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TV Anchor turns PPP Mafiosa w/ Mandii B & Weezy WTF · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scam, Come rob from scam, come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob's Froam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: What's popping? Congregation? It's your girl.
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  Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka scam Goddess back with another Did I
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  Speaker 2: say that right? Aka Scam Goddess back with another installment
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  Speaker 2: of the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who
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  Speaker 2: practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
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  Speaker 2: We will find out along the way. And if you
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  Speaker 2: are not new to church, go ahead and say amen,
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  Speaker 2: because you know I'm very what Amen? Yes, excited, thrilled,
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  Speaker 2: elated to have two guests today, two multi hyphened queens
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  Speaker 2: who hosts the podcast Decisions Decisions, the show where they
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  Speaker 2: examine the world of non traditional relationships and explore the
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  Speaker 2: often taboo topics.
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  Speaker 1: Surrounding dating and six. But guess what, Okay, guess what?
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  Speaker 1: They're not just podcast hosts.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, they're also New York Times best selling all
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  Speaker 2: the rest's please, Rich, put me some Jaican air horns
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  Speaker 2: right there, and y'all gonna go buy the phenomenal new
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  Speaker 1: Laugh, That's right.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to make sure I didn't laugh. She
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  Speaker 2: up out of your seat if you drive, and put
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  Speaker 2: your foot on the gas, but they still lift your
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  Speaker 2: booty up off of the seat a little bit and
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  Speaker 2: hold on to the steer room wheel. Okay, I need
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  Speaker 2: you to have your ass. It's out your chats. Please
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  Speaker 2: make some noise for Wheezy WTF and Mandy B.
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  Speaker 1: Hey. I loved that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't even know who wrote that.
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  Speaker 2: I need to see how it's timed. Oh that's just
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  Speaker 2: I love yes, and you are. But I'll say when
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  Speaker 2: I have my fourth husband, I'm multi.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna keep all the names as you get married.
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  Speaker 1: Listen my homegirl, while with her husband, be saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my second husband ain't never going to do this, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just so crazy. Oh yeah, I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep all the husbands. My mom so she had
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  Speaker 1: a husband before my father, and that husband's last name
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  Speaker 1: is Dreyfus. Okay, she kept it, and I'm like, why
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  Speaker 1: would you keep that? She's like, goes sound rich.
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  Speaker 2: It does sound rich. I immediately thought she's richer. That's
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  Speaker 2: the same before acting, I'm like an.
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  Speaker 1: Adopted child of the Sanders family.
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, don't scamming as last. Dion Sanders is rhyme.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and his ex wife still you no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: the Carolyn oh okay, first one, the cool one. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: she still keeps Sanders as well. And even though she's
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  Speaker 3: been with other men since she is a Sanders hunt. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think, uh, it's what we've seen happen
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  Speaker 3: with even Harvey, Steve Harvey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Laurie ain't even a Harvey, but she took the stamps. Okay, listen, No,
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  Speaker 1: she's not that her daddy technically you have, but that's
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  Speaker 1: her mom's husband. She's probably a doctor, know he did.
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  Speaker 1: She had the mom, the mom who is a very
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  Speaker 1: intelligent lady.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no miss If y'all have not done
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  Speaker 3: an episode on Steve Harvey's wife, that woman dated a
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  Speaker 3: drug dealing mar Marjorie baby Marjorie. So the first boyfriend,
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  Speaker 3: husband whatever, he got locked up and she wanted to
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  Speaker 3: keep the money, so she went and started dating.
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  Speaker 1: The brother or cousin.
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  Speaker 2: It was a brother or cut it was, it was related,
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  Speaker 2: and she started dating a family member and married him
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  Speaker 2: to Yep, I mean crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't what's one of Joe Biden's kids fucking the dead
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  Speaker 1: brother's brother. Oh I wanted the wife of the dead brother.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah. Sometimes you just got to keep it
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  Speaker 1: in the family. What's crazy about that? Okay? Ab that?
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  Speaker 1: So in Nigerian culture, they've basically if your brother dies,
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  Speaker 1: you then take on the family. So it's not that crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Now you maybe take on the family as far as financially,
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  Speaker 1: but oh no, he's not na. Now keep it a buck.
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  Speaker 2: Fuck my wife while I'm gone and at least be
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  Speaker 2: the uncle that my kids always knew, or she gets
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  Speaker 2: some new nigga that don't trust now I'm dead, but
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  Speaker 2: still yeah, no.
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  Speaker 1: This is a scam. Is it a scam?
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  Speaker 2: It's someone else in the family after the one that
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  Speaker 2: you met here got to be dead dead. I was like, like,
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  Speaker 2: Girlma medium dead because like Marjorie, oh you mean like okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Kalma is like they could they could pop back out,
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  Speaker 2: pop out and then.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you're I mean Mary Crosby too on Housewives of
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  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City. She married her her mom's husband or
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  Speaker 3: grandma's husband. She's now dating her her married granddad.
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  Speaker 1: You need to get into Bravo. Oh yeah, it's good.
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  Speaker 1: You ready.
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  Speaker 3: And they run a church, a congregation. Okay, okay, baby,
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  Speaker 3: we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't encourage you to marry your your your relatives
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  Speaker 1: openly keep it in the family.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the family. Okay, then y'all gotta be like the
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  Speaker 2: Anasthasia's and the right exactly, the j Jeah's definitely fucking
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  Speaker 2: their cousins. Yeah, like yeah, that's how you keep the
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  Speaker 2: wealth and family.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: So we always ask on this podcast, what is your
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  Speaker 2: relationship with scams and.
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  Speaker 1: Scammers? When when I got the email to share my
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  Speaker 1: own scam story, it was very hard. It was very hard.
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  Speaker 2: One the only reason, I mean, I have one that
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  Speaker 2: y'all moost seem very like. I mean, obviously you're quite savvy,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, No, I know, I
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  Speaker 2: take these niggas money in their face.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I don't like scammers, drug dealers, any
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 3: However, one of my favorite pastimes that I do in
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  Speaker 3: my spare time, one of my favorite shows of all
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  Speaker 3: time is American Greed. So I do enjoy seeing how
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  Speaker 3: people get away, specifically with white collar crimes. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: interest sit in drugs, drug selling and Dylan that's not
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  Speaker 3: very interesting to me, but white collar crime and seeing
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  Speaker 3: how they get away with that.
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  Speaker 1: Ship bails me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then when I thought it, and then when I
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  Speaker 3: thought of scams, I was like, well, this is a podcast,
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  Speaker 3: a really fucking big and popular one. I said, it's
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  Speaker 3: not fun to talk about the scam. That is Mary Kay,
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  Speaker 3: that is herbal life, that is wish.
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  Speaker 1: You were here. I forgot what that was, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. You remember when they.
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  Speaker 3: Held up the blue sign everywhere wish there was like
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  Speaker 3: a travel group, travel club.
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  Speaker 1: And as you kept going they were talking, they were
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  Speaker 1: like you would.
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  Speaker 2: Put in money to go with the group everywhere, and
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  Speaker 2: it was like they were branded and it was like
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  Speaker 2: young people, herbal life. It was like, good, look at
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  Speaker 2: young people. They'd be on yachts and stuff like wish
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  Speaker 2: you were here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Triangle, I think the ponzis. Listen, let me see look
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  Speaker 3: the way I'm looking up wish you were here? Oh
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  Speaker 3: world Ventures. Yeah, I'm not gonna hold you.
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  Speaker 1: Even when bitches be like they reached out to Mandy
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  Speaker 1: and I too to do a travel thing. I forgot
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  Speaker 1: what city it was, But like I always thought those
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  Speaker 1: were scams because at the end of the day, the
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  Speaker 1: travel agencies are creating a larger price to do all
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  Speaker 1: the work to put something together. Yeah, Herbal Life still
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  Speaker 1: gave you smoothies and powders and ship Yeah, Mary Kay
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  Speaker 1: still give you product.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's an MLM. That's why it's league. It's technically
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  Speaker 2: legally it's a Ponzi scheme. They do want you to
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  Speaker 2: just sign other people up for the progract. I had
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  Speaker 2: some try to get me in on a Facebook cash
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  Speaker 2: at me I cash appy disc Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So the money circles there was they would have like.
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  Speaker 2: The what would they call them? It was like the
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  Speaker 2: money tree, the giving circles, the giving circus. Yes, all
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  Speaker 2: I want to know that one of the witchy Woogle
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  Speaker 2: girls put something spiritual into it.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you there's one guy being outed right now.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot his name, but he did some ship where
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people fell for it. For ten thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 3: that's your seed investment. I can make you twenty thousand
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  Speaker 3: to thirty thousand a month.
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  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that people even believe that shit you should
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  Speaker 3: get got for your ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime somebody says seed, I just I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna grow.
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  Speaker 1: It's growing on me. Well, i'll tell you to seed.
