards, and they're going to look after us
29:11
Speaker 15: and give us a spot to be able to show
29:13
Speaker 15: the trailer, and we're going to show the first five
29:14
Speaker 15: minutes for the for the good people who have come
29:16
Speaker 15: and supported us.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic.
29:18
Speaker 2: Now, how are you going to go though when you
29:19
Speaker 2: try and show this in cinemas next year?
29:22
Speaker 1: Are these cinemas going to.
29:24
Speaker 7: Be attacked or the cancel crew going to be out there?
29:26
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, you have a this is a
29:28
Speaker 7: cartoon mine. Your animation of Ularu being blown up? I mean,
29:33
Speaker 7: how could that be taken seriously? I know, and it's.
29:39
Speaker 1: It's it's it's ridiculous.
29:40
Speaker 15: But these cinemas have said they've they're they're well and
29:43
Speaker 15: truly aware of what they've gotten, what they've signed on to.
29:47
Speaker 15: We've confirmed with them that that's what we want to do.
29:49
Speaker 15: These are community events. We're bringing people, like minded people together.
29:52
Speaker 15: These are really cool events that we're going to be
29:54
Speaker 15: throwing at these cinemas. They're private events. I would be
29:58
Speaker 15: I would be gutted if any of them any of
30:00
Speaker 15: them pulled out. We've even gotten a center up in Darwin,
30:03
Speaker 15: which is incredible. Like we're going every single capital city.
30:06
Speaker 15: We're going around. Pauline's going to be there, We've got
30:08
Speaker 15: the orange carpet, We're going to have a media wall.
30:10
Speaker 15: I'm just really excited about it because it's the first,
30:13
Speaker 15: I'm probably only film that I can imagine that's going
30:16
Speaker 15: this entirely independent, and I think, like I said, I
30:19
Speaker 15: just didn't want to swander the opportunity to really do
30:21
Speaker 15: something special with it.
30:23
Speaker 2: Well, I have a great night, Matt, and good luck
30:24
Speaker 2: with it, and we'll talk to you again on Thursday.
30:28
Speaker 1: Mate.
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Speaker 15: Thanks Chris, you're a legend mate.
30:31
Speaker 1: The super progressive movie.
30:33
Speaker 2: Keep an eye up for this one and for the
30:34
Speaker 2: ongoing controversy. Now we're going to go to a break.
30:37
Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll go to the US. We'll
30:38
Speaker 2: catch up with Kristen tape. Donald Trump is heading to
30:42
Speaker 2: China next year. The big news out of Washington is
30:49
Speaker 2: that US President Donald Trump has held a lengthy phone
30:52
Speaker 2: conversation with China's She's Jingping, and Trump has accepted She's
30:57
Speaker 2: invitation to visit China again next April.
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Speaker 1: It's not quite Nixon.
31:02
Speaker 2: Guys to China, but with the current side of the world,
31:04
Speaker 2: it shapes as an historic meeting.
31:07
Speaker 1: As I put to our US contributor to Christian Tite.
31:10
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is this is significant. Remember Trump initially promised
31:15
Speaker 13: to sixty percent.
31:16
Speaker 10: Plus tariff on China to kind of smash their unfair
31:20
Speaker 10: trade cheeks.
31:21
Speaker 13: They've been dumping cheap junk on America, stealing our ip
31:25
Speaker 13: and killing American jobs. President Trump understands full well the
31:29
Speaker 13: kind of global threat that China represents. President Trump's policies
31:34
Speaker 13: with China seemed to be working. The one percent tariffs
31:38
Speaker 13: on top of the existing ones have kind of forced
31:41
Speaker 13: China to the table. They paused their rare earth export controls.
31:45
Speaker 13: We saw them open up their markets to American farmers.
31:48
Speaker 13: So Trump's Trump's strategy on China seemed to work, and
31:52
Speaker 13: this latest development is a great step forward.
31:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crucial. It's going to be absolutely crucial for
31:58
Speaker 2: the world on tribe. But of course, when it comes
31:59
Speaker 2: to global security and all sorts of flashpoints around the world,
32:04
Speaker 2: these two superpowers need to communicate. We've got a bit
32:08
Speaker 2: of readout on the phone call between Donald Trump and
32:12
Speaker 2: Gigiping from Caroline Levit, let's have a listen.
32:14
Speaker 19: Russia Ukraine did come up, but the focus was mainly
32:18
Speaker 19: on the trade deal that we are working on with
32:20
Speaker 19: China and those relations and how they are moving in
32:23
Speaker 19: a positive direction.
32:25
Speaker 7: Yeah, they spoke about Russia Ukraine.
32:27
Speaker 2: Look, by the time they meet next year, hopefully Russia
32:31
Speaker 2: Ukraine there's been a settlement there, because we'll talk about
32:34
Speaker 2: that in a moment.
32:35
Speaker 7: But really trade would be number one.
32:38
Speaker 2: Secondly, I suppose we would want to get some sort
32:41
Speaker 2: of discussion and outcome or assurances between these leaders when.
32:45
Speaker 1: It comes to Taiwan, wouldn't.
32:46
Speaker 10: We Yes, of course.
32:50
Speaker 13: And Trump again, it seems to me he's the right
32:52
Speaker 13: person at the right time to be handling these sensitive issues.
32:56
Speaker 10: The last few decades have seen this.
32:57
Speaker 13: Kind of global realignment, and we find only have a
33:00
Speaker 13: president stepping forward that yes, represents the America First vision,
33:05
Speaker 13: but is also willing to work with these other world
33:09
Speaker 13: leaders that past presidents such as Joe Biden had no
33:13
Speaker 13: idea how to handle. And the messaging is really spot
33:16
Speaker 13: on right now from the White House on these issues.
33:19
Speaker 2: Here now we're when it comes to Ukraine, of course,
33:21
Speaker 2: those patient negotiations have been taking place, and Donald Trump
33:24
Speaker 2: says he'll now finalize discussions with you, crying directly with
33:29
Speaker 2: Vladimir Zelenski's Caroline Levitt again.
33:33
Speaker 19: We feel as though we're in a very good place.
33:35
Speaker 19: Of course, we have to make sure that all of
33:37
Speaker 19: these points are agreed to, and then of course we're
33:39
Speaker 19: going to have to make sure the other party in
33:41
Speaker 19: this war, the Russians, agree to them as well. But
33:44
Speaker 19: I think the President deserves a great deal of credit
33:46
Speaker 19: for the amount of energy and effort he's put in
33:48
Speaker 19: to trying to bring these two sides to an end
33:50
Speaker 19: of this war. He wants to see this killing stop.
33:53
Speaker 19: As for any deadlines, he wants to see this end
33:55
Speaker 19: as soon as possible.
33:57
Speaker 2: No confirmation from Ukraine as when this meeting will take place,
34:02
Speaker 2: but it's expected to be fairly soon, and there's a
34:05
Speaker 2: lot of optimism on this front Christin.
34:08
Speaker 7: There is.
34:09
Speaker 13: However, we've had, you know, a lot of optimism at
34:11
Speaker 13: different points, and the deal still hasn't gotten done. I
34:15
Speaker 13: think the president, President Trump understands that unfortunately Putin has
34:18
Speaker 13: a lot of leverage here and he and Zelenski are
34:20
Speaker 13: going to need.
34:21
Speaker 10: To work with Putin to reach a deal.
34:24
Speaker 13: Trump in the past has portrayed Putin as being genuinely
34:27
Speaker 13: interested in finding a way to end this war, but
34:30
Speaker 13: it is going too likely involve some concessions to Russia.
34:34
Speaker 10: The American people are so tired of this conflict. They
34:37
Speaker 10: want it to end, and.
34:38
Speaker 13: Frankly, we're tired of spending so much money on this
34:42
Speaker 13: seemingly never ending conflict.
34:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll keep an eye on that and looking
34:47
Speaker 2: out for those letters, those new developments, but not to
34:51
Speaker 2: put too far on a point of it, and not
34:53
Speaker 2: to diminish what's happening in Ukraine.
34:55
Speaker 1: Of course, I was going to go to the battle.
34:56
Speaker 2: In the Republican Party. I mean, the MAGA movement is
35:02
Speaker 2: going through, starting to open up into a big schism here,
35:05
Speaker 2: and particularly because of Marjorie Tayler Green.
35:08
Speaker 1: She's resigned now, resigning.
35:10
Speaker 2: From the Republican Party, and she's having a go with
35:13
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on the way out here.
35:15
Speaker 14: She is My only goal and desire has ever been
35:19
Speaker 14: to hold the Republican Party accountable for the promises it
35:23
Speaker 14: makes to the American people and.
35:25
Speaker 10: Put America first.
35:26
Speaker 14: With that has brought years of NonStop, never ending personal attacks,
35:31
Speaker 14: death threats, lawfare, ridiculous slander, and lies about me that
35:36
Speaker 14: most people could never withstand even for a single day.
35:40
Speaker 2: Marjorie Tayler Green there once a great Trump. Ally, she
35:44
Speaker 2: has a point, doesn't see. She's the one who's tried
35:46
Speaker 2: to hold the president to his own commitments, especially over
35:51
Speaker 2: the Epstein Files. In the end, he's done what she wanted,
35:54
Speaker 2: but been a massive fooling out in the meantime.
35:59
Speaker 13: Yes, I cannot underline this enough to your viewers in Australia.
36:02
Speaker 13: Marjorie Taylor Green may kind of not be a huge
36:06
Speaker 13: name in other parts of the world, but here in
36:08
Speaker 13: the United States she was such a rising star on
36:11
Speaker 13: the right.
36:12
Speaker 10: I mean, she was like the epitome of Maga next
36:16
Speaker 10: to Trump.
36:16
Speaker 13: Ultimately, this is all about Epstein and the Epstein files.
36:20
Speaker 10: Trump hasn't really seemed that.
36:22
Speaker 13: Interested in revealing anything about the Epstein case. He's actually
36:26
Speaker 13: scolded reporters for bringing it up over the past six
36:29
Speaker 13: to nine months. And I think she does have a point.
36:32
Speaker 13: And she's also talked about other issues like you know,
36:35
Speaker 13: deportations and other things that Trump promised. We've seen some
36:38
Speaker 13: of it being followed through it on, but it's really
36:41
Speaker 13: a shame when this stuff happens Chris, because the media
36:44
Speaker 13: here loves it. They love pouncing on any seeming division
36:47
Speaker 13: in the Republican Party and trying to make it seem
36:50
Speaker 13: really fractured.
36:51
Speaker 10: So I hate to see her leaving politics.
36:53
Speaker 13: But hopefully Marjorie Taylor Green will do something great and
36:56
Speaker 13: you know her next career choice.
36:58
Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump is on repentant about it, and he
37:01
Speaker 2: certainly hasn't apologized to her. Just briefly, do you think
37:04
Speaker 2: that the Marjorie Tyler Green criticisms could actually be doing
37:08
Speaker 2: more damage to Donald Trump than than all the taxis
37:12
Speaker 2: whether the relentlessly from the left.
37:15
Speaker 13: Yes, of course, because when the left attacks Trump, it
37:18
Speaker 13: makes Trump's.
37:18
Speaker 1: Base love them more.
37:20
Speaker 10: We love it when the left attacks Trump.
37:21
Speaker 13: But when someone like Marjorie Taylor Green attacks Trump and
37:24
Speaker 13: kind of makes our ears per couple, we go, hey,
37:26
Speaker 13: you know what.
37:27
Speaker 10: She's making some good points.
37:28
Speaker 13: But you need people like Marjorie Taylor Green to hold
37:32
Speaker 13: people on our side like Donald Trump, accountable to their promises.
