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Scott Peterson Retrial and The Daily Show’s Dulcé Sloan · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 5: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 3: into some hot topics. Scott Peterson, one of those murder
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  Speaker 3: stories that I have been obsessed with from the day
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  Speaker 3: it happened. It was very tragic. It happened over 21
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  Speaker 3: years ago, I believe. This guy, Scott Peterson, was married
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  Speaker 3: to a woman named Lacey who was pregnant and she
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  Speaker 3: was about a month or a few weeks away from
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  Speaker 3: giving birth to their son and she went missing and
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  Speaker 3: the day before Christmas, I believe. That same day, he
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  Speaker 3: said he was going to take his boat fishing. He
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  Speaker 3: said that she was going to walk the dog. He
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  Speaker 3: came home. The dog was there with the leash still attached.
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  Speaker 3: No Lacey 2 be found. They start frantically, you know,
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  Speaker 3: looking for her. It's all over the news. She's a
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  Speaker 3: very cute girl. And they lived in this cute house
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  Speaker 3: in Modesto, California. They were like just this young couple,
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  Speaker 3: barely 30, if that. First baby. Nobody knows where, you know,
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  Speaker 3: she is. And then we find out that he has
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  Speaker 3: a girlfriend named Amber Fry, who he went to her
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  Speaker 3: Christmas party with. And he told Amber Fry, I'm a widow.
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  Speaker 3: When they met, she thought he was a widow. And
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  Speaker 3: she had a young girl, Amber Fry, a young daughter.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, oh, I'm a widow. And so this
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  Speaker 3: will be the first Christmas that I'm celebrating without my wife.
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  Speaker 3: He was talking plans. He met her daughter. She thought
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  Speaker 3: she'd met the greatest guy. Well, somebody that was at
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  Speaker 3: that Christmas party is like, Amber, are you watching the news?
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, I'm not big on watching the news. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the guy that you took to the Christmas party, his
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  Speaker 3: wife is missing and she was nine months pregnant. So
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  Speaker 3: she goes to the police. They start recording her phone
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  Speaker 3: calls with him while he is at a service where
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  Speaker 3: everybody has candles praying for her safe return. He goes
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  Speaker 3: off and is like, oh, I'm in Paris for work
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  Speaker 3: and the fireworks are going off at the Eiffel Tower
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  Speaker 3: because it's New Year's already here. He's still playing along.
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  Speaker 3: They eventually arrest him and they catch when they do
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  Speaker 3: finally arrest him. He has dyed blonde hair and he
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  Speaker 3: had several thousand dollars in his car and he was
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  Speaker 3: driving to the border. So they thought that looked very suspicious. Many,
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  Speaker 3: many months later. Sadly, her body and the body of
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  Speaker 3: the baby gets found on shore, which would have gone with,
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  Speaker 3: did he dump the body that day? So everyone, the
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  Speaker 3: prosecution said, I think they got in a fight or
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  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, he killed her the night before and
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  Speaker 3: put her in a boat the next day and dumped
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  Speaker 3: her in the ocean, came back with a boat and
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  Speaker 3: then pretended that she'd gone on this walk. Now his
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  Speaker 3: defense was people had seen a pregnant girl walking and
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  Speaker 3: so she definitely was on the walk. Other accounts were like, no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she ever went on the walk. He
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  Speaker 3: gets convicted. He's been on death row for 20 years.
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  Speaker 3: His sister-in-law, so his brother's wife, she has been working
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  Speaker 3: on his defense saying that there were leads that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't follow. There was a robbery right across the street.
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  Speaker 3: And so their theory is That when she went to
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  Speaker 3: take the dog for a walk, she and she was
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a feisty stand up for herself type
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  Speaker 3: of person, even though she was petite, either saw that
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  Speaker 3: robbery happening or was like, hey, what are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 3: And they, in fact, took her and they're the people
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  Speaker 3: who killed her. And he just happened to be having
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  Speaker 3: an affair. And then he just happened to not be
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  Speaker 3: that sad when his wife went missing. He was like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: this is amazing luck. Because I wasn't into her anyway,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm actually not that sad about it. But, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I guess it wouldn't be terrible if she came back,
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  Speaker 3: but it's kind of great that she didn't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But there were a lot of interesting things. I've studied
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  Speaker 3: this case. I've watched a lot on it. There are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things that didn't add up. So the
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  Speaker 3: Innocence Project has taken this case. And you know, the
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  Speaker 3: general public, at least the people in the comments are
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  Speaker 3: not thrilled about it. They're like bringing up the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he had a girlfriend, bringing up all these different things.
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  Speaker 3: I remember one of the things is that he, the
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  Speaker 3: day she went missing the next day, he got porn
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  Speaker 3: on his cable. He never had it on before. And
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  Speaker 3: he was like, well, now that she's gone, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what if she came back the next day? It was
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  Speaker 3: something that she didn't want. There were all these things
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  Speaker 3: that looked very suspicious. There was a, a time he
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  Speaker 3: acted strange at Disneyland. I remember somebody writing me in
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  Speaker 3: when I was covering it a couple years ago who
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  Speaker 3: said that her husband worked in the same business and
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  Speaker 3: met him just about a month prior at like a conference.
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  Speaker 3: And he was very flirty. He was getting numbers. And
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  Speaker 3: this guy, this woman, Juicy Scooper's husband, he thought he
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  Speaker 3: was single the whole time. And then lo and behold,
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  Speaker 3: they're sitting at dinner one night and they see that
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  Speaker 3: this guy is on the news and his wife is missing.
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  Speaker 3: He's like that guy had a wife. He was very like,
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  Speaker 3: he was collecting numbers. He was. So there is so
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  Speaker 3: much about it. Why I am so interested, but we'll see,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see what real evidence they have. There were also
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  Speaker 3: pregnant women in the town that had gone missing. Some
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  Speaker 3: pregnant women of color that just did not get the
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  Speaker 3: press that Lacey got, um, Their particular house looked like
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  Speaker 3: it was in a nice, cute, little, clean neighborhood, but
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  Speaker 3: there was a lot of crime surrounding the area. People
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  Speaker 3: thought there might have been a satanic thing that happened
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  Speaker 3: in kidnapping these women. So did he just have the
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  Speaker 3: worst luck? Did they just happen to have thrown the
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  Speaker 3: body in the ocean? It's going to be a really
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  Speaker 3: juicy situation to talk about, but he has been behind
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  Speaker 3: bars for over 20 years. Also, weird crime that just
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  Speaker 3: came up. The woman who was in charge of the show, Cheer,
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  Speaker 3: actual Cheer show on Netflix, this junior college where everybody
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  Speaker 3: does a cheerleading named Monica. She also went on to
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  Speaker 3: be on Dancing with the Stars. One of the main
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  Speaker 3: people that was beloved on the show for a couple
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  Speaker 3: seasons named Jerry Harris. He was arrested for sexual assault
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  Speaker 3: of a young boy and corresponding with young boys he's
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  Speaker 3: doing like 13 years in prison he met some boy
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  Speaker 3: or corresponded on him it was a that was like
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  Speaker 3: a cheer situation so he was a total predator now
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  Speaker 3: this woman's son has now been arrested for possession of
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  Speaker 3: child porn so they said the videos are children under
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  Speaker 3: 10 engaging in sexual acts he is in possession of
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  Speaker 3: them he has been let out on bail um But very,
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  Speaker 3: very weird, the connection between all of this and the
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  Speaker 3: show Cheer. Shea Diaz is no longer coming back to
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  Speaker 3: And Just Like That. She is the non-binary stand-up comedian
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  Speaker 3: slash podcaster slash failed sitcom star. She believes it's because
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  Speaker 3: of her political views regarding Palestine and They're saying, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's just because the show, because of the writer's strike,
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  Speaker 3: it's been gone for so long. It won't even be
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  Speaker 3: back till 2025. And her character, Che Diaz, who was
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  Speaker 3: romantically involved with Miranda, the character Miranda, they've broken up.
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  Speaker 3: There's really no, you know, there's no reason to keep
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  Speaker 3: her around. However, in the last season, even after they
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  Speaker 3: broke up, Carrie was still friends with Che. She was
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  Speaker 3: still inviting Che to events. She was still acting like
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  Speaker 3: she and Che were, best friends that they had had this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, amazing podcast that also failed. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: she had to go back and like work at a
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  Speaker 3: vet and live in her mother's grand, live in her
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  Speaker 3: grandparents' house or anything.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: She's not coming back. Um, I think I'm okay with it.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's going to be such a long break
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  Speaker 3: that I'm ready for them to do new and fresh stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure Carrie will have a new date every week
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  Speaker 3: and it will be, it hopefully will be back more
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  Speaker 3: to the Sex and the City vibe so I think
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  Speaker 3: it was just kind of like sometimes with these long
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  Speaker 3: breaks I think a lot of people got the studios
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  Speaker 3: were happy to get rid of shows and they're like
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  Speaker 3: well you know it's been so long sometimes I think
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  Speaker 3: that's why the writers strike lasted so long as they
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  Speaker 3: were like these contracts will expire based on time or
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  Speaker 3: whatever get rid of shows get rid of characters they
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  Speaker 3: weren't into anymore and there you go meanwhile Mary from
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  Speaker 3: Sister Wives has a new bow yes The original sister wife,
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  Speaker 3: she's dating someone as well. And she announced it on
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  Speaker 3: her Instagram. Well, the son went and did an interview
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  Speaker 3: with this, one of this guy's ex-wives. He's been married
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  Speaker 3: four times. And in that interview, this ex-wife, an ex-girlfriend,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of people they interviewed are, allegedly saying that
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  Speaker 3: he was always into the sister wives and he was
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  Speaker 3: into reality stars all the time. And one story that
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  Speaker 3: was kind of funny is this person said, well, we
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  Speaker 3: were in Orange County and he wanted to go to
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  Speaker 3: Cota da Casa. And he was, you know, housewife hunting.
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  Speaker 3: He was looking for, he wanted to find Tamara. He
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  Speaker 3: wanted to go and see if he could date a
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  Speaker 3: housewife or just meet them or something. So they're worried.
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  Speaker 3: There's a consensus that's worried about Mary dating this guy
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  Speaker 3: who's been married four times and he's the only after
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  Speaker 3: being only after her because she's on the show. This
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  Speaker 3: is what I say. Oh my God, let Mary have
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  Speaker 3: a boyfriend. At least he's real. You don't remember that
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  Speaker 3: she was catfished by someone that she thought was a
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  Speaker 3: man who was actually a woman that she never met,
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  Speaker 3: that didn't exist. At least this guy is real. Of
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  Speaker 3: course he's been married four times. And of course he's
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  Speaker 3: excited that she's on Sister Wives. It's her job. She's famous.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really think that's such a negative thing that
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  Speaker 3: someone likes what you do and they're like down to
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  Speaker 3: be on TV. She better hope that whoever she's dating
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  Speaker 3: is down to be on TV and have some fun. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she's not a billionaire. She shouldn't marry him.
