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JAIL TIME FOR NIGERIAN SEXTORTION GANG AFTER SUICIDE OF 'ALL AMERICAN' TEEN · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace after urgent warnings issued about
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Speaker 1: a sextortion gang targeting US teens, a major break in
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Speaker 1: the case. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. In the last hours. Two
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Speaker 1: members of a sextortion gang sentenced to hard time behind bars.
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Speaker 1: This sextortion gang, these Nigerian nationals working hand in hand
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Speaker 1: with American citizens to torture and sex stort American teens.
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Speaker 1: It all came to light when an incredible young man,
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Speaker 1: a high schooler scrubbed in Sunshine. Seventeen year old Jordan
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Speaker 1: de May was caught up in a six stortion scam
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Speaker 1: and committed suicide. What happened.
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Speaker 2: A Michigan high school football star receives a mysterious Instagram
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Speaker 2: message from a girl claiming they have friends in common. Soon,
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Speaker 2: their conversation becomes flirtatious.
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Speaker 1: This kid, this boy to me, this little boy a teen,
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Speaker 1: had no idea who he was really dealing with. This girl, Danny,
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Speaker 1: this beautiful young girl flirting with him online. Started on Insta,
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Speaker 1: then she moved it to a Google chat room. It
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Speaker 1: wasn't a beautiful young girl at all. And now this
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Speaker 1: boy is gone listen.
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Speaker 3: I saw Jordan for the last time. He came home
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Speaker 3: at ten fifteen, and I believe that's when he opened
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Speaker 3: up his phone and saw the first messages rate when
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Speaker 3: he pulled in our driveway, and I was just about
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Speaker 3: ready to go to bed because we had a long
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Speaker 3: day the next morning traveling. Our other two kids were
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Speaker 3: already asleep, My wife was finishing up laundry and getting
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Speaker 3: ready final packing for our vacation. But I ran into
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Speaker 3: Jordan outside on our patio for a brief moment as
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Speaker 3: he was walking in. I was heading to the garage quick,
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Speaker 3: and that was the last time I'd seen him. But
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Speaker 3: looking back, that was literally minutes after he received his
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Speaker 3: first message, and within ten minutes I was in bed
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Speaker 3: sleeping and I never saw him again. I woke up
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Speaker 3: to finding him in his bedroom.
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Speaker 1: You are hearing Dad Jehan de May speaking to me earlier.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is Jean de May, Jordan's dad and his mother,
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Beauta to both of you, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. And John. Let me tell you why we
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Speaker 1: were playing sound of when you spoke to me before,
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Speaker 1: because I was worried that you and Jennifer would be
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Speaker 1: so distraught that you wouldn't be able to speak, So
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Speaker 1: I was going to use your prior words in case
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Speaker 1: that happened, because when I work on this case, I
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Speaker 1: sometimes when I don't know the right words. Can you
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Speaker 1: and Jennifer, starting with you, John, tell us what happened
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Speaker 1: that evening?
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, thank you for having us again
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Speaker 4: and sharing our story. And you know, appreciate the thought
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Speaker 4: of the speaking. But I know I can speak for
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Speaker 4: myself and probably Jennifer as well, but we're very vocal.
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Speaker 4: This is a very important issue and we're getting your
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Speaker 4: voice as far and why as we can to tell
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Speaker 4: Jordan's story and what happened to him and keep this
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Speaker 4: as this legacy. Jordan was, you know, as you can see,
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Speaker 4: an all American young man who was six two hundred
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Speaker 4: and eighty five pounds of you know, handsome young young
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Speaker 4: man getting ready to start his own life. He was
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Speaker 4: two months away from his eighteenth birthday, just getting ready
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Speaker 4: to graduate high school. And you know, this tragic thing happened.
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Speaker 4: As you know we heard earlier. The first message came
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Speaker 4: in late evening on Thursday night, and the messages were
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Speaker 4: flirtatious and kind of meaningless in the beginning, but it
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Speaker 4: kind of changed and as it progress into more sexual nature,
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Speaker 4: pictures were exchanged and Jordan had sent a compromising photo
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Speaker 4: of himself just after midnight.
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Speaker 5: And when he did that.
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Speaker 4: He figured out real quick that these this young lady
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Speaker 4: named Beanie Roberts was not a young lady. She was
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Speaker 4: they were extortionists trying to extort them for money. And
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Speaker 4: he spent the next three to four hours and extruciating, hard,
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Speaker 4: fast paced extortion and trying to pay the money and
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Speaker 4: trying to figure.
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Speaker 5: His way out of it. And he ultimately.
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Speaker 4: Told these extortions that he was going to kill himself
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Speaker 4: because of them, and their response was, good, you better
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Speaker 4: do it faster. We're going to make you do it,
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Speaker 4: and he did.
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Speaker 1: Mister Jamay, I am so sorry. I know those words
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Speaker 1: are hollow, are they? I just hate it for you,
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Speaker 1: I hate it for him. And if there is a
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Speaker 1: way to get this message to one team tonight, to
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Speaker 1: one team, it will be worth everything that we're doing
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Speaker 1: right now. Everything. And here's the thing. We'll never know.
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Speaker 1: We'll never know if we had any effect, if we
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Speaker 1: saved anybody, But I know this, we'll know if we
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Speaker 1: don't even try. Jennifer thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: What is your recollect of those critical hours?
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Speaker 6: When I woke up to get ready for work, I
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Speaker 6: saw a text that came through from Jordan at three
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Speaker 6: p forty one in the morning, and it said mother,
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Speaker 6: I love you, And I just texted him back and
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Speaker 6: said I love you too.
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Speaker 1: I hope you got some.
