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The Shane Gillis SNL Uproar, and the Mob Guys Pitch a Paxton Sit-Down · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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  You can actually go to your computer right now and you can pull up
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  Wayne in his lovely office and Craig in that disgusting rug that's on the wall and a reflection
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  of a mirror and a bunch of fluorescent lights.
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  You know what's funny is I don't think we've actually sent an internal email yet about
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  your dislike of the rug, but everybody knows.
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  No, I know they do.
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  And look, it's not even that it's a rug.
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  It's just ugly.
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  It's terrible.
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  I'm going to buy y'all a new sign. Okay, so you don't have to go to Hobby Lobby
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  Or Michaels
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  Look, to defend KSEV and Tad, I bet you when they made all this they didn't really expect a lot of video
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  I bet you that wasn't an expectation
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  Totally cuz I someone who did radio like the beginning of my career right?
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  I I remember like it didn't matter like I would I didn't have to wear underwear
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  Yeah, right do whatever you want to buy shot could do whatever I want right I
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  Have admitted that I did radio naked a few times. I think yeah to give up people a visual
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  Imagine that you mentioned if we had video then in my hotel room doing a live shot at 4 o'clock in the morning and standing up
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  And fire for radio and and it's just me, you know
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  Lay in there. Yeah
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  Yeah.
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  In the back.
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  James Talarico understands.
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  He does.
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  He understands all that.
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  And I understand that affordability to Democrats means giving people a bunch of stuff they
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  shouldn't get.
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  And no matter how much it costs, no matter how expensive it is, like he said, I want
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  to put back the Obamacare subsidies.
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  What is a subsidy?
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  A subsidy is when you, me, and all our listeners pay money so someone else can get some crappy
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  health insurance that they never even use.
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  That's overly expensive still.
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  From insurance companies that are literally screwing over.
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  They're making billions.
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  See, this is where I do get on the corporation, right?
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  We need to give people money for health insurance and say buy it from Vinnie Boombots.
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  We don't care what you get health insurance, right?
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  And that health insurance companies compete across state lines and that'll bring down
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  prices.
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  If you've ever looked at the actual Obamacare stuff, the deductibles on those plans are
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  ridiculous.
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  And that usually means that even though you have health care, a lot of those deductibles
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  or ones that you have to pay until anything actually kicks in.
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  So they're still overly expensive for people that probably can't afford to use it.
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  No, look, so my daughter who's getting married in March, congratulations, is too old now
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  to be on my insurance.
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  And so for this is Bridge Window where she went on Obamacare, just a bridge until she
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  gets her new gig.
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  She called me and said, this is like the most horrible insurance policy ever.
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  They don't want to pay for anything.
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  They don't want to do anything.
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  I'll have to spend $10,000 before they'll even give me a dollar because that's just
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  the reality.
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  Look, do we need to fix health insurance in this country and make it more affordable and
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  give people more choices to get the kind of insurance they want?
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  Can Republicans do it?
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  Well, we haven't shown that we can.
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  I don't know why sometimes we don't we were afraid to argue what we believe
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  We don't want insurance companies to know we don't want people taking advantage of we don't and and Trump has said multiple times
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  that if health care providers had to publicly post their prices that it would help people and also having a direct version of
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  instead of it being you know health insurance that goes through a
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  insurance company, I can actually directly spend money toward a doctor.
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  I can actually have a direct relationship and the money goes into an HSA or something
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  that works differently.
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  That's right.
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  And then all of their prices are public, which means I don't get screwed over if I pick the
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  wrong doctor because I didn't use my insurance correctly or something.
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  There's ways to fix this and there's conservative thoughts about it for sure.
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  By the way, I'll throw out the phone number because we have been getting a lot of calls
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  today.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  281-558-573.
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  You got more calls?
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  You got calls hungry?
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  No, no, no.
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  281-558-5738 if you want to call in.
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  You wanted to get someone to call?
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  I have a friend.
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  No, I just figured.
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  We didn't give out the phone at all in the first hour and we got calls and I know you
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  were enjoying them, so 281-558-5738.
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  I enjoyed them.
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  I didn't mean to step on you.
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  I enjoyed them because when the first guy went to calling us names because we don't
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  agree with them, which is what I hear in my office almost every day.
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  You've been here enough to know that I say things and I'm either a colonizer, I'm a colonizer,
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  I mean, my family came here from Italy in the 20s, right?
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  And I'm blamed for the Civil War.
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  I don't know how that works.
