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- The Drama Drop: guys, are we shocked at all? There is some more ⁓ to add to the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives saga. The drama never ends. Again, are we shocked? No. However, this week, we got some new players in the feud, okay? Now we have Taylor Frankie Paul versus Mikayla Matthews, which I could say I'm a little bit shocked. I mean, there was speculation that there might've been a little riff going on between the two because they haven't interacted. on social media. And you know, most people would think, okay, yeah, like, is that really a telltale sign? For this group it is, as we all know. I mean, they make it very clear if you are not openly supporting one another for the public eye, that you aren't, you know, for them, a friend, if you will. So I've had some speculation given that we haven't really seen Mikayla make any sort of statements. in Taylor's corner after all of this stuff that has gone down. So is this shocking? Not really. However, for it to just kind of randomly spark up, yes, it was shocking to me. So I'm not gonna read her whole statement, because honestly, there's a lot of things going back and forth that I'm gonna get into. But I mean, the gist of her statement that she put out, she just, unless I miss something, so please let me know if I miss something. But I feel like it was just at least, in the public. Like obviously we don't know what was going on privately, but it was just kind of random that she decided to make this statement. she put out a statement pretty much comparing ⁓ Taylor's abusive relationship to Mikayla's skincare issues. ⁓ you know, it's like I understood in a sense of what she was trying to say, but the two are just not comparable. She was basically alluding to ⁓ You know, I have all these skincare issues. If someone is coming to me saying, hey, this one skincare product that you're using, this cream that you're using is just absolutely not it. It's not gonna do you any good. It's just gonna make things worse. you know, people are telling me point blank, but I continue to use this cream. How can I ask for sympathy, for empathy, or, you know, how people feel bad for me when I am choosing to go this route when Everybody is telling me that this is not the route I need to go to. Interesting take, you know, I again, I see where she was trying to navigate to. She didn't really land the plane. She kind of circled the premises, but that's just those two aren't comparable. You can't compare skin issues and an abusive relationship. ⁓ That's just that just doesn't make much sense. So in this scenario, Dakota is the cream and it's just I don't know. It's kind of a silly comparison if you will but obviously I mean Taylor is not gonna be silent once this was put out. mean absolutely not. You know, she is going to make sure that everybody knows that she saw it and her feelings and opinions on this. So stuff with the Deets obviously, you know, reported as soon as possible as Mikayla made this statement regarding, you know, her skincare comparison. And Taylor commented on this video and she said, she is the epitome of someone that was waiting for my downfall and not only watched it, but clearly kicking me too. I rarely, if ever cried to her for help, they always wanted an update on my life. Let's not get that twisted. She is exhausted of me, that's in quotes, as I tried to stay home and suffer in silence, just like I was doing currently and still coming at me comparing rashes and cream to my situation. I'm fed up. but I knew she was going through her own stuff and I didn't want to make it worse. Clearly she can't do the same. P.S. She can find her way to the door if she doesn't want to film with me next. Okay, yeah, so obviously like there's just a lot of back and forth. So Taylor's like, absolutely not. There's no way you are going to be able to even try to convince me that if that is any sort of the same realm. And I mean, there's just. The receipts are just, it's a long, it's like a CVS receipt. There's so much back and forth. And you have Mikayla, she's basically saying, preying on her downfall, that is not the case whatsoever. She said if preying on her downfall is checking in, as she even said, without asking, going to bat for her every time and sending things to make sure she was eating or being taken care of, then I guess she has a point. but that is what a friend is. You shouldn't have to ask your friends to care about you or ask if you're okay when you're going through things. Be so for real. There were plenty of times during her multiple rock bottoms where I could have hopped on the train and kicked her while she was down, but I never did. I gave compassion and just let her know I was there and hated to see her like this. There was a line and I hated, ⁓ sorry, ran out of, okay, hold on. I understand, I have to give context. Okay, I'm just, okay. I mean, I was just going, I was just going off of how the other people maneuvered the storyline. well now I don't even know where I'm at. I'll just go back. So after she makes that comment, know, you have Mikayla, she's back quickly, you know, basically saying, praying for her downfall, like that narrative will never not be bizarre to me. You know, she explains that she has been there for her, you know, making sure she's eating, taking care of herself and all of it, basically saying her narrative is false. Like she's done everything that she could possibly do as a friend. However, ⁓ Mikayla herself has boundaries and you know, it comes to a point of, okay, you're not helping yourself. Like I can only watch self-destruct so long. ⁓ And which I get it. I totally get it. And you know, I have two sides of all of this of, okay, feel like this could have been a private conversation, but ⁓ obviously selfishly like, thank you, thank you. I'm so glad that it's not. because love seeing all of this play out. I love the back and but it is still just kind of bizarre to think like, ⁓ were they a conversation about this? Like what led to this point for all of a sudden, Mikayla to ⁓ make this service announcement, you will, because obviously, ⁓ Taylor, very much the details, very much about, ⁓ she doesn't take anything ⁓ let me try to think of how to word it like face value. She looks at all of the details. So I think she thinks everything is very calculated because she is also concerned about the timing of this. It was Mother's Day weekend when Mikayla made this statement. So of course she's like, well this timing is suspicious. And she's just like, you really had to do this on Mother's Day. ⁓ would you make some sort of statement? ⁓ now, like why now? And of course you have Mikayla being like, I didn't realize timing mattered. I wasn't even thinking about that. I just made the statement. But, you know, it doesn't really help because you have a lot of Taylor apologists and ⁓ you have so many people that are coming to her defense and making videos, also analyzing it because you have people saying, wow, like this is just kind of crazy. You have Dakota who was ⁓ you know, her child, like the custody on her birthday. And then you have Mikayla making this post Mother's Day. It's just like back to back to back on these like, you know, would be like special times. These things are