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Season 2, Episode 7: When Faith Has to Keep Walking · The Whole Hearted Woman

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SPEAKER_00: Have you ever reached the point where you honestly don't know what else to do?
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SPEAKER_00: You've prayed, you've tried to fix it, you've asked for help, you've done everything you know to do, and the situation hasn't gotten better.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's even gotten worse.
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SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you've already brought something to Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: You've asked him, you've trusted him, you've believed he heard you, but while you're waiting, someone else gets their answer.
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SPEAKER_00: Someone else's door opens, someone else's child comes home, someone else's relationship is restored, someone else got pregnant, someone else gets the opportunity, someone else receives the healing, and you're standing there thinking, Jesus, weren't we on our way to my house?
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SPEAKER_00: There's a certain story in Mark 5 that brings both of those experiences together.
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SPEAKER_00: First, we have a woman who had been waiting 12 years, and we have a father who couldn't afford to wait another minute.
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SPEAKER_00: Two desperate situations, two very different people, two daughters.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus right in the middle of both stories.
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SPEAKER_00: And maybe this story has something to teach us about what faith actually looks like when we don't get to control what happens next.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Wholehearted Woman Podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm Chris Ray, and this is season two of the wholehearted life.
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SPEAKER_00: Learning to live from a heart formed by Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Throughout this season, we've been asking one central question: How does a wholehearted woman live?
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SPEAKER_00: Not a woman who has a ride because we're not there yet.
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SPEAKER_00: And not a woman who never struggles questions hurt or needs healing because we live on this earth.
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SPEAKER_00: But a woman who is learning to bring her whole heart to Jesus and about him to full the way she lives.
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SPEAKER_00: The way he does not.
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SPEAKER_00: We talked about him and trusting God when the answer doesn't come the way we hope.
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SPEAKER_00: We talked about Peter and what happens when life reveals something in us we didn't know was there.
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SPEAKER_00: We sat at the well with a superior woman and asked where our hearts go when we're thirsty.
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SPEAKER_00: We've sat with Mary and Martha and looked at what happens when all our doom becomes disconnected from receiving.
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SPEAKER_00: And last week, with Mary Magdalene, we asked whether some of the names we've continued answering to belong to a season Jesus has already brought us out of.
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SPEAKER_00: Today, we're going to meet two people whose stories become intertwined, and both of them are going to teach us something about faith.
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SPEAKER_00: One has to reach and one has to wait.
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SPEAKER_00: And eventually, one has to keep walking with Jesus after everything appears to have gone terribly wrong.
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SPEAKER_00: But before we go there, I want to pray for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Father, thank you for the woman listening today.
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SPEAKER_00: You know exactly where she is.
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SPEAKER_00: You know what she has been waiting for, you know what she's tried to fix, you know the places where she's tired, disappointed, afraid, or wondering what you're doing.
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SPEAKER_00: Holy Spirit, open our ears to hear what you want us to hear today.
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SPEAKER_00: Open our hearts to receive what you want to show us.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus, teach us what it means to trust you.
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SPEAKER_00: Not because we know how the story will end, but because we're learning to know you more.
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SPEAKER_00: Meet us in the places where we need to reach for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Meet us in the places where we're waiting, and meet us in the places where we're afraid.
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SPEAKER_00: Lead us gently today, Lord.
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SPEAKER_00: In Jesus' name, amen.
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SPEAKER_00: Mark V tells us that Jesus had crossed the Sea of Galilee and a large crowd had gathered around him.
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SPEAKER_00: And then a man named Gyrus comes.
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SPEAKER_00: Mark tells us Jairus is one of the rulers of the synagogue.
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SPEAKER_00: He's a man with a position.
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SPEAKER_00: He's got a name and a place in his community, but none of those things can help him right now.
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SPEAKER_00: His little girl is dying, and Gyrus falls at Jesus' feet.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want you to notice that because sometimes life has a way of bringing all of us to the same place.
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SPEAKER_00: Your title doesn't matter there.
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SPEAKER_00: Your education doesn't matter there.