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Speaker 6: Sleep, and I started to get ready to take my
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Speaker 6: kids to school. Once I got them to school, I
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Speaker 6: knew Jordan should be awake, so I sent him another
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Speaker 6: message saying are you okay? And he didn't respond. So
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Speaker 6: I drove to work, sat down, and I was like,
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Speaker 6: something's not right. He should be responding to me. I
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Speaker 6: sent him a third text, just Jordan, and I gave
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Speaker 6: it a minute, and I reached out to Jordan's girlfriend
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Speaker 6: at school and said, is Jordan at school? And she
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Speaker 6: said no, And in that moment I knew something was very,
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Speaker 6: very wrong, and I reached out to John to see
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Speaker 6: if he was still at his house. John called me
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Speaker 6: about nine minutes later and said he's gone. He's gone,
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Speaker 6: and that Marning was just chaos trying to figure out
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Speaker 6: what happened or why he would do this because he
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Speaker 6: was ready to go on vacation. There were literally no
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Speaker 6: signs that he was in a place to take his
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Speaker 6: own life.
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Speaker 1: The investigation that started with the death of this incredible
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Speaker 1: young man, a boy, a boy, Jordan DeMay, a boy,
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Speaker 1: has led to the uncovering of a vast network, a
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Speaker 1: gang all around the world extorting sex, storting teens. Joining
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Speaker 1: me is Rich Wstak, a former detective cyber crimes detective
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Speaker 1: president of be Sure Cyber Training. Rich, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. And you know, I'm just a trial lawyer.
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Speaker 7: I know how to try a murder case and I
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Speaker 7: know how to work a cross pot, and that's about it.
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Speaker 1: You have got to explain to everyone in understandable terms,
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Speaker 1: what is happening, How is this happening, Why is Jordan dead?
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Speaker 1: How did it happen?
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Speaker 8: Well, Nancy, my heart goes out to these parents, and
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Speaker 8: it's happening all over the world, actually where these warlords
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Speaker 8: have these cyber cafes, and they are all sextortionists, specifically
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Speaker 8: the Yahoo Boys in Nigeria who are doing this to
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Speaker 8: our kids across the country. What we need to do.
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Speaker 8: I train about three hundred thousand students a year. Last year,
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Speaker 8: out of those three hundred thousand. I have had thirty
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Speaker 8: five students come to me and telling me that's happening
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Speaker 8: to me right now, and we have to It starts
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Speaker 8: with education of the parents, and then it's to the education.
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Speaker 1: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Explain what happens
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Speaker 1: in simple terms. Okay, So here we see Jordan.
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Speaker 7: Everything's fine, and all of a sudden, this girl pops
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Speaker 7: up on Insta. I believe, wasn't it originally on Insta?
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Speaker 7: John and Jennifer correct, Yes, And she's cute.
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Speaker 1: And there's a picture of her and she's got a.
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Speaker 7: Profile and a background. I'm sixteen, I go to so
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Speaker 7: and so high school and I'm a cheerleader and I
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Speaker 7: live and so and so.
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Speaker 8: What happens then, Well, our boys get so involved and
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Speaker 8: when they're by themselves, you know, in their bedrooms at
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Speaker 8: night with their devices, and they're like, what's the harm.
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Speaker 8: It's just another girl on the internet. What they don't
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Speaker 8: understand is that if they don't know who they are,
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Speaker 8: where they come from, or can't see them on a webcam,
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Speaker 8: it's probably a liar, probably a sextortion case. So for girls,
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Speaker 8: it's about more pictures and videos.
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Speaker 1: So what you're saying, you need to be able to
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Speaker 1: either know the person in real life or be able
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Speaker 1: to see them on a webcam. And to you, John,
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Speaker 1: to May, it just started out so innocently. She sends
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Speaker 1: a picture, maybe a yearbook picture or I don't know,
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Speaker 1: a picture, a cute picture, and they start flirting and
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Speaker 1: talking online. He doesn't know her, she doesn't know him,
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Speaker 1: and they're having a good time and this goes on
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Speaker 1: for you know, twenty minutes. How does that go so sideways?
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to figure out. John.
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm certainly not a professional at this yet,
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Speaker 4: but I'm trying to be.
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Speaker 5: And you know, from all the law enforcement professionals from.
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Speaker 4: All the world that I'm meeting and talking with and
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Speaker 4: learning from, the majority of the same cases is the
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Speaker 4: same type of situation.
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Speaker 5: It's a slow boil.
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Speaker 4: Building rapport with hacked accounts mostly, and so a lot
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Speaker 4: of these accounts that are hacked have users and follow
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Speaker 4: so when you accept the friend request, they oftentimes have
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Speaker 4: mutual related friends, so they feel comfortable accepting their cross
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Speaker 4: rate in the beginning.
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Speaker 5: So that's the first step. And then as.
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Speaker 4: A detective state of the Yahoo boys is a particular
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Speaker 4: group that was very well connected and basically put together
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Speaker 4: a training platform that was all over the internet for
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Speaker 4: years for these extortions to learn how to do it effectively.
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Speaker 1: Oh, dear lord, So they have a training program how
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Speaker 1: to six stort teens American teens. Okay, this is how
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Speaker 1: I think it went down. Jump in and correct me
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Speaker 1: to John and Jennifer and witchress s doockey? Hold on,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Moroney, Elizabeth Peterson, I'm coming right to you. Listen.
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Speaker 9: Social media has become a regular part of daily life
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Speaker 9: for millions, and seventeen year old Jordan to May is
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Speaker 9: no exception. On Twitter, Jordan receives a message from a
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Speaker 9: beautiful team. Her name is Danny Roberts, and she's pretty
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Speaker 9: and very suggestive. Danny asked Jordan to send some naughty
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Speaker 9: photo of himself, but Jordan box and asks if she's
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Speaker 9: scamming him. Danny convinces Jordan she is in a scammer
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Speaker 9: and sends a nude photo of herself. Convinced, Jordan sends
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Speaker 9: a nude photo of himself.
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Speaker 1: And that is how it starts.
