Latest / Mooney's Mythic Podcast / Queen of the Solstice
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- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Mooney's Mythic Podcast.
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: I'm here.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: It's alright everyone, I'm right here.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: This podcast is sponsored by winter.
- 0:27SPEAKER_00: By the retreating of our energy deep, deep into our bodies.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: Deep into the safety of our bodies.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: The remembering of our self-care, of our quietness.
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: This podcast is sponsored by Winter.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: Hey, hi.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: I'm really happy to be here.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: I am your host, Sarah Mooney.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: And I've got someone on the sofa.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: I'm on the big sofa.
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: And I've got Ted Waters on the sofa with me.
- 1:03SPEAKER_00: So we're going to have a chit chat with her later on.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: But even better than that, she's going to sing for us.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: She's gonna sing for you.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: She's gonna sing for us.
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: She's gonna sing.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: I wanted to tell you that I had such a gorgeous story wintering time on Sunday.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: So thanks to everyone who came to that course, it was really, really special.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: And it reminded me even more that stories are just so important for us to nourish
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: ourselves with and connect with other people.
- 1:45SPEAKER_00: And I was listening to Madonna saying, we lost dancing.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: And somewhere we've lost dancing, we've lost singing, we've lost storytelling.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: As a normal practice, you know, just as a normal way of expressing and connecting.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: So my...
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: my dreaming for us all this winter is that we find somewhere to sing and we find
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: somewhere to dance and we find somewhere to to listen to the storytellers to listen
- 2:19SPEAKER_00: to the musicians to to listen to something live yeah i'm really praying that that
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: um that happens for all of us this winter and i am contradicting uh disconnection
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: by having you here deadwaters hello
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm very good.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: Hello, pod people.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: And that's Amber's just going down the stairs with a noisy band.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: She'll be back later.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: I'm very happy to be here.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: So I'm just going to say a bit about you,
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: Ted,
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: because I know it's really hard for us to talk about each other,
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: but are you a farmer?
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: Wow, tell me about that.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: We've got a little organic farm just north of Chevalier Lake which is about nine
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: acres and it's about two acres of no-dig veg and we've got chickens and ducks,
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: not commercial at the minute,
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: but we've got a beautiful roundhouse in our woods that we hire out to kids' groups
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: and retreats and we plant a lot of trees and the deer are then eating a lot of
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: trees and
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: Deer eat trees.
- 3:33SPEAKER_00: Deer eat whatever you try and put it in the ground.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: They don't eat the ones that are regenerating themselves.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: They just like nosh off the bark and they just have little shoots.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: They protect them and it is with God and lots of trees to protect them over the winter.
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's our lovely little punch of magic.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: So what part of yourself are you going to protect for the winter?
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Oh, all of it.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: Like bubble wrap.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: Bubble wrap.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: Like,
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: yeah,
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: kind of lovely parser tape around the edges that people find really hard to crack
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: into when you blow your scissors.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love winter.
- 4:28SPEAKER_00: I really deeply love winter and I always don't rest enough compared to the amount I know I need to rest.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: And I feel like,
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: especially the last couple of weeks,
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: I felt really like,
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: oh my God,
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: I just want to put everything down and just find a pile of leaves without eating it.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: and just and just snuggle down and just keep things really simple and i think the
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: contrast we have in our culture predominantly is that it's not simple this time of
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: year it's got lots of questions and deadlines and really it's not natural for us to
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: be rushing about and yeah
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: and you can only get so much done in the day outdoors and you feel sleepy early in
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: the evenings and we should be sleeping normally it's not completely hibernating but
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: we should be moving much slower so each winter I try and winter harder and better
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: it's a thing isn't it because it's like
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: yes I really hear all that and I spent all day you know everyone got a big buzz on
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: their phone except me because I don't have a smartphone yeah so we would get buzzes
- 5:54SPEAKER_00: but everyone got a big buzz stay indoors and watch out for the wind and I ran with
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: that and I just stayed in bed all day great and it felt like my circadian rhythm
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: was sort of swapping over to winter
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: And I want to stay connected and that's,
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: yeah,
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: I think that's,
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: I want to see my solids and my family in a really impressive way.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: I was reading about that solstice ceremonies.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Do you want a seasonal celebration?
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if I coined the term.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Because I was doing more sort of weddings and families and things and I was
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: actually just really love marking the seasonal tides around the Celtic Hill and
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: holding them in circles and just
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: So what would that look like if you're creating a space for the winter season,
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: what would that look like?
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: So I would bring in elements that are around us, I would bring in songs and poems of this time.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: stuff,
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: twigs,
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: berries,
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: maybe things growing on the farm,
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: maybe something I've found,
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: just for some water space.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: And just to remind me,
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: often that they're very bare boned,
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: at this time of year things are very bare boned,
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: maybe it's a bone,
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: maybe it's a branch.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: I love, the thing I really love about walking around in the wild is
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: if you go up closely to all the trees,
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: they've all got little buds,
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: they're all waiting,
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: they're just poised,
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: they're ready to go,
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: they never stop,
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: they just rest.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: And so something like that as a reminder of that spring will always come in the
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: last seasons,
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: a bit wonky,
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: spring does come eventually.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: And maybe some greenery to remind us that some things push through winter and hold
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: their leaves and keep them right at the same time.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah I think I've always been a tree that loses its leaves over winter but I think
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: I might be an evergreen this year.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling pretty juicy but I was looking at my Christmas tree and thinking that
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: other years it would have been totally appropriate to leave it until every needle
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: had dropped to the ground and it
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: and wonky until I put it on the fire I think it would have been more a sort of
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: representation of my journey but this year was a bit different and I think that
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: might be because I'm resting deep earlier I remember feeling like so much energy I
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: had so much energy last year until deep into January and then I was just like kind
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: of
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: I think as long as we can have space or we need space,
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: that's what we find hard to find,
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: I think,
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: is being able to follow our own rhythm,
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: in with the cycle of rhythm,
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: and recognise it.