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  Speaker 1: That also didn't grow. For my scam, uh, I had
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  Speaker 1: to think back. And it's funny because Mandy knew this
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  Speaker 1: would be the one that I brought up. But when
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  Speaker 1: I was twenty or twenty one, I needed some extra money.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think it was this one drug
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  Speaker 1: dealer never did scammers. It only did trap niggas because
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not about to You're not about to take
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  Speaker 1: some money from old lady. You guys, that's the real
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  Speaker 1: honest pharmacist.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate like trappers, Like honestly, trapping ain't dead, which
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  Speaker 2: is why I don't buy weed from these fucking stores.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so I love the tri're keeping the street
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  Speaker 2: pharmacist employd I'm all about brown from Flo.
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  Speaker 1: I literally owned a business called traphouse. It it just
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  Speaker 1: with trapping house music.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, my cousin works for you. Eric mostly
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  Speaker 2: Eric is your cousin. Yes, he's like the cousins. It's
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  Speaker 2: like my best friend.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. It is such a small world. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I love Eric. Sorry, no, yes, you're good.
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  Speaker 1: You can tear your favorite favorite but anyway, like no,
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  Speaker 1: he isn't one. Okay, so yes, okay, well, so love
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  Speaker 1: trap sheet. So how I trapped scamed this guy? Basically
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  Speaker 1: I needed five hundred dollars and I knew he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be with me or have a baby with me.
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  Speaker 1: So I just faked a pregnancy and had a fake abortion. Okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: did you have some pregnant pee?
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  Speaker 2: Did you did?
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  Speaker 1: Did you give him the one two blue stick?
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  Speaker 2: No? Because who wants you to prove it when you're
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  Speaker 2: ready to have the abortion and they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be with you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you just got to do the SOB story. But
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  Speaker 1: the most recent scam, and by recent, I mean this
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  Speaker 1: was seven years ago when we started the show. No, no, no, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: we start our show eight or nine years ago, but
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  Speaker 1: it was right in the beginning of the podcast. So
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  Speaker 1: I started fucking with his European dude, Okay, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a scam. Yeah, yeah, So he to New York,
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  Speaker 1: but then he moved on to Latvia, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to go see him in lats Villa because nothing
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  Speaker 1: in Lotsville. So he's like, yo, well, why don't we
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  Speaker 1: go on a nice trip. Have you ever been to Italy?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like yeah. He's like, give you in a venice.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like okay, he said, I'll take it to the opera.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to stay at this hotel. Right, Okay. You
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  Speaker 1: know that's the scam that rich people keep alive because.
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  Speaker 2: But everybody knows when you get in there and you
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  Speaker 2: in the box just looking around at other rich people,
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  Speaker 2: it's just an excuse to me, and they sell.
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  Speaker 1: Theross the way. So he's like, but I can only
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  Speaker 1: do it on this weekend. Now. I was out of
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  Speaker 1: PTO because I want When I was a young horse,
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  Speaker 1: I was always out just being you. So I PTO
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  Speaker 1: was done. So I'm like okay. My box at the
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  Speaker 1: time was like super liberal, very like Trump was like
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  Speaker 1: getting elected and he was like, we're protesting outside did
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, I know one thing he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be down for. So I called him in the conference
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  Speaker 1: room and I sent him an email like I need
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you something really serious, Like I can't
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  Speaker 1: discuss it over email. So flight was already boked. Knew
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  Speaker 1: I had to get out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Tim, like I need to tell
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  Speaker 1: you something and it's really shameful, but I'm pregnant. So
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  Speaker 1: he's like, Okay, totally fine.
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  Speaker 2: Jackie's pregnant right now, We've got maternity leave here at
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  Speaker 2: TIMO baby shopper baby, that's what.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing. We're gonna be good. I was like
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  Speaker 1: cake in the break room, I don't want to keep it,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I don't want to need three to
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  Speaker 1: five days off. You take the time you need it.
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  Speaker 1: When do you want? When are you gonna do it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually kind of broken. The flight
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  Speaker 1: was the next day, and I'm surprised to pick up
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  Speaker 1: on it Couse like my fucking hair was fresh. So
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I just I'm not ready for this.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do it on Friday, and then
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll need three days off Saturday, Sunday, be
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  Speaker 1: back Tuesday, and uh yeah. So I couldn't post anything
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  Speaker 1: because I was technically have an abortion, and then I
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  Speaker 1: kept forgetting I had a fake abortion because that next
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  Speaker 1: week we had a team outing and I was ready
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  Speaker 1: to get lit and I was like, damn, should I
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  Speaker 1: be well if the baby going it's not like the
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  Speaker 1: baby because you had it, didn't removed. Not you had
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  Speaker 1: it removed. I know, but.
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  Speaker 2: I still felt like you came to be party, shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be a little sad. Not she trying to keep the
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  Speaker 2: bide up in the corner of the party, like no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm having a good time, mind you.
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  Speaker 1: It was really difficult because then I went back to
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  Speaker 1: my desk and I'm in a sales environment. Everybody's you know,
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  Speaker 1: guys chatting shit, and I'm like, funk, I gotta really
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  Speaker 1: keep this up and be a little bit sad. And
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  Speaker 1: it was tough people, right, did you I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you did. You had the whole office that you
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  Speaker 1: were having this fake abortion. No, but I'm gonna hold you.
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  Speaker 1: I did tell one bitch. I was cool at work.
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  Speaker 1: Never mind, it is like why I told one whole
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  Speaker 1: at work and we stopped being friends, and I was
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  Speaker 1: so scared. I was like, this, bitch, she can't tell
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  Speaker 1: you can't like that. I would rather you say I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather you say I have her piece in the office
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  Speaker 1: than had a fake abortion. That is an embarrassment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'd still rather fake abortion. But anyway, that was my scam.
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  Speaker 1: That was beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Also, like shout out to having like a male boss
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  Speaker 2: who doesn't understand black hair, because a black woman boss
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  Speaker 2: would have clocked like, yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Just not ready fresh, right, you know. And I took
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  Speaker 1: the day off.
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  Speaker 2: I walked past your desk several times and I saw
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  Speaker 2: you on ass I saw well, I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, Venice was lovely and so was the opera scarce.
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  Speaker 1: God man, what about you a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Because well, well for mine, especially when you talk about robbery,
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  Speaker 3: that's what let me know.
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  Speaker 1: I have scammed someone before. So I own robbery. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got one. I do have my shisty in my bag.
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  Speaker 3: So this was when I was probably nineteen eighteen nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: I got flown out by a guy and I was
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  Speaker 3: in a hotel room. He flew me to Texas.
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  Speaker 1: He was there kind of hang out.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was cute, right, like I knew I was going there.
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  Speaker 1: I knew what I got flewed out. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: we were friends when this story happened. I remember the story, and.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he flew me out and we had a
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  Speaker 3: cool time, Like the first night we ended up at
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  Speaker 3: david Busters.
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  Speaker 1: We were having a fun time. We played games, we
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  Speaker 1: went out to dinner, all the things.
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  Speaker 3: The next day he went to it was either practice
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  Speaker 3: or a meeting because he was out there for work,
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  Speaker 3: which he never came back to the hotel room. Literally,
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  Speaker 3: I was in the room by myself, and then I
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  Speaker 3: had the money to just leave. This is also I
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  Speaker 3: don't have friends in the city that I was in
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  Speaker 3: at the time, And I was like, I just got
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  Speaker 3: really really good, good city to hang out in. But
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  Speaker 3: at the time, were you in b I was eighteen
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  Speaker 3: nineteen at the time. I was like, Bro, and I
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  Speaker 3: ain't got no fucking money. There was no Ubers at
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  Speaker 3: this time.
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  Speaker 1: You went to call a cab like, Bro, this is
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, twenty ten. Oh hs, yes, like
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  Speaker 1: this is this's a different type.
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  Speaker 3: This is a different type of strainage. You didn't have
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  Speaker 3: that all types of getaway apps. Bro, I don't even
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  Speaker 3: think I had an Apple at that. I feel like, right,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I could just rob a bank and
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  Speaker 3: it hit lift.
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  Speaker 1: Literally, the way.
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  Speaker 3: We're able to just get around is way different than
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  Speaker 3: it was back in two thousand and nine. Shots and
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: actually it was probably two thousand and ten because two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and nine, I graduated.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I just got I rate. Mind you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in this fucking big gass room. All of his
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  Speaker 1: ship is in there, So baby.
