Latest / Reality TV Cringe / 275: Welcome to Plathville Recap - The First Kiss (S7 E9)
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to reality TV Cringe. I am one
- 0:09Speaker 1: of your hosts, the older ones with hazel eyes, Delia,
- 0:15Speaker 1: and I'm here with my real tight home girl and
- 0:17Speaker 1: my daughter in law with the brown eyes.
- 0:19Speaker 2: The brown eyed girl dress. That's me.
- 0:23Speaker 1: We're here to talk. Welcome to plaist pill and worship Honey.
- 0:28Speaker 1: We're gonna worship together.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Okay, Jesus, I love it.
- 0:34Speaker 3: We're gonna do it all together and I'm so excited.
- 0:37Speaker 1: But before we do, we have to issue you a disclaimer.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Please hide your wife and hide your motherfucking games. Dam
- 0:48Speaker 1: I'm going on vacation, yeah, and I am drinking and
- 0:51Speaker 1: I'm partying.
- 0:52Speaker 2: She does an intermittent fasting, so she's so I'm going
- 0:55Speaker 2: crazy from the lack of calories.
- 0:57Speaker 1: I'm pregaming, so Hydro, I find your kids. And please
- 1:02Speaker 1: keep in mind that this is a politically in correct podcast.
- 1:07Speaker 1: We say stupid things.
- 1:10Speaker 3: We anch it, and so if.
- 1:12Speaker 2: You're away, we warn you every looking week. Bro.
- 1:19Speaker 1: You might want to find yourself another dumpster, but if
- 1:22Speaker 1: you're ready to witness the nuptchals of lydia PLAF, then
- 1:27Speaker 1: welcome to this dumpster.
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- 2:27Speaker 1: So, before we get into this week's episode, my sweet
- 2:31Speaker 1: did you have any takeaways, any thoughts, any feelings about
- 2:35Speaker 1: the episode?
- 2:36Speaker 2: Really just I don't know why we had to have
- 2:38Speaker 2: that worship session in the middle of their wedding. I
- 2:41Speaker 2: don't know why we had to sing a cappella in
- 2:44Speaker 2: front of everybody, and no one else is singing, and
- 2:46Speaker 2: everyone's just sitting there all awkward, and nobody fucking likes
- 2:49Speaker 2: Zach anyway, Now we got to hear him sing at
- 2:52Speaker 2: a tube with Lydia. I'm just like, I can't.
- 2:55Speaker 1: And the thing is is, if you're gonna sing, project
- 2:58Speaker 1: your voice, like nobody could actually hear what the hell
- 3:02Speaker 1: you were singing about. Although I guess it was about Jesus,
- 3:05Speaker 1: but it's these like timid, little baby voices.
- 3:09Speaker 2: That are out of tune Jesus.
- 3:12Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, sing there please, it
- 3:15Speaker 1: was so corize.
- 3:17Speaker 2: It was embarrassing. I'm sorry, Lydia.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Did I have any takeaways?
- 3:21Speaker 2: You know?
- 3:21Speaker 1: Know, like my takeaway every week is like, can Veronica
- 3:25Speaker 1: get any worse? And the answer is always yes and
- 3:28Speaker 1: always yes, Like it didn't need to be this way, Veronica.
- 3:32Speaker 1: It could have been sweet, you could have been nice,
- 3:35Speaker 1: you could have just gotten along with people. But no,
- 3:38Speaker 1: you're like making it as bad as it possibly can be.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Not just for Micah, who I feel like is losing weight. Yep,
- 3:45Speaker 1: he looks like he's a pow. I'm like, save Micah,
- 3:49Speaker 1: but not just for Micah, but for everybody else, and
- 3:52Speaker 1: for yourself, I know, for it seem like a miserable
- 3:55Speaker 1: person and that can't be great to be for you.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And then she wants to go on Instagram Live after
- 4:01Speaker 2: the episode airs, yeah yeah, and say like, oh, it
- 4:04Speaker 2: was edited poorly to make her look like the villain
- 4:09Speaker 2: and it didn't happen that way, and blah blah blah.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I'm my girl, Come on, please, your behavior is so
- 4:14Speaker 2: bad every single week, like shut, We've.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Seen the entire season, and again they cannot edit something
- 4:23Speaker 1: that you didn't actually give them for real. So these
- 4:26Speaker 1: conversations you calling.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Taaken a slut multi on camera? Is that AI or
- 4:32Speaker 3: is that you? I feel like that's you, Veronica.
- 4:35Speaker 2: The producers are editing you saying now.
- 4:37Speaker 1: And they're loving it because you were such a twat
- 4:40Speaker 1: for the producers and so like, okay, well, we're just
- 4:42Speaker 1: gonna show everybody who exactly it is that you are.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Yep, and I live, I laugh, and I love they love.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 4:51Speaker 1: So, without any further ado, let's get into this week's
- 4:54Speaker 1: episode of Welcome to Blatfill Season seven, episode nine, Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 1: entitled The Thirst Kiss, The Thirst Kiss, The First the.
- 5:04Speaker 2: First kiss kiss, I mean on Lydia's part, it was
- 5:08Speaker 2: kind of air kiss. Yeah. So it's the day of
- 5:12Speaker 2: the wedding. We start off with everyone getting ready. Lydia
- 5:16Speaker 2: has gotten no sleep and she's obviously super excited, and
- 5:20Speaker 2: she's got her hair and makeup done.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Well, there's another reason she hasn't slept, Beatrice.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Well, yes, because we get into that. We go to
- 5:28Speaker 2: Kim's ass and she's getting ready right, doing her eyeliner
- 5:34Speaker 2: real thick, yeah, just like her booty.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, and she starts.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Giving us the story. Apparently, after Ethan peeled off like
- 5:43Speaker 2: a big old toddler baby on the wedding rehearsal night,
- 5:47Speaker 2: him and Isaac were still pretty heated about everything and
- 5:51Speaker 2: they wanted to talk to Lydia before the wedding. They
- 5:55Speaker 2: wanted to talk to her privately, and Kim wanted to
- 5:57Speaker 2: be there as well to tell her all of their
- 6:01Speaker 2: red flags that they were seeing. And I guess when
- 6:04Speaker 2: they asked Lydia to talk, she brought over Barry and
- 6:08Speaker 2: Zach and Ethan was like, nah, we don't want Zach's
- 6:12Speaker 2: gay ass over, because that's what they were saying, because
- 6:17Speaker 2: I'll get there. They don't want Zach there they tell
- 6:19Speaker 2: Zak to leave, but Barry, but Barry's allowed to be there.
- 6:22Speaker 3: No, but did Barry stay?
- 6:23Speaker 2: I don't know. It seemed like Barry was there.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.
- 6:26Speaker 2: It seemed like he was there because they just told
- 6:28Speaker 2: Zach to beat it and then they told Lydia all
- 6:31Speaker 2: the red flags and then Zach, apparently according to Ethan,
- 6:35Speaker 2: barges in and is like, why can't I be involved?
- 6:38Speaker 2: And Ethan's like, fuck you. We're talking to her sister
- 6:41Speaker 2: like leave and it causes like kind of a kerfuffle,
- 6:45Speaker 2: And that was how Ethan and Kim kind of recounted
- 6:50Speaker 2: the situation. Then we go over to Lydia and Lydia
- 6:53Speaker 2: is like, yeah, that whole conversation was just Ethan saying
- 6:56Speaker 2: he thinks Zach is gay. So I'm like, this is
- 6:59Speaker 2: what frustrats me because last episode we were talking about
- 7:02Speaker 2: some red flags about Zach, where I was kind of like, okay,
- 7:05Speaker 2: like those are fair and valid criticisms of Zach, Like
- 7:09Speaker 2: I get it. But now we're getting the other side
- 7:11Speaker 2: of the story, which is the only red flag is
- 7:13Speaker 2: that you think Zach's gay. Mm hmm, Like Okay, this
- 7:16Speaker 2: is so annoying.
