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A Hurricane Force Collapse · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to be boundary Corner podcast, along with Brian
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seagull. I am Curtis Wilson, Brian.
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How are you tonight? Big guy.
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I don't know how I am. I'm still kind of feeling things
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out, but I know that breaker Nelson has a puckered asshole.
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Yes, Thursday night. It rang.
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True all day. Today, Hokies fall 2524 to
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Miami. I hate being right tonight.
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I wanted to be proven wrong but you know, it's it's one of the
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things, I don't let it ruin my day.
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Yeah. Liberty game.
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You didn't ruin my day after after the loss.
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Did a couple things for my wife in the house and then took the
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boys out and we were riding bikes and throwing Frisbees and,
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you know, kicking balls around and neighbors came up with their
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kids kids played One minute into the fourth quarter, my PS5
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arrived. So I had plenty to occupy my
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time. Once the game was over, all
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right, were you angry that like I'm saying that like I was mad
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seeing this sucks. We lost but I was initially
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angry and it was more because of like this is this is the shit
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that we've come to expect week in week out.
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It's like the one thing that we can't expect everyone.
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Week is some degree of inconsistent inconsistency,
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whether it's on the offensive side, the defensive side
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occasionally, some snafus on special teams, which are usually
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isolated to just bad decisions by players.
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But yeah, man, it's, I was initially upset about that
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coming off what we saw last week with Liberty, like, it just felt
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like You know, another example of snatching defeat from the
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jaws of Victory with this one. Coaching coaching our way out of
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a win. Yeah, not knowing long suit, so
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many different things you can say about the last two weeks.
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Let's talk about boast of that fourth quarter first, and we'll
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get to the I'll finish with the, in the last Drive, which just
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pulled away. Say no, you said the end there
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were two damn drives. That's what I'm saying.
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Like, I'm getting the subsequent, two to three drives.
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That kind of closed out this game where we were, you know,
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you go for you go from driving to potentially going back up,
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two scores to being down, then turning the ball over then,
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getting it back with two minutes left and the shittiest
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two-minute drill. I've seen ever maybe in my
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entire life, but it's definitely up there if it's not the worst.
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So you get the all you got two minutes, you get a pretty quick
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first down and then you, it was like four plays took sixty five
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seconds when you did it was, no, what am I said?
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Ron those games, we were down multiple scores.
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First up tonight, everybody knew fucking urgency and you're
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sitting here men lesson two. It's just like 149, I think is
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when we snapped the first down and you're like, go go, you
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should automatically have the play you want in and go get,
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everybody sitting there like check realigning the protection
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and having a check with me after the false start snap and you let
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15 seconds run off the clock. I was seventeen, Seventeen.
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I think it was 17 or 18. You say 15?
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I was like, Snap It. Snap, it snap it.
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Whoa, what are you doing? Snap it but no urgency like this
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is the game. Was they were giving middle of
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the field. Those last few plays.
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And I sat there, I saw some people tweet about and I thought
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to myself shit at least you don't want to 15 yard play, go
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up there. Spiking have two seconds at
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least a fucking chance to throw it to the end zone.
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Chance to throw to the end zone. I mean chance to take a really
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long if we too got it to where it was under a 60-yard field
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goal, fuck it, roll them out there and see what he can do.
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But nah, we had no urgency was just kind of like okay we got
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this, we got this you won't talk about the two-minute drop the
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four-minute one is the one that just boggled my freaking mind
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with the interception. Yeah, we We get we can run our
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normal often, we don't need to go deep.
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We don't need to go hurry up. We were eating their lunch in
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the eat intermediate game. Completely eating their lunch.
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Oh no. What a genius Ossie decide to
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run. Let's Take a Shot guys, why not?
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And it looked like it was some sort of option route and it
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looked like hooker was trying to take what?
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Thought he was going to take him up.
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The up, the sideline further and Kayla Smith ran a skinny post
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and it was just Oh, she wrote man.
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But again it's it's not necessarily it's the timing of
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the play of when it was its four minutes left.
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And your defense has believe it or not, you know, we'll get to
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the defense in a while defense. Believe it or not, make made a
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stop or two. There was a late Drive, Brian.
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And I texted you this third and 15 and, you know, couple bad
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things have happened, but third and 15.
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It was essentially the food, the tenure of the Fuente, a
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definition, third, and 15 hint, and dry.
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Like the Dropbox looks good. The protection looks good and
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you can see the rights of developing nicely.
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It one of the camera angles what does he do?
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He fucking slips and goes lips and for me that's the definition
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of the Valenti are right there. It looks good.
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Well you drew it up. It looks nice.
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On a sudden, you fell flat on your fucking face.
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Yes. Metaphorically speaking.
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Fell on your knee, literally speaking literally on your knee
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and you had Punt the ball and that's the one that got me
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because also on that drive the big play before because I think
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it was second and six or second and five big loss is the way
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hand and looked. It looked like you know that
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post wheel combo we like to run. Yep.
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Look that and it made him to stay back there.
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And when I looked at it, He missed an easy little underneath
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drink. There was when they showed him
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going down to that knee. Or when they showed that play,
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they showed a guy coming. Not the third and 15 years to
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come up with the play before that.
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And I'm looking, I'm like if he sees that guy it's a first down
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and we keep driving but we won't do easy things, right?
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Let's hit a couple other points here.
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Obviously, the last drives are really in our memory.
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Brian, I know one guy that It has really not been on.
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His game is looped annuda. Yeah, I was, I was watching him
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today. If I mean Phillips was eating
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his lunch all day, man, Phil's was eating his lunch and me we
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can give props to DARE. Assad aerosol hairbrush or less.
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Took out. Quincy Roche is having any
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impact on the defense, but on the other side Luke was just she
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was struggling man. And you know, we had talked
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about it a couple times before this.
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I mean Luke hasn't really looked like himself since he's returned
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from his a couple game absence from covid.
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Yeah. So I'm not sure if that's just,
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that's still pulling on him there, but when he's been out
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there, he's just he's struggling.
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Specially on with with the speed rush man.
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Guys it can turn on the Jets and run the hoop, he's really
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struggled against and he gave up a.
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But what about three sacks tonight?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
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It's nighttime. Now it was today when the game
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is really, it's true. He gave up the sax.
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He had a couple nice pops. Open some holes in the Run game
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but overall he just hasn't looked right?
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It's and I don't know if it's conditioning or something like
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that, but it goes back. That goes back to some of the
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things we're going to discuss as we get along.
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We know, verify, if likes to rotate guys, he likes everybody
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to be able to be raised, you're playing through Rishon, but when
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he's looking that bad you have to lug nuts to play.
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We know that I can hold his own right.
