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Delivering Happiness with Nick Tuturro: M Shadows from Avenged Sevenfold · Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Come on delivery. Thank you so much. You look good,
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: so do you? Thank you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I have many I just asked for every haircut,
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  Speaker 2: every every haircut.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah is this is this a new look?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not very new. I've been using it for
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  Speaker 2: like three years now.
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  Speaker 3: Really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and into blending.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not into blending the hard lines.
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  Speaker 3: I know, because that drive me insane. Lack of blend,
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  Speaker 3: well that's why. Well, I like, I like different hand dues.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's gotta be different. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone blends, I know, but like doesn't like funk with you.
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  Speaker 2: No, But my kids make fun of me. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So I play a lot of basketball. My son came
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  Speaker 2: and watched me other night and he he uh no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a shooting guard. And my son was talking to
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  Speaker 2: one of the guys on our team and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't my dad look like a dupist with his mullet
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  Speaker 2: and thinks he's so tough. And my buddy almost off
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  Speaker 2: the bench laughing. He's like, dude, you're eleven year olds
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  Speaker 2: is clowning on you. It's like, well, I guess he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't think I'm cool.
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  Speaker 4: It should like a cool guy. He looked a little
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  Speaker 4: like a picture on the Yankees.
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  Speaker 3: This guy, Cam Schlittler. Yeah, you don't watch baseball.
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch baseball, but I watch enough of it.
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  Speaker 2: But I do know shooting guard. Yeah, shooting guard. But
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  Speaker 2: I do know that. All my friends that do play
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  Speaker 2: baseball say, this is definitely a haircut that could be
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  Speaker 2: on the baseball. Oh yeah, you can. You can rock that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a picture, sure for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Where'd you grow up?
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  Speaker 2: Man, Honey to the beach?
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  Speaker 3: Also out here in.
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  Speaker 2: California, I like Orange County, far enough away from LA right,
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  Speaker 2: just stay out of the light, the mess, the mess. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we got a good down here. It's usually very sunny,
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  Speaker 2: very good weather, good people, and it's not crowded.
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  Speaker 3: Is that where you started that? You guys started the band.
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  Speaker 2: That started the band. We were all playing and we
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  Speaker 2: met each other in like grade school, but actually before
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  Speaker 2: some of us we all played in different bands. And
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  Speaker 2: then in high school we said we should start something together, right,
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  Speaker 2: And so when we were like seventeen, we started this band, right,
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  Speaker 2: so juniors in high school. Johnny, our bass player, was
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  Speaker 2: probably a freshman at that point. And then we started
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  Speaker 2: playing shows around Orange county and then we said this
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  Speaker 2: is what we're gonna do and put all the eggs
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  Speaker 2: in one basket. That's cool.
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  Speaker 4: How many years it together? Twenty five twenty five? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you don't see them at all.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty five twenty six years. Yeah, my skincare routine. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: you're still man forty four? Man there? Well my metabolic
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  Speaker 2: ages thirty two.
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  Speaker 3: So metabolic what does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: When you get tested for like how your organs are
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  Speaker 2: doing and stuff? So oh really yeah, doing doing pretty well?
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  Speaker 3: They tested for your organs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can do that. You can get like a
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  Speaker 2: deck scan and you can see like what your body's
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  Speaker 2: running at instead of how old you actually are.
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  Speaker 3: Really haven't seen that?
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  Speaker 2: No, you should do it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm wonder like I'm sixty four, I wonder what I'm
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  Speaker 4: running at.
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  Speaker 2: You might be running way better or way worse.
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  Speaker 3: I'm afraid to know.
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  Speaker 4: I had a lot of issues. Yeah, I had one
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  Speaker 4: shoulder that I had a knee. Now I had this
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  Speaker 4: shoulder just keeps happening. The shoulders are tough.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I don't want to do another's shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: So do you left a lot of weights when you
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  Speaker 2: were younger?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: But I was I was active.
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  Speaker 4: I threw a lot of baseballs over the years, so
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  Speaker 4: I think that caught up with me now I did
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  Speaker 4: at first my son.
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  Speaker 3: Now I got my grandson.
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  Speaker 4: But now I'm like, I'm like, right now, it's rotator
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  Speaker 4: cuff time is something.
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  Speaker 2: It is My dad does the same thing. From lifting
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  Speaker 2: and from shooting baskets, shoulders are shot shot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was a good basketball player too.