- 7:18Speaker 1: It is really unsavory and obviously pissed off Zach because
- 7:26Speaker 1: Zach says to camera that these brothers have done real
- 7:31Speaker 1: and actual damage to Lydia and also to him like
- 7:35Speaker 1: this was uncool, this was unnecessary. I am her husband
- 7:39Speaker 1: to be on the eve of my nuptials, and you're
- 7:41Speaker 1: going to pull away my wife to lobby these accusations
- 7:46Speaker 1: about me that we've already discussed and I thought we cleared,
- 7:50Speaker 1: but you're going to continue in your function. And then
- 7:52Speaker 1: we caught to Ethan, and Ethan's like, believe me, I've
- 7:55Speaker 1: got no problem with the gays, Like why would you
- 7:57Speaker 1: ever think that.
- 7:58Speaker 3: I've got a problem with it's gay.
- 8:01Speaker 2: It's not that.
- 8:02Speaker 1: And I would hate to be gay, period. He would
- 8:05Speaker 1: hate to be gay, but I would hate to be
- 8:07Speaker 1: gay and not be able to live fully in the
- 8:10Speaker 1: expression of who it is that I am. And so
- 8:12Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about that with Zach, and I
- 8:14Speaker 1: just want to make sure my sister knows what she's
- 8:16Speaker 1: getting into. But I'm like, I'm sorry, big homophobia, homophobia.
- 8:21Speaker 1: And I bet you were drinking when you were bringing
- 8:24Speaker 1: up all of these things, and I bet you were
- 8:26Speaker 1: angry because you were peeling out in the prairie, yep,
- 8:28Speaker 1: And I bet you were just an asshole about it.
- 8:31Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering, like, what gives you the right?
- 8:35Speaker 1: Where do you get off doing this on the eve
- 8:39Speaker 1: of somebody's wedding. I'm just like, it's in such poor taste.
- 8:42Speaker 3: I'm shocked. Even Kim is the worst.
- 8:45Speaker 1: She's terriing shit. But I'm shocked, Kim that you would
- 8:49Speaker 1: allow your sons Isaac and Ethan to do something like
- 8:53Speaker 1: this to Lydia. Why wouldn't you say, guys, you had
- 8:55Speaker 1: your chance. Yeah, Like we've had weeks leading up to
- 8:58Speaker 1: this moment, like.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Just let her do the thing.
- 9:00Speaker 3: You've already talked.
- 9:01Speaker 1: To, Zach, like she's gonna do it, will be here
- 9:03Speaker 1: for her if things go wrong, but like, don't ruin
- 9:06Speaker 1: this moment for But no, Kim, you suck, Barry, you suck.
- 9:10Speaker 1: And so they had to subject Lydia to that, And honestly,
- 9:13Speaker 1: if I were Zach, I'd be barging into after twenty
- 9:16Speaker 1: minutes and be like, I'm sorry, absolutely not, you cannot
- 9:19Speaker 1: do this to my wife.
- 9:20Speaker 2: We're going yeah, And it's like it would have been
- 9:22Speaker 2: one thing if all of the red flags were genuinely
- 9:25Speaker 2: just like, we're concerned about how he treats Lydia. We're
- 9:28Speaker 2: concerned that he might be controlling or whatever. But like
- 9:32Speaker 2: you were saying all of that shit to cover up
- 9:34Speaker 2: the fact that you guys are just a bunch of homophobic,
- 9:37Speaker 2: Southern Baptist losers who are just like mad that this
- 9:42Speaker 2: metrosexual guy from Colorado is coming down to marry your sister.
- 9:46Speaker 2: And like, I know we've speculated about Zach's sexuality before.
- 9:51Speaker 2: It just kind of in jest what we did at
- 9:52Speaker 2: the begle that was, well, you agree to it and
- 9:55Speaker 2: go signed it. But it's like I get it, but
- 9:58Speaker 2: at the same time, you need to to cut it
- 10:00Speaker 2: out and like let Lydia make her own choices and
- 10:03Speaker 2: like maybe Zack's a freaking the sheets and he loves
- 10:06Speaker 2: Lydia and that's great and like just move on. I
- 10:09Speaker 2: don't know, I just I was frustrated by how they
- 10:12Speaker 2: framed it as like we're concerned about how he treats Lydia,
- 10:16Speaker 2: and then it actually comes out that it's like, oh,
- 10:18Speaker 2: you were just concerned because you think he's gay, right,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and you have like no actual proof that he's gay
- 10:22Speaker 2: or anything.
- 10:22Speaker 3: He's just different.
- 10:23Speaker 2: He's just different than you and not like the quintessential
- 10:27Speaker 2: like manly man that Ethan is supposed to be, peeling
- 10:31Speaker 2: off in his old man car like a fucking baby
- 10:33Speaker 2: and doing terrible push ups with terrible form, like shut up,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I just like I can't.
- 10:38Speaker 3: It was all it was all bad.
- 10:39Speaker 2: It made me so annoyed. But like Ethan is still
- 10:43Speaker 2: pissed off, Isaac is still pissed off. So like things
- 10:46Speaker 2: are tense, and then we go over to Mike and Veronica,
- 10:50Speaker 2: who are also getting ready for the wedding, Like Veronica's
- 10:53Speaker 2: curling Micah's hair, and you know, Mike is talking about
- 10:57Speaker 2: how he just wants her to be on her best behavior,
- 10:59Speaker 2: and she says that she will be, and then they
- 11:02Speaker 2: get in the truck like on the way to the farm,
- 11:05Speaker 2: and she's like straight up calling Tague in a slut.
- 11:08Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like fuck, I don't get it because
- 11:13Speaker 1: I just figure and this is my naivete, but I
- 11:15Speaker 1: just figure. Kids your age, kids in their twenties, they've
- 11:20Speaker 1: kind of come up in am I stupid? Like a
- 11:23Speaker 1: more open society, a more tolerance society, Like you should
- 11:29Speaker 1: know that it's not okay to slut shame. You should
- 11:33Speaker 1: know that it's not okay to like say things about
- 11:36Speaker 1: people who might be doing sex work. Like, even if
- 11:39Speaker 1: you have your opinions and a lot of people do, like,
- 11:41Speaker 1: you should know though, that you shouldn't.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Be saying this shit in front of a camera.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Like, I just don't understand what she's doing here, and
- 11:48Speaker 1: this just really speaks to her instability in terms of
- 11:52Speaker 1: her mental state. Like I have been saying the week after,
- 11:56Speaker 1: I've been diagnosing her inappropriately. I don't care, yea, what
- 11:59Speaker 1: do you You ain't telling me nothing, but like there
- 12:02Speaker 1: is something deeply wrong with her. And at the very
- 12:06Speaker 1: beginning of this season I was talking about this girl
- 12:08Speaker 1: has been bullied. Yep, this girl has some trauma in
- 12:12Speaker 1: her childhood.
- 12:12Speaker 3: And I think it's.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Weird that we haven't met her family, just like it
- 12:16Speaker 1: was weird that we didn't meet Olivia's family. I mean,
- 12:20Speaker 1: except for her sister and stuff like that, but like
- 12:22Speaker 1: her whole family. We only hear about the family from Olivia,
- 12:25Speaker 1: but we don't even hear about the family from Veronica.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 1: I just feel like she comes out of so much strange,
- 12:34Speaker 1: weird family structure that she would even think that it
- 12:38Speaker 1: was halfway okay to say something like that about another woman.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And Beatrice, tell me, what did Teagan do like literally
- 12:48Speaker 1: one time one time?
- 12:50Speaker 2: And it was fine, It was cordial and Tacon was nice.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Yes, Teacon seems shy.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, she's shy as being very nice and cordial
- 12:59Speaker 1: and polite, and Veronica has somehow twisted that into I
- 13:03Speaker 1: hate her. We can't sit by her. Why just because
- 13:06Speaker 1: you think she's doing sex work.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Because you saw like a weird AI generated article online
- 13:12Speaker 2: from like a rumor magazine that claimed that she hasn't
- 13:15Speaker 2: homely fans when she doesn't, and you're gonna continue to
- 13:20Speaker 2: tout that rumor and call her a slut also, Like,
- 13:24Speaker 2: it's just like crazy to me that she thinks like
- 13:27Speaker 2: she went on Instagram live after this episode to say
- 13:30Speaker 2: that this was edited poorly in her favor. When she's
- 13:32Speaker 2: literally calling Tiguan a slut after not even knowing this chick,
- 13:36Speaker 2: it's wild.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Did she address that, like, but out of your mouth
- 13:40Speaker 1: came the word slut.
