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Cindi Boston: Pregnancy Help Centers Confronting Death Culture · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Hey, friends, a lot to celebrate when it comes to life and protecting life in mothers
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  wombs.
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  We've got the VP of Heartbeat International today, Cindy Boston, that's next.
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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity, no topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Since we have so much to dive into today, friends, by the way, welcome to World View Matters,
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  and thanks for sharing the podcast, we are getting out there, praise God.
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  So Cindy Boston is a longtime leader in the pregnancy help community at the local, state,
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  and national levels.
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  She was named Heartbeat International's Vice President in 2016.
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  She previously served on Heartbeat International's Board of Directors and was recognized in
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  2011 as a servant leader, honoree.
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  And Cindy chaired the Board for Missouri's Alliance for Life.
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  And that played a role in passing a state resolution, honoring the work of pregnancy,
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  help organizations, as well as directing funds for a specific service is covered under
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  the TANF, the temporary assistance for needy families.
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  And we are excited about what's going on with the movement of life, protecting life in
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  the United States.
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  Again, so Cindy Boston, welcome to World View Matters, thanks for your time today.
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  It's so good to be here.
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  Thank you.
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  Good to be here.
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  I'm just so blessed to talk with you because I've been following you guys.
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  I've been a donor, and I want to encourage people to go to Heartbeat International.org,
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  I believe, yes it is.
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  And before we start, Cindy, just share a little bit about the organization.
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  There are a lot of good pro-life organizations out there.
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  And yours, I just want to make sure the viewers or the listeners that don't know about Heartbeat
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  International, how did it start?
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  What are you guys doing?
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  What are you excited about?
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  I know that could take an hour, but I know you're a pro at bullet pointing that for us.
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  You bet.
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  So go ahead, please.
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  Well I was a pregnancy center leader reluctantly, and I helped start a pregnancy center in Spring
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  Film Missouri, and I was able to tap into the many services and curriculum training of
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  Heartbeat International.
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  And I fell in love with the Heartbeat folks immediately.
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  They were so helpful in clearing the pathway for me to just get in and get my center open
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  and begin saving lives.
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  And that is not an easy task.
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  And Heartbeat rose to the occasion for that, well in 16 they asked me to come on board.
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  Heartbeat began in 1971 as a response to the growing abortion industry because they
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  knew women need help.
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  They don't need to be told what to do.
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  They need hopeful moments and conversations.
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  They need somebody to stand with them during their toughest times.
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  And that's what Heartbeat International and our affiliates, pregnancy centers, maternity
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  homes and adoption agencies.
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  We specialize in that.
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  We make sure that no woman stands alone or feels so alone that she's forced to choose
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  abortion without considering other options.
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  That's our goal.
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  Request you and renew.
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  Yeah.
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  Praise God.
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  And those other options that are rarely talked about unfortunately in the public square
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  in the media.
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  How about abstinence?
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  How about adoption?
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  How about providing for a young woman who goes through and has her baby if she's a teenager?
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  But on your website, our vision is to make abortion unwanted today and unthinkable for future
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  generations.
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  Cindy, that's a tall order because abortion is well marketed.
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  I mean, it's evil.
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  I call it the marketing of evil.
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  It's promoted from the public schools to Hollywood to corporations to our government, particularly
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  the left and the Democrats and Planned Parenthood.
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  I just want you to respond to these numbers.
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  Planned Parenthood takes in $700 million in taxpayer funding every year.
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  Now a lot of people think, well, didn't President Trump defund Planned Parenthood in the first
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  in his first, when he was first president?
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  Well, he tried.
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  He was fighting that battle.
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  But then there's got to be a lot of follow up, right?
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  And then they charge women $140 for pregnancy test.
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  What about they charge $600, $1,000 or even $2,000 for abortions?
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  So they make money.
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  This is a money-making machine and their revenue is over a billion dollars a year.
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  And yet they get help from the taxpayers.
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  And most taxpayers, although there are some Cindy that might be pro-choice, but still
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  some of them don't think that our taxpayer money should go to Planned Parenthood.
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  Share your thoughts on that and help us make sense out of this.