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Speaker 10: Listen the minute Jordan de May is convinced by a
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Speaker 10: new friend on Twitter to send a naughty photo. He
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Speaker 10: knows he has been had right away, he knows he
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Speaker 10: is being blackmailed. The so called Twitter friend tells Jordan
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Speaker 10: he needs to send money right now or the naughty
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Speaker 10: photo he just sent is going to be sent to
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Speaker 10: his family and all his friends at school. The blackmailer
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Speaker 10: tells Jordan to send one thousand dollars. He tells the
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Speaker 10: scammers he doesn't have that much. He tells them he
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Speaker 10: has three hundred dollars, and they agree. If Jordan de
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Speaker 10: May sends the three hundred dollars, they will get rid
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Speaker 10: of everything.
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Speaker 5: He sends the.
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Speaker 7: Money crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is not just a story. This is rare. Jordan
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Speaker 1: is dead. And you just heard one of our guests
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Speaker 1: talking about training online. How these sex storationists are trained online.
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Speaker 1: They even have a script. This is part of the
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Speaker 1: script that we've obtained from court filings. Quote. Hey, I
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Speaker 1: have screenshots of all your followers and tags and those
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Speaker 1: that comment on your posts. I can send this new
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Speaker 1: to everyone and also send your nudes until it goes viral.
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Speaker 1: All you've got to do is cooperate with me, and
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Speaker 1: I will not expose you. Can you imagine John de May,
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Speaker 1: your boy alone up in his room, thinking, oh, my girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: my high school girlfriends gonna get a picture of my
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Speaker 1: private parts, and no, I send it to some girl
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Speaker 1: I've never even met. My parents are going to see this,
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Speaker 1: and the turmoil he was going through, and.
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Speaker 5: They were even taking it a step further.
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Speaker 4: They were they were pretending like they were already sending that,
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Speaker 4: and they were building content to try to show that
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Speaker 4: they were sending this already. So they were putting that
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Speaker 4: maximum pressure campaign on him to really stress them out.
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Speaker 4: And remember this is at you know, one, two, three
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Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. He's spiraling out of control. He
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Speaker 4: doesn't know what to do.
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Speaker 7: Why did it take the suicide of this young boy,
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Speaker 7: literally all Americans scrubbed in sunshine, never been in trouble.
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Speaker 1: A day in his life. Why did it take that
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Speaker 1: for sextortion to be investigated? His death and the investigation
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Speaker 1: into its circumstances has led to the uncovering of a
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Speaker 1: far flung sextortion plot, leading to the arrest of multiple
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Speaker 1: grown men and uncovering a Nigerian gang with US counterparts.
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Speaker 7: Praying on our our children joining me. Jordan's mom and
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Speaker 7: dad Jennifer and John. What happened that night that John
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Speaker 7: and Jennifer are describing.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 9: Danny Roberts begin sending more threats to Jordan, putting his
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Speaker 9: naughty photos into collages with other family members and friends
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Speaker 9: and threatening to send those photos out, giving up the
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Speaker 9: pressure on Jordan, not giving him a moment's rest from
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Speaker 9: the threats. Jordan tells Danny he's thinking of killing himself
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Speaker 9: and writes, because of you. Danny responds, good, do that fast.
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Speaker 1: Let me understand what I'm hearing. Jennifer Buda joining us
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Speaker 1: Jordan's mom. So this extortionist, this gang praying, predating upon
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Speaker 1: our children, can actually go into their account and she Danny,
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Speaker 1: it's not as she is, American grown men teamed up
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Speaker 1: with Nigerian grown men. They get pictures of his friends
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Speaker 1: and family and they put the as we're calling it,
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Speaker 1: naughty photos of him naked in the middle, and he
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Speaker 1: puts all of his friends around it, proving to Jordan,
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Speaker 1: I can reach all of your friends, your mother, and
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Speaker 1: your father with this photo. I cannot imagine how Jordan
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Speaker 1: would have reacted seeing that, yeah, they were building the collages.
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Speaker 6: Jordan might have even believed that they were sent out
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Speaker 6: to some of his friends, his friend's parents, or to us.
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Speaker 1: It was very convincing.
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Speaker 6: I can't imagine the panic he was in, being tired
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Speaker 6: alone in the middle of the night. They basically tortured
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Speaker 6: my son for hours before they forced him to take
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Speaker 6: his own life.
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Speaker 11: Listen, it has only been six hours since Jordan de
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Speaker 11: May and Danny Roberts exchanged nude photos at seventeen years old,
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Speaker 11: the homecoming king, popular, well liked, Jordan de May sees
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Speaker 11: no way out when he threatened to end his own wife.
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Speaker 11: He isn't met with compassion, He's met with an evil challenge.
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Speaker 11: Do it he does? In his bedroom, on his bed,
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Speaker 11: Jordan de Maay fatally shoots himself.
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Speaker 1: This sextortion plot, and if you're a parent, if you're
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Speaker 1: an older brother or sister, an aunt, this matters. This
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Speaker 1: sextortion plot may never have been uncovered, and we may
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Speaker 1: never have known why Jordan did this. With the world
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Speaker 1: at his fingertips, his life in front of him, a
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Speaker 1: football star heading to vacation, loving loving, loving parents, a
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Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend, good grades, everything why it would never have been.
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Speaker 9: Uncovered but for this news of Jordan de May's death
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Speaker 9: spreads fast. Jordan's girlfriend, Kyla gets messages online from people
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Speaker 9: expressing their condolences, but there is one message from a
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Speaker 9: user she doesn't recognize. This person is not offering condolences.
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Speaker 9: The message is from a user with explicit photos of Jordan,
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Speaker 9: threatening to send the photos to her friends and family.
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Speaker 9: Kyla tells her parents about the message and they go
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Speaker 9: to the police.
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Speaker 1: John to May is with us, Jordan's dad along with
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Speaker 1: Jordan's mom. John explain the significance of his Jordan's little
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Speaker 1: girlfriend getting a message from the sextortionist.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's really the most important piece of this entire
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Speaker 4: investigation in resulting in almost eleven or well, I believe
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Speaker 4: it's eleven arrests now at this point in American Nigeria.
