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🎨 Creator Series: A Guy Trying – The Art of Creation and Community · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Where is ups Man?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll find out. I know you, I just who cares?
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: I love talking about me?
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  Speaker 1: What else would we talk about on the show, though,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's no news right now?
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  Speaker 3: That's true, it's a all.
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  Speaker 4: So are you saying we only invited him because we
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  Speaker 4: have nothing better to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: I'm no?
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  Speaker 3: That's what? Never? Why are you suppose? Why are you
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  Speaker 3: exposing us like this? I think the Creator series could
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  Speaker 3: be something very interesting? Right? But what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 3: I'm the one, the only Oh okay, I e one
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  Speaker 3: French fries short of a happy meal. No, Felix, he's
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  Speaker 3: out judging his new friends in his new game. Is
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  Speaker 3: he playing that game or no? Is he playing? I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, because like Felix, I feel like Felix plays
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  Speaker 3: seventeen different CCGs and I don't know how he does it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think play Riftbound competitively. But yeah
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  Speaker 1: he plays a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: He knows it. Why would you judge that game if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to play it competitively? But we have
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  Speaker 3: for the mistifits we do have here. We've got the
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  Speaker 3: guy who knows more than you, mister Cole Robbie yo yo,
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  Speaker 3: and that kid Dexter. Hello, everyone's I don't say dexter,
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  Speaker 3: that's you. And I figured we do something new now
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  Speaker 3: that we have a little bit of lull and we're
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  Speaker 3: kind of getting into the holidays, right, quick reminder and
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  Speaker 3: how we do holiday episodes the week of the twenty
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  Speaker 3: fifth and of the first, there will be no altered
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  Speaker 3: corner because those will be taking time off to spend
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  Speaker 3: precious time with our family. There's the holidays. It is
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  Speaker 3: the family season. If you're listening to a podcast, shame on.
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  Speaker 3: You go talk to your kids.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know I had any.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you don't go talk to your significant other.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have kids of your own. Talk to someone else's.
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  Speaker 3: Yah, talk to someone else. Just don't get caught because
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of frowned upon nowadays.
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  Speaker 4: But it's what I do all day.
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  Speaker 3: So on this episode of what I'm going to announce
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  Speaker 3: as the creator series, we bought on a guy trying.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on? Guy trying? Oh? Nothing much? Thank you
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  Speaker 3: so much for having me on.
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  Speaker 5: You guys are actually my number two podcasts and my
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  Speaker 5: Spotify wrapped.
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  Speaker 3: Who is number one? Those guys days, Gartha, No, they
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  Speaker 3: were number three. They're way better.
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  Speaker 5: Dungeons and Daddies a d podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's it's quite the name that I wish I would
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  Speaker 3: have thought of. That is quite the place.
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  Speaker 2: Is you guys?
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  Speaker 3: Oh nice, nice, nice, But we don't have some questions
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  Speaker 3: to go over. Before we get into our questions, I
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  Speaker 3: suppose we should pay some bills. Head over to the Patreon.
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  Speaker 3: You guys can get these semi early, sometimes not all
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  Speaker 3: the time. If you bug Coal enough, he'll bug me
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  Speaker 3: to edit and then I'll put it on. I'll get
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  Speaker 3: it to him. That's kind of how it works. You
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  Speaker 3: bug Cole, he bugs me, and then I do that.
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  Speaker 3: And if you'd like, it's gonna be some late nights
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  Speaker 3: for some of us going into the holidays, having to
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  Speaker 3: stay up till the wee hours of the morning gift
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  Speaker 3: wrapping press. You might need some W energy, so you
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  Speaker 3: to chug coffee, you can chug w.
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  Speaker 5: And isn't it true that that actually helps you draw
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  Speaker 5: better when you play TCGs?
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  Speaker 3: You know? I yeah, I didn't want I didn't want
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  Speaker 3: to go spread that around, but I've heard it does.
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  Speaker 3: Just saying and if you're really in the Christmas spirit,
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  Speaker 3: you can visit our possible you guys ready for this
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  Speaker 3: our possible new sponsor of the show. Are you guys
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  Speaker 3: ready for our possible new sponsor?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: Who do you mean? Alert? You guys can go check
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  Speaker 3: out Lord, I'm alert dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Are they actually sponsoring us, Wookie or you just keep
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  Speaker 1: trying to get this.
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  Speaker 3: Is well, it's it's in the talks, right. Sponsor might
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  Speaker 3: be a loose term. I might, I might because like,
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  Speaker 3: why does mal They've been around this long, why does
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  Speaker 3: Malert need us? Right, They're already a terrible alcohol that
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  Speaker 3: has survived like decades without us, So they don't need
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  Speaker 3: and like they do no advertising, they don't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: They're just around and known as just this terrible, awful alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: They don't really need us, right, So it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: a thing that I'm just like, look, can we just
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  Speaker 3: say we're sponsored by you? Get? We don't really expect anything, right,
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  Speaker 3: I just you know, it's kind of become it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of become a key Forge like badge of honor. Right.
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  Speaker 3: You know when we go to key Forge celebrations, I
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  Speaker 3: always pick out the foreigners and I I now what
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  Speaker 3: I am lovingly calling malerting them right we go? Do
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  Speaker 3: you go do a quote unquote shot with them and
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  Speaker 3: you're serving them alert and they look at you funny,
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  Speaker 3: except for the one Taiwanese kid who's like, I like
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  Speaker 3: it when everyone looked at him funny?
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  Speaker 5: Do these did these events exclusively happened in Chicago. I
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  Speaker 5: didn't know milort was the thing outside.
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  Speaker 1: Of the They're in Minnesota, but other people just bring malort.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, get the store. It's every You could literally
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  Speaker 3: buy it everywhere. All I have to actively search it.
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  Speaker 3: I went to Chicago once and my friend works at
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  Speaker 3: a bar there. I was like, you can't say you've
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  Speaker 3: been to Chicago until you've had a shot him alert.
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  Speaker 3: It's like okay. So I just didn't know it was
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  Speaker 3: a thing anywhere else. Yeah, this all started probably about
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  Speaker 3: two years ago when Sydney brought a bottle and tried
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  Speaker 3: to get everybody to take a shot. It might have
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  Speaker 3: been three years ago. It was like, everybody needs to
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  Speaker 3: do a shot him alert. And I looked at her
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  Speaker 3: and I said, no, no, dear, I respect myself so
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  Speaker 3: I won't be doing any of that, and then ended
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  Speaker 3: up drinking half a bottle later on. So but long
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  Speaker 3: story short, right, long story short. It's just become a
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  Speaker 3: thing now that we do. If I ever go to
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  Speaker 3: a large altern event, I will attempt to bring the
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  Speaker 3: tradition with me. I doubt it will go as well,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, it's It's one of those things now
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  Speaker 3: where you just you drink some alert and kind of
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  Speaker 3: do it. The next time Loki comes to town, you
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  Speaker 3: should try to get him to draw alert.
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  Speaker 4: How about you just leave that on the keyboard side
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  Speaker 4: of things and we'll be more refined over here on.
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  Speaker 3: Altered, more refined.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so, like Zambuca, I don't know what do you
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  Speaker 4: do any drinking while playing card games?
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  Speaker 3: Sir?
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  Speaker 4: Trying?
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  Speaker 5: I you know, I'm a garbage can on pretty much whatever.
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  Speaker 5: The only thing I avoid is gin personally.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair, but.
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  Speaker 5: That's just because some people my family don't like gin,
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  Speaker 5: and so I've just avoided it myself because of that.
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  Speaker 3: Jin and tequila I try to avoid at all costs.
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  Speaker 4: I think if there is an alcohol of Altered, it
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  Speaker 4: would have to be sake. So that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Loki loves sakes.
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  Speaker 3: It's just because.
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  Speaker 4: Hot or cold, usually cold, but they'll take it they'll
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  Speaker 4: take it either. I'm sure, yeah, yeah, I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: know this episode is not about Loki, but a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people might not know that he's like training to
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  Speaker 4: be a sake Somalia and stuff. Really he's he's very
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  Speaker 4: well versed in that alcohol and that is what is
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  Speaker 4: being consumed nine percent of the time at altered events.
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  Speaker 3: Sake. Hey, I'm I'm I'm training to become an alcoholic,
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  Speaker 3: as most Wisconsin people do.
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  Speaker 4: It's either that or just beer, lots of beer.
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  Speaker 3: Beer.
