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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: One fifty five Krcity talkstation. We the People Convention dot org.
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Speaker 1: That would be the website for Tom Sawastowski and of
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Speaker 1: course we the People Convention. Tom Zalwastowski, Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. My friend's always good
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Speaker 1: talking with you.
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Speaker 2: Glad to be with you, Brian, And boy those numbers
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Speaker 2: re quote about the teachers unions, Oh my goodness, you know,
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Speaker 2: a billion dollars you know, to not negotiate for wages,
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Speaker 2: which is what unions are supposed to be benefits. Let's
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Speaker 2: just use that money to, uh, I don't know what,
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Speaker 2: overthrow the US government, well our form of government, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, well down that's exactly really what the money's going to.
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Speaker 1: When you see the organizations that they fund with this money,
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Speaker 1: you know, far left wing groups, Color of Change, Pack, Indivisible,
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Speaker 1: you all know about Indivisible, National Center for Transgender Equality,
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Speaker 1: Planned PARENTHOODS sixteen thirty Fund, New Venture Fund, Human Rights
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Speaker 1: Campaign Foundation, all these far left wing organizations that they're
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Speaker 1: the epicenter behind all these crazy radical protests going on.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's this is where your teachers' union money
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Speaker 1: is going. And I just have to step back from
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Speaker 1: that and get how did this did it get this way?
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Speaker 1: And why are they funding all these radical left organizations? Well,
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Speaker 1: of course, teachers, I guess primarily are made out of
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Speaker 1: radical left individuals. That's Tom. That's frightening, man. Thank god
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Speaker 1: for school choice at least in some states.
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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely correct, and it is frightening. I mean people
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Speaker 2: would ask me for years, you know, I'd run into oldhiuseai.
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Speaker 2: This is packed that we built convention and things for
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Speaker 2: sixteen years, and they would always say, you know, how
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Speaker 2: can we ever stop? You know, the left they control everything.
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Speaker 2: They control education, medicine, movies, sports, all this stuff. How
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Speaker 2: can we ever defeat them? I said, real simple, stop
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Speaker 2: letting them take our money to destroy us. I said,
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Speaker 2: It'd be like if we were It'd be like World
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Speaker 2: War two, if Roosevelt was sending Hitler a billion dollars
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Speaker 2: a month while we were trying to fight them. That's
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Speaker 2: what we're doing. And I think you conductail what you
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Speaker 2: said about the unions with what we're seeing with all
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Speaker 2: these quote unquote social programs like the Somali's in Wisconsin
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Speaker 2: and Ohio, Minnesota and Ohio, where what we're seeing is
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Speaker 2: these programs that they were all developed over all these years.
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Speaker 2: What are they? They're money laundering operations. They take money
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Speaker 2: from hard working Ohioans and Americans and give it to
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Speaker 2: their friends who are what they're college educated and doctrinated
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Speaker 2: anti capitalists, Marxists who want to overthrow our government. And
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Speaker 2: what Trump's doing. And what you got to do, folks
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Speaker 2: who are listening, is when you vote at the polls.
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Speaker 3: This primary is.
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Speaker 2: You've got to stop funding them by denying their levees
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Speaker 2: because they're using it to indoctrinate your kids and overthrow
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Speaker 2: our country.
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Speaker 3: And that's that's the honest truth, Bryan, Well.
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Speaker 1: Isn't the solution? I Now, I'll step back and I
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Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying, and I don't want money
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Speaker 1: funding left wing teachers and left wing you know, advocacy,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. But the schools obviously need to be some
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Speaker 1: funded to something. Isn't the solution to the the well
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Speaker 1: the content that our children are exposed to. Isn't that
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Speaker 1: the school board? And don't we need to have more
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Speaker 1: conservative minded individuals on school boards to dictate the curriculum
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Speaker 1: for these teachers.
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're open up a canon worms there, Brian. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So this yours exactly right. It's about school boards and
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Speaker 2: conservative leadership.
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Speaker 3: I got news here.
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Speaker 2: Try electing a conservative to a school board in the state.
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Speaker 2: It used to be, you know, a school board.
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Speaker 3: Race was a couple thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, put some signs out, you know, and it's all
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Speaker 2: about who's the person, Are they known in the community, you,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. In Northeast Ohio last November, the entire conservative
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Speaker 2: movement did not elect a single school board member in
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Speaker 2: all of Northeast Ohio from Cleveland to Ashibulah.
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Speaker 3: We had the Unions in.
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Speaker 2: North Royalton, Ohio, which is just you know, near Cleveland suburb.
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Speaker 2: The union spent one hundred thousand dollars on cable TV
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Speaker 2: ads to elect school board members to defeat our conservatives. Wow,
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Speaker 2: that's how nutsus is. Because you're right, it's all about
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Speaker 2: the money and it's about the power that.