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  Speaker 4: I actually magic didn't grow but I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean I didn't grow basketball.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I used to go to basketball camp every year when
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  Speaker 4: I was a kid, sleep away and.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was exciting, good stuff, always great. I
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  Speaker 3: used to cry my parents would leave me a long island. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like the end of the world. I'm whole sick, but
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  Speaker 3: that was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I missed those days's tearing the chest for sure.
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  Speaker 4: What they made a pizza? Yeah, I mean, look, let's
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  Speaker 4: take a look a look. It's supposed to be chalcoal
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  Speaker 4: or some ship. Yeah, is that is that burnt?
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  Speaker 2: No? Charcoal?
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  Speaker 3: Chocolate?
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  Speaker 2: Were getting getting very unique here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And when we rocking, we're in a rock and.
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  Speaker 2: Roll band, we gotta do something different. And I think
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  Speaker 2: the charcoal adds a little bit of a goth.
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  Speaker 3: I like, no, I don't mind. You know. My dad
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  Speaker 3: used to always say burn it with the pizza.
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  Speaker 2: Like I love burnt pizza. You do, I actually do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say the burnt stuff is really not that
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  Speaker 3: good for you. But you know who's who's they?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: But what do you get on here? You got we
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  Speaker 4: definitely a lot of money. Some sausage, yeah, some pepper's
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  Speaker 4: I like cheese. It's got some Yeah, has.
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  Speaker 3: A cool look.
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  Speaker 2: Some bacon on there. Yeah, hopefully it doesn't turn your
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  Speaker 2: mouth block.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you brush your teeth right, you take you
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  Speaker 3: have never pizza? You know? What is it? I'm honest
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  Speaker 3: to you. I'll I'll check it out. We've got the
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  Speaker 3: smallest slice. Jesus, that's not how to do it.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think You're happy?
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  Speaker 2: Incredible? Get a napkin man And now as you can see,
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  Speaker 2: I was had some blood work done. Yeah, what's going?
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  Speaker 2: Went you checked out before tour? They check you out
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  Speaker 2: well insurance for tour. They won't ensure the band members
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  Speaker 2: if they think you're gonna die to get out there.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys to get the blood work done. And
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  Speaker 2: so I've been fasting?
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  Speaker 3: Is it a big blood test.
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  Speaker 2: Just no, just typical stuff to make sure you're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna keel over. Right, So this is my first food
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  Speaker 2: ten hours.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that bottom that is burnt.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty awesome. No, it's not burned.
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  Speaker 5: Try it really, it's not burnt. Chalcol ain't half bad.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's good.
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  Speaker 4: Really just staying downwards, I mean, you got to get creative,
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  Speaker 4: like with music and good food, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What I mean. I have to say though, it's it's
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: really the guys at Prince Street that came up with us.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, you know, I had some ideas and we
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  Speaker 2: so you're like, oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Like you're gonna give all the credits the Prince Street,
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  Speaker 4: You're not going to take anything.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we made the decision the yes, but I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even know Black Christmas possible, to be honest me neither.
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  Speaker 4: If you're attached to it, you should take the credit,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Because it's like people say,
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  Speaker 4: who came up with that? I'm like, I did, I did.
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  Speaker 2: But then they're like you hate it and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't mean it wasn't me. That's the music industry,
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  Speaker 2: you know that. It's basically if anything goes well, it
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  Speaker 2: was your idea. It was that. It's like I was
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  Speaker 2: forced to do this because this guy, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 2: so I try not to do that too much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: tried to give credit where it's due.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, get the haircut thenk you do you
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  Speaker 4: have like a seid ball, but I do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. How long you been with your barber?
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  Speaker 2: My sister in law? Oh really, she sends me pictures
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  Speaker 2: of wild things and we decide if we're gonna do
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  Speaker 2: it or not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, but I mean, do you have ever have a
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  Speaker 3: beef with your barber?
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  Speaker 2: Not really?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, you Oh yeah, I mean I've been through
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  Speaker 4: a few barbers, but I have one.
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  Speaker 3: Now who's you know. We were beefing a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Not because I cheated on him, It's just, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I only cheat on him when I'm like
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  Speaker 4: I'm out of town or like you know, maybe I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I have no choice.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 3: But he's a little different. But he's a good guy.
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  Speaker 3: But he doesn't communicate how he's feeling to me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm like, how how am I going to read
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  Speaker 3: your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What I mean, how am I going to read your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Is that necessary with your haircut though.
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  Speaker 4: With me, yeah, yeah, A lot of people say, don't
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  Speaker 4: cut his hair because I hold the mirror and oh
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  Speaker 4: do you and I make people nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Are you like over analyzing it?