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  Speaker 3: I leave the He dipped without even taking his own
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: lit This gets this gets even crazier later.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Now, did you think at one moment that maybe he
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: had went missing, like he was a missing Yeah? Was
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: he testing you? Yeah, he just wasn't coming back to
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the room.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And mind you, I ended up finding out he was
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: one else because he's a whole ass nigga. Anyway, Okay,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: so I leave the next day, but I get all
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: ready to go to the airport and he never came
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: back that whole night. So I said, okay, well, if
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: this nigga not gonna come back, baby, I stole every
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: electronic in the in the room. And mind you, back then,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: this is how old it was too. You took a
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: coffee man, hollo on listen, I took I took like
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a portable like thing that you could watch DVDs on.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I took all of that.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I took that. I took two phones, two blackberries, not
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: he had at.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I took a pair of his shoes. No, they were
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: like new shoes, but I mean there were big size,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: and I was like, I can get these. I stole
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: everything that I thought had value. Would I say everything?
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I stole everything? Like there was like a watch in
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: there wasn't a Rolex nothing, but I stole that. It
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: was like probably a g shock. I stole everything up
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: that room, went to the airport, never talked to him again.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Ended up like selling this ship off when I got home.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Oh literally, I want him to see you on Facebook
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: market No you ready? You want to know the craziest
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: part about that? Maybe eight years later, maybe eight years later,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: he ends up sliding.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: In my d MS. Oh my goodness, don't tell me
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: forgot were he I think totally forgot who I was.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I lost weight and.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: We ended up fucking and again, and we ended up
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: seeing each other so much that I ended up sucking
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: him and his baby mama.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, which I don't remember this part of the story.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: That was the same guy, the same guy I robbed
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: ended up working in New York. Did you tell him?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Why would I tell him? I robbed him? Eight years
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: pro he knows you robbed what?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: No?
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I think he forgot, because bro, niggas be forgetting when
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: you fuck so many people.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe he thought he misplaced all of these items. He
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: might have also, he just disappeared for days on end.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Anybody could have.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: All I know is I felt like, well, damn, you
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: have a type because you slipped back from my DMS.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, well, you still look good
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: and maybe you're not a nigga. I want to rob today.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And so I was back out with him and it
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was great. We had a good time.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I cannot believe that's the god robbed today. Same guy
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: this is I do remember back. Yeah, the same guy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But I always goot. You ended up telling him, No,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I never I never told him before. Yeah, you never
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: said it was the same guy, same guy.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I'm almost asking, Mandy, are you sure, by the way,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: by the way, by the way to make this like.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He's a basketball player at the NBA.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Flayer probably really didn't you remember, bro, he's going to
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: be a city to city he's all the time, probably
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, at least you're consistent. You
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: clearly have a type.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I was your type eight years ago and I'm your
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: type today. And when he hit me, I thought it
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was gonna be on some like you remember that I
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: said this nigga doesn't remember me, but he still looks
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: good and so.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Be like, I knew this day would happen. And yes,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: he had robbed you. You were like, oh hey, what's up?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Streightener never told him to this day.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I robbed him. That's beautiful. Yeah, And we were working
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: with each other for no, no, no no. I mean
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like once he came back to the room and realized
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: all this ship was gone, what do you say, I
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: don't know. We never we didn't talk until he split
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: in my DMS again, so he blossom. I mean, I
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: don't know what the technology was back then, but I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: never spoke to that nigga.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Again, I don't know you could block back in twenty
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and ten. I don't remember how my phone at the time.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So he just never hit you up. We both never
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: hit each other up, mind you. It was back in
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the day. This is even before.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Instagram, like or this was this was either Instagram or
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I think we met on Twitter, honestly, and back then
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I got flewed out through the d MS.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, it was a I was living a very dangerous
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That was the time to be alive. It really was.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: As long as you had a blue chat. I felt
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: like you weren't gonna kill me. Do you do you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: remember how much he you sold stuff for?
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: And I think at the time maybe I ended up
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: getting like seveneve hundred doven know why?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a lot, but I ended up
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that is a lot.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: That is a lot.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: You were like eight. It was multiple, It was multiple devices.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And mind you, this is when you could like get
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: rid of especially good phones, because you could unlock them.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like a jail break. You get well
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: break up like it is now. Don't ask me how
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I had. I had technologies, Oh my god, equipment.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I fucking didn't even think this is a robbery. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: did two years. That's not a real robbery. But it's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a celebrity story. And if they heard this story but
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: somehow went somewhere, they would never remember this. So my
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: business partner and I, Alex Media, went to this party
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: after the jay Z Paris Louis Vuitton Foundation show. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: didn't know what party we were going to end up
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that and it literally was a three floor hotel room
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that was theirs. So we knew we were going to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the jay Z after party and we might see jay Z.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I ain't think we was going to see her, so
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: mind you were there because we were doing some production
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: for the show and we just ended up there because
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it was cool. So me and him looking at each other,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: we pull each other in the bathroom. Everybody definitely thought
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: were gonna do about we have a bathroom. I can't
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: believe it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: We're like, remember when I came home and told this story,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: like bruh to to not know you're about to be
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in their hotel room.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I was freaking out.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I also called the only other famous person I knew
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that had met them, and it was Charlemagne.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Charlotte was in.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Bed with his wife and I was like, You're never
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: gonna believe this. And what I love about Charla Maye
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is he gave me what I wanted.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: He was like, bro, shut the fuck up. He was
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I ain't even never been.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what I do. He's like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: just just be cool, nigga. So whatever, it's not like
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: we're really interacting. There's a lot of people there, right,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: but here's a robbery, sort so I know you better
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: not be telling me, Robbie. I wasn't a real robbery.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: So I had to go to the bathroom, and the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: bathrooms downstairs were full, and then the top level. I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: don't know whose bathroom is personal bathroom or whatever. None
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of her products, none of their stuff was in there.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But at this hotel there were like different soaps and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: different social hotels. So I it was d R D R.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: So I start taking ship from the room. As you
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: from the bathroom if you go to a night hotel,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: they got Bavard.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I take the towels from the hostel to use them
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: as makeup removing club.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Now here's the celebrity part that got funny.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I come out of the bathroom and the people that
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: are waiting for the bathroom are asap and Rihanna. Rihanna
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: was pregnant at the time.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: She she's always you know. They see me looking shocked,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and they were like laughing or doing something together, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. This girl was really fucked up. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: remember being like, what y'all doing? That's what I said.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So they looking at me like, but I'm like, what's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: y'all doing? It was like, nigga, what you doing? I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I was
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in there stealing ship. So a sap is dying laughing.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: He was like, bro, I take shit from hotels all
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the time. Swear to god, he does this.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: And this is when I was like, this is the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: funniest shit of all time. Rihanna's laughing at him. He's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: liken't don't let me taking shape, baby, and he grabs
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the cordless phone from the fucking bed. The nice anngles
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take this ship too, and bitch, I'm
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: telling you. I was like, do you know when you
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just expect somebody to be cool and funny? Literally, that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to me was like just the coolest interaction I've ever
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: had with somebody, because I just was all over theft.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: This how theft can bring people together. Tell you, except
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: from bringing you.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Apart from your belongings, we're bringing people. Because I was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: really sitting there with all the lotions and ship, because
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: my purse was on the outside, I was like, damn,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: oh my god.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: So you got thet you open the door, you got
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: six right, so wait, get in the hotel.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: We leave the elevator. It's like six am. We have
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: this great night.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'm in the car my business partner, I'm like, I
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: can't believe this. Shit, He's like, I know, it's amazing.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I stole a bunch of lotions.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: This nigga opens his jacket. Me too, bro, when I
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: tell you got twenty d R shaved all Blanc French lotions.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Every time I put it on the Spirit of Beyonce,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I barely use it because I do want to have
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: like a big meeting or something.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So I could be, oh, and then and you want
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to walk in the room with the scent already on you,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and then she'd be like, what is there exactly? Not
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the voice?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Oh no.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I always picture in my head if I wear this thing,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that was like the biggest and richest room I've ever
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: been in my life, Like the owner of LVMH was
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: there and shit. So in my head, I'm like, I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: going to recreate this luxury, this richness, this moment and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: visualize it. So yeah, I think I'm doing well because
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: of the lotion.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: That's why we have a New York Times and that's
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: how we made it into the New York Times bestseller
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Love Shampa.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: We see his lotion. She probably never even went in
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that bathroom. There was seven bathrooms. I saw the hotel
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: room on YouTube. There's seven bathrooms in the hotel. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: know she never went in there, but you know that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: was their.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Party hosting three story hotel. Yeah, they probably had another
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: three story hotel for like the.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Fun of their items were in that hotel. Yeah, not
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: at all. Julius was there.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: He was garden salt bitch beyond. That's how you know
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: he's famous, famous for your bodyguard is famous. I've literally
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: been at tours and we were like, Julie.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Has It's also only because he's so good. Look, he
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: is so fine. If he wasn't that fine, none of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: us would give a.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Fun That's true, Big Rob, rest in peace. We all
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: knew him he was on TV as like, we didn't care.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Until he was on TV. But like Julius was fine.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably want I don't want to sault our queen
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: or nothing, but I do be trying to run.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I want to run. Just grab me and throw me away.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Grabbed me, right, I'm like, oh no, not just Julius. Look,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: she's a little too intentional about this, Like run up
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: had nothing. I took the low set.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, over.
