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Bad News Bears: More unfortunate updates ahead of preseason debut · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Windows City podcast presented by fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, you know that man right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Shapiro, I am kind of Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are here to talk bears football, NFL, and injuries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Evidently, that is the focus of what we're going to do today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a few injuries, two bad, one good, and also one that we've talked about that doesn't seem like it's moving in a necessary direction that the team desires.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: let's start off with the biggest injury update that we have, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that the bear safety Kobe Bryant was supposed to miss up to eight to ten weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is now changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did end up having surgery at the end of last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he is expected to be out for at least four to six and months, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So perhaps the entire season.
0:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We wax poetic about fears in him rushing back and fears in what that may look like.
1:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely will prefer for him to be here this year, but part of me to a degree is happy
1:10
[SPEAKER_01]: exacerbating something.
1:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean that as far as if he's not going to be right this year, coming back to 14, is trying to go to the playoffs and continue and trying to prove something and then end up in a, and this is just my opinion, messing this deal with the bears to just sign them up because maybe there's two seasons he's not writing instead of, you know what?
1:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just beyond the shelter of the greed of season was a wash after he got hurt.
1:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I like it?
1:34
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Alex doesn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's be grownups with the fact that the deal is what this is a three or four year deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do you remember Alex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't hear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can look it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, it's just brutal that this guy hasn't even played a snap for this football team and we're already talking about 2027.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's just, um, especially as you were mentioned, he signed a three year deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so his three year deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the bears now are getting a maximum likely two years out of those three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and it's worse when you consider he was the splash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you mentioned it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was so much upheaval in this secondary, that was a very good secondary last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You lost a lot of ball hawks in Kevin Byrd in the Sean Wright and Traumaid Admin's on how he's a linebacker, but those three dudes took the ball away at a high clip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Kobe Bryant was the answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was not only going to help in the takeaway department,
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[SPEAKER_02]: helping the run game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to help in the box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to help cover the middle of the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to do all of those things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it was like, okay, yes, the bears lost these three high impact players, but hey, don't worry.
3:06
[SPEAKER_02]: They got a super ball champ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got a veteran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got a guy who's going to help our rookie, Dylan Deaneman come along.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to take Deaneman
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to be both a leader on the field, off the field, it is the blow of losing those three guys and now I mean you the bears never really even got a chance to see that realized so it stinks for the Chicago Bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely unfortunate for the Chicago Bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think also it makes me question again the versatility that I believe Dennis Allen was trying to infuse that defensive backfield in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, whatever whoever's going to end up taking being the starter from majority of those reps isn't going to be as versatile as Kobe Bryant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then the flip side of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It limits perhaps what you're going to do with Dylan Thineman because does Dylan Thineman have to play the back more and the guy who ever is going to be to start it being is it's going to be more of a traditional role where the guy is replacing Kobe Bryant may be more of a jico on a brisker type where you have Dylan Thineman play more of the.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin Bire's situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like this was supposed to be more of a situation where you never knew where it was coming from you know I'm saying where as far as who's playing what and it kind of throws off the defense with offense rather with what they expect and who they expect and also on the flip side When probably you're a little calico or discussion because hey, what's like what I'm talking about calico or What calico Gordon was going to be able to do so it's unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, hey guess what
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[SPEAKER_01]: your head coach said that he wants to break the season score record by from the Denver Broncos, all right, to the athletic, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna have to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's the point that I'm just gonna give to, hey, if you're gonna go out there and try to score a 40 points of game, you can still be a really good team, particularly the flip side of that, could be where if you had defensive pass rushers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be able to say, hey, forget the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, don't even worry about the run because these points on this board, they're going to go to a passing game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pin your ears back, go get that quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, maybe you hopefully look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Flipside is if you can do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have a great pass for us at all that year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there were a ton of games where if we really talk about, we talk about it here, they weren't up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely where games are up, but they're just games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're a dead place from behind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to play from behind a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what if this, if this is a structured offense where it's playing all the time and they consistently put up points, you can in some cases make the offense one dimensional how they come and that could benefit your defense and know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to pay attention to the run as much depending on how much time is on the clock, and how many points are already on the board.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the bears have addressed this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have, I guess, like, tried to stop the bleeding for lack of a better turn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got the turn to get on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They signed Xavier Woods.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, this actually reminds me a lot of the Garrett Bradbury situation, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears think they're set at Drew Domin at center with Drew Domin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden Drew Domin retirees and they're like, whoa, we got a, our plan A is not working out anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to go get Gary Bradbury and then we're going to go get Logan Jones and Gary Bradbury, I don't think anybody is going to say, Gary Bradbury is Drew Domin, but he's serviceable, but serviceable, that, that, oh my god, I'm really struggling here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Serviceable, that is a veteran center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can trust him to make the checks, make the calls,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bear's sign now, Xavier Woods, who nobody is saying Xavier Woods is Kobe Bryant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, I do not mean to disrespect these Xavier Woods.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a veteran safety who has had a lengthy career and has had a lengthy career for a lot of good reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not the type of player that Kobe Bryant is, but this is a guy where now, okay, hey, we have a guy who we can plug in.