- 13:41Speaker 3: No, so did she speak to that.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Okay, she's just saying it was all edited poorly for her,
- 13:46Speaker 2: that's all.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Well, let's do a little sidebar here because a few
- 13:50Speaker 1: days ago you sent me a video of Olivia talking
- 13:56Speaker 1: about yeah, yeah, yeah, Veronica, because we had actually speculated
- 14:01Speaker 1: a little bit, like are they really friends? Because I
- 14:05Speaker 1: think politically, at the very least, they are diametrically opposed.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I think one's right and one is left. And I
- 14:12Speaker 1: also was just getting the vibe that this was very
- 14:14Speaker 1: much produced by TLC, Like these facetimes were not authentic,
- 14:20Speaker 1: they were not spontaneous, And so you sent me a
- 14:23Speaker 1: video of Olivia saying.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Well, Olivia like went on TikTok and wanted to address
- 14:29Speaker 2: everything because people were asking her, like, are you friends
- 14:32Speaker 2: with Veronica because she seems to keep repping you, and
- 14:35Speaker 2: Olivia's like, look, I've only talked to Veronica a handful
- 14:38Speaker 2: of times. Like she reached out to me because she
- 14:40Speaker 2: needed like some advice and somebody to confide in, because
- 14:44Speaker 2: I'm the only other one that's like been involved in
- 14:46Speaker 2: this family and like got out of it, and you know,
- 14:49Speaker 2: I've had my own issues with the family, and so
- 14:51Speaker 2: she offered her like friendship in that way to like
- 14:54Speaker 2: be there for Veronica because she was having issues. And
- 14:56Speaker 2: then the way Olivia tells it, she quickly realized that
- 15:01Speaker 2: their experiences were different. Like some they had some similarities,
- 15:05Speaker 2: but then they were pretty different. And Olivia didn't want
- 15:07Speaker 2: to be involved with Veronica after like seeing her behavior
- 15:13Speaker 2: like on the show, and like before that, I guess
- 15:16Speaker 2: there was some shit that was going on, like in
- 15:18Speaker 2: the family that she had heard about, and she was like,
- 15:19Speaker 2: I don't want to be involved with somebody who's a bully. So,
- 15:21Speaker 2: like Olivia straight up called Veronica a bully, which is
- 15:25Speaker 2: based and she's like, I don't want to be involved
- 15:27Speaker 2: with that. And then she talked about like politics too, right, right,
- 15:29Speaker 2: don't want to be involved with somebody who doesn't align
- 15:32Speaker 2: with my politics and stuff like that. So she cleared
- 15:34Speaker 2: the air that her and Veronica are not friends whatsoever,
- 15:38Speaker 2: and she thinks that she's a big, old fucking bully.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad she spoke out on it because
- 15:43Speaker 1: we were all kind of wondering because one of these
- 15:46Speaker 1: things is not like the other, Like you guys do
- 15:48Speaker 1: not seem to be similar in any way other than
- 15:51Speaker 1: the thing you have in common, which is the plaths,
- 15:53Speaker 1: And so I just part of me after this episode
- 15:56Speaker 1: kind of just felt really bad for Verona because she's
- 16:00Speaker 1: clearly socially awkward, and I think one of her coping
- 16:04Speaker 1: mechanisms for that is by being Regina George mean girl,
- 16:09Speaker 1: or like I'm wearing this wonderful jacket or this is
- 16:11Speaker 1: my frozen gown and I'm just so awesome. But it's
- 16:15Speaker 1: just such a disoriented projection of who she wants to
- 16:20Speaker 1: be but doesn't know how to be. And I could
- 16:23Speaker 1: really see her floundering in that and like, oh, it
- 16:27Speaker 1: was so uncomfy. But I'm skipping ahead, So back to
- 16:31Speaker 1: the show.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we get to the farm, everyone starts arriving
- 16:36Speaker 2: for the wedding, and we start with like a little
- 16:37Speaker 2: first look scene with Lydia and Zach and that was
- 16:42Speaker 2: like here, sweet, I guess.
- 16:44Speaker 1: And Lydia looked beautiful. Lydia was Gore Disney princess. Yes,
- 16:49Speaker 1: absolutely stoning as always. However, if I hear Zach say
- 16:55Speaker 1: let's go one more time, I'm like gonna lose my shit.
- 17:01Speaker 2: I'm sorry. His reaction felt so forced to me, like
- 17:04Speaker 2: it didn't really feel genuine to me.
- 17:06Speaker 1: There's so many teeth, and the thing is there's a
- 17:09Speaker 1: lot of gums too, Like his whole mouth is there
- 17:11Speaker 1: a psychological indication when somebody smiles and shows their whole
- 17:17Speaker 1: gum's mouth and esophagus. I mean, is that an indication
- 17:20Speaker 1: of like I'm a sociopath or something like? I just
- 17:23Speaker 1: feel like, why am I seeing all of this? It's
- 17:26Speaker 1: crazy and like the entire time when he sees.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Her, it's just like and he's like squealing to like.
- 17:33Speaker 3: I'm like, stop it right now.
- 17:35Speaker 1: I can't take it. I can't and I'm like lyal
- 17:38Speaker 1: gee Lydia, you are everything serious, sweet, kind, gorgeous, intelligent.
- 17:45Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but I.
- 17:46Speaker 1: Mean you you have all this going for you, and
- 17:50Speaker 1: you pick Zach. Okay, but I don't know Zach, And
- 17:52Speaker 1: I'm being rude and that's fair, and I'll shut up.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Don't want to yuck your yum, I guess, but your
- 17:57Speaker 2: gums yuck you Yeike.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Sorry, I can't take it.
- 18:04Speaker 2: But I mean, hey, I guess his eyes popped in
- 18:07Speaker 2: that blue suit that he really wanted to wear.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I couldn't see his size.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I could only see his incisors.
- 18:12Speaker 2: Bitch, Jesus, it was a lot.
- 18:15Speaker 3: It was.
- 18:15Speaker 2: It was a lot it was. And then when we
- 18:18Speaker 2: get to like seeing where everybody's gonna sit like the
- 18:21Speaker 2: seating chart and everything. Veronica is immediately mad because she's
- 18:24Speaker 2: gonna have to sit next to Teague and the slut
- 18:27Speaker 2: and Ethan, and I'm just like, I can't. This is
- 18:30Speaker 2: not your wedding, Like just sit by whoever and just
- 18:33Speaker 2: be cordial. But no, you gotta be the ice queen
- 18:36Speaker 2: over here. I thought, you know, Elsa said let it
- 18:39Speaker 2: go from frozen, like you're wearing your frozen dress, Like,
- 18:42Speaker 2: just let it go. It's what you said you were
- 18:43Speaker 2: gonna do. But you can't sit next to the slut. No. Again,
- 18:47Speaker 2: it's just ridiculous to me.
- 18:48Speaker 3: It's terrible.
- 18:50Speaker 2: And then we have Ethan arriving in his old man
- 18:53Speaker 2: car because he's gonna escort like Lydia and Barry to
- 18:59Speaker 2: the isle or whatever in his old man car. And
- 19:01Speaker 2: Ethan talks about because like last episode we left off
- 19:04Speaker 2: on like are they gonna object And Ethan of course
- 19:07Speaker 2: is like, well, if there was gonna be any objections,
- 19:10Speaker 2: it would only be me and Isaac that would do that,
- 19:12Speaker 2: and we're probably not going to and they're probably gonna
- 19:15Speaker 2: skip that part, and they eventually do. They don't even
- 19:18Speaker 2: get to that in the ceremony. Kim There's like a
- 19:21Speaker 2: little scene where Kim tells Ethan like try to make
- 19:24Speaker 2: the day all about Lydia.