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  Speaker 3: She shouldn't give him any money. But let him take
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  Speaker 3: her out, love-bomber, have some fun with her, let her
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  Speaker 3: hang out with someone other than her best friend. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he can help with, you know, making little quiches at
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  Speaker 3: the bed and breakfast. I don't know. But I'm excited.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited. to see it and see if then now
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  Speaker 3: that she's got a bow, if they start hanging out
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  Speaker 3: with Christine or anyone else and poor Janelle's got to
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  Speaker 3: find somebody soon, but there, there you go with that. Um,
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  Speaker 3: the last thing I want to talk about before our
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  Speaker 3: interview is Anne Marie, who is one of the least
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  Speaker 3: likable new characters I've ever seen on a real housewives
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  Speaker 3: of Beverly Hills. And part of it is because she
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  Speaker 3: came forward saying, I'm in an, an, a nurse who
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  Speaker 3: does anesthesiology. Crystal said, no, when I first met you,
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  Speaker 3: you said you were an anesthesiologist. She said, no, I
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  Speaker 3: never said that. But with her medical knowledge, she challenged
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  Speaker 3: Sutton when Sutton said, the reason I don't eat much
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  Speaker 3: is that I have a small esophagus. Annemarie You see
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  Speaker 3: her saying it numerous, numerous times in numerous different settings.
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  Speaker 3: I don't believe it to be true. That doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the medical profession. I think she's lying. I
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  Speaker 3: think she has an eating disorder. And Sutton is like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Am I on a doctor's appointment right now?
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  Speaker 3: Who is this woman? And they're like, well, Sutton, you
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  Speaker 3: invited her to Barcelona, so she's coming on the trip
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  Speaker 3: with us. I mean, if this was real life, like
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  Speaker 3: you'd ever invite someone that just basically called you a
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  Speaker 3: liar and that you had an eating disorder over and
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  Speaker 3: over and over again. And also is not really vibing
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  Speaker 3: with anybody. Supposedly, she was Kyle's friend because they lived
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  Speaker 3: down the street from each other in Encino. Obviously, they
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  Speaker 3: met through casting. And anyway, the American Society of Anesthesiologists
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  Speaker 3: have made a statement saying this is the difference between
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  Speaker 3: a nurse of anesthesiology and an anesthesiologist. And she was
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  Speaker 3: very upset that they posted that. She's like, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like this is defamatory towards me. And then here she
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  Speaker 3: is here. And then she also went on to say, look,
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  Speaker 3: this esophagus storyline is boring. I don't like watching it
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  Speaker 3: back either. I wouldn't like my performance in this either.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. However, she says that storyline was unauthentically fake.
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  Speaker 3: dragged on for too long and I have been dragged
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  Speaker 3: through the mud in the process. I want to highlight
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  Speaker 3: the real in reality TV. Well, in my opinion, what
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  Speaker 3: she's trying to say is the producers, knowing that I
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  Speaker 3: am a nurse, either put it in my head and
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  Speaker 3: maybe question it or maybe the first time she questioned it,
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  Speaker 3: they were like, bring it up again. Now bring it
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  Speaker 3: up again. Make sure when you talk to Kyle, you
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  Speaker 3: bring it up. Make sure at Kyle's event, you sit
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  Speaker 3: down and you bring it up to Crystal. Remember, Crystal
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  Speaker 3: said at one time she wanted to go to medical school.
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  Speaker 3: So you should bring up that she's. So now that
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  Speaker 3: she is getting so much hate from the fans and
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  Speaker 3: she thought it was going to be so fun to
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  Speaker 3: be on The Real Housewives. And here when she goes
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  Speaker 3: back to being a nurse, the nurses are going to
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  Speaker 3: hate her. So it's already screwed up her day job
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  Speaker 3: real life. Most likely she won't be asked back. Now
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  Speaker 3: she's like, OK, now I want people to put two
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  Speaker 3: and two together. Hopefully Heather McDowell of Juicy Scoop will
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  Speaker 3: do it. They made me do this. They made me
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  Speaker 3: talk about it much longer than even I was interested
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  Speaker 3: in talking about it. And it is a pretty dumb,
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  Speaker 3: boring storyline. But it's really all we got besides Kyle
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  Speaker 3: and Morgan. And I don't know how my pretty lady
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  Speaker 3: is going to do in Barcelona without me. We're just
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  Speaker 3: attached up the hip. We are having so much fun together.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing Amazon Lives and whatnot. Anyway, you guys, remember,
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  Speaker 3: now for my interview with the very funny Dulce Sloan.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a first
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  Speaker 6: is a, um, it's a life that no one should
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  Speaker 6: have to live. This isn't a, this isn't a woman's
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: issue being with a broke dick. No, this isn't a
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: woman's issue. This is an issue for anyone who sleeps
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: with men. The hardest part about it is that broke
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: dick is amazing. And that's why it's so hard to
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: get away from because the devil is truly a liar.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: So if you're someone who is trying to do better
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: for yourself is doing well, you know, maybe you're, living
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: by yourself in Hollywood, out here being a unicorn, okay,
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: having the means to not have a roommate. That broke
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: man's gonna make sure that he's in your house eating
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: all your meats and cheeses on a regular basis. You
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: have to get him out of there. I know it's hard.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: The dick is amazing, but he knows that there's nothing
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: else on his mind. This is what he does all
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: the time.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And do you feel that the dick is still amazing
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: because they knew they were good at that so they
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: never had to sharpen any other skills in their life
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: besides their lovemaking? Why did the two and two go
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: hand in hand in your opinion?
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: I think it's a skill that develops because you're not
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: at work.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you have a lot more time. You're not
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: gone for 10 to 12 hours a day.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: No, you're just out here sitting in someone's house, playing
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: video games, eating cereal at 3 p.m. You have the
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: time to really perfect. You didn't do anything all day.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: So all you have time. So when I get home.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: You're not tired.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: You're not exhausted. What did you do? What did you do?
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: You thought about doing laundry. You didn't do it, but
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: you thought about it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: So this man did nothing all day. He has nothing
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: but energy. So he better be dropping it off when
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: I get home because I'm probably going to have to
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: feed him.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: So they have nothing.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: It's a skill that develops because you're like, hey, listen,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not contributing to society. I'm not contributing to anything
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: in this home. So I might as well be dropping
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: it off.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Now, for somebody that wants to leave that in 2023,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: what are some of the lies that maybe you tell
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: yourself to convince yourself that this is going to get
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: better or that you should stay with this person? Or
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: what is the inner dialogue that you have when you
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: find yourself putting together sandwiches for incredible dick that doesn't work?
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: You're telling yourself things like, oh, he did send out
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: resumes today.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: He was looking for a job. But also, it's like, hey,
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: this is... I'm a modern woman. It doesn't matter if
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: he doesn't work.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: That's not true.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: He's an adult that lives in your house.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Also, do not let that man borrow your car. He's
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: not looking for a job. He's at another woman's house.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Or another human's house.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know what he does all day.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: He's got things to do. He's got.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Cell phone bill to beg somebody to pay for it. So, yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: you have to, you know, someone's paying.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: A cell phone bill. Someone's paying for something.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: He's got to text everybody back. He's got to eat today.
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: He's got to sleep indoors. So he has to make
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: sure that the phone stays on and somebody's connected to Wi-Fi.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: So it's hard because you have to tell yourself, like, yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: it doesn't, you know, I'm a modern woman.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: You know, it doesn't matter. It matters.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Gloria Steinem did not march. That woman did not burn bras.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: She did not work as hard as she did for
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: you to pay for dinner.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: She didn't. Not the woman. She didn't.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: It's the right to choose. You can be a stay-at-home mom.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: You can be a career woman. That woman did not march.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: All those women did not march for you to pay
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: for Southwest Egg Rolls.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Have you seen some of this kind of movement or
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: talking on the internet about how people think that feminism
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: did kind of trick us into... feeling like we all
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: should be working and having a career while still being mothers. Like,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: like they're kind of, they kind of say like the,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: their theory is this, that the government and the feminism
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: movement kind of tricked women into like, you should have
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: your own career so that they could cook. So they
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: could collect taxes from another half of the world who
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: really wasn't working before. Because if you look at like
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the way the world was like 40 years ago, People
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: could live a decent life on one income, the man's income.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: People live a decent life because inflation wasn't crazy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: People lived a decent life because the standard of living,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: because what you earned.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Was closer to what the standard of living was.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: The problem is we have.
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: States where the minimum wage is not even $ 10, but
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: to have an apartment by yourself, you need to make
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: $ 25 an hour.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: So because there's such a disparagement between how much money
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: people make and what the cost of living is, no
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: matter how many people are working, your kids need to work.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: Everybody needs to have a job if that's what the
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: standard of living is. I think what they did with
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: feminism is that men flipped feminism against us. As in,
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: one thing we always have to remember, poor women always worked.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: Women have always worked. So you had to be in
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: a certain tax bracket to be a woman who did
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: not work.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Or be of a certain culture where you were a
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: woman who wasn't allowed to work. And so the whole
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: point was the right to choose whether or not you worked.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: It wasn't so all of us need to be in
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: the workforce. It was as a woman, I should be
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: able to go. I do want to stay at home
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: and take care of my children because my husband makes
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: enough money or my wife makes enough money. My partner
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: makes enough money. It was never all you ladies go
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: to work because at a certain point in our society,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: a hundred years ago, if you got married, you weren't
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: allowed to work.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: It's like, why are you working? Your husband has a job.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: What are you talking about?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Get out of here. Mrs. Whoever get out.