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Yeah. And in these kinds of
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situations, if the game is 4221 and we're beating the living
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shit out of them or they're beating the living shit out of
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us. Yeah, let him stay in there and
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get his Oops, in this case, no within the liability right now,
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there's close enough of a margin of error where if we can get the
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right guy in there, just to hold another second or second and a
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half, in a lot of cases, you're talking about the difference
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between a sack and a potential, big play true.
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You can go a couple of a couple times, your Phillips got around
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the edge and just before henin, was about to Let It Go.
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All of a sudden he's got to deal with them.
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A guy in his face and having to fight off a sack.
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So we saw that a lot tonight guys.
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And you know it's when you talk about a 1-point game those are
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the type of plays that could have potentially one of the
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thing for you. So I don't I don't know what to
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say here. Let's talk about him a hooker
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while we're here. Yeah, he played a pretty
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efficient game but some of that, that late turnover and a couple
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decisions kind of, I think Martin otherwise pretty darn,
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good day for him, I agree. Like yeah, he the intermediate
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game was working, he was very accurate in that.
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I mean, you know, you take a look at him in the day, you
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know, 2002 through the air, 70 percent completion.
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I came for 29, He had another 59 on the ground with 21 carries
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that is not obviously not a good average and its really bad.
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Brian 53 of the 59 came on the touchdown care.
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Yeah, do the math. That's like that's not.
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That's a barely a quarter of your yard.
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I carry out. They were they were ready to
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stop the, the leads and the powers, and they also sacked
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him. So, I mean, if you're doing
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those two things, I mean other than the one, the one big run
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where he was able to get to the second level and once he was at
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the second level he made them pay but he could not get to the
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second level most of the night. Hi.
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Um let's let's I'm gonna hold off because the inconsistency of
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the play calls I want to hit later because what I'm going to
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talk about and you all mr. Hooker Hooker had an OK game,
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you know hooker did not lose this this game.
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No. I mean I don't know what
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happened. With it.
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I don't know what happened on the pick with Caleb Smith.
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I know he had one ball where he just need to put a little bit
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more air. Yeah, we played an okay game, he
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put us in the positions time and time again.
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Let's flip to him, we talked about Thursday night juice,
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Herbert would be a big key. I want to look at all three of
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the running backs that we primarily play.
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Okay. First of all, I think we kind of
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know, the deal with juice the hammy being banged up, he was
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out there. Probably 35 percent of the time
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of the snaps, although they didn't run him out there on the
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first series, he looked. Okay, to me, it looked like if
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you told me he had 20 carries today, He probably would have
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had 80 yards. He didn't have the gear to get
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away. Where we've seen.
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There were times he got into Poland, where we'd see him go.
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He was getting tackled 8 to 12 yards down the field.
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And, I mean, you know, we take a look at, you know, juices
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numbers today, you know, 84 49 Six yards, a carry his longest
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was 13 so he was he was fine. He was still effective despite
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not having the extra gear, do kind of burst and turn.
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Those good plays in the great place, it's true.
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But again it goes back to what we're we talk about what they're
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seeing in Luke, we've talked about a couple things where
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they're seeing it practice. Okay, if he looks like he can do
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that, the game plan should be like, we're going to have to
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play Drive the ball. We can expect home runs
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intermediate routes. Even it when they see it that
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he's not breaking. The big one, they might come up
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a little bit more, do we? Maybe take shots, but we didn't.
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Now is this a medical staff since you're like?
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We've had so many guys that like look like they're clear.
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And then they don't play well. And then guys that report today
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and he didn't play. Yeah.
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I just I don't know what's going on with that.
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Like if guys are cleared to play they should play.
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And if guys aren't cleared good enough to play, they should not
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play this like fully dressed but just sit on the sidelines.
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Bullshit, just confuses the hell out of me, man.
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Well confuses you and makes you mad because it's like if he's
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not ready you know you need to just have him completely sit
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out, your ask them to get dressed, go through warm-ups and
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everything like no, I'll even do that.
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Well, as an element of surprise, you should about the element of
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surprise. Prize if he would cure will be
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on that, we're not playing for a whole lot right now.
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Fuck the element of surprise do the right thing.
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Again folks, as Brian said if you're in the car with your
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kids, earmuffs earmuffs the whole time.
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If they've got the, if they've got the headphones with the
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headphones on, Daddy's going to listen to his show.
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And if you're going to take the headphones off, you need to say,
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Dad, really like about yourself. Speak Your Truth.
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Okay, running back today, finally, we see Jalen whole
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crew. Get out.
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Jalen gets to touch down. 36 yards on four, carries to
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receiving to me to receiving for 11 yards of 47 total yards and
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use. You saw today, in my opinion.
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And I don't know what he was going through again.
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It's the medical staff again, not on the injury report.
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He's been out there doing some kick returns.
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Why hasn't he been truly utilized as a true spell?
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Because he is literally he is the version of her bird that
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doesn't have the fifth gear. Yeah.
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Wow. He's got much better Vision than
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Blackshear between the tackles. He got the block.
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Well, so like I just don't I don't get why he wasn't Spill
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back number one from day one, because that would have done two
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things that would have been less of a drop-off when Herbert has
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to come off the field. Number two, you actually utilize
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rain Blackshear, the way he needs to be utilized as an
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offensive weapon, or a slot receiver, and not as a spell
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back or change of pace back. True, and you keep it moving,
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man. Again, it goes.
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It's like the preparations that we go into games.
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We don't know what the fuck were doing now.
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Now, I look back to something that I said, like, after
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Blackshear got his waiver and there was that press conference
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with with Foo and talked about, you know, I hope you're ready.
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Coaching staff. You have done.
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Nothing to help this man, out to get him to plays that.
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He needs to be successful. It's like, I didn't watch the
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tape of the guy. You brought in?
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No, not at all. Or if you did, you said All
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right. Well, he did that.
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Well, but we're going to fucking square peg in a round hole that
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sumbitch. Exactly.
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At least today, they did put it back at punt return, where he
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got the majority of his yard when he ended up getting a big
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21-yard return, essentially flip the field for us.
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Although we go down, we kick the field goal down that which just
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annoys you because you're like with the 49-yard line, let's get
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it and go. And there are a couple times, I
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give him Credit in. I saw people on social media
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say, oh well why didn't you just catch that?
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You can't let that roll some of those punch?
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You can see we're coming in funky.
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Yeah. Hot returner a good to grow pot.
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Return will not try to catch those because they know only one
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thing can happen if it's bad. I mean it's a damned if you do
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damned if you don't situation because we're coming off a week.
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We're a big play like that on special teams, cost us a
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touchdown in a one score loss and I'm sure some of that was in
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the back of his mind. It being the first week where
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he's been tabbed to be the guy back there, you know, you say,
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you got to play whatever. That's obviously in his head.
