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NFL Draft Projections, March Madness, High School Basketball and More · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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long list, but distinguished list. Appreciate Bill Wilson, as I appreciate the
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MHSA and the Missispi Coliseum. Fantastic job, great atmospheres. Were you working
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here for the Yazoo City camping game Saturday afternoon or you are you off?
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To be honest, I don't remember anything but Ingomar. Why is it that
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you remember just Ingomar? Because the word Ingomar. They got two championships boys
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and girls right. That Canton, Yazoo City crowd was unbelievably wild, like
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in the best of ways, I've never seen that. Well, you'd have
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to go back to Monte Ellis and the great days of Provine Laneer and all
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the JPS, you know, battles that went on in that building. But
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it was so packed that the fire marshall had to said, no, we're
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not going to start the game in two ing clearly asles, I mean it
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was wild and I had to leave early and there were people still standing outside
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the coliseum. I mean, it was just they had to turn people away.
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So it was it was nuts. It was nuts. So tell me
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people don't care about especially when you get down to a rival like that Canton,
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Yazoo City. But it was fun, all right, A lot to
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get into as So did you watch you in the combine? Well, no,
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you were up here working. How could you watch the combine? No
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you didn't. I'm going to get into this earlier. There's a guy on
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X first round mock, former New York Jets scout Daniel Kelly. He gives
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a thorough breakdown of Caleb Williams. This very fascinating and it's a thread we'll
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get into. But the crux of this is stay away, stay far,
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far away. Like it is. It is interesting because he gets into deep
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dive detail. It's really good. We'll get into that. Speaking of projections
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of stuff, dj Ua Angolalay, who will be the starting quarterback at Florida
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State. Of course, we'll get into basketball, baseball, all that stuff.
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I've got some March madness, projections, bracketology, all this stuff.
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Dju Anglia, Florida State. He said, it's national championship or bust.
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You see this national championship or bust? He said. The expectations is they're
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high. That's what you want. You want to be able to be able
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to play at a place where the expectations are high, and it's ACC championship,
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National championship or bust. That's the expectations coaching Rvel has and that's the
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expectations this team has, including the fan base. So he said this on
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college sports radio on a serious XM satellite radio. Look, they're gonna be
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good again. I'm going bust if I have to choose, what do you
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think? Well, my immediate thought with that is expectations are high? Its
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championship or bust. Well, where else we're expectations high? Clemson when you
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were supposed to come in and take over for Trevor Lawrence and dominate bust and
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yeah, and that was a bust. So you're just telling me the same
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things now you're at your third school. So why would the expectations or I'm
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saying, let me rephrase that, why do you think it's gonna turn out
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any different? Are these big expectations different from those big expectations? No?
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Absolutely, absolutely, And I agree with that one. It just and look,
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they may they'll be in the mix again. I think it's very very
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close at the top, and again we're rolling out. You can go to
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seepourglass dot com. Just some team specific previews right now. I haven't put
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out the National Championship preview, but it's seven eight teams deep this year,
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you know, I mean, George is gonna. George is the favorite.
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They should be the favorite by just a little bit. But then it's Georgia
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can be beat. There's not one team that's head and shoulders above the rest.
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It's really not so this should be fun. Very sad news over the
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week and Chris Mortenson Mortenson passes away. ESPN PR on X. ESPN is
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very sorry to have to share this devastating news. Award winning journalist Chris Mortenson
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passed away at the age of seventy two. More was widely respected as an
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industry pioneer and university beloved as a supportive, hardworking teammate or universally universally love
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excuse me. He covered the NFL with extraordinary skill and passion and was at
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the top of the field for decades. This is very sad. I didn't
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realize he was seventy two. Did you like his coverage? I did,
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I really did. Yeah, I felt like it was very, very good.
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College Baseball Central Wake Forest one, TCU two. Just looking down through
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here, ls U, Arkansas four five, Florida seven eight, A lot
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of SEC flavor here seventeen eighteen, Auburn and Alabama. We'll get into the
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SEC. Missoispi State quietly his one five in a row? Are Missippi State
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fans happy they have won five in a row? In baseball? Power League
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the twenty fifth, and Charlotte and Big ten. It's going to be July
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twenty third through twenty fifth Indianapolis. We'll get a little more on that.
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You sent me this over the weekend, but I figured i'd bring it back
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up. So Johnny Manziel has decided is he broke? Because Johnny all of
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a sudden's trying to get back in the news. He did that interview with
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Shannon Sharp. Did you see that about his dad? And you know we
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talked told him Y Cannon about that a few weeks ago, say it his
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dad came to Kevin Somelan and basically wanted a three million dollar deal, which
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is that wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure that probably happened. But Johnny manziel
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on X over the weekend, after careful thought and consideration, I will be
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humbly removing myself from the Heisman Trophy ceremony until Reggie Bush gets his trophy back.
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Doesn't sit right with my morals and values that he can't be on the
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stage with us every year Reggie is the Heisman Trophy. I'm all for Reggie
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having his Heisman Trophy, but I don't know that this is going to do
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much. Is Johnny trying to create a uprising of sorts of Heisman Trophy winners
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apparently? So yeah, I'm with you. I don't care if Reggie Bush
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gets his trophy back under the rules. Under the rules at the time,
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it was all illegal, So that's what it all boils down to. But
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it's been eighteen years at whatever, whatever. It doesn't affect anything. But
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for Johnny manziel Now, I did not see. I did not see the
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buzzwords he used, like morals. It's hilarious that we're talking about Johnny Manziel
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and morals. But as I sent you with that the other day, I
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said, yeah, that'll show them like Johnny Manziel, really, are you
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going to create a revolution? Are you that? Are? Do people still?
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Does the Heisman Committee still care about you that much? That? Oh
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well, we got to rethink everything. I don't think so. I don't
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know what he's doing. Why do you go to work somewhere? What do
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you get a job? Magic? Mike on the Cowboy Melorniyal text sign.
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This Wholekayli Williams thing sounds nearly like the movie Draft Day. I like that.
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That's right, Mike, it really does that. That's a good reference.
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Res Dog hollo at me Wednesday after the buzzards blank MSU. In the
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armpit of Rankin County? Is Pearl really the armpit of Frankin County? It
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is not. I wouldn't put it there. There's other places in Ranking County.
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I'd called that before that. Just say it all right? Let me
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see here real quickly. Matt Winter Winter Sports Law. The first hearing in
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Florida State's lawsuit against the ACC will be held in Florida State Court on April
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ninth. The first hearing in ACC's lawsuit against Florida State will be in North
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Carolina State Court on March twenty second. It says both should be interesting.
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The latest on the fourth, which will be today. The first hearing four
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if issues complaining against the ACC in Leon County has been scheduled. It will
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be April ninth in the Leon County Courthouse, according to court records, and
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will allow the Judge John C. Cooper to hear the ACC's motion to dismiss
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or stay Florida State suit. I would have to think in the state of
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Florida there will be a stay. I don't know that they will dismiss this.
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I would guess, but I am no attorney and I do not work
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for winter sports law either. I'm just speculating. There is uh. Well,
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we'll get into this. Teams have been announced if you if you care
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on Big ten media days. Also a lot of other stuff from odds in
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the Big twelve, several things to get into. We'll get into sec standings,
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text signe. Totally different circumstances. However, I am boycotting the ceremony as
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well until Juice gets his trophy back. We think about that. Did oj
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get stripped too? I can't keep up with who got stripped and who has
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a trophy? Did Juice get stripped? Yeah? I think he was supposed
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to. I think that was part of the I might be not remembering this
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right, That was part of that stuff that was supposed to go to the
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family of the people he murdered and he hit it. Yeah, yeah,
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it kept because the trophy kept changing change in hands, Like I do remember
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this. At one point I think that was in that it was in the
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hands of some shady like memorabilia dealer, and I think that was the guy
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who remember when OJ got thrown in jail for trying to strong arm that memorabilia
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dealer. I don't remember the Heisman was part of that, but for some
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reason, I feel like I it was. Yeah, I remember pieces of
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what you're saying. You know, I'm getting to the age now where stories
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that far back just I remember pieces of them. Big twelve football predictions.
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We'll get into this way too early. I'm telling you, the Big twelve
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is gonna be fun to watch. Nick Saban's out Texas and Oklahoma, and
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the SEC is going to be a quote more wide open race. These are
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championship odds courtesy of FanDuel Georgia in football plus one eighty five at the top
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Texas plus three hundred, that would be three to one, Ole miss at
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six and a half to one, Alabama nine and a half to one,
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LSU nine and a half to one, Tennessee eleven to one, Missouri fifteen
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to one, and Texas A and M at twenty to one. If you
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want Oklahoma you can get them at forty. If you want Missippi State two
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hundred to one, getor Matt you can get the Gators at one hundred and
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ten to one. South Carolina has better odds than Florida. Just think about
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that. So that is your sec odds courtesy of Fandoel your Big twelve odds.
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Utah number one, not surprised plus three forty, Kansas State plus three
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sixty, followed by Kansas at plus six fifty. Now I think Kansas is
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a little too high. Utah Kansas State about right. Arizona figured they'll be
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up there seven and a half to one. Texas Tech eight and a half
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to one. They're way too high. Here's your winner. You can go
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ahead and lock this up. I haven't given you a lock in a while.
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I' let me give you a lock. Central Florida is gonna win the
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Big twelve this year. You can get them at eleven to one. Right
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now, you lock that up. Yes, Gus Malesan is the coach there.
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kJ Jefferson is going to be healthy. They have recruited as good as
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anybody in this new Big twelve. They've worked the transfer portal. That is
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a steal. At eleven to one, you can go play one hundred bucks
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and make eleven hundred. You ready, you can go over to Maristar.
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I bet this with Keith right now, and that can be Christmas money in
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the bank. Lock it up, Central Florida. They will beat Kansas State
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for the Big twelve championship. I feel very confident about this prediction. By
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the way, what say you clearly you forget who's coming? Oh hee coming.
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Well, you can get Colorado at forty to one. So if they
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are in fact gonna sneak up on people, you can get them at forty
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to one. One hundred bucks gets you four thousand. Who's gonna take that?
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I wonder if Teddy'll bet this? You think Teddy would take Colorado at
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forty to one. Probably, Let's see. I'm looking at some of these
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others. It's real tight in there. Iowa State, Oklahoma State, TCU.
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I mean a lot of these teams. You know, cam Rising is
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back for his seventh year and then hard to believe. I mean, this
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man is is clicking in on a decade. Miko, the OJ Heisman went
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to the memorabilia guy, and then OJ tried to steal it back. That's
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why I ended up in jail. I remember again, pieces of that Thank
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you, Miko. I remember pieces of that story. Trevor Etn. You
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know, he transferred from Florida to Georgia. This was the Etn Elder Etn,
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his younger brother. He said, quote, I can stay running back
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to. He was asked about this on a podcast why he did it.
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He said, I could stay running back to on a losing team, or
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go somewhere and possibly be running back one and win a national title. It's
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a no brainer. It's kind of a slight towards Billy Napier in it.
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Louvier, I love it when Jake is very confident about his picks. Go
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Jets, Go Saints. Y'all got to always bring up that Jets pick.
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I feel like I should get a mulligan for that, oh slightly. I
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mean, the whole thing went south four plays into the whole season. Literally,
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thehighlight of that whole deal was Aaron Rodgers carrying the flag out of the
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tunnel. That was it. I can't get any kind of a reprieve from
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this, no, because it told you not well, not just me,
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but people like Louvier ahead of time told you not even to do it.
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You know, as I've gotten older, I try not to get emotional about
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sports. It happens because you love Sports. But that almost made me throw
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up when I saw that happen, because I saw it in real time.
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I literally got sick to my stomach. I thought, you've got to be
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kidding me. And I hate it for Aaron Rodgers, but I hated it
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more for my ticket. And that is a horrible thing to say. Six
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one eight nine seven one zero five nine. Georgia offensive lineman Chad Lindbergh has
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entered the transfer portal as a grad transfer. Former top two hundred recruit and
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four star prospect played twelve games this past season, so he is on the
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on the outs with Georgia. He'll head to the portal. Who we got,
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Oh, we ain't get anybody coming back in? All right, let's
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see here. NFL Combine was this weekend. Of course, this past week.
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We'll talk to Chris Landry about a lot of this forty yard dashtimes.
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Of course, you know about Xavier Worthy at Texas four tow to one.
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That is just stupid speed. That is dumb. All right, let's go
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dumb in the best of ways, by the way, Nate Wiggins at Clemson
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second at four two eight. Let's go to DJ DJ. Welcome man,
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Jake, had you put your lock on Kansas City and Mahomes got hurt four
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plays in. That's a maloc But when you put your money on it,
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When you put your money on a forty old guy and he gets hurt,
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that's not a bout. Okay, All right, to the odds again.