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: And so, cause we have to remember women couldn't have
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: credit cards or bank accounts up until like the late sixties,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: early seventies. So it was never set up for us
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: to do this.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: So the whole pink tax and putting extra like feminine
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: items and all that other stuff.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: It's just, it's a way to punish us for going
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to work. That's what that is.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. It's like, how dare she work? And it's like,
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: How dare you not think that me having a tampon
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: is a human right? What are we talking about? So
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: if you look at how baby formula started getting pushed,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: there's a whole generation of people that think that baby
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: formula is better than breast milk. But for all of
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: human history, we breastfed. Other women would breastfeed other women's children,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: wet nurses. And now all of a sudden breastfeeding is disgusting.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: What are we talking about?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: But you had to convince us of this because it's like, okay,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: now those women workers are going through the workforce. Now
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: we have to tell everybody that breast milk is not good.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: And this flour we done chopped up and put in
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: a can is better than that. Now, were there women
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: that needed formula? Absolutely, because some women didn't produce milk.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: But the idea that we did it wrong, I think,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: is another way to make women think that they don't
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: know what they're doing.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I think that it was used against us. It was
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: just like, well, y'all want to work?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Fine. You went to work.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Now you're going to have to pay more taxes. Because
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: if you look at, like, when did you get to
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: the point in your life where you're just like, I'm
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: going to buy men's razors.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: This is stupid. It's not a different thing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Nothing new was happening with the right. You just made
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: the plastic paint.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I remember my, my stepdaughter and this is like six
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: years ago when she was in high school, she had
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: like a cute little short haircut and she's, she is
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the one that like pointed it out. She's like, why
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: are the boys hairs cuts more than mine? Cause I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: have two sons and I go, I guess cause it's,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: you know, styling for a, a woman. And she's like,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: but my hair is short too. Yeah. Why should, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh my God, I never thought of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: it like that. I just, we just accepted like, yeah, okay. Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: The dry cleaning, the blouse is more expensive than a
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: man's shirt or whatever.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: And we don't even know what dry cleaning is.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I know. I don't know how dry cleaning works.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: It's just chemicals. It's just chemicals.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Your shirt's just dirty. Your shirt's just covered with chemicals
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: and it's dirty.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Um, Yeah, that is so. And then, yeah. And then
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: I think we can also be our own worst enemy
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: as far as women, because now in this world where
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: everyone has an opinion, you post something and you might get,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you know, 90% of the comments are for you. But
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: if the 10% of the comments are women questioning your
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: motherhood or how you're doing something, those are the things
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: we unfortunately latch on to. And the same thing then
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: went for breastfeeding. Like my kids are 18 and 20
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: and I chose not to breastfeed because I had trouble
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: breastfeeding for the first. And so by the second one,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, told the nurses, yeah, I'm not. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: they were cool. But like, I remember like. being out there. Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And I, and almost like wanting to fake it. Like
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I had a joke in my standup where I would
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: fake that I was breastfeeding, but I really had a
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: bottle under there, like at a restaurant, just so that
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: like people wouldn't be judging or wondering or coming, you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: like my friend's mom came, my mom, sorry, my mom's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: friend came up to me like at a grocery store
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: and she's like, congrats on the baby. I heard the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: breastfeeding didn't work out. I'm like, mom, why are you
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: telling people? Like it was, so there was a lot
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: of judgment there. And I really think The ultimate feminism
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: is like doing what the fuck you want as a mom,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: as the person who's raising, if you're raising kids, deciding
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: what's best for you and whether that's staying at home
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: and having an OnlyFans or, you know, whatever. I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that's where we have, but we, it's good that we're
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: like aware of it and people are, people are pointing
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: out or you're discovering it on your own, you know?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And sharing it with people.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: I think the best feminism is telling somebody to mind
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: their own fucking business.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Leave me alone. What do you need? Why are
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: you so concerned about what my titties are doing? Go away.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Why are you pressed about this? You're worried about my
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: boob and my kid's mouth?
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: You sound weird.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Just tell somebody, this is weird.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: This is weird.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: And the same thing goes for when people would be
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: really critical of someone going, over two years of breastfeeding.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, the kids not gonna want your boob
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: when they're 10. And if it goes until they're four, again,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that's that family's issue. Like it's not what I would want.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: It's not what would work for me, but like there's
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: cultures that go much longer and like there's cultures that
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: carry the child around them and, And, you know, do
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: the baby wearing and all that. And then there's cultures
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in LA where people do dog wearing. I mean, they
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: wear their dog like a baby.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: And if that's what's working for them and their puppy,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and that's what makes them happy, and that's the bonding.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: You can put a dog and a baby in a stroller.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: But it's like, now there's like, I guess it's like
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: in Nordic countries, the Snow Whites.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Yes. Just set a baby outside.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Denmark, they say they leave the babies in the strollers
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: outside to sleep. They say they sleep better outside. Nobody
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: takes them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: And you have to understand, that's a wild, like, do
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: you have to understand that as Americans, we're like, nobody
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: takes them?
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: What a wild thing to think.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: What a wild thing to have to think where somebody's like, damn,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: you left a kid outside and nobody took it?
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: What an awful thing for us to be, like, happy
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: for them. I know. They can leave a kid outside
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: and nobody takes it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: That's amazing.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Why can't we leave our children outside and nobody takes them?
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: My mother grew up in Miami. I grew up in
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Miami and Atlanta. My mother grew up in Miami. And
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: she said at one point when she was a kid,
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: they couldn't play outside because somebody, a man would literally
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: snatch you out of the front yard.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: So they couldn't play outside in the front yard because
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: a man would stop his car and snatch you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: But at that same time, that we were taught that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: because I'm of the Gen X generation, taught not to
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: be careful when you're outside. We were also taught to
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: get ourselves home and be a latchkey kid. Yes. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: just lock the door behind us.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Which I also have no problem with.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And if the phone rings.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Don't answer it.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not supposed to answer it. You're supposed to
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: act like your mom was there. I mean, the whole thing.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And so now people are like really sort of discovering
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: why we are the way we are, this generation, like nervous, paranoid.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: And the way we, you know, raised our Gen Z
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: kids is very reflective. And they're like, oh my God, Mom,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: why are you like that? And then I'm like, because.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: We were in, it's like we were the last generation
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: that was in danger.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Now, how old are you?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I turned 40 last year.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were much younger. You look young.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: You look young. But you're technically millennial. You're millennial. Technically, yeah. Yes, yes.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: So I was a latchkey kid, but I also started
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: babysitting when I was nine, which I found out was illegal.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I did not know that you could not babysit a
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: child while you were a single digit.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Who knew?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I tried babysitting when I was 12.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: So, so when I saw a little bit about how
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you said you, you looked a lot older when you
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: were nine. Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I look like a mother.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I describe that. Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: I have a joke where I say, um, I look
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: like a mother of three since I was 15. Cause
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: I had like, when I was nine years old, I
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: had like C cup boobs and I was like five, one.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: And my mom used to dress me in suits.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Like, like a woman's business suit. Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Because I look like a realtor.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: What is going on?
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: All the times I look like a grown ass adult.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: If you look me in my face, Like, I do
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: a bit about how, like, the first time a man
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: ever hit on me, I was in a payless in Miami.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: And my mom and my aunt would do my hair
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: like an adult hairstyle. So every little girl in Miami,
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: every little black girl had an adult hairstyle. So I had, like, probably, like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: a French roll and some finger waves. So I was
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: never participating in P.E.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Because, like, we got to.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And I was like, do you understand that these finger
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: waves got to last me until Sunday, coach? I won't
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: be playing football in the Miami heat.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much. And so... It was crazy. Why
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: would we play touch football with finger waves? It just
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: sounds stupid.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: So.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: It's a Saturday morning. We're in as Payless. I'm wearing
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: a suit.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Why was she dressing you in a suit?
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Because children's clothes didn't fit.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: I had C-cup boobs.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: I was nine. But I was always built like a woman.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: So she kind of wanted to cover up the womanly curves? Instead,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: she made you a businesswoman?
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: I literally couldn't wear children's clothing. I was just in
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: her clothes. I was in her clothes because I was 5'1.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: The first time I had a shirt with a cartoon
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: character on it is when they started making adult clothes
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: with cartoon characters on them. I never wore children's clothing.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: So I would have regular stuff, like a t-shirt and
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: shorts or whatever. But on this particular finder, I was
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: wearing a suit. She'd buy me these little suits. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: I think I have a picture from when I was
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: a kid. I'm trying to find it. I'm wearing a suit.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: And so it was like a little houndstooth one, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: it's like the 90s style where it's like short sleeves
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: and shorts.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: And then I wore like a size 9 shoe. So
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I wasn't even in kid shoes. Right. So I wasn't
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: in kid shoes. I'm wearing a dog.
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: I'm just in this playlist looking like a young businesswoman
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: out here giving you Khadija James, right? It's very much
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: just Queen Latifah living single situation. And so we're in
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: this playlist and this man comes up to me and
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: he goes, and like my back is turning. I'm looking
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: at adult shoes because I wear a size nine. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: he goes, and I just hear this man go, so
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: what's your name? But when I turn around, I have
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: the face of a nine-year-old.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: So I turned around and I was like, I'm nine.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: And he was like, no, no, no, no. And he's like, ah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: And then my mother comes around the corner like, what
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: the fuck is happening? He goes, why does she look
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: like that? And then he ran out of a Miami Payless.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: That man didn't know he would have woke up to
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: be a child predator.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: That was a setup. That wasn't his fault. Where's Chris Hansen?
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Where's the cameras? That's not his fault.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: But that's when the first time a broke man hit
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: on me. The first time a broke man talked to
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: me was in that Payless. And I was like, if
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: you're in a Payless picking up women... You're not doing great. No.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: You're not even in a mall. We're in a strip mall.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: We're in the motel of malls. All the doors face out.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: The cars are right there.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: The getaway car.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: Listen, when I tell you that, man, why did you look?
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: He ran out of the pay list and I was like,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: what happened? She's like, don't worry about it. Because he
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: saw my face and was like, oh, fuck. Because when
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: I turned around, I was like, hi.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: He was like, uh-uh.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Because he went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: And my mom came around the corner like fucking pure thunder.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Sort of fuck him up.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: He was like, I didn't.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: No, no, no. He was very upset. When I say
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: this man ran out of the store. Ran out of
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: the store.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: We were talking before we started about the controversial Cat
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Williams interview.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: God bless that man. He gave us so much. What
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: does that have to be like?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: 15 million views. And what I wanted to get your
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: opinion on. on the whole situation. And I already talked
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: about on the show, what he revealed. He talked about
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: several other male black comedians that he is not a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: fan of, not a friend of. He felt like in
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: some ways they sabotaged him. He thinks they're phony. He
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: doesn't think they're real standups. He doesn't think they're real talent. One,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: he said, he could, he said one couldn't read. One's
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: not a real standup. They all have a light skin. Well,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: he's that looked the same.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Which is weird, weird face, light skin wise, which is
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: what a time.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: What did you take from that part?
