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NFL Top 10 QB's going into next season/ NBA Championship Tier List! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: ninety six of the so called Sports tedle List. There's
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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, just wanted to interrupt this pod really really quick.
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  Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the episode. So we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: some football. It's been a while since we talked some football,
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  Speaker 1: just do to just us being busy, sickness, all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But the last thing that happened of the football season
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  Speaker 1: was a Super Bowl. So, like you were mentioned in
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  Speaker 1: Marco's Eagles, they won forty to twenty two. Was there
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  Speaker 1: anything just in general you took away from this game?
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  Speaker 3: Here I took away from this is the Chiefs are overrated?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, perfect way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: And okay, so I got a question for you because
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  Speaker 1: there was all this goat talk as far as Patrick
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes being up there with Tom Brady. So do you
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  Speaker 1: think that Patrick Mahomes still has a chance to catch
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady? As far as goat status wise or is
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  Speaker 1: it completely done.
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  Speaker 2: I would say yes, he starts a chance because I mean,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, he's still is putting
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  Speaker 2: up the stats he's putting up, he's still having a
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  Speaker 2: winning record, he's making the Super Bowls. Yeah, doing all this,
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  Speaker 2: But will this like put a smudge on his record?
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  Speaker 2: I believe it will. So, yeah, he's got to do
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more than Tom Brady has done if
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  Speaker 2: he wants to have the goat title.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you one hundred percent. I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about it. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like there's recency bias. As far as with Pat Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: I just think that it happened right now. So everybody's
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  Speaker 1: like they're gonna just be drilling him for it, compared
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  Speaker 1: to Tom Brady when he lost his Super Bowls, Like
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  Speaker 1: the last one he lost, he was twenty seventeen, damn
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  Speaker 1: near ten years ago. People they're not gonna remember that exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So and as far as this other guy, because you
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention it. You're a Cowboys fan, so you don't. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: actually I don't hate the Eagles, but you have some
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  Speaker 1: hate for the Eagles. So first I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you what does this do to Jalen Hurts, because I
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  Speaker 1: know you did in view Jalen Hurts as marquee a
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  Speaker 1: top quarterback. But does this put him in the top
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  Speaker 1: quarterback convos?
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  Speaker 3: Now I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give him like top ten quarterback now because
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  Speaker 2: I mean he did put on a good performance through
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and also in the Super Bowl, like he
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  Speaker 2: did show out. Yeah, I mean he did well even
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  Speaker 2: though like Saquon was, he was playing good, but like
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't playing like the standard that we saw all
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  Speaker 2: season with say yeah, and it was mainly the Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Hurts show the entire time.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say, yeah, he's a top ten quarterback now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I would definitely agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about top ten quarterbacks going to
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  Speaker 1: in the next season in a little bit later, so
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  Speaker 1: tune in for that. But I just want to list
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  Speaker 1: some quick stats here. So as far as Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: the first eleven drives when it was actually meaningful, his
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  Speaker 1: completion percentage was fifty four percent, one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: total yards, six point seven yards per pass, one touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: three interceptions, and fifty two point eight QB rating. So personally,
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  Speaker 1: how I felt about this, I think that I think
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  Speaker 1: that Pat Mahomes I wasn't worried about him going into
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I think that was the last guy
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  Speaker 1: I was worried about. So did Pat Mahomes' performance Did
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  Speaker 1: it shock you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I would say Pat mahomes performance was super underwhelming because
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  Speaker 2: I mean you got to think, like, what is it.
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  Speaker 3: He's been in four different super Bowls?
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  Speaker 4: Right, five? Five?
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  Speaker 3: Now? Yeah? Five five super Bowls.
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  Speaker 2: He's been in five super Bowls and all of them
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  Speaker 2: he's like not like been underwhelming at all. But this
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  Speaker 2: entire time that Super Bowl, he just he just didn't
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  Speaker 2: look like himself. He looked horrible.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And even even in the Tampa Bay Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: he didn't look that bad because I remember we were
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  Speaker 1: watching that live and we're like, Pat Mahomes, he's not
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  Speaker 1: playing bad in this game. His offensive line is just terrible.
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  Speaker 1: But in this game, like his line was bad, but
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes the reads that he was making, they were terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I think that what really stealed the deal, at least
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  Speaker 1: for me. I think after the Eagles they went up
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  Speaker 1: ten zero, and then that pick six. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like it's almost a rap, but hey,
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  Speaker 1: you get the ball at half, maybe you score it's
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  Speaker 1: ten to seventeen going into half.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever. But then he threw another pick, so then after
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  Speaker 4: that pretty much twenty four zero. It was pretty much
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  Speaker 4: a rap from there.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I want to say one thing about one
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  Speaker 1: thing about this defense still wins championships. Defense are still
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  Speaker 1: the main key. I know there's a main inferensis as
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  Speaker 1: far as offense and as far as you need the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: you need the running back, you need this. Personally me,
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  Speaker 1: I think the Eagles defense was the main thing here.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you feel about that? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that it's still the same thing or is this is
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  Speaker 1: the outlier as far as a defense dominating the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: No, I do believe defense does win championships. And I
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  Speaker 2: mean it's proven because I mean if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the way the Eagles played this, they shut down the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs offense the entire time, and I mean even at
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  Speaker 2: that the the Eagles offense wasn't even like they weren't going.
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  Speaker 2: They they didn't get going until I think late late
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  Speaker 2: first quarter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like late second half or second second quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't really like getting going and I mean
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  Speaker 2: so like the defense like doing its job, and I
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  Speaker 2: mean like they were getting pressure on my homes the
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  Speaker 2: entire time, not even doing blitzes. So I mean they
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  Speaker 2: could cover good at the same time, So shutting down
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  Speaker 2: the entire offense basically, I mean, you you take the
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  Speaker 2: you put the keys in your hand to win the
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  Speaker 2: game basically at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a good thing that you pointed
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  Speaker 1: out right there that they didn't blitz at all. I
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  Speaker 1: have the stat pulled up right here. They didn't blitz
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  Speaker 1: at all till the late third quarter, so win it
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  Speaker 1: really didn't matter. And in the first half they only
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  Speaker 1: gave up one first down and twenty three yards. So
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  Speaker 1: as far as I'm gonna say this, this is like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like off topic because I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to bring up Lebron on purpose just because I'm.
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  Speaker 4: A Lebron fan. Yeah, O, Lebron fed here.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I don't know if you'd agree with this.
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  Speaker 1: I think that this Patrick Mahomes him losing the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl against the Eagles is kind of like Lebron losing
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  Speaker 1: the finals against the MAVs. There's always gonna be that.
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  Speaker 1: How there's goat conversations, but it's like, oh, he lost
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  Speaker 1: the MAVs in twenty eleven, And I think no matter
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  Speaker 1: what Pat Mahomes does, honestly, I think he could win
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  Speaker 1: the next two Super Bowls and he could be what
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  Speaker 1: five and two, But they're gonna be like what happened
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  Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles that one time, or you didn't
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  Speaker 1: beat Tom Brady?
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  Speaker 4: So what do you think. I know you said he
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  Speaker 4: still has.
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  Speaker 1: A chance, but what do you think his career has
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  Speaker 1: to like? So we could definitively say Pat Mahomes he's
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  Speaker 1: the goat compared to Tom Brady. Like what stats does
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  Speaker 1: he need like m VP's championships.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think he needs?
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  Speaker 2: Shoot, you would you would need a lot, honestly to
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  Speaker 2: be pratty at this point, I mean it is gonna
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a big smudge on his his
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  Speaker 2: resume because of the fact, I mean, you got blown
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  Speaker 2: out basically what twice in the Super Bowls?
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  Speaker 4: Now, yeah twice you got blown.
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  Speaker 2: Out completely, So basically you would have to probably win.
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  Speaker 2: So let's say you win, probably what a max of
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  Speaker 2: like three more super Bowls.
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  Speaker 3: You win three more super Bowls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and out of those three, you gotta be MVP
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  Speaker 2: and probably MVP like of this of the NFL that year.
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  Speaker 3: Then you got to be the MVP of the super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl all three of those years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you gotta be like i'd say, they
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  Speaker 2: have to be like definitive like wins, like they gotta
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  Speaker 2: be like like you got to show that like you
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  Speaker 2: were the best quarterback on the field and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure, and then good, good, you're good
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  Speaker 4: and then.
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  Speaker 2: Breaking like passing records like stuff like that, like you'd
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  Speaker 2: have to do a lot in order to beat Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, yeah, I agree with you because Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was what twenty twenty one years something
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  Speaker 1: like that. And we we can't take this for granted
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  Speaker 1: as far as what Tom Brady did because.
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  Speaker 4: Like we're gonna like, we're gonna mention the AFC. It's crowded.
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  Speaker 1: There's the Bengals, they were they were not even in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. The Ravens, the Bills, one of
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  Speaker 1: these teams are eventually gonna break through. The Chiefs what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing right now, making what three straight, four straight
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  Speaker 1: super Bowls is unstustate. It's not sustainable.
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  Speaker 4: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: I could finally say the word. I can finally say
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  Speaker 1: the word. Hey, it's almost been a it's almost been
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  Speaker 1: a month. So Kobe, some slack here, Covey some slack.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, it's not sustainable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, I don't know if you have any any
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  Speaker 1: last last things you want to talk about the super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl here before we get into this next topic.
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  Speaker 2: All I had to say is the halftime show said
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  Speaker 2: a lot, bro turn your TV off.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not bad. It's not bad. I personally, I
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  Speaker 1: a ten out of ten, but it it's up there.