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• 26:44
  Speaker 2: where I will Gale, Weezy and Mandy with a famous
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: concaper group of criminals we don't know yet.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. We'll get
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: your opinions all throughout.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, So today in Historic Hoodwiks, we're gonna be talking
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: about a well known Arizona news anchor who left her
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: TV job when the pandemic started to why can't I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: say this word? To found a company designed to help
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: people steal COVID nineteen relief money. So she founded a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: company that was designed to help people steal COVID nineteen relief.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: What was the what was the thing that she called?
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: What was it?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: The PvP, the SBA, Like yeah, she was like she
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: started her company to allow people to do crime under
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: her synd a kid, you know what I mean. She
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: was like she was like organized crime, but like really,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: let's organize it. But wait, so they knew they were
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: going to be fucking people over well, let's see. So
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Stephanie Hockridge was once a very familiar face in Arizona households.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Look, she's she's giving me like cheer Captain and she
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: would give housewife home coming Like, yeah, I've been watching
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: her and she looks like she does not believe in abortion.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I'll not really, but only when she has to go
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to her aunt's house. And at sixteen and she just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: goes to her aunt's house for a week and a half.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she comes back. Oh, she should be
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: a cousin fucker. I was just saying, that's I'm from Texas.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You never heard about people going today aunt. Yeah, we
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: started talking like they can think about cousin.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, and I know that's was like you
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: jumping the cousin fucking I wasn't, Yeah, what's going to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the aunt's house? Oh? So, like I guess maybe it
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: was just the thing in Texas, but like in high school,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: like if a girl got pregnant and they weren't going
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: to keep the baby, they would like go to their
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: aunt's house for like a.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Week or so, and then they would come back and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have no baby, no more. Oh wow, no,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that's not a thing.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: In Florida, we just set abortion.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it was like, oh yeah, you know she
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: had her aunts house and then we never heard.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: At your house out of town. Never heard that what
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I tell how you did your never heard that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: This is a very specific lie only I was telling people.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like that was something you see.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, shit, oh my goodness. Honestly, the irony of
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Texas and not being able to have an abortion, like right, yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it makes no sense.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I recently offered up anyone when Rogi Wade got a return,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, if anybody wants the abortion, dell
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: send me a message.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: DM me like, I'm gonna send it to you. I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: thinking three to five women going head all three to five,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: bitch forty. At one point I had an assistant at
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the time. I'm like, Yanna, how many abortion pills can
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: we get?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Eat?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like, we gotta help these girls. All of it. With Texas,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be Georgia, but maybe Jordan. They're
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: driving somewhere else. I don't know, but all the Texas
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: girls were like, bitch, we fucked. I had three strippers.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: It was a lot and they were like cash app
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you thint gotta do? Give me no donation, get me this.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: It was rough. Oh no, it's so terrible.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I'm from tech Is. I love my state. I hate
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it's loss. So Stephanie Hockridge, who like I love I
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: love it. She also gives me like Pilate's mom, like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you know, like she looks pretty fit, you know what
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: You're just looking at her tits. But okay, okay, I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Im By and I had the day
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: day right there. I don't know. We're looking at a headshot, honey,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: where's the fIF You're.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Saying, literally it is a shoulder up and you said,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: she looks very fit, her breasted high John white women
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: with a smile.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Pilates. That's what the photo is. We looked at I
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: was trying to give a very genteel description. Now you're like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you know, lie word to Eric. This is why we
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: have trap houses, and I'm the hose. Every time I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: want to do a little agree, I gotta see this
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: bitch and not be a no. This is what we think.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: What you like schooing your mat over a little bit.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: My dog is gonna be right here. Well that's actually her.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: She breaks her dog everywhere. Na own is gonna be
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Be at their okay period, No, so yes, this is her.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: She very looks like all American very shiny hair like
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: chunky highlights of a of a time and a place
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and an era. So she was on the news in Arizona.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: She spent seven years as an anchor at k n
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: x V dash DV. K x VS sounds like a slur,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. So it's one of the ABC
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: affiliates in Phoenix, and they would do she would do
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: stories like this one like look at her. Look, okay,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: look she does look like she does pilots. We're seeing
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: more of her self. She do.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Now Senior scammed out of every cent to her name. Tonight,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: we know the Apartment of Homeland Security is considering a
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: proposal to separate children from their mothers. I gotta be
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: honest with you, this could be a stark reality that
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: we are facing tonight with hundreds.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful forgettable would never have known if I'd seen
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: her before. I could watch her every night and I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: couldn't pick her walk in the pastor and be like,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know that one wouldn't know what I said.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: My homegirl she went on a date. My homegirl's white
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: and the guy is like, very financed bro guy. She
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: sends me his photo and I'm like.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Didn't you already fuck him? And so she calls me
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: because she's laughing. She's like, dude, a lot of the
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: guys just look like like a lot of white guys
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: with that padagonie like, and white women have that aesthetic too, yes,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: when they have the aesthetics. She's like, it's just like
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it repeats itself. I'm like, yeah, now her totally feel like.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, she's a coffee pasta white woman, Like she absolutely
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: should get into crime because that face is so forgettable.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You could literally rob me at gunpoint, broad daylight in
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the park and I would not know.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Well, if she ended up in a lineup with a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: lot of other women that look like her, wouldn't be
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: able to wouldn't don't you slap three brunettes in a row?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I would know. I wouldn't know. Forgettable face. She could
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: come up to me with the gun.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Broad daylight in the park and be like, it's me
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Stephanie Hawkrich and I'll be robbing you right now more
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: at eleven and I'd be like my money, and then
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the police come up be like, I don't know. I
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: think she hit me over her head. I don't remember
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a thing. Maybe I wasn't robbed. You know, great face, Stephanie,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: We love this for you. So she was nominated for
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: an Emmy. So someone noticed her band named favorite Newscaster
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: by Arizona Foothills Magazine. You know Arizona Foothills Magazine, not
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: my favorite magazine name about the Foothills.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Wait, this is her? Yes? No, no, no, that's not her.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: That's a difference.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: That's not her.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, maybe she just had extensions. Do you
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: see how fast I say yes? I told you. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: do not know what this lady looks like. I think, okay,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I think that's her. I think that's her. That's one
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: of her faces.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: This says me, the new face of foothills and a
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: new face indeed, because we will never know. That's a
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: little So this is like a lifestyle luxury publication. So
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I guess the girls in Arizona know about the foothills.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: And so she had it all until her twenty twenty
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: five fraud based fall from grace.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Wait a second, she got caught five years later after
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the pandemic, so she probably kept it she.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Got now yeah, oh this is more of a recent development.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Gonna lie, what's the crime and how many years?