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  Okay, so I get that all the time. We've but we've also got to start
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  Recrafting a message because it's I don't even like make America great again
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  I would say keep America great. Yeah, right. It's like keep off the grass. They will
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  systematically
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  Destroy what we have built because they fundamentally don't like us
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  They think, and not to be racial, they think the white guy, like you and I, we have privilege,
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  right?
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  We go into a place and they go, hey, some white guys, right?
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  That's what they think.
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  That's really what they think.
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  I'm serious.
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  I have people on my staff that think that.
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  They like the fact that that's over.
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  And I don't care.
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  So keeping America great, the fact that we've allowed them to co-opt it, to make us much
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  a racist, we just want...
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  Look, you could come over here with pink and yellow zebra polka dot stripes.
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  And if you can work your butt off and make it, God bless you.
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  Have a good time.
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  That's the American dream.
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  That's all we want.
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  I think it's interesting you brought up the white guy and the conservative being crapped
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  on everywhere because Shane Gillis is involved in a bit of a controversy.
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  I don't know if you know about this.
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  He did the monologue on Saturday Night Live and no one almost ever talks about Saturday
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  Night Live, but now I'm watching it on all the major news organizations.
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  I missed it.
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  What happened?
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  Well, he made a joke about women at the gym.
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  One of the jokes in his monologue is that women, and the word he chose was they dress
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  like whores.
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  They dress very, very provocatively at the gym.
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  He's 100% right about it.
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  Nobody's ever said that.
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  And actually, what's so funny is Jimmy Kimmel has made that joke before, and apparently
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  that's okay, but Shane Gillis making it has caused a crazy uproar from people that are
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  angry on the left.
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  And it's really interesting to me because had Shane Gillis, who's a white guy, made
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  fun of white men, it doesn't matter what he said, there would never be uproar.
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  But if you make fun of women, if you make fun of minorities, if you make fun of anyone
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  else and especially in this case with the gym thing being a hundred percent
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  accurate I go to the gym occasionally here in Texas. Yeah, you can tell I go a lot too.
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  I don't go as much as I should and like there are ladies there that they don't want you to look at them
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  but they also seem like they've dressed in a way where they want everybody to
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  look well they want to get mad when you look at them because it gives them even
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  more attention. Yeah because we're what do we call it victimizing? What's that word we use? Exploiting?
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  Yeah, they're the victim.
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  They're always extroverted.
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  And if you tell a woman she looks nice today,
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  you're exploiting her.
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  Well, it's misogyny is what they're saying about this joke.
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  That's us.
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  Which is crazy.
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  We're like the massage.
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  We should just change the show from the mob guys
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  to the misogyny hour.
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  We can play the clip when we come back.
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  We'll get to Sharon's call.
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  I see Sharon's on hold now, so we'll get to her.
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  I will do a bit right here on the Voice of Texas KSEV radio.
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  So my wife off air and Wayne was like, turn the volume up,
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  turn the volume up.
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  I got you, turn the volume up.
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  I was responding to a text message off air from my wife
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  and Wayne's like, does your wife like me?
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  And yes, is the answer.
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  She thinks you're very funny.
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  And she just said that she would enjoy misogyny hour.
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  Yeah, I think we should do misogyny hour.
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  Right up.
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  Look, I think it is disgusting that you and I, hetero guys,
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  I am 100% hetero.
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  I appreciate a beautiful woman.
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  As do I.
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  And and I am ashamed of myself
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  I think, I think, yeah, we're not right. You are disgusting. I call it [unclear],
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  that you decided that we like women.
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  It's terrible.
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  And I don't know what is wrong with you
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  that you can't just be open-minded, right?
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  And honestly, it's like when Talarico says he cries
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  about his own whiteness, like where we weep
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  at the fact that we're 100% heterosexual.
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  Where was that question?
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  Where was that question last night?
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  I don't know.
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  Like why in the world, what idiot would wake up
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  and cry about your whiteness?
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  Because they're white.
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  When I wake up in the morning, first of all, I'm not a white guy.
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  I'm an olive skin guy, right?
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  But Italians aren't white.
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  So I wake up in the morning
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  and the first thing I do in the morning,
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  you know what I do?
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  What's that?
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  I look in the mirror and I go,
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  thank you Jesus for making me white.
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  Is that what they think we do?
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  I don't know.
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  That's a very common joke though.
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  I've heard that before, although it's been years
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  since people were willing to make that joke publicly.
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  Like in countries and stuff.
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  What are they afraid of?
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  I don't know.
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  Here, let's get, we got a couple calls now.