- 9:37SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I'm hoping it won't come out this year, so, you know, mid-January, a bit of juice in me.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: And I'm not completely wanting to have it and have it wrapped together, so I'm thankful.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: But that's sort of,
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: like I say,
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: being able to go out and find those juicy people,
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: find those healthy people,
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: get out into nature and come back in,
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: being able to come back into oneself and into your internal process and just into
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: your own rest and not have to be doing what you're doing.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: That's what happens in the summertime or that sunlight.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: So that's what the sun is doing now in the solstice.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: So the solstice means sun, obviously soul, ice which means frozen stillness.
- 10:28SPEAKER_00: So in the solstice the sun keeps still for about three days I think and it's only
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: twice in the year that it keeps still.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: and i just love this image of these old and they do it at the white spring i love
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: it when they do it at the white spring um which is a it's a wall it's a bricked up
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: um spring in glastonbury so you can use gates at the front you can come in but what
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: they do is they um everyone piles in there's hundreds of people in there and um
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: electricity in there and it's dark,
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: absolutely dark and we're all in there together totally pitch black for as long as
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: we can possibly manage it and then we call for light or to
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: the child represents Bridie who is the goddess of the springtime and she goes
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: around and lights everybody's cameras.
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: It's so beautiful and it's really precious and I was thinking about that this
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: morning about who dares to gather together with a group of friends and these
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: can we be as still as possible in company without it involving a screen of any kind?
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: That's what I've been thinking about.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Who do I know well enough or trust well enough or that I want people in my life who
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: I know and trust well enough that I can say,
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: come and sit in the dark with me.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: I'll sit in the dark with you.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: Come and sit.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: I've got this great idea.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: Come and sit in the dark with me or let's do nothing.
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: and keep getting outdoors as well because it's really important to me in the winter
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: and when the door opens and you come in and the warmth of the home wraps around you.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: I think it's that thing of hopefully if you've got warm home then that can do it.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: You've got that constantly and I feel that quite a lot in a very cosy home.
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: if you can find it I think it's the contrast it's appreciating whatever you've got
- 12:51SPEAKER_00: wherever you are appreciating those moments of lack or seeing those moments of lack
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: like when you're hungry and then you eat and your body's warm and when you're cold
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: and then you get warm again and we have much more contrast in winter than you do in
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: summer you know you might want to cool off in summer but it's not quite the same as
- 13:14SPEAKER_00: that like
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: I love that, it's like the summer sort of builds and builds and builds and builds,
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: It's a gentle time,
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: it's time to be gentle with ourselves,
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: gentle with each other,
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: do you have anything to give?
- 13:51SPEAKER_00: I do love that about the festive season,
- 13:54SPEAKER_00: about the things that you've heard on to,
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: that people give,
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: is it time to look out beyond ourselves and go,
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: okay,
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: I have wonderful food or whatever we've got,
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: what can I give?
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah that's what I've been trying to talk to Noah around about Christmas,
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: about it not being about spending beyond your means and buying what someone else
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: wants but thinking about what have I got and what have I managed
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: brought towards me this year or yeah what can I offer that's really of myself I'm
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: always trying to get him because he's really good at origami I'm always trying to
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: get him to make origami things for people but he doesn't value them because it
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: comes easily to him and he makes this great origami frogs and he makes his origami
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: trees and all kinds of things and I'm saying just make people origami you know
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: they'll love it and he doesn't
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: I often write people birthday songs because I'm like, oh, I haven't got any presents.
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: I just wrote you this silly song.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: And people love it.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, it's just a stupid song.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: But it's because I'm like, oh, it's just, yeah, that's your thing.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: But it's like more and more I'm thinking about what is my essence and how can I not
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: offer that and not feel like skint,
- 15:23SPEAKER_00: knackered grumpy I know at the end of that's you know by sort of January the 2nd
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: hugs I can give hugs they're quite easy this Christmas I'm giving you a hug yeah
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: yeah that's fast getting more getting more comfortable being more intimate with
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: each other so that we can receive more deeply will you sing will you sing to us now
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: yes thank you so I'm going to sing
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: It needs a little explanation, actually.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: The other solstice song.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we've been in the solstice song.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: This is winter solstice.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: This is winter solstice.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: I wrote the song on the way back in a lay-by.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: having been treated to a spa by a friend after the first four years of setting up
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: our little farm,
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: which was just fields.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: And I was so tired.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: She left me in the spa for a bit in a day.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: I came back and found me about drawing in those lounges and woke me up.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: And I haven't rested, I really haven't rested for a long time.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: I've been working, working, working.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: So this came in quite quickly.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: That is the other thing about rest, isn't it, is that creativity just bubbles out from good rest.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 16:59Definitely.
- 17:09SPEAKER_03: Oh,
- 17:09SPEAKER_03: winter solstice,
- 17:12SPEAKER_03: I'm glad you have come My body is tired from all that I've done I rest here a while
- 17:21SPEAKER_03: in your deep winter's night Revived and renewed,
- 17:27SPEAKER_03: I'm awake with delight
- 17:39SPEAKER_03: The dark will not fear us from verse so deep.
- 17:44SPEAKER_03: Oh clarity, wisdom, strength, come when I sing.
- 17:49SPEAKER_03: I'll wake with the dawn, so vital and fresh.
- 17:54SPEAKER_03: And know that this time when it's right, the dark hurts.
- 18:08SPEAKER_03: Oh, light, come in gently, oh, light, come in slow.
- 18:13SPEAKER_03: Oh, light, come and show me, oh, light, come in low.
- 18:18SPEAKER_03: I'll wake with your dawn, full of peace, full of rest.
- 18:23SPEAKER_03: And know to slow down at this time was the best.
- 18:38SPEAKER_03: Oh, winter solstice, we're glad you have come.
- 18:44SPEAKER_03: Our bodies are tired from all that we've done.
- 18:48SPEAKER_03: We'll rest here a while in your dear winter's light.
- 18:53SPEAKER_03: Revived and renewed with a work with us.
- 19:07SPEAKER_03: The dark will not fear, we'll slumber so deep.
- 19:13SPEAKER_03: All clarity, wisdom, strength, and one else.
- 19:17SPEAKER_03: We'll wake with the dawn, so hard, torn and fresh.
- 19:22SPEAKER_03: And though it just slowed down, this time was the past.
- 19:36SPEAKER_03: Oh, light, come in gently, oh, light, come in slow.