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Because like, wait no, That's why I asked, was it
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: PPP or SBA because a lot of p P P
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: loans got forget God, forget well, the thing is only for.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Rich people like Koy Kardashian's PPP loan was forgiven.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: But then like pp yeah did he had all like
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: all all the and like multi Chris Brown had a
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: PEP and they were like for millions and millions of
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: dollars and all of them forgiven, forgiven.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But if you took out thirty five thousand. Baby, they
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: come up with that. Okay, if you if you was
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: a little woo from.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Baby baby pretty Ricky Ricky Rickey.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got caught. Here's the problem too. He
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: chose to do it and spend money on lambos. Yeah
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he did. God, lambo, bro, he got some fucking cars.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You gonna get some lambos? Now, no,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that is that is not them. That is how the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: woman who worked at Amazon got caught.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: You can't be sitting here pulling up to the parking
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: lot and lambos and baby you didn't have.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That last year, but now pulling up. But it's five
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm on it period survey. Let's oh yeah. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: was trying to think, like if maybe me ten years ago,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: ten years ago, I've been twenty five. So wait, no,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: some real ship when I was getting big checks at
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: work or something big happened because I worked commissioned wing lampos,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I was getting gold teeth and ship I was, I'm Afflorida.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I went right to be Flora Orlando seven, but so bitch,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I went to BB and then I went to hot
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: topic because I was those little girls. I get a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: cool little spike bracelet from my tight little bandace dress
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and then go to to the bottom. That's what I'm
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Then maybe I'm gonna get me a little
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: ponytail like yours, except it's gonna.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Not move me.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: They're all still eyebrow left.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get those are those aren't six figure purchases.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: They aren't like I only three hundred dollars and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: spent three fifty. Do you know what? Let me tell
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you all scam. I used to do that. I actually
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: forgot about. Okay, So no matter how much you overdraft,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: as long as it's one time, it'll be thirty five
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: dollars fees.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: So I would go with niggas to the clubs. Trap niggas.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, I get credit card points if
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you let me pay on my card, so they would
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: hand me cash. I wouldn't have the cash in my
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: bank account, but the card would still go through. So
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: then it was like my cheaper payday loan is to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the Amscott. That's genius.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, you weren't paying any kind of exorbitant interest rates,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: you know you're the guy. But a community bank, hello,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a credit union. So that's a credit union if I've
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: ever heard of one.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And I remember once when I was like going over
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: with the guy that I was asking for like my
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: first secured credit card. He was like, how can you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: afford just spend one thousand dollars at Taboo nightclub? I'm like,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know what to say. But
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: anybody your's house, that's what you say? Yea, all is
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: somebody else's business. So no, but I love this. This
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is actually really smart.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And then you weren't paying those because payday loans are
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a scam and they cannibalize on people. They do need
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: money fast and can't afford to make choices when it
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: comes to lending.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, if you need the money now, it's like
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: whatever the interest rate is.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: They It's like if I feel a pain in my
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: chest and my left side goes numb, I'm going to
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: the hospital.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like what how much the ambulance
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: hold on before I get in?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Like I do, and I have money now, girl. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: woke up one morning shivering thought I was gonna die.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I called my mom and I think I'm dying out
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: of kidney infection.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Which is it?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And literally I'm on the phone and she's like, girl,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna call now. One day.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I said, oh no, that's a I don't. I don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: know how much the ambulance bill gonna be. I could
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: just call it uber and I called the uber to
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: come pick me up to take me to the hospital.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I wasn't getting no ambulance.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: What I'm Uber to the hospital. I'm Uber into the hospital.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Like Uber is really our first response, y'all delivering the grocery.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: You know that they're not allowed to drop you out
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: at the emergency room. I went to go visit a
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: friend who was in and they stopped doing it. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: got dropped off. I didn't switch the location on the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: way there.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: No, mine was to the er and this nigga wanted
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: to stop at every light. I was literally like, bro,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: can you like get me there? My nigga, you know
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: you see where the pen is at. Took me straight
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to the hospital er emergency room.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Drop me off.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: B you got water for me.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: You should also have a little emergency con you could
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: put on the tope of your.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Car so we can't you have to stand yeah hello, no, no,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: the phone charger, get the get the little that's.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: There was no traffic. It was three o'clock in the morning.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It was three o'clock in the morn Okay, yeah, no
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you need more serious. But I got dropped on right
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: at the er. Well.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, So back to the toy twenty five fall from
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: grades for Mims Stephanie who was everyone and no one
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: at the same time.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: So fraud City.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: There were plenty of COVID beliefs. Like we were saying before,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: there's plenty of COVID relief frosters out there.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: You have the US Small Business Administration guaranteed aid to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: keep businesses afloat and keep employees paid during the pandemic
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: using paycheck Protection Plans PPP and eight hundred billion dollar
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: loan initiative, So they was really giving up the piece
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and the piece and so men financial tech firms that
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: facilitated these loans did no due diligence to prevent fraud.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: One fine Tech Cabbage approved hundreds of loans for fake farms,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: including what claimed to be.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: A potato farm in Palm Beach, Florida, where.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Who no, no, an orange grove in Minnesota, because you
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: know how the orange groves in Minnesota be Those are
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: my favorites.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Oranges is the Minnesota that was really good. And cattle
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: farms on a sandbar in New Jersey. Cows love the beach.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: They weren't looking into anything. They were just approven every
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: single loan. They're like, what's the forest for.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Our cows on the beach. Shouldn't I do this? I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: actually cause you didn't want to be in prison, but
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you do own a business.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: You could have probably got George forgiven me, so I'm
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: not gonna hold you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Literally, we had this conversation. So we were thinking about
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: expanded traphouse to Atlanta because of course, right a lotis
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a trap and literally my business partner on the phone
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and she's like, why is it. At the pandemic, it
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: would have been done.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: We would have literally bout all her reformers and pons.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, it's so true, wrong because during
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the pandemic, what happened for all of us? Right, Mandy
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: started business. I started business too. So it's like you
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: end up sitting down and really putting your head in it, like, hey,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I have to pivot, what's next to Note that the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: government was funding us to be on our own, Like fuck,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I might be on Stephanie's side.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: It sucks that they want to put all the small
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: time people in prison.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: They wiped out all these millionaires like debts, and I'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: like and did like cool, I can pay y'all.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: She got out a Geene money and they send them jeans.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: They not cheap, They're not cheap, and they they actually
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: pretty nice. No good Americans. This is not she's doing
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: something over there with that stuff. So I'm just gonna
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: say that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: But you know, they're getting one hundreds of billions dollars
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: possibly up to a trillion dollars ins and in this
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: time period. So Stephanie Hockrid, she accounts for a pretty
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: big chunk of that ppep.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: How being something.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So she left her news anchor job in twenty twenty,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and weeks later she co founded a financial tech firm
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: in Scottsdale with her husband, Nathan Reese. They called their
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: new company blue Acorn. That sound like financial ooh. His
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: zapigures called me the hard ar.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm not gonna lie to you. These
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: are the types that just are cops by face, yes,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: not tree.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: He don't even have to wear a cop uniform. If
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I saw him would be like a good evening officer.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Like this is very much what you're doing there, boy
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: right ooh, he's pretty late to be out right now.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: What was Do we know what his background was?
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Well, we don't know his big because I just love
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to know how in twenty twenty, after coming off of
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: losing your job or quitting your job as a news anchor,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: how you then just open up a financial firm.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't think that lot crazy though.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You gotta think a lot of people that are like
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: starting new businesses get into tech, they get into different
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: type of at the time.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: He probably That's why I asked what his background was,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: because no, people don't just wake up and say I'm
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: going to start a financial firm today.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: There has to be so sort of like what can
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: we figure out? What the what the husband? What the husband?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Did he work at? Like a at a hedge fund?
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Did he work at you know anything? Jumping into finance.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It's like Brian and I have I was an accountant,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: like and I worked at a big four firm investment bank.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Like you don't just imagine you as an accountant. I No,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I can't. Bro Goldman Sachson, Ernston young. That's yeah crazy,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I know. Literally everyone was like, but you don't have
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the personality of an account I felt offended.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: But also little too much brisk for accounting list, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm no longer account Yeah fifty back, Yeah,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I'll make kids. Yes, your friends got kids? How how
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: many people can we claim as dependent?
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: But yeah, just making a financial firm in the middle
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of the pandemic is a little.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's a lot.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So they processed over twelve point five billion in PPP billion.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, it best with the B with a B. Twelve
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: point five billion. Oh, that's why she got caught.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Was somewhere between two hundred fifty million and three hundred
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: million going to the company's ownership, including Miss Stephanie herself.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Missus girl. Where the fuck were they living on a yacht?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Right? Like, I'm sorry if I make twelve million dollars
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: doing anything, I know it's a leader.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: She didn't believe the country well.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Because they disperse a large amount of it, So I
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: guess whoever they were doing it for. Oh true, Like
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: they didn't keep all the billions, but kept at least one.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I ain't gonna hold you. I would have stopped it
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: a good ten MILLI yeah, I did.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to get it to the
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: billion billion.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You know you're going to jail with billion, somebody's gonna
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: be you going.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: To jail hundred million. Yeah, once you get a nine figures,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: it's too far. It's too far.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And like if you're gonna do this kind of heightst