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SPEAKER_00: How capable you are doesn't matter there.
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SPEAKER_00: How many people depend upon you doesn't matter there.
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SPEAKER_00: How long you've been a Christian doesn't matter there.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we reach a place where all we know is Jesus, I need you.
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SPEAKER_00: And Gyrus begs him, come to my house, lay your hands on my daughter, let her live.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus immediately goes with him.
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SPEAKER_00: But then Mark introduces us to someone else.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't know her name.
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SPEAKER_00: We're simply told she has been suffering from a discharge of blood for 12 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Think of that.
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SPEAKER_00: 12 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Mark says she had suffered greatly under many physicians.
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SPEAKER_00: She had spent everything she had.
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SPEAKER_00: And rather than getting better, she got worse.
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SPEAKER_00: And then Mark gives us a little phrase that changes the direction of her story.
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SPEAKER_00: She had heard about Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Something she heard about Jesus caused something to rise in her.
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SPEAKER_00: She says to herself, if I can just touch his garments, I will be made well.
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SPEAKER_00: And she moves through the crowd.
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SPEAKER_00: She comes up behind Jesus and she reaches.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to stop there because I think there's something important for us.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus is surrounded by people.
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SPEAKER_00: Mark says the crowd is pressing around him.
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SPEAKER_00: People are physically close to Jesus everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: But this woman does something different.
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SPEAKER_00: She reaches for him.
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SPEAKER_00: And I wonder if there's a question here for us.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it possible to spend a lot of our lives around Jesus without bringing certain places of our hearts to Jesus?
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SPEAKER_00: We can go to church, we can listen to sermons, read scripture, we serve, we pray, we listen to Christian podcasts, know the language, know the music, and still have places where we've quietly decided, oh, I'll handle this one, or oh, I should be over that by now, or I shouldn't still need help with this, or maybe I've already tried everything, nothing's gonna help.
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SPEAKER_00: But this woman had tried everything she knew to do, and when she heard about Jesus, she reached.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a difference between being around Jesus and reaching for him.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to be careful here because this passage has sometimes been used in ways that can leave hurting people believing, if I just had enough faith, God would give me the outcome I want.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't believe that's what this story gives us permission to say.
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SPEAKER_00: Remember, Hannah, faith didn't mean Hannah could control the outcome.
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SPEAKER_00: And faith here isn't a spiritual force this woman generates strongly enough to make Jesus perform his miracle.
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SPEAKER_00: Her faith has an object, Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Her faith isn't faith in faith.
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SPEAKER_00: Her faith is in him.
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SPEAKER_00: The power doesn't originate in her ability to believe strongly enough.
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SPEAKER_00: The power is in Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith is what moves her toward him.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's something we've said before this season.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith isn't my ability to make something happen.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith is my response to the one I have come to know and that I trust.
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SPEAKER_00: For Hannah, faith meant surrendering an outcome.
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SPEAKER_00: And for this woman, faith meant doing something.
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SPEAKER_00: It meant reaching.
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SPEAKER_00: Different circumstances, same posture.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus, I trust you with what I cannot do for myself.
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SPEAKER_00: This is where her story touches something at the very heart of the wholehearted woman.
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SPEAKER_00: This woman has needed healing for 12 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Her need does not disqualify her.
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SPEAKER_00: Her struggle is not evidence that she has failed spiritually.
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SPEAKER_00: In fact, her need becomes the very place from which she reaches toward Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want somebody listening to this to hear needing healing is not a failure of faith.
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SPEAKER_00: I say it over and over again.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes faith looks like finally admitting I can't make myself whole.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't fix this by pretending it doesn't hurt.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't think my way out of every wound.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't control every outcome.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't keep carrying everything all by myself.
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SPEAKER_00: I need Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: This woman didn't make herself well so she could approach Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: She approached Jesus because she believed he could give her what she could not give, nor the doctors or anyone else could give herself.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that's where healing begins.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's another layer to this story that we need to understand.
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SPEAKER_00: Under the purity laws given to Israel in Leviticus, a prolonged discharge of blood placed a person in a state of ritual impurity.