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Could you give me the top five odds in the Big twelve? In the
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Big twelve, you got Utah at one at plus three, forty, Kansas
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State at number two, plus three sixty, Kansas at six and a half
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to one at number three, Arizona seven and a half to one at number
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four, in Texas Tech at number five, it's eight and a half to
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one. You realize, and this may not work, but you could put
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one hundred dollars on three, four, five, six and seven and if
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any of them win, you make your money. And if four and five
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win, you make big money. Because you think about it, six and
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a half want to one that pays you six and a half six fifty,
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you'll have that five hundred. So if the top two don't win, you
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could put one hundred dollars on you know, three through seven or three through
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eight, three through seven, I takes right And as long as one to
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two don't win it, you could win, So I like your logic.
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I'm not sure about we coming. I don't think I put money on we
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coming. No, I think I'm gonna stay away from that one. But
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yeah, I'm thinking. I mean, you think about it. If the
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top two don't win, you put five hundred dollars and you hope six or
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seven win it. But if not, you still make your money. As
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long as one or two don't win it. I'm gonna look into that,
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man, check it out, check it out. I like you. I
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of that stuff later with Chris ap College basketball top twenty five, Houston number
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one, Yukon two, Purdue three, Tennessee four, Arizona five, also
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Iowa State, North Carolina, Marquette, Duke, and Creighton. Round at
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your top ten, and when we go over here and look real quickly at
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the men's basketball standings in the Southeastern Conference. Tennessee at number one, thirteen
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and three. They are twenty three and six overall. They're on a six
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game winning streak. Hottest team in the conference. Tennessee's on a six game
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winning streak. South Carolina number two, tied with Alabama twelve and four.
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They have won three. They're twenty four and five. Alabama number number three,
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tied at number two twenty and nine, Auburn eleven and five. That
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and of course they gotta went over Missippi State over the weekend twenty two and
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seven. Kentucky at eleven and five, they're on a three game winning streak,
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twenty one and eight overall, Florida ten and six, twenty and nine,
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they're on one game losing street. Missippi State has lost two in a
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row at eight and eight nineteen and ten, followed by LSU at eight and
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eight, sixteen and thirteen and almost seven and nine, twenty and nine,
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and after that it goes. I mean you're talking the Texas A and M's
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and Georgia's and Arkansas of the world. If Arkansas can get to five hundred,
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I mean you're looking at an n birth at best. When you look
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at bracketology this week, make sure this is well it's a couple of days
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ago, so probably don't have everything in here. But you look at top
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overall seed right now Perdue, Villanova and Providence. Or for top overall seed
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Perdue, Villanova, first team out, last team in is Providence. Let
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me see here, let me send this real quick. Let me look at
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this real quick. Okay, here we go on the bubble, last four
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in New Mexico, Gonzaga, Seaton Hall in Providence, first for out,
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Villanova, Utah, Colorado, and Saint John's. Next four out Texas and
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m Iowa, Ole Miss and Kansas State. So if you're on the next
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four out, like if you're Old Miss right there with Iowa, Texas,
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A, and Kansas, you've got work to do. If you're just looking
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at this right now, no SEC teams in the play in games Midwest region
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right now, looking at SEC teams only Auburn looks to be a four seed
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in this bracket if it were today based on these projections, and they are
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the only team in the Midwest. If you go over to the West,
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that's the Los Angeles bracket. I am looking for Alabama at a three seed
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and they are the only team there. So two teams in right now from
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the SEC. If you go to east, the East region, Boston.
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I was gonna say Texas, but that'd be next year. Kataki is a
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four seed, number one seed, Yukon and Florida at a seven seed,
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and then in the South, Mississippi State is an eight seed taken on Nebraska
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as a nine. The winner would play the Houston Cougars versus South Dakota State,
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which would be the Houston Cougars. And Tennessee is a two seeds.
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So six SEC teams right now or excuse me seven seven SEC teams Big twelve
27:30
with the most allotment in nine in this bracketology cur to s VESPN Big ten
27:34
six, Mountain West six, Big East five, ACC five Pack twelve to
27:40
two America two WCC and Atlantic ten with two apiece as well. Just a
27:45
little bracketology update as you move along. White Denzel. I can't wait for
27:48
the thirty for thirty on Colorado Football in the month of September twenty twenty three.
27:56
Are we doing a thirty for thirty on that on that month? Just
27:59
a month? Brad? The last four out, next four out, garbage
28:04
has got to stop. If you're not in, of course you're out.
28:10
We all need to know who is in. Well, Brad, we do
28:11
need to know who's in. But don't you want to know who's on the
28:14
bubble? In that? In that with the that's where the hook is,
28:17
right, that's the media hook. You're right there on the bubble. You're
28:22
the first you're in the first four out or you're the next four out.
28:26
So you you pick up those teams and those fan bases by the hook.
28:32
See it hooked Brad into texting. He got hit by the hook and didn't
28:34
even know it. I get Brad's anger because they always tell you the bubble
28:42
exists all year and then even on selection Sunday. Yeah, the first first
28:47
one out. So by telling you, oh that you're they're the first team
28:52
out, it's like they're trying to make you, trying to make you feel
28:56
good. Oh look how close we were only one spot away. Oh well,
29:00
in it people really care. You're trying to make them feel better by
29:06
telling them you're the first team out. It means you're the first team that
29:08
wasn't good enough. That's true. That is true. Six or one eight
29:14
nine seven, one zero five nine, if you want to give us a
29:15
call. Oh you know what, speaking of media hooks, No, now,
29:18
I think that that's the same thing as oh that was that was?
29:23
That was a good loss. A good loss, a close loss makes you
29:30
feel better about your team. Yeah, right, it's kind of soothing over
29:33
those emotions. What they think they're doing. That's exactly what they think they're
29:37
doing. And by they, I include you do I do that because you're
29:41
in the bot You're you're in the good loss bucket. Well, there are
29:45
such things as good losses. No, you don't believe that no loss is
29:48
a loss loss. I mean, if, all right, do you expect
29:53
much out of Missippi State this year? No? If they were to play
29:57
Georgia down to the final few minutes in football four quarter game and lose,
30:00
is that not a good loss? No, because it's a loss would be
30:04
good if you won. I get you can take the whole Oh well,
30:11
I saw some nice things. You know, we can build on this,
30:15
coach speak. We could take this out there, we can we can build
30:18
on this. We just got to get better lost. I mean, what
30:22
if next year Aaron Rodgers comes back and you place your bet on the Jets
30:29
again and whoops seven and ten. But what if all seven of those are
30:38
all ten of those losses are by two points or less. So at the
30:45
end are you going to say, oh, man, you know what,
30:48
those were some good losses though, seven and ten. Think about it,
30:53
not at all? Speaking of you can get the Jets right now thirty to
30:56
one. What's a better value the Jets at thirty to one are the Cowboys
31:03
at fifteen to one? I mean, you'll make more money on the Jets,
31:07
But what's a better value? Value? Loose choices? Man, you
31:15
always give me two loose choices. It's so loose. The Jets are so
31:18
loose though that I would take the Cowboys at fifteen to one over that.
31:25
If those are my only two choices, and now I know neither are gonna
31:27
hit. What's a better bet Dallas at fifteen to one or the Dolphins at
31:33
twenty two to one. It's a harder road. In the AFC. That's
31:40
tough. I'd still go Cowboys, really yeah, because unless you can play
31:47
every game in Miami, because we know how that goes, you know,
31:52
especially how that goes. For some reason, it's been that way for decades,
31:56
decades, transcends the iPhone, the Internet, everything, global warming,
32:01
pick a subject. It has always been that way, right, Dolphins can't
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play outside of Miami, especially when they get north of the Mason Dixon.
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The media complaining about the media will never not be funny. Hump Beaver,
33:17
Who is he referencing? Who? I think he's calling you? Media?
33:23
Nope, that's not true. You're not media. Nope. But now,
33:31
okay, if you consider okay, one oh five nine, the people
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at one o five nine, who you consider the media? Now, there's
33:44
a vast difference between this and the national talking heads who beat things into you
33:51
every single minute, every single hour, every single day. Like JJ McCarthy.
33:59
By the way, I have story teat up on him. There's another
34:02
This guy may be the first pick by the time we get to the draft.
34:06
You know I have I have decided this dude is absolutely gonna be the
34:10
third quarterback taken. Now. This dude has jumped up from what he was
34:16
considered maybe sixth. He's gonna be the third quarterbacks after Caleb Williams, Drake
34:22
May and JJ McCarthy. Because he weighed two nineteen oh changes everything, game
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changer. Because he weighed two nineteen twenty twenty four NFL Draft mock draft,
34:37
JJ McCarthy sneaks into top three as four qbs go top five AFC contenders trade
34:44
up for wide receiver. So now this mock draft that I'm looking at has
34:47
Caleb Williams still at one, Jane Daniels two, JJ McCarthy three, So
34:54
he's only got two more guys to be out. He's up to three off
35:00
the board at the Patriots, where Drake Mago he has slid to fifth to
35:07
the Vikings. So McCarthy is now in front of May. I don't know
35:15
that he can get in front of Williams. I think he can get in
35:19
front of Daniels. And that's a kiss of death if he goes to Washington.
35:23
It's kiss of death to anybody just about it. But I am of
35:29
the opinion now he is going to be one or two, and if Caleb
35:32
Williams acts a fool over the next month, he may go one. Now
35:40
you're disgusted by this, I am, I am. I just don't think
35:45
that anybody is gonna pass Caleb Williams. You say, act a full but
35:51
these various stories though allegedly been acting a fool for two years now, and
35:59
no, he's still good. We got to go get him. Let's see
36:02
here, speaking of Kayler Williams, let me read this scouting report from this
36:07
first round mock first round mock on X former New York Jets scout Daniel Kelly.
36:15
So this isn't just a normal guy. I mean, this is a
36:17
scout, former NFL scout. He says, there's a former NFL scout.
36:23
One of the two things that's happening here with kayleb Williams. This was over
36:27
the weekend. A Caleb Williams possesses the greatest threat to the NFL's infrastructure that
36:34
I've ever seen in a prospect. Will all the documented examples of him putting
36:37
himself above the team and a process or the process. B Carl Williams,
36:44
Calub's dad is desperately trying to manipulate the process and get his son to drop
36:50
in the draft because of his documented disdain for the process, as written in
36:54
The Athletic, and The Athletic did do a piece on this and he links
36:59
this with documentation quote. Carl has questioned the NFL rookie wage scale, the
37:05
draft declaration, deadline, eligibility rules, medical testing, and the ways players
37:12
are paid in a September interview with GQ, he expressed disdain for the entire
37:16
draft process, where quote, the worst possible team with the worst organization in
37:22
the league, because of the desire for parity, gets to pick first.
37:28
So Carl Williams, caller's data is totally just cannot stand the whole system either
37:32
way, He says, I have a fourth round grade on him after studying
37:36
every single snap he's taken the past two seasons. Fourth round, he says,
37:42
bottom line, all the stuff aside, he's an elite athlete who's underdeveloped
37:45
as a quarterback. It's important to be able to separate the two. It's
37:50
important to be able to tell the difference between the highlights and his full body
37:54
of work. I can guarantee you the unrelenting Caleb Williams highlight mainstream media has
38:00
been pushing down our throats for the past two years is not the real Caleb
38:02
Williams that's on game film. I provide all the links of his games the
38:07
past two seasons in my scouting reports and you can see it for yourself either
38:14
way. I've removed him from my draft board after he decided not to throw
38:17
at the combine. And this is my professional recommendation to every NFL team,
38:22
remove Caleb Williams from your draft board. Those are the words on my cover
38:29
letter that's attached to my resume. This is a team game that's built on
38:32
organizational and the league hierarchy and structure, and I've seen enough to remove him.
38:38
I barely had time to make that decision before he decided not to make
38:43
his medicals available to teams at the combine. So he is basically saying,
38:50
look, this guy's a fourth round pick. He's not ready to be a
38:52
first round pick. No, he'll get picked in the top five. But
38:54
it's interesting because I remember very similar there was. There's a couple scouting reports
39:01
out on Johnny Manziel, very similar, very very similar, from just some
39:07
scouts that never got traction, and they're like, hey, this guy's a
39:10
red flag. He's an athlete playing quarterback. It's not gonna happen. And
39:17
in most of the league just disregarded, and it happened. And again,
39:22
I'm not cheering against Kayler Williams here, just giving you one scout's opinion.
39:24
What do you think of this? That very interesting, that fourth round grade,
39:31
because that's literally all that's been pounded in our heads is top three,
39:38
top three, top three, top three, fourth round. Interesting it is
39:45
unnamed Texter Kayla Williams is the next NFL bust. Buffalo Chris. I think
39:52
Kayler Williams is going to be a flop. I think between him and his
39:54
father they are trouble. Just his opinion. So that is Buffalo Chris too.