happening. And she's like, this can't be a coincidence, you know, and you have the crowd basically being like, yeah, that was so weird. That's shady behavior. ⁓ Again, like I said, the timing is weird to me. not knowing what was going on behind closed doors. Cause it is, it's just kind of like, did you just wake up one day and you're like, I'm to write this whole manifesto about why I think, I think it's silly that she is still expecting pity and grace and being a victim and all of this and just making this comparison to my skin issues. ⁓ yeah, I don't really understand the logic behind that. I really, I truly don't, but you know, I can. to degree, like I see where she could be fed up for sure. I mean, you know, a person can only handle so much like you watch somebody that you love and you care for and they continuously make terrible decisions. And it's like, okay, I can only be so emotionally invested in this for so long. Like I can't keep watching you make these decisions and self-destruct. But, know, according to Taylor, she just was not. being as much of a friend as Mikayla claims. Mikayla says she's done all of these things for her. She just reached a breaking point. ⁓ yeah, I mean, aside from just ⁓ being upset about this comparison, ⁓ is going hard now. She's is resharing that people are talking about Mikayla basically saying Mikayla is boring she just really wants Taylor have a downfall. ⁓ She's trying to ruin her and just of this, just terrible things about Mikayla and she's just making it known that she's like, yeah. So she's it, she's reposting it. ⁓ is not hiding away. She's like, I'm truly surrounded by snakes and she wants that to be known. ⁓ What I do find kind of interesting is that on Mother's Day, Taylor makes an Instagram post and she basically dedicates it to Mikayla if you wanna look at it that way, because she posts a picture and it's with her and her kids, it's Mother's Day, but she's just. In the caption, she has this whole long thing just talking about like her friends and who she has in her corner, who she doesn't have in her corner. And I don't know, I thought the caption was an extremely bizarre thing to put on Mother's Day. It's like, okay, I understand you're very upset. You're hurt for sure. You have a lot going on. Like there's so much and I know you're probably just wanting to unleash it out into the, you know, just the venom, suck all the venom out. But for your Mother's Day post, like a post, like a picture with your kids, like I feel like we could maybe separate the two. I feel like there could have been a nice Mother's Day picture, post, caption, put it with a little bow. And then you wanted to hate on Mikayla and make your feelings be known, I feel like those two could have been separately. But that's just me. I don't know. ⁓ I Like, who am I to make that Because I am not in this whatsoever. But Just as an outsider, it's just kind of like bizarre. It's like, why would you do that? ⁓ But yeah, I mean, there's just so much back and forth. Like it is kind of crazy. I think it went on for like three days. ⁓ And then it kind of like went even further because what we've kind of concluded with this whole feud, because I mean, a lot of it is just back and forth. So I'm not gonna read. all of the back and forth, it's kind of repetitive. ⁓ But would it kind of concluded at least as of today, mean, by the time you see this, there could be so much more that comes out. it looks like Mikayla is the one that ended up blocking Taylor on Instagram. And what led to all of this is because like I said, had been resharing like several stories. ⁓ from people or maybe like therapists that are giving their two cents on the situation. But I think what really was like the nail on the coffin for Mikayla, she reposted a video where creators just kind of talking about Mikayla and her childhood essay and how it doesn't make any sense that she's using her voice for that while also marrying her alleged And so it's just kind of like, Ooh, like that's not really great because obviously we know that that's a huge touchy subject. That's one of her, I mean, her biggest storyline in the show. And, you know, it's kind of like Taylor putting salt in the wound of like, okay, you want to talk about my issues, my trauma. I'm going to go ahead and share yours type of thing. Not that it's unknown to all of us. Like we can kind of know, but she's kind of putting it as like, okay, you want to say that I stayed in my situation. knowing that it wasn't great or whatever, but let's look at your situation, you know, just a lot of finger pointing, which seems really unnecessary, but that is really what ⁓ put the nail in the coffin, like I said. And so the final thing that Mikayla made before ⁓ blocked Taylor, and to be honest, we don't for sure know if she blocked. It's kind of just alluded to based on this statement that she made. She said, told myself I wouldn't engage after my first statement, yet here I am. Clearly I could practice some more self-control, LOL. I can be the first to admit that I definitely got out of hand commenting. I can't stress enough that this is not about sides or teams. I genuinely want to see everyone healed and happy, including myself. At the same time, I'm not going to quietly accept loud disrespect, manipulation, or fear tactics used to intimidate any woman who sets boundaries. or chooses not to support destructive behavior. And I definitely won't tolerate people downplaying the trauma I've endured and continue working through to this day. I don't believe we were meant to view this much social media every day. Social media can be so amazing on one hand, but on the other so dangerous. I know I can't control what people say, but I can control what I allow myself to see and engage with. Hence why I'll be blocking anyone who is not serving my end goal. This is healthy praying hands emoji. So, Yeah, mean, that's that pretty much to me says she is blocking Taylor Frankie Paul. They will not be filming together anymore. I mean, to be honest, I didn't think they would be filming. mean, I don't really can I be honest? OK, just pivot really quick. I don't see. Much more for secret lives and Mormon wives beyond finishing season five. I just I really don't. mean. She's not living in Utah anymore. like the core group is just kind of dwindling. Like I just don't see how they're gonna be able to rebuild this with the cast that they have left to kind of keep it still as interesting as it is, like no offense to them. Honestly, like that's kudos to them. That means that they kind of have, you know, steady life going on. But yeah, I don't know. You have two sides, of course, on... Team Mikayla, Team Taylor, you have people just kind of being like, yeah, that's so weird that she would post that. Like, why would you do that as a friend? And just kind of thinking that it's ridiculous that she's even gonna attempt to compare the two. And then you have other people saying like, I totally see her side of that. Yeah, like that can be very frustrating. You're trying to help somebody and, ⁓ you know, they're not doing anything to help themselves, but. I just, it's just so messy. It's so messy. you know, like here's the thing, Taylor's gone and she's still continuing to go through so much. Like she has so much pain and she's trying to find