- 19:41SPEAKER_03: Oh, light, come in short, all that we will know.
- 19:46SPEAKER_03: We'll wake with your dawn, full of peace, full of rest.
- 19:51SPEAKER_02: And oh, please tell me to slow you down.
- 19:56SPEAKER_02: Whoa, whoa, what's the best?
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: Twas the night before yuletide and all through the glen,
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: not a creature was stirring,
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: not a fox,
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: not a hen.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: A mantle of snow shone brightly that night as it lay on the ground reflecting moonlight.
- 20:31SPEAKER_00: The fairies were nestled all snug in their trees, unmindful of flurries and a chilly north breeze.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: The elves and the gnomes were down in their burrows, sleeping like babes in their soft earthen burrows.
- 20:46SPEAKER_00: When low, the earth moved with a thunderous quake, causing chairs to fall over and dishes to break.
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: The little folks scrambled to get on their feet, then raced to the river where they usually meet.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: What happened?
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: They wondered, they questioned, they pushed.
- 21:02SPEAKER_00: As they shivered in nightclothes, some bare arms, some rode.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: What caused the earth's shudder?
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: What caused her to shiver?
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: They all spoke at once as they stood by the river.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: Then what to their wondering eyes should appear?
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: But a shining golden light in the shape of a sphere.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: It blinked and it twinkled.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: It winked like an eye.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: Then it flew straight up and was lost in the sky.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: Before they could murmur,
- 21:32SPEAKER_00: before they could bustle,
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: there emerged from the crowd with a swish and a bustle.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: The holly kid, with his hand on a cane, resplendent in green, with a flowing white mane.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: As he passed by them smelling of winter and spices, reminiscent of earth slumber and robin and tices,
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: My name is the Holly King,
- 21:59SPEAKER_00: the Oak King's twin brother,
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: the Holly King proclaimed in a voice wild but tamed.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: I've come to remind you, for you seem to forget, it is time for deep rest, and yet.
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: I see no hearth fires, I hear no music, no bells, the air is not filled with rich fragrant smells.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: of baking and roasting and simmering stews, of cider that's mulled or other hot brews.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: There aren't any children at play in the snow or houses lit up by a warm candle's glow.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: Have you forgotten, my children, the fun of celebrating the rebirth of the golden bright sun?
- 22:46SPEAKER_00: He looked at the fay folk, his eyes going round as they shuffled their feet and stared at the ground.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: Then he smiled the smile that brings lights to the day.
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: Come, my children, he said.
- 22:58SPEAKER_00: Let's play.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: They gathered the mistletoe, picked spiky holly.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: They threw off the drab and drew on the jolly.
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: They lit a big bonfire.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: They danced and they sang.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: They brought out the bells and clapped when they ran.
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: They strung lights on the trees and bows oh so merry in colours of cranberry, bayberry, cherry.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: They built giant snowmen and gave them their hats,
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: then surrounded them with snowbirds and snowcats and bats.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: Then just before dawn,
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: at the end of their fest,
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: before they went homeward to seek out their rest,
- 23:37SPEAKER_00: the Fae folk,
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: they gathered round their favourite oak tree and welcomed the sun near the tree's finery.
- 23:45SPEAKER_00: They were just reaching home when it suddenly came.
- 23:48SPEAKER_00: The golden light would turn like an arrow shot flame.
- 23:53SPEAKER_00: It lit on the treetop where they could see from afar the golden light sphere turned
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: into a five-pointed star.
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: The hollykin just smiled at the beautiful sight.
- 24:03SPEAKER_00: Happy little tidy whispered.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: Good night.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you, Ted.
- 24:13SPEAKER_00: That was so gorgeous.
- 24:14SPEAKER_00: I just had to read into that.
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I just get so excited by the...
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: by the atmosphere that's created with music.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to speak back to you.
- 24:25SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was just divine.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it actually got me thinking about rest.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: Like, rest isn't just lying down.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: Rest is making spice, mild cider or juice and having hearty times and being creative and playing.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: So that's rest.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and doing what's easy.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: Putting stews in and mulled wine in the slow cooker and just doing what's easy.
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: I don't know who wrote that poem.
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: That's been on my desk all year.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: I have moved that.
- 25:00SPEAKER_00: Every time I've gone to do something, I've moved it and I've opened it up and I've gone, oh, what's that?
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: What's that?
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: Why is that on there?
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: And I haven't done anything with it.
- 25:08SPEAKER_00: And then yesterday or the day before, I just thought,
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: Oh, I was going to learn that this year.
- 25:12SPEAKER_00: You'll have to be next year.
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: So, beyond being a farmer and a seasonal celebrant, you are a singer.
- 25:29SPEAKER_00: I'm a singer.
- 25:31SPEAKER_00: I didn't have my name on something as a composer earlier this year, which was quite funny.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: I did a big arts council play called Rising Waters in the Tree Valley, and it was amazing.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: It was a five metre long massive giant salmon that spoke and came to life.
- 25:48SPEAKER_00: It was fantastic and I did all the sound effects and music for that and it was a real,
- 25:52SPEAKER_00: it was a real new,
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: itchy placement.
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: I loved it, so I really enjoyed finding great Crested Green Warbler sound effects.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: So I, yeah, all things music if I can and that's coming into my life now.
- 26:09SPEAKER_00: I co-run the farm with my wonderful partner, husband, and I have home school, my kids are a bit older.
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: So you've got some space, which is lovely.
- 26:21SPEAKER_00: Well done.
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: Not completely.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: There's still one in the mix that's, you know, homing a lot.
- 26:28SPEAKER_00: So yeah,
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: lots of lovely music and really trying to,
- 26:32SPEAKER_00: I used to do a lot of festivals and gigs and then had to sort of put it all down
- 26:36SPEAKER_00: for the kids and the farm and trying to kind of work out how to bring that,
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 26:41SPEAKER_00: which bits that to bring back in and what I had to do with it.
- 26:47SPEAKER_00: authentic time in my life where I don't have any capacity to not be very authentic
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: anymore so yeah and it's like we're talking about isn't it about doing things
- 26:56SPEAKER_00: easily yeah what's the most kind of delicious way of doing something because
- 27:01SPEAKER_00: sometimes festivals can mean lots of driving and lots of gigging and
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: and sometimes festivals can be really gorgeous and just as rejuvenating as going to one,
- 27:13SPEAKER_00: as contributing.