37:35
Speaker 13: Politicians aren't supposed to be I mean, we're not supposed
37:38
Speaker 13: to be loyal to politicians. Politicians are supposed to be
37:40
Speaker 13: loyal to us and follow through on their promises.
37:42
Speaker 10: So you need people like this on the right.
37:44
Speaker 13: But it's unfortunate when all this stuff kind of bubbles
37:47
Speaker 13: to the surface because it's just fodder for the nasty
37:51
Speaker 13: media spot on.
37:53
Speaker 1: They are supposed to be loyal to us and can't
37:56
Speaker 1: think of too many who are.
37:58
Speaker 7: Thanks for joining us, Christen, thankye chras.
38:03
Speaker 2: She is all over it as usual and don't go
38:05
Speaker 2: away after the break, Tim Blair, we got some more
38:08
Speaker 2: Greta Tomberg antics.
38:10
Speaker 1: Come on your way.
38:15
Speaker 2: Let's catch up with the Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair, who
38:18
Speaker 2: joins us from Victoria.
38:19
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Tim. We've got to go
38:22
Speaker 1: to our old.
38:23
Speaker 7: Mate, Greta Tomberg.
38:24
Speaker 1: She can't stay out of the news. But yeah, if
38:27
Speaker 1: you had a look at her and what.
38:28
Speaker 2: Some of the other climate activists have done in Venice,
38:31
Speaker 2: they decided to make the Grand Canal green.
38:34
Speaker 1: Now she's been banned from Venice because of this stunt.
38:39
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it been better to put her in the prison there,
38:41
Speaker 2: or like take her through the bridge of size and
38:44
Speaker 2: lock her up so she could just look out at
38:46
Speaker 2: the green waters of the canal.
38:50
Speaker 1: It's just sad, isn't it, Chris.
38:51
Speaker 11: I mean, she was such a big deal A few
38:53
Speaker 11: years ago, and then it's sort of she got a
38:55
Speaker 11: bit derailed after not graduating from school, and she had
39:00
Speaker 11: that whole sort of career shift being an anti Israel activist,
39:05
Speaker 11: and now she's trying to just get that first act
39:07
Speaker 11: back again, you know, the whole climate thing. And it's
39:10
Speaker 11: a little like, you know, the high school athletic champion,
39:14
Speaker 11: the star football or a cricketer going back to school
39:18
Speaker 11: and trying to hang out there and trying to be all,
39:20
Speaker 11: you know, trying to relive the glory days, and it's
39:23
Speaker 11: just not good.
39:24
Speaker 1: Enough, spathetic.
39:26
Speaker 2: The thing is, according to all these climate catastrophes like
39:29
Speaker 2: her Venus should be about ten meters underwater by now,
39:32
Speaker 2: but you know, the sea levels inconveniently keep failing to rise,
39:38
Speaker 2: so they're having to say, look, it's all green, all
39:41
Speaker 2: the water's turned green.
39:43
Speaker 11: She's taking this whole green thing a bit literally. Let's
39:47
Speaker 11: hope that Chris Bowhen when he comes back from cop
39:49
Speaker 11: doesn't look like Kermit, because you might if Grenin gets
39:53
Speaker 11: to him with her handy activist die.
39:56
Speaker 7: With a bit of green makeup, he'd be a dead
39:58
Speaker 7: ringer for Kermit.
39:59
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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Speaker 7: Hey, I want to go to your column.
40:03
Speaker 2: Your latest column because it's much more carbon positive. And
40:07
Speaker 2: you've talked about the death of the great touring car
40:09
Speaker 2: driver Alan Moffatt, who passed away sadly on Saturday, and
40:14
Speaker 2: you've relived this moment among others.
40:16
Speaker 23: Have a look a few moments to find Australian motorsports
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Speaker 23: like this.
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Speaker 9: They come down in that magnificent view from the seven helicopter,
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Speaker 9: a scene we've never seen before.