7:15
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that he's gonna know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if your watch has played a lot of football, he's seen it all, he can communicate, he can make the he can he can assess what's going on in front of him and make the right reads right it's he going to be the huge playmaker that Kobe Bryant was expected to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can make plays, you know, he's not the type of ball hawk that a Kevin Byrd was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can pitch in two or three interceptions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can punch out a force fumble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a solid tackler.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, you know, it's obviously not their plan A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: obviously, but they've landed, they moved quickly, and they got to a plan B that you could feel decent about, right?
7:59
[SPEAKER_02]: That, okay, we're not, what was me?
8:01
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not waiting for Elijah Hicks to come back.
8:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not waiting to see what Cam Lewis is going to be doing.
8:06
[SPEAKER_02]: They, they,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, credit to the personal department, credit to polls for getting them, getting bodies in there and getting capable bodies in there, not just not just bottom of the barrel guys, you know, Xavier was, he is an NFL player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a veteran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows what to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bear's fans might be familiar with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played his season with the Vikings, so they did take some action and they did replenish that room a little bit.
8:31
[SPEAKER_01]: What can you do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'll say this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As some point during this season, depending on what happens with the defense, there will be shots fired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, because pro personnel wise, they didn't do enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then talk about the front four to really help the back end and in the silent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's a situation where again, not taken care of front four and then have an injuries on the backside that was injured last year.
9:03
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, if there are some some holes there, and that can be from bad play calling, but of course, I'm talking about personnel decisions, but if that plays in, it won't be all hugs and kisses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, you're right, it's not, he's not a scrub.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still not Kobe Bryant, but this also speaks to the fact that there's more than one ways,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to skin a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you still could have helped that defensive back feel with generating more pressure up front, getting to the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the quarterback is hastening his pace to get rid of the ball or getting hit in the balls coming out or getting set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So absolutely.
9:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I mean, we we talked about all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, hey, we like to don't eat them in pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It fills a need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, they need help up front still.
9:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when we're talking about the Xavier and Thomas pick one, we're talking about the Sam Rausch pick one, we're talking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're not going to, we're not going to give my hard time about the same thing, but it's like, man, I get you're going to play 13 like 10, 15 snaps of game, but a D to your D's probably going to play 40 snaps of game, and you can just a lot out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it just, it just, that that stuff is, this is where it, like, Rears, it's ugly had even more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's where the rubber reads the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to flip and go to the offensive side of the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther Burton, of course, was injured.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we now know that he will probably be missing the remainder of the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely still a concern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Strange is growing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want that growing to be an issue moving forth throughout the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good that they're kind of shutting them down for now to get that right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, a guy that we've talked about and a lot of people have talked about, but actually I just watched a clip of the fantasy football show is being, and one of the hosts saying that Luther burden is the most hype fantasy Claire since Anthony Richardson.
11:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That I thought they're going to say like Josh Gordon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you would think when you think about you would think something up because when you're talking about Anthony, you talk about somebody that you're thinking is throwing for touchdowns and running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he so there's a lot of promise there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of promise there compared to just a receiver on his second year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw, I guess the thing that we're trying to say is you would think Anthony Richardson meant more to any fantasy team than what Luke the burden that Anthony Richardson hype was a lot larger than the Luke the burden hype.
11:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think I still think Josh Gordon is a deep sleeper man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking him in my 50th round.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He signs anywhere man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's liable to pop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's been six years since he's played.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got fresh legs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still waiting on that Josh Gordon season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still believe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still believe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a deep sleeper picks on the Wendy city podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still waiting.
12:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: court, you had to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would have to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But your thoughts on Luke the burden missing the preseason Alex, do you think it had bear any effect on his season moving forward?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what do you think about the bears?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh well, the bears being cautious with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see this two ways in one way it does not move my panic needle that much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously missing the preseason like does not help a guy, especially a second-year player who is expected to make this big leap.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like the bears are counting on him to make this big leap the way they're talking about him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been hyping him up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Big time at Alice Hall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And from what I saw, the second
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, this guy knows the playbook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy, the game is coming to him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The game is slow to down for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We watched that happen where, yes, would more time on the grass in year two help him, of course it would, of course it would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think it is
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[SPEAKER_02]: like gonna wreck his season or totally derail everything because he's gonna miss the preseason now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I could have taken a few weeks to get back up to speed like will he be a hundred percent, weeks one, week two, will he be a hundred percent the whole season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but I think you know, by week four, week five, week six, I think it's reasonable to expect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be the Luther Bird and we expected him to be and then that's what matters.
13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You want Luther Bird and at the peak of his powers in December not September to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's more important that he's at the peak of his powers in December Kind of sounds like yeah, get in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
13:51
[SPEAKER_01]: This is something we talked about with the Devon has to number one receiver issue again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not Devon has to slander
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in that scenario, it took place with Jay Cutler.
14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about the lack of weapons to help the offense and how because of how much you were playing a guy that was looking like he was going to be a Hall of Famer, a special teamer, but their amount of money was paying, you had to also say this was a silver money, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or we're going to try to find out, or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that helps the bears in this scenario where it's not all doom and gloom, you got Rome, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Raymond and I know there's this offense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like he's getting up to speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cliff Raymond knows the drill here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a part of Ben Johnson's lines offence is for several seasons.
14:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You got lovely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got commit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know I'm saying you got a jade like they there are like back in the days in the scenario.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be sitting at some of jade's the number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be like like Eddie Royale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's real in the men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything just get jade out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People will be writing in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that jade is better than the guys that we're talking about as far as we with the hopes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the point being, it will be your most teams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It will be the third or fourth player that as bearous fans, we will be saying now they're the star and just feed them the ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Compared to one, Rome is still your number one receiver
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so you haven't lost, you know what we're seeing here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, you may not have lost your number one pass catcher because look, I mean, I was the person because coast of love could be your number one pass catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not saying this doesn't affect them, but in the past, this would have been a lot more dire than what it is right now, but on the office and if I can, if I'm going to take pro personnel shots on defense on office, baby, no, baby, they, they are loaded on that side of the ball.
15:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember the copium when people are like, oh man, I just can't wait to see Cam Meredith next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you imagine Cam Meredith with a full training camp?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the people in the chat last week when we were remembering all the terrible offensive linemen somebody out in the chat was like remember her own is grass who Oh, they didn't know it was a grown as grass who they hit us with the her own is grass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking Eddie royal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking down trail in men.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking cam Meredith remind us, remind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Byron Pringle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remind us of bears receivers gone by.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the one from era?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the one from the Patriots the first round was the kill Harry the kill Harry and we will not say he whose name should not be mentioned Chase Claypool which actually wasn't as crazy right we just didn't know he was kind of loopy right just think I mean so everybody think about then all right then this is not this is not that and on guess what?
16:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna hit you with two other things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all for our fans forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Caleb Wilson, and you got Ben Chasse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like a kid Williams, Caleb Wilson bless with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let me do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's five thousand times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that I'm going to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we do because if we don't, that means that Caleb Wilson is who we hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope we make that mistake and we because I hope we had a Caleb's.