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: I love that, as tiring as blessed every festival is.
- 27:20SPEAKER_00: My beating heart wants to lift up the prayer of there being a collaboration of
- 27:25SPEAKER_00: performing arts on this land every year.
- 27:28SPEAKER_00: It really, I feel strongly about that.
- 27:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's some energy as well.
- 27:34SPEAKER_00: That's a semi-creative, like...
- 27:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what I think about it.
- 27:43SPEAKER_00: So alongside that,
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: I recently did a natural voice network quite early,
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: of course,
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: and I've already been sort of pulled by sales and things.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: So tell me, all these words, all these words, natural voice network.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: What's that?
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: So it's an organisation that really promotes singing,
- 28:03SPEAKER_00: community singing,
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: and singing without needing to read music.
- 28:06SPEAKER_00: So it requires that you just learn things like,
- 28:08SPEAKER_00: yeah,
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: maybe there's some words for it on the board or on the shoot,
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: but really not going to have that pressure.
- 28:14SPEAKER_00: That's the musical.
- 28:15SPEAKER_00: Okay, hit me.
- 28:16SPEAKER_00: Let's have a sing.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Oh no, hang on, simple.
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: Something super simple.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: Okay, hang on.
- 28:30SPEAKER_00: I think it's really important for us to reclaim our singing.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: Really, really important.
- 28:39SPEAKER_00: I belong to the Avalonian Free State Choir,
- 28:42SPEAKER_00: and it's total nepotism,
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: because I know the choir leader Sally very well.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, I wouldn't be in there, because I'm hopeless at learning words and not so great at singing.
- 28:57SPEAKER_00: But my singing has so improved.
- 29:00SPEAKER_00: I've been in it a year now and I've started,
- 29:02SPEAKER_00: I've stopped mouthing and I've started to let sound come out.
- 29:06SPEAKER_00: It's great and everyone's been lovely.
- 29:08SPEAKER_00: They've pretended not to notice that I'm not singing.
- 29:11SPEAKER_00: I have to tell the pod people that when I heard the pod people
- 29:16SPEAKER_00: people out there when they heard not only discovered that Sarah was doing this
- 29:22SPEAKER_00: podcast but also then had her sing in the middle of it I was like oh my god she's
- 29:27SPEAKER_00: good at everything she's so amazing listen to her we can all sing and then the next
- 29:32SPEAKER_00: one I think you said something about your inhibitions when singing so yeah it's um
- 29:37SPEAKER_00: we have we can all sing because actually I've got a song that's so if you speak you
- 29:41SPEAKER_00: can sing
- 29:44SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: I think it's a trick to stop us from really meeting our full potential to make
- 29:53SPEAKER_00: singing unfashionable.
- 29:55SPEAKER_00: I think that this is based on no fact at all, but I think that the church stole it.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: and made it theirs and made it impossible or illegal for people to sing other than
- 30:09SPEAKER_00: to praise the Lord and then they broke down the churches so it's like there's
- 30:13SPEAKER_00: nowhere for us to sing and I can totally feel in my own body from singing more that
- 30:22SPEAKER_00: I'm feeling much more connected to the inside of myself and I feel good
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: so um yeah and look at let's lock down all the choirs that went wild all the online
- 30:33SPEAKER_00: choirs that went wild over lockdown yeah let's let's just remember that we love
- 30:38SPEAKER_00: singing remember all of you that place that moment where you love singing and um
- 30:46SPEAKER_00: yeah do it in the car you know just like that's a great place to start doing the
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: car
- 30:52SPEAKER_00: I do it at petrol stations.
- 30:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's really weird when I start, it's a very strange habit.
- 31:01SPEAKER_00: But it's a real, there's a real women thing as well.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: Our voice has been taken from us and I hadn't realised that really how deep that had gone in my psyche.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: For me, being a performer, I still hold stuff.
- 31:16SPEAKER_00: There's cultural stuff,
- 31:18SPEAKER_00: there's stuff from school,
- 31:21SPEAKER_00: of people saying,
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: don't show off,
- 31:23SPEAKER_00: I'm good at something,
- 31:24SPEAKER_00: that still is right.
- 31:29SPEAKER_00: over my life, I still have fear.
- 31:32SPEAKER_00: What am I saying?
- 31:33SPEAKER_00: I'm like, God, if I have fear, am I saying that I'm a singer?
- 31:38SPEAKER_00: You know, it's really helped me kind of realise how much we're all affected by it.
- 31:42SPEAKER_00: And I think it's good for people who feel like they're not strong singers to
- 31:46SPEAKER_00: understand that singers are terrified too,
- 31:48SPEAKER_00: that it's such a big thing.
- 31:52SPEAKER_00: I wrote a little song when I was on this course about the birds,
- 31:55SPEAKER_00: the wonderful big trees in this space where we did this quiet eating week,
- 32:00SPEAKER_00: residential week,
- 32:01SPEAKER_00: and they opened their eyes,
- 32:02SPEAKER_00: imagine if the birds were scared to see,
- 32:04SPEAKER_00: imagine if you'd never heard their chirping,
- 32:07SPEAKER_00: can you hear the silence that would bring the emptiness,
- 32:09SPEAKER_00: I feel,
- 32:09SPEAKER_00: definitely.
- 32:12SPEAKER_00: And it was just this like,
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: But that's even the message to myself, that I'm scared to sing.
- 32:27SPEAKER_00: And actually even if you're saying, hey, bring us a song out there.
- 32:29SPEAKER_00: Have I got the right thing?
- 32:31SPEAKER_00: You know, there's a whole lot of time.
- 32:32SPEAKER_00: Let's sing the wrong song at the wrong time.