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  Well, it's such an interesting concept.
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  If you put pregnancy help with heartbeat and our 3,700 affiliates across the globe, those
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  are life-saving free organizations that step in the gap for moms and babies and dads.
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  And it's local help with local people, with local funding, standing in the gap for those
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  mamas and the dads that are involved.
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  And we step in, free of charge.
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  Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood, there's a revenue stream there that Planned Parenthood uses.
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  And they say, follow the money.
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  And that's what we'll have to do with the abortion issue.
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  What is the money trail?
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  Where is it going?
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  And we know that money is a big deal in the abortion industry.
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  We know that not only are they getting paid by the client and the patient, but they're
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  getting paid by the government as well.
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  We really love the fact that pregnancy centers are local people serving local women who need
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  their help and ministering to them in a local way.
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  That is the key for us to lock arms around the women in our communities and serve them
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  well.
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  And these services are free.
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  And Planned Parenthood charges, it's just an amazing thing.
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  Why do you think, say whatever you want, no topic off limits, and other than profanity,
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  anything goes on this podcast, why hasn't Planned Parenthood been defunded years ago?
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  I think they just had such a huge lobby with the federal money that they've had.
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  There's such a huge abortion lobby.
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  And they've been ahead of the game, but it's a highly diverse amount of money.
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  The amount of money pregnancy centers have and maternity homes and adoption agencies
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  versus the big machine of abortion.
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  And they've had big government and big tech in their wheelhouse, so to speak.
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  Those things have really created synergy in controlling government.
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  I mean, we saw it with some of the executive orders of the Biden administration making abortion
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  healthcare.
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  That was shocking.
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  And then to have it fully funded as if it was just general healthcare, those are things
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  that we now have the opportunity to step in the gap for these moms and dads to see
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  the life saved.
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  But we have a more even playing field now, thank the Lord.
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  That is something we've been praying for.
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  We've been praying for the darkness to divide and to break.
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  And we've seen some really exciting things in the last couple of weeks.
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  So give me an idea, give us viewers that aren't aware of what you guys do when a young
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  woman, thank God they might call your help plan, or thank God they'll turn to you as opposed
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  to just going to the plan, that's all they know, they're here in the schools, they're
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  here in Hollywood, plan parent, I'll go there, they'll help me, no they won't help you
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  save your baby or really care for you.
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  But what does heartbeat international do when a young woman calls or tries to get a hold
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  of you guys?
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  How does that work?
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  So option line, which is a 24-7 help line, we have an online pregnancy quiz, we have
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  millions of women that tap into that pregnancy quiz every single year, and then they have
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  the ability then to stay online and speak with a consultant, they have the ability then
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  to find a pregnancy center with free services near them, those are the services of option
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  line and option line never closes.
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  We've been open more than 20 years, day and night, while we enjoyed Christmas dinner,
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  we had operators online speaking with, I think it was about 400 women on Christmas day,
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  on the average day though, we help more than 1100 women, sometimes 1500 women, when I walk
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  out the door every day, I look at our option line board and I see, okay so far today at
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  6 pm, we've had 900 women who've reached out, they're crying for help and we have the
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  ability to step in the gap for them.
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  So we have option line, then we have abortion pill rescue network, that is also a 24-7
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  feature, because when you're reversing a chemical abortion, you need every moment possible,
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  we've got to give her progesterone within 72 hours of when she takes that first abortion
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  and if she can call in and we quickly get her to one of our 1400 amazing doctors who are
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  volunteering, most of them volunteer their time, their energy to help us treat this woman,
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  who has this instant regret, I don't want this abortion, I took that first pill and now what
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  am I going to do? The abortion industry tells them when they're taking that first pill, you cannot
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  reverse this, but that's not true, because we have more than 6,000 children walking this earth,
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  crawling, growing, now some are even in middle school and they are student body presidents,
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  little Isaiah, or Zacharias, excuse me, who was one of the first 10 reversals, he is now student
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  body president at his school, it's a child that almost didn't make it, he almost disappeared
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  from this earth, but we were able to reverse the abortion and now his mother Rebecca is thrilled,
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  she was able to give life, she had terrible circumstances, we can never know what these women
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  are dealing with, you would not believe the stories we hear, abuse neglect and on and on it goes,
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  and this is the way we can step in the gap for them, either before they choose abortion,
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  we can intervene, get them to local health, but if they've already chosen abortion,
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  we can help reverse that abortion if she calls us within 72 hours, it's a wonderful service and
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  it really represents the beauty of the pro-life and Christian communities, we're here for you,
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  we will help you in any way we can, these women go on to become pharmacists, teachers, doctors,
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  I mean, it's incredible to see the accomplishments of these moms who say yes with courage to the
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  life of their child. So where is that on your website, did you say abortion pill reversal?