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Speaker 3: That money can buy.
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Speaker 2: So when people say to me, oh, yeah, you know
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Speaker 2: there's nothing on the ballot here for the primary on
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Speaker 2: May sixth here in the Ohio, I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: bother the vote for that.
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Speaker 3: Go look at the levees.
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Speaker 2: That's where they put them because they.
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Speaker 3: Know you're not going to show up. They're predicting.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're hearing, but I've been asking
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Speaker 2: Frank LeRose and different people what do they think. And
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Speaker 2: the high side of the turnout is going to be
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Speaker 2: twenty percent in some counties the turnout is going to
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Speaker 2: be like ten percent. Well, well, that's your opportunity because
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Speaker 2: listen up, conservatives. That means if you show up to
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Speaker 2: vote at the primary, your vote is worth five times
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Speaker 2: normally would be vote worth in the general.
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Speaker 3: Well, you can make a difference.
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Speaker 1: Well, stated Tom boiled down. That is a great, great point.
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Speaker 1: Your vote is so much more valuable in the primaries
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Speaker 1: because of that pathetic turnout. Hey, and your one vote
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Speaker 1: could make a difference on whether or not you're going
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Speaker 1: to be paying more on any given levee. And that's
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Speaker 1: run reason people typically get up and go vote. There
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Speaker 1: are levees on the primary as well as candidate selections,
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Speaker 1: So vote more with Tom's Awastowski we either People Convention
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Speaker 1: dot org. Check it out. You can check out his
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Speaker 1: weekly podcast, Talk Station seven forty here if you've have
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Speaker 1: KRCD Talk station and very Happy Tuesday to you. Right
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Speaker 1: Tom's Awastowski. You'll find him online at We the People
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Speaker 1: Convention dot org. Tom talking about, well, we have this
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Speaker 1: property tax issue swirling around in the state, about how
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Speaker 1: clearly that impacts the funding of school districts, but also
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Speaker 1: the broader question of you know, have they got enough
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Speaker 1: signatures you had to put this eradication of property taxes
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Speaker 1: on the ballot? Do you have an update on that?
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Speaker 2: Toime, I do have an update, And there was really
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Speaker 2: a big announcement that happened on April twenty third, last
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Speaker 2: week where the ax Ohio tax group that's been collecting signatures,
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Speaker 2: their leader Brian Massey, finally decided to unveil how many
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Speaker 2: signatures they had actually collected. And so, for those of
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Speaker 2: you who have been watching this issue closely, because you
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Speaker 2: know a lot of people are upset with their property
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Speaker 2: taxes and want to see either full repeal or reform,
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Speaker 2: they wanted to know you know what the total signature
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Speaker 2: account was, and they announced that they had collected three
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Speaker 2: hundred and five thousand signatures, which you know, I can
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Speaker 2: tell you as one of the few people in this
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Speaker 2: state alive today that's ever done a constitutional amendment that passed.
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Speaker 2: I was the president of the Ohio Liberty Council when
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Speaker 2: we passed the Ohio Healthcare Amendment back in twenty eleven.
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Speaker 2: One hundred and five thousand signatures, Brian, is one hell
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Speaker 2: of an achievement by grassroots people, and they should be
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Speaker 2: proud of that effort. But that's not enough to get
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Speaker 2: it on the ballot. If they need four hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirteen thousand and four hundred and eighty eight valid signatures. Now,
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Speaker 2: the problem is that we're valid because you know, they've
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Speaker 2: been collecting signatures since like last summer, and people move
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Speaker 2: and people die, and so some of the signatures they
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Speaker 2: collected are not going to be good. So Brian said
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Speaker 2: that their goal was to collect six hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: thousand signatures to make sure they got the total they needed. Well,
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Speaker 2: if they only have three hundred five thousand, now six
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty is double and they only have until
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Speaker 2: the end of June to do that. So people were disappointed,
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Speaker 2: but also other people were impressed, and even some of
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Speaker 2: the people in the legislature were like, wow, you know,
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Speaker 2: that's a lot of signatures. People really care about this issue.
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Speaker 2: So if you want to see the whole press conference,
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Speaker 2: which is worth watching, go to Ohio citizenspack dot org.
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Speaker 2: Ohio citizenspack dot org. What's one of our websites. You
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Speaker 2: also see our endorsements for the state office holders for
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Speaker 2: this election. But you can watch the whole video, and
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Speaker 2: again I congratulate Brian and a thousands of volunteers. They're
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Speaker 2: going to keep going, Brian, there, he said, Brian Massey
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Speaker 2: said in the presid umbers even if we don't get
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Speaker 2: them now, we're going to keep collecting signatures and try
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Speaker 2: to get them in the ballot in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: Now you may say, well, you know, that's not a
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Speaker 2: very good thing, but it is a good thing because
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Speaker 2: it sends the message to the legislature that these citizens
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Speaker 2: are not going to accept them not taking action to
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Speaker 2: reform property taxes. I think that's a worthy cause for them,
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Speaker 2: and I thank them for doing that well.