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm talking to the number one Drake hater
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  Speaker 1: right now, so so yeah, I know, yeah, I was
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  Speaker 1: about to say, that's that's all Kendrick Lamar, Right, I
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  Speaker 1: see what you did.
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  Speaker 4: You that's that's places. But you did that on purpose.
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  Speaker 4: You did that on purpose, right there. Yeah, we'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, let's let's not break up, let's.
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  Speaker 1: Not bring up yeah yeah, due to a certain Twitter
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  Speaker 1: Twitter stuff that's happened. But you know what, one last
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  Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna say, Josh, I know you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: listening to this, but what happened, man, I'm gonna you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna share this right now. Josh left
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  Speaker 1: the super Bowl party early. He left in the early
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So I think that was more disappointing than anything.
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  Speaker 1: I expect the Chiefs to win, I expected Pat Mahomes
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  Speaker 1: to win, but for Josh to leave the super Bowl early,
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  Speaker 1: that was the most disappointing part of the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, just just be a better sport
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  Speaker 1: about it. But but no, let's go let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and move on. So next thing we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: is the top ten quarterbacks in the NFL right now,
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  Speaker 1: So all of this it's all opinion based. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna or I'll let you get the floor for your
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  Speaker 1: first quarterback and you give your explanation why you think
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  Speaker 1: they're the first or they're the best quarterback in the league,
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  Speaker 1: or if you want to list all one through ten,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, the floor is yours.
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  Speaker 2: I'll start off with number one, and honestly, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: give it to Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 4: I was not Pat maho Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm gonna give it to Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly it's because I mean, I do think Pat
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes is like one of the best quarterbacks any he is,
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, Josh Allen this year did have a
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  Speaker 2: great year, and like, in my opinion, he's on the
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  Speaker 2: break of actually making the Super Bowl. He is right there,
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  Speaker 2: like right on the version of doing it. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, okay, Now we got some Now
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  Speaker 1: we got some different we have some different opinions in here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: See this is what I like, This is what I
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  Speaker 1: like something something so so Yeah, Pat Mahomes, I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: him number one. I know it was a terrible Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl for him, but I'm not gonna be crazy here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Pat Mahomes he's still the best quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why he was in the goat conversations
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  Speaker 1: even in a worse year. He Remember, he didn't have
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  Speaker 1: Rashid Riights, he didn't have Hollywood Brown. So and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna reload this this new or more weapons and this
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  Speaker 1: offensive line is gonna get revamped. So I'm not worried
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  Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes until further notice, until somebody beats him in
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  Speaker 1: the AFC. He is clearly the best quarterback in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll tell you this. I have Josh Allen too.
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  Speaker 1: I have Josh Allen too. But who's your number two.
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  Speaker 3: To Pat Mahomes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so so we we got it flipped. So okay,
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  Speaker 1: what's the number one reason why you have Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: ahead of Patrick Mahomes? Like if you just had to go,
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  Speaker 1: like based off of one thing, like one.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, I'll give the I feel like the ceiling might
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit higher now for Josh Allen at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, like like I feel like eventually he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get the job done. And yeah like that, I mean
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  Speaker 2: we've seen he does get the job done without like
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  Speaker 2: weapons like stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's only a matter of time before
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  Speaker 2: the Bills surround Josh Allen with like a good defense
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  Speaker 2: and like a good offense and then eventually that that
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna look like.
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  Speaker 3: A scary team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like you're right, and yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: that that makes perfect sense. Yeah, no, I already know
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  Speaker 1: Josh listen to this. I already know he's human. Whenever
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: he comes back, well, whenever his computer gets fixed, whenever,
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  Speaker 1: whenever that is, I know he's going to be heated
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  Speaker 1: and he's gonna be throwing some shots.
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  Speaker 4: I already know.
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  Speaker 1: But no, no, I could see that point because Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: he did have one of the best offensive lines, but
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  Speaker 1: the defense was shaky. The receivers there were pretty shaky.
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  Speaker 1: Your number one receiver, it was keyon Coleman, Lamark Cooper
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  Speaker 1: really didn't pan out for you. James Cook was good.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I could definitely see them getting better.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, well, go in a list number three
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  Speaker 1: and number four. As far as for your quarterbacks here,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this should be pretty
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  Speaker 1: consensus here as far as with three or four, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Number one threw me off, So I
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  Speaker 1: for a turn here, Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So number number three, I will go with Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 3: my three. Yeah, and are you gonna go with number four.
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  Speaker 4: I knew it.
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  Speaker 3: I do, I do, I do DA at number four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, okay, hold on, wait, okay, I have
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson three. We're not going to talk about Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson like, no dispect to Lamar Jackson, like he's a
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  Speaker 1: talk to quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: He could argue, he could be argued one.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, even as a Cowboys fan here after this season,
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  Speaker 1: having Dak Prescott number four, please give me your reason why, please.
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  Speaker 3: I would put DA at four because this is a
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  Speaker 3: this is what for next season? Right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: For next season?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna come back to this podcast when Dak's
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: in the m v P race one more fucking time.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not gonna say all that. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 4: say that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Whatever that leads us to another winning record.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah there, that's a lot more unbelievable.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Record. And he's the m v P or in the
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: m v P race.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't come back to this podcast episode and
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: see why he's put him out for Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: No, okay, Well, if you're right, I'm telling you if
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: if you're a spot, I hope you're right. If Dak
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Prescott's in this m VP conversation. Well, let's let's not
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: get a twin. You're Dak Prescott. There was a reason
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: why he was second team All Pro before and arguably
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: should have been the MVP over Lamar Jackson. So well,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is definitely on my top ten list, but
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: he's definitely not number four. But how do you feel
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: about Brian shotten Hemmer coming in as far as the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: new staff.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Do you think that's gonna.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Elevate Dak as far as to being back to that
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: MVP form that he was.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like it might elevate him to be
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the MVP again, because yeah, he knows Zach a little bit,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and I mean he might actually like give him more
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like the keys to like the playbook, let him run
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the offense a little bit more and better.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Like kind of yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And the only thing that's in question for Dak is
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: his legs. That's the only thing that's the question for me.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I was, like, he can he can still put that
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the ball where it needs to be. He knows how, Like, yeah,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: he knows how to kind of evade even though he
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: doesn't use his legs much, he knows like what he's doing.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: And I feel like, and everyone likes to say the
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: interception thing, I feel like that's just because they this year,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: they put him in a horrible situation, like his defense
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: was shaken at the beginning of the year and they
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: didn't become we didn't become fully healthy until like the end.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And that's whenever you don't have a Dak Prescott to
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: like go ahead and win you games that you need.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: And then I think one thing I'll say for sure
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: is that Dak Prescott he's definitely gonna get some more weapons.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: They talked about it already. As far as they're gonna
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: address that, they're they're gonna get somebody in the draft,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: whether it's a Mecca BUCA, Luther Burden, Ashon Gent, They're
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: gonna get somebody to help Dak Prescott and make it
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: easier for him. I'll say that, but I'll talk about
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Dak whenever I get to him. But I have mister
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow number four. I know they didn't make the playoffs,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: but he had an insane year and I think if
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, I think he would have won
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the MVP. And all in all honesty, hey, maybe it
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was that bad him. Maybe it was bad defense, maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it was but hey, that dude, that dude's a bad
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: man right there. And I just think that maybe he
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: won't have the same season next year, but I could
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: definitely see him doing something a little bit less than this,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and that definitely be a top five quarterback. And let
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: me go in there, list number five, since you have
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: number five coming up. So I'm gonna put this guy
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: here because all this guy does is win.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: It's Jalen Hurts.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm putting Jalen Hurts above Dak Prescott, above these different
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: guys because at the end of the day, no matter
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: who he's surrounded by, you could say he's surrounded by
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith. You still have
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to win playoff games. And this guy consistently wins playoff games.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: These last well, not the year before. But there's a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: two there's a three year sample size of this dude
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: winning regular season games and megan into the big game
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and showing up in the big game. So I have
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to put him number five. He has to be a
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: top five quarterback for me. So, okay, who's number five
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Number five? Yeah, I'm gonna go with mister Jaden Daniels. Okay, okay,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: mister rookie himself.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah that makes sense. But so why exactly do
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you have Jayden Daniels over a Joe Burrow? Why do
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you have him over at Jalen Hurts?