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  Speaker 4: And the French have beer. They they were drinking it
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  Speaker 4: a lot when they were here. Francois had the freaking
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  Speaker 4: yard or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe that's because they don't have it in French.
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  Speaker 3: That was gonna say. Maybe maybe they're like, oh beer,
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  Speaker 3: we can't get that where we're from, so let's drink up.
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  Speaker 3: Not that Germany is not like right next door to
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  Speaker 3: them or anything like right away.
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  Speaker 4: I think when I was in Paris it was sake,
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  Speaker 4: so that's what they mean. Or wine.
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  Speaker 3: Japan has significant ye wine. Wine would surprise me. But
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  Speaker 3: it's time to get into the bitter truths of all this.
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  Speaker 3: And I see that mister Cole Robbie has left out
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  Speaker 3: the most important questions, So we're gonna start with those first.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guy trying? All right, what is your favorite
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  Speaker 3: flavor of mountain dew? And I actually don't drink soda?
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, get him off the show. We can't air it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The only time I have soda is when it's mixed
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  Speaker 5: with alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, speaking of alcohol, So you only drink soda
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  Speaker 3: when you drink when you only as mixers?
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  Speaker 5: A yeah, it's actually pretty ironic. Uh, my dad was
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  Speaker 5: This is guya gett a bit dark, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: care about talking about it. My dad was an alcoholic
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  Speaker 5: and he went to rehab and I was drinking a
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  Speaker 5: lot of soda, so I gave up soda to as
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  Speaker 5: like a kid too, in solidarity with him. Okay, mine
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  Speaker 5: stuck a little better than his did. But but now
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  Speaker 5: the irony is I only drink soda when there's alcohol
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  Speaker 5: in it. When the whole thing was about me giving
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  Speaker 5: up soda was around giving up alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, sorry to bring up dark past. I
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  Speaker 3: don't even know. I'm very open about it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care and that we have that in common.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, what is uh what is your favorite girl
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  Speaker 3: scout cookie?
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  Speaker 5: Oh oh it's gotta be. What are like the shortbread ones?
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  Speaker 5: Short breads? Yeah, I'm a sucker for shortbreads are just
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  Speaker 5: called shortbreads.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, I'm not I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
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  Speaker 3: You guys are thin mint people. No, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: not me. Maybe Cole yep, Cole likes the thin mints.
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  Speaker 3: I am a Samoans guy. Or caramel delights all the way. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: caramel delights are good. Yeah, those are very those are
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  Speaker 3: the best, the best. And then another fan favorite of
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  Speaker 3: all time? What's your favorite pop tart? Ooh, I have
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  Speaker 3: to say I love the Smorest pop tarts. Okay, we
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  Speaker 3: can keep him. He's acceptable, we keep him around, all right,
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  Speaker 3: So two for three we'll take it is an acceptable answer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if fin mince is, but shortbreads are acceptable.
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  Speaker 3: But we did this to highlight creators in the space,
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  Speaker 3: right guy trying? What do you create in the space
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  Speaker 3: of altered besides an obnoxiously high rating on bg A Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I have a high rating on BGA.
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  Speaker 2: I'm righty of us for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but higher than three hundred is very high
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Oh great, Yeah, I think I'm at like four oh
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  Speaker 5: two right now.
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  Speaker 2: I create videos.
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  Speaker 5: I mainly started with deck guides, although I've been doing
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  Speaker 5: mainly news recently. And the thing that I'm most known
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  Speaker 5: for is the spoiler sheet, which every speeler season.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Twitch we one hundred percent abuse
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  Speaker 3: on this.
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  Speaker 5: I know, uh there, I will say I love spoiler
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  Speaker 5: season because everyone everyone's like, oh and thanks to a
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  Speaker 5: guy trying and to be like, oh, I do this
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  Speaker 5: for myself. I do not do this for the community.
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  Speaker 5: I want to know about all the spoilers. I just
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  Speaker 5: let you all in on my own OCD about collecting everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I've noticed another another thing about like Altered
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  Speaker 3: and our key Forge, there is both an un in
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  Speaker 3: both games have an unhealthy obsession with Excel sheets.
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  Speaker 1: Spreadsheets are great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something wrong with that. It's really unhealthy how
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  Speaker 3: much Altered players and key Forge players love spreadsheets.
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  Speaker 1: And all card game players love spreadsheets. We like to
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  Speaker 1: see the data.
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  Speaker 5: I've gotten into fights with people over fonts, Houston spreadsheets.
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  Speaker 3: I'm insane. Have you ever done because have you ever competed?
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  Speaker 3: And I forget what it's called. At one time I
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  Speaker 3: knew there is a competition for just spreadsheeting.
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  Speaker 5: Uh no, because I believe that's mainly about like the
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  Speaker 5: formulas and the organization of everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay with formulas.
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  Speaker 5: My I started making spreadsheets a while ago to consolidate
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  Speaker 5: information on Mafia and Werewolf games I was playing online,
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  Speaker 5: like over a couple of months. It was these games
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  Speaker 5: that people developed, and they would be up to seventy
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  Speaker 5: five people would be playing in one game. Oh wow,
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  Speaker 5: and so you'd be trying to track what everyone's saying
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  Speaker 5: and everything, and so you would make everyone would have
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  Speaker 5: their own spreadsheet to consolidate information. So it was not
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  Speaker 5: so much about formulas and functions, but just organizing information.
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  Speaker 5: And I always wanted mine to be aesthetically pleasing. So
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  Speaker 5: whenever I would join a team in one of these things,
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  Speaker 5: it's like, oh, yeah, we approve you can be part
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  Speaker 5: of our spreadsheet. I would immediately ask if I could
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  Speaker 5: change the fonts and make it pretty, because I didn't
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  Speaker 5: want to have their basic ass spreadsheets no time, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a lexand girly all lexends all the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy, I've never even heard of that font before.
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  Speaker 3: We'll check it out. It'll change your life. Go look
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  Speaker 3: at Eddie's spreadsheet. He's done.
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  Speaker 1: What? Oh okay, I just never knew the name of
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  Speaker 1: that font.
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  Speaker 3: Well it's in the top left corner, Sus Christ. So
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  Speaker 3: what other card games have you done?
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  Speaker 5: I've I've played a bunch of card games. I just
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  Speaker 5: I enjoyed tcg's so much. I started playing Magic and
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  Speaker 5: Yuki Oh and Pokemon as a kid. But I would
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  Speaker 5: hang out at my local game store in the mall,
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  Speaker 5: and I would spend any allowance I had buying starter
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  Speaker 5: decks or packs for random games. So I would learn
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  Speaker 5: a new game probably once a month, and the owner
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  Speaker 5: of the card shop was like, yes, you know, he
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  Speaker 5: probably played most of these games as well, so he
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  Speaker 5: would play with me if the store wasn't too busy. Recently,
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  Speaker 5: I play two major card games which are altered in
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  Speaker 5: Flesh and Blood, although I've dabble in Ribound Lorcana, a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of Star Wars and Limited and Oh God,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm oh Grand Archive. I think I'm
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  Speaker 5: missing a couple of others, but I just a one piece.
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  Speaker 5: I enjoy playing any card game. I enjoy games, some
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  Speaker 5: of them I devote more time to. But I'm always
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  Speaker 5: down to learn anything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've talked about and mentioned playing a lot of
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  Speaker 4: different TCGs. Have you has altered been the first one
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  Speaker 4: that you've really done a bunch of stuff for. I
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  Speaker 4: thought there was a time you said you did something
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  Speaker 4: for another game. Maybe I've made it up.
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  Speaker 5: I used it wasn't a training card game, but I
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  Speaker 5: used to be a tournament organizer for Pokemon video game
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  Speaker 5: and I although that was mostly online, and I made
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  Speaker 5: a couple of spreadsheets for that as well to consolidate
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  Speaker 5: release information once week, like when a new game came out.
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  Speaker 5: We're trying to collect all the stats for Pokemon. I
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  Speaker 5: was very into the Pokemon video games, but I'd never
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  Speaker 5: really played the card game that much. So that's probably
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  Speaker 5: the other game I've done the most for. The other
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  Speaker 5: game I played the most recently is Flesh and Blood,
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  Speaker 5: but I haven't done anything for that community other than
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  Speaker 5: my local game store f that community.
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  Speaker 3: That's why what's wrong with the Flesh and Blood community?
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  Speaker 3: What they do? I don't know just what.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to make any spreadsheets, so you know
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  Speaker 4: they ain't cool enough.