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Speaker 23: Mount Panorama, nineteen seventy seven, Ford finishing one and two,
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Speaker 23: Alan Moffatt the victor.
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Speaker 1: A tremendous victory, professionalism and it's best.
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Speaker 21: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Those were the days, Hey Ford versus holding cars that
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Speaker 2: they had.
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Speaker 1: To wrestle to keep on the track.
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Speaker 2: But tell us about your thoughts of Alan Moffatt all
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Speaker 2: these years on.
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Speaker 11: Moffett was such an inspiration. I was a huge fan
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Speaker 11: of a kid because, unlike Peter Brock and Colin Bond,
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Speaker 11: Moffett was very clearly not a naturally gifted driver. So
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Speaker 11: he would work.
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Speaker 1: Hard at things.
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Speaker 11: He would pound around laps, doing testing, hundreds of laps
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Speaker 11: on racetracks where others would just pack up and to
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Speaker 11: show up on race day. But he knew that he
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Speaker 11: had to work harder to be as good as his rivals,
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Speaker 11: and he would find ways to get those huge, unwieldy
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Speaker 11: cars around those tracks faster than anybody else. Incredibly professional,
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Speaker 11: as I think it was the late Mike Raymond speaking
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Speaker 11: in that commentary, and just a guy from an era
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Speaker 11: when motor racing Bathurst and so on very much the
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Speaker 11: equals of top level football and cricket and rugby league.
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Speaker 11: And it was, yeah, very much a different era.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't. I wasn't even a petrol head. I'm still
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Speaker 1: not really much of a petrol head.
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Speaker 7: But I was absolutely on the Holden side. So Moffatt
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Speaker 7: was fored.
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Speaker 2: So Moffatt was that humorous bastard who'd win for the
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Speaker 2: other team.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 7: It was amazing how we used to be divided over that.
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Speaker 2: Just before we go, though, I've got to show you
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Speaker 2: a little clip of something a few of us noticed
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Speaker 2: on the ABC last night, their Media Watch program.
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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome to the media Watch of the year. Will
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Speaker 1: be back next year from all Cock and Bull stories.
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Speaker 2: Mate, it's November and they won't be back till February
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Speaker 2: for our taxes at work.
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Speaker 11: Also, was that not the most awkward pause in teleprompter history?
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Speaker 11: I think It's nice that the ABC give a homeless
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Speaker 11: looking guy that gig, But where does he go now
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Speaker 11: now that he's got the whole summer off? I mean,
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Speaker 11: do they think the media stops, Like does it all
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Speaker 11: just go invisible and like everyone shuts down? Because as
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Speaker 11: far as I'm aware, I'm working through the summer Chris,
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Speaker 11: and I think you're doing a fair bit of it
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Speaker 11: as well.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 7: I'm taking a big break.
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Speaker 2: I'm taking five weeks and I'm feeling guilty about that.
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Speaker 7: The ABC is going to do me by three or
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Speaker 7: four weeks at least.
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Speaker 1: Thanks.
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Speaker 10: Tim.
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Speaker 2: Will catch up with you again on Thursday. Tim Blair,
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Speaker 2: thee F and The Daily Telegraph, We're going to get
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Speaker 2: to a break. On the other side, ces O Brian
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Speaker 2: and Stephen Center Tempa, we'll talk about the various Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hanson controversies about the place. Let's catch up with Susi
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Speaker 2: O'Brien and Stephen Senna Tempo are great.
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Speaker 1: To catch up with you guys.
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Speaker 2: Again, Pauline Hansen, pick your controversy at the moment, all
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Speaker 2: over the place.
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Speaker 1: Step in this movie. The new full length cartoon.
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Speaker 2: Feature based on those Please Explain cartoons. It was going
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Speaker 2: to be shown a bit of a trailer and a
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Speaker 2: taste of it at Parliament House pretty much now.
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Speaker 1: As we speak.
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Speaker 7: But they were banned from Parliament House.