40:00
They're from that. This is very interesting. I put this out on
40:04
X on the weekend. If you want to go find it, just go
40:07
to my X feed. This guy says God have mercy on the team that
40:10
drafts him, because the real party begins once he's in a building and he's
40:15
the focal point of NFL media. That's when we will find out what Caleb
40:20
and Carl really have to say. Every piece of information is a piece in
40:24
this puzzle, and it's as an evaluator. The pictures coming out or coming
40:29
in a focus do not look good. So I mean he backs this thing
40:32
and look tags NFL teams in need quarterback. This guy has put his work
40:37
in for sure, So I mean, who knows if it's right, who
40:39
knows if it's wrong. Time will only tell us as we move forward.
40:47
Also, college football is expected to add three new things helmet communication, tablets
40:52
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40:59
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42:59
Chris, Welcome in, sirre. How are you good, Jacob?
43:00
How you doing man? We're doing good. Just talking through things, reading
43:04
some crazy scouting report from on You know how X is, Chris. You
43:07
can our Twitter X whatever you want to call it. You can find anything
43:10
you want out there and all kinds of stuff. I wouldn't expect you to
43:15
talk about this from this aspect, but I was reading an excerpt in the
43:21
last segment. Let me see it's from let me tell you who he is,
43:23
Like, you may know the guy. It's an NF former NFL scout,
43:27
and I have no idea what his credibility is, like none of that
43:30
stuff. But it was on Caleb Williams and I was reading it over the
43:35
weekend. Let's see where is there? It is right here, and it's
43:38
from a guy named Daniel Kelly, former Jet scout. Basically, I mean,
43:49
he breaks this thing down and basically at the end of the day says,
43:51
hey, look, stay away from Caleb Williams. He's a fourth round
43:52
pick. This is a disaster waiting to happen. But it's amazing the narratives
43:58
in what you see, the varying of opinion as of players at this time
44:00
of year. It is. It's one of the things that I think.
44:05
It's one of the we've talked about, like at the Combine, which it
44:07
just got back from last night, was you know, it's about medicals and
44:13
as much as you can get to know these guys, the physical part of
44:16
how well they play is not very difficult to ascertain. It's just, you
44:23
know, it's trying to find out what makes the what makes the guys stick,
44:29
you know, You can't ask a guy if they love football they work
44:31
hard. Of course, the answer is going to be yes. You have
44:35
to ask things that's going to get you to the answer. And I think
44:38
there's some interesting things in today's modern athlete. I'm old school. I think
44:44
people you and people to listen to me here know that probably, But when
44:49
I was running the when I was the director of the combine, it was
44:52
a lot different. We didn't have a lot of things. Guys just they
44:55
all wanted to work out. And now it's a different world. And and
45:00
I think there's a lot of things and I'm curious to see going forward.
45:05
NIL is going to change this. So Caleb Williams and I don't know,
45:08
I can't verify this, but the reports are and I'm not talking media reports,
45:15
but reports inside USC is that he made over ten million dollars at USC
45:22
in NIL, so he is and his dad, Caleb Williams has got a
45:28
bit of a helicopter dad. So you know, they're already these guys are
45:32
going to be businessmen in college. So by the time they want to go
45:37
to the NFL, it's like they've got experience. It's they're not willing to
45:43
just do whatever, And I'm not quite sure. He's the first guy in
45:47
forty two years that that never participated in the medical physicals. Now he's going
45:53
to have to take physicals with probably three to five teams. Why wouldn't you
45:58
want to take one physical and be done with it. But is a little
46:01
bit of a you know, I'm different, I'm better than everybody. I
46:07
don't need to do what everybody else does because I'm that's you know, something
46:13
that would concern me a little bit. But I'd have to find out more
46:16
about what is this guy like? Look, I I just a quick example.
46:23
You know when Ryan Leaf came out, you know, Mike Price talked
46:28
him up, Great guy, Greg, guy, Chris, He's great,
46:31
He's this, He's that. People at Montana where he went to high school
46:37
not as excited about it. But you know, you know what the when
46:42
at the combine and I asked him. He came out same year as Peyton
46:45
Manning, and all Peyton Manning wanted to know in the interview was how could
46:50
he get one of those betacam machines so you can begin to look at films,
46:54
and those are not like the old beta cams you use in your house.
46:59
These are like showing it thousand dollars machines that it's all digitized now.
47:02
But he wanted when Yes, Ryan Leaf, he wanted he wanted to get
47:09
his boys together. He wanted to take a trip to Jamaica. That was
47:14
what he wanted to do. That's all they can talk about. He's nothing
47:19
wrong with that, but it tells you a little bit where the mindset is.
47:22
And of course Ryan Leef went through some rough times personally, and it's
47:25
actually doing what you do. It is hosting radio and doing stuff like that.
47:29
So he's got his life together. But it's really more about what a
47:32
guy does. And listen, I think there's always that danger that somebody could
47:38
flame out. I beg Al Davis and Bruce Kebrick of the Raiders, don't
47:43
take your Marcus Russell. I knew. I knew him just intimately, very
47:49
well, and I knew how lazy he was, and I knew that he
47:52
was a bus waiting to happen. It wasn't like any brilliance on my point
47:58
at all. It just was obvious to me, not so obvious that people
48:01
didn't know them. When you get to know these guys and you get to
48:05
know the right people. That's when you can really determine what you have because
48:08
this is a big time investment. People are making Chris Andrey on your radio
48:13
Monday edition of the program, and of course finem at Landry Football Landry football
48:15
dot com. Chris is the hype around and we talked to you about him
48:21
before, but he just continues to climb around. JJ McCarthy a lot of
48:24
mock drafts. Again, we take that for what it's worth mock drafts,
48:28
but moving him up to number three, I mean, look, how high
48:31
is this guy going to climb and is the product worth the hype? I
48:37
think you'll be a top ten pick. I think the three that are mentioned
48:45
JJ, and I think Michael Penix will all be drafted in the first round
48:49
for kind of what I talked about last week, the supplying demand, the
48:53
importance of the position, the fact that these guys are so valuable. And
49:00
I think here's the thing with J. JJ is more of a cerebral guy.
49:05
He's got a good arm, he's you know, he's not asked in
49:09
that offense at Michigan to carry his team, so he's you know, he's
49:15
not going to have the numbers and do those things. Am I as confident
49:17
in him as I am in Jaden Daniels for example. No, but I
49:22
think he's a guy that's gonna be pretty good. I don't know exactly where
49:29
he's gonna go yet, but I think he's gonna go in the top ten.
49:30
Because as it gets closer and closer, the teams that don't have a
49:34
quarterback, what do you do? So see right now, the teams that
49:37
are still in the quarterback race, Let's see what happens in free agency?
49:40
What do the Falcons do? Do they make a run at Kirk Cousins?
49:44
What about Denver? Do they make a run at Kirk Cousins? Does Kirk
49:46
Cousins go back to Minnesota? I mean, just as an example, Well,
49:52
what happens there? One of those teams may not be as inclined to
49:59
go for a quarterback. The one that doesn't might be more inclined to go
50:02
and maybe even move up to get him. So, look, this could
50:06
this be another situation like when the Giants took Daniel Jones. Possibly? I
50:12
think I think JJ is better, but time will tell. I think he's
50:15
going to be a top ten, top twelve pick in this draft. I
50:21
did Chris let me ask you this before we go to break forty times.
50:23
When you look at like Xavier Worthy out of Texas four two to one breaks
50:29
a record, Nate Wiggans four two eight. I mean there's some all unbelievable
50:31
times, but that four to two one. Does that move a player's stock
50:37
potentially up? Or is that a is it minimal or negligible? What is
50:42
the value on a high forty time but then a record boarding time? Well,
50:49
here's the thing. It to me, no one should be surprised.
50:52
When we did it on lanbry football dot Com, a forecast who's going to
50:55
be the fastest guy? He was the guy and the whole tone was he's
51:00
going to be chasing John Ross and could he get in the you know,
51:05
sub four two fives? And he did, so it wasn't a surprise.
51:08
If you're watch him on film, that's exactly what he is. He's he's
51:13
a speechter. So it's not gonna it shouldn't affect him because it's what he
51:19
did. He does on film all year long. Now, he's a different
51:22
type of guy. He's got some size, he's not great in the fifty
51:25
to fifty balls. So what he is on film is what he is on
51:29
film speechter is what I expected what he is in terms of speed. Here's
51:34
the kind of the little uh misnomer about forties. I'm more concerned about statistical
51:40
measurables with regard to bodies or ten yard times or short shuttles. Do they
51:46
meet a certain metric, for example, if they've you're worth he ran four
51:52
two one, which he did, or he ran four three fives. It
51:57
doesn't make hillabeine stiff fast as fast. Okay, Now, if you tell
52:04
me a corner doesn't look fast on film and he comes to the combine and
52:10
he runs four six eight, Jacob, there's no corner is going to live
52:15
in the NFL running four six eight. It's it's just you can't live there.
52:20
You can't survive there. So that's if you if you meet a certain
52:23
metric, if you're a certain minimal speed, you're fine. Anything above that
52:30
is is gravy, you know, or as we say in Louisiana Lania,
52:34
it's just it's extra. It's great. But you know, you shouldn't take
52:38
Xavier Worthy if you thought he was the you know, mid first round,
52:44
you shouldn't move him up in the top five because he ran four two one.
52:46
That's none that make him a better player. But he's fast, and
52:52
he knew he would be fast. It's just more of can you meet a
52:54
certain metric, And there wasn't any doubt that he was going to Chris Landry
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Landry Football, also Landry football dot com. Chris they're I'm looking at report
53:51
here from Tom Pelacro says, no surprise the new kickoff rule crafted by NFL
53:57
Special teams coordinators. I have not had a chance to get off into this,
53:59
ye, I don want to get your thoughts. Would allow teams to
54:00
attempt an onside kick only win trailing in the fourth quarter, and require them
54:06
to declare it in advance per sources. Language still being finalized and must be
54:12
approved by the owners in the sake of I would assume safety here. This
54:19
is being done. But this seems like this is a very weird odd.
54:23
I don't know how you want to frame it up, dumb onside kick roll?
54:28
Help me out here? What's going on here? Yeah? I hate
54:30
it. I do. I think it's becoming. You know, they've been
54:35
kind of alluding to eventually just taking the kick off out of the game,
54:38
and they are I mean, think about that too. It's like you're talking
54:43
about where they're going to kick the ball off from where you can Hence,
54:49
if you don't kick it in the air to the twenty, it comes out
54:52
to the forty. I mean, it's just to me, it's an important
54:55
part of the game. I hate them just with it. That much.
55:00
I just I don't like it. And safety is you know, uh,
55:07
you know, we're gonna talk about safety, but we're gonna play. We
55:10
want to go to an eighteen game schedule, and we want to play thirsty
55:14
night and and you know, and on short weeks like that, you know,
55:20
tell me that makes any sense. I mean, it's just it's ridiculous.
55:22
It's we're gonna make it safety, you know, and we're gonna do
55:25
everything we can, except when it's gonna cost us money. In each case,
55:30
we're gonna we're gonna tell everybody we're being safe, but none of the
55:35
four we're not going to forsake money for that. Yeah, you you went
55:37
right where I wanted to go to. Next is now the push for an
55:40
eighteen game regular season. Now the fans would love it, We all love
55:45
it. There's more football. But again, how do you and I don't
55:46
know, is this is this close to being a done deal with an eighteen
55:51
game schedule, And if so, are you thinking because that's more television dollars,
55:55
that's more revenue. But you can't preach player safety on on side kicks
56:00
yet. Oh by the way, guys, you need to go play four
56:01
more quarters of football. Yeah, it's almost like they need to table that,
56:07
don't you think, just like just aesthetics for another year and make people
56:10
forget what you did, because it's like, yeah, that makes no sense
56:14
at all. The players association have to agree to it. The players associations
56:22
going to say another game. You know what they're gonna say, right,
56:24
another game, more money, greater percentage, and so they're going to have
56:28
to go through this is how much more money we're gonna get. Here's the
56:32
thing about it is there these teams mean so much. Think about what Amazon
56:38
paid for Black Friday, a Miami Jets game, one hundred million dollars for
56:46
one game, and they're like, it went so well, I think they
56:52
would probably pay, you know, twenty five percent more than that. I
56:57
mean, and we've got these streaming shirts. I think they're they're looking for
57:00
creative ways to make more money. And I think we're going to go to
57:04
eighteen at some point, and maybe maybe it is going to be sooner than
57:08
later. I've always believed we could go and I think I believe in extending
57:17
the season with more weeks, in not necessarily having more games. And so
57:22
what I mean by that is everybody have two buys, and so we would
57:27
have maybe a twenty week season of games, but you wouldn't have more games,
57:32
so you players would you would maybe make sure that you had enough bye
57:37
weeks to where no one would play, you know, have to play on
57:42
a Sunday and the turner out to play on a Thursday for example. That's
57:45
what was my view. Now, I think it makes sense to degree,
57:51
but remember how much money that YouTube TV plays, Google who owns them,
57:55
pays for the Sunday ticket. So if you take a and you get less
58:00
and less games that are on Sunday ticket, maybe they can't charge as much.
58:05
They can't charge as much. Then the NFL can't you charge as much?