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  Speaker 5: I will say I was talking about this with someone
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  Speaker 5: that packed some plugged I love both Altered and Flesh
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  Speaker 5: and Blood. I think they have a lot of similarities,
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  Speaker 5: not in game design, but just in the way that
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  Speaker 5: the game plays out and incremental advancements over the course
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  Speaker 5: of a long game as opposed to winning in just
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  Speaker 5: one turn. But there's no way to play Flesh and
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  Speaker 5: Blood casually. You always have to feel like you're fully online.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard to play a game and feel okay, at
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  Speaker 5: least for me to really feel okay with losing, because
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: you're trying so hard, you're going back and forth so much.
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  Speaker 5: The one of the reasons I loved Altered so much
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  Speaker 5: is because I felt like I could have fun while losing,
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  Speaker 5: while still enjoying the game and try. I always try
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  Speaker 5: to win, but it didn't feel It felt like I
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  Speaker 5: could let my breath out and I didn't have to
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  Speaker 5: always be on and making every optimal decision.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how key Forge and Altered are for me.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm okay winning, I'm okay losing, and I still
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  Speaker 1: have fun. But in other games like Star Wars Unlimited,
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  Speaker 1: Flesh and Blood, Riftbound, if I don't win, I don't
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  Speaker 1: and have a good time.
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  Speaker 4: Are you sure you're okay not winning?
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  Speaker 1: Are you sure yeah, for altered in key Forge, I
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  Speaker 1: can still have a good time.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, you've never gotten upset at losing it altered.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: I said that I can still have fun. There are
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  Speaker 1: times that I will get mad and salty about losing
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  Speaker 1: a game.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I thought you got upset whenever
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: you lost every time. No, glad to know that you
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: can still have some fun.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: The whole idea of being able to have fun while
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: losing is just wild to me. I mean that's the
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: best way to be explain it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you can have fun while losing, then
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you have fun while winning, then what, well, you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: you're just always having fun.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I understand the idea. I just don't understand the plight
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: of like, yeah, it was fun even though I lost.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I had a good time because like usually it's like, ah,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: I hate losing. Maybe that's just the competitive nature in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: me that comes out fire too much. I just I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I have never been cool losing. Ever.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think it's also you know, depends
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: on what you're putting, what your expectations are going into
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: any match or game. I am you know, I knew
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: a lot of people who when we were going to
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: our local tumults, who were like, I need to win this,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: like I need to I will feel bad if I
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: if I don't win this, I'm going for number one
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: and nothing else, Whereas I I feel like if I
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: put that much pressure on myself, I'm going to crack.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to be able to properly function. So
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I just I aim for top eight, which is still
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I'm still trying, but and I get my point.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I go for top of faction, top eight and then
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: number one. But I'll be okay if I don't hit
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: number one. Whereas, uh, the first tumult I won, the
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: person who was going up against wanted so badly to win,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: and I kind of felt bad about winning.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I think that it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Happends a lot on the mindset that you have and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what you expect is going to happen, and how much
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: work you put in and practice. Yeah, because if you
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: put in a whole lot of practice, you're gonna want
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to win and feel a lot worse if you do lose.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But if you just like kind of casual and you
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: don't care, then it's not going to feel as bad.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I think that is a big testament to Alter though,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: is it is the type of game where when you're losing,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: it doesn't feel as bad as a lot of others,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: like even it's I don't know if I've ever maybe
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: once lost a game of Altered where I did like nothing,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: like you know, didn't move at least once or twice.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: But like I went to like a street Fighter tournament once,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: and the losing there is just like horrible because it's
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: like you're just getting your ass absolutely kicked, like left
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: and right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: They're like street Fight or the video game. Yeah, yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: you're a big fighting game. Dude, are you gonna cool?
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I'm just a big gamer, man.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I know, I get it. I don't know. Just like
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I said, I have done both. I have put in
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of time and effort to crash out, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I have put in zero time and effort to crash out.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: So both suck because you're in your hat either way
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: because you're like, man, if I only would have put
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: more time and effort, and then you're not thinking about that,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: oh that one time I put in all that time
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: and effort, I still crashed out. I don't know. Just
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: for me, I've I've had times where it's like, yep,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I just I was too far in front of the meta,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: or I was bad in the meta, or whatever the
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: case may be, and it's upsetting. And then I've had
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: times where it's like, yep, I'm playing something different. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: don't know. I never expect to win when I go
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: into something. Is that weird? That's not my expectation. But
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I guess my goal is always to at least top eight,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: which I don't do a lot either, so because it's
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'm literally I'm either second place or nothing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I will also say I haven't competed at any high
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: level in altered. My local nights are Monday and Wednesdays,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: so I've always I've never been able to do the
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: A Wall tournaments when they were running because it always conflicted.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I did not do any I did not do any
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: of the qualifiers, any qualifier that I would have been
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: able to participate in, such as like the BGA qualif fires.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Thankfully asked by the A Wall team to help do
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: some coverage, and then for the Baltimore qualifier, which was
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: at my local game store, I ran coverage for that event. Yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: games and stuff, I'm there, you know, Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Of course, of course they know Dom. What are you
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: talking about?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: We all know, well I know, but I'm just saying
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Dom is one of the one of ours. I was
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: gonna say, I keep meaning to uh ask Dom to
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: uh to teach me some KeyForge because I'm curious. Uh,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: but uh, he was busy with.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Key Forge worlds not too long ago and then has
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: been busy since with like holidays and stuff like that.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do ask about how I kicked his
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: ass and the sealed open. I will ask me about that,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: because I did, and I was not feeling bad about
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: it that day because I had O to the day
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: previous and I was like, come here, don let me
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: teach you something. And I'm sure to relive that. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: was gonna say I was.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I was. You know.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: It was funny because we we hung out with him
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: a lot when we were in Baltimore for the Vault
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: tour and we went we went to a place I
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: can't remember the place it was called, but where we parked.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: We had to walk through the hood right and not
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: a very you could tell, not great part of town
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: right and wherever Baltimore to get there, and then he
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: tried to lead us back to the car to the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Korean karaoke place. He's like, that place is great, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I am not walking back there because everybody
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Of one Korean karaoke place. But it's not like I
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: wouldn't say it's in Baltimore proper.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I don't think it. I don't think we were in
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know where we were, to be honest with you.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: We were just in a place and all I know
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: is we were walking past and I was pretty sure
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: someone was laying on the sidewalk dead, and I'm like, oh, Lauren,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: we should not be here.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: This is bad.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I guess you kind of get used to stuff because
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: I like, I was born in Baltimore County, and I've
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: lived in proximity to Baltimore most of my life, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I've lived in Baltimore City for like, I don't know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: ten years or something like that of yours.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: So you kind of just get used to things. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: would say, is this just a common occurrence?
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I was talking to a friend of mine in Utah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: where it's like, oh, yeah, you would feel He was like, oh,
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: I went for a late night walk at like three am.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: I was like, that's insane. I would never do that,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: even though I live in a nice part of Baltimore.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I would never do that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And he was like, I I just didn't realize that
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: other people don't worry about that type of stuff.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimorre's a great place.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we're walking by and I'm just I'm just looking.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Here's a lady's she has a shoe right, just one,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, she's dead. Like she's
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: she's dead, she's not moving. It's it's it's a million
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: degrees outside, right, it was. It was hot, and I'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, she's dead. And the other
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: three guys are so far in front of me as
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: we go to this I guess it's like a it's
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: a cocktail bar of someplace. I can't remember where it was.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a pinky's up joint, but yeah,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I was just like and then we were like, oh,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: we're gonna go do karaoke and Dom's like, yeah, there's
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: this place right up the street here. I'm like, we're
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: not going back that direction. You must be crazy, sir.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Did you see the lady laying on the ground? And
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: He's like oh no, I drove here and I was like, exactly, So, yeah, oh,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: all right, this is Cole's question. I'm gonna let cold
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: do it have at it?
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Who is your daddy and what does he do? That
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: was a terrible Arnold Swartzenegger.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: It was. It was very terrible. Actually, probably one of
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: my worst.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: So I when I saw the show notes for this,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I thought the show notes were calling me daddy for
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: a second, and I was like, I'm not sure if
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I feel comfortable with that the show notes and I
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: aren't that comfortable. I don't know you show notes, uh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: And I mean I already talked about my dad a bit.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Do you just want to be my therapy session for
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: the week?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Why not? What?
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: The only reason I put that is because Bookie's always like,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: you got questions you want to ask him? And I
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: just put the gift of kindergarten cop where it's like, who's.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Your daddy and what does he do? Who's your daddy
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and what does he do? There?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You go?