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: then it's like, don't wait for the government to find you,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Like make your number that you're gonna get out with
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: and if it's your ten million or if it's okay, stop.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I think it is said done though. Yeah, see, because
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you know how it's like you watch people just continue
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to like push themselves be successful, like all three of
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: us do. I'm sure right, maybe you really can't stop.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: No, It's like all the drug dealers I used today,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you already have a nice house.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Like, well, there's people, there's people that're passion Well, there's
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: people that push the goalpost. Like if ever you see
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a movie right where they're bank robbers, they always say,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: this is the last one. The last one was the
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: last one, Like it's a thrill, it's excitement, like dan Zach,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: this is still working.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: So they're back to them their partner lenders facilitated almost
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: three times as many PPP lungs in twenty twenty one.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Then JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America combined.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're like out doing.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: The financial institutions. Their mom and pop startup combined. Yes, combined.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Wow. So even though only one Blue Acorn employee.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Was directly involved in processing loan applications and no one
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: at the company had any training on loan underwriting, so
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: they had one person processing all the loans, they had
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: no idea how loans worked, but they was getting all
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: these loans more than making Bank of America and JP
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: morgan Chase combined.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: So the more loans you process, the more fees you collect.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: So Blue Acorn their company received over a billion and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: taxpayer funded processing fees for facilitating these loans for people.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: So they were the middleman of people getting these like
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: fake ass loans. So they would recruit people to submit
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: for loans which they weren't eligible, and Blue Acorn would
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: fake their payroll records to tax documents and bank statements.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: So in one instance, Stephanie and her Blue Thang Nathan,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: obtained a PPP loan for more than one hundred and
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: thirty six thousand dollars for a company that didn't have
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: any employees.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: You know, the employees are vibes. The employees are the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: people we met along the way.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: But also many businesses don't require employees, Like so if
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you're you would think you probably could scam it out.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Well no, that's why I know.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Like I asked my account at the time, like nigga,
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I want to I said, I pay people, but they
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: weren't on payroll, which means like you had to actually
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: have peril. So independent contractors, if you were a company
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: that paid people through W nine's and stuff like that,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: you technically didn't qualify for PPP because you actually had
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: to be paying into payroll.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a ADP or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But a lot of production companies think about it like
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that are independent in LA when they got PPP loans,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: like you could just be registered as a DP or
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: an editor director or whatever and like boom, there's.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: All that money type shit. You're right, you are absolutely right.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure we all have LLCs and corporations obviously,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: but so it's like that is a company.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have any ployees at the moment, but it
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: is a company, right. This is why people got This
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is how people got it. That's why I admit that
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I had that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Pe can't outs yes, we have to get through seventy
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and her shenanigans here. So they took out that one
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: hundred thirty six thousand dollars low, but didn't have no
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: employees for the company. Then they charged borrowers a kickback
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: or a success feed based on the percentage of loans
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that were funded.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So if people like, wait, so it just depended.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: So it was like if they got the loan for
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you and it was a large amount, they were like, Okay,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: we're gonna need to look cut it because.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: They deserve it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, because they put together all the line
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: documents for you payroll tax like they doing it. So
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Stephanie and Nathan instructed staff to prioritize speed over accuracy
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: because that always leads to good things.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: It just does.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Application reviewers were told to push through questionable applications, ignore
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: red flags, and skip identity checks unless fraud was extremely obvious.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Because the Oranges in the South, was it like.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: What they're like, I don't know if it's like the firefes. God, no,
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: don't give him no PPPs. Believe he really was about
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: to make a festival. Diplow was gonna be there.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I was trying to go I to Pirefest two boots
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: on the ground. I needed to understand I did kind
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: of want to go to two. I was like, Yo,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: they do a little influencer joint.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I fin he could have really did this ship for real.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: It's just that he don't want to be serious. Billy
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: don't ever want to be serious about nothing. He just
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: want to do my ley and be on boats. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: do too.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Billy told me, yeah, you have to do more. There's
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: more to light than molly and boats.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It can only be a small percentage, like twenty five
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: percent of life.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I'm with that. Yes, some staff.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Processed hundreds of loans with no training, sometimes within thirty
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: seconds each.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: So they was just like stamp stamp approof not the yeah.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: But on Let's just say they took ten of twelve billion.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But what is it he's gonna calculate a million. That's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million. It doesn't even fit on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: my calculator. That's okay. They got a lot, ten pers
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: they got a lot. Let's say I want broke the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: staw so much money was a calculator broke.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: So the original fee structure for PPP loans meant that
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: small loans netted like blue Acorn, a few hundred dollars,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: while large loans would yield tens of thousands of dollars,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: like with their kickbags.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And they percentages and all this right, So they started
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: a VIPPP.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Okay program that allowed high dollar clients to bypass standard
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: review protocols.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So if you needed a PPP but she was a VIPPP,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: they said, we're gonna take twenty percent. Yes, cows on
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: the beach.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: It started as a nightclub and they opened a bottle
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: service section. This is a vipp for pp loan fraud. Okay,
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: we love it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: They started. The Middle of American said, you know what,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: we're taking this. How were they doing it so many years?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: If COVID when did.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: So you know a lot of people did start gett
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: picked up for those PPP loans until years.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Starting it right now, Yeah, they're not giving out the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: loans anymore.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: But what they're doing the same thing with like taxes,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: like how the IRS takes some time to get on
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: your a S if you're not paying and ship is
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: the same thing. Now that they've given it all out,
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: they're going back through the red flag exactly.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: So seeing this company that just was stamping everything the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: everybody scam that I really want to get involved in.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That's not a real scam, but I would like to scam.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: It is a New York housing lottery. I don't know
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: if anybody listening knows about fish.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: If you win that lottery, it's almost better than winning
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: a real lottery. Don't you live on the list for
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: like years, Yes, so I've had calls, but I never
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: got chosen, like over the years. But basically, if you're listening, so,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: because New York is such an expensive place to live,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: they have many apartment building luxury apartment buildings where they
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: get a percentage of it of it up and basically
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: do it for low income New Yorkers and residents. Now,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take from anybody.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: But I would like war listen, because I saw I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: would go through the poor door, like, oh, I was
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: just gonna ring up the poor door. I don't even shit.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Put me with the motherfucking dorman and smoking on the corner.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. Fucking New York City luxury
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Florida Stale Renose high Rise. And I'm not talking about
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: other Burrows.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm talking about Chelsea Flashhirned No Lee time punch
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: me in that bitch, and I'm gonna tell you I'll
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: start dressing different. I don't give a shit.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I quit one of my jobs or give the motherfucker
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: housing lottery because nine hundred dollars for an apartment that's
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: forty eight hundred put me in. Literally, I'll do my
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: own repairs. I'll be diploma, not you a super show
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: up with a plunger. I have a jutwo from one
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: of my jobs, so I can't get in it. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I literally think every day like I will say, fuck
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: this shit, I'm done. If they call me and I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: get in, I'm quitting. Oh my gosh.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Will you kind of low key have to like if
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: they call you, it doesn't matter if your lease is
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: about to be up or wherever you're staying. You have
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: to drop every time you have to break your lease.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: If you're in a lease to go there. Yeah, it's wild, Okay,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're not alone in that like that.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: That's a New York fantasy. It's like a New York.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: I want a lottery apartment. Yeah, yes, oh my god.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: So in slack messages, Stephanie and Nathan told their staff
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to dismiss smaller loan applications with phrases.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Like delete them and who fucking cares? And they go elsewhere?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Who fucking cares. We're not the first bank to decline
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: barwers who deserve to be funded, they go elsewhere.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Bitch, okay, okay, stuff now, she said, you too broke,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: you're borrowing too little, said she wanted bigger, Yeah, bigger borrowers.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, and so she in the slacks saying, who fucking cares?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Delete them? She said, she said they're peasants. Literally, get
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: these peasants out of here.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: We gotta steal faster than that. That's we're not stealing
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: fast enough with them. Tell them to go home. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: in one message, Stephanie said, closing these monster loans will
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: get everyone paid, and another she referred to a one
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: point nine million dollar loan as a deal. She wrote,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I don't need to tell y'all how much Blue Acorn
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: makes off that loan alone. Like these are not deals,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like these are loans. There are loans that should be repaid.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: And you're also like just faking paperwork for people. Now
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you're calling it deal. I wonder if they never thought
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: their hands were dirty because they want no, you're not
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: the loans. If you're making a bake statements in docum,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: maybe they thought, no, oh, someone else was gonna get
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: caught with you. You're faking. You're making all the fake documents. Yeah,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: but they don't have your name on them though you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: are the company creating the fake documents.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing where all those nurses in New
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: York got locked up during COVID like scale, right, the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: people carrying the fake COVID vaccine cards weren't the ones
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: that went to jail.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: It was the people falsifying the fake vaccine cards. A
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: stack of COVID cards. I forgot where I was. Oh, oh,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I was on the fucking subway. I was waiting at
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: the like you know, little brown Yeah, so it wasn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: on the subway. It was anyway. I'm sitting down and
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, and I'm like, is that like
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: forty of them? So then I'm looking around because I'm like, nigga,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: do I sell them?
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: No?