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SPEAKER_00: And I want to make an important distinction.
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SPEAKER_00: Unclean did not mean sinful.
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SPEAKER_00: Her medical condition was not a moral failure.
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SPEAKER_00: God's laws concerning purity were part of Israel's covenant life and worship.
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SPEAKER_00: And God's law itself contains beautiful provisions for vulnerable people, the poor, the foreigner, the widow, the orphan.
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SPEAKER_00: God's holiness and God's love were never supposed to be enemies.
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SPEAKER_00: Although the law could identify and regulate uncleanness, it couldn't heal this woman.
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SPEAKER_00: And now Jesus is walking through the crowd.
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SPEAKER_00: She reaches him, she touches him, and something remarkable happens.
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SPEAKER_00: Her condition does not overcome him.
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SPEAKER_00: His power makes her well.
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SPEAKER_00: And later in this same story, Jesus will take a dead child by the hand.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, death does not overcome him.
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SPEAKER_00: His life overcomes death.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus didn't come to lower God's standard of holiness.
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SPEAKER_00: He came carrying a holiness powerful enough to make the unclean clean, a love strong enough to move toward those things others might move away from, and a life powerful enough to overcome death.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus was not afraid of what was broken in people.
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SPEAKER_00: Mark tells us that the moment she touches Jesus, the bleeding stops.
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SPEAKER_00: She knows something has happened in her body.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus knows something has happened too.
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SPEAKER_00: He perceives that power has gone out from him and he stops and he asks, Who touched my garments?
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SPEAKER_00: The disciples almost can't believe the question.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus, look around.
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SPEAKER_00: Everyone is touching you.
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SPEAKER_00: The crowd is pressing against you.
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SPEAKER_00: But Jesus knows this touch was different.
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SPEAKER_00: And eventually the woman realizes she isn't hidden.
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SPEAKER_00: She comes forward in fear and trembling and falls at his feet.
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SPEAKER_00: And Mark says something I love.
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SPEAKER_00: She tells him the whole truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Now Mark isn't telling us that she recounted every wound or every secret of her life.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't need to make the text say something it doesn't.
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SPEAKER_00: Luke tells us she explained before everyone why she had touched Jesus and how she had been healed.
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SPEAKER_00: But I love Mark's phrase, the whole truth.
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SPEAKER_00: She comes trembling.
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SPEAKER_00: She tells him what happened.
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SPEAKER_00: And I wonder how many of us are afraid of what Jesus might say if we told him the whole truth about what's happening inside us.
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SPEAKER_00: The disappointment, the anger, the jealousy, the exhaustion, the fear, the doubt, the thing we're ashamed to admit, the thing we've prayed about 50 times and still don't understand, the thing we think a good Christian woman shouldn't feel.
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SPEAKER_00: What would happen if we stopped editing ourselves before we come to Jesus?
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SPEAKER_00: Not because he needs information, he already knows, but because relationship requires honesty and a dialogue.
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SPEAKER_00: And then Jesus speaks, and his first word to her is daughter.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't rush past that.
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SPEAKER_00: We never learn this woman's name, but we know what Jesus called her, daughter.
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SPEAKER_00: The condition that had shaped 12 years of her life was not the name Jesus used when he spoke to her.
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SPEAKER_00: Last week we stood outside the empty tomb with Mary Magdalene.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus said, Mary.
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SPEAKER_00: And now another woman stands before him trembling, and Jesus says, daughter.
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SPEAKER_00: Her condition was real, her suffering was real, her history was real, but none of those things became the name Jesus used for her.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he says, Your faith has made you well.
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SPEAKER_00: Go in peace.
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SPEAKER_00: Her faith had reached for Jesus privately, and Jesus acknowledged that faith publicly.
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SPEAKER_00: She reached for healing and Jesus gave her an encounter.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is where the story becomes almost painfully human because while Jesus is speaking to this woman, Gyrus is still there.
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SPEAKER_00: Remember where Jesus was going to Jairus' house.