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Speaker 1: They're going to a cinema somewhere near where you are.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully you can get there straight after the show. Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Look, I just think this is absolute madness.
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Speaker 24: I think these please explain videos have been an absolute
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Speaker 24: revelation in Australian politics and probably are a big part
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Speaker 24: of why one nation.
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Speaker 1: Of polling as well as they are.
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Speaker 24: But I mean the nanny state attitude of whoever made
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Speaker 24: the decision here not to allow them to show the
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Speaker 24: trailer in Parliament House because somebody might be offended.
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Speaker 1: It's an invite only event.
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Speaker 24: I mean, I imagine if you thought you were going to
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Speaker 24: be offended by you probably weren't going to turn up
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Speaker 24: to this thing and pay the money that they were
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Speaker 24: charging to go along to it. I mean, this is
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Speaker 24: just Look, I understand now why Pauline pulls the stunts
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Speaker 24: that she does. While I don't agree with them and
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Speaker 24: I think that she's missing the mark with him, I
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Speaker 24: get the frustration that she has, particularly when various debates
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Speaker 24: that she wants to have on the floor of Parliament,
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Speaker 24: a block by both sides of politics, not just the
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Speaker 24: Labor Party but also the coalition, and then this kind
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Speaker 24: of thing happens. All it does drives I guess the
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Speaker 24: attitude that maybe Pauline Hanson is another option because the
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Speaker 24: major parties have lost the plot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit like the Trump fact.
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Speaker 2: She has the establishment working against her and that is
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Speaker 2: wind beneath her wings. Here's what she said today after
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Speaker 2: being banned from the Senate for a week because of
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Speaker 2: the Burker stunt.
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Speaker 3: I'm censured. Does it really worry me? No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 3: For seven days, not at all. I'll stand my ground
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Speaker 3: and what I believe in I will continue to do so,
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Speaker 3: and you know it will be the pitfull that will
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Speaker 3: judge me.
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Speaker 15: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating seven days she can't turn up in the Senate chamber, Susie.
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Speaker 1: Does that hurt her or help her? Have her colleagues overreacted?
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Speaker 25: Well, look, I mean, I'm sure it plays right into
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Speaker 25: the hands of her voters.
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Speaker 1: They will love this.
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Speaker 25: They will love her making a stand and anything that
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Speaker 25: sets her apart from everyone else is exactly what she's
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Speaker 25: trying to achieve. Here, does it serve those who voted
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Speaker 25: for her, who now won't get representation for a week.
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Speaker 25: Is she going to give that money back? Because she's
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Speaker 25: deliberately provoked this reaction.
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Speaker 1: She must have.
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Speaker 25: Known this is exactly what was going to happen. As
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Speaker 25: far as I'm concerned, it's a cheap and nasty political
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Speaker 25: stunt at the expense.
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Speaker 1: Of Muslim women.
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Speaker 25: And you know, it's all very well, have the debate
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Speaker 25: about face coverings on the flora, Parliament or whatever, you know,
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Speaker 25: move the bill to parody and to ridicule women like
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Speaker 25: that is an absolute disgrace.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's a stunt, and it was.
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Speaker 2: She took it after they rejected her attempt to debate it. Seriously,
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Speaker 2: but how can this be a slight against Muslim women
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Speaker 2: when what she's trying to do is stand up for
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Speaker 2: the rights of Muslim women. Don't tell me that anybody
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Speaker 2: chooses to wear a burker, and don't tell me that
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Speaker 2: anybody who wears a burker has any option but to
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Speaker 2: say they choose to wear a burker.
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Speaker 25: Look, I think you can have that debate, but you
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Speaker 25: don't need to do that, you know, dressed as a
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Speaker 25: Muslim woman, you know, with the face covered in the
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Speaker 25: floor of Parliament.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's kind of like blackface.
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Speaker 25: I think if you want to speak for Muslim women,
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Speaker 25: let them do the talking, include them in the debate.
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Speaker 25: You know, I'm pretty sure most Muslim women just felt
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Speaker 25: like parodied and ridiculed rather than included in a sensible
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Speaker 25: debate about their.