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  Speaker 3: No, I just know a lot of people me up.
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  Speaker 2: It's true.
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  Speaker 4: Like one time when I was a kid, young guy,
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  Speaker 4: I went to a place go salad vins and they
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  Speaker 4: had scissors.
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  Speaker 3: Like that big.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there was, yeah, tremendously big, and I had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of hand and then the guy cut I
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  Speaker 4: owned my hair off. Not only did it cut it off,
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  Speaker 4: it was like crooked because the scissors were so big.
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  Speaker 3: The hair was in my face. I couldn't see what was.
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  Speaker 2: Going on, and so you knew it was gonna be bad.
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  Speaker 3: I knew. I jumped out of the chair. I was
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  Speaker 3: like stop, he goes no, No, I fex I fix.
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  Speaker 4: I said, no, you're destroyed, You're destroying Yeah. I like
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  Speaker 4: ran out of the shop with my capeon, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and then I was like looking for someone to fix it,
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  Speaker 4: because when you get a bad haircut, it takes you
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  Speaker 4: two three haircuts to get back to a good haircut.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, you know now you're bringing this up. I
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  Speaker 2: remember I got I was going to a brand new
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  Speaker 2: school in eighth grade, and the day before school I
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: was getting a haircut and the lady went so short
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  Speaker 2: that it wasn't my hair anymore. It was like and
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  Speaker 2: I literally cried the whole air yeah, because I was like, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna go meet all these new people.
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  Speaker 2: This is not how I want to be represented.
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  Speaker 3: And let me tell you, somebody your head and you're
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  Speaker 3: a musician. I'm an artist too. I mean you know
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  Speaker 3: we're both artists. Yeah, if you hang it right, you
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  Speaker 3: ain't right. I'm telling you. You walk out a lot
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  Speaker 3: of these shows I do.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes these guys are not telling me my hast up.
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  Speaker 3: I see the shows. I'm not being protected here, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: These are my guys. They're not telling me your hands up.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't care. I need to come in with
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  Speaker 6: fresh haircuts. I need to be protected, Matt. I agree,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not getting protected. And then they do this. The
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  Speaker 6: bother is I'm like, don't do that. Turn the chain
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  Speaker 6: this way. It's okay.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: You can trust me on it. No, No, I can't
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  Speaker 3: trust you. I can't trust you. Give me the mirror.
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  Speaker 3: I agree, like, and then you could see the head
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  Speaker 3: cut going south.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you go to the dryes, somebody're like,
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I thought I told you they don't
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  Speaker 4: go too high.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I told you. And they're like, you mean,
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  Speaker 3: what's that thing? They were saying?
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  Speaker 4: You want to you wanna I forget they taper. I'm like, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to tapa. I don't want to tapa.
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  Speaker 4: I want a low fade. Yeah, like you got a
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  Speaker 4: good faith, but you're not interested in the blend anyway.
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  Speaker 2: No. I want the harsh. I want the harsh edges. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but sometimes you'll get someone that wants to fade it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Want to see with your hair. It's all right, I
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  Speaker 3: push it back. Do you gel it a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I had nothing right now. I just got a haircut.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a couple of photos today. You gotta
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  Speaker 2: I gotta go get my hair done later. Really, Yeah,
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: you guys are getting.
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  Speaker 3: Me think about it when you're doing your head.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I may never not think about you again.
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  Speaker 3: You'd be like, you know what I need to cold
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  Speaker 3: Nick right now? Man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I'm feeling that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling that hal vibe. Yeah, but it's a big deal, man, it's.
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  Speaker 2: A big deal.
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  Speaker 3: So what's what's what's your your get up? Like on stage?
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  Speaker 3: Is this?
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  Speaker 2: No you wear I just wear black on black on black,
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: black on black to get the gold teeth and the
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  Speaker 2: black on black and that's it. Is this the that's
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  Speaker 2: that's a real gold tooth.
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  Speaker 3: It's real gold.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had do that. Well, I had a
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  Speaker 2: root canal from twenty five years ago that went to
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: the dentist and they're like, hey, this thing run its course,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: so we're gonna put a you know, an implant in
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  Speaker 2: And I said, well, put a gold tooth in them. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So I got a gold tooth.
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  Speaker 3: That's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You can do whatever you want this world, right,
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  Speaker 2: you do whatever you want. Who cares like it's not
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  Speaker 2: that serious. So yeah, you make black pizza, you can
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  Speaker 2: make gold teeth. Doesn't it just doesn't matter. Gold teeth
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: You got nice dimples, Thank you. You have a people comment.