17:15
[SPEAKER_01]: If you could tell me my football team has a superstar and now the chance of our
17:27
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be this isn't about, we're not, there it goes, if anybody, if you're not looking, it's fun to be bears, bulls fan again.
17:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex has on a bulls t-shirt right now.
17:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I have one of bears t-shirt right now.
17:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I usually don't wear bears, remember, video on the show or in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Caitlyn Hendrix, my former colleague, Caitlyn Hendrix got me this t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Caitlyn, but we're not, I'll tell you this for all the body listed in a watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do basketball talk today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do a basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all the bulls information you're getting today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's everything you're getting, but again, Luke the burden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Out of the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other side of the coin, so this was the side of the coin that had me not panicked and I think you did a great job of elaborating that like yeah, the offense is fine.
18:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the one thing that gives me a bit of pause.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that it's a grain injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Green injuries buff and this is the thing that sideline and really held back jail in Johnson last year if you recall jail in Johnson dealt with that growing all year and then came back and came back too quickly and then all of a sudden you have the set back and then all of a sudden that led to another injury because if you come back and you're nursing one thing you're favoring one thing all of a sudden you're over compensating somewhere else on your body and it can lead to snowball effects so the fact that it's a growing.
18:48
[SPEAKER_02]: is actually a little troubling, because growing injuries, they just have a history of like being tricky, and being in order, it's like the hammy, man.
18:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You never know with hammy.
18:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that these, those injuries are, these are just precarious injuries, but that's like any injury isn't precarious, but it's the injury that can easily be re-injured, like regardless of how much rehab you put into it.
19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the injury that you're always looking out for throughout the remainder of the season, and I'm looking forward in the future seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Kenneth, is this, does this news make you more or less likely to take the over or the under on bears wins this season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do you think this will negatively impact the bears opportunity to hit their winning total this season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are these two moves subtract one win from the bears in your book?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could then, if you say one win, I can see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, should they stop them from making a playoff, it shouldn't because anybody can go down at any time.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, if Caleb is healthy, right, if he has
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say three to four of his weapons, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he has two of these, listen, if Caleb and Ben Johnson who we think they are, they should then be able to do it with three weapons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm giving them still to run it back and two prominent past catches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then fill it in, because just both we throw in the ball around anyway, it's supposed to look more, and I'm not trying to say this, I don't know, it's hate green bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lot more like a packers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Catching room as far as anybody can get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying like we spread this all around right so one when that I could see that but this shouldn't Procute them from still like we're a playoff to know because now you you just said they lost Jalen Johnson from majority of last season correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyler Gordon, majority of last season.
20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned German, German Edmonds was out large.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: CJ Edwards was out large to the chunks of flesh.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, no, this, you're, both of your safeties, not safety, both your corn is, uh, uh, Tyric Stevenson was out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know how many people you were out last year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They weren't there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that was the best part of your defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a big enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on stick with offense on a brighter, brighter, brighter note, Ryan polls was on Hogan Johns and mentioned that Aussie to pillow is a
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a can't prior to during the preseason rather than what I mean to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that's just one for him to get to practicing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the whole thing, and also, also, as I've had myself on the back,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I take a lap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take a lap, take a lap, no, no, no, no, I'm not actually taking this one because it kind of went the other way, all right, because I'm going to get so I had, I had, I had, I had ACL surgery due to a football injury and some other shenanigans and they took my tendon to replace my ACL, right, but I don't, I also, I don't know, and this is, I'll, I'll let you tell me and I don't know if this question was asked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with his tendon injuries, where they all go or where any of them still attached.