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Speaker 5: But the picture was the catalyst.
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Speaker 4: And when we talk about the number of children that
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Speaker 4: are affected by sextortion specifically, it's literally everyone to some
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Speaker 4: degree at one level to another. But this picture was
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Speaker 4: important because it allowed law enforcement to be able to
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Speaker 4: get search warrants and preservation warrants into social media companies
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Speaker 4: Instagram or Meta at this point in our case, Otherwise
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Speaker 4: we would have never known Jordan White his phone clean
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Speaker 4: He deleted all the messages on Instagram, so at face value,
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Speaker 4: we really wouldn't have had the knowledge of what we
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Speaker 4: have today. So that one picture, which is actually a
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Speaker 4: little bit unlike most of the extortionists in sextortion cases,
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Speaker 4: the majority of the time, these extortionists do not send
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Speaker 4: the photos.
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Speaker 5: They have no reason to.
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Speaker 4: This was a little bit of a difference in a
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Speaker 4: lot of the other sextortion cases that I've been that
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Speaker 4: have been following and meeting with parents and investigators on
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Speaker 4: So we're very, very lucky that that happened because a
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Speaker 4: lot of parents know that they're with some fishy stuff
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Speaker 4: going on by some of the message they're on their phone,
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Speaker 4: but they don't have enough evidence to go to a
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Speaker 4: court to get a warrant to go to Meta because
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Speaker 4: Meta is just not going to release the back end
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Speaker 4: data and provide parents or investigators with information without evidence.
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Speaker 4: So that one piece is what would blew this all
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Speaker 4: up for us, So extremely important.
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Speaker 11: In Michigan, the Marquette County Sheriff has his detectives work
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Speaker 11: with the FBI and subpoena Jordan's social media investigators track
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Speaker 11: Danny Roberts ip address to Nigeria, where many online sextortion
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Speaker 11: scams originate. Three Nigerian men, Ezekiel Roberts and brothers Samuel
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Speaker 11: and Sampson Negoti are linked to Jordan Demaz's case, along
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Speaker 11: with more than one hundred other victims.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now, Elizabeth Peterson morning news anchor and reporter
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Speaker 1: WLUCTV six uppermichiganssource dot Com. Elizabeth, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. Now we hear the US attorney speaking out. Now,
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Speaker 1: just then we heard about a Nigerian gang, but there
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Speaker 1: were American men, us citizens part of this gang, part
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Speaker 1: of this plot. How did it work? Elizabeth?
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: As this continues to unfold, we keep learning more and
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Speaker 12: more about exactly what happened, and there were five American
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Speaker 12: men arrested, charged in this this scheme, and essentially through that,
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Speaker 12: we learned that when Jordan sent the money, he didn't
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Speaker 12: send it to Nigeria. He sent it to one of
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Speaker 12: these men, who then sent it to another they call
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Speaker 12: him the Plug, another man in Nigeria who then sent
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Speaker 12: it to the three defendants. And I think when you
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Speaker 12: really look at what happened, started with three hundred dollars.
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Speaker 12: The first man here in the United States took his
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Speaker 12: cut of say twenty percent, then the plug takes his cut,
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Speaker 12: and so by the time you go down the line,
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Speaker 12: this was over fifty dollars, sixty dollars. And so as
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Speaker 12: we start to learn those details, just how unnecessary this.
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Speaker 1: Entire, this entire thing was. Oh, Elizabeth Peterson, hold on
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Speaker 1: just a moment, sure, Elizabeth, he mean some of these
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Speaker 1: people their cut, did you say it was fifty dollars.
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Speaker 1: Jordan isn't dead and their cut was fifty dollars, So pointless, Jennifer,
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Speaker 1: did you have any idea that some of these six
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Speaker 1: stortionists get fifty dollars and Jordan is dead.
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Speaker 6: When they share that information at the last press conference,
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Speaker 6: and I did the math in my head. I thought,
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Speaker 6: this is absolutely disgusting that I lost my son over
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Speaker 6: someone getting fifty or sixty dollars. Completely unnecessary, and my
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Speaker 6: son could be alive. I would have paid a million
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Speaker 6: times that to have him here, and all they wanted
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Speaker 6: was fifty bucks.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but my stomach is just clenched
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Speaker 1: thinking that they would go along with this. And it's
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Speaker 1: easy to say, Oh, Nigeria so far away, you can't relate.
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Speaker 7: To someone in a different country who are they. We
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Speaker 7: don't know them.
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Speaker 1: US citizens are praying on our children, our Jordan listen.
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Speaker 13: Over the course of a short conversation, Samuel Ogashi, pretending
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Speaker 13: to be this young woman, persuaded Jordan to send a
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Speaker 13: sexually explicit image of himself. Once Samuel Ogashi had that
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Speaker 13: sexually ex explicit image in his hand, he then turned
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Speaker 13: to extort Jordan de May for money, threatening to reveal
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Speaker 13: the image to Jordan's family and friends if he did
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Speaker 13: not comply.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand rich with Stokey joining US cybercrimes detective,
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Speaker 1: how was it? In a nutshell? In simple terms for me,
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Speaker 1: how were these texts and messages some of them on Insta,
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Speaker 1: some of them in a Google chat room?
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Speaker 7: How were they traced back all the way to Nigeria?
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Speaker 7: And how were the US counterpart the gang in the US?
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Speaker 1: How were they traced?
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Speaker 8: So what happens is when these happened, we have to
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Speaker 8: we have to have five pieces of evidence. One of
24:03
Speaker 8: those pieces of evidents are as screen captors. We have
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Speaker 8: to do what's called in the first step the preservation order,
24:09
Speaker 8: which holds the information for ninety days. Then we go
24:12
Speaker 8: on to subpoena or search warrant. Part of that, we
24:15
Speaker 8: ask for the history of IPS for as long as
24:18
Speaker 8: the account existed, and what you're going to see not
24:21
Speaker 8: only in the social media accounts. How do they send
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Speaker 8: the money? Was at Zel? Was it PayPal? How is it?