58:09
So you see where I'm going with it. It's it's all follow the
58:13
money and it takes through all the answers. So if you're wondering if this
58:15
is gonna happen, if it's gonna make more money, the answer is yes,
58:21
Chris, let me ask you. This is shift gears real quick to
58:22
college, and we still got a ways to go. We still got to
58:24
go through spring practice. See what turns out with the transfer portal and such.
58:30
What is your thoughts on a potential three, you know, buy three
58:35
annual signing period for college football. I've always believed in having an early signing
58:43
day in the summer and then having the regular signing day. I would move
58:50
it back to late February. I just think giving it a little bit more
58:52
time for coaches, coaching changes, and things like that to to to sign
59:00
Having it in December early December, all that does is eliminate some of the
59:07
chaos of giving you it. Basically would give them basically a seven day or
59:13
ten day window for the players before the playoffs. As we all know,
59:16
playoffs are starting, so that the playoffs are going to be sooner. So
59:22
getting that done so that you're not dealing with signing day, getting ready for
59:27
the playoffs, coaching changes all at once. It alleviates some of it.
59:30
So I understand what they're doing. I just don't think it's enough. I
59:35
think they need to look at a couple of other options. There's a lot
59:38
of viewpoint to the pushback against what I've suggested having an early signing day in
59:44
August for the high school kids that want to get it out of the way,
59:46
because if you think about it, you know how many of them are
59:51
going to want to sign if they don't know what the future is with coaches
59:54
on the staff leaving. I don't know that they would do a whole lot.
59:58
I'm willing to try, but I don't know that that's getting a lot
1:00:01
of push, although that's at least under discussion. I'm always the believer in
1:00:07
the calendar in college football is just awful, and I think as we add
1:00:10
the playoffs, we have to understand that. One of the real issues that
1:00:15
I have and where I think they should take owners from the NFL is have
1:00:21
the season and have everything kind of matriculate towards the season, and then have
1:00:24
the end of season. Now, it's complicated in college because you've got school
1:00:30
and you've got kids that have to be enrolled for the second semester and all
1:00:34
of that, but I think they need to look at it. I just
1:00:37
don't know that I'm on board for a December signing day at all. I
1:00:43
don't like it. I didn't like it and still don't like it. Where
1:00:45
they're moving it. Maybe it's better than earlier than later, like better December
1:00:52
fourth than December twentieth, but it's not good in my view. I just
1:00:55
think given a little bit more time is better. And then if somebody wants
1:01:01
to sign early. The other thing is, I'm not so sure that there's
1:01:05
anything wrong with saying. Look, if a kid wants to sign anytime in
1:01:09
the fall, if he's committed, let him sign. Why does he have
1:01:15
to wait? Let him sign? Let him sign in October he decides,
1:01:20
that's as simple as handing it in. I think that all needs to be
1:01:23
looked at in my view. Make sure to find him on x at Landry
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Football also landryfootball dot com. Chris, I appreciate your time as always,
1:01:30
good stuff. We look, we'll catch up and we'll talk through some other
1:01:32
stuff next Monday. I appreciate it. Hey, thanks for having me.
1:01:36
Appreciate you. Thanks so much, Chris Landry on your radio. As we
1:01:38
move through, we'll recap some of that. We'll get into some of these
1:01:42
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1:01:46
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1:01:52
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Tony Tadlock had basketball coach over at Raymond Ymondts the championship over the week,
1:03:37
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As we head into the back end of the show. SEC baseball standings,
1:03:46
I'll get back to so many NFL here. Tennessee has well, No,
1:03:52
they're not Texas A and M is the hottest team in the league.
1:03:55
They won eleven straight. Aggies are eleven to no. Eleven straight, eleven
1:04:00
and no. They lead the SEC West Alabama on one. They lost their
1:04:04
first game of the weekend. They're eleven and one. Tennessee second hottest team
1:04:09
in the league. They've won ten in a row. They're eleven and one.
1:04:12
George's ten and one, Kentucky's ten and one, Vanderbilts ten and three,
1:04:15
Florida eight and three. Vanderbilts won five in a row. South Carolina
1:04:20
is eight and three. Missouri the only team upside down at five and six.
1:04:28
Missouri's not a good to basketball, They're not good in baseball. They
1:04:30
put everything into football. Isn't that weird? Like it just seems that way.
1:04:33
Missouri has put is Missouri a football school? Now? That is wild,
1:04:39
right, The Missouri Tigers are a football school. Let's see Texas,
1:04:43
A and M. Though in the SEC West eleven and zero, LSU is
1:04:46
eleven and one. They've won six in a row. Arkansas has won five
1:04:49
in a row. They're nine and two. Auburn a two game winning streak.
1:04:54
They're nine to two. State is on a five game winning streak.
1:04:56
They're eight and four. In Ole, miss eight and five. They've won
1:04:59
two in a row. So the only team that's upsided down in the league
1:05:02
is the predominant football school known as Missouri really named Texter. Talking about the
1:05:08
deal with Kayleb Williams, he says, sounds like LaVar Ball and Son speaking
1:05:13
of whatever happened to them. I don't know, do you ever hear anything
1:05:15
out of LaVar Ball? No, LeVar? Okay, they all start with
1:05:20
a nail. So that was the dad, Yeah, Leavar. I haven't
1:05:24
heard from LeVar. And it's amazing to think back how that was such a
1:05:30
quick, ridiculous phenomenon like that dude was the center of the media and he
1:05:38
was actually funny though, or at least he was to me. He made
1:05:41
me laugh. You didn't think he was funny? No, you just no
1:05:45
nonsense. None of these guys. Well, that's because people of your ilk
1:05:51
played into this. What do you mean. I didn't think the media phenomenon.
1:05:56
I didn't think that they were going to be I didn't think that he
1:05:58
was raising three Jordans. I was, didn't you? Oh? I think
1:06:02
you specifically told me that one time family of Michael's, family of Michaels let's
1:06:08
see here. Yeah, And to answer that question of where they are if
1:06:14
I remember right, Lonzo, Lonzo's with the Bulls and hasn't played in two
1:06:19
years. By the way, he got hurt early twenty twenty two and hasn't
1:06:25
played since then. The other kid, he's with the Hornets. He's played
1:06:31
more recently, but he is also injured and they don't know when he's coming
1:06:35
back. I just got a textas said, Missouri is actually a gymnastics school,
1:06:41
laughing. Are they good at gymnastics? I'll tell you, yeah,
1:06:45
I'll believe that. I'm gonna go with it. Let's see, I'm gonna
1:06:48
go that Missouri is a gymnastics school. Unnamed Texter Kayler Williams would not be
1:06:54
a top five quarterback in the SEC. He's a communications major. That's joke
1:06:57
his communication. As I talk, you listen, I don't know that he
1:07:00
wouldn't be a top Look, Kyle Williams is a great talent. There's two
1:07:03
things that play here, and two things can be true at the same time.
1:07:08
He is one hundred percent great athlete, played the quarterback position well in
1:07:11
college. I think he would have been fined at any school he was at.
1:07:15
It's just all the extra that's coming along. We're gonna see how that
1:07:18
manifest itself. As Aaron Rodgers would say, Tiger Bate Olivia, is that
1:07:26
done? Or is that Doune done? Olivia done is a gymnastics school?
1:07:30
What is Olivia done? Olivia done is a gymnastics school. Well, see's
1:07:36
at LSU, but is a gymnastic I'm not sure what you're saying to me.
1:07:44
Maybe he's just renamed LSU is Olivia Dunn University. CID of you are,
1:07:50
Remember LeVar and his kids were better than Jordan. That's what he wanted
1:07:54
you to believe. Rebel greg sends a snapshot heartbreak. Travis Kelsey and Taylor
1:08:00
Swift haven't spoken in days and are reportedly close to breaking up, according to
1:08:04
sources close to the couple. Are you surprised by this? Greg, don't
1:08:09
don't do this. Leave the girl, leave this alone. We're past this.
1:08:14
Leave it. Who's that? Remember the weirdo? Leave Brittany alone back
1:08:17
in the day. Leave Swifty alone. Man, she's in Singapore. Maybe
1:08:24
that's why they haven't talked to a couple of days. Why are you worried
1:08:28
about it? Greg? Why are we still worried about this? You know
1:08:32
people are going to dial into this. Who did? I bet somebody's gonna
1:08:35
owe me some money or a dinner because I said they wouldn't make it to
1:08:39
June and somebody said, yes they would. I mean, they're about broke
1:08:42
up right now and it's March. Somebody's gonna owe me something, all right?
1:08:45
Let me get back into this story on the NFL kickoff. I want
1:08:50
to come back to this other college football story. But Tom Parris pelisero no
1:08:57
surprise. The new kickoff rule, crafted by the NFL Special teams coordinators what
1:09:00
allow teams to attempt an onside kick only when trailing in the fourth quarter and
1:09:05
require them to declare it in advance, per sources. So think about that.
1:09:11
Your forty nine ers are down to the Dallas Football Cowboys in the playoffs,
1:09:17
and it's in the fourth quarter, but you have to tell them and
1:09:20
declare we're about to kick an onside kick. Isn't element of surprise a part
1:09:28
of the onside kick which makes it? I mean, the onside kick is
1:09:32
still one of the biggest game changers in sports, or potential game changers,
1:09:40
because you can at any moment kick an onside kick and if the other team
1:09:44
isn't ready, if you're down. I mean, we've seen comebacks happen from
1:09:47
onside kicks. We've seen double digit leads dissolve because of onside kicks. I
1:09:54
mean, we've seen it all. So why would we take the element of
1:09:58
surprise out of this? Not only that, but so the onside kick is
1:10:04
supposed to require it's a large A portion of it is luck, of course,
1:10:14
but supposed to require an extra skill. But also part of this is
1:10:19
they're talking about this new proposal would allow the kicking team to have a quote
1:10:26
unbalanced formation, giving them an advantage to be able to potentially recover more kicks.
1:10:35
So I could see what they're trying to do here that the thinking here
1:10:42
would be Oh, well, you know this team is down because it's all
1:10:45
it's all about offense. We want to see points scored, all that stuff.
1:10:48
So well, oh, it gives a team a better chance to come
1:10:53
back, ball in their hands, more offense. So you're trying to just
1:10:58
help a team who's loose, who losing the game. Oh well, this
1:11:01
will help, this will help them come back. So maybe I missed this
1:11:05
in the NFL rules. Can you not use an unbalanced line on onside kick
1:11:10
now? Because you can in high school and college. No, And I'm
1:11:14
gonna be I'm gonna be honest. I keep seeing that everywhere they that's part
1:11:18
of this today. As they're talking about unbalanced formation, I don't now what
1:11:24
is the current formation? What is the current balanced formation? Well, if
1:11:30
you got a kicker, you got five on each side, okay, five
1:11:32
and five Okay, so there, this would be a six' four.
1:11:36
Yes, that's what it says right here, says Pelisera says if the kickoff
1:11:39
team declares they're attempting an onside kick, they potentially could be allowed to utilize
1:11:43
the unbalanced six' four formation, raising odds of recovery. Just five point
1:11:47
two percent were recovered in twenty twenty three, and they're just and they're just
1:11:53
too surprise on side kicks thanks largely to run ups being banned. Also says
1:11:58
NFL special teams coordinators met Saturday at the Combine. Other notes on the proposal
1:12:02
setup zone as they're calling it, the setup zone. The kickoff or kick
1:12:06
and return teams would line up on the receiving team's forty and thirty five yard
1:12:13
lines, respectively, and not leave until the ball is touched or reaches the
1:12:18
target zone. So you have to wait for the ball to hit this zone
1:12:27
before you even move. Yeah. No, one second, I'm gonna go
1:12:31
back to this onside thing because it's just hit me. The thing about you
1:12:36
have to report, you have to report that you're gonna onside kick. Let's
1:12:42
think back to that Saint Super Bowl Sean Payton came out at the at the
1:12:47
end of halftime open the third quarter surprise on side kick. And now I'm
1:12:54
going back to what you said, shouldn't the element of surprise be part of
1:12:58
that? Yeah? Yea, what this is ridiculous now that I really think
1:13:02
about this, I hate this. And these are professional football players, and
1:13:06
well we've got to try to give them an advantage your professionals. You shouldn't
1:13:13
have to have an advantage. But onto your kickoff, Yeah, think about
1:13:19
that. So if it hits in the end zone, it comes out to
1:13:27
the thirty five. But if it hits in the target zone, which would
1:13:32
be the twenty and roll to the end zone, it starts at the twenty.
1:13:38
So a touchback. They're both touchbacks, but they're going to start at
1:13:44
different places. That's stupid. The whole role is dumb. Whoever put this
1:13:49
together is an idiot. Tiger Bate. Didn't the Saints win a Super Bowl
1:13:54
on it? On side kick? Yeah, it definitely helped propel that comeback
1:13:57
real quickly. One more note on this, we'll get back more to this.