- 19:27Speaker 1: I would curbstop my kid, they were acting out, Like
- 19:31Speaker 1: Ethan and Isaac were acting out.
- 19:33Speaker 3: I would be like, what the hell do you think
- 19:37Speaker 3: you're doing? Just keep it to yourself. Just keep it
- 19:38Speaker 3: to yourself for one day.
- 19:40Speaker 1: We can have a meeting afterwards, we can have a
- 19:41Speaker 1: bottle of way, but shut the fuck up, Like, please,
- 19:43Speaker 1: it is not your place. It's so annoying, you weirdo.
- 19:47Speaker 2: And it's like, Ethan, you were the eldest brother and
- 19:49Speaker 2: you're like acting so immature.
- 19:52Speaker 3: And I was trying to.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Figure out why it was that he felt the need
- 19:59Speaker 1: to act that way. Yeah, Like, is it because of
- 20:02Speaker 1: the absence of a father, Barry like stepping in to
- 20:06Speaker 1: have the conversation with Lydia and let her know that
- 20:08Speaker 1: this is like red flags vill and you should be careful.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Is it because he wants to prove his traditional values,
- 20:15Speaker 1: his masculinity? Like why are you doing all of this?
- 20:18Speaker 1: It is completely unnecessary. You have a whole ass woman
- 20:21Speaker 1: that you say that you love.
- 20:22Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you care?
- 20:24Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's probably a bit of
- 20:25Speaker 2: that because Barry has been so like supportive, probably to
- 20:30Speaker 2: a fault because he just isn't asking any hard questions,
- 20:32Speaker 2: but he just wants to be there for Lydia and
- 20:35Speaker 2: does want to be the cool dad. So like maybe
- 20:37Speaker 2: it's that, but also Ethan, it's not your fucking place. Yeah,
- 20:40Speaker 2: Like you don't have to like the guy, that's fine,
- 20:42Speaker 2: but like you can also be supportive because Lydia is
- 20:46Speaker 2: very obviously so excited to marry this guy and his gums.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Like she's super excited, So just deal with it, Grin
- 20:54Speaker 2: and Barrett support.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Her, be positive. I mean, as an aside, when my
- 21:00Speaker 1: daughter brought you home, I was like, who is this?
- 21:04Speaker 1: And I fell in love with you immediately, and we
- 21:07Speaker 1: had things in common and you were really respectful and
- 21:10Speaker 1: kind and intelligent. I liked you right away. But the
- 21:14Speaker 1: fact of the matter is is that y'all got married
- 21:16Speaker 1: very quickly. We did, yeah, And it was after like
- 21:18Speaker 1: some drama between my daughter and myself and like things
- 21:21Speaker 1: were sort of in flux. But the moment I heard
- 21:25Speaker 1: that my daughter wanted to marry you, I was like,
- 21:28Speaker 1: what can I do and how can I support? And
- 21:32Speaker 1: it ended up being that I officiated your wedding, and honestly,
- 21:37Speaker 1: at the time, I would have probably said, maybe wait
- 21:39Speaker 1: a little bit, like spend a full four seasons with
- 21:43Speaker 1: each other and live together for that long and kind
- 21:46Speaker 1: of get to know each other. That would have been
- 21:48Speaker 1: my preference. But my daughter was an adult. You're an adult,
- 21:51Speaker 1: and I'm just going to show up. I'm going to
- 21:53Speaker 1: do the very best that I can, and I'm just
- 21:55Speaker 1: gonna let you know that I love you. Yeah, And
- 21:57Speaker 1: that is what I thought, because I just wanted to
- 21:59Speaker 1: be that for you, and I really wish that Ethan
- 22:03Speaker 1: and Isaac could have done that for Lydia. Just put
- 22:06Speaker 1: your shit aside and all the things that you think
- 22:08Speaker 1: you should do or she should do because these are
- 22:11Speaker 1: your standards, and just support her well.
- 22:13Speaker 2: And even Kim because apparently Lydia went on Instagram after
- 22:17Speaker 2: this week's episode, well actually after last week's episode, she
- 22:20Speaker 2: went on Instagram, and she was talking about how disappointed
- 22:23Speaker 2: she was to have seen that and seen what people
- 22:27Speaker 2: were saying behind her back, because apparently, according to Lydia,
- 22:30Speaker 2: like she was unaware of like everyone's feelings about Zach
- 22:35Speaker 2: and the red flags that they were seeing about him,
- 22:37Speaker 2: and she was unaware of like their lack of support
- 22:41Speaker 2: for her, and so she felt really saddened to see
- 22:44Speaker 2: her family saying all that shit about her on TV
- 22:47Speaker 2: and then not telling her to her face. And it's
- 22:49Speaker 2: like that's really unfortunate, because again, like if they had
- 22:53Speaker 2: talked to her about all this stuff and then she
- 22:55Speaker 2: had seen like the footage back, like it would have
- 22:57Speaker 2: been one thing, but like to hear from Lydia that
- 22:59Speaker 2: like she was unaware of how no one in the
- 23:02Speaker 2: family was really supportive of her marriage, and no one
- 23:05Speaker 2: was supportive of Zach because he's gay or whatever, or
- 23:09Speaker 2: because of all these red flags that they're seeing from him.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Like that's really shitty for her to have found out
- 23:15Speaker 2: secondhand a year later when she's watching the footage back,
- 23:19Speaker 2: Like that's really lame. And like speaking of like my
- 23:21Speaker 2: marriage to your daughter, Like I didn't have any of
- 23:24Speaker 2: my family involved because I knew that it was gonna
- 23:28Speaker 2: be weird, and I knew that they were gonna be
- 23:29Speaker 2: talking some mad shit because they totally did after I
- 23:32Speaker 2: got married anyway, And like I knew that if they
- 23:35Speaker 2: were gonna be involved, like it was gonna be tense
- 23:37Speaker 2: and it was gonna be awkward, and like I didn't
- 23:38Speaker 2: want to have any of that energy around, and like
- 23:41Speaker 2: I felt bad by not telling them and like not
- 23:44Speaker 2: involving them. But like watching this back with like Lydia
- 23:47Speaker 2: and her family, I'm like, damn, like you should have
- 23:49Speaker 2: done the same thing.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Girl.
- 23:50Speaker 2: You shouldn't have had anybody involved except for fucking Barry
- 23:52Speaker 2: and like Mariah and Amber, because everyone else was not
- 23:56Speaker 2: supportive and talking shit behind your back.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Like even Mariah Well was kind of shitting on it.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Was she she was shitting on marriage and she was saying, oh, yeah,
- 24:04Speaker 1: I believe in it, and I'm just here because it's
- 24:07Speaker 1: my sister.
- 24:08Speaker 2: But at least she showed up. She did, yes, she
- 24:10Speaker 2: wasn't talking shit about Zach and like talking shit about
- 24:13Speaker 2: like red Crags and everything that she saw. So it's
- 24:16Speaker 2: really unfortunate. And then when everyone sits down for the
- 24:19Speaker 2: wedding and Ethan drives Lydia and Barry to walk down
- 24:23Speaker 2: the aisle, which I thought was kind of cute, but like, also,
- 24:27Speaker 2: I don't know Ethan with your old cars. You know,
- 24:30Speaker 2: She's walking down the aisle and she's crying and Zach
- 24:33Speaker 2: is showing all of his teeth.
- 24:35Speaker 1: Girl, I'm gonna stop. I'm not even gonna start, but
- 24:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop and not start.
- 24:41Speaker 2: It's like I can't, man. But she walks up to
- 24:44Speaker 2: the altar and she's super overcome with emotion, and Zach
- 24:49Speaker 2: is squealing, and they have their little ceremony, and then
- 24:53Speaker 2: before they kissed, they decide to sing a worship song
- 24:56Speaker 2: in front of everybody.
- 24:58Speaker 3: Can we just pause?
- 25:00Speaker 1: Can everybody just enter into the circle so we can
- 25:04Speaker 1: discuss how we feel about that? Yeah, I'd love to talk,
- 25:07Speaker 1: because I don't really know. I mean, and I'm older
- 25:09Speaker 1: than most abuse, Like, I've been to a lot of weddings.