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I have him over at.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jalen Hurts because first off, he was
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: a rookie and did this, and I mean, like, yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: mind you, Washington horrible has been horrible for what like
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a decade almost now.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Since yeah, yeah, pretty much, yeah, pretty much a decade.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it been like horrible, Yeah since RG three. Jayden
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Daniels came in here, led them to the conference. Yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: he put him in the conference round. So, like, you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: gotta think about it, rookie, that's crazy thing to do.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And even at that, we having a great, great year,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: had a great playoff run, and I mean, even though
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I put Dak above him just because of straight biases,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, but hey, this is a bias podcast. This is
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a podcast. We don't we don't, we don't run away
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: from that. We know we're biased. We're a biased podcast.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no question, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You're good.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Even though I said Jane Daniels, I said Dak is
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: better above him.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, That's still gonna own him all year.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: But I mean, but Jady Daniels, I do believe like
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: the ceiling is really high for him because I mean,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: even at that the team was kind of shaky. The
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: only thing promising about that team really was what the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the run game and the defense?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like but like I said, he had
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: a great playoff run. I believe that the Commanders will
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: be a team to watch for like the years to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: come from now on because of Jaden.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And they have a top five as far as salary
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: cap salary cap space, so they could make plenty of moves.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: There's talks about Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams and even in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the draft, they could surround him with more weapons and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: making that defense better.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: So I could definitely see that. So I'll tell you what.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I have Jaden Daniels number six here and the only
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: reason I'm putting him behind Jalen Hurts is like I said,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: as far as win the Super Bowl, but as far
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: as last the year before I put CJ. Shroud in
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: similar to those top five conversations. But I'm afraid of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that sophomore slump maybe something like that happening. So I'm
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: gonna ask that question. Do you think that there could
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: be a sophomore slump with Jayden Daniels here slump?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: There might be like a like a minor one, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it won't be like too bad to like where the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: point where like the Commanders don't make the playoffs.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like the Commanders will make the playoffs again
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: next year.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think they're gonna be too talented of a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: team where they can't miss the playoffs.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be like that, but it won't
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, a slump where like.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Where they'll they'll miss it completely. I think they'll barely.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: They'll probably squeeze in at like the very like end,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: but I mean they'll make it. Yeah, he does have
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: a slump.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, well, okay, so do you think he's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: gonna have a slump? Obviously, if you have him a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: top five quarterback, then obviously you don't think he is right, Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: I said no, I don't think. I don't think will
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: have a slump.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, well, hey, maybe maybe it could happen,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Pat Mahomes he didn't have a slump.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, he really didn't have a slump. He won
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the MVP the following year, So yeah, I know you,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you might not be wrong. Joe Burrow he had a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: great year the following year after that. So there's been
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: plenty of guys that's done that. So all right, so
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: who's number seven and who's number eight?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: For you?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Number seven, number eight?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Jalen Hurts as number seven
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: because I mean, just because I hate the Eagles, But
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: hey man, like I said, he put on a show
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. He did his thing. He's been
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: winning playoff games. He's been in two Super Bowls. Yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and eventually I am a hater, but hey man, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: will jump on the train every now.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But he Yeah, take for you being a hater putting
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: him number seven, that's actually that's actually pretty high.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go ahead, go ahead, you're good.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I'll get him seven.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And I think Jellen Hurts, I do think that's finally
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: officially broke. Like that little statue where they had him
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like as a top fifteen, top twenty quarterback. I think
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: he's finally he's gonna be in the top five, top
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: ten for like probably next year if he makes the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: playoffs and goes to a deep run again, I think
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: he'll be in the top five.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: You'll put him in the top five. Okay, Well, put
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: him in the top five. So you're just you're just
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: more skeptical as far as with Jalen Hurts.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You just need to see it one more time to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: put them, like for sure, top five.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, well that makes sense.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so pretty much seven through one, pretty much
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: all of them are top five guys. It's just depending
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: on how it's going and who's yeah yeah, okay.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Like it's all kind of like outn't order for now,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: but it's more like what I think will happen next
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: year for them.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay, So you're kind of like, Okay, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: see that, I see the vision.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: All right, Well who's number eight for you?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Number eight?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will go with mister Joe Burrow, mister stat
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Patter himself, Joe Burrow.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So okay, okay, so you keep saying, you keep saying
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: stat Patter, So you don't you didn't buy into this
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: season is that what you're saying, Like all this okay,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and why why exactly is that?
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Why exactly is that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't buy him because of the fact of.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: It's like a lot of the games that they did play,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I mean they were just close games and just like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a bunch of stats will be like higher than they
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: were because of like they go into overtimes like stuff
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: like that, Like yeah like that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And then I mean, like.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: There's the fact of like he didn't have a defense,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: so I'll give him like that, so like, like I said,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: he could still be a top five, but it's like
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the fact like the team wasn't healthy. So I do
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: understand a lot of that, Like his team was a
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: healthy battle line, like yeah, like things that that's like nature.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: But then I mean there was games that like he
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: played bad teams and then like we had mister Jamar
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Chase going for like four hundred yards a game.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like things like that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: So like the biggest thing is like or for you
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: is that he just didn't get the job done in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a certain certain situations when it was close game. Because okay,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: well yeah that makes that makes a lot of sense.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: So so what you're pretty much saying is that you
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: trust one through seven those guys more than Joe Burrow
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: at the moment. At the moment, yeah, okay, okay, okay.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: He cold, he can change his position a lot like
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: in the in this list.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, No for sure.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like the top eight that's where you could
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: just list like they could be in any order that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: So yeah, my my seven and eight.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: So I have Dak Prescott seven here and I have
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert eight. So I'll talk about Dak Prescott first.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, like you were saying, the biggest thing is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: is legs. As far as is he gonna be mobile still,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: But I think them giving him another weapon, whether it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a running back or receiver. You still have Seed Lamb there.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really scary for him next year.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: They're gonna make it really simple for Dak Prescott. I don't, Okay.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: The reason why I don't think he'll be the MVP
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: conversation not because he'll have a bad year, but I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna slow down the game a lot for him.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: They're gonna make it where, okay, you're gonna run the ball.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get Ashon Gent. I'm pretty sure
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get Ashon Gent. Jency's gonna get
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the ball twenty maybe twenty five times a game. The
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: defense are gonna be a lot better, they're gonna be healthier,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott will only need to do a little bit,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit to win the game, if that makes sense,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: not enough or there's not a lot of pressure on him.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So all these Kendrick references right here, all these kid,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it tally. How many Kendrick references you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: already have? You already had three, You already had three
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: right now. Let's see the tally at the end of this.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, no, so yeah, that's why I have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott seven because I don't think he's gonna have
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to do a lot next year, so it's gonna be overlooked.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But number eight, I have Justin Herbert here. So Justin Herbert,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I think he had his best year as far as
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: with Jim Harball. Yeah, I have mister Jay Herbal here
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: number eight, and he had Lad McConkie who had a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: great rookie year, Quinn Johnson, he had up and down games.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But I think this is another situation where he's gonna
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: be a little bit overlooked because he's not gonna have
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the prettiest stats. But he's gonna get another weapon in
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this draft, this year or in free agency. So they
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: have the offensive line. The offensive line is intact, so
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he has more than enough talent. He can make any
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: throw like any any of these guys, and all the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: way from Pat Mahomes to right here, he can make
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: any throw. He can go throw for throw with these guys.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So that's why Justin Herberts eight from me. Yeah, so
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: all right, that's for it. Okay, Number nine and number
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: ten to close out this list, who's your number nine
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and tenth rank quarterback going in the next season?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Number nine I have I'm gonna go with I hate
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: this team too, man, I hate this team too. Man.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go mister Jay Love.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Daniel j oh Yeah, now into a real topic.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: That's what I like to hear.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: No, but okay, why do you have Jordan Love number nine?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I have Jordan Love at number nine because of the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: fact that I mean, he's he's a good quarterback, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I do feel like the Packers are starting to surround
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: him with the better team, and I mean I would
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: say they had an underwhelming playoff run, but I mean
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: they did play the Eagles, and I mean we just
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: saw what the Eagles did to the Chiefs. That's true
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: superpower of the NFL right now.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, I would say they had an underwhelming
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: playoff run, but I mean you ran into them, So
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I would say, like, like I said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: jayl had a great season even though he was dealing
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: with injuries and stuff. And I think if you stay healthy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: he'll be, uh, he'll be higher on the rank than
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he is right now. But like, yeah, I'm gonna put
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: him at ten because that's why at nine, because that's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: where I believe he is at the moment.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And do you think that they're gonna be able to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: get a weapon in the offseason, because I don't know
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: how you felt, because I think the whole Jaden Reed,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson, that whole one guy steps up.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, if.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: You could, who do you think they should target in
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the off season? Just one guy like that would make
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love, that would put him in like this best
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: quarterback conversation because we know he's a top ten.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: I have him number nine as well. I'll list that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: But who do you think they need where it could elevate?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love mhm, Ben denuc Chief.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mister, that's what they're missing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Coop Coop's gonna be a free agent, right, yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Goop Mark Cooper. He's going to be a free agent
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: this year.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I want to say that it wouldn't be a horrible
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: thing because I mean, Mark Cooper can still run routes,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you can still catch.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: We've seen it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean you still got a Romeo Dobbs
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and like like you were naming, you have all those
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: other receivers. You just need a guy who basically who
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: they're gonna respect enough that they got a guard like that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So in my opinion, I would say Mark Cooper wouldn't
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: be a horrible move to get because then you have
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a guy who they were expect enough to cover.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Like that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And then Romeo Dobbs we've seen, I mean we witnessed
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: what he did to the Cowboys.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, do you have to bring that up?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But I don't know why you have to bring that up.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: See how you're messing with my.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Mic Bi and everything. Yeah no, but.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I think that that's a realistic move that you listed
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: But I was gonna go like more like shot in
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: the dark like devant.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Adams, like like she would be the best move.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, for sure, Yeah no, that would be the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: for sure. But hey, you gave, you gave a realistic
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: move right there, So I have joined of love number nine.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to really go on anything you said
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: because you pretty much covered everything. So who do you
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: have number ten right here to round off your list?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I'm with Golf. That's perfect, that's perfect.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I completely forgot about that TikTok. I completely forgot about
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: that TikTok right there.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Jared Golf at the ten mainly for the fact, I mean,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: great season, played phenomenal and then you yeah ship the bed.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like you just you just completely like mess
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: up in the playoffs.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: And that that's why I have him at ten.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: If he had a great playoff run, I'm gonna be honest,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff would be like a top five, top five quarterback.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you had, if you had a great run,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: but nope, there was one and done.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, you you pretty much hit the knill on
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the head. And I have Jared Goff number ten here too.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: We we know all the weapons they have, Gibbs Montgomery,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: amanra Jamo, Sam Laporta. We know those weapons are gonna
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: be back. And I think that, like you were saying,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it all depends on it's all recency bias. And I
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just think recently he played like shit. He had three
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: turnovers in the first half and cost the game against
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the Commanders.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I agree with you one hundred percent.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: And this one's just a little bit different.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Right here as far as this question, who do you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: who do you think could rise into the top ten
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: next year? So I listed some guys here just in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: case you can't think of any, So the CJ. Stroud, Baker,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Brock Purty, and I listen some young guys here,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Bryce Young, Michael Pennix or if
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: there's any other guy that you could think of that
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: could potentially go into the top ten next year.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: So who would it be?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Top ten? I'm not gonna lie.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I would say Baker Mayfield w D one because I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: mean he had a phenomenal year.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like just outside of it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like like it was he had a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: banged up team. He didn't get Mike Evans back until
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: like the end of the year.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: And all it was was basically the Baker Mayfield Show
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the entire time.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: And who did they lose to the Eagles?