her voice. She's trying to, you know, I feel like she feels she's been silenced through all the stuff that she's gone through. And I just truly don't see the benefits. of trying to make an online issue. ⁓ I just, don't know. Again, entertainment wise, I'm here for it. Like I love to kind of see this play out because we weren't sure. And maybe this was Mikayla's way of just kind of being like, yeah, I've taken a step back because we've all kind of noticed like, like we haven't heard anything from Mikayla. Like the deal? ⁓ Is she in her corner? Are they friends? How is that going? But I mean, it's been very clear to like, Mikayla's going through her own issues. Like she's taking her skincare journey very seriously and you know, up and like moving and living in other places to kind of just figure all that out. But it's just truly sad. I mean, we're seeing it all play out. I don't think that that will end anytime soon. I also wouldn't even be shocked if in like a month or two they are best friends again and They're fine. It's just, there's a lot. There's so much. Everybody has opinions. I, for one, think you really cannot compare those two at all. I just think that's really silly. I do understand the sentiment of being exhausted when somebody is very upset and keeps coming to you with an issue that can be fixed. But I understand that it's not black and white as much as we would love it to be and very simple, but Yeah, it's just, it's so messy all the way around. And yeah, so the girls, are not, they are not surviving right now to them too as a friendship. we'll see, we'll see what happens because as we know, things take a turn very quickly, at least in secret lives and Mormon lives. Like that is one thing that every time I think it's gonna slow down, it doesn't. yeah. In other news and other stories that things just never settle down. I'm moving over to Summer House, okay? Before I get into what you probably think I'm going to talk about, I just wanted to kind of touch on the episode. So by the time you're seeing this, another episode will have come out. It'll be the continuation of the Kyle fight at the dinner ⁓ that Lindsay is hosting. But I just wanted to talk on last week's episode because... ⁓ God, like I said, everything now that we're seeing with a different lens, a different perspective just changes the game so much. So, you know, we're watching it in this different lens of like Amanda's the villain. And let me just tell you at the end, just watching her smug little smirk, getting Kyle all riled up, you know, you can just tell she's like enjoying getting under his skin and then making it look like, gosh, like, did you see what he said to me across the table? Like looking at everybody. But it's like, you did that. Like, granted, yeah, he can probably have a little bit more self control for sure. Because I mean, he kind of went off the handles. But it's like, you are antagonizing this man. Like, he it's so clear, like you want nothing to do with him. Like you just don't care about him as a person. Your marriage sucks at the end of the day, like you get excited almost to kind of see him all upset and all up in arms. And you get excited to have everybody else around the table get to view that and make it seem like, ⁓ my gosh, poor Amanda, poor Amanda. ⁓ I just, when I saw her face, look at him when everybody was kind of coming to her defense about him and his whole DJ career. It just, ⁓ Yeah, no, that was so frustrating to watch and it was so just disgusting. And then, of course, just to put the cherry on top of it all, know, Kyle's getting very upset ⁓ and West basically comes to defend Amanda's honor. And, you know, I don't know, again, truly like when those two really started, but I could just see a world in which you know, Amanda, she just like doesn't want anything to do with Kyle. And then you have West who, I mean, well, we all know he's super flirty and he just puts, he inserts himself, right? And I think, you know, she could view like him just being a guy, just being like defensive, protective, maybe just of women in general. Like, let's just call that what that is. Like, let's just say that's what it is. Like, had it been any other woman on the show with any other guy, like, yelling at her, he would have done the same thing, okay? I could see a world in which she's like, ⁓ like this is when things are starting to turn even more for her of like, ⁓ my gosh, like now he's coming to my defense and like she's starting to get emotionally involved and attached, like maybe she already has a little crush and then all of this, like these actions are what's making her even more be into him and just like, ⁓ my gosh, like I wanna get rid of Kyle so I can be with Wes, like look at him coming into my defense. And ⁓ gosh, I don't know. It's just such a hard watch knowing what we know now, just analyzing every single detail, every single move that these people make. Like it's not, ⁓ it doesn't go unnoticed now. And had this not come out, we would be viewing this in completely different light. We'd probably be like, ⁓ my gosh, that's so nice. Like West just sticking up for his girl, Amanda, his friend. That's so sweet. ⁓ But yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. Seeing Amanda get seemed what seemed to be super happy with herself, just kind of putting the spotlight on Kyle and making him seem like a bad guy and knowing how to push those buttons to get them all worked up. Is that right? No, for him to behave that way. But I mean, I don't know, you you reach a breaking point and you say things, you raise your voice, but it just seemed very calculated. She did that on purpose. You know what I mean? She's just not innocent by any means. then, know, rewinding even further when they have their beach day, it's also just so uncomfortable to hear her, you know, she's talking to Mia and being very much like, West cannot break Sierra's heart again. Like I know that they're trying to be friends, but like, I'm gonna be so protective of Sierra, like anybody, like not even just West. she's so special and it's like, ⁓ God, like shut up. Like you're so annoying because this is where I feel it's like you're overcompensating. And again, like your normal girlfriends, like you wouldn't think that, you you would just be like, ⁓ my gosh, that's such a good friend, like a best friend because that's just how girls are with their friends. Like, you know, they are just like such defensive, like protective, like do not mess with them. So. you would normally look at it like that. And it's just like, she playing this all up for the camera, know, because she doesn't want any speculation for, you know, when things would start to come out eventually about them or if they were out in public, like it wouldn't be viewed as that because, you know, she's just friends with West. Like she would never do that to Sierra. She did a very good job of that, you know, but unfortunately for her, All of that came out maybe way sooner than what she was expecting. I don't really know the game plan fully. Like they don't even know. But ⁓ yeah, it was just a really hard watch. It's just, it's so nauseating. And I'm just like, ⁓ God, like thank God I'm Mark Safe from Amanda Petula as being a friend because she's not a friend. And ⁓ I don't know. It's just, it's