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I mean, it's not an excuse but it's definitely a reason.
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And when you see a ball coming in like that, you're like, we're
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still in a position where we can win this game.
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I'm not going to lose us this game in one play.
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It's very true. It's very true.
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And again, a couple of those you can just see when they came off
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and guess what, they didn't look right, if it doesn't look right,
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don't try to get it, especially there if the coverage is closing
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and good now, by all means you got 15 yards take a risk.
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Well, I mean the style of the kick is Because they hold it
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long. It's a rugby style.
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It's not, it's not a hanger. It's very low in line drive and
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those take weird bounces. So nothing about it is
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predictable very, very true. All right, all right, so finally
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brine, my prayer was answered, my prayer was answered today.
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We get a third and short situation, and we finally bring
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in Quincy Patterson. We did it one time and one time
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it converted, but we only did it once and I just don't get it.
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There were some times today where, you know, third and five
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third and say you know what, if you're in a position where you
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think you're going to go for it. Screw it.
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Put them in the washing, you ran quarterback power and
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quarterback lead on several, third and 7 and third and sixes
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anyway. Why not?
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Put the fucking battering ram in there to do it?
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Yeah. Those third and sages and third
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and sevens folks. I wish some of you could see the
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text chain. When those happen, it's usually
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being brighter. Like we'll probably going for it
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here, right. Braun was like, yeah, 55 yard
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field goal. You just Basically went for
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quarterback lead on Third, and six or third and seven is like a
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couple times. It's like we ran it on.
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Plus h we have punished just like, what are we doing?
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It doesn't make any sense. That's see that on Third and
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long, I'm saying, oh, the coordinator is telling me that
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we're going for it on fourth down.
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Yeah, that's what I thought that's.
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That is what I read when I see someone make that That call and
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then consistently not doing that is mind-boggling.
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You after they ran that they kicked a long-ass field goal one
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time and then they punted the second time now.
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Thankfully our punter ended up backing him up deep, I think
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that was the one that ended up getting down at the five yard
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line and the defense held got a three and out.
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But still I mean that's that's a situation where you can
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potentially get try to get some points by being aggressive.
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Civ and trying to get the first down and you call.
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What I consider a passive third-down call and then don't
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go aggressive on forth. Like you can't go passive on
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third if you're not going for it on fourth or if it's as it's
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basically non-logical play-calling like we are one
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would do that. Also your guy that has
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consistently been able to pull that shit off is Khalil.
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Herbert is not on the field in those situations.
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What happened today was a today was a inconsistency of the play
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called. It was the perfect day.
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Where I swear to God, Brian, I think Justin Fuente was keeping
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a square. I think the Wednesday was
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calling some of those drives and I think he 120 130
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Go back and look at that drive folk.
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If you record it or when it shows up.
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That doesn't look like a bread cord, Nielsen Drive.
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There were other drives today with some of the past Concepts.
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Some of the things that I just saw the hooker touchdown on a
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sec Network where it's Trey. Come take Turner tape Robinson,
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excuse me, not Trey Turner. Comes motions behind then
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essentially gets on the left side of hinden runs.
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A jet fake. And essentially Hendon let's run
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go up. There were times we did that on
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the next round. We did nothing.
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Of that. I have.
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No but my conspiracy theory is Justin.
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Fuente is basically proven his friend is a terrible play call
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or by calling opposites and Essentially losing us again.
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Why like, plays like that, I'll tell you why, because what they
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do is that they give the defense a different look.
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Even when you're running a play that you run, 10 or 12 times
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again, right? It's true.
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So it, I mean, it's essentially a quarterback power, right?
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But the window dressing, makes it look different than the jet
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in motion or the fake outside Zone in the inverted, beer,
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right? So it looks different but it's
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the same thing that we've been seeing.
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So Other piece of you're making people for just a tenth of a
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second, have to wait. Unless they truly trust their
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renal, it's going to be quarterback power.
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But if you read it as quarterback power and he stepped
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and he handed it off and you stepped inside, run your guard.
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I'm sure you'd love to see linebacker step inside when it's
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going to be something going outside because you get to get
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to that second level. And put them there is doing
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The inside power before. Don't care.
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You've got to wait, you've got to wait and let the play
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develop. Yep.
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Card quarterback power. Getting eight yards, is a hell
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of a lot better than getting 50 the other way.
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And the other thing I didn't like about it, we saw in motion.
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And I don't think any time today, didn't we pass out of it,
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but that's a setup, because if you run that, and you have hand,
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and take that one step 4, Well, the linebackers are sucking up,
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so you're going to have nice, intermediate crossers like Kayla
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Smith called a beauty that 30-yard passed away.
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He called was beautiful. Yes, across that, that, that
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that 15-yard Crossing route, but it starts opening things up.
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So, you know, it's the same old thing today was different
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because there were some drives that look and is this bad?
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I'm gonna say this Prime. There were droughts today to
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look professional. Hey, Pretty much all three of
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our scoring drives where we got touchdowns looked one way or
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something that you would want to see there was consistency.
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There was seemed like a sequence that made sense most of the
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execution was there. And then, you know, we had a
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handful that just looked like we were lost and then a handful
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where it felt like the coordinator crossed the 50 and
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just Again, just forgets what to do.
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Ya like we're one of those teams that Because we have some really
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good play designs. Because we have really good play
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designs. I'm trying to figure out how
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Oregon state scored. You see if touchdown pop up in
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like they didn't have the ball. The last time I saw it really
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good play designs that even when they aren't perfectly executed
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they get positive. Yardage the most prominent today
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was that Jet Sweep late in the game second and ten go through
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my notebook here because when I saw it wrong it was a really
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good play. We ran it was second and 10.
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Think we had taken a intermediate shot, missed it,
28:02
but we run a Jet Sweep short side.
28:06
The linebackers have to do with they.
28:07
Do they stay home now. They eventually flow out.
28:10
They get in five yards, downfield.
28:12
It was one of those plays where it was set up to say, we're
28:14
going to be second and five or second.
28:17
And for the unit, they grew up in miss it, we're gonna have a
28:20
big game. That's what irritates me is.
28:25
When, you know, okay, we just need Day, you need to find the
28:28
play. That is going to get you in a
28:30
position to convert. In the next play, we didn't get
28:36
it. But you saw the setup happen and
28:40
that's what I get more and more angry about.
28:42
Yeah. It's like that one was kind of
28:44
on, you know, sometimes you just either.
28:48
Don't execute and sometimes defense just plays well, I mean,
28:53
sometimes you got to give it, give them credit.
28:54
They, they have the right call to stop what you call, it wasn't
28:57
necessarily a bad call. But yeah, you know, here you
29:00
are. But we had some drives that
29:03
looked good like that. We have some drives up, we
29:05
scored on then. We had some drives that just
29:07
look look, like, we were lost, man.