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: They lost to the Commanders. It was a game winning
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: field goal.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Ya, it's a close game.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Like, so I believe that Baker could like enter the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: top top ten, Like, yeah, conversation pretty soon, mm hmm.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: And another one.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Do you see any like young young quarterbacks like making
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: a like crazy move into the top ten, because I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: feel like there's always won every year. We saw him
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: on the year before with CJ. Stroud, with with Jayden
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Daniels or like a year two. Guy, is there anybody
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: that you could think of?
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Uh, I would say, I'm with the Caleb Williams. I'm
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: not gonna lie.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, we we're on the same page.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So so I I know you're not as.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Big of a Caleb Williams supporter as I.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm not gonna lie as far as a bunch
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of people, Marcos, I got a bunch of shit for
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the whole Kleb Boys.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna lie.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I was talking crazy about Kayleb Williams before the draft
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and I was saying, this dude is gonna be a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: top ten quarterback offered. But you know what, I'm gonna
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: say it again this year, he's gonna be a top
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: two quarterback. And I think Pitt Johnson, what he's gonna
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: do for this team right here, I feel like Keenan
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Allen Roma Duns and then Keenan Allen Roma dunes Ay
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: DJ Moore. Then you have DeAndre Swift there. I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they might get another guy too. So I think that
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they're really cooking and he's gonna make it simple on
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: And so Caleb.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Williams he's gonna be going into the top ten next year.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I know there's Baker, I know there's Matt Stafford Brock Party, CJ.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Stroud, but not I'm going with Caleb Williams.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be into the top ten and I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna replace If I if I had to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: say one of the guys that I had in my
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: top ten, I'd probably say Jared Goff.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: That's who I'd probably say.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Jared goff okay, but go ahead and list your top
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: ten because I want to see how this is clipped.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I want to see how this is on TikTok. I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: want to see how the TikTok Instagram everybody they receive
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: this right here.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: So who's your top ten quarterbacks? Right here? Marcos?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Fuck anything, you're gonna get cook. You know what, it's over.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: It's over, man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I have Josh Allen at one, then I have Pat
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: at two. Then I had Lamar Jackson at three.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Then at four I had the Man, the myth himself
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: rained the Cone in Prescott. Then at number five I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: had j D right, yeah, j Daniels, sorry, Jay and
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Daniels at the five.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Six it hurts right, yeah, it was Jael Hurts.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mister mister hurts himself. I hate that guy. Then
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: what seven? That's how Joe Burrow right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you had Joe Burrow, Yeah, Joe Burrow, Joe Burr Yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, yeah, Joe Burrow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Eight? Who number seven?
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: You you forgot your list.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I forgot the list man, because you had.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You had Josh Allen, Mahomes, Lamar Dak JD.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Then you had who Hurts.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Then you had Hurts, then you had I'm I'm forgetting
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: somebody right now, Okay, I don't know that. That's why
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I write my list down just in case, just in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: case I forget it. All right, guys, this is gonna
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: be the last time interrupting this episode right here. But
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I just went back and I was looking through the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: editing to find out who Marco's had for his sixth
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: ranked quarterback, but he skipped it. So he said he's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: gonna move everybody down the list, and then he has
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in his top ten. So I just wanted
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to clarify that before everybody goes on and saying he
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: forgot about number six. We end up finding that at
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the last second, So all right, enjoy the rest of
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the episode.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Well, all right, I'll have you list your top ten
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: in a second.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So my top ten I Pat Mahomes one, Josh Allen two,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson three, Joe Burrow four, Jalen Hurts five, Jayden
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Daniels six, Dak Prescott seven, Justin Herbert eight, Jordan Love nine,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and Jared Goff number ten to finish off my list.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So we already know who who your top five is,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: so we can for sure, say that. So you had
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: number one, Josh Allen, number two, Patrick Mahomes, number three,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, number four, Dak Prescott. Then you had number
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: five Jaden Daniels. Then you had number number six, you
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: had Jalen Hurts number seven. Why am I forgetting somebody?
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely forgiving.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I don't I.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Don't know, but but still I don't know.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: We're we're gonna go ahead, and we're gonna go ahead
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and move on because that top five lists.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: That's that's all we gotta say. That's all we gotta say.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: That's a great list.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, Hey, Well, we'll see, we'll see,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: we'll see how great great this list is.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm I don't know. We just have
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: two totally different perspectives on this, but on this, but.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe this pans out with this is the actual list.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: If this is accurate next year, that no, well, no,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, I'm not even gonna speak that
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: into existence. No, I'm not even gonna I'm not even
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: gonna entertain. You're gonna entertain this? Okay, last thing? Top
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: five teams for next season as far as winning the
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year, So I'm gonna go on to
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: list my top five, so.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Don't do it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, That's why I listed my top five first.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: So number one, I have the Philadelphia Eagles. Here, number two,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. Number three out the Buffalo Bills. Four,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I have the Ravens, and number five, number five, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: have the Washington Commanders because I think the Washington Commanders
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: are going to make a splash move. And on the
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: outside looking in, I have the Detroit Lions and sneaky, sneaky,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. I have them creeping
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: up slowly but surely. And then teams that are long
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: shots Bengals, Cowboys that could maybe make it. Okay, I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: want to hear this. I'm facing my chair forward, Marcos.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Who's your top five teams going into next year?
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: So I'll be realistic for the first few. So number one,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I will have the Eagles because they're the champs, so
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I'll give them the Eagles. Okay too, I will give
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs because they also been making the Super Bowl.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And I mean, as.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Long as you've got Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes that,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: do you believe you're still gonna be a good playoff team,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: like you will probably make a good run. Number three,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a I might have to go with
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the Bills because I mean, like I said, Josh Allen,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I do believe he's on the break.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like actually making the appearance.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: And the number four kidding with the Ravens.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I was waiting for it. I was waiting for But
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: at number five, I have the Dallas.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, number.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Five, I have the Dallas. No, I just I put
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the line that five.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, the lines that five. Okay, Okay. I thought you
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: were being for real real for a second.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I know we're a bias podcast, but
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you may be taking this a little bit.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: We're to put the Lions at.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Five, okay? And is there any sneaky teams? Don't say
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys. Don't say the Cowboys.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Don't say because I know Dad will. You don't believe that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I know Dad will you don't believe that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I believe we'll be a winning team,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: but I don't believe we'll be a sneaky team. Sneaky team.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's between the Commanders or honestly, the Vikings.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: The Vikings oh okay, So okay, so you think that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: with J. J. McCarthy or Sam Donald, whoever's the quarterback is,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: they're going to be back next year.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like they'll be back.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, so all.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Right, Well for this being Also, people didn't people didn't
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: know this. This was Marcus's first podcast as far as
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I doing a sports podcast. He does some game and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like I mentioned at the very beginning, but yeah, so
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: this this was an impressive forty five minutes right here.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: So hey, I put up to you, Marcus. Hey, and
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that was bravo to you. Oh all right, well, I
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: know this is where you're you're about to take off
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: right here, because I know you're not gonna talk NBA?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: So is there any last words before? Is there any
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: last words before you leave?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: My last words is hopefully Josh gets that computer fixed.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe he'll make a run for the Super Bowl too,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: but hey, maybe he shows up, who knows.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Update, like Marco said at the beginning, he's not showing
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: up for the second half, the second half of this spot.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: He's not showing up for this. So just a f y,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I just like the chiefs here. But all right, Marcos, I.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you tuning in for Josh or not tuning in.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: I'm used to end of these episodes.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm I appreciate you feeling in for Josh and definitely
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: interesting takes here. I'll tell you that definitely made this
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: interesting right here. I'll tell you that I don't know
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: if I agree with him. I don't know about that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But all right, Marcos, I'll talk to you a little
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: bit after the pod.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, all right, to see you.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Well, all right, well, this is the time of the pod.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: No loan MESSI here. So this is gonna just be
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: the solo part right here. I'm switching into my bulls hat.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So because obviously it's basketball season now, so we haven't
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: really talked basketball at all as far as what's been
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: going on in the NBA or what we've been thinking
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: about some of the moves. And one thing that we
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: really didn't talk about, which was something crazy that happened,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: was as far as the crazy NBA trade deadline. I
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: think this was the craziest NBA trade deadline in recent years.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I think the only one that I could really think
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of is Kevin Durant going to the Suns. But as
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: far as Jaron Fox going to the Spurs, Jimmy Butler
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to the Warriors, Luka Doncic, Anthony Davis being swapped from
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: the Lakers to the MAVs, and all these other small moves,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter, Kyle Kuzma, and Well, I'll talk about these
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: teams in a second, because so I'm gonna gohe and
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: break it down. So I'm going to talk about the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: trades for a little bit, then I'm going to talk
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: about the All Star Game, what I thought about it,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: what I saw from it. Then I'm gonna give a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: tier list to end it off this episode. So I
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: think that this Luka Doncic move, it was definitely crazy.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And there was more reports that came out over time
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: as far as they didn't believe in Luca being consistent,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: as far as having hard work ethic and one thing,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I would have believed it if there wasn't such thing
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: as a Shaquille O'Neill or I know people they don't
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: want to say it, but as far as Michael Jordan,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: he would golf and smoke cigars before games, go on
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: gambling trip. So these all time great players, sometimes they
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: could supersede their work ethic because they're that damn great.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And I think Luka Doncic is really that damn great.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: This dude took you to the NBA Final last year,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and that's something that you don't give up on. He's