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  Speaker 2: When I was younger, they commented a lot of my dimples.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: I've been watching this serial killer show. Guys, guys, you
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: have dimples. No, he has dimples.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He was usually a sign of killers.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: Did you hear about this guy Wayne Stephen Wilson.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I've heard one sick. No, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to.
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  Speaker 4: Came out like he was a good looking guy. He's like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm fascinating this guy. Women were I'm fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: Probably that's probably why he was able to kill They were.
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  Speaker 3: They were like, yeah, but it's dimples.
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: There's dimples, and I'm seeing you smile like you got
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  Speaker 4: a nice dimple.
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  Speaker 3: You a lot in comment with that guy, Not really,
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  Speaker 3: but check it out. He's like Wade Wilson and Wade Steven.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's you know, it's entertaining all these women calling
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  Speaker 4: them from prison and all.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's just choked out to women.
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  Speaker 2: That always happens if you're good looking, right, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you go to jail, you get girls.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: Like tell me about like coming out of high school,
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: you played this big warped tour and all these festivals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when we were, you know, seventeen, writing
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: our first record, and uh, we got offered to play
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: the very smallest stage, which it wasn't a stage at all.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: It's just the dirt lot kind of. It's called Kevin
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Says stage, which is the owner of the tour. That's
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: where you put all the bands that were like starting
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: out or didn't have a room on the stages.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the Warp.
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  Speaker 2: Well, So the Warped Tour was like kind of a
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  Speaker 2: showcase of all the coolest things coming up for that generation,
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  Speaker 2: right like Yeah, No Doubt had played it and Eminem
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and No Effects and Bad Religion and all these cool
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: bands were kind of where they got their start. And
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: it was very young audience, very like hip parents didn't
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: want their kids going. It was like it was very cool,
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  Speaker 2: it was very punk rock, and so we got offered
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: to play the small stage and we went and we
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: set up our gear in the dirt, traveled the country
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: and that's kind of how everything, you know, we kind
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: of like saw that as a thread of success and
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: like we can do this, and then every year we
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: kind of moved our way up until we were headlining
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  Speaker 2: the Warp Tour four years later, and then we quickly
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: moved into Ozfest and that's kind of how we started.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: It was like really playing those kind of underground.
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  Speaker 4: Festivals and just independent route independent yeah, yeah, like independent movies.
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  Speaker 2: And then we got you know, picked up by a
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  Speaker 2: major label.
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  Speaker 3: After that but after how many years was that?
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  Speaker 2: It was a few years. We put out a record
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  Speaker 2: called Waking the Fallen and I think it had sold
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand copies on an independent label.
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  Speaker 2: So of course, you know, DreamWorks and Universal and Warner
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  Speaker 2: Brothers and everyone came and they wanted to sign us.
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  Speaker 2: So we ended up going to Warner Brothers.
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  Speaker 3: Warner Brothers, yep, and you're still with Warner Brothers. Nope.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: We did eight records with them, and then we are
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: done with record labels, so we're a fully independent band now.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Wow, yep, you say eight records eight albums or eight albums?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eight album So three years ago, what was our
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: last album we had to do with them? And then
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: because of the way the music industry is now, we
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: just don't see a point of ever being on a
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: label again. You really can't do much for you. They'll
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: tell you they can do a lot, but they can't
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: have no radio that matters. There's no MTV. They're gonna
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: try to get you on TikTok whichever one can do themselves.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: So they don't bring anything extra to the table.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, they don't bring anything.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: But back in the day, when you signed, like, what
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: would they do. They'd give you an advance, They'd give
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: you what.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: We'd give you an advance. You had no money, right,
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: so like they'd give you money to record a record.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: They would hook you up with producers or engineers, mixers,
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: and then they would go pay Walmart and Target to
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: put you on the end caps. And then they'd pay
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: radio stations to play you, and they'd it's called payola.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: It was illegal, but they'd do it. And then they
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: would go hound MTV and get you your records played,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: you know, on national television. Now it's all gone. So
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I can go upload something on YouTube and on TikTok,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: and I can go play shows. I can make more
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: money in one show that it would cost to right
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: writer or you know, make a record than they can
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: give you. And when they give you the money, you're
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: paying four times what that money is to get it back.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: So there's just no point seeing how the record business works.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: And I know a little bit about the movie television business.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand how it worked till two years later
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: when I was developing and had development deals. I never
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: really knew where the money was, how it was, how
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: it works.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: But the music.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the industry just blew it all open. Yeah,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: and people are still very late to move. They're looking
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: at it going, well, it's really cool to tell my
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: grandparents that I'm on Universal Records. Really Universal Records gives
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: you twenty five thousand dollars. You have to make one
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand to pay that back every penny, and so
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: if you can afford it yourself, you should do it yourself,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: right because they're not gonna there's no there is no
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: k rock anymore that's going to play something modern. They don't.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: They play all the old stuff, so there's no point.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: So, like, if you were coming up today, would you
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: prefer the business to be like it is today or
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: like when you started? How you've seen the changes from
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: yesterday to today?