1:14:00
Under new health and safety related rules, in twenty twenty three, just
1:14:02
twenty two percent of kickoffs were returned none in the Super Bowl. The NFL
1:14:06
task special teams coordinators with creating a rule that both increases return rates and delivers
1:14:14
an acceptable injury rate. This is their proposal, and we'll get into that
1:14:18
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on what they've done out of Raymond, It's just unbelievable. And you just
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think of about that out there in Raymond. An a whole lot in Raymond,
1:16:02
right Hi's Community College, a great area, but man, they have
1:16:05
built a basketball mecca over there and Raymond. I dont get caught up over
1:16:11
here on the cawbitol Millenwni's text line unnamed texture talking about this kickoff role or
1:16:18
on side kick. You don't have to put the ball on the ground sideways
1:16:24
too, Oh, don't you have to put the ball on the ground sideways
1:16:27
to declare an onside kick? Now? I don't think so, but I
1:16:30
could be wrong. I mean, look, these kickers are so skilled with
1:16:33
this now. I mean even in the high school level, you see kickers
1:16:38
that are really good. I mean, teams work on this. I mean,
1:16:41
yeah, we talked to Kevin Kelly, the coach that never punted,
1:16:44
several years ago. Is he even employed anymore? You know, he went
1:16:46
to UH Presbyteria the Blue Hose and that was a disaster in college. But
1:16:54
I mean there's a lot of and you know, that's what makes high school
1:16:57
football so fun. As you get in the high school football side, and
1:17:00
a lot of people like to clown Brandon because Sam Williams, he'll kick it
1:17:03
onside kick it. It don't matter he's coming. It could be at any
1:17:09
moment, so you don't know like it, and it can be different formations.
1:17:13
The ball can go different ways, and I think that's the way that
1:17:16
the onside kick is. As I got a text and somebody said on the
1:17:19
text line, I mean I believe it was coming out of the half.
1:17:21
The Saints, Sean Payton kicked that onside kick right out of the half.
1:17:26
So that's the great equalizer in football. So how do you have a great
1:17:29
equalizer? Now what are you thinking? I'm thinking about how I said those
1:17:34
exact words to you, But now here we are ten minutes later. If
1:17:39
I remember they kicked it right after halftime, Well, I'm just regurgitating what
1:17:44
you said. See man, Okay, I try not to talk here,
1:17:48
and then you forced me to talk, but then you don't listen to the
1:17:51
words I say. What do you mean? Done here? You're part of
1:17:54
the show. Done here minute. Your job is to take our twelve minutes
1:17:58
done? Hey, oh come on, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Don't
1:18:01
do that. Don't do that. So how would you have a great equalizer
1:18:06
now? Like, how can you come back other than play good defense and
1:18:12
that kind of stuff? Truro, announcing an on sidekick is like making a
1:18:18
married man wear his wedding ring to a strip club. Truro, thanks for
1:18:27
coming in here with that one, Scott, sounds like a crap roll.
1:18:30
The element of surprises part of the game. Northwest Ranking Mike, NFL screwing
1:18:34
Saints again. Let's see here, tiger bait. While we're at it,
1:18:42
Let's just do what NFL blitz did back in the day and give them a
1:18:47
free extra point. Did NFL blitz have that on the game? Yep?
1:18:51
What was this? What was the setup on that? It's just you scored
1:18:56
and you were up seven every time didn't matter, So I could never be
1:19:03
up more than seven in that game? Oh, do if you've stopped a
1:19:09
team. I guess I can't remember the intricacies of blitz, but you could
1:19:14
be up by more than seven, but you automatically got seven for a touchdown.
1:19:18
I got you no need for kicks QB one. If you want a
1:19:24
chance to get the ball back after scoring, then you have to convert on
1:19:28
fourth and twenty? Is that true? Is that in the NFL handbook?
1:19:32
I'm so confused on this now, CBR also Monday News, Notre Dame is
1:19:36
not garbage. There I said it. They're not garbage. So is CDBR
1:19:41
now in the camp of Notre Dame, which would be a first. I
1:19:46
don't know. I don't know what to do here, because this man has
1:19:51
been saying they're garbage for five years now, six years. Yeah, for
1:19:58
a long time. Jason Flagstaff, how long ago was the Saint Super Bowl?
1:20:00
The only thing I remember about it was they tried to break Brett Farvre's
1:20:04
foot to get there. It's quite a while though, And Moe, we
1:20:13
all know who the genius is. What is that in reference to the genius
1:20:17
who's proposing these rules? I guess? Oh okay. Also perliserro on this
1:20:24
talking about the health and safety rules. For twenty twenty three, just twenty
1:20:26
two percent of kickoffs were returned and none in the Super Bowl. The NFL
1:20:30
task special teams coordinators with creating a rule that both increases return rates and delivers
1:20:36
an acceptable injury rate. Their proposal is this the hope of all parties in
1:20:41
This new rule would make the kickoff game exciting again, eliminating the speed and
1:20:45
space that might result in higher injury rates while incentivizing teams to put the ball
1:20:53
in play. A vote would come at the NFL annual meetings March twenty fourth
1:20:57
and twenty seventh. I don't know how you can have both this the whole
1:21:00
cake can eat it too scenario right, How you can? I mean the
1:21:03
kickoff play is going to be high speed. I just don't know. I
1:21:11
don't know what they're trying to do here. Of the genius I'm stealing content
1:21:16
from is what he said. I've been stealing anything I've I reference everything I
1:21:20
put out there. This is Tom Pellisera. I didn't take this as my
1:21:24
own at all. All right, the college Football Playoff Committee or not committee.
1:21:30
But when you start talking about the college football payoff, World on three
1:21:35
tried to strategically with Andy Staples. Look at what a hypothetical SEC Big ten
1:21:43
super League would be if they parted ways from the NCAA. You know,
1:21:48
for a guy like Staples, who's highly connected, for him to work on
1:21:51
a project like this, obviously it's going to get clicks. I would think
1:21:56
that maybe he has an inkling this could happen. And in this super league
1:22:01
that he puts together, let me think three and that's one. Two,
1:22:08
it's twenty eight teams are twenty four teams per league is what it turns out
1:22:13
to be. So we're talking about forty eight teams. Yes, State,
1:22:17
no no misser in this because you know a lot of the what's that guy
1:22:20
down in Florida? He'd write this expose on why State in Florida a state
1:22:25
and ol miss shouldn't be in the super League. But I find this interesting
1:22:30
because I do think that I've always thought this is where we're headed. I
1:22:32
didn't know to what degree and how it would look. But Staples does a
1:22:38
really good job of this, and I'm just so, here's some teams that
1:22:41
was that he added to the Southeastern Conference. Clemson, NC State, Miami,
1:22:50
that's the you West, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Can the State in
1:23:00
Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. And he has them in groups of pods one,
1:23:05
two, three, four four pods. Little tickle here, so I'll
1:23:12
get into the pods. For instance, Ole, Miss and State are in
1:23:15
the same pod. In the pod and look, you can call him pot.
1:23:17
It almost be like divisions. This looks very similar to the National Football
1:23:20
League. By the way, six teams Arkansas, Ole, Miss State,
1:23:25
Missouri, l s U, and Vanderbilt Florida State going to the Big Ten
1:23:30
along with North Carolina Virginia. I'm looking down through here, there's several of
1:23:36
thos. What Utah. We'll get into this. Doug Kyle coming up in
1:23:41
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1:24:42
we join a Doug Kyle as so we talk about college baseball a little update
1:24:45
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YouTube and more. Doug, welcome in. How you doing. Hey,
1:24:54
it's Monday. It is Monday, Monday. So hey, let's let's talk
1:24:58
through real quick. We'll star in state Missisippi State quietly on a nice little
1:25:01
run here five gam winning streak, Ole miss is two on a smaller winning
1:25:04
street. But nonetheless, right now, when you look at the Southeastern Conference,
1:25:08
only Missouri is upside down. Yep. And you know, I'm looking
1:25:13
forward to the game tomorrow night. Both teams are going to come in with
1:25:16
eight and four records, Mississippi State and Southern miss And so it looks like
1:25:21
it's a pretty even game. And then oh business like a half game behind
1:25:26
them at eight and five. So they all had a pretty good week.
1:25:30
Oh no, no doubt about it, No doubt about it. You got
1:25:31
to put those on top of each other and we'll be in conference play before
1:25:35
you know it. No change at the top and the top twenty five,
1:25:39
you guys have Wake, TCU, Oregon State, Arkansas and LSU of course
1:25:44
Texas A and M. Which is are we sleeping on this team? It's
1:25:46
one eleven straight ball games. They are eleven and zero right now. Well,
1:25:50
you know, we've talked about Bradon Montgomery, the Madison native who transferred
1:25:57
in from Stanford, and then they have Jason Slavlett, who's probably one of
1:26:01
the best outfielders in the SEC, and Jim stock Slot I can't say that
1:26:06
name, Jim Slosnagel, who came over from TCUs. He's an established coach
1:26:13
with a great track record. So it's not that surprise. But you know,
1:26:17
I would not have guessed that they would be the last undefeated team in
1:26:20
the SEC this year with Alabama losing late last night. Rounded at the top
1:26:28
Tan Florida, Tennessee. I mean a lot of SEC flair here Duke surprisingly
1:26:31
at number nine and in Clemson number ten. How good is Duke? Well,
1:26:35
Duke is. It's kind of sneaky good. You know, some of
1:26:41
our ACC writers were always going back and forth about which conference is better at
1:26:45
ACC or SEC, and they've kind of got a pretty good case right now
1:26:49
because at Duke's coach, I forget his name, but he's one of the
1:26:54
ones that gets brought up on people shortlists sometimes when they start to speculating interesting
1:27:00
with Duke because we know Duke is obviously a basketball mecca under Mike Krzyzewski for
1:27:05
you know, many many decades, and then not a whole lot other I
1:27:09
mean, you know, had some football players, Daniel Jones and some others
1:27:12
in football, but you look at Duke and at least up until now,
1:27:15
we'll see what the Manny Diaz regime does it Duke and football, but looks
1:27:19
like a deeper level of commitment in football, and now it looks like baseball
1:27:24
as well. Yeah, yeah, it's you know, the ACC has always
1:27:29
been known as as a good basketball conference, and those guys might have a
1:27:33
point that the ACC probably can hold their own with the SEC this year in
1:27:38
baseball. Doug Kyle on your radio. You can find them on X College
1:27:42
Baseball as well. Get their X fave to me. Get that for you
1:27:45
right quick. As College Baseball Central, that's College base CNT. College based
1:27:48
CNT get their top twenty five for the week. Others notables here Virginia obviously,
1:27:54
ACC, Vanderbilt, SEC, South Carolina, East Carolina, North Carolina,
1:27:58
a lot of the Carolinas. Of course, as we talked about the
1:28:00
power of baseball in that region. Texas Tech at sixteen, how good is
1:28:05
Texas Tech? We know a lot of times teams in the Big twelve they
1:28:09
are going to make these runs, but how good is Texas Tech this year?
1:28:13
Well, Texas Tech may be one of the better teams in the state
1:28:15
of Texas. You know, if you notice the Texas Longhorns dropped all the
1:28:20
way down to twenty three. They they had a hard weekend in Houston,
1:28:27
you know, went over three and lost to Texas State even you know,
1:28:31
on a walk off, so you know, the folks and Orange probably had
1:28:36
to be leaving. Was it MiNet May Park not feeling real you know,
1:28:42
superior at that point, and of course Texas State they're going to play I
1:28:46
think later in the year where they played one night in Austin and one night
1:28:50
in San Marcos. So you know that's a fierce rivalry r right there in
1:28:55
that little area. On the back end, of course, as you reference
1:28:58
Texas at twenty three, Florida State and Georgia twenty four, twenty five,
1:29:00
Kentucky, n C. State twenty twenty one, sandwich in their Dallas Baptist.
1:29:04
It's just that what Dallas Baptist always does in baseball is always very intriguing
1:29:10
to me. It is that a few years ago was the first time I
1:29:14
heard of them, because they they met State somewhere and just kicked their butts.
1:29:18
And I'm sitting there thinking, why is a religious school with a city
1:29:24
name beating us in baseball? But they've got an established program. You know.