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: And so that's that's the only reason that was there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, we got some questions. I've been I
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: don't know about you guys. I work retail, I don't
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: think anyone else here works retail, so like I have
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: been currently, Yeah, every job, yeah, well get to it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: But everything right now is super busy for me because
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I do work retail, so it is everything is just
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: everything's a killer right now.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I've worked all kinds of retail.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, have you have sold I sold yourself.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Technically, isn't capitalism always selling yourself?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty much? You sold yourself to Equinox. Have they just
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: hired you yet?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: No?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I worked at Walmart. Can't really sell yourself more than
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: that now, throwing trucks shes.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: There you go, All right, guys trying What are you
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: playing right now? I assume you mean in Altered? In Altered,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I'm basically exclusively playing the deer. I feel like I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: love the deer, So I've only the people at my
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: store for the most part. There's no real tournaments or
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: anything happening right now. We're in Not only are we
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: in a lull right now in the holiday season, but
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: we're kind of in a lull season in general after Worlds,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: because we're still waiting for Said five and the return
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: of Tumults and the introduction of the new organized play
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: system and just more details on that, but we've kind
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: of all been trying to only play the six new
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: heroes and figured them out. I've played mainly Cowie and
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: the Deer, but the Deer most of all. I stole
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Rinku's deck from an invitational that Cole did you host?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: That one?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: The one he won Ace with got Top Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: It was only set for heroes, so I just stole
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: that and have been trying to pilot it and sort
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: of figure it out. And I think the Deer is great.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's necessarily the most meta viable, just
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: because the original eighteen heroes a lot of them are
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: very strong, but he's so much fun to play. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: love Nader so much.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have any ideas on what you think
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: would make a dear more viable?
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: The main issue that I've had with Nader is a
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: lot of his synergy shut off in the arena because
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: there are no longer any additional regions. So Matt Maker's boon,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: which gives you two boosts normally, but if there are
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: three single regions face up, it gives four boosts. Very
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: good card, but in the arena it gives you nothing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I mean it gives you two boosts, but it's understand
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: for that and Lyre aerialist where Lyra alial list is
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: the same. So you really just can't win the arena
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: very well, so you either have to really win early on,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: which kind of makes him a bit more agro than
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: I think he's necessarily intended to be. But I don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: know exactly what he needs because any anything that would
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: help with the arena feels like it would be antithetical
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: to his design.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Anyways, Yeah, it's kind.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Of really hard as well. I was casting the what
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: was it one of the recent tournaments. I can't remember
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: if it was with the Spaghetti Team or it was
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: The Weekly, but there was a Nider that was going
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: against a Rin and a wonderful way to shut down
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Nader is by saying, I don't care if you mark
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: this mountain. It's forced now.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a very interesting matchup, just because you can
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: try and change the regions to screw them over, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: they have enough toys to just change your right back.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: It is interesting, an interesting hero for sure, very cool
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: lawer wise, but lookie never lets us read the lore,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: so we don't we don't know Nada game has.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Anyone.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I hate to say that it might have the best
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: law of ANYTCG ever, but.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It does for sure. I would agree with you on
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that one. Now, Magic used to have some pretty good lore,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: and now all they're worried about is other other Yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Spongebarty pretty much.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't care about their own I p. They
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: care more about integrating other ips into theirs. I used
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: to buy the books for.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Back with those flat packs came with the books.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: And I and I would read the books and I
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: loved the lore. And you know, now I don't know
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: what they're doing.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody does. They're just like, hey,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: you guys like shinies and everyone's like yeah, they're like
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: we're going to release new ones, and everybody just like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: here's a shut up and take my Yeah. I don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: understand Magic Soluras sometimes still like some of it's kind
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: of cool, but it's just like, man, nothing, nothing's better
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: than having your own sweet sick lore and then having
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: you know, aang next to it. You know, that's not
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: nothing against Last Airbender and all that jazz, But like,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Know, Yes, it's kind of this year feels like it
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: was almost designed for me to start playing Magic. One
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: of my favorite video games series of all time is
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Final Fantasy. My favorite TV show of all time is
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: The Last Airbender. But I don't care about them in Magic.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, that's fine, but I would rather Magic
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: just do their own thing.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: It's Magic.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: The two the two games I play the most are
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Altered and Flesh and Blood, two games that are trying
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: to create their own IP instead of building off someone else's.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: We see a lot lot of games right now that
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: are just you know, propped up by their own IP.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: For example, Riftbound could could be the worst game ever
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: and it would still succeed to a certain extent because
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: of the IP. I'm not saying it is I think
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I think Riftbound is fine. It's not my favorite game,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: but I still think it's fun.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But because of the league IP it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Is able to it would be able to survive much
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: longer than a game of the same mechanics if it
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: was the worst game ever that was based off of
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: no IP right and the same thing with like Lorcana.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: I I have always been a big Disney fan. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: played Lorcana when it came out. I think the gameplay
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: was fine, but it was kind of uh, it wasn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: in it. It wasn't necessarily innovative or anything like that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: I think the main the best thing about it is
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: that in multiplayer everyone's playing the entire time, someone doesn't
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: die and then have to wait thirty five minutes until
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: the game is over. But other than that, I think
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: it's just adequate. But the IP is shouldering the burden
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: of the gameplay, which, you know, I get capitalism, we
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: need to make money, but I like I like a
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: game where they are designing something themselves and you can
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: tell that it would that whatever is being made was
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: made for this medium, made for this specific game, as
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: opposed to being torn from something else and tried to
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: shove into the correct hole to make it fit kind
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: of into this new game.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: So what would you say? You said, you play a lot,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: you've played a lot of CCGs and CCGs. Which one
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: was your favorite, living or dad of all time?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Hmmm?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Gameplay wise?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Gameplay wise, my favorite probably has to be Flesh and Blood.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's incredibly finely tuned. There's a lot of
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: chance for player skill expression. There isn't as much chance
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: for you to low roll. I mean, we're still playing
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: trading card games, so there's still randomization in like where
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: your deck, like what cards you draw and what cards
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: your opponent draws. But it's nowhere near as bad as
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: something like Magic, where you can get maniflooded or manuscrewed.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: But so I think it's my favorite gameplay wise, I don't,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: and I play it a lot, but I'm not sure
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: it's if it's necessarily my favorite game of all time.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I really, I really do enjoy Altered It's Uh. It's
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: one of the reasons I started making content for it
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: is because I just really enjoyed the game, and I
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: kind of wanted to share that with other people. If
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: there was one game you could bring a dead card
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: game you could bring back? What card game would you
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: bring back?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Magi Nation? Oh my god, it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: What I heard?