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a teller that was a filler tendon rupture deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not remembering all the details around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So also, if you don't know, this is your kneecap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, your patellate tendons are what hook up to your femur and your big leg bone and keep the kneecap where it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, those are, you can fill it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bill unique app, they feel under it and above it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my Patelitan, and when I feel it, there's a space where nothing's there because they put it in between my, they put it where my ACL was in between the bones with my big, my top and my lower leg, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gradient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's been fine for a very long time, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As longer than I've been, listen, I've been alive with this longer than I was alive before, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let you know how long this surgery was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you we don't know how Ozichu pillow will be when he returns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And listen, that's for me for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic to hear for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is great for a young man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who came out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he was a second round pit, but we love camp like men does do can't even play left right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a right to act.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's get the first round pick on the right tackle or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we forgot about him on the left side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I see who.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it's in the best way possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, you don't want to notice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to notice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to show that we usually hear Chicago notice the left tackle because it's a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that he has a chance to get back to what he loves, but also what he was proving and getting to, I love it to hit his father, Jipola.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, because also on top of the fact that he made up and hopped out of that damn thing last year, they didn't have to use a timeout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was thought to paint the pain that he had to go through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's someone who was that practice and blew out my knee initially, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And having to get up and move around and just the instability, I just pillow a minute, shout out to you, props to you for doing what you need to do to get to this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever you're the train staff and the doctors were, shout out to them, but one is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is another thing too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you're not in the situation where everything you did
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[SPEAKER_01]: with the left tackle where, again, I'm sure Brockston Jones is still going to be your starter for the foreseeable future, because there is no reason to rush Isaac Jepalovac.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You slow walk this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Isaac, we really look for you by week three to four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say he gets back, he gets back before preseason, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to force him out there in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: slow walk them unless of course Braxton Jones is trash, but you can slow walk them to make sure he's strong enough to get out there and you got Braxton Jones who seems like you like I know we just talked about Braxton Jones injury prior episodes, you got Braxton out there you got a few guys
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got create argument dodgy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you got jerk Willis, you got, you got guy and you got Benedict, Theo Benedict.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was really, I would thought he would have been got more reps a little bit, but I could kind of let you know what it kind of made me where they really see him at, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also speaks to Dan Rochars, so this why I'm pronoun this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at what Darren Rochard did with that left tackle situation, and where it was okay, it's Ozzy, it's Theo, it was Theo, then it was Ozzy, I should actually say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what you were getting out of Theo, and again, it's not a knockout Theo, but what limitations it seems like they see that Theo has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To where it wasn't, okay, you were practicing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were practicing Jones really gonna be fine now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of like, okay, practicing this is your job and then the depth behind you will shake out or whatever to what Ozzie happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shalfa Dhammers are forgetting that out of the old Benedict with his limitations last year because I don't even know what I thought he would have been higher up in the depth chart this year or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But more importantly, again, your thoughts on Ozzie Chipillo and could be his glorious return to the bear's early
29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me, this is like all gravy for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we, yeah, we had already written this off as a completely lost season for Trepello, and even if he doesn't play, just to speed up his rehab, get on the field, get back to work, get back to work, you know, like actually getting better as an offensive
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me it's it's bonus it's bonus stuff for the Chicago Bears because we were under the impression that this was going to be a rehab year for Trepello so it's incredible news for his development whether or not he starts whether or not he starts it's incredible news for his development.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that makes you feel better about the swing tackle situation too, because if you can get healthy and you can get back to work and he's continuing to improve let's say Braxton Jones are like, hey, we got Brian Jones for a year and we trust him and he's, you know, like 90% Braxton Jones because he's doing with an injury for himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 90% of Bryson Jones is better than 70% as a trapelo, but like if Bryson goes down and you've got 75% as a trapelo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel better about that as a series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you're great point.