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  Let's get Sharon on first
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  who wants to talk about Ken Paxton sharing what he wants to talk about.
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  Hi, I'd like to respond to what Dale was talking about. He made the whole main issue of his
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  call about why Paxton's not campaigning. And I've heard that all over national media.
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  That's what they're pumping. And I have to say, there's an element in the politicians up in DC
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  who do not want Paxton. So the NR, that is called National Republican Congressional
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  Committee, NRCC, they're the ones that distribute all the campaign money and so
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  they did not distribute any campaign money for Paxton. All here and they're
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  still not giving you any and the only reason he has it is because Trump and
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  Elon Musk and you know they've come out... He's got money.
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  Wait, wait, wait. [unclear]
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  I think that he's got money.
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  That's not the problem. The money is not the problem for Paxton.
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  Well, I don't believe that. I believe, from the sources I've been
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  listening to, you know, the big
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  [unclear].
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  I believe that it is a fact that the NRCC would not give him any
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  money
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  and the Bush crowd. Well, actually, I want to get back
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  to Sharon and I want to explain that a little bit better because I agree with you that I
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  think there are establishment Republicans, rhino, sure, you want to call them that would
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  not want a Ken Paxton would have wanted a Cornyn to win. Sure. They also don't usually
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  flood money into Texas because they don't believe that Texas is a legitimate race in
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  which a Democrat has a shot to win. Usually money is not flooded to the degree that it's
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  being flooded right now. There are a lot of people saying that spending on Texas is actually
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  hurting Republican chances in other places because we usually don't have to do it.
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  And one of those issues, and I think this is the fairest one to put at Paxton's feet,
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  he's not a great razor of money himself.
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  He's not a great at getting people to write him checks.
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  I don't think he's been truly great at that for most of his career.
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  He's really good at the work.
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  He does the work well.
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  He doesn't raise the money well.
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  So on his own, he didn't raise enough of it.
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  And usually the checks weren't being written to Texas because they're not used to these
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  races or they're not supposed to be this close.
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  Wayne, what do you want to say?
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  Well, I was just going to say, I think the money thing is an overblown thing.
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  Uh, one thing you could say about James Talarico last night is not
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  only did he do it, right?
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  And sure it was friendly, but, but there were Republicans in the audience.
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  After he did it, he stayed around and shook hands like a politician does, you
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  know, kissing babies and shaking hands still works.
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  You meet a candidate.
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  And sometimes I met candidates who I didn't know and I talked to him for 30 seconds and I walked away going what a slob
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  That guy is right. So right, you know
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  Any of you got for companies of the radio and you go
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  Lost opportunity. Yeah
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  Look there are opportunities in races to tell people what you believe
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  yes, and
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  and not just assume that a lot of people who are not engaged in politics, probably not
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  as engaged as you are, or call her, right?
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  They're not as engaged as her.
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  But those are the people you got to get to come on your side.
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  Those are.
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  That's it.
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  Well, and honestly, and Wayne, you said this before, and thank you, Sharon, for the call.
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  Before you said that he could have a platform if he wants one, and you're right about that,
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  I remember something about the Trump campaign in 2024 that was so effective was landing
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  on these podcasts. The young 20 something podcast guy who has a big young 20 something
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  guy audience and Trump was all over at the Theo Vons of the world and I think it
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  really benefited him and Paxton could be finding his Texas version of some of that or getting
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  a guy like Wayne Dolcefino with his own media presence and company to do one of these interviews
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  that could go viral. That's really all he needs more so than trying to get an ABC or
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  a CBS or a CNN outside of Fox News to actually talk to him.
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  Yeah. And a lot of times I think Trump who understands our business very well,
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  yeah. Right. We'll throw a grenade into the soup because he knows that's what's
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  going to get attention.
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  Sure. But then people will then want to go to find the speech online to see if the
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  headline in the clip is actually what he really meant or what did he say before and after.
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  In the social media world now, you don't have to even worry like in Houston whether if you
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  have a press conference in channel 13 and two and 11, probably don't even come.
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  They don't even come because they have one guy working for all three stations who they
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  pay to go shoot it and then it doesn't even get used because they don't like politics
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  in local TV.
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  Right?
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  And so if you do that, if you think about it that way, there are so many places for
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  Ken Paxton to sit where it will be tough but fair.
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  And I invite him every day.
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  And like I said, I'm willing to do, I shouldn't say this because this is bad for business.
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  I do it for free.
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  That is bad.
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  Let's just sit down and talk about it because I think Ken Paxton will be a better senator
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  for my value.
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  Of course.