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I heard Dexter leave the house, bro, Come on, do
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: some research. Google is a thing. Just google Magi Nation.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: We've talked about magination, yeah, but here.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But not in like a way that I would actually
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: know what it is. We've mentioned the name, yes.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't know imagination is a lifestyle. No,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: Didn't play much Magi Nation. It was one of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: games where I had two like starter decks and I
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: had a couple of booster bracks. I'd like used my
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: allowance to get it, and I would basically go to
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: school and try and force my friends to learn this
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: game and play with me because I was like, ooh,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: this is interesting. But I never played it to the
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: same extent that I played Yu Gi Oh or Magic
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: or Pokemons because there wasn't the same community around, at
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: least that I knew of. But it's one of the many,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: many TCGs that I tried during the TCG bubble, like
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: prior to the TCG bubble of everyone releasing TCGs, that
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: I actually remember. It sticks out my mind to this day.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: And it might also be because you guys have mentioned
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: it a number of times on the podcast, and I
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: do try and listen to every episode, so I would
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: love to try it again, and I did hear it's
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: coming back, but I have no idea. I haven't followed
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: anything aside.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I haven't either. Very similar to you, I wasn't huge
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: in Imagine Nation, but I had a couple people at
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: the store because gen con believe it or not used
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: to be in Milwaukee and it debuted there and they
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: were giving a bunch of stuff out, and I just
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: had friends that, like we all had just maybe it
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: was just because we all had starter decks and it
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: was all very balanced because none of us really put
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: any money into it, right, So it was just like
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: all probably like super weirdly balanced, and it just was
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: always a blast to play. I didn't even know that
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: there was like a video game or TV series for it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I knew there was a series, I didn't know there
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: was a video game. It was like a game Boy
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Advanced Gamer. So okay, that very well could be see.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I should ask I should ask Felix that question too.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: That'd be a good question for Felix. What game would
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: he bring back? I mean, I no offense to you three.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I was hoping Felix was going to be here. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: thank you. You're just me from now on right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: I But I was at Packed Plugged and I saw
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Cole and Dexter, and I saw Felix at one point,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: and we had met at gen Con this year. But
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he knew, Like I knew who
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: he was, but I'm not sure if he knew who
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I was Because I'm not sure if I introduced myself
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: as a guy trying, uh, but I went. I saw
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: him working the Riftbound booth, but he was so busy
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: that I didn't get a chance to say him, whereas
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: like Cole and Dexter, I had no problem interrupting them.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Felix was super busy every time, even when
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: I would go bug him.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Well, you you guys weren't doing Riftbound right. You guys
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: are doing something completely You guys are doing Marvel something
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: rather right. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: And also we were all.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Next to us, do Lord of the Reeks.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: You're like Lord of the Ranks.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: They they decided their rift Bound staff for gen Con
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: like super pretty early.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: So there was and also it was like through like
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: it's been distributed through UVS or something like that, so
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: they were using people who've worked on.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: The staff from UVS. And since Felix has worked with
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: UVS for a while, Yeah, he was a chew one man.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I got to get into all these things that you
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: guys do. I don't get to go to nearly enough conventions,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: and you guys get to like go to all these
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: conventions and work them and have fun. I've never worked
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: at one. I've never worked at one either. I've just
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: gone and annoyed people while they're working.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: That's my main.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Thing that I do a convention is distract people.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: The fun usually comes after the convention and not actually
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: at the convention.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I have worked the convention. Right, Well,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: you are you working the whole time. You don't get
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: to go like pulp around, talk to anybody, see anything,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: doing it. I guess I don't know how it works.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Most of the time. Yeah, this most recent time was
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: the technically the least I've ever worked at the convention.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: But a lot of the time you're working open to
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: clothes basically.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, but you get like a couple hour breaks that
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: you can use for like lunch, dinner, or to run
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the hall.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Uh no, not really just lunch break, but yeah, just
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: a one hour lunch break which goes very quickly. I
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: just know Cole you you took me to what was it, Gudnack, Yeah, goudnack, Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: And then I saw you.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: I walked over to you guys testing on flesh and blood.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: That was a Sunday, right, Yeah, Sunday was a really
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: short day. But yeah, it's usually I work a lot
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: more hours than I did for Marvel, but they're yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: they just didn't eat us for very many hours.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: The setup was actually really nice because I thought they
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: were going to be running both events back to back,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: but it was just sequential.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: So the morning was working at them, right, because they
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: basically pay you to get there, pay you to get
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: home and your hotel and all that jazz.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Right if you're lucky.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so all your time is spent just working
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, and.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: It's interesting point is working and having a job, No,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: that I.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Understand, But if it were like someone like, you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know, just doing get off the norm, you know,
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if that's your job, then I understand, right,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Like that's that's what you do. But I know a
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: lot of out there do this as like a way
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to get there. So and I've always wondered about I've
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: always had questions about it. I don't know much about it.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: There's definitely a lot of different companies that you can
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: work for that do similar things, and I'm sure there
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: are other ones that give you a lot more free time.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: So if there's people that like just want to do
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it for a way to get there for cheap and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: don't really care about I don't know, getting paid for it,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and they just want like time to spend at the convention.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: They could probably find a way to do that.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: There's people that just slack off more than me and dexters.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are those people.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: So you guys are the hard chores.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Don't work.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually do our jobs, suckers.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Suckers.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in the crew that's usually helping tear down
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: and stuff too. And sometimes people will just disappear. Well yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I mean if you get in with a company that
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: pays for travel and your hotel, then everything else is
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: really just a benefit. So people just go because it's
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: the only way they can go to a convention where
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: they go to make a bunch of money to buy
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: a bunch of board games and you know whatever. You
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: may want different strokes for different folks.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: As they say, you got it, you got it all right?
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: What do we got here? Last question? If we're ready
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: for all of this, actually we got a little bit
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: to go. What did h is the last big question?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Last big question? What did HGA not ask you that
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you wish you talked about?
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: I would say that I'll tell you something that they
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: wanted to ask me but forgot to during during the
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: during the interview, we had talked about it a little
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: bit pre show, and they want to ask me about
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: my uh why I got into content creation because we
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: had talked about it a bit, and I I have
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: two useless degrees in musical theater and acting for film.
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: And in my acting for film program, I had to
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: learn how to edit and shoot and you know, do lighting, sound,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: all that stuff. And one of the main reasons I
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: got into content creation was because I wanted to try
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: and challenge myself with editing. So a lot of my
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: videos have some sort of challenge that I'm trying to
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: do to myself to practice editing normally. Hopefully those aren't
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: parents to the viewer, but it's uh. I always try
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: and try something new that will flex a different muscle
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: in editing when I do then and again, I love
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: the game, and I made a bunch of spreadsheets and
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: people like, oh, we like this information, why don't you
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: talk about it? So I decided to do that. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: that is something that we had talked about in the
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: pre interview for Hero's Guy Tis Gartha and they said, shit,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: we forgot to ask.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: It them slipping again?
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Slipping again.
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: I mean it's Chili and Nick that are always slipping.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yep with those not hard to get off topic?
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you I've done a couple of episodes.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: It's not hard to get off topic quickly.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Well we we can't talk about getting off topic. We're
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: never really on topic.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: But it's my aid, are you making fun of my adduh?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Well no, because I also am dia against all of us,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: so I mean making fun of me? Also, what fun
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: is it to just be you knowboard?
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. What
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: is one thing you wish people knew about you? Oh?
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: Let's see, uh, the one thing I wish people knew
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: about me?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: When I was a kid, I was convinced I was
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: part fish because I like to swim in the ocean
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: more than anyone else in my family, and then yelled
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: at my family for eating fish. And to this day,
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: I still don't like the taste of fish. I think
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: a lot of that has to do with a psychological
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: barrier I put on myself when I was convinced I
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: was part fish.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: So that's I love swimming in the ocean too, swimming
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: in the ocean's grade.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: But I never thought I was a fish.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, obviously there's a lot of things that as
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: a kid. I I My sister's four and a half
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: years older than me. So when I was one, she
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: was five or six, you know, depending on the time
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: of year. And when I was five, she was nine
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: or ten. And I thought, oh, she used to be
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: five times older than me. Now she's only twice as
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: old as me. Someday I'm going to become the older sibling. Yeah,
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: because the dapple get shorter and short, and then I
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: will become older. There's a lot of things that I
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: just thought of and I was like, yeah, that sounds
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: about right, And I didn't.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Think a lot of thought. I think a lot of
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: younger siblings have that same thing, like one day I
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: want to be older, and then you just kind of
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: like as the I'm the oldest for siblings. And I
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: know for a fact my younger brother one time was like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: one day I'm gonna be the older sibling. And he
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: was in middle school and I was in high school,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, that's not how time works.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: But it's the same thing.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: I saw my family on the beach. When I went
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: to be in the ocean, I ignored everyone else in
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: the ocean that was out there as well, and I
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: was like, I'm special and I must be part fish.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: It's the only thing that made sense to me.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: It's the only option.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I was like, I will, I will research this note further.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: I have found I've made my hypothesis, and I assume
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: it's true.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: I I you know, who's to say that you aren't
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: part fish?
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Don't you start? I swear if the movie Luca came
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: out when I was a kid, I would have been like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: this is my life story, this is me, this is Luca.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: If you you just heard that saying, uh, he loves
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: the water so much, he's part fish or whatever that
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: people used to say, and you were.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Just like, I am, I am, that's right?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Who told you?
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I do?
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: See? We have a question? Uh in the chat?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Am I supposed to acknowledge that?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, chaos, that's fine.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: What is one change you would make to each faction?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask a question similar to this,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: all right, what was your question? Mine was what is
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: your biggest criticism of Equinox to the state, Oh, different question,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: fair I similar ish.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: I'll say, uh, I think that Equinox has designed a
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: game that with each set has become better and better.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: But the main thing that they really mess up is
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: communication with their community, and they rely too They relied
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: too much on their community to pick up the slack
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: for them. The tournaments run by such teams as AQZ
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: and a Wall are what have propped up the game
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: and given it the life that it has because it
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: has kept the community engaged competitively when Equinox was not
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: giving us the same opportunities. Until you know, we start
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: having the qualifiers and worlds. We had the tumults, but
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: that's you know, that's a local metagame, not a more
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: like global one. And I think they have a great
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: community to rely on, but I think they have at
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: times become complacent with that and slacked on some of
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: the work that they should be doing themselves.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: You say that about Equinox, you should see Ghost Galaxy.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I think a great job.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: I will say, I do not think that Equinox is
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: the worst defender in TCGs for this or anything like that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I think I think this is a very common occurrence
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: for many many producers of TCGs. Communication is a big issue,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and yeah, something needs to be done, but.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like, you know, they really screwed up with that
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: initial message. I understand what they were trying to go
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: for about the you know call what have you called it?