29:10
And that inconsistency is what is killing this team, man?
29:16
It's killing us. But I mean, I think we've kind
29:20
of think we sucked all the marrow out of the offense here,
29:23
man. Let's talk about the defense a
29:24
little bit. Best game they've played all
29:27
season. I agree, I agree.
29:31
If you had told me or Brawn, Thursday night, they're going to
29:35
get 225. First of all, think we would
29:39
have been like you're out of your damn shits, you say?
29:46
I mean, did you see specifically today that really why it was
29:53
their best game? The front seven played the most
29:57
complete game, they played this entire year including tax
30:02
including decks. I'd say if I'd almost go to the
30:06
point and say especially Dax which is something that y'all
30:10
know I have not said this year. Slander weird.
30:16
Acts truthers. Yes, we are next truth.
30:21
You know, we've been critical of the front seven.
30:24
Yeah. And the secondary, but, you
30:26
know, in particularly we've hammered, the linebackers pretty
30:29
bad this year. We've hammered the defensive,
30:31
tackles pretty bad, and I don't have a whole lot of slander for
30:36
the front seven. But man, that's six packs today.
30:39
He had six sacks. You held the pretty potent
30:42
offense to 25 points under 400 Euro.
30:45
He gave up one play of over 20 yards, true.
30:51
I mean, Deanna Kings rushing stats today.
30:55
Did he give you seen those pretty much non-existent man?
31:00
Yeah, 15 yards. Well, me and Brian are saying,
31:08
hey, we're glad to be wrong. Unfortunately, we didn't, if you
31:11
told me, we held your king to under 300 combined yards, out of
31:15
told you full of shit. But we did, we did um you know
31:23
Dex definitely best game today after the it did not start out
31:27
that way that first drive. Oh my God.
31:31
He was he It fits, he went the wrong way.
31:34
He was, he blew essentially a cover just looking where he was
31:38
and where Devon Taylor wasn't one of those passes, he was in
31:41
the wrong spot and it was just like it all.
31:44
Here comes the same old axe again, but then he turned it
31:47
around. He he got off some blocks.
31:53
Yeah, he went General blocks. He did a good job of getting
31:56
into the flat on several things and patches that we're going to
32:02
the Outline like quick out. One of his best place.
32:05
Today was did that, scramble at the are King?
32:08
He use leverage. He basically did you saw that
32:11
play, right? Yeah, he basically turned.
32:14
And he basically said, you're either going out of bounds of
32:16
your coming back in King, turn back in and he, you know, he had
32:20
that tear but they've got that arm.
32:21
Its load him into guys were there.
32:24
And when we talk crime has over the years, educating me on
32:29
Leverage, and he's like, that's what you did.
32:30
Oh, you want to turn back upfield You come on because
32:34
people are going to be here real quick and that's what happened.
32:38
Yep. Exactly man.
32:40
And he did a great job. I'm going to give another
32:42
shout-out to Hewitt who had to war the 25 today.
32:46
He earned the 25 today and Rob definitely his best game of the
32:52
season by large margin or interior.
32:57
Yeah it's got a sack today Kendricks blew up one of those
33:00
sack early he absolutely just It was like pop, pop, neat.
33:03
He basically hand fog, got the guy down right up to the are
33:07
King. Yep.
33:09
And I mean, the defensive ends played well Justice Reed had a
33:12
good game bar. No had a good game.
33:14
I mean, this was a complete effort.
33:16
Rook probably had his best game of the season, as well.
33:20
Brooke look like rough today. Yeah, getting to the spots
33:23
popping. Not look.
33:26
Looking like me. Finally, he where he was out for
33:29
covid. Maybe finally got his football
33:33
win back. The guy we have known the last
33:37
three years. It's true man.
33:39
I'm going to call out to plays in the secondary that I would
33:44
say. Would that were the two worst
33:46
plays of the day. We've been positively we put on
33:50
the icing here I'm going to put a big ol loogie right there on
33:55
the Apple on the cake. It's still edible, you know
34:00
depending on who Are you might still eat it?
34:05
I want to start with the ball where King just kind of chucked
34:10
it towards the sideline, Chapman was playing underneath the route
34:17
and instead of giving ground and getting a pic held ground and
34:23
then tried to jump and make a play.
34:27
And instead of ended up either an interception or fourth down,
34:31
they get a first down on a third and long.
34:34
Yeah, that he looked like he apparently he just gauge how how
34:41
much air was going to be on that ball completely wrong and then
34:45
was just in a position where he could make a play and tried to
34:48
jump late. That's the only thing I could
34:50
think of their man but he definitely misread the the ball
34:53
in the air. The second one, I'm not sure.
34:57
Responsibility here. But it was on the the only big
34:59
play of the game. The Long touchdown, the gave
35:01
them the lead based on what I saw.
35:06
It looked like they were almost in a all-out blitz Cover 3 and
35:13
they ran that RPO and Taylor just did not get enough depth.
35:17
Now, he was, he could see, he was, he was five yards in front
35:21
of where that passed was. Yeah, I'm I could be wrong on
35:23
what the coverage was. It might have been some sort of
35:26
man responsibility across the board on that Blitz.
35:29
But yeah, it looked like he should have had kind of the
35:34
intermediate to deep third. Since we were bringing the house
35:37
and he was just too shallow and we got to beat them kind of that
35:42
that quick post, what it was. Because it looked like as soon
35:48
as as soon as that ball was snapped, when he hit that third
35:52
step. He chucked.
35:53
It like he immediately saw no one was in that zone and the way
35:57
the leverage was. So again, the way the leverage
35:59
was set up was, I think my Brian seem to belong coverage is the
36:04
way it was set up. It looks like he was trying to
36:07
turn him inside to say I'm going to turn you inside.
36:10
There's going to be a Zone. You're going to go right into a
36:12
Zone with someone. They're correct it.
36:16
Like he had because he was running with him, but he was
36:19
running with him in a, almost a trail responsibility.
36:23
So it seemed like it was, it was kind of a cover three with
36:26
everybody underneath going after the quarterback and just Taylor
36:32
didn't have enough depth, where when the post crossed out of
36:35
the, the corners Zone into the middle, he just wasn't there to
36:39
make a play and it almost, you know, from from other
36:43
perspectives. And it might have been a manner.
36:46
Responsibility. But the way he got beat kind of
36:48
right away. Didn't look like it looks like
36:49
he thought he had helped inside. Got you.
36:53
All right, let's go back. Let's let's kick the loogie off
36:57
those again. Best of the day jehan's.
37:01
Best schematic game, without a doubt.