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Speaker 2: Human Yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand the point, But I'm
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Speaker 2: also mindful of the fact that no woman in a
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Speaker 2: burker can speak up on this.
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Speaker 1: How does a woman in aberk to speak up on this?
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Speaker 7: So there issues here to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Let me lighten it up a bit and show show.
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Speaker 2: Remind everybody of what Pauline Hansen told us about last
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Speaker 2: week when she told us how she was going to
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Speaker 2: woo Barnaby Joyce.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to cook him a good steak.
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Speaker 8: He likes a good steak.
47:27
Speaker 1: I might get the real big.
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Speaker 26: One, the Tomahawk, and make sure I do it, do
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Speaker 26: it well for him. I'm going to make him a pasta,
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Speaker 26: sell it a moulberry pie, and I'm going to have
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Speaker 26: my cream potatoes crean potatoes.
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Speaker 7: You're making me hungry.
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Speaker 1: You're making me hungry. Now I'm wooing him.
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Speaker 2: She's wooing him all right, Stephen, and it sounded very tempting,
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Speaker 2: but when we saw it in action, it wasn't.
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Speaker 7: At home, she slapped.
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Speaker 2: Her stake straight onto a sandwich toaster in her office.
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Speaker 1: What did you think?
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Speaker 24: Well, that was where I lost me, because I did
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Speaker 24: speak to Pauline about this last week and she said, look,
48:04
Speaker 24: I'm a very good cook, and I said, I know,
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Speaker 24: I've tried your homemade date life that you bring to
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Speaker 24: Parliament with you from time to time. But yeah, when
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Speaker 24: I saw it was being cooked on a sandwich toaster
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Speaker 24: in the office, I wasn't. I don't know that Barnaby,
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Speaker 24: somebody from the New England would have been overly impressed
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Speaker 24: with that.
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Speaker 7: Barnaby probably thought the steak was mistreated.
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Speaker 1: Here's what Pauline had to say.
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Speaker 3: I think he enjoyed dinner. I made him a damn
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Speaker 3: good dinner. But anyway, well, I told you I was
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Speaker 3: going to whine and dine him and hopefully, well we'll
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Speaker 3: see what happens. It's still a final decision has to
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Speaker 3: be up to Barnaby.
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Speaker 1: Susie.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go home and throw the barbecue out
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Speaker 2: on hard rubbish day and just cook mysteaks on the
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Speaker 2: sandwich toaster.
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Speaker 25: Now, I mean that's kind of thing my kids who.
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Speaker 3: Are like nineteen and twenty one.
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Speaker 7: That's kind of how they cook.
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Speaker 1: And I mean it's hilarious.
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Speaker 25: I mean they're lucky that the fire alarms didn't go off,
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Speaker 25: let's face it. But I think if if you look
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Speaker 25: at the photos, it shows just the normal kind of
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Speaker 25: little piece of steak. So there was no way I'm
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Speaker 25: going to get the lid down on a sandwich pressure tomahawk.
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Speaker 7: Just very quickly.
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Speaker 2: If Pauline needs any entertaining tips, We've got just the
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Speaker 2: person for you.
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Speaker 19: What I like to do when I have guess over
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Speaker 19: for the holidays, especially when you have a lot of
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Speaker 19: people and everyone has a different preference for breakfast, you
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Speaker 19: just create stations and.
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Speaker 10: They can help themselves. You don't want to make.
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Speaker 13: Pancakes, don't make pancakes, you just get the ones in
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Speaker 13: the freezer section.
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Speaker 7: That's our next aim.
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Speaker 2: We want to have a dinner where the hostesses are
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson and Megan Markle. We'll see how we go,
49:43
Speaker 2: but right out of time, Susie and Stephen, thanks so
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Speaker 2: much for joining us.
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Speaker 1: We will catch you next week. I'll be here tomorrow night,
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Speaker 1: at five o'clock, here's Peter