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  Yeah, we definitely believe that.
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  We got even a close call.
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  Yeah, not even close call.
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  We have more calls.
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  We will go to Michael.
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  Michael wants to chime in.
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  What do you want to say, Michael?
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  Yeah, I was just wondering as far as Paxton versus Talarico.
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  Yes.
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  Their fiscal assessment.
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  I mean, it seems when we're talking about money, money for Texans, what is the difference
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  between Paxton versus Talarico as far as bringing in or saving Texas money.
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  What do you mean by it? Can you give me a little bit? One of the big things I think
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  in the world of how either of them would impact the economics of Texas would be
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  their stance on oil and gas just personally. And taxes. And taxes.
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  Talarico does also support an income tax in this state but what do you mean
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  beyond that. I don't know if you're asking a question where you have your
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  own answer to it. Do you have your own answer to this or is this just an open
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  question? Well, doesn't Talarico have like a 30% score on his vote as far as his fiscal
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  record versus, you know, like Paxton. I mean, I know he claims 5.1 billion in
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  savings and 552 million have actually put him even put into the general fund.
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  Well, I mean, I think he has a career F 30% score since 25. And a lot of it is also just because of
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  spending, to be honest, Talarico supports a whole lot more spending for the
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  Sure.
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  Than Paxton does. Go ahead, Wayne.
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  Yeah, look, we want affordability, right? So, hey, all you fools out there,
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  You will elect these Democrats your taxes are going up
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  Period end of story. Yes, you are voting against your own
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  affordability
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  Self-interest, right if you can't figure out that this Iran war is not going to be a forever war
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  That one way or the other after the election. We're either gonna kick their arse, right?
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  or we're going to cut a deal.
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  Talarico said we should end the war.
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  Look, I love this surrender campaign.
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  We should honor the sacrifice of our troops
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  by just saying, Iran, we're going to leave.
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  We're going to pull out of the Middle East
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  and we trust you to not charge people for oil
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  And we trust you to spread the love of the profit all over the area.
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  Yeah, and I can give two specifics because I think that is part of what the caller is asking for.
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  So there was the death tax, if you remember. I think this was a 2025 argument that once someone
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  passes away when they hand over their money, when they send everything they made over their lives
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  to their relatives, to their family members, there was a bill that would try to tax all
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  that money a second time, even though it's already money that you paid taxes on.
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  Talarico absolutely supported secondary taxes on inherited wealth. He also very much supported
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  income taxes in the state of Texas and tried multiple times, either voting yes or no to
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  individual bills, to open that door to where we would have a state income tax that would
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  hit every single one of us. Two of the biggest reasons that I think Texans for
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  fiscal responsibility give him an F
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  Our willingness to vote to harm those who inherit money,
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  the willingness to harm anyone in the state via an income tax that doesn't exist.
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  And one of the biggest reasons that people like me who live other places
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  are so excited to move to Texas is the fact that I don't have to pay the state any money.
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  Like that is one of the nice ones that you think about when you get here.
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  It's not the only one, but he wants that to go away.
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  Yeah, let's make life more affordable.
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  Let's elect the people that want me to pay more in taxes.
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  I think I just did my IRS thing late.
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  I had to save $60,000.
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  I had to pay $60,000 more on my taxes.
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  And when I do that, I want to come on the radio with you and sort of shake everybody
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  who is within the sound of my voice to ask, what the hell are you thinking?
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  I like that.
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  Michael, does that answer the question better?
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  Are you still there?
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  Okay.
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  Does that give you a more definitive answer
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  to what you were looking for?
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  Yeah, I mean, we keep talking about social issues,
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  but when it comes to what really affects,
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  at least me, it affects most people.
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  It is money.
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  Yeah.
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  And, you know, Paxton managed to bring some money,
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  he managed to bring money back to Texas.
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  And it just seems to me that Talarico is promising to spend more money and more tax
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  dollars versus.
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  Amen.
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  No, it's.
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  Thank you very much for the call.
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  But he's just crystallizing what I've been arguing.
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  The closing message has to in part be to use all this CNN stuff he said to then show you
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  his voting record.
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  Yes.
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  Right?
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  Pick two or three of you think the most indicative of Democrats who have never seen a tax dollar
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  they don't want to spend somewhere.
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  Yeah.
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  But also it does two things.
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  One, it reminds people, number two, it gets into the fight over his authenticity.
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  Because last night he was not being authentic about what he actually believes.
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  Yes, 100%.
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  He is not being authentic about what he believes.
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  He's not doing that on CNN.