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Speaker 1: Tom with a notable exception of those who move which
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Speaker 1: might render their signature invalid. Can they continue to just
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Speaker 1: keep piling up signatures over time in different over multiple years,
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Speaker 1: so the ones they three hundred thousand or so that
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Speaker 1: they've accumulated already, those sit in a pile while they
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Speaker 1: continue to add on into next year to get the
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Speaker 1: requisite four hundred and fourteen thousand they need, or they
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Speaker 1: have to start from scratch with a new petition effort.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so my understanding is because that was a big
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Speaker 2: question I had last year because they were trying to
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Speaker 2: get it on last year and then they said, well,
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Speaker 2: we're going to keep going, and they talked with Secretary
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Speaker 2: of State's office and we're told that they could keep
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Speaker 2: doing it, but it's kind of like a one year
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Speaker 2: limit on it. So you know what happens is, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a race against time. Is I understand that some
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Speaker 2: of them will start to become invalid because of the
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Speaker 2: date that they signed, and it makes it hard. It's
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Speaker 2: a challenge to do this, and that's why I kept
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Speaker 2: saying I was trying to raise money to help get
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Speaker 2: some ballot collection companies to help get the signatures because
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Speaker 2: it's really really hard to do. And so you know,
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll ever get there. Here's the
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Speaker 2: bottom line. I asked your listeners call your house and
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Speaker 2: Senate members call send a message of that Ramaswami, they
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Speaker 2: need to take control of this issue. I've presented the
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Speaker 2: bank and his team and and and even the legislator
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Speaker 2: Matt Huffman and Rob McCauley with a plan that reforms
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Speaker 2: our property taxes in a way that doesn't destroy our
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Speaker 2: schools and our fire and our police and the VEK
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Speaker 2: is for this, but the legislature keeps.
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Speaker 3: Telling them the wait, wait for what.
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Speaker 2: We need this done. And you know what, Brian, we
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Speaker 2: need this because people will turn out the vote in
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Speaker 2: November if it's on the ballot, and if it's not,
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of our people are going to
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Speaker 2: stay home.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll stick around Tom's I was to ask you
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to hear what the details of your
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Speaker 1: plan are. And I guess it is true. I know
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Speaker 1: Ramaswami has Ramaswami has released you know, the the the
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Speaker 1: the outlines of a plan. You don't need to have
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Speaker 1: him already elected as governor to move forward with the
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Speaker 1: concept that he's proposed. I want to find out if
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Speaker 1: Tom's is any talk station KCV talk station weither people
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Speaker 1: can mention dot Org Tom Dawastauski on the phone, get
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Speaker 1: them every week round this time. And Tom, you were
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Speaker 1: talking about your plan to roll back property tax you've
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Speaker 1: passed along to vivig Ramaswami. He had his own plan.
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Speaker 1: He outlined. It was just a thumbnail sketch of rolling
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Speaker 1: back property taxes to twenty nineteen pre COVID levels and
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Speaker 1: then adjusting property taxes with a cap on an increase
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Speaker 1: based upon the actual inflation rate. Sounds logical and reasonable.
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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what your plan is, but real
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Speaker 1: quick here, since the opposition the Repeal Property Tax Coalition
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Speaker 1: has not yet gotten enough signatures, and it's a dicey
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Speaker 1: proposition whether they can get enough by the June deadline.
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Speaker 1: There hasn't been any and correct me if I'm wrong
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Speaker 1: on this statement. There hasn't been any moneyed organized opposition
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Speaker 1: to rolling back the property tax yet, has there or
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Speaker 1: is there some money backing out there to reject the
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Speaker 1: notion of rolling back property taxes Because I expect there
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Speaker 1: are going to be a lot of people who are
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Speaker 1: going to want to try to convince us out here
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Speaker 1: if we get the chance to vote on it, to
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Speaker 1: not vote in favor of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly when you're talking full repeal, because so many,
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Speaker 2: you know, of these government agencies, all of whom have
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Speaker 2: unions workers for them, are going to be threatened by that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Teachers unions, police unions, fire unions keep going down the list, right,
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Speaker 2: So you know, there's a couple of things.
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Speaker 3: We did.
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Speaker 2: The Weed to People Convention conducted a poll last December
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Speaker 2: about this whole issue, and what we found was what
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Speaker 2: you would expect. Sixty nine percent of Ohioans were very
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Speaker 2: much in favor of property tax reform, meaning, you know,
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Speaker 2: give us some of our money back, make it harder
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Speaker 2: to raise taxes, et cetera. Only seven percent were for
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Speaker 2: total repeal because they understood the threat to their township,
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Speaker 2: their local community, et cetera.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at a Bowling Green.