37:04
His best play calling game, the blood says were unique and you
37:12
said something. And I'll say what you said to me
37:15
about out what we did today that if we had done some of these
37:19
other games, we might not be formed or right now.
37:23
Yeah. I mean, I talked about a little
37:25
bit on Thursday to I was I was saying that this defense
37:28
consistently throughout the year is not been dictating terms to
37:31
the offense and it felt like we finally started doing that
37:34
today, whether it was some of the stunts with the defensive
37:37
line or the blitz is that we were bringing we felt like I
37:40
felt like we were actually saying You're not going to
37:43
fucking score. We're going to hit you.
37:45
We're going to knock your dick in the dirt.
37:49
It felt like a defense that again I said it we they haven't
37:54
feared us all year and look like hey you might you might think
37:58
twice before doing some things against this one?
38:00
Exactly. It was the first time I can
38:02
really say that. I mean, you know, I'm not saying
38:05
that we're turning a corner on defense, but I definitely think
38:08
in terms of effort and again, dictating terms, this was
38:13
definitely the best effort of the Year by far. 100%.
38:20
And you know what? If this is the type of Defense
38:23
Justin Hamilton wants to run, I think can be highly successful
38:26
in this area of college football with, you know, there's going to
38:29
score points. I mean, look at the track meet
38:31
that broke out today between wake and UNC.
38:35
Yep, makes me feel better about both of those games, little
38:40
little bit. In January where we can just
38:48
order a drink, we're going to get a leader of our choice since
38:54
six feet apart it one of our houses in the cold get drunk and
38:59
do it. There we go.
39:01
Yeah, our eyes would well, you know I mean we'll still do it.
39:05
We just might have to pay for it.
39:07
Exactly my out there has pouches please let us know.
39:14
You know again loss. Today brings the Hokies to four
39:18
and four and look after, you know, essentially starting
39:24
forward to going into what we thought, okay?
39:30
After after Liberty to be our toughest, stretch, we can get.
39:34
If we get to Miami five and one we can do some things because
39:39
you feel confidence. But if we're fortunate that way,
39:42
and this is sort of our take y'all, and we're going to just
39:46
get into some stuff on the coaching situation and we kind
39:50
of mentioned it last week, but this is, we've crafted their
39:54
statement. It's our opinion that if the
39:57
money can be found in its ten million dollars, so, if you hit
40:02
the lottery tonight, in your Virginia Tech fan, get a stretch
40:05
at If the money can be found, this is going to be the last
40:10
year of the Justin Fuente era. Now, who stays and who goes on
40:16
this staff, let that be up to the next head guy cuz you know,
40:19
I think Braun me and you both feel that there are a few
40:24
coaches on this staff that if the next guy walks in and he
40:28
doesn't have like his Ace for that position.
40:32
There's some guys it could be retained.
40:35
Yeah. I mean there's there's probably
40:36
a handful Let's start with the guy that we've been given a
40:40
whole lot of love the last couple weeks.
40:41
James, tribest hundred percent. I think he's probably.
40:45
He's probably done. Consistently the best job on the
40:48
staff all year. He's only - plays have been bad
40:52
decisions and execution by the players, not any calls that he's
40:58
made. I think he's done a really good
41:01
job of getting his guys prepared to do the things they need to
41:06
do, especially when When? It's crunch time.
41:10
Yep. So yeah, I would definitely
41:13
consider retaining him. I'd also look at a couple guys
41:18
on the defensive side of the ball.
41:19
You guys might laugh at me for saying that, but just based on
41:24
their ties to the program, their ties to Virginia Retaining
41:31
Justin Hamilton as a position coach and Darryl.
41:34
Tapp, as a position coach would probably be a good decision.
41:39
I'm with you on all three of those especially shy best.
41:42
I mean, Chavez has been one of the best of special teams
41:44
coordinator has over the last two decades, but without any
41:48
question and depending on who the higher is, you're probably
41:52
not going to find someone as good as him to just handle that
41:55
for you. The tapping ham thing makes
41:58
sense. People even set it.
42:00
That ham was, he probably wasn't quite right for this, some of
42:05
you quite right? Just not quite ready.
42:08
I think he's right but I think he's not seasoned enough to my
42:13
ready to take over that degree of responsibility.
42:16
Especially without. I mean we thought that the
42:19
Clay's higher was kind of a slam dunk in terms of easing him into
42:23
the thing and that's turned out to be a fucking clown show.
42:27
No, disrespect to Tracy claeys in his career.
42:30
But I don't think it's been a good fit for him here.
42:33
No, not at all. Let me know missing.
42:35
And when we set it, the entire Team Missing.
42:39
The. Note Spring ball summer
42:44
conditioning stuff, true Camp, starting to season and Labor
42:47
Day. Not 34 weeks later, you know, I
42:51
think they can be kept app. I don't care who the coach and
42:55
higher is next. They have to keep him.
42:58
They have to because he lives at he breathes it you know he can
43:04
be great. I won't throw two more names out
43:07
there for you. Okay.
43:09
You tell me what you think. You've got your three guys.
43:11
I like Like those guys, there's truly to I feel like could be
43:15
kept but two more names in interest me.
43:18
One is Ryan Smith. Okay?
43:20
Right. Yeah.
43:22
He was one of the 30s under 34 24/7 last year and the other
43:27
one. I don't know where you're going
43:32
with your running back coach. Usually, one of the easier
43:39
positions to fill but more This connections with junior
43:43
colleges. He looks like he knows how to
43:46
find guys, knows how to do the portal stuff.
43:50
Well, where it's like, you know, that's an easy higher.
43:55
You automatically say, you're the Juco guy.
43:58
That's your, that's your territory.
44:00
You're not touching anything else in recruiting.
44:02
Look at the giucose file. We need.
44:05
We think about those two. I think those two you can make a
44:08
case for think. You could also maybe We make a
44:12
case for for Coach Vise with what he's doing with the
44:16
offensive line. Getting getting trying to find
44:21
good fit guys. Doing good at keeping guys
44:24
rotational where you've got guys that can play in different areas
44:27
when you need to when a guy goes down or when a guy's not getting
44:30
the job done. So I like what he's done.
44:33
And again, guys, this is all contingent on who the ultimate
44:37
big guy higher is and what type of coordinators they In along
44:42
because obviously, you know, if the guy they hire is a
44:47
quarterbacks coach or if a the DC, they hire is a quarterbacks
44:52
coach, the chance of of Smitty hanging around, is slim to none.
44:56
But, you know, if, if it's not that case, then you know, I
45:01
think that's when you start looking to some of these guys
45:03
staying around since we're talking about retaining and and
45:09
not let's talk about Who the next guy should be?
45:18
I'm thinking, man, who's your who's your who's your One A Day
45:21
is without a doubt. It's Luke fickle, okay.