1:29:29
One thing that you do not see in the poll is there are no
1:29:31
big ten teams in the poll this week. We all know what Omiss did
1:29:36
to Iowa and then Indiana. I think it went one in three. Alabama
1:29:42
beat them twelve to nothing the other day. So the big ten right now
1:29:45
is kind of in free fall. One thing that I need to bring up
1:29:50
that happens South Carolina. Clemson played this past wiki and they got rained out
1:29:55
on Friday, but they call it the Power Metterals Series, and Clemson won
1:30:00
two five to four games. Right before I went on today, I edited
1:30:03
and published an opinion piece by our South Carolina wright Or trying to calm all
1:30:09
the fans down who want to fire their coach. So you know, it's
1:30:13
college sports when you lose two in a row to your rival and the fans
1:30:16
are ready to fire the coach. Doug Kyle on your radio talking college baseball,
1:30:21
got one more question for you here, we'll get you on your way
1:30:25
here. You referenced the Big Ten. You know, this is the last
1:30:28
year of the PAC twelve as we know it. You know some PAC twelve
1:30:30
flavor, I mean Oregon. You know, Oregon State is going to be
1:30:33
at least in this conversation, you know, all the way through. It'll
1:30:38
be interesting to see what happens in baseball, for instance, Oregon State Washington
1:30:41
State in the quote PAC two. As you know, we move out of
1:30:44
this year into next year. Yeah, and one of our guys is an
1:30:48
Oregon State guy, and we talk sometimes about, you know, how they're
1:30:51
going to do it next year. You know, we joke about UCLA going
1:30:56
directors for a Big ten series. But I don't know if they're going to
1:31:00
do that. I've heard talk that, you know, they are going to
1:31:03
meet in Dallas halfway and play or something like that. But it's it's going
1:31:08
to be very interesting to see how some of the spring sports, like baseball,
1:31:12
you know, get getting managed and get treated when football kind of you
1:31:16
know, makes the rules. Make sure to find them on X and of
1:31:20
course you can do that by just looking for college baseball CNT check them out
1:31:24
on YouTube and more. Doug, appreciate your time. Enjoy the week.
1:31:27
It should be a fun week of baseball. We'll do it again next week.
1:31:30
Thanks, Jake, appreciate it. Doug Kyle on your radio, make
1:31:31
sure you get a follow for some college baseball coverage as we move forward.
1:31:35
We'll have twenty ten lock in studio here in the next segment, real quickly,
1:31:40
a couple of minutes here, Jason and flagstaff, Mike Bianchi or Biyoncei,
1:31:45
Orlando Sentinel, USDA Grade A certified. Yeah, he's the guy.
1:31:49
He's the guy that wrote the puff piece on several years ago Missippi State and
1:31:54
Ole miss didn't need to be in the SEC and that Central Florida needed to
1:31:58
be Let me go back real quickly and look, kid, where op gotta
1:32:02
go back the other way? This Andy Staples piece on Oh, by the
1:32:06
way, what do you think about Jason Kelsey officially retiring from the NFL.
1:32:11
Any thoughts on this is he is he mad because he doesn't get the publicity
1:32:17
his brother gets. I just always wondered about that. He doesn't seem like
1:32:20
he does though. All right, where is that? There we go?
1:32:25
So this College Football super League, it's very similar to the AFC NFC twenty
1:32:30
four teams on one side, twenty four teams on the other. And you
1:32:34
look in the Big Ten right now. I mean, if Staples the way
1:32:36
he has this proposal, you would add Florida State in North Carolina and Virginia
1:32:45
and Pittsburgh into the Big Ten. Also Notre Dame goes into the Big Ten.
1:32:54
I'm just looking through this list, also Utah, and that's the teams
1:33:00
I mean we get down to. So for instance, he has in one
1:33:02
division because you're looking at one, two, three, four divisions per This
1:33:08
is NFL. That's all it is. This the NFL model, the Super
1:33:13
League SEC, Big ten, Florida, Georgia, Clemson, n C State,
1:33:16
South Carolina, Miami in one division. Now. I don't know if
1:33:20
these divisions would hold because you look, for instance, Alabama, Auburn,
1:33:26
Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia Tech in one. I mean,
1:33:30
I like the way he's done this to you mean geographically, for instance,
1:33:31
Texas, Texas A and m Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Kansas
1:33:35
State. You just condensed the Big twelve, the old Big twelve now into
1:33:40
one division. Penn State, Florida State, North Carolina, Virginia, Pittsburgh,
1:33:45
Maryland. That's a division. In the Big ten. He has Michigan,
1:33:49
Michigan State, Notre Dame, Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers, Ucla,
1:33:56
USC, Oregon, Washington, Utah, and Nebraska. It's kind of the
1:34:00
old Pac twelve plus Nebraska. I think this is probably somewhere when we're headed
1:34:05
something like this. Do you think we're headed something like this? And does
1:34:10
Staples have a bead on this? Does he know something we don't? I
1:34:15
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studio, head basketball coach at Raymond Coach, thank you so much. How
1:35:23
you doing, I'm good, Thank you for having me today. And that's
1:35:25
kind of a crazy question. Right. I mean, you're just coming off
1:35:27
of another state championship, and I appreciate you jumping in with us. How's
1:35:30
you said? Today was obviously a good day. A lot a lot of
1:35:32
high spirits I in Raymond. Yeah, teachers, faculty, staff, students,
1:35:36
everybody giving high fives, fist bumps, hugs, everything like that to
1:35:40
our guys. Obviously, well Deserved had one of the best seasons in our
1:35:44
school's history. So everything that they have come in their way, of course,
1:35:46
is greatly appreciated. For those that may not know your story, just
1:35:50
kind of take us through. Because when you and I talk Saturday on side
1:35:55
set, after you guys had just won, you said that when you got
1:35:58
to Raymond, you said, hey, I want to build a different culture.
1:36:00
I want to do things different. I want to bring I want to
1:36:02
bring a championship type program to Raymond. Now, for those outside, you
1:36:08
know, the Raymond area, people may go, why do you want to
1:36:11
go to Raymond? Tell us about that? Right, So I just left
1:36:15
Meridian, we just want to state championship twenty seventeen, and the Raymond job
1:36:18
came open. And actually I didn't even have any plans to come to Raymond.
1:36:21
I thought I was going to go get a junior college assistant job with
1:36:25
my former boss, and he had kind of talked me into taking the Raymond
1:36:28
job, and so finally I accepted. I said, Okay, I'll do
1:36:32
it. And when I do something, I'm going to go full blown with
1:36:35
it. And I know one of the biggest things about building a program you
1:36:40
have to have a foundation. And our foundation is built on our culture.
1:36:43
And so I can tell you this, and it's funny. Now, I
1:36:45
was sitting in my interview and it was about eight or nine people, and
1:36:47
I made the comment I said, I want to, you know, make
1:36:50
Raymond, you know, into the best basketball program in the state of Mississippi.
1:36:54
And there was a couple of chuckles even in the interview, and of
1:36:56
course that I kind of rubbed me the wrong way because I had a mission
1:36:59
and had a vision, and I wanted to put in place, you know,
1:37:01
for us to get to this point where we are now. And of
1:37:03
course I know things it takes time, you know, especially if you want
1:37:06
to build it to this level that we have, and our first year,
1:37:10
they had just won state the year before I got there, and so I
1:37:13
knew the bulls I was gonna be on our back heavily. So I went
1:37:15
and scheduled a bunch of five and six A schools right out the gate.
1:37:17
Well, the year before I got there, they were twenty three and five.
1:37:20
By the time we made it to Christmas, we had already lost six
1:37:23
games. So of course people the chatter, I thought he could coast,
1:37:27
you know, when we've already lost six games. This year, we were
1:37:29
nine and six at Christmas, and one thing about it, my guys never
1:37:31
wavered, you know. We were nine and six, and I said,
1:37:33
if we can just make it to Christmas, we're going to be okay.
1:37:35
And we ended up winning twenty in a row after Christmas had finished twenty nine
1:37:39
and six, and that kind of laid the foundation to where we are now.
1:37:42
We finished twenty nine to six one to state championship and the rest is
1:37:45
history because we just followed suit every year, tough schedule early and us being
1:37:48
in four eight kind of gives us an advantage because I'm gonna go play the
1:37:51
Clintons, the Meridians, the Terrys, Provine Lanier, you know, or
1:37:55
Lanier's in our district, but callaway teams like that early just so we can
1:37:59
get battle test. So someone we do get back in our district. You
1:38:00
know, we're ready to make that run for a state championship, which we've
1:38:03
been there eight straight years now, Tony Tadlock and study. If you got
1:38:08
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three seven seven six. That is the Cawbol Maloorny's text line. So when
1:38:15
you got to Raymond and you reference coming off the championship, what was the
1:38:18
response from the young men? I mean, obviously, and you know this,
1:38:23
being a coach, you take over a program in different there's gonna be
1:38:26
different responses how you take a team over. For instance, if you took
1:38:28
over a team that had not won a whole lot, then you got to
1:38:30
have that buy in. If you take over a team of guys who won
1:38:32
a championship, maybe they think, well, I mean, look, you're
1:38:34
a new coach. We already know what we're doing. The cultures are all
1:38:39
going to be different across the board, that's right, and I think it
1:38:41
starts at the top with every head coach has their own vision of what they
1:38:44
want their culture to look like. I just knew Raymond hadn't won a championship
1:38:47
since ninety nine, and when they won it in seventeen, I said,
1:38:50
how are we going to handle those expectations? We've never won it. None
1:38:53
of these guys that ever wanted till now are they going to come back next
1:38:56
year? And I knew we needed to get hitting the mouth early. That's
1:38:59
why I say, you know, no, Canton and Brandon and Murraw and
1:39:01
a bunch of those teams. Meridian beat us early, and we needed that.
1:39:04
You know, we needed to be humbled, you know, because coming
1:39:05
back from a championship, you don't feel like you are usually gonna win it
1:39:09
again just because you show up. And we had lost three starters from the
1:39:12
year before that, so I knew younger bunch, and I think a lot
1:39:15
of people were kind of intimidated to take that job because they just won a
1:39:17
state championship and they didn't want those expectations. And one thing about me,
1:39:20
I'm always up for the challenge. I want to be able to prove myself.
1:39:24
And that's one reason why I'm so grateful for Raymond, because they gave
1:39:28
me a chance when they didn't have to. I didn't have any connections at
1:39:30
Raymond when interviewed. You know, the first interview came back, interviewed again,
1:39:32
and they called me and asked, I don't want the job, and
1:39:34
of course I took it. And now now we're here, So talk a
1:39:38
little bit about this group of guys, you know. And I said this
1:39:40
Saturday, and I meant it because you know, obviously they're working all these
1:39:43
games. Nothing against any of the other teams. A lot of fourteen teams
1:39:46
there, guys, girls, they are all really good. You don't just
1:39:48
show up there that you gotta win your way there. Your team looks different
1:39:53
and people have said this. They look like they have fun, not that
1:39:56
the other kids aren't. It's a different level. I mean, it's a
1:39:58
different level. You know. You guys are sitting there the second and a
1:40:00
half against Macom and you know that's that's a good opponent, really good opponent.
1:40:02
But they look like they're having fun. They're playing faster than most people.
1:40:06
They're a step ahead, and it looks like organize chaos and that it
1:40:12
is run and gun and they trust each other. It's just a it's a
1:40:15
fun team to watch. Yeah, and I wish the outsiders could come see
1:40:18
a practice of ours. You know, that's one thing that we pride ourselves
1:40:20
on. We try to make practice way harder than the games. We value
1:40:24
culture. Every Wednesday, we sit down, we do something called character Counts.
1:40:28
We talk about anything from life basketball, how to be a man,
1:40:31
how to be a good husband, how to be a good son, whatever
1:40:33
it may be. And I just think all that ties in to being a
1:40:36
good basketball player. You know. One of our quotes that we live by
1:40:40
is we're gonna win long before we ever step on the floor. And we
1:40:44
value what the bench looks like. That's one thing that we take great pride
1:40:46
in. Our bench is going to be energetic. They're gonna wave towels.
1:40:48
I mean, I've gotten complaints from officials all year about how my bench likes
1:40:51
to come on the floor, and that's something that I can deal with,
1:40:55
you know, just because it shows how excited they are, and it just
1:40:58
rubs off because they know their time is coming graduating. You know, six
1:41:00
seven seniors, and they know their time is coming next year and they want
1:41:03
that next group to be able to cheer them on. And that started again
1:41:06
seven years ago as well. You know, just our culture in place,
1:41:10
and it's so much fun coaching this group. I think I told them maybe
1:41:14
one hundred times this year. I said, in my thirteen years of coaching,
1:41:15
this was by far the funnest. And I didn't say that after we
1:41:17
went in state. I said that back in October, November, December.