- 25:12Speaker 1: I've never seen that, yeah, you know, I mean, I've
- 25:16Speaker 1: seen priests sort of chant over folks, but I've never
- 25:20Speaker 1: like seen a couple stop and then sing a worship
- 25:23Speaker 1: song or any song except on TikTok. Maybe, Like you've
- 25:26Speaker 1: got a couple of people on TikTok and they seem
- 25:29Speaker 1: to be main characters all the time, and that makes
- 25:32Speaker 1: me wonder, actually, is Zach a main.
- 25:34Speaker 3: Character all the time?
- 25:35Speaker 2: Oh? I think so? Well.
- 25:37Speaker 1: I don't think Lydia is necessarily I think she's sprung
- 25:40Speaker 1: for Zach. I think she's still into it and she
- 25:42Speaker 1: loves her bed, but I kind of feel like Zach
- 25:46Speaker 1: is a main character.
- 25:47Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. I mean with if we're to
- 25:50Speaker 2: believe the story from Kim about the wedding colors and
- 25:52Speaker 2: stuff and like how he wanted blue because he looks
- 25:55Speaker 2: so good and blue, like, and then you see the
- 25:57Speaker 2: entire wedding party and like all of the theme and
- 25:59Speaker 2: every thing is all blue because Zach allegedly wanted that.
- 26:03Speaker 3: It did look pretty though it was pretty.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Yeah. Also Lydia did address that, I think on Instagram,
- 26:09Speaker 2: where she was like that claim is so false, like yeah,
- 26:12Speaker 2: I wanted forest green, but like also Zack suggested blue
- 26:16Speaker 2: and I thought that was great. So she kind of
- 26:18Speaker 2: skirted around it a little bit. I think that there
- 26:21Speaker 2: was some truth to that story from Kim, But anyway,
- 26:24Speaker 2: I digress the whole like worship song, I'm like, I
- 26:28Speaker 2: think on Lydia's end, she probably thought it was like
- 26:31Speaker 2: really sweet and like genuine and like including Jesus.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a triangle. It's not just Zach and Lydia.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Jesus is third two.
- 26:40Speaker 2: Yeah, but like to have nobody else sing and like
- 26:44Speaker 2: no backgrounds?
- 26:44Speaker 1: Does anybody else know what song you were going to sing, right,
- 26:48Speaker 1: there's not a harpist. There's not like some sort of
- 26:50Speaker 1: a band. You're just gonna start warbling out like some
- 26:54Speaker 1: sort of broken winged bird, some song about Jesus that
- 26:58Speaker 1: nobody can hear because you.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Don't project your voice. I don't get it.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I don't get it.
- 27:04Speaker 2: I literally don't get it. And like everyone's awkward, like
- 27:07Speaker 2: in the audience and everything, like Isaac is like I
- 27:09Speaker 2: didn't want to.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Be because it's because it's super.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Fucking Gridge, and Ethan's like staring at the ground the
- 27:14Speaker 2: entire time. And then it pans over to Kim and
- 27:17Speaker 2: did you see she was sitting next to Ken?
- 27:20Speaker 1: Huh?
- 27:20Speaker 2: Ken fucking Palmer was there sidebar?
- 27:25Speaker 3: Now that man is a wreck.
- 27:26Speaker 1: You can't tell me he's not drinking an entire bottle
- 27:29Speaker 1: of whiskey every single night as he scrolls Facebook and
- 27:32Speaker 1: looks for racist memes. And then there was Kim like,
- 27:38Speaker 1: how do I say this? Let's go uncensored and back
- 27:41Speaker 1: from uncensored. By the way, if you want to hear
- 27:44Speaker 1: all the uncensored bits, you have to be a subscriber
- 27:46Speaker 1: on Patreon because we can't say the simple company. I'm sorry,
- 27:50Speaker 1: but yeah, Can looked broke down, Can looked drugged, Can
- 27:55Speaker 1: looked rough.
- 27:56Speaker 2: I was surprised to see him there because I thought
- 27:58Speaker 2: they were friends and every thing. So I'm like, okay,
- 28:01Speaker 2: so he's invited to the wedding, then okay, I wish
- 28:04Speaker 2: we got to see more that, like I would would
- 28:06Speaker 2: have loved to see, like Barry talk about the fact
- 28:09Speaker 2: that he saw Ken's big old alcoholic gas there. I
- 28:11Speaker 2: don't know, really great, but I digress. Then after the
- 28:15Speaker 2: worship song that lasted seventeen hours felt so long.
- 28:19Speaker 1: I couldn't look I had to look away, I had
- 28:22Speaker 1: to scroll with it.
- 28:23Speaker 3: I was like, I have to be anywhere else but here.
- 28:26Speaker 2: I checked out man, and I love cringe stuff, like
- 28:29Speaker 2: I'm on the cringe pages and I love watching gringe reels.
- 28:31Speaker 2: It's my favorite pastime. But like that was like too much.
- 28:35Speaker 3: I disassociated.
- 28:37Speaker 1: I went into the astrol, the kiddies and the puppies,
- 28:41Speaker 1: the math equations. I was like, I don't want to
- 28:42Speaker 1: be here right now, on this planet with anybody at all.
- 28:46Speaker 2: And then we have the first kiss, which is like
- 28:48Speaker 2: the long anticipated moment, and Zach dips Lydia down and
- 28:54Speaker 2: she totally like grabs him and just kisses him, and
- 28:57Speaker 2: then we have like a little interstitial with them where
- 29:00Speaker 2: they talk about it because the producers like, so, how
- 29:02Speaker 2: is that first kiss? Though? And this was awkward to me.
- 29:05Speaker 2: This was awkward because Zach is talking about it like
- 29:09Speaker 2: he was off put by Lydia like immediately wanting to
- 29:13Speaker 2: kiss him, which I'm just like, shouldn't you be excited
- 29:16Speaker 2: that this absolutely beautiful girl who was totally out of
- 29:21Speaker 2: your leak, out of every single leake, wanted to kiss you?
- 29:25Speaker 2: And now you're gonna like kind of criticize it a
- 29:27Speaker 2: little bit?
- 29:28Speaker 3: Why are you so eager to kiss me?
- 29:30Speaker 2: Like? Why?
- 29:31Speaker 1: And also I rewound it. Yeah, I watched it and
- 29:35Speaker 1: he's dipping her and he's the one leaning into the
- 29:38Speaker 1: kiss to initiate the kiss, so yes, she has to
- 29:41Speaker 1: like lift up to kiss him, but I'm like, she
- 29:43Speaker 1: didn't go super hard into that kiss. In fact, it
- 29:47Speaker 1: seemed like they were both just kissing, So I thought
- 29:50Speaker 1: it was strange that he needed to frame it that way,
- 29:53Speaker 1: like she was so eager, Like I couldn't even get
- 29:55Speaker 1: my lips puckered and she was already kissing me. And
- 29:58Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so are you shaming her for her
- 30:00Speaker 1: like feminine want of you, Like isn't that supposed to
- 30:04Speaker 1: be the way that it is? And like shouldn't you
- 30:06Speaker 1: be flattered by that?
- 30:07Speaker 3: That was strange to me.
- 30:09Speaker 2: That was strange to me too.
- 30:10Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you say as her man like yeah,
- 30:13Speaker 1: I wanted to kiss her so bad, so I didn't
- 30:15Speaker 1: wait to get to those juicy lips. But no, it's
- 30:17Speaker 1: about how she was rushing, how you weren't prepared, like
- 30:19Speaker 1: she wanted.
- 30:20Speaker 3: You so bad.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Which is the blue suit all over again, because it
- 30:23Speaker 1: makes your eyes pop, which is the whole main character
- 30:26Speaker 1: thing that we're worried about.
- 30:27Speaker 2: And that's the thing. And like when he's recounting it
- 30:29Speaker 2: to the producers, like Lydia's trying to laugh about it
- 30:32Speaker 2: and Zach is being kind of awkward in his energy
- 30:35Speaker 2: and she's just like, well, I was just like really excited.