30:37
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's phenomenal news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's for the play on the field and for the future development of this second round pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so finally some good adrenus for the bears also also also let me let me
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were fine with Braxton because of Jelthoony, all right, because we in Jelwe trust, all right, as anybody should, right, but now you're saying to me, there's a chance that left tackle is now bolster even further, right, it's stronger is more stout and now the only question is about sinner and it's not like, oh my God, Gary Bradbury, but also you got an Iowa sinner behind him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as we talked about last week, what the bear's office of lying used to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing we used to say, it's not, they didn't have, they didn't have starters or backups, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had neither, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The backups were questionable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, like, you, this is so,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to shout out to Ben Johnson, because I'm going to put more to some Ben Johnson and Ryan Posts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Posts has had chances to do this before Ben Johnson got there.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and it was always I'm trying to wrap you to the PayPal and just pay Peter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, pay Peter his damn money.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but to think about that and that now
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[SPEAKER_01]: all around Caleb, you got guys, you got some guys out there, and to your point earlier about what these injuries of matter, if your quarterback has weapons and a style offensive line, and if he's supposed to be great, they shouldn't matter as much, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't have a Justin Herbert here who we make excuses for every single time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a winner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that part, that part, we got winner, winner, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I then something hit me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is anything else with the audience?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're a little situation you want to talk about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to ask you a question because you just show me practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't reveal it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is this is a pre show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and something you see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, while before we came on air, I'm going through social media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see former colleague of ours at NBC, Adam Hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'll be honest, it was posted on the score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Place I used to work at briefly, went on and off, posted on the score.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to everybody after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, post it on the school, but I don't know if they were, I feel like they were doing any of you a whole, um, but I'm just, I just want to perform and put that out there because I didn't get, it was a clip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have all the clarity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might not be a hug published clip, but hug is the subject of the clip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, and it's on their hook, when it speaks, we listen, when we listen, but this is what he said that the Kyler situation was akin to guess what name he used.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't say Kevin White.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you use this name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: guy who got paid a lot of money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not Nate Davis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, don't say Nate Davis, Kenneth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And why listen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then I'm listening to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at you and I'm like, they talk to Hogan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been spoken to Hogan in a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been spoken to Hogan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used to use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used to use their Davis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Something you said, he's saying that they're basically like, they don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To a prayer phrase in that part was like, we'll know that we'll homeboy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nate Davis is not a man you want to be compared to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And listen, I know with hindsight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: now knowing that he was going through the tragedy of his mom passing and that being tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That adds a wrinkle in a flavor and it changes the situation, but before that, before that, you know, Mike Vrable was happy to part ways with Nate Davis because there were questions about does he want to play football?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How badly does he want it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he really willing to put in the work?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, like, when you add the tragedy that he went through on top of that, it obviously complicates things to an extraordinary degree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he kind of...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Add that reputation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll put it that way, you know, that he from what I had heard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if if I'm hearing it, other people are here in it, he kind of had that reputation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So to be compared to that man is troubling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, but also he's saying right there, there was mad questions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying that you guys can know because you got people you listen to people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's mad media if the questions about why the hell did Ryan Poles sign a dance because of everything that Alice just said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, man, I ain't the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the worst part every and again, the tragedy of his mother, but those questions were answered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: with what people thought they were going to be as far as his play, all right, and his his desire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not dissing it because your mom passes whatever, but that was before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And before it happened, he wasn't living up to what necessarily they thought he should be doing and that's someone that they brought into their offense and giving them the effort.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and showing up the way that he needed to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, again, now seems like that's a question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is being brought up with Kyla Gordon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyla Gordon does not have the equity with this staff, as he did with pastors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ben Gordon identified Ben Gordon Ben Johnson Ben we're just talking about all these former current and now former boss players Right Ben Gordon was a great score Ben Johnson Ben Johnson is the head coach of the Chicago Bears he I did Tyler Gordon right away as yes, I like what I see you know like I There's a lot across tape right
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[SPEAKER_02]: I played the bears twice a year before taking this job.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know what color Gordon's about, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they gave him an extension before really Ben Johnson got in the building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Ben Johnson wasn't a building, but I mean, it was early, early, early in Ben Johnson's tenure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So...
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a shame, really, that this guy that Ben Johnson ID just says, you're going to be a cornerstone of my defense because I am not just, I'm a head coach now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my defense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now for Ben Johnson to say things like, I got to get to know Carla Gordon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just seems like such a missed opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does, and I said, particularly when you think about scratching the surface of what Calagordon could do, and never really getting all of it all the time, injuries have been an issue with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took him seconds to really get adjusted that first year with them playing them in a lot of different positions.
37:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the inside out thing, and that was a mistake.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was.
37:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, hope, it's a situation, and we've mentioned this guy, I hope it's a cow
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[SPEAKER_01]: where Vic Fangeo challenged Kyla Gortemique of the California.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Vic Fangeo challenged him and he stepped up to that challenge, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that Kyla Gortem could do the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if not, as I said, episode of two ago, I can get you one in the third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can get some one just trust trust in me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, I got, I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go down to play in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Malik, you play in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Young man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see that blitz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see that run stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you, uh, can you get your hat there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you get your hat in the pile?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bring down the right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bring down the ball area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any extra point?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could come up with one unless you have one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make my extra point a video game I believe for the first time in the history of this program.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So myself and some friends we have a gamer night weekly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We like survival crafting video games in particular where we can do our nice little co-op and build our bases and go out on missions and then come back with our loot and then make bigger stuff and then
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[SPEAKER_02]: Arguably, the best survival crafting game I've ever played in my life, and it was three, three on PlayStation, unbelievable, 120 hours of content.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost staggering to say that out loud to be like, I spent five days of my life playing this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a staggering thing to say out loud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this game, a biotic factor, if you are fans of the Half-Life setting, the weird, funky science fiction, aliens, and gross stuff, and your fans of collecting resources, and using those resources to make things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it's absolutely wonderful and it is unlike every other survival crafting game where you're punching trees for wood and you're punching rocks for stones, you're collecting staplers and you're collecting calculators to make, you know, make shift, armor and crossbows and stuff and you're fighting aliens and it starts with so spectacular about this game, Kenneth really in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is the story, very funny, and the story is very good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The environmental storytelling is also excellent if you're looking to like explore the world and let the Lord come to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The level design is also unreal, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You start and you like, you think you're in this tiny little office, this tiny little cafeteria, and then you expand and you're in these mines.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden you're taking on a portal to another
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[SPEAKER_02]: universe and your 20 hours in and then all of a sudden you unlock a shortcut and you're back to where you began.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the very beginning, you're like, wait, we're back at the beginning, but I have all these new things I could do all this new cool stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That level design, like what I just described just scratches this surface of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you play Dark Souls, it's very similar to that Dark Souls design of looping in on itself and you're like, wait, I've spent 15 hours doing this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was always good to get back to here incredibly rewarding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The gameplay is tight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The combat is tight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The storytelling is excellent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The power curve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will challenge you if you're looking for a challenge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will make you laugh, which is what you want to do when you're playing video games with your friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We like to laugh, and man, it just kept us occupied for, they kept us occupied for 120 hours.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm honestly sad that it's done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things where I'm like, dang, I can go for another 120 hours of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a shame that it's over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, a biotic factor, a video game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If, uh, if you like this type of video game can't recommend it highly enough, how many players do you do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure how many it supports.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had three in our game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we would play with two and it would be fine and then sometimes like if some dude could make it,
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[SPEAKER_02]: We would just solo and like farm stuff or push out a little bit explore a little bit and like you can solo it fine to I prefer playing like the more the merrier is kind of my thing, but you can absolutely do it and you can absolutely solo it just a spectacular video game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, a boutic factor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard it from Alex right here for our extra point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Wendy city podcast with president by fan side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we always appreciate you taking a little bit of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got some preseason games coming up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: all the hype of watching players that may be selling shirts and telling you our thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And find the guys that are low in the depth charts and you're like, wait, hold on, that one, y'all keep it there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There could be some Jack Sandborn, there could be some Jaday walkers, Jaday Walker was a guy who was looking like he was going to sell insurance until he wasn't until he popped off in the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So who will be this year, Jaday Walker?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like one of my favorite ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a three he had three names.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's I don't know if he was with the chief slasher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember was a defensive and tackle the bear's head was a big talker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had this is about four years five years ago can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw his name a week or two ago because he was with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he played with the chief recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he played with the chief recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Three names was a practice run dude who had a great preseason and turned into an NFL player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't recall, but people in the chat remind us who is kind of thinking about and who will be this year's player like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will think about it and I will get back to Alex says, put it in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We always appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get your fantasy stuff ready to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll put ours as the guys next week, what day I want to start talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can get to this fantasy football and talk a little bit all here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be safe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we will be back to breakdown some of some police season football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All righty, yeah, we appreciate it.