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  He's not doing that in his commercials right now.
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  He is flip-flopping.
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  I don't blame him.
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  He's flip-flopping in the 11th hour and he's expecting people are stupid enough to go with
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  it.
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  We got to take a break.
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  It's the voice of Texas.
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  We are the mob guys. I am Craig Coglianese. He is Wayne Dolcefino
• 22:43
  I think we're just gonna start saying it publicly too because we're coming up with a great idea
• 22:47
  What we want is a half an hour sit-down
• 22:51
  Ken Paxton Wayne Dolcefino at your office or wherever I guess we can make you go to him
• 22:56
  I'm gonna Austin. Okay, there we go. Wherever wherever he is
• 22:59
  You'll go we set up cameras. We got microphones
• 23:03
  We do the whole thing and we air the entirety of the conversation right here on KSEV radio Wayne Dolcefino
• 23:09
  Ken Paxton one-on-one it would be awesome. Yeah, look and look
• 23:15
  He knows that I'm gonna ask him all the questions that he knows the media wants to ask him
• 23:21
  Yeah, yeah, you have a chance even the worst question
• 23:25
  You have a chance like people call me all the time reporters like the Galveston Daily News
• 23:30
  They hate me like left-wing freaks
• 23:34
  I am and on the front page of the Galveston Daily News more than child monsters
• 23:39
  Okay, wow, and so they call me and it's always a gotcha phone call
• 23:44
  Sure. Now a lot of people will say I'm not gonna answer Galveston Daily News little vote
• 23:50
  No, tell them I'm busy right? I always pick up the phone. That's awesome. I will always
• 23:55
  fight them and tell them that I think they're freaks.
• 24:00
  They don't put a lot of what I say in the newspaper,
• 24:04
  but I record the calls, so someday I may just do it
• 24:08
  just for entertainment's sake.
• 24:10
  But you've got to engage.
• 24:13
  Look, reporters ask stupid questions.
• 24:16
  There's a lot of people that are reporters
• 24:18
  that are just spies for one side of the political aisle.
• 24:21
  But you've got to be prepared to at least look like you're willing to take questions.
• 24:30
  Yes.
• 24:31
  If you can't argue, like I get to advocate my positions all day long.
• 24:37
  I believe what I think, what I say, you've got to be prepared to defend it.
• 24:44
  Yeah.
• 24:44
  No, amen.
• 24:45
  I think that it would be great if we could do it.
• 24:47
  And we would do the entire thing here on the radio, the entire thing through your media
• 24:51
  company. You have the fancy cameras. You have the nice office so he could go to you. You
• 24:55
  could go to him. We could make it happen. And we could have [unclear]. We could do it
• 25:00
  on the couch. We could have Ken Paxton, [unclear], and then maybe put a little mob guys
• 25:09
  in the KSEV logo. Well, and the big part of this and the thing I think we've been talking
• 25:16
  about, Talarico, of course, for anybody that hasn't been listening to the show and just
• 25:19
  tuning in now on CNN last night for like the town hall that did not challenge him enough.
• 25:25
  Did he come off in a way that probably benefits him?
• 25:29
  Did he come off like an eloquent guy?
• 25:30
  Yeah, he did.
• 25:31
  We'll both admit it.
• 25:33
  But I think that there were multiple opportunities where people did not ask him questions that
• 25:37
  he should have been asked.
• 25:38
  There's another thing we were talking about.
• 25:39
  I sent a clip to Russell and he's got it.
• 25:42
  He's ready to go.
• 25:43
  It's CBS's reaction.
• 25:45
  Now what's so funny about this, and it includes Shane Gillis' actual joke, the standup comedian,
• 25:49
  And just to set the table, Shane Gillis has now hosted SNL three times.
• 25:54
  He was hired and fired by that place for something he tweeted out
• 25:58
  before he was even remotely famous.
• 26:00
  One of those things.
• 26:01
  So he was hired as a writer.
• 26:02
  They fired him before he started.
• 26:04
  So it was a big deal when he finally hosted the show, because, you know,
• 26:08
  SNL was acknowledging they made a mistake and that he's famous and
• 26:12
  and valuable enough to be there.
• 26:14
  And every time he's done it, the left has been mad.
• 26:17
  And now this time the left is more mad than ever.
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  Good.
• 26:21
  Yeah, right.
• 26:21
  Because of a joke that Shane made.
• 26:22
  And I kind of think Shane's doing it on purpose.
• 26:25
  But here's CBS mornings talking about the controversy and then playing Shane's joke.