- 30:37Speaker 2: And then he's like, yeah, it was funny, and she's
- 30:40Speaker 2: like yeah, it was funny, and it was just like
- 30:42Speaker 2: this awkward moment and like this is the thing where
- 30:45Speaker 2: like I wish we could have more of the plaths
- 30:47Speaker 2: articulate like this. These are like the weird kind of
- 30:51Speaker 2: red flaggy moments of Zach not the fact that you
- 30:55Speaker 2: think he's a queer whatever, but like it's these moments
- 30:58Speaker 2: where he's kind of like putting Lydia down for wanting
- 31:02Speaker 2: to make out with him. I don't know, I just
- 31:04Speaker 2: thought that was odd to me.
- 31:05Speaker 3: But yeah, that was an actual red flag.
- 31:08Speaker 2: And then Barry is like I was chucking to see
- 31:11Speaker 2: if there was tongue, and I'm like.
- 31:12Speaker 3: Barry, stop it.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Stop makes so weird.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Hear again, he does not have an idea about how
- 31:17Speaker 1: people perceive him as being kind of pred.
- 31:20Speaker 2: You're being creepy, You're being a little weird.
- 31:22Speaker 3: Stop it.
- 31:22Speaker 2: I know you don't know how to be a human
- 31:24Speaker 2: at all because you're a robot and stuff like humans
- 31:27Speaker 2: don't talk like that, especially father humans with their daughter
- 31:30Speaker 2: human be three po god, so weird. And then we
- 31:34Speaker 2: have photos and everything with the family, and of course
- 31:38Speaker 2: Veronica the Ice Queen doesn't want to be involved in
- 31:40Speaker 2: any of the photos, and I'm like, good.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Well she wasn't invited into any of the photos. Yeah,
- 31:45Speaker 1: and they actually ask her like, well, did you want
- 31:48Speaker 1: to be and she's like, well, everybody wants to be included,
- 31:51Speaker 1: but obviously I'm not. And that's because I'm normal. Yeah,
- 31:55Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, is that why. I don't think that's why, Veronica.
- 31:58Speaker 1: I mean, I do think it's sad that you're not
- 31:59Speaker 1: being included, but I also don't see teag and being included.
- 32:02Speaker 1: I don't see Kaylen being included. But like, the reason
- 32:05Speaker 1: you're not being included is because you're.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Absolutely hostile towards this family, so why would they want
- 32:09Speaker 3: you around?
- 32:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like you're a wedding guest. Like I
- 32:13Speaker 2: went to a wedding in May, and like we weren't
- 32:15Speaker 2: involved in any of the photos. Thank god I didn't
- 32:17Speaker 2: want to be. But it's like we were a wedding guests.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Like you're not the main character. I'm sorry that nobody
- 32:22Speaker 2: wants to take your photo. You ice queen bitch. And
- 32:26Speaker 2: then we have Kaylin and Teacan kind of talking off
- 32:28Speaker 2: to the side, and they're like talking about how they
- 32:31Speaker 2: want to go approach Veronica because she looks all lonesome
- 32:35Speaker 2: by herself, and I think Kaylan is the one that
- 32:38Speaker 2: tries to initiate it because Teagan knows that Veronica doesn't
- 32:42Speaker 2: like her slutty ass apparently, and Kaylan walks over and
- 32:46Speaker 2: Veronica immediately blows her off, doesn't even acknowledge her total
- 32:51Speaker 2: like mean girl energy, and even Veronica acknowledges that. She's like,
- 32:55Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be Regina George and I'm like, okay,
- 32:59Speaker 2: that's not cute.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Though well, actually she says, I don't want to be
- 33:02Speaker 1: part of the mean girl's clique, even though I give
- 33:05Speaker 1: Regina George energy, I just don't want.
- 33:07Speaker 2: To be a part of it, don't.
- 33:09Speaker 1: But like, that's not actually what was happening. This nice
- 33:11Speaker 1: young Southern girl was coming up to you because she
- 33:14Speaker 1: felt bad that you were isolated and alone, and she
- 33:18Speaker 1: wanted to include you and probably invite you to sit
- 33:21Speaker 1: with them or whatever. But you wouldn't allow that to
- 33:24Speaker 1: happen because you had to reject her, ye before they
- 33:27Speaker 1: actually reject you. And it's all just a projection of
- 33:30Speaker 1: your insecurity and about how you feel about yourself. Plus
- 33:33Speaker 1: you know you're not dumb. You know that you've been
- 33:36Speaker 1: acting like an absolute bansheet, and so of course everybody's
- 33:40Speaker 1: feeling some kind of way, and you don't have the
- 33:42Speaker 1: emotional capacity to actually address that, take ownership for that
- 33:46Speaker 1: and resolve that. So it's easier to go and feed
- 33:49Speaker 1: the horses.
- 33:50Speaker 2: I guess, I guess, and just wait for somebody else
- 33:52Speaker 2: to come up to you. But before we get to that,
- 33:55Speaker 2: then we have this fucking montage of Lydia and Zach
- 33:59Speaker 2: making it, all of these photos, and I'm like, please, yeah,
- 34:03Speaker 2: stop it. I don't want to say this.
- 34:05Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm glad that they gave
- 34:08Speaker 1: Lydia that time versus spending so much time on Veronica Yeah,
- 34:13Speaker 1: and her vitriol and her negativity, because Lydia's gonna look
- 34:16Speaker 1: back at this and she's gonna want to remember these
- 34:19Speaker 1: special parts and not just Veronica stomping around the pasture
- 34:23Speaker 1: calling her family hillbillies.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god. I couldn't deal with that. It's
- 34:28Speaker 2: so ridiculous. And like, Lydia did post her actual like
- 34:32Speaker 2: wedding video just recently on Instagram because she wanted everybody
- 34:35Speaker 2: to see like her wedding for what she saw it as,
- 34:38Speaker 2: which is this beautiful day and she's marry in the
- 34:40Speaker 2: love of her life and all of his teeth and
- 34:43Speaker 2: she's very happy with him and he's very happy with her.
- 34:46Speaker 2: So she did post like a beautiful wedding video. If
- 34:48Speaker 2: you guys want to go see it instead of Veronica's
- 34:50Speaker 2: bitch ass. But then we go over and spend a
- 34:52Speaker 2: bunch of time with Veronica sitting on the fence feeding
- 34:56Speaker 2: the horses, all by her lonesome, and Mariah is like,
- 35:00Speaker 2: I'm going to go talk to her because I feel
- 35:02Speaker 2: really bad that she's by herself, and like, I don't
- 35:04Speaker 2: know if it's because of me, So I'm going to
- 35:05Speaker 2: go try talking to her. And Micah sees this, and
- 35:08Speaker 2: being the protective older brother, he's like, I gotta save
- 35:11Speaker 2: my sister from my bitch ass girlfriend, so he runs
- 35:14Speaker 2: over there with her, and this is where we have
- 35:17Speaker 2: this moment with Mariah and Veronica, and it's really just
- 35:21Speaker 2: Veronica like kind of shitting all over Mariah and I'm
- 35:26Speaker 2: just like limp at this.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Point, and so is Mariah. Mariah's just standing there allowing
- 35:32Speaker 1: Veronica to say all the things that Veronica needs to
- 35:36Speaker 1: say to validate her feelings, her big feelings, and it's
- 35:41Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. And I just kept thinking personally about Micah
- 35:45Speaker 1: because my husband would never let me call somebody in
- 35:52Speaker 1: his family a slut. I mean, if I did, he
- 35:54Speaker 1: would want to get to the bottom of that. Yet
- 35:56Speaker 1: we'd be having big conversations about like why would you
- 36:00Speaker 1: feel that way? And much less why would you say that?
- 36:02Speaker 1: And then when he got to the bottom of that
- 36:04Speaker 1: with me, he would not let me come to a wedding.
- 36:07Speaker 1: He would not let me talk to the sister in
- 36:08Speaker 1: question that I had a problem with. He would not
- 36:11Speaker 1: let me visit my bullshit upon other people. He'd be like,
- 36:15Speaker 1: let me take this. You stay home, you have fun
- 36:17Speaker 1: with the dogs. I'm gonna go hang out with my family.