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Speaker 8: So when we get every every single social media or
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Speaker 8: banking system that they're using, we get the user ID
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Speaker 8: and we get all the IPS that are connected to it.
24:38
Speaker 8: So when you have all the players connecting with their
24:41
Speaker 8: IPS into these accounts, that is traceable. When I teach
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Speaker 8: in the schools and tell the kids, there is no
24:48
Speaker 8: one online is anonymous when it comes to social networking
24:51
Speaker 8: and gaming, and no one has the right to make
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Speaker 8: you do something you know you're not supposed to be doing,
24:56
Speaker 8: and we can make your pain stop because we can
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Speaker 8: trace it.
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Speaker 1: Which with Stocky is talking about how this case was
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Speaker 1: cracked wide open John to May, Jennifer, but to the
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Speaker 1: mom and dad of Jordan, most of these transactions were
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Speaker 1: through Apple pay or zell. Was that how it was
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Speaker 1: traced in Jordan's case?
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Speaker 5: Correct?
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Speaker 4: In Jordan's case, it was an Apple Pay to a
25:22
Speaker 4: United States bank account. And then unfortunately, these extortionists need
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Speaker 4: players in the United States because you can't just send
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Speaker 4: American currency to Nigeria.
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Speaker 5: It has to be converted.
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Speaker 4: So typically what's happening is the money's coming in through
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Speaker 4: Apple pay Zel and then it goes into a bank account.
25:38
Speaker 4: The bank account then uploads it into a crypto wallet
25:41
Speaker 4: through a crypto exchange United States Exchange, and then it's
25:44
Speaker 4: converted into a Bitcoin or some sort of cryptocurrency. Then
25:47
Speaker 4: it's easily transferred into any wallet on the planet, and
25:50
Speaker 4: then the receiving end of that crypto wallet our case
25:54
Speaker 4: in Nigeria, they were able to run it through an
25:56
Speaker 4: exchange in Nigeria and convert that cryptocurrency back into their
26:00
Speaker 4: own home currency.
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Speaker 14: Today, I'm announcing a separate but related case charging five individuals,
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Speaker 14: all US citizens, located in the United States now and
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Speaker 14: at the time of the alleged criminal activity. These individuals
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Speaker 14: we alleged facilitated this sextortion scheme by receiving payments from
26:23
Speaker 14: the victims and transferring the money to Nigeria, ultimately to
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Speaker 14: those carrying out the scheme that resulted in the death
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Speaker 14: of Jordan DeMay and victimized many others.
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Speaker 1: That is, the US Attorney for the Western District of Michigan,
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Speaker 1: Mark taught in speaking about the arrests in the last
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Speaker 1: hours part of a Nigerian sextortion gang sentenced to hard
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Speaker 1: jail time nearly twenty years behind bars in the US
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Speaker 1: federal prison, guilty to sexually extorting teen boys all across
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Speaker 1: the US, including a teen boy just seventeen years old,
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Speaker 1: Jordan de May from Michigan. Hard jail time for two
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Speaker 1: of the men part of a bigger conspiracy including American citizens,
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Speaker 1: to extort sexually extort teen boys and girls across the
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Speaker 1: country nearly twenty years. Frankly, I'm glad they caught them,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think twenty years is enough. But can
27:42
Speaker 1: I talk about the reality to John and Jennifer, All
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Speaker 1: of this happened in just six hours from the time
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Speaker 1: your baby got this message, the first message from Danny.
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Speaker 1: Six hours later later, he was gone. He was God
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Speaker 1: from this earth and in heaven to six hours. John,
28:07
Speaker 1: that's right.
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Speaker 5: And there's two dozen parents and families that I know.
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Speaker 4: That I speak with that have lost their children to sextortion,
28:17
Speaker 4: and a lot of their stories are very similar to these.
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Speaker 4: All these young boys and some girls. We could put
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Speaker 4: them all in the same room together and they could
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Speaker 4: all be brothers and sisters and the feet on them,
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Speaker 4: and you know, it's a tragedy.
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Speaker 1: Jennifer, it is so hard to take in that all
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Speaker 1: you've raised him for years, eighteen years, and in six
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Speaker 1: hours you lose.
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Speaker 6: They took one of the most precious things to me,
28:45
Speaker 6: and on that day, part of me left this earth too,
28:49
Speaker 6: And there's always going to be an emptiness and a
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Speaker 6: heaviness not having Jordan here with me.
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Speaker 1: To Elizabeth Peterson joining us WLUC TV, it's so difficult
29:04
Speaker 1: to hear John and Jennifer talk about how much they
29:08
Speaker 1: love Jordan and how everything changed in just a few hours.
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Speaker 1: This investigation turned on its ear and it got to
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Speaker 1: be very extensive and much bigger than anyone imagined.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it really, you know, as I've been covering this
29:26
Speaker 12: for a couple of years now and I've gotten to
29:28
Speaker 12: know Jennifer and John, and I've listened to the community
29:31
Speaker 12: to talk about who Jordan was. Everyone explains him as
29:34
Speaker 12: this big, big presence, this big spirit. And I think
29:38
Speaker 12: as we look at this investigation and see how big
29:41
Speaker 12: it's gotten, the reach that it's gotten, his story is
29:44
Speaker 12: being told not just here in Michigan, but across the country,
29:47
Speaker 12: across the world, and every time it's told, there's an
29:50
Speaker 12: opportunity there for us as parents, for us as the community,
29:53
Speaker 12: for us as legislator's law enforcement across the board, to
29:57
Speaker 12: do better, to do right by Jordan, his family.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly what's happening.
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Speaker 12: And I can't help but think that. You know, it's
30:05
Speaker 12: hard for us as adults sometimes, I think, to relate
30:08
Speaker 12: to a sixteen year old and what they're thinking, what
30:10
Speaker 12: they're feeling. But they haven't lived life yet, they haven't
30:14
Speaker 12: matured yet. They don't have that wherewithal to say, you
30:16
Speaker 12: know what, in a year, I'm going to look back
30:19
Speaker 12: at on this and laugh. And so as adults we
30:22
Speaker 12: can't understand, but we can open that open space.