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: a twenty five year old. And you said you wanted
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to go for somebody who's more consistent, or who doesn't
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: get injured or doesn't miss time, and you go with
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Anthony Davis.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: You go with Anthony.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Davis, a guy who's the last few years, he has
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: been pretty healthy, but has a known reputation for missing games.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And what's already happened. They rushed him back because he
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be back till after the All Star
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Game for the Lakers.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: He's already hurt and.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: He's gonna miss a month. So they definitely shortened their timeline.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that they have that superstar potential.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I think they could do damage in the West, for sure.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I could see that Kyrie Irving and all these guys,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, Daniel Gafford, I don't know when he's gonna
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: be back. Derek Ley will be back, Anthony Davis, PJ Washington,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Max Christy, all these guys around him. They could definitely
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: do damage, but they don't have that superpower. They don't
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: have that super guy that could put them over the top.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And you need superstars in the playoffs to win playoff basketball,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Like look at the past few years, Jason Tatum, Nikola Jokic,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: You've had Giannis, You've had Lebron or you could even
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: go back all through many many years. You've always had superstars.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: The only one that you can't think of is the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: two thousand and four Detroit Pistons who've had as far
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: as a collective almost made a damn superstar. As far
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: as with all those guys, Rip Hamilton, Toyan Tooryan Print
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: or not, Torrian Prince, Tayshaun Prince, Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billups,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you had those guys right there. So it would definitely
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: be an outlier if they find a way to win
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the championship this year or within next year or the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: following year after that, because it's really a three year
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: window that they have to compete because Anthony Davis he'll
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: be old. Kyrie Irving he's gonna be old by then.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: We don't know if they're going to be the same.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I know you've seen the Steph Curries, the Kevin Durant,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the Lebron James, as far as them being great in
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: their older age, but that doesn't mean every read all
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: time great will be that great when they're older, So
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I'll say that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: And one more move that I wanted to.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Look at was as far as Dearon Fox going to
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs. The biggest thing that I took
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: away from that one was first they didn't have to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: give up Stefan Castle and the Kings. They made a
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: stagnant move as far as getting Zach Levine in that
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: they're just denying the inevitable. As far as tanking, potentially,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: probably you won't get Cooper Flag, but maybe you'll get
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Ace Bailey or Dylan Harper somebody along those lines. But
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: they just need to rebuild because they're just in a
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: stagnant place where they're they're gonna complete compete for the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: play in but they're not gonna win or be any
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: legitimate threat to win multiple playoff rounds in the NBA.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: They won't, So you're better off hitting the reset button
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and getting younger guys. But as far as with the Spurs,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: so news came out today as far as Wimby, pretty much,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: it's blood clots that happened his shoulder, so hopefully he
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: gets healthy soon. But him being out, but it would
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: have been definitely an exciting duo to see Darn Fox
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and Wimby together because that pick and roll is mcaing.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: Daron Fox.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: He's one of the fastest guys in the league, so
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: getting downhill and Wimby's a he's a pop as far
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: as on the pick and pop, and he's definitely been
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: able to shoot, and he's been turning up a notch
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: going into the All Star break and now he's heard,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: so we're not going to be able to see it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: But I think if all goes well for Wimby, which
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, so I think within these next few years,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Stefan Castle, he looks like he's gonna be a nice
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: rising star. Next to those guys, he could be a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: nice s third option. Devin Vessel, Keldon Johnson, those guys,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: they're definitely nice there. So I think that's a great move.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And another piece or another trade that happened DeAndre Hunter
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: going to the Cavs. So DeAndre Hunter, he was a
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: six man on that A lot of Hawks averaging twenty
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: points a game and goes to the team with the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: best record in the entire NBA. And I think that's
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a big move right there, because first, they've been looking
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: for a three forever. And as far as from matching
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: up with the Boston Celtics, you need a win to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: match up with the Jason Tatum, to match up with
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the Jalen Brown. Will it get them over the hump?
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, but they're trying to compete right
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: now while they have this window because in the NBA,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: you never know when your window could close. Maybe Donovan,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: this is just or some theory right here, maybe Donovan
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Mitchell asked for a trade. I don't think you will,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: but there's always crazy things that happen in the NBA,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: so you never can predict.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: So they're better off trying to.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Win right now. And DeAndre Hunter he fits that perfect.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: And as far as giving them a or just a
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: better score because Isaaca Coro, yes he is a good three,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: but he's better being on the bench. So yeah, that
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: was definitely a good move right there. And as far
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: as another move that I want to talk about, Jimmy
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Butler going to the Golden State Warriors. I believe that
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: was a big move. And I don't want to give
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: away all my cards yet as far as because I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: have this tier list that I keep bringing up, but
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I'm really going to hit the Golden State Warriors right there.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: But I think it's a good move because you may
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: not be able to compete for championships.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that they have a chance. I'll tell
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: you that. But just being relevant with the.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry, with the Draymond Green era, that's what you
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: need to do when you have all time greats, because
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: say if they didn't make a move, then they would
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be still stuck in the play in which they are
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: right now. But I could definitely see them moving up
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: and they'd be stuck in the playing and Steph Curry,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: he'd be going to waste his last few great or
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: two three great years that he has. But now you
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: have Jimmy Butler. There somebody who's ready to win, Somebody
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: who we have seen in the playoffs that has done
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: some damage, that's carried a team to a finals, damn year,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: damn near whenever it was in the bubble in twenty
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: twenty or whenever they won in twenty two or whenever
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: they made the finals in twenty twenty three against the Nuggets.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: So this guy is more than capable enough of being
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: a second option and just whenever Steph Curry goes to
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the bench, he could provide some offense and even defensively
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: with Draymond Green. That's as far as just pure instincts,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: as far as just pure defensive skill, that's two of
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the leathalless combo as far as defensively they can have
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, And you definitely need that
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: in the West with all those guards that they have
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: with Shaye, John Morant, Jamal Murray Luca, then you have
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: James hard and Anthony Edwards, Kyrie Irving, you have all
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: those guys that you could list go on and on
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and on. So them definitely having that right there. That's
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: another point of attack defender, by the way, and he
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: meshes into the Golden State Warriors offense perfectly because he's
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a slasher and.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: He gets to the line. He gets to the line.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: That's one thing that the Warriors didn't do.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: They didn't get to the line. They didn't get easy buckets.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Everything was tough threes and contest the twos and the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: name of the game in the NBA is to get
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: open threes and open layups. That's the point of the game.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a mid range shot unless
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: you're a DeMar de Ruz, unless you're a Shay Giogas Alexander,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: unless you're just great at the twos, the Jalen Brunsons.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: So unless you're those guys, you're not gonna be taking
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: those tough twos. But all right, let's go in and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: talk about as far as this All Star Game, what
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I saw from that. So first I'm gonna talk about
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the three point contest. As far as Tyler Herroll winning
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the three point contest, There's been six Miami Heat players
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: to win the three point contest. I don't know what
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: it is how they always win the three point contest.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: But I thought Buddy Halt I was going for Dame.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I thought there's gonna be somebody that gets a three pe.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Well Mac mcclunk did, which I'll talk about that in
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: a second. But I thought I thought Damiel was gonna
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: get the three p but he just underperformed there. And well,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: there's no not really much talk about from the three
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: point contest, but congratulations to you, tytl hero and also
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: making the All Star Game. But as far as the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: dunk contest, Matt McClung is saving the dunk contest. Damn
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: near by himself him having a three peat, I think
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the only three peats happen in the dunk contest. And
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I have no choice but in my opinion, to put
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: him up there with the Vince Carters, with the Michael
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Jordans of Dominique Wilkins, those guys, because these dunk that
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: dunks that he's doing, and he's getting above the rim,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and let me let me see exactly his high because
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lie and see how how tall
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: he is, because I believe he's six foot he's six
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: foot two. This guy is six foot two, and damn
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: near his head is above the rim he has it
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: has to be at least a forty eight to forty
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: nine inch vertical. So and these dunks that he's making.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: To go off your first dunk being over a car
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: is insane. And maybe maybe next year, I know there
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: was rumors about Gianni's maybe getting in it, John Moran,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Zach Lavine, Aaron Gordon, those guys. Maybe it'll bring guys back,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: But even at that, I think the dunk Contest, let's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I don't let's not get it twisted because I looked
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: at it, because yes I am a younger person. But
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the dunk contest, it's been very stagnant other than a
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: few years. That was the reason why the dunk Contest
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: was gotten rid of before the before the Kobe Bryant year.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: So the dunk Contest it was basically non existent because
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: it got boring to a sense, So other than a
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: few great years.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: The Dunk Contest is boring. It's boring.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: There's just sometimes where it's underwhelming. And Mac mcclun these
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: past three years has been having crazy dunks where you
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: still tune in to the Dunk Contest. And maybe next
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: year Zach Lavine, Aaron Gordon, those guys will be in
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: in order to be a superstar dunk contest, But we
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: really don't see these superstars being in the dunk Contest
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's a mixture of them
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: not wanting to lose or something along those lines. Maybe
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: they need to give a better incentive. But I just
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: think that as far as the Dunk Contest being bad,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: like in general, it is bad.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Other than a few years.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: The last great one that we had that was a
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: duo was Aaron Gordon and Zach Lavine, but that was
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen, so that's already been nine years.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: So and then before that, you it takes a while
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: for you to go back to a great duo. As