• 26:32
  Also, I haven't been in the gym in so long.
• 26:33
  I didn't know women just dress like whores now.
• 26:37
  Nervous laughter greeted comedian Shane Gillis after he made this joke on Saturday Night Live.
• 26:43
  And don't look.
• 26:44
  You're not allowed to look.
• 26:45
  For real don't look because they are filming.
• 26:47
  I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now.
• 26:52
  Now he's in the background of even more.
• 26:55
  Social media immediately announced, including celebrities like former SNL
• 26:59
  cast member Ego Nwodim, singer Maren Morris and actor Dan Levy.
• 27:05
  Women wearing shorts, shorts.
• 27:07
  The gym does not make them whores.
• 27:09
  I can stop it. You can stop it.
• 27:11
  The funniest thing about Dan Levy specifically, because he was one of the
• 27:14
  bigger names that went out there and that's the guy who's he's the gay son
• 27:17
  writer of Schitt's Creek which is a real TV show I just say a bad word yeah he on
• 27:24
  his own television show had one of his characters make jokes about how hoary
• 27:28
  women dressed at the gym one of the the female mom characters would make jokes
• 27:33
  about that so Dan Levy has made the same joke and things that he's written but
• 27:38
  he's allowed to do it. Shane Gillis is not.
• 27:41
  Well, but we lost our sense of humor. And you know, I came from like the all in the family
• 27:47
  Archie Bunker generation, right? And we made fun of everybody because it's funny.
• 27:54
  It's called a joke, right? It's same thing with Trump. Trump will say a lot of things
• 28:02
  that is like he feels when he's in front of a crowd, he just feels like he's a stand-up comedian.
• 28:08
  that he wants to like tell a joke and like me,
• 28:13
  he doesn't really care whether you think
• 28:16
  it's appropriate or not.
• 28:18
  I can't keep up with all the whining of people
• 28:23
  that if I say, gee, you look really pretty, right?
• 28:28
  Like I don't compliment the men in my office
• 28:30
  when they get dressed.
• 28:31
  No, here's the stuff that people don't talk about
• 28:33
  and pretend isn't true anymore.
• 28:34
  Men and women are different.
• 28:36
  Men are, I know it's shocking Wayne,
• 28:39
  men are more visual people.
• 28:41
  I know a lot of women that say the biggest reason
• 28:43
  they like some guy is not what he looks like,
• 28:46
  but how he treats her or something.
• 28:48
  There are a lot of guys I know who their favorite thing
• 28:50
  about their current girlfriend is what she looks like.
• 28:53
  It just happens to be the way that people behave.
• 28:56
  I'm glad the robots are gonna take over
• 28:58
  and we'll just be told who we can have sex with
• 29:01
  because it's getting a little too complicated.
• 29:03
  No, but and to be honest even further,
• 29:05
  What's kind of amazing about this like I think I have a finger on why this happens
• 29:10
  Why there are people I know
• 29:12
  Young women that I know younger women 30s 40s 20s a couple that are rather attractive
• 29:18
  mostly like mid 30s
• 29:20
  That are so mad at the way that they feel that men treat them like objects that instead of just objectifying
• 29:27
  Right instead of just like complaining about that
• 29:30
  They purposefully dress provocatively to go to a place to be hit on to be mad
• 29:36
  They set the scenario on purpose so that it can reinforce their anger and let them let it out
• 29:42
  I think we all need a better way to release
• 29:46
  Whatever our anger is then trying to find somebody to fight with because that's it's really what it is
• 29:51
  They're trying to find some dude probably a guy they don't find attractive because he was attractive
• 29:56
  They'll probably let it go, but if he's not attractive
• 29:58
  if they want to yell at him and fight with him in public and let that be a thing.
• 30:02
  Yeah I was looking up the definition of objectifying is to treat a person as a thing, tool or physical
• 30:11
  object rather than as a complete human being with their own thoughts, feelings, rights
• 30:18
  and agency.
• 30:19
  Yeah.
• 30:20
  That's way too deep for me.
• 30:21
  I gotta be honest.
• 30:22
  Maybe I'm just a boomer but I see a good looking woman.
• 30:23
  I'm not looking at her without saying, I don't care what she thinks.
• 30:33
  I just think she's hot.
• 30:35
  One of my favorite, I remember this from a few years ago.