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Speaker 2: University poll and they did a test that was interesting
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Speaker 2: where they basically said, okay, are you for repeal.
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Speaker 3: Of property taxes? And then when people.
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Speaker 2: You know, said yeah, I am, they would start to say,
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Speaker 2: now do you know what this would mean to the school,
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Speaker 2: to your fire department, to your township. And the more
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Speaker 2: information they gave them, the lower their approval rating went
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Speaker 2: to the point where only like forty percent of people
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Speaker 2: were for it, even though they said they were for
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Speaker 2: repeal to start with. So that's the problem with the
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Speaker 2: full repeal, it's it's just too radical for most people
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Speaker 2: who really do trust. In this poll as well, they
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Speaker 2: said sixty one percent of people trust their local government,
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Speaker 2: but only twenty eight percent trust their state government, only
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Speaker 2: eleven percent just.
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Speaker 3: Their federal guards.
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Speaker 2: So that makes a lot of sense. So the package
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Speaker 2: at the VEC and again Vivek's actually running TV ads
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Speaker 2: about this and on his web page Vote Vivek for
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Speaker 2: Ohio dot Com.
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Speaker 3: There's a whole section.
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Speaker 2: With his plan that you really came from an effort
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Speaker 2: where we, you know, we kind.
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Speaker 3: Of looked at what's reasonable.
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Speaker 2: And put together a program, and this plan, I think
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Speaker 2: I think people would like it basically rolls property paxes
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Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty, before all the giant leaps took place.
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Speaker 2: Then it actually does something for senior citizens. It says,
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Speaker 2: if your home is valed at less than three hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars and you've been there for at least fifteen years,
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Speaker 2: and you are over age sixty five, you will be
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Speaker 2: exempt from real property taxes for the rest of your
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Speaker 2: life as long as you're.
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Speaker 3: In that home.
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty big deal first time property owners, if
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Speaker 2: you know. Can we have a problem here in Ohow
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Speaker 2: people can't afford to buy a house. So there's also
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Speaker 2: a provision that the vacant and Rob mccalling those guys
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Speaker 2: are talking about, where they would say, if you're buying
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Speaker 2: a house for the first time, and it's your valuation
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Speaker 2: that house is under three hundred thousand dollars, you would
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Speaker 2: not pay property taxes for the first three years. I
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Speaker 2: like that. The other part of it is Brian, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's not just let's roll back property taxes. The problem
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Speaker 2: is how do they get increased. And so there's changes
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Speaker 2: in that the legislature has already talked about instead of
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Speaker 2: tying the increases for the inside millage, which is millage
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Speaker 2: that they can charge you without a vote on the ballot,
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Speaker 2: that instead of tying it to your property of your valuation.
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Speaker 2: You know what's the market say, your properties worth, you
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Speaker 2: tie that to inslation so that any increases are much
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Speaker 2: much smaller, right, And so that's a good thing. Another
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Speaker 2: thing was let's change it so that if you want
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Speaker 2: to put a property tax on the ballot, you got
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Speaker 2: to get fifty five percent of the vote to get
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Speaker 2: it to pass. Because the unions have so much money
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Speaker 2: and it's so one side of these campaigns for this
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Speaker 2: that they at fifty percent, they could pretty much do
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Speaker 2: it just by turning out the parents of the school
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Speaker 2: and their own union members. But at fifty five percent,
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Speaker 2: some of the local community has to be involved. So
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Speaker 2: this is the challenge. How do you reform it to also,
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Speaker 2: you know, make it so that we don't raise them
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Speaker 2: again right back to where they were.
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Speaker 1: And of course course it's much easier to get your
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Speaker 1: school levee past if you do it during a primary
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Speaker 1: when only ten percent of the people show up and
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Speaker 1: you have all of your unions all showing up to
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Speaker 1: vote in favor of the levey. Once again, going back
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Speaker 1: to your point, your vote is far more powerful in
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Speaker 1: a primary. So if you've got strong opinions about a
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Speaker 1: levee one way or another, and there are a lot
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Speaker 1: of them floating around out there, then get out and vote.
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Speaker 1: Tom's Alastowski appreciate your comments. I appreciate what you do
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Speaker 1: throughout the week. We the People Convention dot org. I'll
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Speaker 1: encourage my listeners to check out what you do every
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Speaker 1: week and bookmark your page so they have access to
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Speaker 1: your content. Tom will do this again next week. I
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Speaker 1: hope you have a great week between now and.
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Speaker 3: Then, Sam, you Brian, thanks for having me on My Pleasure.
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