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: And I absolutely love where everything's at right now. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: think it's super interesting and it creates way more artistic
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: freedom because people can do whatever they want and either
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: works or it doesn't, and you kind of move and pivot.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: When you have radio stations and MTV and this and that,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: you get a lot of favorites being played because this worked,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: So go make more stuff like that. There's not a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: lot of creativity there, it's basically based on what are
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: people listening to, and so the art form really becomes
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: like a full on product. It's just like make more
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of the product. And that's not really what music should be.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: It should be like a free expression, right. So, but
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I will say I'm extremely grateful that we came around
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: during a time where we could get our foot in
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the door and sell a ton of records, and we
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: were on MTV and we were on radio stations, so
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: it really catapulted the band in a way that you know,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: the normal kid that's playing Call of Duty or Madden,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: here's our music on there, because there's these drivers. But
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: if I had to choose, like right now, I love
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: the way the industry is now because people can throw
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: such creative stuff at the wall and you can go
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: find it and it's amazing. But that comes with the
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: caveat of you're not going to.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Get as big as you could have, right, right, So
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: you've seen you've seen the difference between both of them.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of like a hinge band, Like we
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: have our left leg and the old and we have
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: our right leg fully focused on what's happening now. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: we got to see both where the younger generation they
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: have no clue what it was like to want to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Noel Mart and buy a record that was on an
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: end cap, right, Or to turn on MTV and TRLS
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: on in your favorite band's number one on TRL and
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you're calling and voting and doesn't exist anymore. But that's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: what I grew up with. It was fun, it was exciting.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: But it's changed.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of lost. It's a law, right, right,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: it's different.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I mean to go buy a record, to go buy
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: an album, like when I was a kid, that was exciting. Yes,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you get the album, you went home, you put it
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: on the phonograph, that's right, phonograph. Yeah, you have record
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: play or whatever you want to call it, turn table.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: It was exciting, yes, you know, it meant something. It's
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: just like going to the movies.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Now it's always streaming, streaming. I'm like, I don't even
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: know what that is.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have when you're streaming music now you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: people can just they listen for one second, they don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like it, they move on to the next thing. Well,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: when we bought records, we had to live with it. Yeah,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and when you lived with it, you began to love it. Yeah,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, this is actually this record's amazing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand it. Like, but you just paid, you know,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: ten twenty bucks for it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: You listen to it, you better hope this at least
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: five or six good songs out of the eighth.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And usually there's a lot of good songs. Yeah, it
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: takes some times.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Some of them are not commercial hits and they're like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: well I don't know that one. Yeah, but it's a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: really good album.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I I was playing an.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Old Billy Joel album from my partner on this show
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and he was like, I.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Don't notice song.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't notice song.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what did you like it? He was like, yeah,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: it's good. I was like, it's better than good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: It's like we were driving around Warp Tour. We had
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a tape deck and one of the truck stops we
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: had Billy Joel fifty second Street and that was the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: only thing we played for the whole Warp Tour eight
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: track No, just the tape, like the cat cassette tape,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: and it was like every song was incredible. But you
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: would never know in this day. You would just listen
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to the single. You'd listen to yeah.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a song called Zanzibar. It was good for amazing,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: great song, amazing, but never hit right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like too unique.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It was another one. I think Rosalie is way that record.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'm believing.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I'm a big billy Joel fan.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And you know, when I was a doorman one year
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: he lived in my hotel, uh Satan Rit's on the Pass,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Central Polk South before I became an actor, and he
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: wrote that whole Innocent Man album and he met Christy
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Brinkley used to come down to a Nate Man.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I wrote four songs.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, man, I know man, but you know
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: you're right, Like fifty second Street that don't get a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: lot of love.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: That album as a dynamite.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: And this day and age you would only know big shot, right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that's all you don't know. That's all you're gonna know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Or maybe my life, yes, ye you know my life whatever.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I used to say, so good, Yeah, it's good.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: See your guitar play right?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: No I sing?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Oh you sing?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I do play guitar, I play piano, I play an instruments.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: But but but I sing yeah yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Lead singer.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Ye, so what do you think about festivals? I mean,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: what makes it like fun for you? On fun like
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: say something like Coachello or whatever. I mean, I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: know if you ever done no Jello, but any festival, like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: say is it is it? Is it fun experience or