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  Yes, where is that on your website? If they just go to heartbeatinternational.org and click
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  our services, our work, click the abortion pill rescue button, can you see it there? And just go
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  to abortion pill reversal, there you go, our rescue network is 24-7 and you'll find stories,
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  you'll find reports there, there's all kinds of information, but now we know more than 63%
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  of all abortions are now chemical abortion. However, we suspect it's closer to 80% with the data
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  that we have, it's not official gluten-mocker data, but it is data that we are seeing and we are
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  women are choosing it because it seems easy, they ship pills to my house, they can ship pills
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  to my house despite the laws of the state, I can take this and nobody you'll ever know, but the problem
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  is she will always know. Women feel scarred and often have many regrets from abortion. That's right,
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  all kinds of things from nightmares about babies crying, to depression, to suicidal thoughts,
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  to feelings of regret, remorse, guilt, and on and on and on, which we talked briefly before
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  this podcast, you never hear that in the media or from any of these other places. So I know the
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  numbers change and there's different places to get numbers, but from what we're hearing the pill,
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  especially for states that have banned restrictions on abortion, the pill is the major way a lot of
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  women are turning to use that for their abortion. Isn't it dangerous? Was that approved by the FDA?
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  How does that work? Well, there were restriction on chemical abortion, it's got a red box on it,
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  which means it's a drug that has implications. You know, there are very few drugs that are released
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  by the FDA that has a red box on it. I believe that's what they call it, red box, and they
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  the drugs that have that, there's a warning on there. And this drug has that warning, but
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  but this administration has removed all of the minimum standards. Women are no longer seen by
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  a doctor before they have a termination procedure. That is so dangerous. I mean, what if she has
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  an ectopic pregnancy? What if she has a health issue that interacts in a bad way? We want to make
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  sure women have good health care, good health care means seeing their doctor, having that conversation,
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  making sure she has all the information that she needs to make a pregnancy decision. She should not
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  just be given one choice, and that is often what happens. Yep, that's exactly right. And when we
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  come back from our brief pause here, Cindy Boston, we're going to talk about a young woman named
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  Kendra, who was alone, scared, and convinced that abortion was the only way out. But we have a picture.
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  We're going to show you guys when we come back of Kendra and her baby success story on World
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  and getting us out there. So Kendra was a young woman that was just 18 when her life was turned
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  upside down by an assault that left her pregnant. So Fier and Shame consumed her. She believed,
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  as you said, Cindy abortion was her only option, but her mother brought her to a heartbeat,
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  affiliated pregnancy center. And for the first time, she saw her baby on ultrasound. Otherwise,
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  she was heading for Planet Parenthood or another abortion mill. Let's put up that picture, Jeff,
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  and let's show everybody that the result now because of heartbeat, international, and they're
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  affiliated services and agencies and other pregnancy services, they save lives. There she is.
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  I'm sure she's so thankful that she chose life for her daughter. So Cindy, would you like to talk?
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  I mean, I've got that from your newsletter that came out January 30th that I was emailed in my inbox.
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  Oh, I'm so glad you got that. And you know, this is a special story. I went to babies go to
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  Congress, which is a heartbeat event. We take moms and babies to Congress and we talk with
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  legislators. We meet with Congresswoman and men. We make sure senators understand the plight
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  that these women are going through and how the abortion industry takes advantage of them
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  during their darkest time. We make sure that they understand what a pregnancy center and what
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  heartbeat international brings to the table. And the fact that pregnancy centers are good for
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  America. So Kendra went with us and baby Ella, I got to hold her hand a lot as we walk through
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  the halls of Congress. It was such a precious time because Kendra actually had an assault.