crazy. yeah, so like I said, by the time this episode comes out, there'll be a whole nother episode. So I'll be so interested to see how all that plays out. And then I think I'm pretty sure we move on to the reunion. And I know it's gonna be a three-parter and I'm super, ⁓ I hate to use the word excited because I know there's gonna be a lot of pain going on. But I mean, I'm just at the edge of my seat, honestly. Like I'm ready to hear everybody's thoughts, opinions, explanations, especially like Lindsay Hubbard, because I feel like I don't know, there's just something about her that I really love. I feel like she's very mama bear and she's very mama bear energy. You I feel like she's going to ask those hard questions that maybe people don't think to ask or, you know, just kind of make you a little bit uncomfortable. But I don't know. mean, I mean, obviously we heard some of that leak, so I think all of them are going to be doing that. But there's just something about Lindsay Hubbard that I really am intrigued by and I'm very looking forward to seeing like how she moves for this reunion. we'll see. But yeah, I mean, we're almost there. It's almost like Super Bowl. It's almost summer house Super Bowl, which is kind of ironic because, you know, Amanda West, they're hanging out at Super Bowl. But it's almost a summer house Super Bowl. And I don't know, I will be I will be on the couch with my popcorn. ⁓ And yeah, I will be ⁓ wide eyed for that. All three parts, all three parts. moving on like still in the summer house sphere, a huge thing, ⁓ unleashes on social media. We have West and Fessler hookup rumors, which is just kind of like, what? Like I didn't see coming at all, seems so random. ⁓ And, ⁓ know, just kind of like rubbing my eyes, like, like, did I see that? You know, like, what is going Like, how does this dude, have so many things going on in the world. Like there's so many different storylines for this man. Like I don't know if he ever sleeps. I don't know if he's drinking water, taking protein. Like this guy, like all it just seems is he just beat bops around from different woman to different woman and just consistently denies it. And I don't know why, like I really don't know why, like what the point of that is. But anyways, so. For those of who don't know who Jen Fessler is, which I'm sure you've done your research by now, but I'll just go ahead and give a little bit of background. She's a reality TV star. She was on Real Housewives of New Jersey. She wasn't a main cast member. She was a friend of for Margaret Josephs. And I remember ⁓ when I saw her on the show, like I liked her. didn't, know, cause you have some of those people that are friends of friends of, like they're so annoying and just really insufferable. And you can just tell they really want to spot on the show. I'm pretty sure she did really want a main spot on the show, but I was gonna be fine with it. I was gonna allow it, because I know Andy was wanting my approval. I would have allowed it. ⁓ I didn't see an issue with her. kind of thought, yeah, she liked to stir the pot and she wasn't completely insufferable. But anyways, so yeah, she joined the season around, ⁓ or sorry, she joined the show around season 13. But yeah, I mean, there really wasn't much that I knew about her. But anyways, so. how all of this started, how all of this like sparked up, know, she was asked kind of about the whole summer house situation. And she kind of made a comment about alluding to like, ⁓ my gosh, know, West Wilson, like he's just so sweet. Like, no, like he didn't mean it. He's like a little golden retriever, a little puppy dog, basically just kind of defending him or making it seem like he didn't really do anything wrong. which is just crazy. But so, you know, this comes out and everybody's just like all up in a tizzy because I think she's clearly the only person online or at least in the reality Bravo universe that is even remotely defending West in this situation. ⁓ But so anyway, so like this comes out and Sierra, which I haven't seen her do any direct responses to anything. I mean, she's done like subtle shades of just, you know, Instagram captions or, you know, like things of that nature, but she hasn't really made any direct comments. I don't think, or like, yeah, I don't think she has. It's mainly just kind of been subtle, but once, you know, like a clip of this ⁓ came out, she responded to it and said, LOL, it's cause they slept together. Everybody was like, excuse me, what? Like, isn't she married? which yes, she's been married since 1999, by the way. And everybody just went all up in arms. They were like, no way. And let me just tell you, there is no other group like the Bravo Universe that comes out with the receipts so quickly. It's truly so impressive. It's an art. Like if anybody needs to create some sort of course for this, I will literally sign up because it's truly impressive the way people can just dig up receipts the way that they do. years back, clips even. like, how do you even find all this stuff? yeah, so there's, they're pulling up clips from like 2024 or, ⁓ you know, like a watcher happens live like way back when. And people are just kind of like, this has to be true. And here are all the little Easter eggs. Yeah, okay, so when Jen Festler was on Watch What Happens Live, so she was on with her friend Jackie, and you know, they like to do little fun games sometimes, and Andy, you know, he just like set a game. He was just like, all right, Jen, who is your Bravo Hall pass? And Jackie, her friend, was like, ooh, like I wanna say it too, like let's say it at the same time. Like, so Jackie was speaking for Jen, like I'm painting the picture. Jackie's answer is for Jen, okay? So they're like one, two, three, and they both go. Well, Jen was being funny and she said Jackie's husband's name. So that was like, ha ha. But Jen says West, or sorry, Jackie says West. She says West, and that was way back when. So. you know, that was like a little suspicious alarm bells. Obviously back then everybody was like, ⁓ ha ha. Like that's funny. You know, not really thinking anything of it. ⁓ And then there's just pictures resurfacing of them hanging out at BravoCon. There's videos resurfacing of them being all flirty and, but I mean, you know, if you could look at it and be like, well, that's West. Cause I mean, he's literally flirty with every single person that has legs. So. is that really that unusual? But even more so, there's like a podcast clip, the yacht mess pod. I had never heard of it until now, but they're talking about BravoCon, okay? And the guest on there mentions that a real housewife did mess around with West and he didn't specify who, he didn't say which. franchise specifically, but he did say East Coast. And if I remember correctly, New Jersey is on the East Coast. you you have that to look at ⁓ and it be just kind of like, ⁓ okay. ⁓ And then even more clips are just being resurfaced where West was also on Watch What Happens Live like another time. ⁓ Andy, just loves to ask such invasive questions, which I absolutely love that about him because, you know, I wonder, he's like, just really thinking ahead because I feel like he might ask these questions because he's like, okay, in a year, there's gonna be some sort of scandal where we're gonna