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: far as the dunk contest, even the Vince Carter won,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: that one really wasn't a competition right there.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: It was just Vince Carter having great dunks.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna look back at Mac McClung
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and his dunks, and I think as far as him
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: being a pure dunk contest guy, he's gonna be up
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: there with the Vince Carter's. He's gonna be up there
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: with those guys. But all right, as far as the
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: All Star Game, here, first thing I want to say
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: is that Adam Silver, if your plan for the All
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Star Game was to have only thirty three total minutes
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: of basketball and two hours and twenty seven minutes of
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: commercials Kevin Hart talking and the TNT crew guys doing
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell, then you definitely ruined the All Star Game.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Even more so the All Star Game. It's there hasn't
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: really been competitiveness other than I believe it was twenty twenty.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Other than that, it's been real up and down. It's
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: been real shaky. And I like this format right here,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: as far as the teams who are competing harder moving
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: to the final round, and I think that's good right there.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: But as far as having the Rising Stars being the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: other team, I think you shouldn't do that. I think
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: here's a suggestion here that I saw on Twitter. I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: don't know who it was, it was somebody that said it,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: instead of having the Rising Stars have four different teams
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: of six players, So not only does that get rid
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: of Rise the Stars being on the court with the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: All Stars, but seeing more of your favorite players play basketball.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And one more, one more thing I want to hit
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: on before I go into this tier list. As far
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: as Lebron James missing the All Star Game, I think
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: it's overreaction.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: I really do think it is.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: And I think if it was anybody else that miss
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: this game, that did it last minute, it would have
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: not really mattered. But I think since it was Lebron James,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: people they want to put slack onto it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: And even at that, let's let's look.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: At it if Lebron James said a week ago that
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: he was going to tune into the All Star Game,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: people would have still said the same thing. See, this
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: is why the All Star Game is bad. See this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: is why nobody wants to watch it. And if anything,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: you had more people at least tune in to all
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the other things because they're like, Okay, Lebron James, he's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the All Star Game tomorrow, or even
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: before when they were doing the pregame, it's like, all right, well,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Lebron James, he's going to be in it, so I'm
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: gonna watch the pre I'm gonna do this. At least
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: you got more people to click on it before they
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: announced that Lebron.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: James was out.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: And Lebron James has been in the All Star Game
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: for the past twenty years and it's still been a problem.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: So obviously he's not the main reason why it's a problem.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: It goes down to a collective group of guys not
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: being competitive. That's what it is. And I know there
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: was rumors about the one on one tournament. Potentially that happens,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: but I think that's gonna be something along the lines
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: of a dunk contest. Not as far as it would
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: be bad, but as far as superstars not being in it,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: unless that was a major incentive for it. I know
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: they said the incentive would be a million dollars, but
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: come on, Anthony Edwards, Tshai Gegis, Alexander Luca, those guys,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: they're making more than a million dollars. I know a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars is a million dollars, don't get me wrong,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: but these guys are.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Making fifty to sixty sixty.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Five or even Jalen Brown He's gonna make seventy five
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: million the following year. So what really a million dollars
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: for them to potentially lose and get scrutinized all across
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the media.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: So I think it's.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Gonna be the lower level guys, if anything, that would compete,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: like Spencer Dinwiddie, I know he said that. I saw
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: some clips as far as Cam Reddish cooking up people
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: and one on one one on one is very different
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: than basketball. One on one is as far as if
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you could just beat the guy in front of you,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: that that's all it really is. And just hypothetically, if
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: the if that was a one on one, I'm pretty
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: sure it would be going from six to four and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: under six ' five to six ' nine, and then
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the seven footers, So the seven footers I would definitely
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: say Kevin Durants winning that one. I would say anywhere
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: between six four to six nine, I would say Shay
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: would win that one, and then six ' four and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: under I would say Kyrie Irving. But I don't think
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: those guys are gonna compete in the one on ones. Again,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be the lower tier level guys.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun, it wouldn't be competitive.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I definitely think it would be they there'd be more
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: of an incentive for them going for that one or
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: for those one million dollars. I would say that for sure,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: But I think that it won't be I don't think it's.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: Going to be the solution.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: And I'll say that, like I mentioned at the very beginning,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: having damn here two and a half hours of the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: All Star Game be commercials Kevin Hart doing a skit,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Minster Bees doing basically a YouTube video. I don't think
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: that definitely does not help out either. So they're just
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: they're just stabbing themselves in the foot right here. But
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: all right, the thing that I've been wanting to talk
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: about ever since I started talking about basketball right here,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: So no offense to all these other teams right here,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: but it's getting close to playoff basketball as of right now,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: it's February twentieth. I don't know as far as the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: adults of these games that happened tonight since I'm recording,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: but as far as I wrote this list down a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: couple of days ago, So I made a tier list
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: as far as team that actually have a chance of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: winning the NBA Championship in my opinion, So I'm gonna
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: go in and start off with the first team right here,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: or so, I have it pretty much in a pyramid,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: So I have two teams in the top tier, three
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: in the second, then then I have four in the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: one below that, and then I have five in the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: one below that. So so yeah, I don't have many
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: teams in this tier list right here. So the top
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: two that I have right here, I was going back
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: and forth right here, and I couldn't decide exactly who,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with the Boston Celtics right here.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: If I had to put it's the Boston Celtics and
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder. But if I had to put one
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: in front of the other, I would put the Boston
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Celtics in front of the Thunder. So I know the Thunder.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: They have the best net rating. They they're even passing
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: up the Celtics from last year. They have the best
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: defense by a wide margin. But I think at the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the Boston Celtics, they have not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: been engaged half of the season and they have forty wins,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: and I I think that coming down this All Star break,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: right here or after the All Star Break, I think
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: they're really gonna lock in. They're gonna tighten the screws.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think necessarily they're gonna catch the Cavaliers as
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: far as for the one seed there, but I think
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do enough. They're gonna basically say hey, they're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, let's just focus on us.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Let's tighten the screws here.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: But as far as they need Porzingis to be back healthy,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I think they definitely need that to get out of
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: the East this year. But I think he'll be back.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Porzingis. Jason Tatum, He's gotten better
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: and better. His three ball is falling this year compared
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: to in the Olympics and last year it really was shaky.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: And as far as them having some of the best defense,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and one thing that I have to put over the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder is that they've done it in the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: playoffs year after year after year after year after year,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: and they just won the championship last year. So I'm
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna scrutinize them for in the regular season not
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: being as engaged as the Oklahoma City Thunder and their
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: own only back four games of the Thunder. So and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: they're a veteran team, and I think I think there's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: over three guys in the Boston Celtics starting lineup that's
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: over the age of thirty, and Jason Tatum is the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: youngest guy who's twenty six, and compared to the Thunder
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: they have they have eight guys who are twenty six
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: and under. So naturally there's gonna be younger guys in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: regular season games, playing much harder, playing much faster than
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: a veteran team. So yeah, the Boston Celtics, they're number
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: one for me and number two, like I was mentioning
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: or in that second part of the tier, I have
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder here, and I'll tell you what
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: their defense is stifling, and it's an all time great defense.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: They're putting up these crazy numbers. And Shay Gilgas Alexander
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: as of right now, he's my MVP. He's having an
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: insane year, averaging over thirty two points. And I think
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: what really sold it for me as far as the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: thunderbeing contenders was against the Miami Heat when they were
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: down eighty three to ninety three going into the fourth
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: quarter and they went on a twenty four oh run
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: and I think it would have been holding the Heat.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: If you average it out to four quarters, it would
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: have been thirty six total points. That's something championship teams do.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Whenever they have to lock in, whenever they have to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: tighten the screws, they do that. And the biggest concern
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I have for the Oklahoma City Thunder compared to the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Boston Celtics is that we know who the number two is.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: For the Boston Celtics, it's Jalen Brown. It could be
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Porzingis on any night, and I know JDub, Jalen Williams
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and Chet Holmgren. Well, Chet Holmgren, he's coming back from injury,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna put much against him if he's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: not doing great at first, but JDub he could be
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: somewhat inconsistent at times, and I think that Shay. I'm
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: not worried about Shae as far as in the playoff environment,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I know he's gonna get his but as far as
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: having that number two step up consistently, that's gonna be
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing. I'm not worried about their defense. And
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if Aaron Wiggins he keeps doing
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: what he's been doing before the All Star Break, where
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: he was averaging anywhere from fifteen to twenty points a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: game in a playoff environment or down this stretch, I'll
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: put them number one over the Boston Celtics. I'll definitely.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I'll definitely do that. I know they play again. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: think it's in late March, the Celtics versus the Thunder.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: So that's definitely gonna be a game to watch right there.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: So that's the only thing that's holding me back from
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: putting the Thunder number one, and plus championship experience that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the Celtics have, So yeah, that's my first tier right there,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: and I think it would be disappointing if one of
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: these teams don't make the playoffs.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: Right here and all right, next tier I have right here.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I listed this tier as could be threats to the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: top teams, and I have this in order, Denver, Cleveland,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: and I have a wild card of the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start first with Denver. Denver eight game