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SPEAKER_00: His little girl is dying and Jesus has stopped.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't know what Jairus was thinking.
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SPEAKER_00: Scripture doesn't tell us.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't want to put emotions into him that the text doesn't give us, but we can feel the tension Mark creates.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus has stopped for someone else.
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SPEAKER_00: This woman has waited 12 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Jairus doesn't want to wait another minute.
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SPEAKER_00: And while Jesus is still speaking, people arrive from Jairus's house and they say, Your daughter is dead.
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SPEAKER_00: Why trouble the teacher any further?
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SPEAKER_00: Think about the timing.
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SPEAKER_00: Jairus has just watched another person receive her answer.
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SPEAKER_00: He has just heard Jesus say, Your fate has made you well, and now he receives the news.
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SPEAKER_00: He came to Jesus hoping he would never receive his daughter is dead.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you ever been there?
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying Jairus was jealous.
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SPEAKER_00: Scripture doesn't say that.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm asking about us.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm saying let's get real.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you ever been waiting for Jesus while watching someone else receive what you've been praying for?
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SPEAKER_00: Someone else gets pregnant, someone else's marriage changes, someone else's child comes home, someone else's ministry grows, someone else gets the opportunity, someone else receives healing, and you're genuinely happy for them.
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SPEAKER_00: But somewhere underneath that happiness is another question.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus, what about me?
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SPEAKER_00: That's a hard place to be in, and I want to tell you something I've had to learn.
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SPEAKER_00: Someone else's testimony is not evidence that Jesus has forgotten your story.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus stopping for this woman did not mean he had abandoned Gyrus.
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SPEAKER_00: But Gyrus didn't know how the story would end yet.
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SPEAKER_00: We do, but he didn't.
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SPEAKER_00: That's one of the things we keep discovering this season.
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SPEAKER_00: We read these stories backward.
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SPEAKER_00: They had to live them forward.
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SPEAKER_00: And Jesus turns to Jairus and says, Don't fear, only believe.
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SPEAKER_00: Luke records, don't fear, only believe, and she will be well.
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SPEAKER_00: Notice Jairus doesn't ask Jairus to pretend nothing has happened.
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SPEAKER_00: The news is real.
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SPEAKER_00: His daughter is dead.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith does not require us to deny reality.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith doesn't require me to deny what I see.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith determines where I turn with what I see.
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SPEAKER_00: Jairus had faith enough to come to Jesus when his daughter was dying.
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SPEAKER_00: Now he has to keep walking with Jesus when everything appears to be over.
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SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's where somebody listening is today.
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SPEAKER_00: You've reached, you've prayed, you've believed, you started walking with Jesus, and then something has changed.
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SPEAKER_00: The diagnosis came, the relationship ended, the door closed, the person said no, the situation got worse.
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SPEAKER_00: And now faith looks very different than it did when you started.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes faith reaches for Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes faith waits while Jesus appears to be doing something you don't understand.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes faith simply keeps walking with him after the news changes.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus arrives at Jairus' house.
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SPEAKER_00: People are weeping.
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SPEAKER_00: The girl has died.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus goes inside, and Mark tells us he takes her by the hand.
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SPEAKER_00: Think about that after everything we've just discussed.
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SPEAKER_00: First, a woman who's bleeding has placed her in a state of ritual impurity and she reaches out and touches Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Now Jesus reaches out and touches a dead child.
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SPEAKER_00: Neither impurity nor death defeats him.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus takes her hand and says, Taletha Kumi, little girl, I say to you, arise.
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SPEAKER_00: And she gets up.
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SPEAKER_00: She's 12 years old.
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SPEAKER_00: The woman had been suffering for 12 years.
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SPEAKER_00: One daughter had experienced 12 years of life.
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SPEAKER_00: Another daughter had experienced 12 years of suffering.
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SPEAKER_00: One was called daughter by her father.
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SPEAKER_00: The other was called daughter by Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's something I can't get away from.
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SPEAKER_00: One daughter reached for Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: And when the other daughter couldn't reach for him at all, Jesus reached for her.
