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1-800-Wanderer Above the Sea of Fog · 1-800-1800

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  SPEAKER_01: Ring, ring.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hello?
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  SPEAKER_01: Is this the Wanderer Over the Sea Fog?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just wanted to ask you how we can define our relationship to a world
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  SPEAKER_02: that threatens us constantly with annihilation.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I ask myself that every single day.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like this painting from 200 years ago is more relevant than ever.
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  SPEAKER_02: And on that note, this is 1-800-1800.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hello?
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  SPEAKER_00: You've reached 1-800-1800.
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  SPEAKER_00: 1-800-1800.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a burning question.
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  SPEAKER_00: 1-800-1800.
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  SPEAKER_00: 1-800-1800.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a burning question.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what's your name?
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  SPEAKER_02: And my name is Madeline Porsella.
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  SPEAKER_02: My name is Mabel Taylor.
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  SPEAKER_02: And today we will be talking about Caspar David Friedrich's classic 1818 painting,
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  SPEAKER_02: Der Wanderer über den Nabelmere, or Wanderer above the Sea of Fog.
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  SPEAKER_02: For those who don't speak German, as Madeline clearly does.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know it's intimidating everyone that Madeline is trilingual,
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  SPEAKER_01: but it's hard, but it intimidates me for sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, every day.
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  SPEAKER_02: So why are we talking about this painting, Napalm?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because we do this thing in our books called the visual glossary,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is an attempt to illustrate the world of the novel.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's basically a series of numbers in the margins of the books that correspond to...
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like the Fibonacci sequence.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like pie.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's numbers in the book that correspond to images at the back of the book
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  SPEAKER_01: that are basically image footnotes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So instead of explanatory textual information, we provide images that...
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  SPEAKER_01: Explain what's going on, illustrate what's going on, elaborate upon what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's our attempt to bring to our readers the visual material world
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  SPEAKER_01: that really brought us to the 19th century in the first place,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is, you know, that's our bread and butter.
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  SPEAKER_01: We are art history, material culture, visual history people.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we wanted to put that in our books.
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  SPEAKER_01: And our dear friend and designer Emily helped us come up with this concept.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's a huge success.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's brilliant.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's genius.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think one of the things that speaks to our own sort of poetic natures to sort
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  SPEAKER_02: of get into the vibe of the episode is that they're not just illustrative footnotes
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  SPEAKER_02: of like an object in the novel, but we do a lot that are kind of vibes based.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And The Wanderer Above the Sea of Fog has appeared in at least four.
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  SPEAKER_02: I saw three.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because it's in one of the upcoming ones, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was only looking at the ones I physically have in person.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's in 50% of our books.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it probably is our number one most used because we both use it, which is interesting.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it's in which of the upcoming books is it in?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's in Love Days, I believe.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Are you sure I did that?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think
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  SPEAKER_01: it might be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's in Love Days.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you serious?
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  SPEAKER_02: The quote is,
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  SPEAKER_02: perhaps she thought that was why he found the mountains consoling,
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  SPEAKER_02: because they held the maximum of permanency in this world of flux.
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  SPEAKER_02: They and the stars,
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  SPEAKER_02: the beautiful,
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  SPEAKER_02: remote, untouchable stars that shone for everyone, not only for Taurus.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yet she was ready to love the mountains together with him.
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  SPEAKER_01: God, it's so good.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Love Days is one of our upcoming books.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is about a woman basically over the course of almost a decade going
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  SPEAKER_01: from her college days to her sort of strange conclusion,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is in a sanatorium in Switzerland,
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  SPEAKER_01: which explains why she's interested in the mountains
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  SPEAKER_01: and why I guess I felt compelled to put in this Friedrich painting into
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  SPEAKER_01: the visual glossary.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because that book is the closest like geographically and Content-wise
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  SPEAKER_01: to the origins of the Friedrich world.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the only one taking place in mountains in Europe.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wrong.
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  SPEAKER_01: What about what others?
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  SPEAKER_02: The Godfly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I forgot about that one.
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  SPEAKER_02: You fool.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I wrote down, I knew it was in there, but I forgot it's also in the Alps.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's just funny,
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  SPEAKER_01: but what I was going to say is that it's also in the Morgansons and it's also in
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  SPEAKER_01: the Hill of Dreams, which are very different.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.