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: winning streak. At first, it looked like they were not gonna.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Have a great year.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: I think there were like twelve in the Western Conference
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: throughout the first week, week and a half of the NBA.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: But after that, they've been doing Denver Nuggets things.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing as far as them
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: being the threats is Aaron Gordon, him coming back, Nicola Jokis.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I'm Nikola Jokic. He's the best player in the NBA.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: He's averaging a triple double, and honestly, if he wins
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: his fourth MVP, I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised. But
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the biggest X factor here is that Jamal Murray is playing.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Whenever they won the championship level basketball, and you could
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: damn here say bubble Jamal Murray.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: Jamal Murray. He just had fifty five in.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: His last game before the All Star Break, and if
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Jamal Murray can do that, then I think this team
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: is going to be a force to be reckoned with.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: And honestly, you could argue that the Denver Nuggets are
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the best team in the West because there's nobody that
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: can stop Nikola Jokic and they have that championship perience,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: like I was mentioning with the Boston Celtics. They've done
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: in time in and time out in the playoffs. But
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I think that there's one team that they do not
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: want to face, and that's the Minnesota ten Wolves there
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: and I just feel like they could just throw bodies
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: at Nikola Jokic and their defense can mess with Jamal Murray.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: But as far as I still have them number three
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: or in the first part of the tier, I think
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: that I think that they're a threat to anybody, and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they win the NBA Championship.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: I think they have the third best odds. I don't
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: know as far as Vegas as far as how they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: have the odds or the Lions, but they have the
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: third best odds in my opinion to win the championship
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: here because of what Jamal Murray and the Kola Jokic
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: are doing. And if Aaron Gordon gets back healthy because
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I know he was coming off the bench, he's gonna
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: be answered into that starting lineup. And if Aaron Gordon
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: gets back to doing what he's doing, then it's.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: Gonna be scary.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: As far as I know, their defense is a problem,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: but again, like I mentioned, veteran team, and I just
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: think that they just need to get into that top
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: twelve defense, the top ten defense, and they'll be perfectly
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: fine because as of right now, they're just a blender
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: putting people in blenders and just killing every team because
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: nobody can stop to call a Jokics on a night
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: to night basis all right, The next team in the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: tier I have the Cleveland Cavaliers.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: So obviously you could say the Cleveland.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Cavaliers they have a damn good shot as far as
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to beat threats to the Boston Celtics, or they should
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: be because they have the number one seed, But I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: just can't do it because I feel like these last
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: few games right here as far as with the Boston
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: or not the Boss Celts, the Cleveland Cavaliers, ever, since January.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: So they're eleven and six since January, and there's not
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: a coincidence that their three point shooting has fallen. So
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: at the first half of the season, their three point
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: shooting was amazing. I think from pull up threes on transition,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: they're shooting at forty five percent, which is something we've
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: never heard of before. So it's getting back down to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: normal the median obviously, like I said, DeAndre Hunter. Them
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: getting DeAndre Hunter was a great move right there, and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I just think that the biggest thing Darius Garland, Evan Mobley,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: what they did last year in the playoffs compared to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. I know they didn't have Donovan Mitchell,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: but they're gonna need to step up this year. I'm
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: not worried about the Cleveland Cavaliers against any other team
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: except the Boston Celtics. I think that they could beat
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the New York Dicks. I think that they could beat
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks, the Pacers, anybody else in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: It's the biggest thing is can they beat the Boston
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Celtics and them having the one seed as of right now.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: If they hang on to the one seed, the Celtics
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: would play the Knicks, they would play potentially the Bucks
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: where they're at right now. So I think they're hoping
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: that the Celtics can get knocked off in order for
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: them to have an easier path. And then after that,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: you never know what could happen when you're in the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: conference championship or conference finals, whenever you're in the NBA finals.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: So and obviously the biggest concern is having Darius Garland
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell as your backcourt because at the end of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: the day, your perimeter defense it's shaky. I know you
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: have DeAndre Hunter, but that's two guys who are very
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: shaky on defense, not because they don't necessarily give effort,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: just due to just they're not tall enough. They can't
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: they can't actually be a threat to a Jason Tatum,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: to Jaylen Brown, to Jalen Brunson, to those guys who
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: are going to be in the playoffs there. So that's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing right there. But other than that, they
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: have the defense, they have the talent, and that's why
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: they're fourth or second in this tier list as far
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: as the threats to the team, And like I said,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: as far as with this last team, right here. This
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: team's a wild card, the Los Angeles Lakers. So I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: know it's still way too early to put the Los
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers in this list. I feel like I feel
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: like it could definitely backfire as far as a couple
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: months from now, have the Lakers, but as far as
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Luka Doncic Lebron James. If you have them in a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: playoff setting and you're telling me you have to beat
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: that team four times, that's gonna be very hard. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: know the biggest issue is a defense, but before the
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: All Star Break, they had one of the best records
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: and the best defense in the league by landslide. So
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: obviously I know you have Luka Doncic. He's gonna be
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: putting in forty minutes, so you're not gonna have obviously,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: you don't have Max Christy no more. But I think
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: obviously there is concerns as far as them having a
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: rim protector. So I'll say this, their defense kind of
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: the same thing as the Denver Nuggets. If they could
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: just be that top twelve, top ten ish defense, I
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: think their offense is going to be more than fine
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: then being able to carry the load because when you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: put it to the other side, there's no you're gonna
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: be able to stop Luka Doncic, Austin Reeves, Lebron James,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and the shooters that they have.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Ruey Hachi Mora. He's damn near.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Fifty percent as far as catch and shoot open threes,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Dawrian Finney Smith as a forty percent three point shooter,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: gave Vincent is looking back to normal. So and they
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: have a rim threat with Jackson Jackson Hayes who's surprisingly
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: stepped up offensively, not defensively, offensively. So I just think
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: that no matter what, whenever Lebron goes off the court,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be Austin Reeves Luca. Whenever Luca goes off
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: the court, it's Austin Reeves Lebron. When Luca and Lebron
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: are off the court, it's gonna be Austin Reeves. So
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a shot creator on the floor
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: for the LA Lakers, And whenever all three of them
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: are on the court, it's gonna be scary. And one
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: thing that I'll say, Luka donci is now being on
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: the Lakers, Lebron James, you could see it, not only
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: is he more engaged defensively, but he's he's become one
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: of the best defensive players for the Lakers because because
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do as much on offense.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: That plain and simple.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: If you don't have to do as much on offense,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: create the offense the entire time, then you could put
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: more effort onto defense, and he has done that. And
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I just think that this offense is too scary to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: not have them be threats. And I think the only
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: team that the Lakers would not want to play is
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets. I think that they could put a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: really good fight or even beat the Oklahoma City Thunder
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: or any other team in the West. So yeah, that's
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: my second tier right there, as far as being threats
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to the top teams, all right, this next year, this
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: next tier is a little bit tougher, and I put
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: this tier a list as far as wouldn't be surprised
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: with any outcome. So I have in this tier the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: New York Knicks, Milwaukee Bucks, Minnesota Timberwolves, and Memphis Grizzlies.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: So I'll start with the Knicks first and I have
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: that in the order Nicks, Bucks, Timberwolves, Grizzlies. So the Knicks,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest problem with them is, yes,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: they do pose a different threat as far as it's
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: not necessarily Jalen Brunton dependent, but having Jalen Brunton and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Towns, two week defenders on the court at
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: the same time, is very scary. And I just feel
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: like sometimes their offense, it can't get stagnant, and this
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: team is poised for injuries. O Giannanobi him having that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: injury right there. Michel Bridges, he has had a better year.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: But I just think that the Knicks, I just think
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: there's just so much of in between ground that we
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: don't know of the New York Knicks because they almost
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: lost to my Chicago Bulls Bulls today and it went
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: into overtime. So it just shows how up and down
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: they are. And I feel like against the Cleveland Cavaliers,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: against the Boston Celtics, there's not going to be as
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: much room for error for for them, So that's gonna
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: be the biggest thing for them. And all right, next
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: one the Milwaukee Bucks. So I like the Kyle Kuzma
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: move that they made, So I didn't talk about that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: as far as with the trade deadline, but the Kyle
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Kuzma move makes him younger, makes them go a little
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: bit faster and makes them more dependent on the Dame
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: and Yannis show. So Chris Middleton, he would provide some offense.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: But even at that, Kyle Kuzma on any given night
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: he could drop twenty points. He could be a good
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: number three at any given time. And I was a
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: little bit concerned. I think everybody was really concerned. He
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: was on the Wizards and he wasn't playing winning, winning basketball.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: But ever since he's been on the Bucks, he's transitioned
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: into his role perfectly fine as far as far as
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: being a great defensive rebounder, a wing defender, and making
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: his threes. So we got to remember, Kyle Kuzma, he
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: was going up against the number one defensive guys in Washington,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: So now he's going up against the third fourth best
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: guy on the court whenever Giannis and Dame are on
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: the court. So I just think that they're just very
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: physical and you have Giannis who can take over a series,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: who he's a top in my opinion, he's a top
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: four guy in the NBA right now. So you can't
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: bet against a guy of that caliber who can go
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: off any given night, or he could take over a series.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: I know that they have championship experience, but I just
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: don't think they have the consistent ceiling as the Cleveland Cavaliers,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: as the Boston Celtics, or even as a New York Knicks.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: There's some up and down in there all right. Next
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: one the Minnesota Timberwolves. So Minnesota Timberwolves, they're playing very
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: good basketball right now. But also Julius Randall is her.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know when he's supposed to come back. I
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: haven't looked at that exactly, but Julius Randall, I don't