• 30:38
  It was a college friend of mine who's a very attractive woman
• 30:40
  I one of my favorite posts I ever saw on Facebook was when she admitted that she got mad at some dude for taking a picture
• 30:46
  In public she was walking by she was probably dressed in a in an awesome outfit one that Wayne and I would enjoy and
• 30:52
  The guy took a photo and she says publicly that she went crazy about it
• 30:56
  And then she realized his family was behind her and he was taking a photo of his family
• 31:02
  Already not her and I was like it is amazing that you're putting this out there publicly
• 31:07
  Because she was the type of person that was so self-obsessed that everything was about her
• 31:11
  And again, she was attractive so probably was something you and I are clearly not deep enough
• 31:18
  Okay, we are animals
• 31:22
  We both have been infected with toxic masculinity. Yeah
• 31:27
  Maybe me a little more than you know, there are stories about there's newspaper stories
• 31:32
  All right. So yeah, there are a lot of newspaper stories. So I don't understand what the hell happened
• 31:40
  that I'm not allowed to like make a
• 31:43
  Judgment about whether or not I think a woman's attractive because I'm not like
• 31:48
  Recognizing that I don't know what's going on in your personal world. You're not about psychology nonsense
• 31:55
  You're not allowed to be a guy to be to be honest
• 31:57
  There's a lot of things out there in the reaction to this right now where I'm watching some dudes
• 32:01
  because I do have a TikTok and actually I've been putting some of our clips on TikTok and they're not doing that bad
• 32:06
  For an account that doesn't really have a lot of followers. Yeah, they're like getting a couple thousand views
• 32:11
  And so what I think is really interesting about it is I'm seeing a lot of the dudes out there
• 32:15
  Who are complaining about Shane Gillis and they're the type of guy you'd probably expect them to be they're not really
• 32:22
  You know the kind of dude that's comfortable being a guy
• 32:26
  They act more like a girl and I know that's horrible to say or whatever you are
• 32:30
  I can't you add this this narrow mind the beta male is what they call them
• 32:36
  And I don't know what the goal is there outside of maybe making women like your opinion
• 32:42
  Because I think the guys who are pretending they don't find this funny because I think by and large most dudes probably find this funny
• 32:48
  The guys that don't are saying that you know what I'm trying to make the women like me more by agreeing with them
• 32:54
  Yeah, look I don't care if the women don't like me because I'm a guy
• 33:01
  There's a lot of fish in the sea.
• 33:04
  There's a lot of fish in the sea.
• 33:04
  And so, look, this goes to one of my themes of my life,
• 33:11
  is that we have become a society that needs shrinks.
• 33:17
  I'll be honest with you, if you're, when I was single,
• 33:21
  if you were a beautiful woman, I did look at you and
• 33:25
  objectify you as a beautiful woman.
• 33:28
  I didn't think to myself, I wonder what's going on with her family life.
• 33:32
  Well, you know what's also funny about that?
• 33:34
  If I see you in a Target and you're dressed in the tightest little short pants and a crop
• 33:40
  top shirt and you're attractive, I am going to look at you.
• 33:44
  But if you're dressed in a hoodie, you're disgusting.
• 33:49
  It's terrible.
• 33:50
  We have Bart on the phone.
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  I don't know what he wants to say.
• 33:52
  I think it's about married couples.
• 33:53
  Bart, what do you want to say?
• 33:55
  I just saw a thing reporting the record low number of married traditional couples in America now.
• 34:02
  Did you see that?
• 34:05
  I mean, it's so long these women have said, we don't want men, we don't need men, we don't even like men.
• 34:09
  And the men said, you're right. We don't either. We don't like you girls either.
• 34:13
  And I think they're just saying, forget it.
• 34:16
  Yeah. Well, you know what's really sad about that, Bart?
• 34:19
  I've seen another stat that says something like 60 70 percent of young women say they're in a relationship and only 30 percent of guys
• 34:26
  Do and the reason why is there's a lot of women who think they're dating a guy that they're not dating
• 34:30
  Okay, I got an outdated go ahead. Can I say one more inappropriate things?
• 34:35
  I've tried to Chuck tried to put as many of those inappropriate things in one show as possible as possible
• 34:41
  I think this is important
• 34:45
  We are men
• 34:46
  who are married know or in a relationship know that marriage is not a democracy.
• 34:55
  It's not.
• 34:56
  That's true.
• 34:56
  It's not.
• 34:57
  We somewhere along the way, the women took charge.
• 35:02
  They did.
• 35:03
  That's the way it is in my marriage.
• 35:04
  My wife is in charge.
• 35:06
  Yeah.
• 35:06
  Okay.
• 35:07
  And that that is something that we need to come to grips with.
• 35:12
  The reason men don't really care is because they've talked to other men who are married
• 35:17
  who say once you get married, you no longer have control.