45:29
I mean, what he's done at Cincinnati in the way he scraped
45:33
himself up after kind of getting thrown into the fire, you know,
45:38
with the whole Trussell thing which is, you know, I think a
45:41
decade ago now, but how he essentially has stepped himself
45:45
up and it's kind of turned that program into legitimately Right
45:53
now, the best group of five. Yeah.
45:57
School probably by a significant margin.
46:01
Yeah, it's not no slander on UCF or anything or, you know, even
46:07
Josh heupel down there. He could be on a short list of
46:10
eventually, but I think his mentality, he's a defensive guy.
46:13
He plays knows, he played nose guard, Ohio State back in the
46:17
90s. You know, 33 and 13.
46:21
Is a head coach. He's 33 and 13 is a head coach.
46:24
Even with the Ohio State six and seven year in there.
46:28
You think, love that year, you take out that year the guys, 27
46:34
and six It's impressive, man, impressive, and that's a foreign
46:39
aid his first year in Cincinnati.
46:45
He's a younger guy, you know, he's only 47 years old.
46:53
Got a long time left to coach, he's the first call.
46:58
Okay. Do you agree?
47:02
What he be your first call he will be my first call as well.
47:04
I think just what he brings to the table.
47:09
His resume combined with the way he works.
47:12
Yeah. And what he's been able to do in
47:14
a short period of time there at Cincinnati, I feel like we've
47:17
seen enough Of what he's done there as well.
47:22
So it's not it's not like such a small sample size where, you
47:26
know, you say well maybe that's this or that's that I think
47:29
we've seen enough where, you know, we know that this is all
47:33
him getting this thing done. So yeah it would definitely be
47:38
my 1A 1B is going to be for me, Todd Grantham.
47:44
Oh man at the hot, that's a hot button.
47:51
I mean if you can get a get a long way from the abrasiveness
47:56
that kind of comes with that name in terms of what's happened
48:02
with some other staffs and and fan bases, I think you can
48:07
really It's a me. It's really a slam-dunk higher
48:11
mean you gotta, you know, a hokie a guy that's coached here.
48:15
Before I got understands recruiting in Virginia guy that
48:21
how he rubs people aside has always been good in the living
48:25
room with recruits true. And the fact that potentially if
48:30
you make that higher you also get Tory and graze your
48:32
defensive coordinator. That's a big one because I think
48:36
he could get toring to come. Grant them all.
48:40
So, he went to Tech also grew up in Pulaski so literally from the
48:44
region Hometown boy, 1 pound voice intially.
48:48
It's another. So do you want to say?
48:50
It's a Frank. I but I like him as well.
48:53
Again the torian things big because you told you tell half
48:58
this fan base torian's coming back but you got to deal with
49:01
Todd half on would say screw it torian's that good.
49:05
Yeah it's the whole thing of He's coached everywhere.
49:10
He coached. Ten years in the NFL, he's been
49:13
in Big Ten country, he's been in the SEC now, you know, basically
49:19
of the last 10 years, seven of the last ten years, with
49:23
Georgia, Mississippi State, and now Florida.
49:29
You talk about the guys who were on staff.
49:31
The one thing you would not have to worry about with him having
49:35
that many times played or how many coached at that.
49:38
Many places. Excuse me.
49:41
You would find solid hires it, probably every single position.
49:46
There would be somebody, even though he's abrasive and they
49:48
know he can be an a-hole, you know what?
49:52
I know, he'll work hard. I know who put good things in
49:55
place, so I would be opposed to that.
49:59
Now, I think it's one of those things too.
50:04
If you're talking about a Target demographic, to get fundraising
50:10
up. He's not going to get your mass.
50:16
Right along with the mass of people he is in his mid 5654 so
50:20
he's not he's not late 60s he's he's at that age a lot of times
50:25
guys who work for years and years to get their first job.
50:29
He's a potential 10-year higher, he's a ten year high but it's
50:34
also when you're talking about a guy who's that age you kind of
50:38
start thinking about. These are the people who are
50:42
there when the stuff was bad and it went not good.
50:46
You hire him maybe some of those people who are making
50:50
significant amounts of money, all over the country who are
50:53
that age. Instead of donating five
50:56
thousand dollars a year, they donate 20 I like Todd.
51:02
Todd play. When I was there.
51:04
I remember Todd Todd coach when I was there.
51:06
I remember Todd potentially, helping what you've been saying,
51:11
and what we've been saying, numerous times the higher can be
51:15
great if the Investments not there, it could go sideways.
51:20
Yeah, we're going to do Five Guys.
51:23
The third one bronze Grover. Podium for this guy, like the
51:27
guy Brian still on the podium for him though.
51:33
Yeah, I like I like Marcus Freeman and I only say Marcus
51:37
Freeman. I think he's a good look.
51:39
If you're not able to get Luke or Todd because Luke potentially
51:45
could go to some sort of loose, Blueblood school, that is trying
51:48
to flip the script. Did you see what just happened?
51:53
To Michigan today. Yeah, yeah.
51:56
D, what happened to Penn State today?
51:58
Yeah. Yeah.
52:01
There's some potential for big blue blood schools that are on
52:05
the Rocks right now to make a splash higher.
52:08
So Loop fickle could be gone regardless of how bad we want
52:12
him. Sure.
52:13
So if we're looking another guy, let's look at the defensive
52:19
coordinator for those up and coming.
52:23
Bear cats that are you know climbing the ladder of the top
52:27
25. Also a linebackers coach.
52:32
Yeah, yeah. So I like I like him.
52:37
I like what he's been able to do with recruiting in the short
52:40
time that he's been with the Bearcats.
52:45
I like that. He seems like a guy that can
52:48
really relate to a lot of the youth in the areas that we
52:52
recruit. So I think that would be good.
52:54
He doesn't have a big history of recruiting in the state in the
52:59
region, but he's done well, when He's dipped his toes in there.
53:04
And he's done well across the board for recruiting when he's
53:09
been out there. So I like it.
53:12
You know, it's not a sexy higher but I think he's a young guy
53:17
that can relate with the players a lot better and bring some
53:20
interesting philosophies on defense that even jams, not even
53:25
exploring at this point. So I think it's a win-win on
53:28
that front. All right, the one reason he
53:32
wasn't as high for me as he was for Brian.
53:34
Y'all because we play a fight. Is my worry.
53:37
Brian. And I told Brian, that's my
53:38
worry. If you hire him and you lose
53:40
fickle, people are going to be like you missed your big guy.
53:45
That's why you had to hire him. And the way I feel some people
53:50
would say is well if you're going to hire some defensive
53:53
coordinator from Cincinnati, I'm not giving you my money.
53:58
And it's one of those things where, again, people that follow
54:01
it, you see how good Cincinnati's been, he's 34 years
54:04
old. You talking about relating.