- 32:38SPEAKER_00: So there's a wonderful call and response thing that Frankie Armstrong who's sort of
- 32:44SPEAKER_00: pioneered a lot of the Natural Voice Network
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: amazing woman and she's been blind most of her life and is partly deaf and has such
- 32:54SPEAKER_00: incredible ability to understand resonance and song and voice and bring it out of
- 32:59SPEAKER_00: people she's an incredible human and is dedicated to her life to singing and
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: helping people sing and so she does this wonderful kind of call and response thing
- 33:08SPEAKER_00: we do it with hay making and I did it the other day with our choir so Ted is those
- 33:13SPEAKER_00: of you who have never made hay
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: Imagine you've got those long old-fashioned pitchforks with the sort of four prongs
- 33:21SPEAKER_00: at the end,
- 33:22SPEAKER_00: slightly curved.
- 33:23SPEAKER_00: We're not making hay because that's the summer thing.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: We're going to toss the hay up to keep it air and dry in our barn.
- 33:30SPEAKER_00: And what you do is you're standing, imagine sort of walking forward side to side.
- 33:35SPEAKER_00: and you just when your body's doing something you kind of get out of your own head
- 33:38SPEAKER_00: a little bit so we'll do a little chord response so I'll sing just anything and
- 33:43SPEAKER_00: then you just copy me we're copycats we did it from birth we did it when we were
- 33:48SPEAKER_00: born we did it with babies that's how you don't speak
- 34:04SPEAKER_00: everyone join in at home if you want to.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: I'm keeping it low and deep for the wintery vibes.
- 34:33SPEAKER_02: La da.
- 34:36SPEAKER_02: Ring ding.
- 34:38SPEAKER_02: Ring ding.
- 34:40SPEAKER_02: Moyo.
- 34:42SPEAKER_02: Moyo.
- 34:44SPEAKER_02: Boyo.
- 34:46SPEAKER_02: Boyo.
- 34:48SPEAKER_02: Boyo.
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: Boyo.
- 34:52SPEAKER_02: Boyo.
- 34:53SPEAKER_02: La la.
- 34:56SPEAKER_02: La la.
- 34:57SPEAKER_02: Maya.
- 34:58SPEAKER_02: Maya.
- 35:02SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed that.
- 35:07SPEAKER_02: It's really good.
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: You've got such gorgeous resonance.
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: Well, that's, you know, singing every week for a year.
- 35:34SPEAKER_00: You know, that's really brought that through.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm going to... I think I could do that.
- 35:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: You've made me think that there's... Because I was thinking about tossing the hay.
- 35:46SPEAKER_00: It's a bit like sort of making a bed in the morning.
- 35:49SPEAKER_00: And there's lots of things I do regularly that I could sing at the same time as
- 35:57SPEAKER_00: doing them and how that might make me feel differently about doing them.
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: I've got such a dinner lady in me, it just wants to get it done.
- 36:08SPEAKER_00: But I could actually enjoy the task whilst I'm doing it and bring some flow to it.
- 36:15SPEAKER_00: It might make my life a little bit more.
- 36:16SPEAKER_00: And so many of the songs around the world are work songs and the older songs and sorts of Scottish
- 36:23SPEAKER_00: walking songs w-a-u-l-k-i-n-g and they have to pass the time on the repetitive
- 36:29SPEAKER_00: things you know you're rolling the tweed and you're singing something incredible
- 36:33SPEAKER_00: again it won't start now get the description get the pronunciation wrong but
- 36:38SPEAKER_00: they're to pass the time and they're to they build community and they and they
- 36:43SPEAKER_00: literally weave while you're weaving you know and they come from every culture
- 36:47SPEAKER_00: they're in every culture they're in us to
- 36:50SPEAKER_00: to make those sounds.
- 36:52SPEAKER_00: You know, we were probably singing before we were speaking words.
- 36:55SPEAKER_00: It's really interesting.
- 36:57SPEAKER_00: We definitely,
- 36:58SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 36:58SPEAKER_00: when little kids are making those sounds,
- 37:00SPEAKER_00: they're making kind of woo,
- 37:02SPEAKER_00: woo,
- 37:02SPEAKER_00: woo,
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: woo,
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: and they're,
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 37:04SPEAKER_00: and they're copycats and they're copying,
- 37:05SPEAKER_00: so doing that call and responses.
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: It's really helpful, great.
- 37:09SPEAKER_00: I loved it, thank you.
- 37:11SPEAKER_00: Great, we've made our hay nice and dry for instance.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: Great, what you need, dry hay.
- 37:17SPEAKER_00: What was I going to say?
- 37:19SPEAKER_00: Before you sing your next song,
- 37:25SPEAKER_00: You were telling me about where it came from.
- 37:27SPEAKER_00: Now, I haven't quite got it, so now you say it all again over the pod, I might just slow you down a bit.
- 37:34SPEAKER_00: So tell me.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm trying to start at the beginning.
- 37:37SPEAKER_00: So there's a wonderful artist called Sophie Watt, who's a potter and an artist of many different mediums.
- 37:47SPEAKER_00: and she's also an amazing horsewoman and she drives carriages and carts and rides
- 37:53SPEAKER_00: and she's got an incredible ride with horses and she used to go around the country
- 37:57SPEAKER_00: I think a lot when she was younger just camping out just a horse and sometimes had
- 38:01SPEAKER_00: a bike and a tent and that was quite easy normal for her and I think she got to,
- 38:06SPEAKER_00: I'm not quite sure how old she was,
- 38:09SPEAKER_00: mid-late 40s and thought I just need to see if I can still do that
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: And so she had this idea of a pilgrimage that she,
- 38:21SPEAKER_00: and I'm not quite sure the exact order she chose to do these in,
- 38:23SPEAKER_00: but she was living in a converted chapel on the Mary Ley Line,
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: which is part of the Michael and Mary Ley Lines that interweave across from Cornwall.
- 38:35SPEAKER_00: right across England, kind of in a straight line, almost like the edges of a double helix.
- 38:42SPEAKER_00: I don't know much about the Michael and Mary lines.
- 38:45SPEAKER_00: We might do another pod about that.
- 38:47SPEAKER_00: But what I do know is I saw a line going through the Michael line once,
- 38:53SPEAKER_00: and it goes through all the ancient sites,
- 38:57SPEAKER_00: Avebury,
- 38:58SPEAKER_00: Stonehenge,
- 38:59SPEAKER_00: that's what we taught.
- 39:01SPEAKER_00: You can draw a line through them.