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: Bloody Monday.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what people started calling it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that that message. I understand what they were trying
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: to go for it with.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: It, but the way that it came out it was
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: far too alarmist.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: It really it really did not hit what they were
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: going for, and it scared more people away than yeah, uh,
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: than it motivated them. But again I understand that, like
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: that was not their intention. They but they really There's
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: been other times where they've missed the mark on communication.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think any want any moment has been as
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: bad as that personally, but I do think it's their
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: weakest point. I think they have a team that has
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: amazing designers on it. They're a small team comparatively. I
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: know there's smaller teams out there, but there's also much
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: bigger teams out there.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: And I think the communicate, the communications people on their
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: team are overworked a lot, I feel, and uh, they
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: and stuff slips through the cracks. That's them.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: They should hire a community manager.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, are you trying to get I wonder what if we.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Were it's not the community manager?
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Oh true? If if if we're a North America community manager,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: what would his name be?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Cole Bobby?
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you have rhymes with that Felix.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: Felix.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: Cole is someone who has been you know, he's he's
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: the lot of many jokes he uh and the community
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: likes to make fun of him a lot. But I
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: do think it's also.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Important that we acknowledge the amount of effort and care.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: He's put into the community.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: So as much as we like to joke around with
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: Cole Robbie, I'm going to take a serious moment here
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: and say Cole, thank you for all you've done for
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: the Ultra community. It has been you've put more of
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: yourself into the community then you might have gotten out
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: of it, which I think we should thank you for.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, thanks, I appreciate it. Now I have
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: the power to go piss off one more person in
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Discord in the next seven days. So Loki is the
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: community builder. But I did not renew Moon's contract. He
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: has had to kind of do both. His His job
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: is or was supposed to be more like things like
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: the hive and convention work and things like that, and
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: a community manager just interfaces with the community a lot
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: more and was running like the social media and stuff,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: you know, So they technically do not have a person
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: that does that anymore. So like sometimes Talia will have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: to hop on and like do twee and things like that.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's low key, so it just depends.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: And to be fair, Josh Josh Massey was uh was
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: not a community manager. He was in charge of op
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: now another that translated into we also need you to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: tweet out some things. That's very possible. But his official
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: title was not community manager, was head of organized play.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: But that's a story for another time. All right, back
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: to this, all right, so what would you what is
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: one change you would make for each faction? I It's oh,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: that's hard.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Axiom has always had a dual identity issue where they
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: are both focused around reserve and landmarks and never sell
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: the two meat there. Try and bridging that gap with
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: East three, but it still feels like there's kind of
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: two factions that were with an Axiom. Bravos Bravos is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: the new ortis, I'll say it Ortis had everything to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: begin with, and ever since Bravos has gotten stronger and stronger,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: and now it has so much is so many good
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: cards in it. I wouldn't change necessarily anything about Bravos,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: except I mean, you could change the hunger. I know
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: people have been calling for that. I would rather raise
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: other factions power level to that.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: Lyra.
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  Speaker 3: I think Lyra.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I love Lyras so much, although I love it for
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: different reasons than you, Wookie. I do not like dice
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: rolling mechanics, which I know you do well. I'm again
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: that's when you if you made a faction that says
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: roll dice, and I'm like, yes, I love Lyra for
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: everything but rolling dice. I love every other aspect of Lyra,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: which is weird because I don't typically play the dice
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: rolling hero. I typically I do, and I typically play
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Fenn in what I normally play. But I love Fenn. Fenn.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Fenn was my one was my one true love. Now
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to deer, but Fenn will always have such
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: a place in my heart. The thing it's weird is
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: mere to me when I think of like what faction
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: I gell most it's ismir, But I play so much
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: more Lyra than I do Ismir. Like I'm Ismir in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: the main discord, but I place. I barely play Ismir.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Same I.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Play Ismir and Lyra. I play all the cars, I
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: play Magical training, off you Go.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I just play.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Removal in Lyrah. But yeah, Muna, I think they're on
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: the right track. I'm glad that they're giving them more
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: removal and sabotage. I think that's been hurting the faction.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited for the new hero.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, I I think that's so.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: I think the design is so cool. The main problem
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: I have with the new hero is that it's made
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: me feel less inclined to build Cowerie. Yeah, because I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: feel like there's a lot of times where calorie decks
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: that I might build might just be better as the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: new hero y.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Ortis.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: I'm glad that they're searching for new identities outside of
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: tokens and just generic good stuff. Sigasmar will always be
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: powerful though, because Ortis has access to good cards, and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: Sigismar is just land white bread toast that can you know,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: fit any type of deck that you're trying to make.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: And Ismir I would like what I really want is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: I want a mechanic that.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Similar to.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: That says if I am a spells that says if
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: I am fleeting, you get some bonus. So that way,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: if you play off you go for two, you know
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: you get the value. But maybe off you go for
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: four from reserve it has fleeting, Uh it gets it
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: targets four or less instead.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: I think that would be a cool mechanic, but that's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: not necessarily an identity shift in.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Ismir.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: I think the factions are very well crafted. I would
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: just like to see expanding of archetypes. So I have
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: trouble answering the question. I'm gone on a lot and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think I've gone anywhere with it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Someone will, someone will, you know, pick it apart and get.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Bird tribal juicy stuff out of day. So smart bird tribal.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: I would love to see, like more more tribal stuff.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, I really? I made two.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Artists tribal decks when Whispers of the Maids came out,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: one for Rock and one for Fen, both revolving around
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: the stage. I don't think either of them were that great,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: but they were fun. Yep, alrighty, what else you got
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: in there?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Cole really just to wrap up the conversation and kind
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: of prepare us for most likely January. Is talking a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: little bit about the next set Seeds. You've made the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: sheet already. I think you made it when like the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: very first thing was even referenced, right.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean technically I had the template ready before
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: any Seeds of Unity stuff was announced, and then I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: had Set five reveals and then one. As soon as
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: things started coming out, I just started filling in. But
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: I already have a spreadsheet ready for Set six. Nice,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: So so you know, here's hoping we uh get to
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: see some exciting stuff from that. But Set five is
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: the thing that's coming up.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have the sheet, I've made the Bengo board.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: I need to make my own though, I need to
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: fill it out.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: If you think it's going to be weird this set, Yeah,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: we have. We have about forty of the cards already
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: shown to us.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: Oh is that the percentage we've already seen?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: We we've had forty nine cards revealed and we have
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: fifty nine more to go.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I guess I technically did help reveal
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: a couple of them. So I'm part I'm part of
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: the problem.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: I I mean, I think for seats worlds, there have
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: no not been any content I didn't correc I couldn't
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: remember if it was this sart our last sight we
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: did our reveal for no I finally cracked that top
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: top forty three. Uh you know, content creators were altered.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: You see, I'll be honest.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: That's the real reason I make the spreadsheet is I've
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: slowly snuck my way into being kind of synonymous with
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: spoiler season, and now they have to give me.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: A spoiler card.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: So I.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Snuck my way in. Yeah, we got one last time.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: We'll see if we get one again.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Hopefully not, but hopefully not. I'm taking the reins this time.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: I'm doing one because I didn't do one last sex
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: because I got one for the podcast.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: But you got one for like the other two sets.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Just one.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I've only had one reveal, only one reveal.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I thought you had two.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it got ruined. But that's a.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: There was a unique because the Uniques, which wasn't a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: very interesting moment in reveal season. I will say, as
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: someone trying to collect data for the spreadsheet, it was
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: very hectic and my card was technically spoiled. Two hours
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: before uh my video was supposed to go live for
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: that set, Cole, you had to sort of shift your
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: reveal for like a week or something, didn't you.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I was at.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was at Packs yeast when it, technically I
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: think got revealed because we that announcement happened while we
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: were at Packs and all of this were like what
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: the And then Yeah, I had to change up everything
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: and do something a lot quicker than I would have wanted.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: I will say so big, it's gonna be weird because
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: we already have so much information, so it's kind of
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: hard to make really kooky.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Bingo guesses.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: But I do think it was correct of them to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: show a good amount of the set because of the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: game found. If they are asking people to pledge their money,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: we have three out of the six Exalted cards. I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: think we might I think it would have been good
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: if they showed all six. I understand that they want
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: to save more exciting stuff for the for when the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: spoiler season happens in.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: January, but.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: If you're asking someone to pledge their money to a set,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's good that people. I think people should