1:41:20
I just knew this group had something special about them, and the biggest fear
1:41:25
I had was them not being rewarded by winning the state championship. And so
1:41:28
I put a little bit more pressure on myself this year because I wanted to
1:41:30
make sure that this group got that ring that they deserve. Talk about some
1:41:33
of those guys that when you've got guys going I mean now, guys going
1:41:38
to play in the SEC, guy's going to play college basketball, it's a
1:41:40
heck of a group. Yeah, we got a kid signing to Damar and
1:41:43
Terry and he's our first kid off the bench, you know. So it
1:41:45
just shows you how deep we were this year. And one thing I'm going
1:41:47
to do, I'm going to advocate for my guys all the time. You
1:41:49
know, I'm going to make sure they're at camps, we're in front of
1:41:53
you know, college coaches. That's why we're playing a lot of big games
1:41:56
because I know college coaches don't want to come see you play a team that
1:41:58
you know you're gonna be bout forty. They don't really care what the kid
1:42:00
does in that game because it doesn't matter. And so playing in big games
1:42:03
obviously gets our kids a lot of exposure the way we practice. When college
1:42:06
coaches come in, they'll tell you, now, they're not recruiting individual talent,
1:42:11
they're recruiting programs and so. And I know, you know that you're
1:42:13
around sports. And so if I can get a kid from a championship program,
1:42:16
he may not score as much as the kid out of school that only
1:42:18
won eight games, but he knows how to defend, he knows how to
1:42:20
rebound, and he knows how to you know, be coached hard, all
1:42:24
the little intangibles it takes to be a good player. You know, that's
1:42:27
one thing that we take great pride in. Mackay Strong. I'm going with
1:42:30
him. He was the MVP of the of the State tournament. He's gonna
1:42:34
sign next week, my point guard. He's got multiple offers. Of course,
1:42:38
EJ's going to Missippi State. Got another kid, Kimarus Lewis got four
1:42:41
or five JUCO offers, and then kimonte Wright rounds us out. You know,
1:42:45
he's got three or four juke offers. So that's one thing that we're
1:42:47
very proudful in. Not only do we teach our young men how to play
1:42:50
basketball, and of course we want them to graduate high school and be successful,
1:42:54
but they got a chance to go in and do this for a couple
1:42:56
more years for free, and I know that's a big blessing for them.
1:42:59
Talk about e J a little bit more. I mean, obviously, you
1:43:00
know he's a guy that when he walks on the court, he stands out.
1:43:02
I mean, he's just you know, I've always said this, Certain
1:43:04
athletes walk a certain way, they move a certain way. I can remember
1:43:09
the first time I ever saw John Riss Plumbley. I had no idea,
1:43:12
you know, working for Brandon who we said, who's gonna be the quarterback?
1:43:15
They have a quarterback change, and I've looked around and said it's gonna
1:43:17
be that guy in the warm ups. They said, how'd you know that?
1:43:19
I said, he's he walks different, he moves different. EJ's that
1:43:23
way. EJ will be the first one in the gym at seven point thirty
1:43:27
every morning, He's going to be the last one to leave. It's funny.
1:43:30
The day before the State championship game. You know, I told him,
1:43:32
I said, e J, it's okay. You've been here forty five
1:43:34
minutes after everybody else. We're waiting on him to leave so we can wash
1:43:38
the clothes. And he's just such a unique kid, comes from a great
1:43:40
family. I can coach that kid as hard as I want to coach him.
1:43:44
And I tell people all the time about him. For him to have
1:43:45
the number one ranking next to his name, he's almost shy of that,
1:43:49
Like he's not the type that wears that with pride, you know, because
1:43:51
he don't want to seem like he's better than the rest of the team.
1:43:54
And you know, he's such an unselfish kid. He wants to win.
1:43:58
He's really a big kid, that's what he is. And when I talked
1:44:00
to coach Jans, you know, Mississippi State all the time, I said,
1:44:02
not only are you getting a great player, you're getting an even better
1:44:05
kid. You know. I mean, he's gonna go to class, it
1:44:08
makes good grades, he never misses school. He does all the little things
1:44:11
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to soundcomav dot com. Tony Tadlocke, head basketball coach at Raymond. They
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are your four A champion and of course tomorrow will be the MHSAA, Mister
1:45:17
and MSUs Basketball Awards. Of course Eric Payman EJ. Payman will be awarded
1:45:24
the four A winner. But I'll tell you what and not just saying this,
1:45:27
what the MHSA has done with these awards, you know, the obviously
1:45:30
mister football for several years now, mister MSSUS basketballs, miss volleyball, baseball,
1:45:34
softball, that is it's it's a smaller version of the Connerley and all
1:45:41
the awards going on there. And I think it's fantastic. Yeah, I
1:45:43
do too. They've actually asked me in the last couple of years to be
1:45:45
on the community to select the coaches for that and this, and it has
1:45:48
been fun doing that. You obviously, you can't be on the committee if
1:45:51
you have a player that's involved. But of course it's been on the collar
1:45:55
around and talk to coaches. You know, I want to just highlights your
1:45:58
sport, you know, because we know football is in the South, you
1:46:00
know, but for them to be able to expand and give other recognition,
1:46:02
because there are a lot of talent and athletes in the state that need to
1:46:05
be recognized, especially in their individual sports, you know. So I think
1:46:09
that's obviously a blessing that they've expanded that. Let me ask you this talking
1:46:13
about and we'll get back to Raymond because I do have some other questions as
1:46:15
far as you know, what's next into some other stuff. As far as
1:46:18
the program, I hear this a lot from high school football coaches about name,
1:46:24
image and likeness. Of course that's the hot thing, and we know
1:46:26
that the collectives. Where's college football going? But then also where's basketball going?
1:46:30
Where's baseball going? Because it's going on in all sports and from a
1:46:33
recruiting side, and I think you referenced you're going after you leave here to
1:46:38
watch a junior college basketball game some of your former players are playing. Coaches
1:46:43
will say, hey, you know, back in the day, which is
1:46:45
just a few years ago, if you had, you know, say,
1:46:46
Missippi State, are all miss recruiting players in the state of Mississippi trying to
1:46:50
fill out a twenty five man roster. A guy that maybe's quote a tweeter,
1:46:55
you know, you don't know where he's going to be. They take
1:46:57
a shot on that guy to fill out, you know, their roster.
1:47:00
Now they're going into the transfer portal. Let's make it harder on high school
1:47:04
kids. Are you seeing that in basketball as well? From a recruiting side
1:47:09
from high school kids to get that shot at the next level. Absolutely,
1:47:12
I had many coaches that recruited EJ. You know, I mean from the
1:47:15
highest level in the country to the lowest level, you know, and that's
1:47:18
one of the things that they would say, like, man, we really
1:47:20
want to take a shot on him, but it's a lot easier getting a
1:47:23
twenty one year old that's already made and he's more physical. He's been on
1:47:28
this level, so he's obviously a little bit more polished. But in the
1:47:30
last probably year, you know, this was EJ's tenth grade year, when
1:47:34
now in the last year, I've heard a lot of coaches say they have
1:47:36
to get back to recruiting a lot of high school kids because dealing with these
1:47:40
twenty one twenty two year olds that have transferred multiple times. It's a lot
1:47:44
of headache involved with that because you're starting to see the development of when it
1:47:48
gets tough, I'm just going to shut down and quit and I'm transferring somewhere
1:47:50
else. And I think that's that's setting up bad precedents in college athletics or
1:47:55
just and I'm gonna use the kid at Old Missus year quin Shawn Jenkins,
1:47:59
I don't think he so much left Old miss because they weren't going to pay
1:48:01
him. I just don't think they could pay him enough because I know how
1:48:04
State was gonna pay, you know, even more than he was getting an
1:48:06
Old Miss. And I know don't Miss. I don't want to misquote it,
1:48:09
but I know he was making over a million up there, and so
1:48:11
you're you're saying, is a million not enough for a college athlete to make
1:48:15
it at Old Miss? And so I just think there needs to be some
1:48:18
limits on how they do that. Now, how they do that, I
1:48:21
can't tell you because that's tough. How can you say how much a kids
1:48:25
should get, how much you shouldn't get, should there be a salary cap
1:48:28
involved? And I know it's tough on college coaches. I think that's why
1:48:30
you see a lot of these older coaches getting out now because not only do
1:48:34
I have to go do that for the high school kids, now I got
1:48:36
to get the portal and recruit, and then I have to recruit my own
1:48:39
kids again after I just recruited you to come to my school. So I
1:48:42
know that's extremely tough on coaches that one has been in it for so long,
1:48:45
like the Nick Sabans, those guys, you know, now they're having
1:48:47
to fight with their own kids, and you know, basically beg them because
1:48:51
I know at Raymond High School and I'm gonna use that. That's one thing
1:48:55
I don't have to do is beg a kid to come to practice. You
1:48:57
know, our culture said, but if they start allowing high schoo to pay
1:49:00
kids, I almost would have to do that, you know, or find
1:49:03
ways to you know, generate revenue for them to want to stay at Raymond.
1:49:06
So I get how tough that is on that level, and I know
1:49:10
it's a battle that needs to be fixed, you know, really fast.
1:49:12
No, absolutely, and I feel like here in the state of Mississippi we're
1:49:15
probably safe, but I know that in other states, and we know this,
1:49:17
they're they're allowing some name, image and likeness in high school sports.
1:49:21
And I really hope that that continues to be out of high school sports here
1:49:26
because I can't imagine. I mean, I know the stories that go on
1:49:30
with playing time on and we know this. You get down to youth leagues,
1:49:34
city leagues, tournament ball, regardless of baseball, basketball, whatever the
1:49:39
problems you have potentially with some parents. Not to put everybody in the same
1:49:42
bucket. We know that we joke about that on this show, but can
1:49:45
you imagine thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year olds and parents when you start talking
1:49:47
about money. I mean kids can't even process that. I meant a lot
1:49:54
of adults can't. Right, I'm gonna put myself in that. So but
1:49:56
if you put that mixture, that additive on the fire, it's explosive.
1:50:00
Yeah. I mean kids can't even get up and set their alarm clock without
1:50:03
their mom or dad waking them up. Much lesbian be able to handle money
1:50:05
on their own, or telling a coach how much they need to be able
1:50:08
to stay at this school, or you know, then you start talking about
1:50:11
playing time. You know, if my kid doesn't get this, or or
1:50:15
I'm a pad the coach's pocket a little bit. When money starts getting thrown
1:50:17
around like that, I just think it's, uh, it's it's a bad
1:50:20
thing. And hopefully, like you said, it'll never you know, jump
1:50:24
into Mississippi, because I know that would be tough to have to deal with
1:50:27
each and every day, because I'll be forced to want to tell you you
1:50:30
don't want to be here, you can leave, you know, because that's
1:50:31
one thing about me. They don't have to beg me to be at Raymond.
1:50:33
I don't want anybody. I don't want to beg you know, have
1:50:35
anybody on my team at Raymond and so. But like I say, if
1:50:39
money's involved, it's a totally different game in that aspect. And that turns
1:50:44
back to culture kind of having a no nonsense like you you don't let the
1:50:49
natives run the tribe, so to speak. Have you seen an uptick in
1:50:56
youth basketball in that area? For instance? You know, talking to Beloved
1:51:00
in the show Central and you know when you start getting too Philadelphia. Those
1:51:02
stories are fascinating. The fact that I think I was told over the weekend
1:51:05
one hundred plus teams playing like those youth leagues. I mean, to get
1:51:10
on those clubs and those high school teams. I mean, it's it's almost
1:51:14
like Simon swimming down a stream, right, you could almost be you can
1:51:16
get called I mean, and you're talking about what fifteen sixteen? You run
1:51:20
what fifteen sixteen? Seventeen guys on a roster? Yes, So this year
1:51:24
was the most I've ever had is you know, I think we dressed eighteen
1:51:26
every night. Normally I addressed about fourteen or fifteen. But I had a
1:51:29
big senior class. I wanted some other guys to be able to get experience.
1:51:31
But I mean, yeah, and I know exactly what you mean about
1:51:34
in the Shoba County because that area has grown tremendously, you know, in
1:51:38
the Shoba County, Chocktaw, and of course we played Choctaw the semi finals
1:51:41
and just a testament to them, they brought seventeen buses down to the state
1:51:45
tournament to watch us play, you know, as you know, chalks on
1:51:47
us. So when I tell you they love basketball in that area and it
1:51:50
just shows how competitive it is, you know, on that level. So
1:51:54
what's been the response as far as you know, again, we'll go back
1:51:57
to football. We know how important the eighth grade, seventh, eighth grade,
1:52:00
ninth grade similarly, so basketball the same. To make sure that your
1:52:03
junior high programs are up to speed, absolutely, And I'll even take you
1:52:08
back to when I was in Meridian when I got the head ninth grade job,
1:52:11
and one thing I was telling my coach, I said, whatever we
1:52:13
do at the high school level, I want to be able to do with
1:52:15
my ninth grade team. In the last four years I was there, we
1:52:17
went fifty too. And oh that group when they got the high school when
1:52:20
they were all ninth through twelfth grade. We want to state championship. So
1:52:24
I know the importance of building that foundation in the ninth grade. So when
1:52:28
they do get to that tenth grade year, eleventh grade year, twelth grade
1:52:30
year, same terminology, same principal, same discipline, all the same things.
1:52:33
That obviously it makes it a lot easier transition from that ninth grade to
1:52:38
that high school year. And if you don't value that, you may have
1:52:41
a good team, but you're not gonna have a good program over the long
1:52:44
haul. So middle school ninth grade is definitely key to our success in Raymond.
1:52:47
You don't see it as much, or at least I don't see it
1:52:50
as much on social media. You know, three, four or five years
1:52:54
ago, there was a lot of knuckleheads, and you talked to NFL scouts,
1:52:57
you talked to college recruiters in a lot of sports. First thing they
1:53:00
do is they go and look at some my social media because they want to
1:53:02
make sure that, hey, these guys are girls are buttoned up. How
1:53:05
how how often do you preach that? How important is that for you?