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SPEAKER_00: That keeps us from making this story ultimately about the strength of human faith.
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SPEAKER_00: Because that little girl isn't exercising faith.
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SPEAKER_00: She can't.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus takes her hand.
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SPEAKER_00: The hero of this story is Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith matters.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus explicitly says it matters, but faith is not the savior.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus is.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe wholehearted faith isn't certainty about how everything will turn out.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's learning where to turn when we don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're the woman in the crowd today.
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SPEAKER_00: You've tried everything you know to do.
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SPEAKER_00: You're tired.
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SPEAKER_00: Something in your life still needs healing.
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SPEAKER_00: Reach for him.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're gyrus.
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SPEAKER_00: You've already brought the situation to Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: You've already asked.
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SPEAKER_00: And now you're waiting while circumstances seem to be getting worse or moving in the wrong direction.
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SPEAKER_00: Keep walking with him.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're afraid to say what's actually happening inside of you.
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SPEAKER_00: Tell him the whole truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you've been interpreting your need for healing as evidence that you're somehow failing God.
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SPEAKER_00: But remember this woman.
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SPEAKER_00: Her need for healing did not disqualify her from faith.
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SPEAKER_00: Her need became the place from which faith reached toward Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're watching someone else receive what you've been praying for.
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SPEAKER_00: Their testimony is an evidence that Jesus has forgotten your story.
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SPEAKER_00: Stay with him.
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SPEAKER_00: And maybe you don't have enough strength to reach today.
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SPEAKER_00: Then remember the other daughter.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus knows how to reach for us too.
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SPEAKER_00: So here's your wholehearted step this week.
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SPEAKER_00: I want you to find a quiet place with Jesus and ask yourself, where am I in this story right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Am I reaching or am I waiting?
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SPEAKER_00: Am I trying to keep trusting because something has gotten worse?
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SPEAKER_00: Then tell Jesus the whole truth.
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SPEAKER_00: You might simply pray, Jesus, this is what's happening.
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SPEAKER_00: This is what I want.
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SPEAKER_00: This is what I'm afraid of.
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SPEAKER_00: This is where I'm struggling to trust you.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is the part I can't fix myself.
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SPEAKER_00: Show me what it looks like to reach for you here and then stay with him, walk with him.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have to manufacture an answer and you don't have to force yourself to feel something.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have to pretend you're not afraid.
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SPEAKER_00: Just remain.
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SPEAKER_00: Because faith isn't pretending we know how the story will end.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith is continuing to entrust our story to Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'd like to end in prayer.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus, thank you that you are not afraid of our need.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you that we don't have to become whole before we come to you.
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SPEAKER_00: For the woman listening who has been carrying something for a very long time, give her courage to reach for you again.
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SPEAKER_00: For the woman who is waiting, remind her that someone else's answer does not mean you've forgotten her.
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SPEAKER_00: For the woman who has received news she never wanted to hear in the midst of asking you for help, meet her in the fear and help her keep walking with you one step at a time.
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SPEAKER_00: And for the woman who doesn't even have the strength to reach for you today, Jesus, reach for her.
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SPEAKER_00: Teach us to bring you the whole truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Teach us to trust you without trying to control you.
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SPEAKER_00: Teach us to recognize that the power has never been in our ability to believe perfectly.
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SPEAKER_00: The power is in you.
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SPEAKER_00: Continue forming our hearts, Lord, into hearts that reach for you, wait for you, walk with you, and trust you.
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SPEAKER_00: In Jesus' name, amen.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe today you're the woman in the crowd.
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SPEAKER_00: Reach for him.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you're Jairus.
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SPEAKER_00: Keep walking with him.
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SPEAKER_00: And maybe you're the little girl who can't reach at all.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus knows how to reach for you.
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SPEAKER_00: One daughter reached for him, and another daughter was reached by him.
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SPEAKER_00: And through both stories, we discovered the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: The power was never in their ability to control the outcome.
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SPEAKER_00: The power was always in Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: And remember, you are safe, you are deeply loved, and the shepherd is still speaking.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll see you next time.