need some sort of information, a little clue, a little breadcrumb, if you will. And then it kind of just, you know, cause it's not direct, but it's just enough to make everybody speculate. But anyways, so he just like, Ask Wes, he's like, all right, so like, have you dipped in the older woman pool or anything of that nature? And, you know, he just basically says, yeah, you know, I slept with an older housewife and, you know, she was in her fifties and yada yada and blah, blah. And so for the record, because they haven't stated it yet, Jen Festler is as of today, 57. So I mean, even a couple years ago, last year, whatever, like she would have been in her high fifties. I mean, signs are pointing to yes, but I mean, these two are denying it, shocker. mean, yeah, I'm sure they are. Wes made a post saying, well, this is news to me. And Jen, you know, she's taking it a little step further. Like, I don't think she would do anything ⁓ actually, like legally. But I mean, she's kind of making it known. I mean, she did make a comment of just like, ⁓ wow, like that's so flattering to think that anybody that would hook up with Sierra would also want to hook up with me. But she made this statement, she said, in all seriousness, and while I can't help but be a little flattered, it is not nice nor is it okay to post something categorically untrue and defamatory on social media, regardless of whatever rumors or apparent evidence led you to that conclusion. definition of libel. If it were true, I would have no recourse because it is a lie. This can get more complicated. Having said that, I hope that we can rectify this. It's enough now. So, but they're of course gonna deny it. Why would they tell the truth? I mean, that's Wes MO. Like that's how he moves and it's how he operates. Like he's just gonna deny, deny, deny. I mean, how could we take this man for his word on anything? Like he lies to Sierra all the time and he lied about the Amanda thing. I mean, there's numerous, like why it's... Honestly, at this point, it's like anything he says, believe the opposite. know, it's like he has no credibility. I don't know. think it's true. I mean, why not? Why wouldn't it be true? You have all these things. It's like, okay, how many housewives are there on the East Coast? How many, you know, I mean, yeah, I guess probably a lot of them at this point, like in their 50s, 60s, whatever. You mean you have some in their 40s, but it's just like, there's not really like a whole lot. If you're just talking about the Bravo sphere and you have them being flirty, they're hanging out. I don't know. I believe it. I believe it. And you're to have these people that are like, no way PR stunt, PR stunt. Yes, they've been planning this PR stunt since 2024. But yeah, I don't know. It's just. And not, and here's the thing. Well, she's married. I don't know her and her husband's situation, cause I don't know. I just don't. But if we're to look at it from the West lens, I guess based on timing, maybe it's an issue, but like at the end of the day, is that really a big deal? Like just looking at it from West side? No. But maybe it's more of a big deal because she's married. So it's more of a protection for her. I'm not entirely sure because it's like, you know, at end of the day, like you're single. That's your business. ⁓ But yeah, I don't know the. They're just not backing down, but of course ⁓ we have Lindsey Hubbard. She was on the virtual reality T-Pod and you know, she pretty much said like, are you guys really shocked? Like it's West. He's a clout chaser. ⁓ Whatever is walking and talking and has some holes he's in. So that's lovely. Yeah. As we know, like he just doesn't care. Like it's just whoever's gonna give him attention, whoever is there, whoever's around, whatever the event is, he's gonna go for it. I am not shocked whatsoever. ⁓ I mean, I'm shocked in the sense of, ⁓ I wouldn't have suspected Jen Vestler, but like after you're looking at everything that is coming to light resurfacing, ⁓ yeah, like that makes sense. So I don't take anything that he says. ⁓ as fact or true. And here's the thing too, like I said, Sierra hasn't really been making any statements on just like the whole issue between her and Amanda and West already. to me, she has to have some something, right? Like I feel like she has to have something that is to prove this to be true or else why would she say it and be just so like, Yeah, it is what it like, she's not over explaining. She's not constantly like defending what she's saying. She's just like, ⁓ like that's what it is. Like matter of fact, granted could somebody tell her that and it wasn't true potentially, but she's working with what the knowledge that she has and I trust it to be probably factual. Like whatever she has is ⁓ hard cold evidence. ⁓ We'll see if anything else comes of it. I don't know. I could see it being something that just like dies down because there's constantly every day there's something new, something more exciting and ⁓ to stir up, know, drama, to stir up the buzz. But I would love to see this little saga have a close. I would love to see that have an ending because I want to know. I really do. ⁓ Unfortunately, the reunion's already ⁓ recorded so we won't have Andy pressing if they do want to do a little sidebar asking him about her but you know in due time in due time I think we will get it Goodness. Okay, so we're gonna move on to the next outrage that people are having. And honestly, yeah, rightfully so. I couldn't agree more, The Valley. And I think I mentioned this on the last pod that The Valley just was not doing it for me. But this last week's episode, Danny is just, he did not paint himself in a good light. I don't know what happened. Let me be clear. I feel like a lot of the fans, myself included, have stated that this couple is really boring. mean, their main, ⁓ let's see, like storyline, if you will, was are they gonna move out of the valley or not? Granted, things started coming more to light about Danny and his drinking and his behaviors when he's drinking. know, he doesn't just like... drink and like have a good time and like knows when to cut it off, when to stop. And then apparently there's just like some extra behavior that comes with his drinking that he can't manage, know, kind of being a little handsy and making women feel uncomfortable. And that was kind of, you could see when that narrative was coming to light last season, that it was making Nia very uncomfortable because I mean, she's been very open and honest with the fact that she loves to appear perfect. I mean, She's like, Miss USA, like, gosh, I don't even remember her title, but like she did pageants. Like she is very much always put together, smile on her face, very everything's fine, know, like juggling all the kids, but it's no big deal. Like you don't see an ounce of stress on that woman. And so you could see when this narrative was coming to light and people were. bringing awareness or not awareness issues, know, taking concern to the fact of Danny's behavior, but she did not like that. She did not. I'm honestly shocked that they showed back up on this season because I would have thought, okay, she's starting to see it shift of like, okay, now we got to start having like an issue, a storyline, whatever. Not saying that that