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: What was that kind of a dig? He said that
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: he was a fan of Earthquake, but he did say
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: Earthquake was illiterate.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know the man.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: I can't speak on it. What I do think is,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: what has always been a conspiracy theory that I would
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: hear growing up, and I would hear the comics still,
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: is that to be a black man and be successful
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: in entertainment, you had to engage in some type of
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: homosexual activity.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: And I've always been.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Now, why do you think.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Could it be.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Could it be just that there's just jealousy.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And so it's like the same thing. I mean, I
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: remember going into a casting after I, my first job
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: was writing on Keenan Everway's late night talk show. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: it was, my wife was 27 and he had the
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: show for maybe like a year and a few months
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: into it. My agent's like, would you want to, you know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: try to write a packet for this show. And I'm like, yeah. And,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you know, back then I couldn't just look up YouTube
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and watch a bunch of clips. I had to stay
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: home for like five nights in a row, watch the show,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: and come up with like commercial parodies and monologue lines
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and stuff. And so after that show ended and I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: was out doing an audition, a white female casting agent goes,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: you were writing– for Keanu Reeves and I go yeah
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and she goes whose dick did you have to suck
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: to get that job I couldn't I was like I
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: could not believe I was like are you joking and
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: she's like oh yeah you know I'm like no she
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: wasn't oh my god I'm like no it was so
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: legit it was so it was the most professional rooms I've.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Ever been in because she couldn't understand why a white
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: woman would be writing on a black show so something
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: had to be Well, this has to be a favor because, one,
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: as much as that insults you and is disrespectful to you,
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: it is also disrespectful to Keenan Ivey-Waynes and his team.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Because that means that he cannot recognize what talent is,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: and he cannot recognize what a good joke writer is.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: And also, you can't be good enough of a joke
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: writer to work on a show— That is hosted by
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: a black man.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: So she's insulting you especially.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: But it's also it's she doesn't have the understanding enough
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: of comedy where she can't understand why a white woman
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: would work on a black show.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: But, you know, now that you've said that, it makes
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: me wonder if there was chatter about me, among other things.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: comics and stuff because I when I first started doing
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: stand up I grew up here in LA so I
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: get a couple I get you know an 8 o'clock
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: spot at the improv and I'd invite a shit ton
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of people because I could and all my friends came
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: and my parents friends came and they were so happy
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: they were so supportive of the other comics but then
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the mean male comics started spreading rumors that AI stole
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: jokes which wasn't true And then also I filled the room.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: She's a room filler.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: But you did.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: But who doesn't love that? You want to go to
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: an empty room?
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: I've never understood. You filled the room because you knew
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: the people in the city, right?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, here, come to, I mean, come
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: to the show. They're all laughing at you too.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: It's all, I've never understood why comics would get mad.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: So it's, I've seen it where it's like, you're not
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: upset with the person who's filling the room. Because there's
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: somebody in the room. And then, but nine times out
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: of ten, a person who's a room filler isn't a
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: good comic, but they're on the show because they're a
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: room filler. So the problem was you were a good
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: comic who also could fill the room. But they can't
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: see both sides of that. Either you're good and you
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: can't fill the room, or you fill the room and
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: you're not good.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: But since you were both, well, look at all these
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: people here. It's not like she, what do you mean
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: she has other friends? You mean she knows people that
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: aren't comics?
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: That's crazy. She's a room filler. She can't be good.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: So, it's just a way to be ugly to people.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: And I was talking to another comic, Shalewa Sharp, she's
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: an amazing comedian. And we were talking about, because it was,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: you know, we were talking to some younger fans. comics
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: and they're asking about us just our experiences as being
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: female comics and being women and comedy and all of
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: that and they're like well have you had any issues
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: of like you know guys being I'm like no guys
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: being what just being just making you uncomfortable or saying
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: like they'll say.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: If they're saying something that's rude, it's not sexual. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: just rude.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Just, you're just being an asshole. And so they're like,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: you people sliding in your DMs.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Like, no. So what do you mean?
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: I said, when you are a woman that most of
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: these men don't want to sleep with, they just let
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: you be a comic. And it's very interesting to see
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: how different women have to move.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Because there are like, and this guy was, he was
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: asking me to do this.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: And then, but what was interesting is when me too
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: started happening, all of these male comics got, very nervous
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: and every all of the men got very nervous and
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: they're like well I don't want you to think that
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I was like you've never been that way with me
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: or it's like it got because it like it it
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: sprung in one direction right and then all the guys
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: got super cautious and you're like okay calm down right
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: also it's like no one no one's checking for you
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: that was the thing that was most interesting it was
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: like the guys that were the worst most worried about
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: being in trouble I was like no one's.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: No one's thinking about you.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: So I'm glad you're thinking about this, but now you're
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: making everyone uncomfortable for this fear that you shouldn't even,
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: you're an open-miker. Why are you, like, I understand, like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: check your behavior, but also making all of us uncomfortable
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: because you're worried about something? Because now we're going in
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: the opposite direction, where it's just like, just be cognizant
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: of what you're doing and how you're talking to people
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: and how you're treating people.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Don't be at a show going, man, you can't even
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: say hi to these women anymore. You can't even hug them.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: And I was like, nobody wanted to hug you in
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: the first place. You're not even funny. Go home.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: You know who I don't mind giving me an inappropriate hug?
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Somebody who fucking killed.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Somebody who had a great set, hug me for
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: too long. I'm fine. You bomb every time. Why are
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: you worried about this? Go home.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I definitely feel like the only men I had issues
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: with It wasn't about hitting on me. It was about
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: being bitter and jealous and thinking that I didn't deserve
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: what I got, you know, and trying to take it
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: down a notch because I was female or halfway decent
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: looking or, you know, or that I was from LA
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and could, you know, invite my friends who showed up
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: and were delights. They were the best audience ever.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: So we gave them an audience to stop talking. It's very, one,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: I wish comics would be nicer to themselves. Two of
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: which comics would be nicer to each other.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I want to go to the story that I was
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: going to... Because I came across this on TikTok. Do
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you know him? Yon Books?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: He's from here?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: This took place in San Diego.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: But he's a comic from.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Maybe LA or maybe around here.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: But anyway, he was headlining a club in San Diego.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And I came across... He was headlining. He was headlining.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I came across first the white female... who was doing
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: a tell-all on TikTok, already had a few hundred thousand views.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: She's telling.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: What'd she tell?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: So she's like, I have been doing stand-up for eight years,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and I got asked to open for this comic. And
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I did, you know, the audience was loving it, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: they were loving me, and he wasn't even there for
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: a while, so I kept going on. And She goes,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: and I Googled him so that I could introduce him properly.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And then he got up there and he basically dissed
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: me and was like, I shouldn't be at this show.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, wait, what is this? So then I
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: go deeper into looking and I find his response and
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: he's the headliner. And he came with receipts. He had
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: video of her. Bombing. Finishing up. Finishing up. And she goes, okay,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: your headliner's in the house. So he's like, hey, it
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: was my show. I sold it out on a Saturday
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: night with my name on the ticket. Yes. And in
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: my understanding, they provided the opener and he said, sure, great.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's not from San Diego. You go to a club.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: You're like, sure, whoever.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: It's fine. It's great. Not me. I got to see
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: a video.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Well, now I do. But I've been in the position to.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: where I wanted to be easy breezy, and yeah, I
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: need an opener, this is how much time. This is
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: before I started to say, no, I gotta see who
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: they are, if their comedy works with mine. Now I
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: can be a little more selective. But maybe he wasn't.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was like, cool, I'm thrilled to be there.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Try to be nice.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Throw him up.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: So she gets up there, and it is a black crowd.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: They came to see him.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: He is black.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: He's apparently really funny. And she goes, OK, let's get
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: the energy up.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Not really.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: And they're still being really nice. The audience still like.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: And then she goes, so your headliner and he blew
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: up on the Internet, which I think is not a
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: cool thing to say. It makes it sound like you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: You're an Internet comic. Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: You're not.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Not.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure he has some type of special, I'm
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: sure he, you know, whatever.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: You could come up with something else. She's saying all
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: of the nicest things.
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: He's very popular, because it's like, if he's popular and
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: successful on the internet, he's getting a lot of views,
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: he's funny.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: So she's trying to be as nice as she can.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: But I don't think it was, I think he was
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: saying like, I don't think you specifically really looked up
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: what my vibe was, because it seemed a little lazy.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: So anyway, then he comes out, but then she says,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: are you guys.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I'm excited for this. Are you guys ready?
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Are you ready to get buck wild?
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Okay. So she's never met black people before.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: So then he comes out, and he's kind of making
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: fun of that. Like, you guys, okay. And I don't
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: think he was being overly dissing to her, but he
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: was kind of like, okay, you guys, we're ready to roll,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: and let's get going. And she took it as really offensive.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: He was like, I brought up, you know, I've had
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: female comics on the road with me. I... You know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I think you have to be respectful of the... I've
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: gone up after somebody that's bombed. It's really bad. I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: once went up after a guy that in my audience
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: in Aspen did a whole bit on why it's so
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: great to have sex with 40-year-old women because they're old
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: and they're grateful. And I'm like.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Grateful?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: First of all, do you know that at this point
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I'm well over 40 and my audience in Aspen is,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: guess what, some rich 40-year-olds?
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: What? So I'm like, if you're going to open for somebody. Yeah, exactly.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: So I had to follow that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: The disrespect.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: And when he also, introducing me, being like, this is
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: my really good friend. We just met backstage.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: That, that and, whoa, good friend and I remember, so
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: how early in your career were you touring clubs and
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: colleges all over the country? Because people will lie on
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: your credits and it's like, I want everybody to know
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: because like, You know, she's a good friend of mine.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: We've gone to clubs and colleges all over the country.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: I said, sir, I've never left the South. It was
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: like the beginning of my career. I have not crossed
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: the Mason-Nixon line telling jokes. And I've never performed at
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: a college.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: But they don't need to know that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: They don't need to know that I've never performed with
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: nobody at school.
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: So, yes, the whole... She's a great friend of mine.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: I was like, we're gonna keep... There was literally a comic.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: We weren't speaking to each other.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: At all.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: He pulled some fuck shit, and I am very good at...
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: at boundaries, which I just learned in therapy. Not speaking
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: to someone because they disrespected you is not me being
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: a bitch.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: It's a boundary.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: So leave me alone.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: And so I was not speaking to this gentleman because
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: he pulled some fuck shit. And he brought me up.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: She's a good friend of mine. And we had to hug.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: And then he gets off stage. And then afterwards it
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: was like, and after he comes back on stage, all right,
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: great set. Cause I had a great set and he's
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: a good host, but the audience does not need to know.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: then I will kick him in the traffic. They don't
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: even know that.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: So I came out and I did not diss the
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: 40-year-old joke. I just was like, let's shake it off.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Let me get your focus on me. Right. Let's get
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: the focus back on me. Let's have a great show.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: You're better than me.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: So in talking about this, I don't, I would say,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: You're better than me. I would say maybe don't share
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: that you're pissed with your opener because it depends.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: Now, mind you, you're better than me. If it's my crowd,
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: I would just come on stage and go, Grateful? And
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: that's all I would have said. I don't even have
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: to go on anything else. You heard what he said.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Grateful?
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: Where? In this economy? How dare you?
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: And then I would have moved on because sometimes you
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: can address the thing. Sorry, I'm slowly coughing on water.