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Speaker 1: Now what That's a really good point, Elizabeth, as is
30:28
Speaker 1: true in so many suicides to you, Jennifer, Butta Jordan's mother.
30:36
Speaker 1: If they could just get through that one dark moment, yeah,
30:42
Speaker 1: if he had just made it through the night, the
30:45
Speaker 1: next morning, everything is different. Explain absolutely.
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Speaker 6: You know, their brains aren't developed enough to see past
30:54
Speaker 6: that very moment. They're just seeing what's in front of
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Speaker 6: them right now, and how devastating this is how they
31:00
Speaker 6: might have hurt someone or disappointed someone. I actually had
31:05
Speaker 6: a teenager reach out to me yesterday and say, this
31:09
Speaker 6: is happening to me, and because of Jordan's story, I
31:12
Speaker 6: know that this is going to pass. And that brought
31:16
Speaker 6: tears to me, knowing that sharing Jordan's story is helping
31:20
Speaker 6: others and it is saving lives.
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Speaker 1: Jordan de may Attain, literally just king of the world,
31:28
Speaker 1: his life in front of him, commits suicide because of
31:33
Speaker 1: a sextortion plot against him, and it's happening to teens
31:37
Speaker 1: all over our country. I want you to hear what Danny,
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Speaker 1: the cute girl he thought he was talking to said. Dude,
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Speaker 1: now goodbye, enjoy your miserable life. And victim too says
31:54
Speaker 1: why and Danny, I'll make this goat vibe. I'll make
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Speaker 1: you regret your life. I'll make you commit suicide. I
32:05
Speaker 1: promise you, I swear. That is what these teens are
32:09
Speaker 1: up against. They think they're going to get ridiculed, shamed, shunned, bullied, mistreated,
32:17
Speaker 1: grounded by parents, friends, family, and they feel they have
32:22
Speaker 1: no other choice very quickly. Doctor William Maroney has conducted
32:27
Speaker 1: so many autopsies on teen suicide victims. Your message.
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Speaker 15: My message is that we need to have resilience coming
32:39
Speaker 15: from the parents, but we also need the taxpayers to
32:42
Speaker 15: hear that message in the schools because the kids spend
32:45
Speaker 15: so much time in school that the schools should redirect
32:50
Speaker 15: children back to their parents for questions, and there should
32:54
Speaker 15: be early education about feeling insecure and suicide and downplay
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Speaker 15: those messages in the media and refer children back to
33:05
Speaker 15: communication with their parents.
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Speaker 7: That's exactly what you do Rich with Stocky train in schools.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we need to be teaching parents how to have
33:14
Speaker 8: that technology talk because so many times parents say, if
33:18
Speaker 8: you do this, if you do that, we're going to
33:19
Speaker 8: do this year, We're going to do that to you,
33:21
Speaker 8: and that shuts down the communications. Instead, I teach something
33:24
Speaker 8: called the golden ticket, and we need to have parents
33:27
Speaker 8: give that kid a pass because parents are responsible for
33:30
Speaker 8: their kids technology and we need to do a better
33:33
Speaker 8: job allowing no matter what you do, we are here
33:36
Speaker 8: for you and we will fix it for you. You
33:38
Speaker 8: don't have to suffer in silence.
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Speaker 1: And what is so ironic to Jennifer and John Jordan's
33:43
Speaker 1: mom and dad, Jordan was not under any threat like
33:48
Speaker 1: you hear parents saying Hey, I'm going to take away
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Speaker 1: your car keys, I'm going to take away your cell
33:52
Speaker 1: phone if you fill in the blank. This boy, Jordan,
33:58
Speaker 1: this was a prison of his own making out of
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Speaker 1: fear embarrassment, not because you had disciplined him or fussed
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Speaker 1: him about being online, but because of what the defendants did,
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Speaker 1: grown men in the US and Nigeria targeting this teen
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Speaker 1: boy in the middle of the night. Jennifer, you guys
34:21
Speaker 1: did everything right and parents need to know that too.
34:25
Speaker 1: You can do everything right and you still have a
34:29
Speaker 1: hard time protecting your child online.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jordan had a loving family, he had a great life,
34:36
Speaker 6: a huge support system within his friends in this community,
34:40
Speaker 6: and he was just the target that night, and they
34:43
Speaker 6: were relentless and did not give up until Jordan finally
34:48
Speaker 6: took his own life because he couldn't take the pressure.
34:51
Speaker 6: And I think it's so important for parents to hear
34:54
Speaker 6: Jordan's story and sit down with their families and have
34:57
Speaker 6: open conversations about what happened in the There's absolutely nothing
35:02
Speaker 6: that they can't come to you with for help, because
35:04
Speaker 6: people want to help you. If you see yourself going
35:07
Speaker 6: down that tunnel.
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Speaker 1: John to May, Jordan's dead, I want to tell you
35:11
Speaker 1: how you've affected my family, you and Jennifer and Jordan.
35:17
Speaker 1: When you first told me about Jordan, I pulled up
35:20
Speaker 1: Jordan's picture online on my iPad and I blew it up,
35:25
Speaker 1: and I waited for the twins, my children, to come
35:27
Speaker 1: home from school. They sat down, we had no conversation,
35:31
Speaker 1: which we normally do, and I held up the picture.
35:34
Speaker 1: I said, you see this boy, he's a star football player,
35:37
Speaker 1: he was going to go to college. He's dead, and
35:40
Speaker 1: this is what happened. This is what happened, and now
35:43
Speaker 1: his mom and dad don't have him any more. And
35:47
Speaker 1: I told him point blank, what happened. Please help us, John,
35:53
Speaker 1: help all the parents listening right now.
35:55
Speaker 16: What is your message?