54:07
Now, on the other hand hiring, somebody that young, lot of
54:11
young professionals out there might be like, I love this
54:14
higher. Yeah, I only can give $100 a
54:16
year cool, but when there's 10,000 of those stroke and
54:19
checks for a hundred dollars a year that will cope with things
54:24
significantly in, you know you kind of look at it and say with
54:30
him is kind of like the fickle thing at his age right now.
54:36
There's only one place. He probably go too.
54:40
That's t. Five wise and that would be Ohio
54:44
State. Yeah.
54:45
Andy his age right now, Vic was one of Ohio's state guy was that
54:48
interim job but once he went, there was defensive coordinator
54:54
under Urban for a few years went back to Cincinnati went to
54:56
Cincinnati. He kind of knows coaching his
55:00
alma mater as a head coach is gone.
55:03
And for Freeman. It's still the option out there.
55:06
Now, I threw brawny, ginormous curveball here, Because I
55:15
mentioned one guy runs like, yeah, and then I threw this name
55:20
out. Jamie Chadwell for everybody at
55:25
home. I'm going to give you a few
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seconds to go on. Your smartphones are put in,
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Jamie Chadwell in your search engine.
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Okay. Jamie Chadwell is the current
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head coach and offensive coordinator of Coastal Carolina
55:42
in. Obviously this year, they are
55:44
having a great season and he's actually been a head coach for
55:49
well over or just over a decade. Decade starting in D2.
55:54
Then moving to the Gulf South Conference, then moving to the
55:58
Big South or at Charleston, Southern, two years in the
56:02
playoffs, then came to Coastal. A couple rough years but finally
56:10
got them going in the right direction.
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I like him for a couple reason, a his age, he's like his early
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40s. Some people will say when T is
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2, okay? That doesn't help us.
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But my bigger thing is, where he's done.
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His primary coaching is down in South Carolina.
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So for me, I think he's a guy that probably gets the region,
56:31
okay? It's Georgia, he probably gets
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North Carolina, he probably gets Virginia.
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He played out at East Tennessee State Probably gets that reason,
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probably gets you no more virus Channel, footprint here.
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And I just feel that it would be, it would be one of the this
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is the long shot. Right.
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Okay. Yeah.
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If you're talking money-wise, I've been trying to find his
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current salary for the last couple minutes, and it's not
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been there. So let's get efforting,
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efforting, efforting, efforting Alright, his current deal.
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You're ready for brines Thanksgiving?
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Yeah. Financially, if you feel like
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you have to cut some things, you're not going to pan out the
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Wazoo out of the gate. So, you know, let me throw a
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little caveat on that here. So I said, Jamie Chadwell
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someone, that's kind of essentially similar in this same
58:24
vein here. There you go.
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Will he lie? Only been a head coach since
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2016, but his annual salaries 755,000.
58:48
So that's another one, where two million will get the job done.
58:54
And another young guy similar to, to Freeman that can really
58:58
relate with These kids I think and do a good job with the
59:01
recruiting. Albemarle Mater is University of
59:06
Richmond so understands the area coaching and Charlotte you know
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it was a coach at Austin Peay before he went to UNC Charlotte.
59:18
Yeah I don't think it's a slam dunk.
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I don't think it's sexy but I think similar to Jamie Chad.
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Well, it might be a pretty decent run.
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They're not always true man and the one that I threw out there
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to you. And these guys did not their own
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our list, but they didn't go top five.
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Because when you consensus things up, you have to be
59:35
honest. I love Billy.
59:37
Napier bronze, kind of out on him.
59:39
I don't know why. You know, what's the best part
59:44
of this Brandon agree with that? I didn't like Healy that much
59:46
because I think he's too young and he's literally having to
59:50
build a program from the base. But I like Napier coached at
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Clemson knows that region been down.
1:00:00
Louisiana doing very good down there but I will give you one
1:00:02
more name. You ready?
1:00:05
This is the main man. Throw out.
1:00:08
Your old coach. Bronson.
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Yeah, I mean I can speak for a little bit on him man.
1:00:17
When I was at him and Sydney, he coached d-line one year and
1:00:22
tight ends for for one year, definitely like a player's coach
1:00:29
understands the relationships to give you guys a idea of the type
1:00:35
of Coach you're dealing with. He's a guy that was enrolled at
1:00:41
In Sydney while he was coaching and I don't want to play, I want
1:00:45
to coach. And so as a essentially, a tapir
1:00:51
he was commanding that respect to players and getting the job
1:00:54
done in a high-level had said one of the best years for our
1:00:58
tight ends, the years he was coaching tight ends, we had one
1:01:02
that was all owed act that year. So he knows his shit and he's
1:01:09
had success at pretty much every stopped.
1:01:11
Since then it's good. It's going to not it's nobody in
1:01:17
the family. Base is going to say yes, let's
1:01:19
hire another Memphis coach after point.
1:01:21
A and after what's going on with Mike Norvell down at FSU.
1:01:26
But if you just want my opinion on the guy, I think he'd be a
1:01:29
good hire. well, I mean he coached In Georgia high schools,
1:01:36
he coached Virginia. So obviously, he's probably got
1:01:39
some inroads here even though it was 20 years ago.
1:01:42
He was an NFL coach, he coached down at UCF, he was out of there
1:01:46
as own estate, he was at Toledo and then he's been at Memphis
1:01:49
for the last four years under Norville.
1:01:52
So guy has a ton of experience in clearly you talk about, I was
1:01:55
in school wanting to coach. And then, makes his way to the
1:01:59
NFL for, you know, better part of half a decade.
1:02:05
It does say something about him. All right, Brian, there's a big
1:02:10
elephant in the room, there is man, and this is, this is one.
1:02:15
If you throw it on the Twitter timeline, you're going to get
1:02:18
Jesus either either guys that love it so much that they're
1:02:22
it's ridiculous or guys that will be added lie against it.
1:02:29
this isn't Curtis is He grew up here.
1:02:40
He played here, his dad was a legend here, he gets the
1:02:43
culture. The other half, he won shit.
1:02:52
What's he done? He's not even a coordinator
1:02:54
anywhere. And I think I don't think rain
1:03:00
is football X's and O's coach know, maybe on special teams if
1:03:07
we hired him he would pretty much do what his dad did is that
1:03:10
bhc and Coach special teams. It's true.
1:03:13
But the whole thing is in Brian since you coached so many people
1:03:18
think that coach has to do one thing.
1:03:21
You know, they got a, they've got to have one side of the
1:03:23
ball, the other. Some of the best coaches aren't
1:03:26
exit. The no Geniuses at any of it,
1:03:29
right? But there are little motivators
1:03:31
The Unbelievable organizers. They're good CEOs.