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: You can address the thing without coming for somebody's neck. Now,
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: I think we're to the age now where we're just like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: instead of you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: I've had people try, like, there was a comic who
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: brought me up one time and said my name completely wrong.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: And so afterwards, so when I got up, I joked
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: about him saying my name wrong. And then after that,
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: he tried to, like, school me, quote, unquote, and how
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: I did wasn't right. And I said, you said my
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: name wrong, and I made a joke about it.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Get over it.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Who were you talking to? And in doing sometimes with that,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: you can be sort of self-deprecating. Like, way to make
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: me feel special. Thank you. I've sold out the place.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I remember... Leanne Morgan, I had her on the show
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: and she was so excited to do a show and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: it was like she sold out. It was like one
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: of the first times she sold out. They had a
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: guy open for her. And his intro was like kind
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: of dissing her. Sometimes I think with these guys, when
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: it's with a female, their egos are so fragile. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: I think sometimes as women, we recognize that and we're
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: too nice. And everyone talks about emasculating men. I think
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: there's women who emasculate men that don't deserve to be emasculated.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Like why are we like... Feeding their ego and being like, oh, yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: we sold out this show.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: When you know it's you. Right. But you're just like, oh,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I don't want this guy's, you know, ego to get
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: out of check because he's an insecure man and I
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: know it. And I can placate him a little.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: One, you know, he's in the city. You're never going
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: to see him again.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Two, you know, you can. I can tell you I've been.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: This is my 15th year doing stand up. It'll be
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: 15 years in May. there's only been one male comic
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: who I saw was trash.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: And actually ended up making something of himself. Okay.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: But that was because I saw him start doing the
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: work of becoming a better comic.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: First time I saw him, I was like, ugh. And
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: it didn't pay me any mind. Also, he was rude.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: There's only one time out of all the hundreds of
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: male comics that I've seen, or just comics in general,
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: that are just like, No. There's only been one time
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: that I was wrong. Every other time, you stayed in
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: your city and you opened for whoever and you didn't
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: go anywhere. Because you took more time to be disrespectful
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: to your headliner. Because in my mind, if you're disrespectful
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: to me, every other woman that comes in here you're
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: going to be disrespectful to. Every other black person that
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: comes in here you're going to be disrespectful to. The
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: issue that I had when I started, because when I
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: got Daily Show, that's when I could start doing clubs.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: Because we've all seen white male comics do late night
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: one time. And now all of a sudden they're on
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: the road. I had to book daily shows so I
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: could start doing clubs.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: I started doing clubs. And it's like after a while
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, I want to be able to. Because
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: I keep getting these shitty openers. And I was like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: who is this? Or y'all didn't even try. Or, well,
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: such and such couldn't make it. Y'all don't give a
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: shit that I'm here. But there's people in the audience.
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: So why are we acting like this? So I started going.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: So now I'm like, oh, I'm going to bring my
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: own person. And so, because I was bringing people out.
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: And the clubs were fighting me because they were worried
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: that I was going to bring another black woman and
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: the show was going to be very black. So I
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: started taking one of my friends who's a white dude
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: on the road with me.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, can I bring my.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: Because my manager was like, well, we're not sure. I said,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: tell him it's a white dude and I promise you
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: it won't be a problem. And 70% of the time
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: they didn't have an issue because I brought Joe Kelly
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: with me.
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: He's a great comedian. He's a very sweet man. He's beautiful.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: But I had less and less issues when I would
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: bring a man with me Then I was like, well,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: this is it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Well, we're not sure. What are you not sure about?
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: It's my audience.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: Why are you worried about the show being so black
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: if it's my audience?
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: Also, I have a diverse audience.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: I'm on a diverse show. I have a diverse audience. So,
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: because I remember there was a guy, I was doing
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: shows like the DC Improv. And I had an opener,
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: and he was eating dicks like he ordered them.
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: Like, just.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Bombing.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Not doing great. He had more merch than jokes.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: Had girls selling his merch, and I was like, I don't... Oh.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: I had the opener that talks about his merch. He
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: does his 20 minutes or 15 minutes, and then talks
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: about the merch for another 10.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, never again.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: No, so.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: That won't happen anymore, but I had those days. Yeah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: go on.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: So, we were doing, like.
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: I think five shows together, five or six. And he
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: does like, and not only that, he's not even speaking
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: to me when we're in the green room.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I know this. And all of
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: his jokes were like, well, ladies, you need to, Oh,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: what do.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: We need to do? What do we need to do?
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: Tell me, what do we.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Need to do?
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: You mediocre fucking man. Tell me, thank you. So what, what,
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: tell me more. What do I need to do?
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: So, I'm watching this very regular ass comic. So these
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: regular ass jokes and then not speak. And then they
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: almost act like he's too good to speak to me
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: in the green room. Like, sir, I'm the reason you're
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: making money this weekend. So the manager of the club
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: comes up to me and this comedian Eagle wit.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: I love Eagle wit. He's an amazing comic. He's so funny.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: I'd never met Eagle before. And so the manager was like, Hey, his,
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: you know, his kid Eagle wit. And we took only
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: just a couple of minutes. I'm like, I don't know
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: this kid.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know him. I don't know.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: But then I looked over and saw this man just talking.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: I didn't know he was telling jokes anymore. He was
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: just on stage just saying words. And I was like, well,
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: he can't be worse than him.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: He can't be.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: So I let Eagle go up and do like seven
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: minutes on the first show. And then Eagle got off
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: and I went to the manager and I said, Eagle's
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: featuring for me now.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Kick that guy off my show. And I took the
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: dude off the show.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Eagle in his seven minutes showed up and showed out.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: And I was like, because at one point I was like, Jesus,
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: please send me anybody to get this man off my show.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I know, because sometimes when they're bombing so bad, you're like,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: is the audience just going to get tired? Are they
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: going to leave? Like, this is just like, you're just like,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: oh my God, flash the light.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: Get him out of here.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't take it.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Because the weirdest part was, it's not that he was,
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: if he was bombing, bombing, it would have made more sense.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: What he was doing was just making everyone just kind
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: of uncomfortable.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Ugh, the worst.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: And so it was like, even the vibe. Right, because
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: men at a comedy show are there with a woman.
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: Because people are like, well, you're really pretty, why are
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: you single?
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I do stand-up. What do you mean?
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: You don't meet guys at shows that single men don't
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: come to comedy shows. Single men, I saw Bachelor Party
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: at a comedy show one time, years ago, and I
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: was like, whose wife wouldn't let you go to the
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: strip club?
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: And they were like, Bobby! And he's like, what? I'm
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: just being respectful. They're like, Bobby's wife wouldn't let us go!
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: And I was like, why did Bobby have to come?
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: He's the best man!
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: I was like, you could have just not invited him.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: You could have gone to a burlesque show. Your wife
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: doesn't know that's art, but there's still titties in it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: But yeah, so it's like, no, single men don't come
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: to comedy shows. It's a man in a relationship. So
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: if you get on stage and make this man's woman
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: uncomfortable with your stupid comedy of what women need to do,
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: now he's going to spend the next two days having
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: an answer for all the things that you.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: Told women they needed to do. You're messing his whole
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: night up. And hers.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: A couple of things. Just finishing on this guy, this
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: girl going on TikTok.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I did a tangent.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Going.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: No, I loved all of it. I just want to
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: say this girl, the opener or the feature going on
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: TikTok and talking smack. It's like not talking smack, telling
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: her story.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: She's right.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Tell her story. She got she's probably so excited that
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: she got all these, you know, views. But who is
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: going to want her now to open up for them?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: It's the same time when I see like a makeup
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: artist that's telling on a bad experience they had with,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: you know, a star or a diva. I'm like, well,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I'm never hiring you because how do I know that
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: you're not going to walk in? And maybe I just
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: got some really sad news. Maybe some deal fell through.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe I broke, you know, had a fight with my kid. Like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: so every moment, if I'm not 100% the biggest delight
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: that you can now go and do a TikTok about it.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I know I've met thousands of people that will say
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: I'm a delight, but is there one floating out there
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: that could fucking ruin my life?
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: This is what people are always so worried about cancel culture.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: This is what I think is interesting about cancel culture.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: We all took.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: All of these people, men and women, who were abusing
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: their power to get sexual favors from people Or not
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: even that, if people are abusing their power to get
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: sexual favors or whatever favors from people is wrong. But
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: I noticed that we were only looking to take down
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: certain people. You're not going to the manager of a
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: Hooters who's harassing those girls all day. You're not looking for,
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: I've worked plenty of jobs where a supervisor made me uncomfortable.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: You're not trying to find the night manager of Pet
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: Boys and he's harassing that girl in the back. You're
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: not trying to take him out. You're not trying to
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: get him fired. You're trying to get famous people, rich
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: people fired.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: So if the whole point is to make sure that
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: women and people of all backgrounds and whatever cannot be
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: harassed and terrorized in their workplace, then it needs to
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: be across the board. If you're going to take down
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: Harvey Weinstein, take down Harvey Weinstein. He's a horrible human being.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: But also.
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: Take down this man who's running an Arby's and terrorizing
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: these little girls who come in here to drop these
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: fries all damn night. It needs to be across the board.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: It can't just be rich, famous people. Yes, they have
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: a lot of power and influence, but also I've worked
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: places where this one man had power and influence over
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: 20 women answering phones. Or where I worked in a
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: car lot where my boss told me that if I
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: wanted to make more commission, I had to sleep with him.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: It's in my book, Hello Friends.
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: So like, you see what I'm saying? So it's like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: if we're going to do this, then it can't just
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: be rich people. It has to be everybody. Because then
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: it's going, oh, you only want to, I promise you,
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: Harvey Weinstein will never work again. But he has enough
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: money to where he's fine.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: Well, he's in prison.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: And he'll be fine. There's money on his books.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: There's money on his books. So he's going to be
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: all right.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: But the people that worked around him made enough money
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: to where they'll probably be fine. Everyone who's gotten canceled
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: and taken down, they had money.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is about it in Hollywood is...
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: there are all these people that knew that he was
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a rapist and everything and probably knew their friends' stories
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: or knew of it. But when the opportunity came to
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: be in the movie, they were just like, well, I
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: just won't go to the Peninsula Hotel and see it.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I will still do the movie and I will still
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: work with him and I will still take the Oscar
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: and I will still thank him. And then when it
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: all gets revealed, they've got the me too, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: black bow and talking about it. Like it's enough times up.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: And it's like, bitch, where were you?
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: You were just acting like la, la, la, la, la, la, la,
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: you know? And that's when it's so that's Hollywood for
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: you though.
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: I think, but that's, we, there's a, people like to
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: hold celebrities to a certain standard because we're, because, the
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: general public is responsible for their money.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Brad Pitt is rich because people want to go see
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: him in movies.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: All these people, we all are successful because people come
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: and take in our media, come to see our shows,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: come and buy our book, and all of these things.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: So they feel like that we owe them something, right?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: Because it's like, well, I contributed to your success, so you...