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: do you feel like it's more of like work.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I enjoy festivals. I enjoy Usually you're playing a condensed set.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It's a little shorter set. Right, there's a lot of bands,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you can see a lot of friends. I think the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: main thing really is like as an artist, just staying
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: off social media, because you know, you're talking about every
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: person's got a review they put up immediately of every
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: weird thing that like this thing sucked because there wasn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: enough water, or the prices are too high, or this
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: band sounds like shit or that, and it's just like
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: you can just be overrun with just opinions people that
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: aren't people that you would ever trust their opinion on
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: anything in real life, about like hey, what do we
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: get this food? Like everyone's gonna have a different opinion,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: like who cares? And but everyone's so ready to give
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: their opinion on things. I think if you just stay
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: away from that, you can go to festivals, have fun,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: play the show, the world goes on, nothing really matters,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna do the next one. So I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: was seeing something where that reminded me of this, because
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you know, bon Jovi had some vocal issues and he
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: just came back and he had there's like a little
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: tiff going online between him and Richie Sambora and the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: whole way the band's going. And you know, he just
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: came back after four years and he actually sounds pretty good,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: sounds really good. But every comment is somebody making a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: comment about not like it used to be. Oh, I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: can hear this. It's like these people don't like every comment,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and it's just it's like if they never brought this up,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you would have never known and this is not what
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: you'd be talking about. So to me, these kind of
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: micro like narratives that happen online, if you can just
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: stay away from all of it, you'll realize really quickly
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the world goes on and no one gives a fuck. Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and just and so I think, as an artist going
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to festivals, just go play the thing, have fun. It's cool,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it's great, have a good time. Don't read that, don't
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: read that, and also like, for me, if my voice
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: feels good and I feel energetic, and I feel like
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the audience is enjoying themselves, then I have a great time.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about anything else. Yeah, and we and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: we're a band that plays live still and so there's
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be really good nights and really bad nights, right
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and when when the whole world is moving more towards
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: backing tracks, vocals on track and everything's perfect every night? Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you can make your decision. Do you want that or
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: do you want right? Do you want something real, something
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: real and tangible? Right?
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, everybody's got an opinion, But it's like
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: who gives you you know, Yeah, it's just an opinion.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: It's an opinion, you know what I mean. It's like
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: it's like a review. You know what a review is.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: It's like toilet paper. That's your opinion, unless it's somebody
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you value and you go, wow, I really would like
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: to be validated by him, I mean, because I value
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: his opinion, so whether he likes it or not. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, but at the end of the day,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that's you know. Sometimes I'm like, I don't see what
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: you're seeing. My brother might tell me, hey, that's a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: great movie, and I'm like, I don't know what you're watching.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And then there are other times I go, wow, he
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: was right. This was not all the time. But you
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: know that's why I like, sometimes it's so subjective. Yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, everybody is like who cares?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's like you've been doing
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: it for real.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: The world goes You're not going to always knock it
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: out of the pall, now, you know what I mean.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the point. Yeah, you yeah, you're not
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: going to play great every night. But it's real.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: But it's real.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: It's not it's not you know, fake, it's not auto
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: tune or all that other shit and all these other gimmicks.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: It's like this guy's singing. Man, he's not lipsaching.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He's well, that's the thing. It's like it was at
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: first it started with singing, and then it started with
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: people putting their guitars on the tracks, and then it
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: started just everything. It's like this is a rock band
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and you're watching playback. People are just faking it up there.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing playback, like playack?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Why pay for all these people? Just have one guy
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and push a button. I mean, it's crazy, but it
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: You got a rask free voice? Is that is that
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: your Yeah?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Like it's a rock voice.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: It's a good.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: When you have shows, you do not like to speak
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really like talk too much most of
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: my tour right now, right, not to yet, but most
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of my days off I'll just be really quiet.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It's the talking that gets you in trouble because it
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: sets your voice up in a position that can't get up. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And so the more you talk, the more you're work.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: You're enough to do to get back into that other spot. Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So when I get on tour, I kind of like
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to come off stage, warm down and then keep that
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: position right, And so I don't talk much the day off,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and then I'll get ready right back into it the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: next day for tour. Right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: So you toured with Metallica one time, right or something
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Towards Metallica many times, Yeah, they used to. They've taken
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: us out since we were a baby band, and then