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: No, Let's be very clear. This is how we know
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: our government is a crock of shit.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: There is no other document ever that was accepted as
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: a handwritten dot like it was on a fucking.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Listening have enough time, okay, I relied.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I had to fill in my second COVID shot on
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: my thing and it wasn't because I didn't actually get it.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not anti jab. I got my jabbed up, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, jam me, so I'm curious, but some
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: more so. I was like, I got asked, but I
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: need to be a first in line. And then they
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: was like, I love hookah. Put me listen.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: They were like, you're finna become a zombie and I
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: said that's fine, I ain't gonna try to.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: They were like thinking that if you put the Q
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: tip deeper, it was like a better result.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god. I had my brain scrabbled like
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: never out. They was all up in my shit, like I.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Had to get one to go back into the US.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I remember I was in Mexico and my boyfriend came
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: out and he was like ooh, like I remember hearing him,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: and I was like, oh shit, I ain't going in there.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: So now I went in and I'm like all right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I was negative when I got here, so I try
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: to like negotiate with lady. Please, I'll give you all.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Like I was so terrified that I would start bleeding,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: and I just remember it was two of them holding
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: me down to get down because I was terrified but
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I needed to get I was in the airport, brud,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you remember how hot it was going, And all I
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: remember is, oh no, no. Everybody was like, there's kids
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: scared because of me. Girl, pussy, No, they crazy.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: You should see that they should not be holding you
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: down for anything in the airport. So in one text message,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: She's Stephanie blamed one loan rejection on her husband's failure
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to forge a schedule see tax form. That's because Nathan
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: is terrible at photo shops. So she was blamed like
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: this not getting done on her man. She was like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: my man's is not good at photoshop and that's why
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: your loan got rejected. Sorry a queen, honestly like rob
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: your man. Blame things on your man, like that's what
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: your man is for. So Stephanie, they have canvak. Yeah
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: this is a now times, Like there's canvas so many
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: options you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Can literally do it on your phone.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure, you can take it right now. Yes.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: So Stephanie's devices contained original and altered versions of ten
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: ninety nine forms, one of which was fraudulently increased from
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: fifty seven thousand to one hundred and fifty seven thousand
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to qualify a borrower for a larger PPP loan.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: So they were like, oh, you actually have this one. Yeah,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: this had a little one.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm just giving you all application little rees, okay,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Like it's like a dating profile, but for money. I'm
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: trying to get you all the likes. Okay, you got
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: to take this picture of your holding a fish up
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: off the page. Okay, we don't want to talk about
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: pineapples on a peace. I'm trying to make you sexy, okay,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: sexy for loans. Like so, Stephanie and Nathan fabricated documents,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: as we know, for them, but they also did it
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: for themselves too, and they applied for hundreds of thousands
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: of dollars in loans for which they were not eligibly
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: clearly okay, they said.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: If you can treat it, you can do it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: So they got over three hundred thousand dollars in paycheck
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: protection loans for themselves on one application, they claimed that
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: he was a veteran and black.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Oh no, he didn't do that. Okay, now I know
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: he's racist. He did not. You'll get whatever you need.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I don't give a ship he did. You know why
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: he did that? He says, right now, black lives matters.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: So he was like all this woke nonsense, woke media.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: He said, I'm black. He was right.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: He was liked, are getting all the loans? I mean
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: he didn't even write a black on the application he wrote.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: They were like racing this and he was like, d e,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna lead.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I'm woke. I'm not gonna I don't know if this
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: photo was wild. They were rich. That watch would have
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: been looking different from me.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that watch ain't ain't quite it. But maybe he
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: was trying to do quiet luxury. I mean, when you're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: a black man and a veteran but also white and not,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: you really.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Got to keep it a little profile. This is the
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: how however, we have to justify what we think about
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: these motherfuckers. I hate them. They deserve all the years
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to get just because of this sacond year. I'm so sorry.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Just the fact that Nate was claiming that he was black,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: like why you stole the dollar? And why you gotta
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: be black?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Why are we in it?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And also you should have known they was gonna pick
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: her as fastest say he was black? O, some damn
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: people dat you call got?
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: You call it like, hey, that was another black person?
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: He wasn't me right, he said, baby Blue got caught,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and Nathan was right after that.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe he thought of the fast slid. He was like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: do I look like a black betterman? Do? I?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Clearly y'all at the wrong house. I don't even like.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I don't even I don't have mark for men. That's funny, shit, wow,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: oh my god.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: So in another application, this is Nate again, that out
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: of pocket husband.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: He claimed to be an independent contractor in his wife's business,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: but documentation obtained by a congressional committee shows he was
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: never paid by that company.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, he was white when he did that.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: So Stephanie and Nathan both answered no to a question
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: about whether they owned other businesses or multiple PPP loan
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: applications for multiple businesses and messages to her dad. Stephanie
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: coached him on how to apply for three PPP loans,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: and she told him come up with a side job.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: You did for extra cash like independent consultant. Oh but drive,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: she thought her parents would receive sixty thousand dollars in
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: free money. Her dad eventually got money one thousand, five
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars in pppns.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: The fuck out of here. Well, at least they were
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the family. At least they would taking care of the family. Okay,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: but that's why drug dealers give a hood like back
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: to the hood.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, but see Okay, but that's to me giving back
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: to the hood like with the profits. Then it's like,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not making you an accomplice and a crime. Like
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: she could have been doing the crime and then just
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: been like, oh dad, crime is going great. I just
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: wanted to slide you a little bit. No, don't have
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: your going don't don't instruct your dad how to fraud.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And now he's implicated. You could have just broken off
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: some I think.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Your parents be down right now. If I called my
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: mom and said, hey, somebody from the tax off is
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: about to call you, I need you to say you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: live with me, she'd be like, okay, yeah, for sure,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: my mom down. How long have I live with you? Less?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do it right now?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: You want to do it? Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, she's about to call her and see we're
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: going to Sam.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, hold on wait let me see. Hey, kamma, somebody's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: about to call you to verify my income. You need
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: to make sure you live with Say you live with me.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: That's not much of a scam. I thought you were
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: gonna say something more scamming. No, no, no, just start
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: asking her random questions. We can't call her for my number.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I just be like, oh, give her the number. Wait
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait we got to call her. Oh
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: my gosh, literally like wait wait, and I'll be like,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: did you see my tax? Oh my god? She like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: she works at tam Obile. Right, just start saying ship.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: My father's about to be like what Actually, cold calling
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: her might be even better. Okay, now my name is Guila.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: She adin't answer. She's probably napping. She just texted me.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Fuck.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Look we tried. So this is how I know my
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: mom and I know she would do it because one
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of my homegirls and I prank called my mom when
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I was in high school. She was like, hey, we
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: just want you to know, like she got suspended because
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: she was talking back and doing this. Not my child,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you gotten the wronger. No, she wasn't. She's like, I'm
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: telling you right now, she was passing notes in class
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: saying bad stuff. Somebody else did it because it wasn't
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: my fucking child. And the next time you want to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: play on my phone, I mean was going off and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I really am bad.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know why she took off for
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: me like this. I know because she got to stay
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: at all business. Hello, Okay, we are united, Fred. And
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: then when we get behind closed doors, please get a
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: little dicey.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: That's very much exactly like, why are you taking me down?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Why I gotta go off work early to come down
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to the school house? School you out to showing your
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: what's fucking ass? One of my moms fly? Okay, got it?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I get a real one? Hello, real one mom is
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: colle fact?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Hi? I have a reference down here for Joel. Yes, yes,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: so I have an application in front of me with Gila.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I am she's your daughter?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Correct? Correct?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, so we were just verifying her living situation
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and income. She works at T Mobile. Yes, okay, you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: have businesses? Okay, yeah, we just have to like assess
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: like some finances and collateral and things like that and
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: payment history and things like that.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: She also said that you two lived together. How long
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: have you been living together?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Eight years?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Eight years? Okay, that's perfect, that's that's exactly what she wrote. Okay, awesome,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: thank you credit. I don't understand. Oh she said she
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: has ext on credit. Oh, I know she does. Okay, So, Mom,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: this was a damn. I had a bunch of businesses. Now,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: my now it's not we need to clarify this. Wait,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: so when somebody calls you and I'm trying to get load,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: why would you say she has a bunch of businesses
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: on top of working at T Mobile? That wasn't it
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound so much, Mom, that wasn't a good fe.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying a lot. You did?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: We did together? Y'all ain't lived together for eight years?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: You said, Oh, you were really trying to think.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: No, honestly, though, she convinced me. She convinced me so
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: much that y'all live together eight years. I started writing
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: down eight.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: No, that was good. Okay, you passed the test, mom,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: by I wonder what Mom? Dude, Oh my god, that
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: is hilarious. You got a real way bringing up a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: nursing home to get it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: And now it's true, but you see, she was trying
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: to pull it the hardship my husband in the nursing home.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: She thought her she was giving me extra information because
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: she was like, she has a lot of business and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: she got good credit because I know because trying to
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: get you that loan, she was gonna get you that long.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Because you know what, every time my mama see I'm
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: about to get some money, she'd be like, damn, what
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: are we gonna do it?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't wait to see what vacation
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: we got girl. The second wee became New York, time
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: I sell, my mom said, how much extra do you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: man to get it?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Nothing? Girl, I love it. So we're getting to the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: end of this story.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: I can't second with my mom calling me, and she
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: was really standing a sly business. It was quick, widow,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: real quick. The only one, only one where I was like,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: how long you live?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Again? She got a little tripped up for a second,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: like let me see, but then she came back with
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: a strong line.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Number eight is a very good line number. It feels
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: she was a ten, feels two round five, feels a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: little made of eight, feels like we've been in this Yeah,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: we've been in this and she kind of gave me
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: a little lore.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: With it, like, are you all enjoying living together? Well,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I guess listen. Talent. Talent, I see where it comes from. Okay, talent.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: So living it up.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: According to public records, Stephanie and Nathan left Blue Acorn,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: that was their loan company that they made up, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: relocated to San Juan, Puerto Rico, which has no capital
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: gains tax in twenty twenty one. Now see that's what
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about. If you gonna see little bunch of money,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: then you need to leave town now.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I don't you know when white women wear baseball
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: caps like this with some kind of inscription, you're like, oh,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: country club, Well yep, and they might be on the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: run apparently. Well, she's drinking her Whispering Angel with a straw.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, you need a bottle of wine
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: with a straw when you're living like this.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's stressful. Okay, they moved to Puerto Rico. She
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: just looked. They so on the run.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: She ain't got time for cups. Okay, you can't run
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: with a glass in your hands and bottle in the straw. Okay,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: we can't.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: We got time to port a shit because we can't
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: stay that long.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: And you could tell they weren't friends with already wealthy
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: people because nobody would have advised them to go to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Puerto Rico.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, she was probably like a part of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: the Arizona elite because she was the Arizona elite.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Sorry, if you're live in Arizona, y'all could be elite,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: y'all caear how y'all have.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Y'all rock parties of the rock garden, y'all would have
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: lines right anyways, But yeah, the Arizona lite because you know,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: she on the news, she on TV, so she was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: probably hobnobbing and schmoos your organ So but you're right,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: the hat is giving. It's giving something, and it's not
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: a recession indicator for sure. But baby, y'all shouldn't have
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: gone to San Juan. That's still in America.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro. And tell y'all, we colonized that you've
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: got to go up further.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: So they filmed a video showing off large amounts of
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: cash in a bar and on the balcony of a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: luxury beach front apartment.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if I would call that a bad.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess this is a large amount of cash
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: and like white people perspective, because like.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Men with larger I'm heading.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: It up to my face and taking big phone calls
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm seeing some like dollar bills, Like it looks
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: like one.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: It's not a blue Yeah, we're a don't look, don't look.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: It looks kind of used. Yes, rob a stripper.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: It's given the the stripper was getting money use on
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: the ground, scraping it up fast security caught you. That's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: what it's given. Nah, you went to as diamonds and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: you started sweeping up the floor.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Like, how did I got cut so?