- 36:19Speaker 1: So it just really weird to me that Micah would
- 36:22Speaker 1: allow Veronica to come to Lydia's whole wedding where the
- 36:26Speaker 1: family is gathering to celebrate her. It's this beautiful, joyful moment,
- 36:31Speaker 1: and you're bringing this snake of a person into the
- 36:35Speaker 1: space to talk mad shit about people that you really love.
- 36:39Speaker 1: And maybe that speaks to the degradation of Micah's spirit,
- 36:45Speaker 1: because he's just been abused so profoundly up until this
- 36:49Speaker 1: point that he can't see what he needs to be
- 36:52Speaker 1: doing and what the right thing is to do.
- 36:54Speaker 2: But well, and she also like she wasn't gonna let
- 36:59Speaker 2: him come, allegedly like if he went alone, So it's
- 37:03Speaker 2: like she probably gave him an ultimatum like either I
- 37:07Speaker 2: go to the wedding and I'll try to be on
- 37:08Speaker 2: my best behavior, which is not really that great, or
- 37:12Speaker 2: you can't go because I'm not gonna let you go
- 37:14Speaker 2: by yourself. So it's like for Micah, he's kind of
- 37:17Speaker 2: forced into this position of like bringing this girl over
- 37:22Speaker 2: knowing full will that like she's going to cause a
- 37:24Speaker 2: lot of tension between other mens.
- 37:26Speaker 1: I wouldn't dumped her, dude, but I would if I
- 37:29Speaker 1: was him, I would have dumped her a long time ago.
- 37:32Speaker 3: But you can see that's probably why he hasn't.
- 37:35Speaker 1: It's because of the degradation of his spirit, and also
- 37:38Speaker 1: he has an an entire life with her, Like his
- 37:42Speaker 1: home is there. He's put a lot of sweat equity
- 37:45Speaker 1: into that home. He's like fixed the plumbing, he's put
- 37:48Speaker 1: up fences, like he has a lot invested in what
- 37:51Speaker 1: they got going on. And so to walk away from
- 37:53Speaker 1: Veronica isn't just about saying like deuces, bitch, It's like, Okay,
- 37:57Speaker 1: I lose absolutely everything. Yeah, he's in a he's in
- 38:00Speaker 1: a tough spot, but like, oh my god, do the
- 38:02Speaker 1: right thing, Mike, I.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Know, seriously, And we start to see that like near
- 38:07Speaker 2: the end, because after this whole bullshit with Mariah and Veronica,
- 38:11Speaker 2: like Mariah's coming over there with like good intentions, and
- 38:14Speaker 2: she's like really trying to hear Veronica out. And Mariah
- 38:17Speaker 2: even says, like in her talking head, like I'm really
- 38:19Speaker 2: just giving Veronica the space to like tell me how
- 38:21Speaker 2: she feels, and like I'm just gonna own it and
- 38:23Speaker 2: like apologize and just like move on and let go.
- 38:27Speaker 2: But like Mariah doesn't have any intentions of like rekindling
- 38:30Speaker 2: this friendship with Veronica, because Mariah, she says it very
- 38:33Speaker 2: kindly here, but like she knows that Veronica's a stink
- 38:36Speaker 2: ass bitch and she's toxic and she doesn't want to
- 38:39Speaker 2: have somebody like that in her life, and so she's
- 38:42Speaker 2: just trying to like tie up the loose ends and
- 38:45Speaker 2: she hears Veronica out on her bullshit, and then Mariah
- 38:48Speaker 2: tries to be like, Okay, well, I'm really sorry, and like,
- 38:51Speaker 2: you know, I really want you to be included in
- 38:52Speaker 2: the family, and I want you to be included in
- 38:54Speaker 2: the festivities, so like please, you know, come out and
- 38:57Speaker 2: hang out with us, like we don't want you to
- 38:58Speaker 2: feel unwelcomed. Like I'm really trying to make you feel
- 39:01Speaker 2: comfortable here, and Bronica's like, okay, whatever, baby, baby baby.
- 39:05Speaker 1: And in this moment, I saw in Mariah good home training, yes,
- 39:11Speaker 1: meaning coming from a family that has good values, and
- 39:15Speaker 1: that might make a lot of you mad, but like,
- 39:18Speaker 1: Kim and Barry must have done something good with these
- 39:22Speaker 1: kids to have Mariah be so gracious and so self sacrificing,
- 39:27Speaker 1: like not defensive, not needing to litigate the arguments, but
- 39:30Speaker 1: like just being like, well, we really want you here,
- 39:32Speaker 1: we really love you.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Like that's a good person.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Yes, And she said a lot wrong, and obviously she's
- 39:38Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes, but I thought Mariah handled
- 39:40Speaker 1: herself so well and with so much dignity, And I'm like, Okay, Barry, Okay, Kim,
- 39:46Speaker 1: that's a good kid. Lydia's a good kid. And to
- 39:49Speaker 1: Mike's a good kid. And the littles are good. Like
- 39:52Speaker 1: they've done something right yep with their children.
- 39:54Speaker 2: I agree.
- 39:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:56Speaker 2: And then like we have before, like Mariah leaves Veronica
- 40:00Speaker 2: of Veronica says something like, well, you know, I don't
- 40:03Speaker 2: really feel welcome in the entire family. It's not just
- 40:05Speaker 2: because of you, but it's because of everybody. Else, and
- 40:08Speaker 2: then cue the production totally coming out with a montage
- 40:14Speaker 2: of like, how welcoming Literally everyone in the wedding party
- 40:18Speaker 2: has been to Veronica when she arrives, Like the whole
- 40:21Speaker 2: Plath family came and said hi to her and gave
- 40:23Speaker 2: her hugs and said that they were so glad to
- 40:25Speaker 2: see her, and like all these other people that came
- 40:27Speaker 2: that were guests were like, oh my gosh, so nice
- 40:29Speaker 2: to meet you. Blah blah blah. So everyone has been
- 40:32Speaker 2: welcoming to Veronica. Like it just shows Veronica has been
- 40:36Speaker 2: and will always be the fucking problem here. And then
- 40:40Speaker 2: the last scene of this whole episode is where shit
- 40:44Speaker 2: starts to pop off, where we have Kaylin taking photos
- 40:49Speaker 2: of Isaac and Micah and they're like out in the
- 40:52Speaker 2: forest somewhere or whatever, and she's taking brotherly photos and
- 40:56Speaker 2: they're having like kind of a sweet moment. And as
- 40:58Speaker 2: they're walking back to the farm to join the rest
- 41:02Speaker 2: of the family, Veronica apparently sees Micah walking next to
- 41:07Speaker 2: Kaylin and thinks that Caylen is Teagan, and Veronica says
- 41:13Speaker 2: something like like, why are you with that slut or something,
- 41:17Speaker 2: and Caylin and Isaac hear this and Micah's trying to
- 41:22Speaker 2: calm Veronica down, like why the fuck would you say that?
- 41:26Speaker 2: I'm literally walking with my brother's girlfriend, Like you need
- 41:29Speaker 2: to chill out. Isaac and Caylin get super fucking mad.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Caylin feels very disrespected, as she should, and Isaac feels
- 41:38Speaker 2: very disrespected because how dare you slut shame my woman?
- 41:41Speaker 2: Like what the fuck? And Micah, why are you letting
- 41:44Speaker 2: your woman treat my woman like that? This is ridiculous,
- 41:47Speaker 2: And this is kind of where we leave off, but
- 41:49Speaker 2: this definitely is the reason why Isaac punches the fuck
- 41:54Speaker 2: out of Micah. Probably in the next episode. I don't
- 41:57Speaker 2: know if we're gonna see the fight. Probably not.