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: have to acknowledge me, which I understand.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: That is so true, yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: So that's why I was like, people can get upset
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: where it's like, well, that person didn't want to take
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: a picture with me.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: That person was crying.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: And so it's like, and so what has happened now
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: with social media is like, we've taken, when you were
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: growing up, I never knew what Mariah Carey was doing
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: on a regular basis when I was a kid.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: Nor did I want to fucking know. But now it's, oh,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: where her and her kids are learning a new dance
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: in front of their Christmas tree.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Right. Interesting.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: And so now, but now that's her job. Now she
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: has to dance in front of a Christmas tree. Now
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: she has to dance in front of a Christmas tree.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: When all the big stars had to sign up for Instagram,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, how pissed are they?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Girl!
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: When they were like, okay, I guess we're doing this now.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, they don't want to.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: They had it so easy. Mariah Carey used to sing
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: the highest note you'd ever heard. She was the queen
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: of Christmas. It's her and Jesus is who we know about.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Now she has to do a cookie recipe.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: And now she got to dance in front of a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Christmas tree with her children. Because you can't, Why do
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: you need smart crowd care? Listen, since the 90s, she
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: went to the tournament and told them all that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: And I kind of get annoyed, too, because I'm like, also, like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: some of them are coming on it and doing the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: same things that we're all doing. And I'm like, God,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: can we have one thing? Like, you're up here. Can
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: you let these influencers be here?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, they have to do it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: They have to do it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, they're being told they're inauthentic and not accessible and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: unrelatable and So then they have to hire a team
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: of social media person who's like, OK, you're going to
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: do like the Kim. Do you see the Kim Kardashian
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: bit where she you know how people go that one
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: trend that's going on? Like, hi, we're from Orange County.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Of course, we're going to go. So she did one
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: in her beautiful mansion and she's like, I'm Kim Kardashian.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Of course, I have all my magazine covers framed down
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: the hallway.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: She should.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: And all this. And then she, you know, and then
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: she goes, I'm Kim Kardashian. Of course I have a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: tanning bed and an infralight, whatever.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Or the red light thing. Of course, everyone's like, what
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: are you doing with the tanning bed? She's like, I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: have psoriasis. It helps with it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: Which is crazy. The one thing that a tanning bed
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: helps with.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: My dad had psoriasis. And he would go to the tanning.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: He would do the standing tanning. See?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: She didn't lie. She's not lying.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: Because we've all seen it. If you are Kardashian's, I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: remember there was an episode where she had a photo shoot.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: And her psoriasis was flaring up. And she was in tears.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: Because it was like, my arms are going to have
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: to be... It's a photo shoot.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: You're going to see my arms. You're going to see
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: my legs.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: What I think is interesting is as much people.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: I remember meeting someone that was like, I hate watching
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: that show. And I was like, let me tell you something.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: The ratings aren't different. If you hate watch something, it
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: doesn't become a half a point. It doesn't stop being
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: a rate. It doesn't stop being like, we got a view.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: So it's like, you don't have to hate watch. You
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: don't have to sit there in your... You don't have
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 6: to seethe for an hour because they bought a house
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: or whatever.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: I've never understood... The.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Hate watching of things. Because it's like, you could have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: done something else with your day. You could have used
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: that hour to do anything else. You could have watched
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: something you liked.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: But instead you would have said, I would be mad
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: at Kim Kardashian for what? That girl ain't think about you.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Okay. I want to get a little into your success.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about The Daily Show and how that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: came about. So once you... stopped wearing adult suits.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Then, and, and left the Payless store.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Where did you go? When did you start standup? Did
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: you go to college? Like what was a little bit your,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: your path?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: So I, um, so basically I started acting when I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: was a kid and then, so I went, acted all
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: through school and then I got a theater degree, graduated
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: from Brunel University in 2005. And then a friend of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: mine worked the door at a comedy club in Atlanta,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: and she let me in for free. And that was 2007,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: so I wasn't working on a play, because I still
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 6: did plays and stuff. So I played Bonita in Raisin
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: in the Sun. I used to work at Stone Mountain Park,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: and I did the VeggieTales show where I would teach
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: the children.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: So I did SummerSoc.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: I did multiple theater camps, children's theater camps.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: So what was your goal?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: The goal was to be an actor.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: And did you see movies, sitcom, and all of it?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh. Because I wanted to make a living as a performer.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: That was the goal. I couldn't do anything else. I
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: couldn't think of anything else I wanted to do.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: At one point, I did want to be a marine
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: biologist and work with dolphins, but they make you learn.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: So much math.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: And I was like, for what? Dolphins don't know fractions.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Why am I doing this? What are you talking about?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: You sound crazy. So I, so this is like 2007,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: so two years after I graduated from college, and Big
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: Kenny Johnson, who's a comic in Atlanta, I met him
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: and a couple other comics, you know, Yohanse Collins and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: Clayton English. And just from talking to them in conversation, like, yo,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: you should start doing stand-up. I'm like, I'm okay. And
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: one day Big Kenny pulled me to the side and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 6: he's like, listen, you're supposed to do this.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: I was like, ah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: Because I was afraid to do stand-up because I'd never
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: been on stage and said my own words and been myself.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: So did they say it because you just were a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: funny storyteller?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: He was like, he said, you know how to tell
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: a story. He said, you know where a punchline is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: in a story. He said, the fact that you know
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: how to tell a joke is already going to make
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: things a lot easier for you. He's like, also, you've
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: been acting your whole life, so you know how to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: stand on stage. You have stage presence. You know where
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: your light is. You just need the other parts of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: how to write a joke.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: What's the setup? What's the premise? What's all of these?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: You need the structure of a joke. And I was like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: thank you, but no.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: And so for two years, and then Big Kenny was
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: in this all-black improv group called Black Top Circus. And
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: so he would invite me to comedy shows he was
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: performing at. He'd have me and my mom come see
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: an improv. And then I was an improv troupe for
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: two years.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: And then.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: In 2009, I wasn't working because I got laid off again. Because,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: you know, we were in a recession. And I was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: on unemployment again.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Which is not welfare, by the way.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: And the number of people that don't know about unemployment,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: they pay into it every time they have a job.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: It's insane.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I remember one time, the first time I was like,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I got laid off my first job and I had
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: this boyfriend and I go, oh, well now I could
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: get unemployment. It was a, I was a buyer at
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Robinson's May and they like fired me or whatever. And
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: he's like, hmm, I don't know how I feel about that.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: I go, what do you mean?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, we, I paid for this.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we paid.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: The government set this up to if you lose your job,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: do no fault of your own.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: You're not destitute.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: So anyway, it's one of the lines on your paycheck.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: Medicare, Social Security, unemployment. I'm so tired of explaining to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: white people how America works.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: It's exhausting. Y'all been here y'all whole lives. What happened?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: What don't you get? Any who's.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Good, continue.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: Go on. I'm here to help.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: So I'm on the unemployment and Big Kenny's like, I'm
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: teaching a stand-up class.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, ah.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: And it cost 300 bucks. I said, that is basically
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: my whole unemployment check for a week.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: I can't do it.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: And he's like, you're supposed to be a comic. I'm
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: not going to charge you for the class.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is awesome.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: And so I go to start and I'm not sure
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: and I tell my mother about it and she said
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: she had a dream that the whole world was laughing
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: at me. But she didn't know what it meant. Because
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: she was like, why are they laughing at my baby?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: And so she's like, I know what's going on. You
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: were standing and people were laughing at you. And I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: was like, all right, he's going to let me take
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: the class for free. My mom had a dream.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: The universe is telling me.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: All right, Jesus, let me go take this class.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: And so it was interesting because I graduated from college
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: in May in 2005 and I graduated from the stand-up
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: class in May in 2009.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Not to make it about me, but I had the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: standup thing. I took a class too. And I had
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: a friend that, that threw down the class and said,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: you've got to take down my dryer. And my friend, she,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: believe me, I'll give her credit till the day we die.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: And she's like, this is what you should be doing.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: So I took the little class and I, you need
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: the class. To figure out how to get your stories
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: to be relatable to the rest of the world. And
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: so I love that there's that. So when people say, oh,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: you can't learn comedy, I go, no, you've got to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: have the it factor.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: But there are things that will help you get there.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: And there are classes. There are writing classes, basically.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: What I think is the number of times, I remember
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: I was at the Cellar one day. I was sitting
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: at the comics table. And I'm just minding my business,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: being a Christian, not paying attention to what's going on.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: And then I get roped into this conversation. Just standing there, again,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: sitting there, minding my business. And they're like, they're just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: talking about stand-up classes. And they're so stupid.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Isn't that right, Dolce? And I was like, I took
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: a stand-up class. He was like, what? I said, you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: probably should have asked me a question before you put
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: me in this conversation. He's like, you didn't.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I said, I did.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: I said, the reason I do stand-up is because.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: A comic told me i was a comic and put
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: me in a stand-up class i said if i hadn't
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: taken that class i wouldn't be a comic and he
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: was like yes like sometimes you gotta work but like
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: other times i'm like and everybody at the table was
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: like no you use her an example she's more successful
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: than you and she took a stand-up class.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: And everybody's path, especially now in today's world, can be
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: very different. You can really pop doing your funny stories
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: on a TikTok or whatever, but you should also try
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: to get on like in a Troop or an SNL
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: or something because you've got to collaborate with people. That's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: the one thing about these funny people that, you know,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: I find. And I'm like, There might be someone telling you, oh,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: you don't even need to be on SNL. You could
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: make more money doing Tick Tock or whatever. I go,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: but you've got to work with other people. You've got
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: to be in a room with other people and be collaborative.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, though. You've been on the road, and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: you've seen it. People, these... I'm not going to discount
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: that they are comics. I'm not going to do that.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: They are funny.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: But some of these online comedians who do sketches... Doing
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: sketches is not doing stand-up. This is a different skill set.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: I've taken a sketch writing class. I've taken a stand-up class.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: Sketch writing and doing stand-up is not the same thing.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: So there are people who are online comedians.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: Who do these sketches. I'm waiting for the day we
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: stop saying skits. Truly am.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: So they all do comedy skits. I'll fight you in
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: the street, ma'am. And so they do these online sketches.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: And then they get booked at comedy clubs.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: To do stand-up.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: No. Because they have this big following, yeah.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: What they should be doing is their sketches in the stand-up,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: in clubs.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 6: You have proven yourself to be very successful at doing
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: a sketch. Doing stand-up is different. And so, I have seen,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: I've seen online comics lose their following because, I can't
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: remember who it was, was it the Hodge twins or somebody?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: They were at Caroline's.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: And they were supposed to be doing stand-up and we
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: were just watching just one by one as their audience