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: know how he's gonna fit into this mold right there
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: or right here.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: But what's happened is Anthony Edwards.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: He's been getting to the rack, being aggressive, and that's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: opening up for Jada McDaniels, for Nas Reed to knock
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: down threes. And whenever they're knocking down threes, you have
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards one on one, and we already know how
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Nine times out of ten, he's gonna
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: be able to get to the line or score easy buckets.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: So I think that.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: One thing that they could do in the playoffs, where
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: it's a lot more physical, they're one of the most
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: physically bearing teams in the NBA, where they could just
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: be overly physical and just shut down any team in
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: the NBA. That's what they did exactly to the Denver
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Nuggets last year, the Phoenix Suns last year, and so
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: I think that they'll pose a threat to the Denver Nuggets.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I think the Denver Nuggets don't want
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to play the Minnesota Timbolves.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say there's gonna be a for sure upset,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: but it'll be a tough series where there's not a
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: guy that could actually guard Anthony Edwards. There's bodies you
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: could throw a Jokic and Jamal Murray and you could
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: be physical with them. So I think that would be
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: the thing for the Minnesota Timberwolves, for them making it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to the championship, potentially winning a championship. But that's why
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: they're on this third tier. I wouldn't be surprised with anything.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they're out in the first
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: round just due to them not having a real number
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: two next to Anthony Edwards, or I could see them
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: making the finals because they're just a physically defensive dominant
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: team and Anthony Edwards goes crazy like he did last
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: year in the Western Conference finals. And all right, last
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: team in this tier is a Memphis Grizzlies, and I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: think this one is more matchup dependent as far as
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: if they face a path as far as the Denver
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Nuggets LA Lakers and you make the conference championship, who
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: knows what could happen from there. But I actually watched
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: this video the other day. I don't know the YouTuber,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: but it was something as far as them having a
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: different offense, not as far as roll wise, them being
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: everything off ball, not necessarily Golden State system, but something
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: along those lines and being just a different offense. And
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: one thing that's different from them this year is that
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: they're not dependent on John Urrant. If anything, Jaron Jackson
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: junior makes this team go and after winby being now
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win Defensive Player of the Year Jaron
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: Jackson and repeat from last year. So you have one
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: of the best defensive players, John Morant, who is a star.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say superstar, he's a star and he could
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: take over a game. And I just think all of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: these young guys are growing up. You have the Jayden Wells.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: You have the Zachie, you have the Desmond Baines, you
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: have those guys, Santi al Dama, Brandon Clark.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: So I think that.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: This is more as far as the others. They don't
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: necessarily have this major superstar, but as a collective group,
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  Speaker 1: they can win playoff games. And maybe it won't matter
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  Speaker 1: in a playoff environment because like I said, it's start dependent,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: but there is times where a team, a collective team
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  Speaker 1: that plays together and is very sound coaching wise, they
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  Speaker 1: could make a deep run. And that's another thing. They
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  Speaker 1: could throw bodies out of the Kola Jokis. They could
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  Speaker 1: match up well with the La Lakers because they have
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  Speaker 1: the defense obviously, but offensively they have more than enough
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  Speaker 1: pieces to score on the Lakers or any of these
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  Speaker 1: other teams. So I think this one out of the
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  Speaker 1: other four of the Knicks, Bucks, Timberwolves, I think those
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  Speaker 1: have a real shot. But I think the Grizzlies I
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  Speaker 1: have them on this tier because they're match dependent and
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  Speaker 1: still I have to give them that threat that they've
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  Speaker 1: been so good throughout the regular season and they have
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  Speaker 1: some playoff experience compared to some of these other teams
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  Speaker 1: or this other team that I may list that may
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  Speaker 1: have a similar record to them.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: This last tier that I have, which was the most
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: interesting tier, this one, I don't know exactly what to
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  Speaker 1: call it. I think it would be a long shot
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  Speaker 1: as far as they have a shot, but not really or.
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  Speaker 4: Puncher's chance.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just say that if you put them in
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  Speaker 1: a seven game series, they'll have a puncher's chance to
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  Speaker 1: win and maybe make the finals. So the first one
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  Speaker 1: in this list is the Golden State Warriors. If you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: tell me you get Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler and Draymond
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  Speaker 1: Green in a seven game series, that's gonna be a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: very tough series that you're gonna have to go in.
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  Speaker 1: And Steph Curry if he goes back into the twenty
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: twenty two finals run that he had where he averaged
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: over thirty and Jimmy Butler is a better option than
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: what Andrew Wiggins is, what Jordan Poole was, and like
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: I was mentioning with them, as far as they flow
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  Speaker 1: together perfectly, I think that they have a damn good
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  Speaker 1: shot of damn good shot if all things go right. Again,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: this is the puncher's chance tier, So it's one in
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: a million, but I would give that chance. I wouldn't
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: count it out of having those three guys in a series.
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  Speaker 4: But as far as their.
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  Speaker 1: Weakness, obviously that's gonna be being dependent on the small
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: ball lineup. Kevon Looney would have to guard or be
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: the main rim protector for him, so that's something very
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: shaky right there. And as far as just them depending
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: on these role players, the Brandon pozemskis, the Jonathan Cominga,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: the Moses Moody, the Quinn Posts, those guys right there,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know if that would be dependable as
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  Speaker 1: these other teams right here, and plus these other teams
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: have just been playing much better basketball.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the Warriors I could see.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: The Warriors are the only team that I could see
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: moving up a tier because they're still early in the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry, Draymond Green era, so maybe they
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: could move up, But as of right now, I haven't
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: been the Puncher's Chance tier. The next one I have
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: is the Houston Rockets, and I feel like they're a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: lesser version of the Minnesota timberwol That's why I have
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: him in a tier below, so I think they're just
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: one of the most physically bre dominant teams and with
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: the Mayodoka, who's one of the best coaches. But their
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: biggest weakness is just shot shot creation. We saw what
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: happened with Fred van Vliet whenever he went out that
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: their shot creation it just basically just went to shit.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: So I think if Jalen Green Albertson Gooon, fred van
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Vliet could have a finals run that he had back
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: with Toronto. If Jalen Green he could be what he
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: consistently was at the beginning of the season averaging twenty
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: five points. Sing Gooon he could be that dominant guy,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: and defensively, we already know what they could be defensively,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I have to give him
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: a puncher's chance. The next one I have is the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. So they have the fifth best record since December.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: So they have the fifth best record since December. That's
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: crazy to say the Indiana Pacers. They were ten and
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: fifteen at one point, and I believe they lost to
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the Raptors and the Mets back to back, So they
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: were at a point where we didn't know where this
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: this team was gonna go. And now they're fourth in
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference and there are six games by the Knicks,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: so they're probably gonna be at four or five here.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: But again, they made the conference finals last year. And
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: another thing, just this fast paced offense and injuries do
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: happen in the NBA, especially in the playoffs. We saw
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: what happened to the Knicks last year, so maybe they're
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: gonna just survive, just survive, stay more healthy than all
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: these other teams. And Tyreese Halliburn, he's a great shot creator,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: and we just know that this team offensively, they pose
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: many threats. So that's why I have to give him
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: a puncher's chance.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: Next two.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: These these are a little bit more interesting right here
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: that I was being a little bit more creative with.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: So this one, I have the LA Clippers. So well,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: the Clippers right now, they have the six best record
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: in the West and they're just right out of the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: playing tournament. James Harden, he went back to All Star
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: caliber and playing really really nice. They have a bunch
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: of wing defenders. Norman Powell, Damn Near was an All Star.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: But it's all going to depend on if Kawhi Leonard.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I know this is crazy, but again, puncher's chance Kawhi
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Leonard having a twenty nineteen Toronto Raptors run. And if
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: you could do that, you have James Hard and Norman
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Powell and then Kawhi Leonard.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: We already know he's an.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: All star caliber, top ten caliber player. So you have
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: those guys in a playoff environment, I think that it's
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: going to be a painting the ass to deal with
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: as far as handling those three guys, and we already
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: know defensively what they can possess. As far as even Zubac,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: he's a good rim protector. You have a bunch of
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: wing defenders there, so there is that threat there. But
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: this last one I have right here, I couldn't help
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: but put this team in the tier. It's a Dallas Mavericks.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks, if they are healthy, they are gonna
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: be a tough team to deal with. And you cannot
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: tell me that Kyrie Irving Anthony Davis is not a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: scary one two punch to deal with in the playoffs.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: In a playoff environment, and I know Kyrie Irving, there
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: will be a lot more offensive workload, but defensively this
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: team will be stifling. You could put Kyrie Irving, Max
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Christy PJ. Washington, Anthony Davis and Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: whenever he gets back on the court at the same time.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: And that's the only weakness is Kyrie Irving there, and
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving he's a willing defender, so and there's championship
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: experience there or even just experience. As a group they
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: made the finals, but Anthony Davis won the championship and
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: has been in the playoffs. Kyrie Irving, who already know
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: his record in the playoffs or what he's done in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. So the Dallas Mavericks, if they are healthy,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: give them a puncher's chance, because again they will be
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: rust as far as we don't know if they will
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: play together very well. I think they'll mess together pretty well,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: but maybe it'll be too soon. But I just still
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: have to give them the puncher's chance. So my tier
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: list before I wrap it up is Boston, Okay, see
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: nextyier is Denver, Cleveland Lakers. Next year, after that Nicks, Bucks, Timberwolves, Grizzlies,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: and the last year, which is the puncher's chance here, Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Clippers,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: and Mavericks. So that's all I'm gonna get into as
• 1:30:36
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• 1:30:39
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• 1:30:44
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• 1:30:48
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• 1:30:51
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• 1:30:54
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• 1:30:57
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