didn't actually happen, but you know, the beginning of the valley, was very much like Jackson Brittany were like the center core piece of issues and like, Jesse and Michelle, you know, eventually like if you want to keep your spot, like you got to have something entertaining going on or something to keep a peak interest. You can't just always be the kumbaya. So I think when that started to shift towards her, she didn't know what to like, it was probably very much like, all right, you got to get your drinking under control at least in when we're filming, you know, because What we see with this past episode of The Valley, they're all going on their trip, whatever, it's like the whole gang. Mia and Kristen, they both have very young babies, so it's like they can't leave their babies. So they bring their babies, they bring their nannies, babysitters, whatever you wanna call them, at least so that way they can still like. do their own thing, but like they're still gonna be able to take care. You know, they're not ready to just like have like a whole babysitter for a whole weekend, like not with them there. ⁓ But anyways, you just really see him being a jerk to Nia and jerk, and that's me putting that very nicely. The way he was so rude to her, like, I just wanted to give her a hug. It was so incredibly uncomfortable. they're all trying to go to an amusement park. They're trying to have a good time. You know, Nia's like, trying to get the baby to go down so that way they can go out, have a good time. She is asking her husband to help her put the baby down. Immediately, he's annoyed. I'm sorry, are you not an equal contributor to this child being born? Like, hello, like you can put your child down, it's okay. But he's just so annoyed. It's almost like he wants nothing to do with it. Then he's also annoyed at the fact that Mia, you know, she's like, can you please help me? But then she's eating a sandwich. You know, he was like, ⁓ you're eating, you're eating. ⁓ Give me the swaddle. Like just he couldn't handle it. Like, and she was like, ⁓ my gosh, like I just needed two seconds to myself as she should. Why shouldn't she? But Danny could not see beyond the fact that they brought their babysitter, they brought their nanny, whatever. Why is she not handling all of this? Like, why do we bring her? if I'm gonna be able to, or if I'm have to do this. It's like, that is the worst attitude that you possibly could ever have. Like, I don't know. It was just really disgusting and honest, just so cringe and just so, ugh, just not attractive whatsoever. It's like, I get it. Yeah, you did bring the nanny and the babysitter and she will play a part in this vacation that you guys are trying to have. But I think when it comes to like, okay, we're trying to get the baby settled down so we can. then go out, you know, at least like we're trying to do that, make the baby as comfortable as possible. Then the nanny babysitter takes over from there. ⁓ But yeah, he just didn't want anything to do with helping his wife put their baby to sleep and didn't like the fact that she was taking a little moment for herself because everything that that told me is just like, he just views her as she needs to handle everything. And I'm sure she does. And I'm sure she probably most of the time doesn't have an issue with it and doesn't say anything because you could clearly see he was like beside himself that she was asking for a favor. And I don't know. It was just like laughable at the same time because it's like he just, don't know. He just like couldn't handle it. But then they finally move to the We're like at the amusement park, okay? The nanny babysitter's in full swing, okay? And it just was really sad because you see Mia, like she's trying to be like, oh my gosh, okay, I am kid-free. I have no kid climbing all over me. It's me and you, we're with our friends, we're in an amusement park. Like it's supposed to be fun, it's supposed to be light. Like let's let loose, let's let our hair down. Like let's go have fun. he just has the worst attitude. He's like, what are you doing? Like, this is so performative. you're, and she's like, are you kidding me? Like we're finally without any of our kids, let's go have fun. And she's just trying so hard. She's like, Oh, let's go ride a roller coaster. Ooh, ooh, look, there's all of our friends. Like they're eating. And he just makes the comments like, no, they're drinking. And it's like, Oh, are you okay? Like I truly viewed it as like, He's pissed off that he can't drink. I don't know, like again, this season, there's only been like what four episodes maybe, but it's like, I don't know if he's been instructed by Ne-Ev like when cameras are up, you are not allowed to drink because you clearly can't handle it. I don't know. Or if it's just something that they're completely implementing move. Like I don't really know the situation, but the vibe I got was that he was upset that he had to have some responsibility taking care of his kid and that he wasn't drinking and you know, cause it's just so interesting that we're seeing him in this light because so far we've just viewed like seeming like their relationship was super healthy and happy and he's the happy go lucky party guy like always got that smile on his face like just a good time man. Yeah, like it's just a good time like blah, blah, blah, blah. But obviously we're seeing a very different side and something about it was so dark like, and I get it, you know. marriage, like you're gonna have tiffs every once in while. Like that's not unusual. Like let's not pretend like, mean, like that's just gonna happen. But I think, you know, if you're in a situation and not to say to like, be fake because the cameras are up. But again, like Nia said in her confessional, like we have so far few moments where It's just us without a single kid. Like, let's like just try to have, like he could not shake whatever was up his butt by any means. And the thing is, is like, we don't even know what's up his butt. Like he didn't even really specify that in his confession. Like if there was something to let the audience know why he was behaving the way that he was, I mean, he did say that he was frustrated, but what he was frustrated on was just something so ridiculous. It's like, yeah, dude, you're married. and you're a father of these kids, like, what do you mean? Like, you're frustrated that you don't get time with your wife. Now you have time with your wife and you're just throwing up all over it. It doesn't make any sense to me. It was just a really bad look. you know, and here's the thing too. It's like, you know, again, not to be fake, but it's like, you know, cameras are rolling and you're still choosing to behave that way. Unless the cameras have gotten him acting like that several times before. but we've just had bigger issues like bigger fish to fry that they were editing that out. They were cutting that out, not including that, making that narrative for him so that he felt comfortable enough to do that. Maybe that's it. I don't really know, but I hope we get some more clarification. I haven't seen either of them like address the buzz about it online or anything like that, but let me just tell you, I just didn't like it. I didn't like it at all. And yeah, there's just something dark about