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: was walking out of the room.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: And it's a shame.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: Because no one told them, hey, this is hard. In
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: the same way that writing sketches is difficult, we've all
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: tried to write a sketch.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: It's fucking hard.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: Success in one thing is not success in another.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: There are very different types of comics.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Right, it doesn't always translate.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: No, there are people who... Think about the number of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: dramatic actors who could never tell a joke.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: You can't put certain people in a comedy. There's also
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: comedic actors you can't put in a drama.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: So, okay, let's get back to you because I took
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: you off. I took you on a tangent.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: You took me on a tangent.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you have your successful first time at the graduation.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: I have a graduation and one of my college professors
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: came because he actually told me when I was in
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: college that I started doing stand-up and I was like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 6: that's cute, thank you so much, but no, no, no, no.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: And then he gave me a radio show. And so
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: I just started doing just stand-up around the city, but
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: I passed at one of the clubs in the city
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: within a year. Also, it was a huge scene. When
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: I was starting out, there was not a show.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: On a Tuesday.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: And so I remember like, okay, this is Monday. We're
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: at Star Bars. This is where we are because I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: started out in Atlanta. And so the good thing was
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: the club I performed at a regular basis, I met
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: so many different. It's like how I met Baron Vaughn,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: who was like a mentor to me. and that's how
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: I met Tone Bell, who's like a big brother to me.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: Our parents literally lived a mile apart from each other
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: in Atlanta. That's how I know Bobcat Goldthwait, who was
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: very supportive of younger comics and newer comics, and Tom
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: Segura and Aaron Foley. That's how I started opening for
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: Sarah Tiana for every time she came to Atlanta.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, Sarah, yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: Sarah's amazing.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: I remember when I moved here in 2016 and moved
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: to LA, she was down in Melbourne. She was going
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: to be down at the Melbourne Comedy Festival, and I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: saw her at the Improv one day, and she's like,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: come get my car.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: I was like, what?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: She's like, I'm going to be gone for two weeks.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: You have to come get my car. I was like,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: I don't, what? She's like, come get the car.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: I was like, okay. Because it's like, oh, this is
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: a big sister moment.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: We're just like, listen, I'm going to be gone.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: You can have my car.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Come get, she's like, don't you have to go to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: meetings and stuff like that?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: She's like, come get my car.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: So it was once I started performing, but then it's like,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: you get to a certain point. It was around 2013.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: I was just like, I just was like, I said, okay,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: I'm passing all the clubs in the city. I'm doing
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: stuff on a regular basis. And I would get off
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: of work and drive two hours to Augusta and do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: shows and come back.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: Or drive to.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 6: I would get off of work and drive two to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: three hours in any direction outside of Atlanta, do comedy,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: and then drive back and then go to work.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: The next day. What was your day job? Oh, man,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: I had so many day jobs. I.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: would always do bilingual customer service. I speak Spanish.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, good for you.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you so much. You know, that's what happens when
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: you're a little girl in Miami, and you're just like, hey,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: you know this language?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: You should probably speak it.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: And so I've been speaking Spanish since I was nine
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: years old. And so I worked at a power company,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: a trash company. I managed an auto body shop. I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 6: worked at a car lot. I worked for car insurance companies.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: There's a whole chapter in the book called I Keep
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 6: a Job.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: Just because it would be crazy to me where I'd
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: meet someone that's like, I want to start doing this.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: I stopped comedy full time. So I quit my job
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, Oh, that's stupid.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: Like, what do you mean?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm, I always had a regular job too.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: You have a regular job until you can't.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: It's like my last day job. I, uh, did bilingual
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: sales and customer service for a stucco supply company in Atlanta. Um,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: which is no longer open, but I'm still friends with
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: my boss because I owe her a Mercedes.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: Because this is the agreement.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: So my last year working there, I was only supposed
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: to get five days off of work. As a regular job,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: I had to take five days off. Which is insane,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: For as many days as it'll work, as many days
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: at a job you work. To give me one week.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: A year.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: Out of 52 weeks?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: Demons! And so, I was only supposed to get five
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: days off.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: She gave me 13. To do... So 2015, everything changed.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: I did a comedy festival. And I got second place
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: in the festival.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: And then.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: One of the judges, Reg Tigerman, became my manager. One
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: of the- Oh, he was my manager.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: I was just like, why does that name sound familiar? Oh,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: he was my manager at one time. Come on.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Reg Tigerman. He was at Levity. Now he started
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: his own agency.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: And he's still my manager because he is amazing.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 6: And also, it's like, just a sidebar, I did not
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: know how much of a blessing it is to actually
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: be friends with your manager. Because I didn't know so
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: many people weren't friends with their managers. It's very like
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: a business interaction. I was like, ah, but this is
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: the person you're like planning your life with.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: Right. And your career with. You see what I'm saying?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: So it's like sometimes I don't realize, like after talking
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: to other comics, I'm like, I'm very fortunate and blessed
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: in my situation because I'm like, he came to a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: taping I was doing and there was a guy there
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: and he's like, yeah, so we got to do, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: And then he goes, so who's this?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: So he's talking about like boys. And so- At that festival.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: And then it's like Michael Cox was there and he was.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: In a group.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: He was our booker at Chelsea lately.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: And so at the time he was working with NBC
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: Stand Up For Diversity. And so then he put me
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: in the call background of Stand Up For Diversity. So
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: I didn't have to do the big cattle call audition part.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: And then I ended up winning Stand Up For Diversity
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: that year. And then the former booker for JFL was there.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: And then that's how I got New Faces. And so,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: and then at the time, I signed with Reg, and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: then I got a college agent, and then started going
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: to NACAs.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: And did you enjoy doing the colleges?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: No, no one enjoyed doing colleges.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: And the reason why.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: But because it pays well.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: Well, at a certain point, it does.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: But when you first start, when you're working with, like,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: when you're going to these NACAs.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, you have to go to the conference to get chosen.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: So I went to eight NACAs.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: In two years, and I ended up doing like 60 shows.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: And so, because when I first got, because like when
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: I moved here in 2016, like I did Conan, and then,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: so I moved here on a Thursday, did Conan on
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: a Monday. Here's the people like, oh my God, you
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: moved here and got Conan that quick? No, that's not
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: how that works. I already knew I was going to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: do Conan. I just lined up when I moved here.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 6: But people love to switch the story. Or it's overnight
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: success we know is not overnight.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: Like when I look at like Tom Segura now.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: It's amazing.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: Because I remember opening for him in Atlanta in 2012
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: and we were bonding over the twerk team.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: There were two girls on Twitter. They were amazing.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Just blessings. I hope they're doing well. God bless.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: But so 2015, my whole life changed. And then in 2016,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: so when Santa Fe University had a holding deal, so
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: I had to move to LA.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: But I remember- when I started doing colleges and I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: looked at my boss and I was like, this is
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: like November, 2015.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I got to take a day off.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: Cause I got to go to Texas, do a comedy show.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: And she's like, you're going to have to put in
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: your notice. And I was like, why? She's like, I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: can't give you any more days off of work. You
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: have to quit now. And I was like, what am
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: I supposed to do tomorrow? She's like, God's got you.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: You're fine.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: And so I do the show. And then I fly
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: to Texas. I'm going to Airbnb, some lady, some random
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: woman comes up, like, The lady who had the Airbnb
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: was like, I'll pick you up too.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, sure, sure. And so I'm
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: like praying like, Lord, please. I don't know what I'm
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: going to do.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: And I go to sleep and I wake and I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: take a nap and I wake up before my show
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: and I get a call from Sarah Tiana she was
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: working on Riggles Picks and she got me a job
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: with them like a year before and she's like they're
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: gonna be in Atlanta on Friday can you do it
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: they pay like a thousand dollars and I was like
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: thank god and so stuff just started.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: Picking up Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: And then I moved to LA in February of 2016.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: And then in.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: July of 2017, I booked Daily Show. So in September
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: of 2017, I had to move to New York.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: And in doing Daily Show, were you, I mean, obviously
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: you're very intelligent. You can talk about different politics and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: have a fresh take, but was there any, were you
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: a fan of it? Did that make you a little
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: nervous at all? Like being that it is a political
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: show and it's not just, you know, fluff.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 6: Um, what was interesting is that, uh, cause I talk
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: about the whole audition process in the books. I want,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: I want to spoil it for anybody, but, um, I,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: I never saw myself as a political comic, but since
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: I talk about my experiences as a black woman in America, uh,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: People see me as a sociopolitical comic because I'm just
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: telling you what happens in my life. And so once
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 6: actual politics, politics gets involved, I'm like, oh yeah, I
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: can do this. Also, the show is a machine. So
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: I just stepped in and I'm just like, all right,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: what am I going to do?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: Also, thank God.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about the baby Jesus and the grown one too.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: Thank God for Roy Wood Jr.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: The number of times where I was lost, I didn't
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: know what was going on. I just walked in and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I was like, Because I knew Roy. Because I'd met
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: him like in a knack a year before. And everybody
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: knows Roy is the nicest comic. Sometimes I'm like, you're
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: too nice. All these open micers shouldn't have your phone number.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: Either you need a Google line.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: You need a side phone.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: You need a side phone for open micers. Stop being
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: so nice. You're utilizing too much of your time between
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: too nice to people. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: be helped, but you can't help everybody. Right.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: That was rude, but I don't care. He's a very
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: nice man. He's too nice sometimes because it takes up
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: his time.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: But the number of times I was like, help!
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: And I would just be in his office. I'm like,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: what the fuck is happening in here? I have no
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: idea what's going on. I'm not sure what they just
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: asked me to do. And he's like, oh. And then
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: he would just break down what's happening. Or it's like,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: I'm pitching. I was like, I don't know what I'm
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: supposed to be doing. What the fuck? Come here.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: And then he would help. But there is an email
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: that Desi sent to me.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Who's Desi?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: Desi Lydic, one of the correspondents on the show. Okay.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: And so Desi, it's an email that, so since the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: show started, there's this email that has been going from
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: like correspondent to correspondent to correspondent. And I can't, I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: think maybe Samantha Bee sent it to Desi maybe.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Okay. But you can see the thread.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, cool.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: And so it's like just encouraging words to like another correspondent.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: I think I might have sent it to Jaboukie. I
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: can't remember.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: But, I remember getting this and it's just like you
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: could see like, oh, because I went back on the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: thread and I'm just like.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: Is that Rob Riggle's name? Is this this person? Is
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: that Steve Carell?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: And you could just see like through the years, somebody
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: was like, here's some encouragement. Here's some encouragement. So it's
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: this one email thread that has just been passed on
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: and passed on and passed on because.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: It's a very difficult job.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 6: It's a very difficult job. The correspondents are not writers
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: on the show. We are not in the WGA. We're
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: all in SAG. And so what is interesting is because
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: we're all stand-up.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: Comics, we....