1:03:36
Yeah. And in a sense experts at
1:03:40
managing The Works, they're not experts in any any one
1:03:44
discipline. And with him it's one of those
1:03:47
things. He's been an assistant head
1:03:48
coach, he was an assistant head coach with his Dad.
1:03:52
He was a special teams coordinator for Kirby Smart and
1:03:55
for the last four season three seasons, he's been an associate
1:04:01
or assistant the assistant head coach for Lincoln Raleigh in
1:04:04
coaching tight ends. He's only making four hundred
1:04:08
seventy thousand dollars. I think, I think he would take a
1:04:10
HomeTown discount between two and two and a half million.
1:04:14
If he does that you can go get million-dollar coordinators.
1:04:19
Yeah, I mean let's go ahead and get this out of the way I feel
1:04:23
like unless guys are Hell bent on certain coordinators.
1:04:29
We need to be paying a million dollars for our coordinators.
1:04:33
True. Is he in, you know, if we look
1:04:38
at what's going on right now with with the two coordinators
1:04:42
that we have right now we're kind of getting what we paid
1:04:46
for. We're getting a guy that has
1:04:48
potential but is very green on the defensive side and we're
1:04:52
getting a guy that has a pretty good grasp of scheme but is very
1:05:01
poor at preparing his team to play.
1:05:04
And getting consistent play on the field, both in the play
1:05:08
calling front and the actual execution.
1:05:12
Be honest, truth, man. So you know, talk about all that
1:05:17
and we and now we need to say if we're going to take a step
1:05:21
forward, we need the salaries for those coordinators to be
1:05:24
competitive with the with the teams that we want to be
1:05:27
consistently. It's true man.
1:05:29
But the other thing with Shane and Shane is kind of similar to
1:05:37
Similar to Todd, he's changed in coaching, 20 years and and the
1:05:44
folks who do knock it and say, well, it's Duncan.
1:05:48
Yeah. Okay.
1:05:49
He coached at Georgia Tech in 2000.
1:05:51
He coached at Tennessee on her. Former as a ga 2001, 2002 2003,
1:05:56
he was at Smith. Sippy state with Sylvester Croom
1:05:59
04, 05 06. He was down with the old ball
1:06:02
coach. From 2007 to 2010.
1:06:08
He clearly was here with his dad again with Kirby it, Georgia and
1:06:14
went to Lincoln. I think.
1:06:17
And again, if you if you think about how his dad hired people
1:06:23
in his dad's personality, and I know her dad's not all him, You
1:06:28
know, Frank coached almost a decade before.
1:06:32
Well, actually over a decade before he got here, right?
1:06:35
Yeah. I just want to do thumb real
1:06:37
quick. And again, I like doing this
1:06:39
stuff live because it's kind of fun, everything everything Frank
1:06:46
woman graduated in 1968. from 1972 to 1987 he coached at
1:06:54
Maryland, The Citadel Murray State He was body roll some of
1:07:01
those years and with Murray State, he was actually the
1:07:06
defensive coordinator before he came.
1:07:09
You know, you talk about some of the guys that he pulled in.
1:07:11
He pulled in Wiles was a guy. He coached Bud was a guy.
1:07:16
He coached, you know, being just because a guy hasn't went to
1:07:21
coordinator or he's been coaching 20 years, you know,
1:07:27
look at Indiana right now. You should enhance doing.
1:07:34
Look at that. He was a coach from 1992 to 2000
1:07:43
16 when he became the defensive coordinator coach got fire, he
1:07:46
took over interim, they hired, and he's built them up in the
1:07:49
last four years and they beat Michigan.
1:07:55
And they've been state is when the day.
1:07:59
Well, don't just because a guy's not been what the coordinator or
1:08:03
a coach somewhere else. Don't let that not.
1:08:07
Yeah, I'm probably not as high on on Shane as you are or some
1:08:12
some folks on the timeline have been, but I'm not opposed to it.
1:08:17
I think it would be from a, we talked about the CEO
1:08:21
perspective. I think it would be a very good
1:08:24
choice from that front because I think he does handle those
1:08:29
aspects of the job. Well, I think you would be good
1:08:32
with donors. What I don't know is what
1:08:38
concerns me, I guess is more of the recruiting side of it just
1:08:42
because there were very big ups and downs for him while he was
1:08:48
on the staff. All right, hold on, can I can I
1:08:52
can tell you what to solve that. Yep.
1:08:56
Comes in goes to Dad and you conference call Lauren Johnson
1:09:01
and you say Lauren. We want you on this step history
1:09:04
or thousand dollars. You don't think that would solve
1:09:08
some of his recruiting woes in certain places in this state
1:09:11
that would help grabbing probably keeping their assistant
1:09:16
from the 757 might help and you can keep it keep it moving
1:09:23
potential there. But I also think you talked
1:09:25
about donors, Shane there so they can say what they want to
1:09:30
say. The people who are going to give
1:09:32
the hundred to two hundred dollars a year that are casual
1:09:36
Virginia Tech things and we are in some of you might be casual
1:09:39
listening to us and that's fine because you that's your
1:09:43
priorities and that's all but I think Shane could touch every
1:09:47
single piece of the base, his dad to leverage the older donors
1:09:51
himself. to sort of essential even Grantham up to the RH
1:09:58
folks, you can grab those and then you see Shane and how he
1:10:02
acts and you see Shane's full of energy and you see his
1:10:04
personality And I feel like he would be one of those Innovative
1:10:09
guys to get the kids graduating to become members of the hockey
1:10:13
club. Yeah, so yeah.
1:10:16
So for whatever small role it was he can also say that he was
1:10:23
on the 99 team where he was the Long Snapper, man.
1:10:29
Remember this folks about the 9019 If Shane Beamer was a
1:10:36
shitty Long Snapper, the miracle and Morgantown never happens.
1:10:40
Bingo whatever that's worth. That's going to count right
1:10:46
there. It counts.
1:10:48
Anything else breaking since we've been on here for it?
1:10:52
What now we're 20 minutes or so our 10 minutes, okay?
1:10:58
Last week, I'm not as drunk as last week.
1:11:04
The extra 20 minutes here. We're not, we're not pushing our
1:11:07
40 listening to that show but I'm not seeing anything
1:11:13
breaking. I am watching some Pac-12 after
1:11:15
dark on my end here seeing Washington, go up 17-7, there's
1:11:22
a couple others. There's another Mac game on
1:11:25
which I think, I'm gonna probably turn in early tonight.
1:11:28
Master starts at 10:00 tomorrow and I do want to watch that as
1:11:31
long as I can. If there's nothing else.
1:11:34
Breaking Braun, let's wrap it. Yes, sir.
1:11:38
All right, that takes care of this episode of The Boundary
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