- 39:03SPEAKER_00: And then someone was in the abbey,
- 39:05SPEAKER_00: Billy the Celt and I were in the abbey,
- 39:08SPEAKER_00: and he said,
- 39:08SPEAKER_00: look at all the spires.
- 39:10SPEAKER_00: And from the top of the abbey, you could see like three or four spires of churches in different villages.
- 39:17SPEAKER_00: So they've all been built on what is perceived to be
- 39:22SPEAKER_00: uh sacred space which are these um lines which are called lay lines and some people
- 39:27SPEAKER_00: call them the michael or mary lines right yeah and they're kind of some people
- 39:32SPEAKER_00: believe that they're the sort of energy lines that have powerful points on them so
- 39:36SPEAKER_00: there's there's the less well-known places like
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: and I'd love to,
- 39:47SPEAKER_00: now having kind of immersed myself in this whole album of songs around it,
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: I'd love to go explore it more because there's places where I don't know if that
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: was part of this whole thread.
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: So she went on this pilgrimage on her horse,
- 39:59SPEAKER_00: but she...
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: Hang on,
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: so she went on the pilgrimage,
- 40:03SPEAKER_00: she walked on her own,
- 40:05SPEAKER_00: she got dropped down in at the bottom of the corner.
- 40:07SPEAKER_00: But she did the lines, what's she doing?
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: She's following the ancient bridal ways and the ways and some of the roads on her
- 40:15SPEAKER_00: horse and every day she was commissioned by the Western,
- 40:19SPEAKER_00: Royal Western Academy to,
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: I think someone got wings,
- 40:22SPEAKER_00: she was going to do this thing.
- 40:24SPEAKER_00: do this journey and they commissioned her to draw a picture every day and every day
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: she managed to somehow,
- 40:31SPEAKER_00: remarkably with technology on the back of the horse,
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: put them online and the Roller's Academy would print these pictures out and put
- 40:40SPEAKER_00: them in a wall behind all their spaces.
- 40:45SPEAKER_00: And so she was doing this every day,
- 40:47SPEAKER_00: and it went on for weeks and weeks,
- 40:48SPEAKER_00: and a friend of hers called Michael Cunning,
- 40:51SPEAKER_00: who's actually a vet,
- 40:52SPEAKER_00: he didn't call himself a poet,
- 40:55SPEAKER_00: began to write little supporting messages to her,
- 40:59SPEAKER_00: and where she put those posts.
- 41:00SPEAKER_00: And in response to her pictures.
- 41:01SPEAKER_00: In response to her pictures,
- 41:03SPEAKER_00: and about her,
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: yeah,
- 41:04SPEAKER_00: about the picture,
- 41:05SPEAKER_00: about her journey,
- 41:06SPEAKER_00: and it felt as if he'd been on the phone to her that day,
- 41:09SPEAKER_00: and he hadn't at all,
- 41:10SPEAKER_00: but he had this sort of amazing insight into
- 41:14SPEAKER_00: what it would have felt like to go from place to place in these moments in time
- 41:17SPEAKER_00: that she'd captured in these drawings.
- 41:19SPEAKER_00: Some of them are very sketchy,
- 41:20SPEAKER_00: some are slightly cartoony,
- 41:22SPEAKER_00: some of them are deeply curled up in the earth,
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: lots of ravens.
- 41:29SPEAKER_00: lots of really beautiful owls and animals and lots of horse energy in them and a
- 41:38SPEAKER_00: few weeks in I,
- 41:40SPEAKER_00: this is a very long intro to her song,
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: a few weeks in I thought I need to catch up with her so being up to you know sort
- 41:46SPEAKER_00: of knowing what she was doing preparing for it was a few weeks before she was going
- 41:51SPEAKER_00: she left in like the first of April or something it was snowing it was freezing
- 41:55SPEAKER_00: cold still and she was kind of
- 41:59SPEAKER_00: So I thought, okay, catch up.
- 42:00SPEAKER_00: And I went online and found these pictures and found these poems and had a very
- 42:05SPEAKER_00: sort of dialed in moment with a glass of wine,
- 42:08SPEAKER_00: kids gone to bed and put them all to music without intending to,
- 42:12SPEAKER_00: just put about 20 of them to song and just kept pressing play.
- 42:17SPEAKER_00: One of them was written very like this song that was sort of cover, sounded very like an executive song.
- 42:24SPEAKER_00: And so created this accidental album
- 42:28SPEAKER_00: songs about her journey wow and then record them actually in Glastonbury if you
- 42:33SPEAKER_00: want to do it somewhere along that you know with that energy on that line the lay
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: line energy to record them with Jem at the Hive studios originally they've been
- 42:43SPEAKER_00: remastered recently um yeah so wow so it's got this amazing and we you know none of
- 42:49SPEAKER_00: it was intended he didn't mean to write the poems we never planned any of it which
- 42:53SPEAKER_00: is
- 42:55SPEAKER_00: Which is wonderful,
- 42:55SPEAKER_00: because I think if we planned that kind of project,
- 42:57SPEAKER_00: it would have been a bit huge,
- 43:00SPEAKER_00: but it sort of kept evolving and really run magically.
- 43:05SPEAKER_00: we have a sign in the kitchen that says art is the thing that nobody asks you to do
- 43:10SPEAKER_00: and I think about that sometimes about what am I tinkering with what am I playing
- 43:16SPEAKER_00: with nobody asked me to do the podcast but I'm glad you're listening I'm so glad
- 43:21SPEAKER_00: you're doing the podcast by the way I am like the super fan sitting on the sofa
- 43:27SPEAKER_00: being like
- 43:32SPEAKER_00: book as well in my view so play us one of these songs from this beautiful album we
- 43:39SPEAKER_00: are slap bang on the ley line guys playing you this song so if we disapparate after
- 43:45SPEAKER_00: the song is finished then you know
- 43:48SPEAKER_00: It's called Time for Home.
- 43:49SPEAKER_00: We may go home.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: We might, okay, I'm going to get really comfy.
- 43:54SPEAKER_00: So it's called Time for Home and it's one of the last ones that I wrote where she
- 43:59SPEAKER_00: was bringing,
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: she actually did it in two stages.