that their marriage, their relationship, because you can very tell like Mia just wants things to be good. She wants things to be happy. She's a people pleaser. She's said that before, you know, she's like, I just want to be sure that everything goes well. So it just, what it showed to me in that little segment was that she maybe tips to tip toes, walks on eggshells. I don't know, but she does everything that she can to make sure that Danny's happy. ⁓ So if something isn't going the way that he wants. And again, by the time this comes out, like there'll be another episode out and we see that behavior continue. Like that wasn't just like a one-off that situation. Like it continues through that whole trip. So I'll definitely be touching on that ⁓ next week's episode because that will be continued obviously. ⁓ Alright, so now going on from reality TV and moving into influencers Because we just have some wild things going on I guess this is kind of like a mix between reality TV and influencer, but not reality TV yet But miss Avery woods. ⁓ man. She I don't know what she's thinking I don't know what she thought she was really doing with this. I thought it was very loser II behavior just weirdo behavior, L7 weenie behavior. It just was not, I don't know, cute, whatever she was trying to do. It didn't hit. It didn't hit for anybody. But anyways, she just kind of posted a video and made it like the caption of, why are you on a reality show? Basically, why her? Why is she picked? Why is she gonna be on Secret Lives of Orange County? So she was just kind of like mocking everybody all up in her comments. constantly saying that. ⁓ But anyways, so she posts that, but then someone commented on the video and said, quote, she's got to pay for the new house somehow. Okay, let's talk about that comment. Is that a crazy comment? No, I've seen a million times worse comments about Avery, ⁓ to Avery like on her videos, like that I wouldn't even blink an eye over that. One is probably true, but just like, Was that really insane? But something was going on because Avery was like, I'm not gonna let this just slide by like this chick is not going to get away with what she said about me. She went to this poor girl's Instagram account. She took one of her pictures and Avery decided I guess she screenshotted a picture and Avery decided okay, this is gonna be great. This is gonna be a really good idea. I'm going to post this to my story. And put a little caption. The caption is, why are the cutest girls always the meanest? Anyways, you're beautiful. She tagged the girl's username and said, hope you have a better day. Heart and hug emoji. Okay. really, like, I don't know if she thought, okay, I'm gonna have all my supporters, all my followers, they're gonna go and just attack this girl. They're gonna go online, bully this girl. Like she obviously had an agenda for doing what she did. Like people that share other people that are talking about them saying something very rude or whatever. It's to put them on blast, yes. And is it warranted sometimes? Absolutely, because sometimes they say the most vile things and they deserve to have their name exposed. But what this girl said was just nothing to me. It was a nothing burger. Why is this something that you are bringing attention to going out of your way to get a girl's picture from her profile? post it to Then Your Story and basically just like opening the door for this young girl to get a lot of hate coming her way. ⁓ But don't worry, like that girl, she made it very well known to Avery. was like, hey, listen, like, I don't think you knew what you, ⁓ sorry. She was basically saying, it didn't go the way that you were expecting it to. So she got like all these followers. And anyways, she just was like, okay, like that was cute that you did that. whatever, you got me more followers, whether that's a good follower or a bad follow, you upped my follower count, so thank you. And then Avery responds, you need help blocking you so you don't have to keep coming back to harass me, wishing you nothing but healing and love. But it doesn't stop there because Avery then after that went out of her way to figure out, know, she Nancy drew it, what college this girl goes to. So, Once she figured that out, she took it upon herself to message the university and then she screenshots said message to the university to this girl basically letting her know she goes gave your university a heads up because I'm sure they don't want to bully attending their school praying hands emoji peace and love and healing. And I just you know you could see like it's kind of blurry but you can kind of see the bottom of like. the message that she sent to the university. And she basically is like, she's publicly and privately harassing me. Like I just, wanted you to be aware of the kind of student essentially that you have at your university. So I don't want, I don't think you want that and expect that of your students. ⁓ Wow. I don't know. That is just absolutely crazy. So of course everyone is calling her out being like, that is actually insane that you did that, that you took the time to do that. Like I mentioned, there's some things that people say that are so vile that sure it could warrant reaching out to a university, a job. people say some really crazy and scary things on the internet, absolutely. But that did not seem like it warranted just anything, even an acknowledgement. Like I just don't know what it was about that comment that really just sent her over the edge. And the way she moved, to reach out to the university is actually insane. Like that, I don't know. I don't have any other words other than L7 weenie. Like that is just crazy. And she's not doing herself any favors. Like she's already has so much against her. Like people just don't really like her and vibe with her. Again, before I talked about her, you know, being on the upcoming cast for, you know, the secret lives of Mormon wives, Orange County. I didn't really know too much about her other than the name really. ⁓ And then the more research that I've gotten, it just seems that she's just, you know, just turned really different once the fame kind of hit her. ⁓ But yeah, so whatever she thought she was doing, didn't land, unfortunately, for her. But I just, don't know, hopefully nothing happens to that girl. I just think the college is gonna be like, okay, we have literally so many other things to worry about. Thank you so much. ⁓ Next. But ⁓ yeah, maybe we'll see that close the loop. I don't know. But yeah, it's just not looking good for her. Not looking good. She doesn't do any herself any favors. It's like, okay, you're gonna be on the show. People aren't a fan of it. Maybe just like don't do anything stupid. But then again, you know what they say, know, any press is good press. I don't know, maybe, but you know, this also goes for James Charles and the Spirit Airlines Outrange. Okay, before I get into that story, I just have to say, I can never not hear Mickey Mouse now when I hear James Charles speak. And I don't know what it was, but somebody made a video or a comment maybe it was forever ago, just kind of like, is it just me or does James Charles sound like Mickey Mouse? It's like, if you close your eyes, I'm in Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Like