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Well? When Nathan started a new company, a lending service,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: it was a consultancy named Lender Service Consultants l LC.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I mean straight to the point, we lend your service.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: We consultants.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I'm here for the address for the company is a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: three story luxury apartment that sold for two point three
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: million dollars in twenty twenty and features a plunge pool and.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Two coy ponds. Okay, this is love coy. I love
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: a fish for for opulence.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: So Stephanie posted a photo of herself in a bathtub
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: holding stacks.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Of money to her ear. Oh she did the money phone.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Of course the photo isn't publicly available, which is heartbreaking.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: But it was not.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't never say what people just say? Who calling me?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: They better not be brown? Who's call whose? That's what
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: she probably put on it. I mean, this is so
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: damn resent. She might have had some ry. It's like
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: it's the beds. It's the F, the B and the E, F, the.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: G and the ies and probably the C, the eye
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: and the I R in the s would also lie
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: a word, all of them.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: She did a PPP. You get another acronym. All the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: acronyms coming at you, all acronyms of the slide to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: no home.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're about to have usps everything like everybody named
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: mamo CMV. They coming to airybody. Okay, don't scam with
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: them acronyms. But at Stephanie's trial and June, prosecutor said
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: she once described the PPP program as a one hundred
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: billion dollars of free money.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: What wow? Is that what she thought? Yes, money is
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: never free. I don't know. I want to live in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: this mindset.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like I've been thinking money costs money for
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: so long or time or energy.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Or blessed wed and tears. They do, But I want
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: to be more on Stephanie's vibe of like money is free.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Give me, give it to me, and no whole part
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: we did some strange things for change. If you read
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: that book, you're gonna be like, oh, money really ain't
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: free nothing. Money is never free, especially when it's a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: loan or helping for relief.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever they say relief, they do expect you to
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: get relieved like this. They like, Okay, now go ahead
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: and run it all back. This is called a grant. No,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: it was like I got a grant this shit. Even unemployment.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I once got unemployment from a place that like wrongfully
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: terminated me, and it was so wonderful because the job
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I had worked before that I made way more money
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: and so they had to pay me what I had
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: been making that whole year.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: And I remember like after I got off, I got
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: my first like serious regular acting role while I was
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: on unemployment, So I was like, thank God for this firing.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: But when I got off of unemployment and I was
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: no longer needed the.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Relief, and I was relieved, Oh you still got to
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: pay tax.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: It was like, oh, actually we gave you too much,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: and actually you need to pay taxes on that money
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: that we took out of your TAXI so that you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: had a safety net if you weren't working.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, we do need a tax This is a real thing.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: There's a girl I want to hire that currently works
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: at Orange Theory and she was like, well, I only
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: can give you two classes a week until I'm finished
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: playing off my debt with them, So I think she
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: robbed Orange Theory. She said they overpaid her her hourly rate.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: She thought she had a raise two years ago. She
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: now has to pay them back by working until it's off.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I said, well, how many how much is it? Homegirl?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Is a surf?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Eighteen thousand dollars? You are No, they were paying her
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: like forty more per class.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: And that's your bet. That's your bet. No, have you
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: now I'm a slave? Have you told to a lawyer?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: And she's like, apparently, like whatever I signed is paying
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: mistakingly pay me if I didn't fix it. Yeah, okay.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: See I've heard of banks like if they accidentally deposit
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: money into your account that's not yours, if you spend it,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: they will be on your ass, like I'm not.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Leaving the country depending on how much money goes into
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: my account. Fuck that, No pod guy at one hundred
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: of class and now you get on one forty.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: The podcast will be recorded virtually moving forward. I now
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: live across the pod.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, you go see me in time like always in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: the shadows and her voice is altered. Zoom background, that's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: not yeah yeah, yeah no, it's always a zoom background.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: But it's just looking like a location anymore. It's always
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: like a movie title. Man.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: She said, I thought this one hundred billion dollars was free.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: That's crazy now, but you have to pay. You have
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: to pay like that.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I love the confidence though of like just going through
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: life thinking that money could be free.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: And you know, well I want a little bit of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: that for me. So this just happened in June. We
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: don't know sentence.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Well, so she was found guilty on one count of
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: conspiracy to commit wire fraud and not guilty of four
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: other counts. Nathan Strold is scheduled for August, where he
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: faces similar charges.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: But excuse me, jail. She only got one out of
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: four because she fucking gave them the rest of the money.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: She paid somebody off. Oh yeah, no, no, no, we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: do someone got paid off.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: We gotta do some temper because they made a billion dollars,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: like they got the money they paid somebody.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: That's that whispering angel, right, Okay.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: She was like, yeah, damn that. And yes, I mean
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: I will I want white people. If you do the crime,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: do the time.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: And this is what I'm saying. What sucks about really America.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is you have to bust
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: your ass to become rich because if you become rich,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: you no longer have to follow the law.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no longer.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: It's literally what the fuck? Like, bro, we look at
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: our president is literally a felon.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: For sure. It doesn't matter once you have money, nothing matter, no,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: And and what's wal to me is that we know that.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: But pretty Ricky, not pretty rick I can't want to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: say baby little bait, but baby blue and I'm pretty Ricky.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: He had to go to the clink. He did, he
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: got out, and now they're on the millennium like they're
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: back torn you know what, And that's all we're gonna do.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Get out. I'm better get out of jail to a job.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: He better run to the stage the way that random
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be out there. I'm literally paid. I would
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: buy a ticket over and over. I'm going to help
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: my niggas get out right, get put them Lambo's bag, sir.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what sending scene that they get.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: But this is still a fresh story, so we don't
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: know how much time they're going to be doing, if anytime.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Bring but low KEI like, I mean, they just took
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: advantage of the situation, but they got a real corporate
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: with it, like that white collar should be here.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: It is different. I hate it. I hate it. Well,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: thank you for so much for joining me. Oh wild right,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: and for bringing your mother.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: My mom has probably got so many scam stories. She's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: literally never had a job. She's been a housewife for
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: her entire life.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I love that for her. We need that forever. Jewel, Well,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: what did you do when you were young? I had
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a boyfriend and us friend. I didn't have to do much.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Jewel's like one of those people that have you ever
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: seen those TikTok videos where it's like a really rich
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: woman getting out of like a very expensive car and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, what do you do?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: For a living or like what do you do for work?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: And she was like what that's my mother like confused.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: You also gotta be careful now those are they're doing
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: those with AI.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: So a lot of those videos the fingers there, they're
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: literally not well they've gotten better with the fingers, but
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of those videos now, like the man on
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: the Street stuff for that stuff is yeah, it's all AI.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: It's a I Now, yeah, look like you knows damn.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: AI is really like, let us do your joy for you.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Listen to the influencers. There was one girl I only
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: knew it was. I saved the video and I was like, oh,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: this is cool. She like slurped the whole chicken wing
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: and it was.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Gone, oh man, I saw the one with the black
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: girl that the munk bang with the yes. The mom
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: was like, yes, rampant lopster just yeah, it came out
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: of nowhere. Butter came out of nowhere.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: It's hands Ai.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: There were two girls doing a muck bang and I
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