- 44:01SPEAKER_00: She did it on one beautiful horse called Oski.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: He was about four years old, beautiful, Appaloosa, and he was a horsey person.
- 44:09SPEAKER_00: He's kind of spotty, not a very big mane.
- 44:12SPEAKER_00: He's just like the old looking horse, but he's just...
- 44:15SPEAKER_00: He's got the most amazing energies, the gentlest, beautiful, goofy soul.
- 44:20SPEAKER_00: And he was quite young and she was like, I think he's done enough.
- 44:24SPEAKER_00: She's done like a hundred days or something.
- 44:26SPEAKER_00: And so she was bringing him home and then going to continue with her little
- 44:31SPEAKER_00: Dartmoor pony and cart in a second.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: So this is time for home.
- 44:37SPEAKER_00: Oh, Oski's going home.
- 44:39SPEAKER_00: Oski, honestly, I just, I have, oh, it's just the mystery of the soul.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: I love that holds it very deeply.
- 44:44SPEAKER_00: He's still,
- 44:44SPEAKER_00: she's actually a soldier,
- 44:45SPEAKER_00: but he's still in our valley,
- 44:47SPEAKER_00: and every time I go in,
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: I just have to go in there.
- 44:54SPEAKER_00: I had a car accident once when my car flew in the air,
- 44:57SPEAKER_00: and it rolled three times,
- 44:59SPEAKER_00: and it landed upside down.
- 45:01SPEAKER_00: And I was advised to spend time with horses.
- 45:05SPEAKER_00: And I was expecting,
- 45:06SPEAKER_00: because this person who I said,
- 45:09SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 45:09SPEAKER_00: you're way out of your body,
- 45:10SPEAKER_00: you need to spend time with horses.
- 45:11SPEAKER_00: And I'd not spent much time with horses before.
- 45:14SPEAKER_00: And I was expecting that to be very grounded, like four feet on the ground.
- 45:19SPEAKER_00: And actually what I discovered when I was with the horses, that it's constant adjustment.
- 45:24SPEAKER_00: flow constant movement you know they didn't for a second keep all four feet on the
- 45:30SPEAKER_00: ground and and through that through spending time with them and being able to kind
- 45:35SPEAKER_00: of allow that constant movement to come through my body and adjust my body as it it
- 45:41SPEAKER_00: needed um i did start to get kind of healer
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: They are incredible.
- 45:47SPEAKER_00: I have also owned a very difficult horse who was very much a soul challenge and he
- 45:53SPEAKER_00: was living with Oski at the time at some points of me having him and it was such a
- 45:57SPEAKER_00: contrast having this little teenager horse basically and then having Oski in the
- 46:02SPEAKER_00: same space.
- 46:06SPEAKER_00: I wish you were mine so yeah they sometimes come to us to teach us things yeah
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: maybe we'll find ways to welcome our teenagers teenagers but sometimes they're not
- 46:19SPEAKER_00: welcome are they but let's sometimes they come in anyway they're welcome they're
- 46:24SPEAKER_00: really welcome okay I may when you're finished singing I may do a small journey
- 46:31SPEAKER_00: afterwards but we'll see how it goes
- 46:46SPEAKER_03: Why daylines and rains on night?
- 46:51SPEAKER_03: Early mornings and something to find.
- 46:54SPEAKER_03: A cloud of snow, sun chod through struggle.
- 47:04SPEAKER_03: Rankin round me, sky and rain apart.
- 47:12SPEAKER_03: Smiles to my eyes, bosky strides on one.
- 47:22SPEAKER_03: Ride and ride onto the tour until we can now move.
- 47:33SPEAKER_03: and no more.
- 47:39SPEAKER_03: Black cloud on a Sunday morning have we come our way.
- 47:48SPEAKER_03: Michael and Mary lay.
- 47:57SPEAKER_03: Dark skies
- 48:00SPEAKER_03: A couple green arms such as I have seen Come on,
- 48:08SPEAKER_03: ski,
- 48:08SPEAKER_03: turn with me I'll hold your end with your main You and me alone Time for hope
- 48:27SPEAKER_03: Time for home.
- 48:35SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
- 48:37SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
- 48:38SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: Deep inside all of us is a cave.
- 49:23SPEAKER_00: Time for home.
- 49:26SPEAKER_00: always come away and we find ourselves at the mouth of that cave ready to go deeper
- 49:33SPEAKER_00: in us and we call for good company whether that's a scent or a person or an animal
- 49:46SPEAKER_00: or a guide we call for good company and it comes and so we walk deeper
- 49:55SPEAKER_00: into this cave, into our winter, into our soul, into our safe place deep, deep, deep inside.
- 50:09SPEAKER_00: And we know that the fires will burn in here and the candles will be lit and there
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: will be a deep welcome for us.
- 50:18SPEAKER_00: And we look around this place and we see who's there,
- 50:24SPEAKER_00: what is feeding us, where we're getting our warmth from, our joy, our delight and our deep rest.
- 50:36SPEAKER_00: And we find a place in this cave where we lay down for a while.
- 50:41SPEAKER_00: It suits us just so.
- 50:48SPEAKER_00: And as we lay there, our body drops
- 50:54SPEAKER_00: our neck letting go of our head, our shoulders melting, body resting back, resting back, resting back.
- 51:09SPEAKER_00: Breathing, resting, deepening into the water.
- 51:24SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Ted.
- 51:26SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 51:26SPEAKER_00: And I wouldn't call that a long introduction into that song.
- 51:32SPEAKER_00: I would have called that a great story.
- 51:34SPEAKER_00: It's a great story.
- 51:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a great story.
- 51:39SPEAKER_00: And it's inspiring about what is possible in a life and how we can live life differently.
- 51:47SPEAKER_00: So thank you for that.
- 51:48SPEAKER_00: And I just think what you were saying before, there's something that one you create about conspiring
- 51:57SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it doesn't matter where inspiration comes from, it's just it's all around us.
- 52:02SPEAKER_00: It can be completely unplanned.
- 52:06SPEAKER_00: That's not planned.
- 52:09SPEAKER_00: Yes, and collaborate.
- 52:12SPEAKER_00: I would like to do more collaboration next year with different artists, I'm sure.