35:57
Speaker 4: I think the most important thing really is kind of elementary,
36:00
Speaker 4: but it just boils down. So we have to really
36:03
Speaker 4: watch what kids are doing on devices and specifically social media.
36:07
Speaker 4: One thing that I think is really important, as a detective,
36:10
Speaker 4: touched on it was having a device in their bedrooms
36:12
Speaker 4: in secluded areas at night without other people around. I
36:16
Speaker 4: think that's a really bad recipe, especially when something like
36:19
Speaker 4: this goes down. There's no way for anybody to intervene.
36:21
Speaker 4: So I think parents need to be really, really cognizant
36:24
Speaker 4: about that. Keep the devices in open areas, keep them
36:26
Speaker 4: out of their bedrooms, put them on the phone chargers,
36:27
Speaker 4: put them away at night, and then speaking to their
36:30
Speaker 4: kids and having the conversation. This is stuff that's really happening.
36:33
Speaker 4: To look at Jordan's story, this thing is real. There's
36:36
Speaker 4: people from other parts of the world that came into
36:38
Speaker 4: my house and murdered my son that night, and there's
36:40
Speaker 4: eleven people in custody right now because of it. So
36:43
Speaker 4: this isn't something that just as a whim. There's two
36:46
Speaker 4: dozen other families, and there's probably thousands, if not tens
36:49
Speaker 4: of thousands, maybe even millions of kids that.
36:50
Speaker 5: Are being affected by this to some level.
36:54
Speaker 4: So we have to be diligent parents and pay attention
36:57
Speaker 4: to what's happening and be a little bit more strict
37:00
Speaker 4: and fours coming with the phone.
37:03
Speaker 7: Usage crime stories with Nancy Grace Nearly twenty years hard
37:18
Speaker 7: prison time for two Nigerian brothers after the suicide of
37:24
Speaker 7: an incredible young man, a teen boy, Jordan de May.
37:29
Speaker 16: John de Maay is with me. This is Jordan's dad.
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Speaker 1: What is your recollection of that night and the following morning?
37:39
Speaker 16: When Jordan lost his life.
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Speaker 3: Well, the night before was a pretty normal, chaotic trying
37:45
Speaker 3: to get everything ready to leave on vacation for two
37:47
Speaker 3: weeks kind of night, as any buddy with three kids
37:50
Speaker 3: and two dogs is trying to do. So it was
37:54
Speaker 3: a pretty normal leaving in that sense. Obviously. In the morning,
37:58
Speaker 3: I woke up, My two younger girls were getting up,
38:01
Speaker 3: and my wife had gotten up, and we were just
38:03
Speaker 3: kind of milling around trying to get ready for the day.
38:06
Speaker 3: And Jennifer, Jordan's mother, had sent me a text message
38:11
Speaker 3: and asked me if Jordan was, you know, if he
38:16
Speaker 3: was still home. And at that point, it was like
38:18
Speaker 3: seven point thirty in the morning, which was really strained,
38:22
Speaker 3: and I looked out the window and I saw I
38:29
Speaker 3: saw it was Carston in the driveway, and I thought
38:32
Speaker 3: that was awfully strange because he never missed his school ever.
38:36
Speaker 3: So at that point I went downstairs to his bedroom.
38:41
Speaker 3: I opened up the door, and I found him in
38:43
Speaker 3: his bedroom.
38:44
Speaker 16: I guess when you first saw him, you couldn't believe it.
38:50
Speaker 3: I was stunned, shocked, numb, every my whole body was
38:59
Speaker 3: just failing me. I could barely stand up.
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Speaker 16: Oh, mister to May I'm so sorry, just imagining. I
39:08
Speaker 16: guess every person listening to your voice right now is
39:12
Speaker 16: thinking of that moment.
39:13
Speaker 1: They go in and my daughter sixs o'clock and I
39:18
Speaker 1: can hear it. It sounds like some kind of a
39:20
Speaker 1: sitar ding ding ding ding playing some kind of song,
39:24
Speaker 1: something ungodly.
39:25
Speaker 8: Early hour.
39:26
Speaker 1: She gets up and I always go in and check
39:28
Speaker 1: on her in case she goes back to sleep. Then
39:32
Speaker 1: my son could sleep through a mac truck coming through
39:35
Speaker 1: his window and I have to go literally get him up,
39:42
Speaker 1: and I've done it a million times. I'm just thinking
39:47
Speaker 1: about that moment when you open the door and you
39:53
Speaker 1: see him. What did you do?
39:57
Speaker 3: I just stood at his feet and started shaking, and
40:03
Speaker 3: I think I wasn't even trying to talk to him,
40:06
Speaker 3: like why, Jordan, you know why what happened? And I
40:12
Speaker 3: remember I just slowly turned around and slowly walked back upstairs,
40:17
Speaker 3: and my wife and my two and my one daughter
40:19
Speaker 3: was sitting on the couch, and I told my wife
40:23
Speaker 3: that Jordan shot himself, and and my youngest daughter freaked out,
40:28
Speaker 3: and my wife freaked out and everything started to happen
40:34
Speaker 3: from there. Life changed that morning.
40:36
Speaker 16: Mister de May, what do you make life changed that morning.
40:40
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, losing the child is the worst thing
40:44
Speaker 3: that can one of the worst things that can happen
40:45
Speaker 3: to anybody, but it sent a lot of It's well,
40:51
Speaker 3: it started, it started a lot of different things in
40:53
Speaker 3: our life personally, outside from learning about sex stortion and
40:58
Speaker 3: going public and doing all those great things. But you know,
41:01
Speaker 3: we we lived in a home that was going to
41:04
Speaker 3: be our forever home that we never went back to
41:06
Speaker 3: that night. After that date, we went back to finish things,
41:11
Speaker 3: but we ended up putting on the market Charlie after
41:13
Speaker 3: sold it and now we're building a new home. So
41:17
Speaker 3: just things like that and the way we interact with
41:20
Speaker 3: our kids and the way that we you know, just
41:22
Speaker 3: go about daily life. There's it's just it's just a
41:26
Speaker 3: different it's a different world for us. And you know,
41:28
Speaker 3: Jordan's always in our in our thoughts and how we
41:31
Speaker 3: and how we navigate the world. And and it's even
41:35
Speaker 3: heightened more now with with being able to come forward
41:39
Speaker 3: with with what happened and share the story and and
41:43
Speaker 3: really create this message that that Jordan would be proud
41:47
Speaker 3: of as well.