- 41:59Speaker 1: I doubt we're gonna see that fight. We're going to
- 42:00Speaker 1: just have the aftermath of the fight. And I think
- 42:06Speaker 1: that Veronica has said, like for example, in her life,
- 42:09Speaker 1: that it actually didn't go down that way, and that
- 42:13Speaker 1: the editors are producing it to look like she said
- 42:17Speaker 1: that and she never actually said that whatever, But we
- 42:19Speaker 1: can't believe her because we've actually seen and heard her
- 42:22Speaker 1: say that on camera. So it's perfectly believable that she
- 42:26Speaker 1: would have said that about Kaylin. Yeah, Kaylin and I
- 42:30Speaker 1: also think she probably meant it directed toward Kaylin.
- 42:34Speaker 2: She probably did.
- 42:34Speaker 1: I don't think she even meant it toward Tiakan because
- 42:37Speaker 1: we saw how she treated Kaylin and Caylin approached her
- 42:40Speaker 1: at the wedding. She was absolutely a bitch yep. So,
- 42:43Speaker 1: like Veronica, you caused this entire thing, And it's just
- 42:48Speaker 1: so strange to me because you were up on Reddit
- 42:51Speaker 1: you were talking about how they tried to set fire
- 42:54Speaker 1: to Zach because there are a bunch of homophobes and
- 42:56Speaker 1: they are homophobic. Yeah, we like you were also there
- 42:59Speaker 1: trying to set things on fire and causing so much trouble.
- 43:02Speaker 1: And then now here you are at this wedding calling
- 43:04Speaker 1: these innocent, kind of sweet girls you would like to
- 43:08Speaker 1: be friends. You you're calling them sluts, and you're trying
- 43:11Speaker 1: to deny that that is what instigated this fight between
- 43:14Speaker 1: these two brothers.
- 43:15Speaker 3: It absolutely is.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Yep, We're gonna find out that it is, and I
- 43:18Speaker 1: believe that that's what happened.
- 43:20Speaker 2: She tried to like blame Micah for the whole thing,
- 43:23Speaker 2: like when she was on Reddit at the very beginning
- 43:25Speaker 2: of the season, like she was trying to blame like
- 43:28Speaker 2: Micah or whatever like he abandoned her at the wedding,
- 43:31Speaker 2: and then he got in a fight with Isaac, and
- 43:33Speaker 2: like she tried to like blow this whole thing out
- 43:35Speaker 2: of proportion when it was Isaac trying to defend his
- 43:39Speaker 2: woman because you were calling her nasty names for literally
- 43:44Speaker 2: no reason. And we get into the preview and we
- 43:47Speaker 2: have Micah saying something like I've tried my absolute hardest
- 43:51Speaker 2: to make Veronica feel welcomed, and she's not welcome. She
- 43:55Speaker 2: doesn't feel welcomed at all because nothing is good enough
- 43:57Speaker 2: for her. And it's like the end of the wedding,
- 44:00Speaker 2: and we have the whole family and everybody in the
- 44:02Speaker 2: wedding party like lighting sparklers or something and like doing
- 44:05Speaker 2: a big celebration at night, and Veronica again is sitting
- 44:09Speaker 2: this one out, and this is where she calls them
- 44:11Speaker 2: all hillbilly's and doesn't want to be involved in hillbilly activity,
- 44:14Speaker 2: which again it's just like it's so mean, so unnecessary,
- 44:18Speaker 2: so mean, it's so gross. And then we have the
- 44:21Speaker 2: next day after the wedding where Veronica says she hadn't
- 44:24Speaker 2: heard from Michael all night or something, so I'm like, okay,
- 44:27Speaker 2: did you leave the wedding or are you abandoned?
- 44:30Speaker 1: I think this story was and this story was told
- 44:32Speaker 1: by Veronica on Reddit that she left early, so everybody
- 44:36Speaker 1: was still there. They were partying, I'm sure they were drinking,
- 44:38Speaker 1: and she went back to her hotel and then in
- 44:41Speaker 1: the morning she wakes up and she has not heard
- 44:43Speaker 1: from Micah. She checks her location and it's a hospital. Yess, like,
- 44:47Speaker 1: what the f is going on? Well, after you set
- 44:50Speaker 1: the entire thing on fire, then you laugh to go
- 44:53Speaker 1: back to the hotel and pamper yourself. These brothers fought
- 44:56Speaker 1: and Micah ended up in the hospital over your bang ass.
- 45:01Speaker 2: And he even tells her that because I think he called.
- 45:03Speaker 2: She calls him and she's like, why are you at
- 45:05Speaker 2: the hospital, and he tells her about how there was
- 45:08Speaker 2: He's never seen this much blood and so he's like
- 45:10Speaker 2: getting his nose stitched up, and he says that Isaac
- 45:14Speaker 2: beat his ass because of her, And so now she's
- 45:17Speaker 2: probably gonna spin it like she's.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Absolutely gonna Veronica, none of us believe you. You're so
- 45:23Speaker 1: toxic and poisonous. I really think he needs therapy. What
- 45:26Speaker 1: that you commit to and that you want to be
- 45:28Speaker 1: a part of I really think you need help seriously,
- 45:31Speaker 1: something is wrong with you.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Well, and then the Plath stage the intervention with her.
- 45:35Speaker 2: So I guess we'll see that next episode, which will
- 45:38Speaker 2: be good, and.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be here.
- 45:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the case at your brother's out
- 45:44Speaker 1: and my brother's I'm gonna be drinking. I don't think
- 45:46Speaker 1: I can get my brother to watch plathfoll with me.
- 45:49Speaker 2: He's gonna be I might be able to get.
- 45:51Speaker 3: My brother to watch Special Forces with her, Oh my god,
- 45:54Speaker 3: which I think would.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Be hilarious because I think Cody only lasts like one
- 45:58Speaker 1: or two episodes, and I think they like shove his
- 46:02Speaker 1: head into the mud and I would love to watch
- 46:05Speaker 1: that with my brother while I'm drunk.
- 46:06Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 46:07Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be here next week to cover this.
- 46:09Speaker 1: But it didn't say season finale, did it.
- 46:12Speaker 2: No, they didn't, So we probably have a couple more episodes, Okay,
- 46:14Speaker 2: I think according to Google, these usually run like ten
- 46:17Speaker 2: to twelve episodes, so next week's the tenth, so we'll
- 46:21Speaker 2: probably go to twelve episodes probably, which will be good.
- 46:24Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what more is gonna come
- 46:26Speaker 2: after this, because like We've only really seen like up
- 46:30Speaker 2: until the intervention, so I don't know what else we
- 46:32Speaker 2: have planned for.
- 46:33Speaker 3: Olivia's coming back. Oh that's end.
- 46:35Speaker 1: We've got Ethan saying would you just stop it? And
- 46:37Speaker 1: Olivia saying no, So that still has to happen. So
- 46:42Speaker 1: we have at least a couple more, two or three
- 46:45Speaker 1: more episodes. I'm into it, and I'm into it as well.
- 46:47Speaker 1: I do want to say, because I'm going to be
- 46:49Speaker 1: gone next week, there's not going to be a platful
- 46:52Speaker 1: recap next week, but it's going to be the following
- 46:54Speaker 1: week and probably not on Friday, the same day.
- 46:56Speaker 2: It's going to be delayed a little bit because they're.
- 46:58Speaker 3: Gonna be catching up and it's gonna be a whole thing.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Sister Wives Season twenty comes out as well, right when
- 47:02Speaker 2: you get back.
- 47:03Speaker 1: Yeah, so the schedule is going to be shifting and
- 47:06Speaker 1: it's going to be changing, so please bear with us.
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- 47:21Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Beatrice, is there anything else that we want
- 47:24Speaker 1: to say? To these beautiful raccoons before we get up
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- 47:38Speaker 1: In advance, we will be back next week beginning of
- 47:42Speaker 1: the week we are wrapping up our Sister Wives rewind
- 47:46Speaker 1: of season seven. We're stopping at I think it's like
- 47:49Speaker 1: episode five, so like right in the middle of the season.
- 47:51Speaker 1: We'll pick it up after we finish season twenty of
- 47:54Speaker 1: Sister Wis, but we'll be like this, we go to
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- 47:57Speaker 3: Come back for that.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Until then, please do not forget that we have nothing
- 48:01Speaker 1: but love for you and peace.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Almightes mhm.