- 52:20SPEAKER_00: Ah yes, so when I was getting my Christmas decorations out, I found some books, some story books.
- 52:30SPEAKER_00: that I thought I'd run out of.
- 52:32SPEAKER_00: So we should be getting some storybooks for Christmas, guys.
- 52:37SPEAKER_00: And if anybody wants one, you can message me on Substack for listening this year to this podcast.
- 52:46SPEAKER_00: I'd love to send you a storybook.
- 52:48SPEAKER_00: So if you message me with your address, I'll send it to you.
- 52:53SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a nice thing.
- 52:55SPEAKER_00: How can people get in touch with you?
- 52:56SPEAKER_00: How can they listen to your horse?
- 52:59SPEAKER_00: What's your horse album called?
- 53:01SPEAKER_00: It's called Earthline.
- 53:02SPEAKER_00: Earthline.
- 53:03SPEAKER_00: So it is on, it's on Bandcamp.
- 53:06SPEAKER_00: It's not on my Bandcamp, but it's on Bandcamp's Earthline.
- 53:11SPEAKER_00: It's also the four, we've been remastering some of the tracks and putting them on Spotify.
- 53:15SPEAKER_00: So there's four up there, three up there now, and it's Headwaters.
- 53:24SPEAKER_00: coming in the spring.
- 53:26SPEAKER_00: And then there's also the interstellar song.
- 53:29SPEAKER_00: Brilliant.
- 53:31SPEAKER_00: Do you know what it's called?
- 53:33SPEAKER_00: It's the album.
- 53:40SPEAKER_00: all the songs about Sophie's journey, Sophie's story.
- 53:44SPEAKER_00: And then,
- 53:45SPEAKER_00: currently I just have,
- 53:46SPEAKER_00: when Solstice is just the one single that's not part of the album,
- 53:50SPEAKER_00: there's more coming,
- 53:51SPEAKER_00: there's a song called Billion Atoms coming up next year,
- 53:53SPEAKER_00: which is what we're going to do for a few times.
- 53:56SPEAKER_00: But we can find you there.
- 53:58SPEAKER_00: You can find me on Spotify,
- 54:00SPEAKER_00: you can find me on Bandcamp,
- 54:01SPEAKER_00: you can find me on Instagram,
- 54:04SPEAKER_00: Ted Rogers Music,
- 54:07SPEAKER_00: and all the other places.
- 54:08SPEAKER_00: She's going red.
- 54:09SPEAKER_00: It's just, you know, all of this.
- 54:12SPEAKER_00: It's wonderful.
- 54:12SPEAKER_00: It's free marketing.
- 54:13SPEAKER_00: so it's yes it's um um tick tock would you believe but they're all ted waters music
- 54:21SPEAKER_00: right so we just we'll just duck duck goose ted waters music and there we go um and
- 54:28SPEAKER_00: um
- 54:29SPEAKER_00: I would like to invite you to come on the 19th of December to see some storytelling and music.
- 54:38SPEAKER_00: Sarah Curtis is going to be playing some music and we're going to tell the story of
- 54:43SPEAKER_00: the Snow Queen and a couple of other things.
- 54:45SPEAKER_00: I asked a lot of people what their favourite story was and a lot of people have been saying Snow Queen.
- 54:51SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to say, OK, I don't have that much of a connection to it.
- 54:56SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking forward to telling it.
- 54:58SPEAKER_00: and there's lots of potential for deep magic so that's on the 19th of December if
- 55:03SPEAKER_00: you've got the stamina after that I am actually telling a bedtime story at a
- 55:08SPEAKER_00: cabaret around the corner oh I've just remembered actually that I think that this
- 55:12SPEAKER_00: is going to go out a little after that so you might miss it guys never fear I hope
- 55:23SPEAKER_00: you energetically buy your tickets but that art
- 55:28SPEAKER_00: The only other thing I wanted to say to you before we go is that at the end of February,
- 55:35SPEAKER_00: I booked out the retreat house at the Chalicewell Gardens,
- 55:38SPEAKER_00: which is so holy,
- 55:41SPEAKER_00: so magical,
- 55:42SPEAKER_00: really.
- 55:42SPEAKER_00: I ran a retreat there last year and the profoundity of the sacredness of the space really was incredible.
- 55:52SPEAKER_00: and what i do is i'll take a story as a framework and then we create ritual
- 55:58SPEAKER_00: initiation any anything in you that you need to let go of that you want to be
- 56:03SPEAKER_00: witnessed that wants to emerge we create ceremony um in the gardens at night which
- 56:09SPEAKER_00: you have to ourselves and we also use the white spring um through through
- 56:15SPEAKER_00: storytelling it's exquisite so i've got
- 56:20SPEAKER_00: i think left on that so um yeah let me know if you've and i've been awful as you
- 56:29SPEAKER_00: know at um getting it out there so people you just have to get in touch if you're
- 56:34SPEAKER_00: interested right now um get in touch with me where can people find you then um
- 56:44SPEAKER_00: well uh i'm not really sure but you can if you go if you duck duck goose and try
- 56:50SPEAKER_00: not to say the g word um mooney's mythic podcast then i'll come up in certain
- 56:56SPEAKER_00: spaces and um yeah but also you can buy your cup of tea if they want to find it so
- 57:07SPEAKER_00: i do have a patreon page and i do have some patreons
- 57:10SPEAKER_00: thank you very very very much you know who you are i'm thinking of you and saying
- 57:14SPEAKER_00: your names in my heart right now
- 57:16SPEAKER_00: yeah if you think oh that woman needs a cup of coffee although she doesn't because
- 57:20SPEAKER_00: she's given up coffee two weeks and counting but she needs hydrating let's say then
- 57:26SPEAKER_00: you can buy me a cup of coffee on Patreon and that's Moony's Mythic podcast as well
- 57:32SPEAKER_00: I think go for it you know it'll be the it'll give you that warm fuzzy Christmas
- 57:40SPEAKER_00: feeling if you can afford it and if you can't no problem come and listen anyway
- 57:44SPEAKER_00: lots of love guys see you next week um please get in touch let me know what your um
- 57:50SPEAKER_00: winter's looking like and what you're um liking or not liking about this pod lots
- 57:55SPEAKER_00: of love bye bye