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  She was pregnant by force. And just imagine the heartache of trying to figure out your 18. You're
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  getting ready to start your school. You have college scholarships on the line. She was devastated.
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  And she was very abortion minded because who wouldn't be thinking about I'm going to lose so much
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  if I carry this pregnancy to term. And there's always that thought with assault. You know, this is
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  a terrible attack. Why should I do this? But yet, you know, one bad situation should not be
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  complemented by another heart-wrenching decision that later you might live to regret.
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  Most women regret abortion. Someone admitted that I've seen it behind closed doors women saying,
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  I wish I would have never done that. Kendra was brave and she went to her local center and she
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  was able to find out that she was no longer alone. She had somebody standing with her. In fact,
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  some of the staff even kept Kendra in their home for a period of time when she needed housing.
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  Because of her college situation, she needed housing. Can you imagine a Christian community
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  holding together to make sure this young woman could go through school? What a beautiful storyline.
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  I tell you, legislators were moved by her story as were their staff. It's a compelling story.
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  The fact that she is not alone. She said it was a miracle she found the center and it was a
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  miracle she was able to find hope. That's what pregnancy centers do across the world.
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  So before we run out of time, Cindy, there's a coming up in, I believe it was April. You've got,
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  is it an online banquet? Is it an annual event coming up? Tell us a little bit about that.
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  Heartbeat International provides training. That is one of our key pillars. Heartbeat was created
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  to do a variety of things, one of which was to train and equip the pregnancy help community.
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  And so we will have nearly 2000 pregnancy help leaders, volunteers, board members,
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  friends of organizations come for training. We're going to Birmingham and we will provide training
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  on everything from how to talk to the abortion-minded woman, how to learn to scan and do ultrasound
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  through a pregnancy center. As a nurse, we'll talk about fundraising. We'll talk about
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  maternity housing and we've got more than 200 maternity homes across the US.
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  It's a full spectrum and comprehensive set of training and that happens at the end of April.
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  They could go right to our heartbeatinternational.org website by more about that.
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  Because if somebody's thinking about starting a pregnancy center, we want to meet you.
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  We want to know you and we want to be able to show you how we can come alongside you.
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  Because pregnancy centers help change the world and they certainly say the legacies of families.
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  And they really save the branches on family trees. It's a beautiful thing. We'd love you to
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  consider coming if you're thinking about starting a pregnancy center. Or if you're in this work,
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  you just want to learn more. Feel free to join us. We'd love it.
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  So that's heartbeatinternational.org. Cindy, another newsletter you guys sent out in January.
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  And there's so many lies and there's so much misinformation out there.
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  The CDC and their report, they indicate babies are being saved, right?
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  But the abortion rate in states where abortion is legal rose 11% in 2023, for example.
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  And we thought, hey, Roe v Wade is overturned. All right, hallelujah.
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  The work is done, but far from it. So this number does not include the whole picture.
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  And you guys talk about chemical abortions being just off the charts that now account for upwards
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  of 80% of all abortion procedures. For example, let's talk about another way that states are helping
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  other people that want to have an abortion if their state has restrictions. New Mexico.
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  Over 62% of abortions were performed on out of state residents out of state.
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  So it's called abortion tourism, which is just so demonic sounding. Talk to us a little bit about
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  just some of the numbers that like the CDC and others, you think, okay, that should be pretty accurate,
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  but they don't for some reason they don't tell the whole story.