41:49
Speaker 16: Mister Tomy, what is your message?
41:52
Speaker 3: Our message is? There are a lot of folks. And
41:56
Speaker 3: you know, we talked a little bit here with some
41:58
Speaker 3: very professional people about the suit side and the rates,
42:00
Speaker 3: and it's it's actually absolutely tragic to see to hear
42:04
Speaker 3: that those numbers are so high. But you know, let's
42:08
Speaker 3: be honest. You know, social media is not doing any
42:10
Speaker 3: favors for anyone, not children certainly, and not adults. And
42:14
Speaker 3: I think the message needs to be that for parents,
42:18
Speaker 3: it needs to be we need to pay more attention
42:20
Speaker 3: to what's happening online and start understanding a little bit more.
42:23
Speaker 3: And for for kids that need. Younger people I shouldn't
42:26
Speaker 3: say kids, young young and young people and young adults
42:29
Speaker 3: even need to understand that the the nature of what
42:34
Speaker 3: social media is doing to you mentally, just in our
42:36
Speaker 3: story is so so left field. I mean, it's it
42:41
Speaker 3: doesn't happen to everybody, right, But let's boil it down
42:43
Speaker 3: into simple things. And I'm sure you've had a lot
42:45
Speaker 3: of podcasts about bullying and body shaming these young ladies
42:50
Speaker 3: and trying to get likes and feel goods and all
42:52
Speaker 3: the things. I mean, all that stuff is not healthy.
42:54
Speaker 3: It's just not healthy for people at all. So I
42:57
Speaker 3: think the message needs to be we need to slow
42:59
Speaker 3: down that stuff. I think we need to go back
43:01
Speaker 3: to having real relationships with people, having real conversations, trying
43:06
Speaker 3: to get young people away from sending pictures and messages
43:10
Speaker 3: as you know, sexual content. You know, have real relationships
43:15
Speaker 3: with people, Be out and about, be alive, enjoy the air,
43:19
Speaker 3: you know, look around. But at the end of the day,
43:23
Speaker 3: we have to tell people that if things happen, you know,
43:26
Speaker 3: it's not the end of the world either. You know,
43:29
Speaker 3: Jordan's story is so tragic, and this is something that
43:33
Speaker 3: probably would would have been laughing about in ten or
43:35
Speaker 3: fifteen years after he's graduated college and gotten married and
43:38
Speaker 3: had kids and bought his first home and you know,
43:41
Speaker 3: got a career job and did all the things. You'd
43:42
Speaker 3: look back and kind of like that was stupid, right,
43:45
Speaker 3: But in that moment, you can't. They're not old enough
43:48
Speaker 3: to understand that. They're not developed enough to understand that
43:51
Speaker 3: what their life as they know it, in that moment,
43:53
Speaker 3: that may be over.
43:56
Speaker 1: In their world. They don't understand that all row, you're
44:01
Speaker 1: going to feel better. And when you just said, mister
44:04
Speaker 1: de may that one day when he you know, graduated
44:07
Speaker 1: and gets married, he's buying his first house that you
44:09
Speaker 1: would laugh about a newty that he took when he
44:13
Speaker 1: was seventeen. Just I know you talk to him. I
44:17
Speaker 1: know you talk to him because I talked to my
44:19
Speaker 1: dad all the time. What do you say to Jordan now?
44:25
Speaker 3: I try to talk to Jordan just about the daily
44:29
Speaker 3: stuff past sisters are doing and what we're up to,
44:33
Speaker 3: and things that we've done that we wish he would
44:36
Speaker 3: have been part of, you know it. Just it helps
44:40
Speaker 3: keep the keep the message alive, and keep Jordan alive
44:45
Speaker 3: and helps us heal, helps us move on.
44:50
Speaker 16: Do you ever feel that he answers you in some way?
44:55
Speaker 3: I do. I think I think that's natural for those feelings.
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Speaker 3: A Oftentimes great things happen, and you know, you'll get
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Speaker 3: a rush of wind, or the rain will just suddenly
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Speaker 3: stop and it'll be a beautiful rainbow, or you know,
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Speaker 3: those those weird things that just happen. In those moments,
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Speaker 3: sometimes you just feel that presence. It's it's hard, it's
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Speaker 3: it's good, it's it's refreshing. But I think those are
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Speaker 3: the I think those are the winds that those are
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Speaker 3: the good feels that we need to hold on to
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Speaker 3: to keep us strong and keep our head up and
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Speaker 3: keep pushing forward with everything.
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Speaker 16: I hope and pray that your message is furthered today.
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Speaker 1: If you or someone you.
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Speaker 16: Know believe that you are, or have been.
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Speaker 1: Or currently a victim of sextortion, toll free eight hundred
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Speaker 1: two two five four three two four repeat eight hundred
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Speaker 1: two two five four three two four that's one eight
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Speaker 1: hundred call FBI, and if you are considering or thinking
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Speaker 1: about committing suicide, please text nine eight eight just text
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Speaker 1: nine eight eight or dial toll free eight hundred two
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Speaker 1: seven three eight two five five nine eight eight text
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Speaker 1: or eight hundred twenty seven three eight two five five,
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Speaker 1: because I promise you, if you can get through that
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Speaker 1: dark hour and see the sunrise the next morning, you'll
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Speaker 1: change your mind. Twenty years behind bars, some consolation, our
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Speaker 1: prayers for the family of Jordan to.
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Speaker 7: May Itzy Grace crime story. Signing off, goodbye friend,