I am in Disney World. Like I just cannot not hear it. So anyways, I honestly like I don't ever see his stuff. Like I said last week, anybody that was really popular during pandemic and maybe like a little bit pre pandemic, I don't see anymore. It's actually so bizarre where there used to be everywhere. I just don't see. So anyways, it was just kind of jarring to see him pop up. ⁓ But he took this video down. So if you're to go look for it, you won't find it on his page. But there's plenty of screenshots or mean, screen records posted. You can find it anywhere. He's just going on a rampage about ⁓ A girl reaching out to him basically saying, know, she had a job at Spirit Airlines. Of course, we all know what happened with good old Spirit Airlines. That being shut down and basically just asking like, hey, can you share this? Go fund me. Like I don't have a job, whatever. And he's basically saying like, okay, you're so lazy. Like who do you think you are? Like you don't follow me. Why would you ask for my help? Like you've not supported me. There's so many people that lose their jobs every single day. just because whatever, like I don't need to give you a handout. Like what are you talking about? Like I know that you probably reached out to so many other influencers or celebrities, whatever, asking for the same thing. Like you are white, pretty and able-bodied. Like you don't need to be doing this, whatever. All right, so here's the thing. His delivery was incorrect. But I do think he kind of has a point. I mean, would I ever do that? No, I think that's really weird. I always find it so weird when I'm scrolling Instagram or TikTok and like the video that somebody's posting like is just, let's say it's just like a get ready with me and then you just see like some random person being like, hey, would you share my GoFundMe? Like, it's really important. Like, would you mind? It's just kind of like, I don't know, I don't know. But of course I've never been in that situation. So I can't. fully say, but like, just know that I wouldn't. And to his point, you he's like, you don't even follow me. Like, maybe it would be different if it was somebody that he has seen for a while, responding to his stories with support, love, you know, being a fan, like followed him. I could see that being like, okay, yeah, I'll give you a hand and help you out. I'll share your link. Sure. Why not? Out of the goodness of my heart. how he presented it was just not the best look, know, calling her a lazy POS and just being like, who are you to think like you deserve to get help when so many other people are going through this and like not even just the Spirit Airline people, but so many other people every day are losing their jobs. It's like, I get what he's saying, because so many people do have things that they need help with, of course, absolutely. And yeah, if you don't, like I said, if you don't follow him, like why I get it, I see what he was saying, honestly, like I really truly do, but everybody was so pressed about the delivery. And again, yeah, that probably wasn't the best ⁓ delivery. He could have just ignored it. He could have had those thoughts and just not ⁓ bring it to the public to just make himself look terrible because guess what? Guess what happens? In this sphere, once you upset and offend people, then you have to... backpedal, you have to then make an apology, you have to remove it. And then it's like, why are you making an apology? Because you don't mean it. Like you meant what you like, you said it so with your chest when you were first doing it, like you, you're not sorry, you know what I mean? So it's like, don't do that. But that's where I'm just kind of like, what did you think really was gonna happen with this post? Again, I see what he I see the thought process, honestly, like I truly do. Cause it is kind of wild to just be like, Hey, mean, granted this person, yeah, she's probably like, whatever. I have literally nothing to lose. I'll message every single person that has an Instagram possible, but to kind of just go out of your way. It's like, ⁓ I don't really follow them, but yeah, I'll message. I don't know that alone is weird. And also too, mean, let's be real. There's so many scams out there. There's so many scams. mean, you get scam calls being like, ⁓ I need you to come pick up. your daughter, she's here, you know, like I get it too. So the whole thing is just bizarre, but I mean, I'll say it. I don't think James was wrong, truly. Like I think, I don't think he was wrong. Delivery, yeah, definitely could have been a lot better, but like his thought is correct. But yeah, so I think that's it that I have for reality TV. Influencer drama like there is so much always it's always just like a buffet of things to go over Yeah, I think I think we covered everything that I wanted to go over We're gonna end this pod with my chic and weak of the week. You know, we will not skip that my chic of the week is Mr. Spencer Pratt, know, I gotta say whenever I first saw that he was going to be running for mayor in California, like my stomach like, you know, a little bit because I just, I'm like, ⁓ no, ⁓ no, like an X reality star running for, but like, let me tell you what I've been seeing, like his debates, like his statements, his stances, his ⁓ just everything that he's going through with his campaign. I feel like he's been crushing it. I mean, I just am really impressed. Whether he wins or not, how he's handling it, seems very much like he knows what he's talking about. He knows his stuff. He's coming full force. Like it is not a joke to him. Like he's taking it very seriously. And I think, know, when you see kind of like public figures running for political positions, you just, it's kind of hard to take it seriously in a sense. but seeing him now in this sphere, I mean, I feel like he has a very strong chance and I mean, he's just like crushing it. And to me, I think that's chic. Absolutely. All the flowers to Spencer Pratt. Like I think he's crushing it. Heidi's got to be so proud. ⁓ So yeah, absolutely. Kudos to Spencer. And my week of the week, I'm not going to go too much more on him because I already talked about him plenty, but Danny from the Valley. He's got to figure it out. He's got to cut that out because he seems to have a really precious wife who would do anything for him and provides a very, you know, beautiful life like children taking care of the home and, ⁓ you know, making sure that everything runs smoothly. And I just don't think that his behavior is acceptable, warranted. I don't even see like a side, like even if you're frustrated, that's just not the way to behave and ⁓ embarrassing her like that. Like, ⁓ it's It's just so weak. yeah, well, that is my chic week of the week. Thanks for listening to the Drama Drop, you guys. Be sure to like and subscribe anywhere that you listen to your podcasts and follow me on all socials at the.drama.drop, because somebody has to talk about it. Until next time, love you guys. Hey guys, welcome back to the Drama Drop. I have another solo podcast for you coming in hot. We got a lot of things to discuss. Taylor Frankie Paul versus Mikayla Whose side are you on? We got some more Summer House, and Jen Fessler drama. Never that coming. Anyways, stay tuned. It's gonna be a good one.