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  No, they don't tell the story. And I suspect that number is not accurate. I suspect it's higher
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  as far as the abortions in other states. They have flying abortions. They make it a spotlight
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  experience. I don't know how you do that, but they that's what they advertise a spa-like
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  experience. Come and have your abortion. We actually got a call from a woman who her daughter was
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  pregnant and they had paid for upfront an abortion procedure drove to New Mexico from Texas,
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  where it is supposed to be illegal. And that mom and daughter lost all of their money. The abortion
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  clinic did not exist. It's a ranchy business and it is a business that takes advantage of people
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  that are in crisis. There's no excuse for it. I've spoken to a pregnancy center that is on the way
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  to New Mexico. They drive right past that community and we were strategizing about what could they
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  do to make sure they're reaching the moms who are driving past their town into New Mexico
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  for that abortion that is just over the border. There's all kinds of things Christians can be doing
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  and we have to keep at it. Abortion is still happening. Babies are still dumb. Mom still feel hopeless.
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  We need to advertise. We need to step in and lock arms with the local churches and
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  and pregnancy centers, maternity homes, adoption agencies. We need to engage at every level because
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  that's what the other side does. We kind of rested back a little bit. I even heard some of our donors
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  say, well, you know, this is over now and I thought, oh, I don't understand. So our job is just really
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  beginning. We went from one battle to 50 battles because we have differences in every state.
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  We have lawsuits now, law fair against heartbeat international because how dare us save babies
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  from the middle of a chemical abortion? How dare us do that? Attorney General Latisha James in New
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  York and Vonta in California are both suing heartbeat. So the battle is not over. In fact,
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  it's just ramping up. We must pray. We must give. We must lock arms and get involved and donate
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  time to our local organizations that are doing this heavy lifting because they're the boots on the
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  ground and I'm telling you, the women that walk in a pregnancy center or maternity home,
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  they're going to choose life most of the time because they feel loved for, they feel loved and cared
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  about and they are surrounded by a safety net of love from the community churches and individuals.
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  Yes, thank you for mentioning churches. We haven't done a great job of being there for young
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  pregnant teenagers and young women who are scared but let's do better at that and let's all get
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  on board here. Let's end on a good note. Cindy with the Trump administration. There are some good
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  things happening. One thing I definitely didn't want to run out of time before we mentioned the
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  Mexico City policy initiated by Reagan. It's been rescinded by every Democrat president and then
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  reinstated by every Republican president since its creation. The Pentagon during the Biden years,
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  the Pentagon paid for service members to travel over state lines for abortions paid for
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  by our tax dollars. Veterans affairs, medical centers were allowed to offer abortion counseling
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  and abortion procedures for service members and their beneficiaries and so let's talk about the
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  good news of some of the things that President Trump is doing. Well, we're certainly thankful
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  for the release of 23 prayerful pro-lifers who were jailed without cause. It's interesting. We
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  have somebody involved with heartbeat. She is what I would say, somebody who is not a God
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  believer, but she gives because she thinks women should have options. It's so interesting and she
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  said, you know, there are resting people who are praying outside an abortion clinic in London and
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  I said, what do you think about that? She goes, I think it's absolutely wrong. They have rights.
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  I was like, oh, she's with us. She's closer to Jesus than she knows. She's going to come to Jesus
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  soon, I think. Anyway, we really have a battle ahead of us, but we have a friendly
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  administration that is already, they're signing executive orders, rescinding the promotion of
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  abortion. You know, there was a website on HHS that was taken down on the day of the inauguration
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  and it was leading women to abortion. There's a profit stream there. They were promoting that.
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  We have so many opportunities right now. This administration lets pray. Let's make sure we're
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  supporting in prayer. Let's make sure we're praying for the mamas who are at risk and let's make
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  sure that we're doing everything possible to help save lives right in our own communities.
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  Thank you, Cindy. And we didn't even mention March for Life. Oh my goodness. Well attended and
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  JD Vance. The VP spoke there. He believes people, you know, married families should have more babies.
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  Anyway, so there's a lot of good things happening. I'm glad we ended with some positive news and
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  some, there are, there are some momentum, but we've got to work hard because the midterms are
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  coming up and elections have consequences. Cindy Boston, God bless you and heartbeat international
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  on the work that you're doing. Thank you so much. God bless. Thanks for your time. All right,
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  friends, make sure you go there and at least check out some of the information there. You can share
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  that. And of course, you can always donate as well. So God bless you and as always, keep speaking
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  the truth about things that matter.