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the last time we did a tour with them was
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I think we did like a stadium run
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: with them. Is that fun. It's good. It's different. You know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: you're you're definitely not playing in front of your audience,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: which is a little tougher, and a lot of times,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you're playing these stadiums and it's you got
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to go on in the daylight, which is tough, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's hot, and you're like, okay, like it's tough. Yeap.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: People that think it's great to go out there, like
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I love the Metallica guys, it's grateful that they ever
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: took us out. But when you get out there, it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot harder than going on at
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: ten o'clock at night. Your audience, lights are down, your show.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: You're kind of in a no win situation.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: You're in a no win situation because people are just
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: kind of walking in. They're kind of like, oh, what
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: is this?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Like, I know, I saw this comedian that they performing
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: at a birthday party in the middle of the day, guys. Funny,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: but the middle of the day is one hundred degrees
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: July fourth, Poor guys. I was the only one giggling,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: and because I felt bad for the guy and he's good,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, you set up to fail, you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: it's tough.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: At least it's your audience. You know, it's your time.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: It's late at night, it's nighttime, in the middle of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the day. I mean to do that, you know what
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: It's it's best.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: So what's your shooting range from?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Man, I can shoot from anywhere. But I've been shooting
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: my whole life. And now that I have kids at play,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they get a lot of practicing, so I get a
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: lot of practicing. Yeah, and there's all these new tools.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Now it's just kind of fun. Like just a square
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: basketball at Paul GEORGIESUS and you like get your back
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: spin going down. Then there's balls that you connect to
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Wi Fi and I'll tell you your back spin, your arc,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: He'll tell you everything.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: You don't got a hoop back here? You need a hoop?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Not here? No, at my house idea.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna played a game of horse.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I was actually thinking about putting a half court in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: this warehouse at some point, but I was the only
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: one that wanted it, so I got out voted.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Do I get a voter as long as you.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Vote for me? Yeah? Do you vote for the basketball?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, what'd you think about the NBA?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Fun yeah, I absolutely watched them.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: You're happy for the Knicks? No, yeah, why so why
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: you're a Laker fan?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I am a Laker fan.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I'm also you're a basketball fan.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm a basketball fan.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I was a basketball fan. The Knicks have been around
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: a long time. I've suffered a long time.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, but I'm definitely not a fan of
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: New York. I'm a big fan. Well, I think some
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of their fans are insufferable. I think a lot of
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of their fans are insufferable. But
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I think the same way that New York thinks about
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: LA fans, right, Like a lot of our fans are insufferable.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: But to me, like the Spurs are an incredible team,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be a problem. I I really, I really
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: love Dylan Harper.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays like a man, unbelievable.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: And as a rookie getting in there, and I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Wenby's going to be a problem for people. We didn't
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have Luca this year, you know, obviously hurt for our playoffs,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: so that was tough. I'm a huge fan of basketball.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I just didn't think New York was as good of
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a team as the Spurs and then then they just
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: pulled it out.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: You're talking about talent, but you're not talking about the team.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about talent. I'm talking about being ahead seventy
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: percent of the series and losing.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I know, I know they can't close.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I know, I know it showed their youth, right, But
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think as a basketball team, that's a better team.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: It was the best team, there's no I mean, the
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: most talented team. One of the best team wins over
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the most talented.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I agree, it was. It was a hard pill to swallow.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodgers got out played, that's true, and then
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: they knew how to close.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: They how to finish the works in your favor and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: some of that's right.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: You got to know how to finish. I know, champions
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: know how to finish. His Nick team was a championship team.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I know why because they could finish. It's true, telling him, Matt,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I definitely have a lot.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: More respect for Jalen Brunson at this point. I mean,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I even as he made his way through the Eastern
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Conference in the last few years, Yeah, it was like
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it's good, but it's not enough to get over Yeah,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and this year it was I mean, he was game
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: four and five is ridiculous.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: He's ridiculous Iceman, I know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: And how about that other guy, the quiet guy is
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: hilarious O Gnobi.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Have you seen his responses? Yeah, he is amazing hysterically,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: it's amazing. Doesn't know it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I know, I know they like. That's why it's so funny.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I wanted to buy his sketches, you know, because I
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: wear sketches and they like sold out like that boom
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: the blue Ognobi's sketches.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I definitely enjoyed the Knicks. After they won it, I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: felt better for them than I did during it. During it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I was like, why can't these Spurs just finished game
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: like they're dominating everybody?