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: know what they are pledging for and what they are
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: hoping to get out of this set.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think honestly that there would have been no
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: issue revealing all of the Exalted because there's going to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: be a lot of excitement trying to just pull them
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: and pull like the different yep, all right styles of them. Yeah,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: if I could, if I could go back in time
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: and you know know what I know now or think
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: about it. When we revealed the Squid Guy at Worlds,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: I've been like, we should just reveal more Exalted instead,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't remember if the timing even
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: lined up.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, again, they have three left, so I really think
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: they just want to I would imagine those will be
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: the first three cards that Equinox themselves revealed during the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: reveal season because they want.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: To get it kicked off with some momentum.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: I don't have any information about that, but that would
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: be my speculation.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: We just know that reveals these than is in January,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: and that's about as much as we know. But even
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: though we know forty percent of the cards and some
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: other things, what, what are you really looking to see
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: next set that hasn't been revealed?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: Oh well, it's kind of been revealed. The the alternate
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: arts for the heroes. We have art, we have like
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: a product art that shows a different style of Nadir
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: and Moyo, and so it's like those are most likely
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: going to be the alternate arts. It would be weird
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: if they weren't the what are they called envoy arts.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: But we have not seen anything for Trun and Benny,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: I believe, and that would be great to see. And
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: then I would like to see I think I'd really
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: like to see.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Just cards that.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: Were I really want cards for a deer. And we
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: have the contact mechanic, which will be interesting. Maybe I'll
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: finally give Western Wins some reason to be played. But
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: contact and the deer seems to be two different mechanics
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: to me right now. So I'm wondering if we will
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: see more instances of where we can give the deer
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: markers or manipulate region markers.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you would think it's you know, a shoe in
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: to have a couple more cards to move markers or something.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they seem to be.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: It seems like what they've shown us so far, and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: again it's only about forty percent, is more focused on
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: you moving expeditions so that you place your markers down
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: and then you constantly try to move back into them
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: when it benefits you, as opposed to recreating markers, which
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: might be the design that they are being to go for.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: You know, having too many markers might not be healthy
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: for the hero design. So maybe this is a happy compromise,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: but we'll see.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it gives me an idea I've I've always kind
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: of adamantly been against like factionless or you know, no
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: colored cards, whatever you want to call them. But it
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: would actually be super cool to have a Nadeer style
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: ability or a card lyra that just negates all regions
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: of you know, a certain area, so it's just pure
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: stats basically, like.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting whatever.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: Whoever has one highest stat would win that. I mean,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: they'd worried it much better than I just did. But
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: that could be. That could be something kind of cool.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the problem is I think that'd be
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: worse for Nader.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just because like you know, you look at
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: forest nymph, which is three zero zero. You look at
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: any of the nymphs, they are overstated in their region
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: and their region alone. But if you were to but
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: in total stats, they're massively understand which is why he
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: struggles so much in the arena in tiebreakers, because not
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: only are your stats all over the place, but you're
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: kind of below rate overall. Cards from older sets like
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Hathor and Snowball Commando have a bit more even stats
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: across the board, but they but the Nader specific cards
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: that were or at least the UH support package for
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: in a Deer from Skybound Odyssey technically has lower stats overall.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I feel like if you were to even everything out.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: My my little wacky but I got what what you're saying. Good,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: good points indeed, But.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, good, someone has to because I have no
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: idea what I'm saying.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: You're just you're throwing throwing terrain markers. Hey, but we're
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: getting up.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Here on tonight. Make sure you go alter.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: There is one question though, is that from that this week?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there is one question. Okay, we'll try to
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: answer it as quickly as a question from the Patreon
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: again call needs your dollars. Go give Cola buck.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: I do I give Cola dollar every single month? You too,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: can ask us a question on Patreon if you could
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: design an altered card, what would it be? From gav Kenny,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: we'll let the guest go first.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: I feel like this is a trap because Gave Kenny
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: is my nemesis. Oh yeah, we are artist enemies. We
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: both draw so well that we are only matched by
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: each other's prowess. I would say, if I could design
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: an altered card, what would it be. I have to
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: like designed a couple altered cards in my head. What
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 5: I really want is I want a hero that their
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: main mechanic is destroying their own manna and they get
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: some benefit from it. So it's like a phoenix or something,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: and every time you destroy your own manna through like
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: mana eruption or similar effects, you get an ash counter,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: and then at five ash counters or something, you get
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: to take a character from your discard and played for
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: free or something. That sounds like it would have major
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: ways to be busted and would have to be balanced around.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: That's so cool, that's so creative.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: I just like the idea of.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: You are keeping yourself low on mana and limiting your place,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: but you get some big payoff for it. And I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: think that would kind of work with Bravos's theme, or
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: at least what they're like original theme was of sort
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: of going fast.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I dig it. Anyone else want to go first? Second?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, well my kind of be I don't know
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: if it would be a card or if it would
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: be a series of cards. I've always been a huge
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: fan of the tribal. Right, we already talked about it
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: earlier on so number one bird Tribal. I need a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: bird hero, right, what about Yeah? Yeah, that's that's my
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: first choice. But I would like a set of heroes
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: that rewards Okay, hear me out. I know nothing good
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: comes from this ever, right are we ready? Because it
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: would almost be and maybe this works an Altered and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: it might not too. I am very good at making
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: busted things don't end up being very good.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: I e.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: See see the Alliance format in Altered, which is completely
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: and utterly busted and shouldn't exist. But I made it
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: and now it's a thing. So but I would like
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: to see like a series of heroes that rewards a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: style like you're only allowed to have cards and this
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: is an example. Don't take this two to heart, but
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: you're only allowed to play Man of Value cards two
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: or less, Like it restricts your deck construction, but rewards
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: you in some faction for it or some fashion for it.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: I actually think that that'd be really cool, especially in
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: a game where deck building is so unique. I guess
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: pun intended as altered, where you already have the knobs
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: of common, rare and unique and now exalted of what
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: you're putting into your deck. The something that forces you
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: to think about deck building in a new way on
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: top of that, I think would be really interesting. Although
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: it is normally a mechanic that fucks over everything.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is I'm not a very designer.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: I just have ideas. I'm the I'm the ideas person.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: The true professionals should take over the reins from here
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: on out, because like in Magic, we all know how
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: how fucked Companion was. Yeah, but something in that nature
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: that doesn't buy And I don't know if there's a
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: way you could balance it to make it not busted.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: But because like some of the some of the negatives
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: are just going to be super hard to deal with
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: and there just might be never anything. But like you know, hey,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: you're only allowed to play with plants, no cards in
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: your deck. Besides, you know, action cards can be plants
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: or you know whatever, Like your whole your whole identity
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: needs to be plants and then you can build from there.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: But you do get some sort of benefit from it. Again,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: what that benefit is, I don't know, but you know
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: makes you think a little bit outside the box.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually have a I have a moona deck
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: made that is everything is to mana or less? Is
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: it two mana or less? Or is every single thing
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: to mana? Let me check. I think it's pretty I'm
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: pretty sure it's called like, I.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Think there's enough two mana cards in Muna to do that.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: I think it's Yeah, two is the best number. Yeah,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: it's two or less.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: So okay, Dexter.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Would be the one to know.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: It sounds like a extra deck right there.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: There are cards that cost more than two mana in
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: this game that she wouldn't know about them.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: I've already designed a couple, so I'll just read off
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: to that I've made. And the first one is a
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: concept that I've kind of wanted for a long time,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: which is around like plants actually growing. The closest and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: still only we have really is hydra caena, but it's
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: called the beanstalk. And both of these I'll just say
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: they're rare, so they are a little stronger because they're rare,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: but it is a character plant spirit and it has
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: from anywhere I gain anchored, and then it says when
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: I gain one boost, I gain two instead, and I'm
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: sure knee jerk reactions for most people are like that
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: is so busted, But when you really think about it,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: boosts in like today's meta are sometimes the downside. It
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: means that you're making the card target for one more
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: type of removal, So I don't I don't think it
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: would be too absolutely busted. But with how altered design
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: works now, I think they would maybe put a cap
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: on it, like you've saw with Bessie and other cards
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: like that. But I think those cards are under strength.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: I think they're too handicapped, so maybe there's some in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: between the other. I think this one has potential to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: be busted. But it's you're agumo. I think that's how
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: you say it. It's a animal spirit and it just