1:53:09
Oh? Yeah, that's part of our character accounts. I mean, we
1:53:11
talk about social media is basically, you know, an interview for you.
1:53:15
Now, I can get on somebody's social media and I can see what their
1:53:17
character is, how they live their life, you know, what kind of
1:53:19
person they are, all those things. So that's one thing we try to
1:53:23
tell people all the time. The way you present yourself on social media,
1:53:27
it can cost you a scholarship. It can also help you gain a scholarship.
1:53:30
It can cause you a job, it can help you gain a job.
1:53:32
And so the way you portray yourself in there is obviously key, you
1:53:35
know, to you know who you are. Yeah, and you know,
1:53:39
i'd like to think that we're moving, you know, the young people,
1:53:43
we're moving some of that forward, but then you still see some of these
1:53:45
situations where it's just it's wow, Yeah, you know what they put out
1:53:49
there from a you know, a video at a party or what they're doing
1:53:53
at home, and you know, and again I've had coaches say, look,
1:53:57
if I go, especially when looking for a quarterback, if his social
1:54:00
media is less than par, we're likely going to take a pass on him.
1:54:04
Yeah, And it's funny that you bring that up about you know,
1:54:06
people's social media. It doesn't even have to be so much what you post,
1:54:10
it's what you're doing at a party that someone else records and then they
1:54:14
post. I mean, I hate to bring this up, but like the
1:54:15
Laramie Tunzel incident. You know, there's things like that that you know,
1:54:18
he obviously he didn't post that, but his own people did and it cost
1:54:21
him a lot of money in the draft. And of course he's been able
1:54:25
to make it back now. But everybody's not that fortunate to be able to
1:54:27
do that. And so, you know, we we really try to stress
1:54:30
all social media, you know, what they do on there and how to
1:54:32
monitor it and because we have ways where we monitor it to as coaches.
1:54:38
Before I get to take a break, we'll come back. I want to
1:54:39
talk a little bit more on junior college system. We got more more break.
1:54:42
I didn't realize when we were talking. I don't I know he's not
1:54:44
gonna mind h JR. Downs. I did not realize y'a were king.
1:54:46
I am sorry for you. Yeah. Some days that's good and some days
1:54:50
that's not. He's probably gonna, you know, say something to me when
1:54:53
I leave here about saying that. Yeah, yeah, and that's Beaver's buddy.
1:54:55
Didn't Jr. Doesn't he owe you a shirt or a hat? Or
1:54:58
something, a pearl pirate something. I think j R ow is me a
1:55:00
bunch of pearl stuff. Well, he's got connections there, so he ought
1:55:04
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1:55:06
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Appreciate Doug Kyle, also Chris Landry and coach. You know, we're
1:56:19
talking a little bit about the junior college system. You're headed to watch some
1:56:21
junior college basketball at you know, I just feel like sometimes we need to
1:56:26
put more emphasis and that's me putting myself in that because we don't cover it
1:56:29
enough. But we know about the success in football, basketball, baseball.
1:56:34
It is a great, great product that the state of Mississippi has. Oh
1:56:38
absolutely gives them another avenue to be able to go get two free years of
1:56:42
a college degree and go play two years of college basketball and then hopefully turn
1:56:45
that into you know, two more years, so then go get there,
1:56:48
you know, a four year degree. Since I've been at Raymond, I
1:56:51
was trying to think when we were off air, I've probably had eighteen or
1:56:56
nineteen kids in seven years signed junior college. So without junior college, those
1:57:00
would have never had a chance. And a bunch of those kids that went
1:57:01
signed Division one after that, so of course that was their their next step
1:57:05
to be able to get to where they were trying to go. And so
1:57:08
definitely grateful for our junior college system in the state of Mississippi. And like
1:57:11
I say, I'm going down to Hines the night to watch two of my
1:57:14
former players, Christian Noel and Tremaine Dix, who was a part of our
1:57:16
twenty twenty two state championship team. What's your message. I'm sure that you
1:57:21
preach that because you know, like everything else, you've got to guide these
1:57:26
young men because everybody wants to go play you know, basketball specifically sec acc
1:57:30
I mean, they want to be in the big programs. Can anybody be
1:57:31
in the big programs? But that's okay. What do you tell your guys
1:57:35
as far as you know, just at a base level on recruiting. Oh
1:57:39
yeah, and we talk about recruiting starting the ninth grade. That goes back
1:57:42
to our weekly talks. You know, if you have an opportunity to play
1:57:45
after high school, you're blessed. I mean, because we do have seniors
1:57:47
that don't have that opportunity. And so we value the jucosystem. Of course,
1:57:51
Hines being right down the road from us, you know, we go
1:57:54
check them out when we have former players or just to go catch a game.
1:57:57
You know. Normally they let our guys in and you know, so
1:57:59
they get to see how competitive that level is. Sometimes junior college. When
1:58:02
people hear that, they're like, oh, that's just junior college. Now
1:58:04
there's a lot of really good players in junior college. There's a kid that
1:58:08
was at Hines two years ago. Now he's in the University of New Orleans.
1:58:13
He's one of the top scores in the country, you know, and
1:58:15
so a lot of guys just they need that opportunity. So JUCO provised that
1:58:18
and now they excel in junior college. Now they're able to, you know,
1:58:21
excel at the Division one levels. So I definitely feel like our junior
1:58:25
college system is very beneficial in the state of Mississippi. We could go down
1:58:30
football or base or basketball. With this next thing I want to ask you
1:58:32
about it, it's it's toughness. Not these guys aren't tough, right,
1:58:35
I mean, these guys today athletes. I mean, you go look at
1:58:38
the NFL Draft or NFL combine this past week, forty record was broken.
1:58:41
I mean we see hiring spats, stronger guys. I mean, it just
1:58:45
continues to get better. But a lot of times people say, you,
1:58:47
especially with basketball, well they just want to shoot threes or they just want
1:58:50
to get the dunk. But even watching your team again, very very tough.
1:58:54
How do you teach toughness in a day and age where you know there's
1:58:58
this isn't the day of the the Pistons, and it's not the day of
1:59:00
the eighties and the nineties basketball. It's a different basketball where sometimes we see
1:59:05
toughness does not show up in every level of basketball. I'll go back to
1:59:10
twenty seventeen eighteen, my first year. That group was extremely tough, physical,
1:59:15
dove on the floor for loose balls, took charges, things like that.
1:59:18
That's one thing that we preach from day one, from our drills that
1:59:23
we incorporate. We lift weights out of season three to four days a week.
1:59:26
We lift ways in season two days a week. You know, we
1:59:29
did it, you know before the state championship, you know twodays for the
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state championship game, you know, just to be able to provide that mental
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toughness because I know, especially on the basketball side, I think that gets
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overlook football. Of course, you got to lift weights to be tough,
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you know, in their mind, you know, but basketball it kind of
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gets overlooked. I think you need to be more skilled, then let's go
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live in the weight room, which I think there's some truth to that,
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but I also think you've got to have a good balance with that, you
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know. So we use a lot of our time on the floor skill,
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but we also use a lot of that time in that weight room just to
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just to build mental toughness. And of course we have so many drills,
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diving on the floor, taking charges, rebounding drills against one another, you
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know, where we're we're encouraging push, you know, shove, do things
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like that because if you can do it against that. Of course, in
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the game, most of the time you may get caught a foul. But
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you know, one thing that we try to do is teach not only physical
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toughness, but mental toughness as well. We don't like to complain to the
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referees or complain to teammates or when things don't go our way. You know,
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you have to be mentally tough to be able to win as well.
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When you look at college basketball. Of course, we'll have the NCAA tournament
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coming up here in the next few weeks. And I was just going through
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some bracketology in the first hour, and it's it's amazing to see, you
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know, some of these these teams that you see, like last year,
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for instance, you know, uh, San Diego State making the run of
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the championship game. We've seen your uc irvines and and you know non directional
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schools or directional schools. Now you know, sixteens beat one, fifteens beat
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two, and a lot of that is obviously churn, roster churn from a
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coaching aspect, if you just put your coaching hat on, we know,
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and you referenced about coaches leaving college and going to the nat Football leaguer here
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that basketball equally. I mean, you can have a roster turn of LSU
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a couple of years ago, I think it was they had eight to ten.
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I can't remember the exact number off that team. They had to go
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recruit new ones. I can't imagine me as hard as football is, basketball
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equally tougher, equally tougher. Yeah, and it's funny you bring that up
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about the smaller schools one of my good friends and coaching, Todd Abernet,
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that he's actually assistant at Florida Atlantic. You know, they made that incredible
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run last year. Sure, and a lot of the schools across the country
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came and tried to poach a lot of their players because they're at Florida Atlantic,
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and they got a lot of those guys to stay because of the culture
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that their coach builds, and everybody just raves about how good of a job
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he does it, making it feel like a family and things like that.
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So of course I think that's equally important. But I saw a tweet the
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other day. I wish I could remember. There was about seven teams on
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that list that were projected to make the tournament before the season, and they
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all had at least six or more transfers, and none of the seven were
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in the Bracketology is making the tournament. So it also shows that you can't
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just live and die by the portal either. You got to be able to
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recruit some of your own, keep them within your program, and then maybe
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you get you a piece or two to add to your team. But you
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can't have a team full of transfers and think you're gonna win a national championship
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or even compete for one. This is gonna be probably a weird question on
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basketball specific but we see it in the NBA, the you know, the
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the bigger and bigger player of the Euro game. College we see it too.
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And this to the normal basketball guy girl watching, They may not notice,
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but it is a different game. How much is the Euro game,
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if at all, affecting high school coaching and what you do you take anything
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from it? Is it? Is it a totally different type of deal?
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Does that make sense what I'm asking as far as style and coaching? Yeah,
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I mean, and I think that also goes back to what you allowed.
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You know, are you a team that encouraging? Like like you said,
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when you watch us play, we look a little different. One thing
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that we're gonna do every day in practice, we're encouraging get the ball out
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of your hands, get the ball on the floor. The ball is not
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gonna stick. E J. Payman averaged twenty one to twenty two a game
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for US. On most teams, he probably could have averaged twenty seven to
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thirty, but he knew he had to take a lesser role because Mikay Strong
2:02:59
or Kumyrius Loew or whoever it may be. They can go for sixteen or
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seventeen on any given nights. So we're gonna preach share in the ball,
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you know, get the ball out of your hands, don't be selfish,
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those things like that. Now, another reason is because they don't have a
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choice. Either they come sit by me or they can. Obviously they can
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figure it out because I know what it takes to obviously, you know,
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bring home a championship, and selfish basketball is not that. In the EuroLeague
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they do a good job. And of course I've had some guys go over
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and play overseas and they just talk about even the transition to that is a
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little different than the States because they play a different brand, a different style,
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and the ball pops, it moves, there's not a bunch of isolation
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one on one games and you know stuff like that. So there is a
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big difference. And you know, you can take that even into the CENCAA
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tournament. But maybe this is more cohesiveness like what you were talking about with
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Florida Atlantic. You'll see Kentucky they look amazing every year. John Kyler Perry
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does a great job with that program. But the roster churn is so high,
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whereas if you get an FAU or you get who knows, it could
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be I'm just sitting here look at some of these Grand Canyon. I mean,
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you know, you can kind of throw a dart at the dartboard.
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It could be McNee State, It could be one of these teams that we
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don't pay attention to this maybe had guys together. They can come up and
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knock off these teams. And I would think it would be maybe a little
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different brand of basketball, maybe a little you know, cohesiveness. There's a
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lot that goes in there, but we see more of that each and every
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year in this tournament. Yeah, and just to give you an example,
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that about Raymondhigh School. The two years we finished number one, we brought
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back four or five starters from the year before. It just makes us that
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much better. You don't have to teach experience, you don't have to teach
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a lot of the things that just become natural that next year. And a
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lot of your lower level schools, those kids aren't leaving McNeice to go to
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LSU. You know, they're not getting looked at by them. LSU is
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going to get the five star kid from California and Texas wherever, so that
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that kid or those kids are staying there, they're growing, developing. And
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that's one thing that made Jay Wright at Villanova good all those years when he
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used to win the national championships. He would have a lot of fourth and
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fifth year seniors, and of course they're able to make that run because the
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cohesive unit that they are compared to Kentucky, who may have John wall as
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a freshman, those type guys eighteen year old really good instead of twenty two
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year old mature ready to go like the Villanova teams of the past. Tony
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Tadlock head basketball coach Raymond four eight champions this year, Coach, I appreciate
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your time of us, good stuff. We'll do it again. Absolutely,
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Let's definitely do it again. Appreciate Chris Landry, Tony Tadlock, Doug Kyle
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jumping him. Every ketchup is King Bacon's a delicacy of Loho means goodbye.
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We'll have Kelly Ford in tomorrow. We'll visit in Startville, Oxford or other
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places as well. We'll carry you through the week. Have a great night.
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Good night,