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Spurs Man, they won plenty of championships and no, they
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: don't have their chance they will have more.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Don't have their chance? You know what I mean? It
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: was the nixt time speaking of your team. What about
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Lebron you have.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm actually not a Lebron hater at all. I'm I
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not happy that he left. I'm not bummed. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: think it's time. It's fine.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's time he packs it in.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I think Lebron when Austin Reeves was out and Luca
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: was out, he played phenomenal at the end of the year.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Think he's got to take care of his body. He does.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I I'm interested to see where he goes. But and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I also am interested to see what we do. I mean,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: we we've got a lot of building to do. We've
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: had some amazing teams that we've gotten rid of, though,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: because we always try to win now. I mean, we
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: had Lonzo Ball, who I love. We had we had
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram, we had Julius Randall. We get rid of
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: everybody because our we don't want to develop anybody. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: don't mind being a team that we develop people for
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a while. I'm also a huge Timberwolves fan. My son
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: loves timber Wolves. I love Lamello Ball. I love that
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: he's going there with Anthony Edwards. They did get rid
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: of nasried and and Randall. But uh, with Mcganiels and Rudy,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be a great team too. So I just
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: love Dambia.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we listen. Maybe we'll go to a game again.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: That'd be awesome.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Do challenge any other guys play? No?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I mean whenever I play any I play any bands.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: So one thing we did every day we got falling
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: in reverse into pickleball, so we could play pickleball every
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: single day. Yeah, I play. It's a sports guy, golf, pickleball.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You play golf.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I do play golf. Yeah, I do play golf. You're
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: a good golf I shoot in the eighties. I'm not great,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: but you're a good athlete. I can play. But it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: sometimes being a good athlete hurts in golf because you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: try to do overcompensate and swing too hard and it's
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: really a finesse game.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: It is your opinion on golf. It's pooring.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like guys play it and they're like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you know, like it's so interesting.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Like I I was the same
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: way about soccer and this world. This World Cup really.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Got me in soccer, will never get me soccer.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: This world has been incredible.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Will never get me. I'll never say incredible. I'll never
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: say anything. I have no feeling. Like it's like.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: You tell me you put a woman in front of me. Guy,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I got no feeling.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: If you would have done this interview with me six
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: months ago. I would have been right on there with you,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: But soccer got me this time. What is it?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: What is? What is? What? What about? Soccer gets you?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful sport when you start really understanding it
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and some of the beautiful about it, the way it moves,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the way the pasting is, and just understanding how difficult
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: it is and the way it's it's it's actually a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: beautiful sport.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Well, I love baseball to deep deep love baseball because baseball's.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I think, I think life. I think baseball is a
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: beautiful sport as well, but it only gets interesting when
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it gets the playoffs. Not true. I think that's how
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I feel about it because there's too many games and
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: You don't love the game enough.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: No, I don't love the Game's I love basketball.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: You like basketball like your attention spans in basket, by
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the way, I don't care about it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Ball, Well, I'm making ball, but the good guy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But sports, but but soccer, we can say the same thing. Right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: It looks man, it looks like a bunch of guys
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: run around kicking a ball.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I just don't get it. I don't get it. We
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: can break any sport down listen, football, I get it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And football can be monotonous. It's based on war whatever,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: it's atrich you know, it's a violent game whatever. But
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: at least football I get it. But these guys run
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: aroun That's what it sounds like to me, And.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the god, that's kind of cool alright,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Like the goal.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about it. That's about it. Uniforms are weird.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Everything's weird about it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: There's some very unique things about Like I said, I'm
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: into it, so I'm gonna talented the other guy.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: It's like, I'd rather watch hockey, and that's a Canadian
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: sport I'd rather watch.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I got into some hockey. This yere into some ducks
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: games when you're in the playoffs?
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Hockey?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Is it fun? Yeah? Those are fun games. But but
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I think soccer, let me get end it with, this
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: is a beautiful sport. You know.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: You take me to a soccer game, maybe I become
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a soccer fan.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm there yet. I don't want
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: to go to a game.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, wrapping it up. What makes you happy, Matt,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: What what they live is happiness to you? What makes
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: you wake up in the morning. What gets you excited?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say the word my kids.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: My kids make me happy if they're happy. I love
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: watching their sports games. It's my favorite thing to do
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: with the weekends, like just all week in AAU basketball,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: It's like my favorite thing to do. I love taking
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: them to practice, and I love leading things that we
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: work really hard on, like whether it's a record, music video,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, like, as long as we put the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: work in and we feel like we're like we got
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: what we wanted, that makes me happy. But what about
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you me? Yeah,