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: has animals in my expedition have eternal.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Wow, is it an animal itself?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: That seems like it might be too much if you
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: had to give it.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Anchored over and over again. I think that that could
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: be good, but giving itself eternal as well, as everything else.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: Seems pretty busted.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Well, it's a it's a spider god, so you know
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: it's got to be busted. Can I pace these? I
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: think I can.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: Also cold real quick, I have a problem with your
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: deck list. What Beauty Sleep costs three from reserve?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: Oh all right, I got to get rid of Beauty
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Sleep yep, or you can't.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: You just can't play it from reserve.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: Oh well, whoever plays it from reserve. Let's be honest,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: you never know. But yeah, and then the uh, your
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Gumo is four from hand three from reserve three three
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: three and being Stuck is three from hand for from
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: reserve one one one.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: Here's a fun question for everybody. This for everybody. Everybody
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: feel free to try out. Because I see your You
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: actually made cards, like made made cards, So that's that's cool. Yep.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: And I did not use ai R. It's not that
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: hard to do. People, listen, col And I'm actually for once,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: for once, I'm actually not talking about Wookie.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: So you just hit it.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: You might have hit astray because you know, if you
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: feel guilty, then that's on you, but it was not
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: in reference to you.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: Guilty is not in there. I'm just tired of hearing
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: about it either way, Is anybody doing altereds for all
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: for altered coup There's a couple of people out there
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: doing them. Yeah, okay, I mean I would say the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: main one is, uh the Token Lady Porifer who makes
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: token altarts. I want to know somebody to alter art
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: my Magpie penguins. Yeah, there's a couple of peoples.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of people who have done three
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: D Like they've made the card three D.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Like the cutout cards. Yeah, you like stack them on
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: top of each other.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't think they stack multiple cards. They
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: just cut out the pieces and like make it three
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: D layered it yeaheah.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: You you layer, so you have like ten or so
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: of them and you put like a little like a
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: piece of foam or whatever in the middle, and it
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: kind of like starts to layer and the cards get
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: stacked and it looks then three D.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they just magic did this forever in a day. Yeah,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: they cut it. They cut out bits and some look
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: like they're closer to you, so it looks like they're far.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: It just makes the card look through.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, yep. There's a couple of people I don't
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: think there's anyone that does alters like that consistently, Like.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Magic people all the time, like in their Commander decks
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: will have like sweet altereds right like they've said that
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: they've altered the card somehow, some way, you know, that's
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: theay somebody's actually painted on the thing or whatever the
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: case may be. It's something I wish for tokens. Yeah,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: it's something I wish I could do in key Forge,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: but just kind of isn't allowed, so nobody does it,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: So I wonder if Altered was doing it. I think
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: like they're.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: Uh official stance is that you are supposed to use
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: like the cards that come in the packs. But you know,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: I do think one of the great things about this
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: game is the art, and I like the access that
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: we get to Altars, you know from the Adventure Pass
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: and promo packs. But it would also be cool for
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: the community members to express their own creativity, not that.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: We don't already. But anyways, moving on to events, Alter Tastes.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: Dextra didn't get to say a card don't.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: Have a good idea.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: He did hear the idea of hypothermia and having double
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: sided effects where you have to pick an opponent's character
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: and your own character, so like destroying both giving status
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: effects both. More of those would be cool.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Nice. Hypothermia is a great card. I think it's very cool.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: If if they put one in Mona, it would be anchor,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: and I could see like if you gave me a
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: spell that cost the same as hypothermia and it is
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: both character both you know what I'm saying. Anchor, I
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: think it could. I think it could be very interesting
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: because I could play it, like if I go first,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: I play let's say, you know who, what the hell?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Why can't I think of cards a bumble beat. I
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: play a bumble beat and then they play like a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 4: tiny gin and get a boost on it. I could
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: cast that and they be like, you're not getting that, man,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: So that.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Could yelp you forcing the anchor something that they don't
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: It's a bit like a airw emissary of the wind.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but you know, would have more versatility.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: All Right, finally, the events for Rookie all right, events
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: altered aces on Mondays at twelve thirty.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Is that Central time? Yes? Central? I've never seen CTS
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: Central time? All right, now, ace every Tuesday night at
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: six thirty pm Central time. I'd be sweet if you
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: maybe moved that to like, I don't know, I guess whatever,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: eight thirty.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, moved it to eight thirty.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know all you all you are a bunch
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: of old men who like are like I like to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: eat pudding at four thirty.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Yep, I do.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Some of us don't get home until eight o'clock. So
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: and when do you eat your pudding? Not normally at
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: about four thirty, So you're the same as us. I'm
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: normally still at work at at six thirty. I still
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: got it. I still got an hour and a half
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: to go at six thirty.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: But I can play at work.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something sellsman, that's frowned upon, But you know, I'll
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: give it a shot next week. Altered Corner dot com
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: has the online events now, so you can see that
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: over there. What are there? Funny improvements are you making
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: over there? Uh?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: You guys should open up the website and go look
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: at the events tab and live reacts.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: Whoa crazy?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: The other thing I did was I added felix officially
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: to the to the homepage.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the change I don't think I've made back
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: to my old picture.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Uh, the one of you like twenty years ago.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: It wasn't twenty years ago.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: You can have whatever picture you want. The person that
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: was upset about that isn't here anymore.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: I know, and he ain't. We've already have found out
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: he ain't coming back. So that guy just saying so Yeah.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: Texas events and also online events, you can find them.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: The event you need to know about is the Non
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Unique Challenge, because I believe that is the only way
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: to truly play altered and.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: That is my least favorite way, and I am a hater.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: My favorite would be Singleton.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, Singleton's a good one, though I do like Singleton too.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: I feel if you're going to add uniques back in,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: Singleton is the way to go. I feel like both
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: are equally players skill testing.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: I'm a n you see, hater. I don't hate any
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: of the organizers, but I do not care for the format.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: You see that. I'm the opposite.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: I hate all the organizers but love the format.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that is a fair.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: It's where I came on this podcast to start drama
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: creating in the community.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: It's okay, none of them listen.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: It's one or the other. Nobody listens to this show.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: They're they're all busy listening into that other podcast.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: What which one's the one Hero's Guide as Gartha.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, no, I try every every day. They are just
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: too weak.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: They won't they won't bite.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: They just don't put up a good fight.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, who should we start ship with? Blue? No? No, no,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: heart can't take it.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I was working with Blue today. Blue is doing good.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: He was. He was judging the main stream tables at
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Riftbound all day yesterday and today.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was giving us updates.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: So, well, you told me who to start ship with,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: because I'm really good at starting ship. Okay, Wookie, we
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: have shipped now. Well that you can't just start like that. Okay,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You can't do it on air. You can't
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: do it on air live. It doesn't work like that.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to make you happy because like like, well.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: You can start ship with uh. And then just like
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: like he had a name and it was like right
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: there and he was about to spit it out, but
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: like he just like he just couldn't. He just couldn't
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: do it, like something, just he just shut himself down.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: No, I was just gonna I think everyone's too easy
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: to because.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: You're like, oh, they get busy, they're too busy listening
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: to that other show, and it's like, what other podcast
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: is there for?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: There's only one left.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: There's only two of us, right, that's it?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well in English?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Probably.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can start French and Spanish.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we can start shopping French. I
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie to you like we might lose that one.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: I have a very great French insult that I made up.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have adam.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: Do you want to hear it?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, you can't be like I have a great
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: French insult and then just not tell us. That'd be
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: a great place to stop the show.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've I think I forgot some of
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: the correct grammar for it, but nause un lascian. It
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: means it means you swim like a bitch.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, really, very.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Offense to that.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you got you got a
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: half fish right here? Buh.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: Very specifically, it means you swim like a female dog.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: Oh okay. I don't really know how swimming like a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: bitch would affect me. I'd just be like, okay, okay,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. Like like, you know,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: I'm now you're You're probably right. I've never been a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: strong swimmer, you know. I can float pretty good though.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: But with that being said, make sure you go to
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: your locals. Spend some money with your locals, make sure
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: they get what they need. Keep on keeping on making
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: sure Altered is out there and everybody's having a good time.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Try a new format, try a new hero, and we
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: will see you all next week. Oh thanks for a
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: guy trying, for coming on, thank you for having me,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: thank you, thank you for that, and I will see
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: all master. Bye.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: How do you