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: We're all stand-up comics, so we know what comedy is.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: We know how to perform stand-up. We know how to
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 6: perform comedy. We also have our own voice. And the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: thing that was most important to Trevor when we came in,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: because before the show, the writers would write for the correspondents,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: and then you just say these words. Trevor didn't want
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: us to just say the words. He wanted everything, every time...
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: We came on camera for it to be in our
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 6: voice and our comedic voice. So that's why when you
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: see us on the show, I'm saying words that I
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: sound like I would actually say. And it gets intense.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: It's in my syntax. It's in my terminology. And then
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: it got to a point, I think, where I just
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: came out to yell at America.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: A lot of times.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Well, your stuff is really funny. You got to also
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: guest host. Where are we in Who Takes Over the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: Daily Show?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: You know, as a performer... That the talent is the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: last person to know anything.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: But I just keep hearing things, so I didn't know
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: if I missed something.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you all of the articles that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: came out after the Emmys are conjectured.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: Okay. Because it was like, well, they won an Emmy.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: We got to say something. Right. And it's like, because
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: I was looking at these articles. I was like, who
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: the hell said this?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: I literally asked our EP of the show. I was like,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: what's happening? She's like, we didn't. This isn't us. This
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: is just them talking.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: So are you back on it as a correspondent and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: occasional host? Or where are you now? Do you stand
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: with The Daily Show? Oh, I'm still on the show.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: I live in L.A. now, so I just go back
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: and forth. So I didn't leave the show.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: And then when you were the guest host, so you
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: did it for a week? Or how did that work?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: So this is what happened. So my week was the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: week where the writer's strike started. Originally, that wasn't going
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: to be my week. There's always been adjustments to schedules, right?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: So it's like, okay, this person can do it here.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: We'll do this. And it's like, okay, this is when
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: all the correspondents are going to do it.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Boom.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: We get the schedule.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know that there might be a writer's strike
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: because I'm on the WGA. So I host on a Monday.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: The show airs. 30 minutes later, the strike started. And
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: then I don't host again until November.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: So I only hosted two nights. So my week got cut.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: So it was like, because I was like, well, what
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: are we going to do if the strike happens? We're like,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: we'll see.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: And so, but I got to interview the amazing winner
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: of season 15 of RuPaul's Drag Race.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: I watched that. And you won a GLAAD for that?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: We got nominated for a GLAAD award for the interview
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: where she talks about being a happy trans person.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: Which I can understand because it's like, she said so
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: many times we're just portrayed with these tragic stories. And
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, it's kind of like being a
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: person of color on television. Yeah. Or it's like, it's
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: like why I got a show. Like if you're an
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: actress that looks like me, you're going to be the
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: best friend.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: Because why would I be the only, why would I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: be the center of attention? Right. Why would I not
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: be the best friend in someone's story?
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: Why would I not be?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: That's why people love like Michelle Bateau's survival of the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: thickest so much because she's the main character in the story.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: She's great. She's amazing. She's a help. She really helped
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: me with the book.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: Because she wrote her book. And I, my man, Reg
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: tricked me. This is how I wrote a book. He
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: was like, well, what if you wrote a book?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know. That sounds like a
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: lot of work. And he was like, well, let's just
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: take a meeting.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I could take a meeting.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: You can always take a meeting. And so we meet
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: with the book agent. And she's like, listen, we'll just
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  Speaker 6: put some feelers out. We'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 6: We'll just take some meetings. I'm like, I could take
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  Speaker 6: a meeting. I don't know if I'm going to write
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  Speaker 6: a book. Who knows if I'm going to write a book, right?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: Who knows? And then.
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  Speaker 6: We take some more meetings. And then we take some
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: more meetings. And we take some more meetings. And it's like, okay, well,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: there's a proposal. And I was like, well, what's that?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: They're like, I just write up what you think you'd
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: make a book about. And I was like, okay, I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: figured that out.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 5: Then you take some more meetings. And it's like, okay,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: so Anne's Game's going to write your book. And I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: was like, wait, what? And they're like, oh, yeah, you
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: got to write a book now. And I was like,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: what the? What just happened? I took some meetings and
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: I wrote a thing.
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  Speaker 3: So then you got an offer.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: And then I got an offer. Right. And I was
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: just like.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: Well who and they're like andscape and I was like
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: what's that they're like what's Disney I was like what
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: and so they're like yeah so you got an offer
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: so we're gonna accept it and I was like wait
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: I gotta write a book now they're like.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Yes and what was your process of writing the book.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: Calling Michelle Boutot and being very worried um cause I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: was like I don't know where to start I don't
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: know what I'm supposed cause like I have the proposal
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: but it's like three pages and book that book is
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: not it's not skinny yeah so like three of a
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: proposal and like three, close to 300. That's the two
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: different things. And I was like, I had an idea,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: but I was like, I don't know where to really start.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: Start.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: And she said, she suggested that I start with stories
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: that I can't tell on stage because they're too long.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: She's like, people are going to go to know, want
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: to know, you know, other people know how I grow up.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: She's like, yes.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: So it's like how you grow up, how you got
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: into comedy, all of that being on the show. She's like,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: but really the meat of it can be, these are
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: stories that I can't, that are funny and, but they're.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: Too long to tell on stage.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: And that's where I started from.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: And, um, I'm going to just, um, well, I, I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: wrote a book. I wrote two books too. And, and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: it is, you, you, you know, I always say like, yeah,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: when you had all the time in the world or,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: you know, and you would have loved to have gotten
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: a book deal, that's not when you get it. You
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: get the book deal when you have no time in
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: the world and you have to give yourself deadlines. And
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: so my advice to people is like, make it about,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: just get it down and you can always go back.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Did you have a time of day that you wrote
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: or like, how did you get through getting the 300 pages?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: I had, I had to find time to write it
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: when I wasn't on the road, when I wasn't, you know,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 6: because I do the voice of Honeybee on the cartoon
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: Great North so when I'm not recording for Daily Show
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: not doing the voice of Honeybee not on the road
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: because it was like when we were.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: In lockdown lockdown come on book so you got a
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: lot done then.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: That's not what happened it happened.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: When it never happens when.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: You have all that time it happened when I got
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 6: recorded for Great North from home I'm doing Daily Show
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: And so it did take a year to write.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: But the times that I saw Amber Ruffin, she did
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: a talk with Zainab Johnson at Sketch Fest. I was
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: there yesterday. So I was there over the weekend. And
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: someone asked, like, how do you find the time to write?
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: And she said, you sit down and you write. All
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: those writer's block, whatever. Even if it's not good, you
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 6: just sit down and you write. And I was like,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: that's what I did for the book. Now, when I
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: got to the chapter about dating stuff, I did get
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: very sad and very depressed because it made me so
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 6: reflective of the decisions that I made in my 20s
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: and trying to be nice to myself for who I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: was when I was 23, 24, 25, 26. Because it's like,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 6: I'm still single, I still want to get married, I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: still want to have children, but I'm not any closer
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 6: to that than I was when I was 25 years old.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: Now, am I successful? Yes. Am I taking care of
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: my family?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: Does my mother have to work?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: No. But, for me, it's like, how do I make
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: sure that I don't think that I'm not successful or
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: that I don't think I have half a life? Because
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: my career is very good, but my personal life.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: Is a ghost in the wind. Just a Victorian ghost.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 5: Just writhing in her hands, wondering where her husband's coming back.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: Why did my children die? You see what I'm saying? So, it's.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 6: It's just, the whole process was me just going, I
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: didn't start it with going, I got something to say.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: It was, this is me as a person.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: Which is what my stand-up is. I'm never up there going,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to make a point. It's, no, this is
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: some wild shit that happened. Can I tell you about it?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: And that's the whole book. This is some wild, y'all, listen.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: Because I've always been a storyteller, even when I was
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: a kid. I loved telling a story. So the whole
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: book is me going, okay, girl.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: Come here.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: I love it. So it comes out, you said February 6th.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: February 6th, so you can pre-order it now. It's very
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: important that she gets her pre-orders. And also then you
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: have the book, or whether you're going to do it
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: on audio or read it.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: I do have an audio book.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 6: I read the Audible. Man, an audio book is crazy.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 6: You should never listen to your own voice for that long.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I do, but yes, I agree. And recording it,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: they're strict about it, so it's kind of a pain
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: in the ass. Also follow her on Instagram.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm on Instagram.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: It's her name.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 5: Dulcé Sloan. On all of the things.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, and then you can just click on the link
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: there to pre-order, depending whether you want to do audio
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: or an actual book so that you have it in
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: your possession when it comes out and she becomes a bestseller.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's on Audible. I think it drops the same
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: day that the book does.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, it should. It should.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what it was the day after Christmas.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: It was me for two and a half days just
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: reading my whole book and I was like, I wrote this?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 5: It's so great.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: Because you don't think you can do it. No. Listen,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: when you get the book, look at the dedication. That's
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: all I'm saying. Look at the dedication because I dedicated
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: it to me. This shit was hard.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: I was joking with Reg. I was like, should I
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 5: dedicate this to me? This shit was hard.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: It made me very sad. But then I was very excited.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: And then because then I was like, oh, I'm going
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: to tell them this. And I'm going to tell them this.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: And I'm going to tell them this.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: So it was hard. it was a lot. It's very,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: it's a, it's very much a lot.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: It's a hard thing to do, but what I love
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: about having, you know, two books. And in fact, I was,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: I grabbed my book the other day and I was like,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: I should probably like read this. Cause it's been my
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: first book. It's been since 2010. And, um, but it is,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: it's such a great calling card and, you know, it
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: could always be made into some, if it doesn't, I'm
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: sure you're going to get a lot of action from her,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: but even if it, even that, even if it doesn't
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: come to fruition, um, right away, it's this calling card,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: it's this piece of property. It could be something, or
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: a different version, or maybe one chapter becomes a movie,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: or whatever, and that's what's so great, that you were
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: forced to get it down, and you did it.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: I was tricked, and then I was forced. I was like,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: because it got to a point where I was just like, oh,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: they gave me a book deal. I should probably write
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: a book.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: I gotta give them a book. Because if somebody gives
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: you a book deal... Yep.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: When you have a deadline, you got to do it.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: You have a deadline.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: Contractually obligated.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: And nothing will make me write more.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: Nothing will motivate me to be somewhere or to do something.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: Because you told me I had three months.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: To do this. Right.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: But I'm doing it three weeks before.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I loved getting to talk to you.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed your stories and what we had in common
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: and the stand-up. And everybody, go get her book, Hello Friends.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 7: Please.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. Make sure my mother never
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: has to work at Amazon ever again.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 7: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 7: is so organized, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 7: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 7: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 7: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 7: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 7: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: Click and collect.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: So easy.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.