• 35:23
  Yeah.
• 35:24
  You know what's really funny about that?
• 35:25
  Financial stats back that up.
• 35:27
  In marriages, women make most of the big financial decisions according to the end.
• 35:33
  I know we all decide together, but they say that women are more influential.
• 35:36
  No, we don't.
• 35:37
  No, we don't.
• 35:38
  Really?
• 35:39
  Can I say something?
• 35:40
  I like you and I do this radio show. Yeah, so we could talk honestly. Okay. Okay fine fine, right?
• 35:46
  So let's all every guy out there is listening right now is one
• 35:51
  No, I know. Well, thank you for the call Bart
• 35:54
  We're getting a lot of feedback in your line too
• 35:55
  I'll say it this way and the reason that it happens in my marriage is I don't want her to be upset
• 36:00
  Like cuz then that'll be worse like if I make the decision and not her she's gonna complain about it and then complain again
• 36:05
  next day. Can we do a whole show complaining about women? Because I think this is not,
• 36:10
  this is too quick. We're running out of time. Happy wife, happy life is real because, and
• 36:15
  my wife is very sweet, but she does, it just sticks there. And it's so much easier to just
• 36:20
  like buy the car she wanted than to buy the car I wanted. Of course. Yeah. It's called
• 36:25
  getting along because we don't want that kind of drama, right? Right. And how that's become
• 36:31
  like something.
• 36:34
  That's why when I hear people that I hang around with here who say, you're objectifying
• 36:39
  women.
• 36:41
  You're doing this.
• 36:43
  You're, I swear to God, you need like a shrink handbook.
• 36:47
  We should have a ... Donald Trump should put out a pamphlet on screwed up, soft, wishy washy
• 36:54
  people.
• 36:55
  Well, the funny thing about it too is like we are because that's how we're built.
• 36:59
  Like I am looking at a woman and gauging her level of attractiveness
• 37:02
  I am and if you're telling me and if you're telling me that I can't then what I actually have to do is pretend
• 37:08
  I'm not I'm not actually gonna stop doing it
• 37:10
  It's in my brain like I remember this just happened a couple weeks ago
• 37:13
  My wife and I were at a target and a woman came in wearing almost nothing and like well
• 37:17
  Maybe she had just gone to the gym and like I did I did do that like a little bit of that
• 37:21
  I didn't do a lot of it Wayne. I just sure you were like following her down the
• 37:25
  Five aisles.
• 37:27
  I did a little bit of a head turn,
• 37:28
  because you notice somebody that's not wearing
• 37:30
  a lot of clothing that's attractive,
• 37:31
  and you can't not look.
• 37:33
  And then my wife like hit me in the rib
• 37:35
  and like yelled at me for a little bit.
• 37:37
  Now I have to look.
• 37:38
  I told her, I'm like, it's human.
• 37:40
  Like that is also very human.
• 37:41
  I think it's very masculine.
• 37:43
  How do you not look, at least?
• 37:45
  And they're asking you to pretend you don't see anything.
• 37:47
  It's toxic, you're toxic to masculinity.
• 37:50
  I think you're toxic.
• 37:52
  I'm a horrible person.
• 37:53
  You're racist.
• 37:54
  Right.
• 37:54
  You're a supremacist.
• 37:56
  You're a, I'm never minded.
• 37:58
  Yeah.
• 37:59
  I'm equal opportunity.
• 38:00
  I will check out all races, Wayne.
• 38:02
  I don't know if that makes me racist or not.
• 38:03
  You can call me any, this is breaking news.
• 38:06
  Call me any name you want.
• 38:08
  I do not care.
• 38:10
  No.
• 38:11
  Right.
• 38:12
  Well, now, and it's just so crazy again that this is such a controversy because the other
• 38:15
  way to talk about it is to show this very common joke in comedy right now from other
• 38:20
  comedians that are not getting a bunch of pushback because they're not Shane Gillis.
• 38:24
  The left doesn't like him because he's made jokes that are nice about President Trump.
• 38:29
  They don't like anyone who does.
• 38:31
  Look, they are in to kill.
• 38:34
  I don't mean it like in a murder way.
• 38:36
  I mean, politically kill.
• 38:38
  They think the things you spew on this show, the disgusting, horrible, toxic, narrow minded
• 38:49
  things that you spew. I try to protect us from your spewing.
• 38:54
  You do. I'm the problem.
• 38:57
  That you're the problem because in the next few generations, it ain't going to matter
• 39:03
  because we're just going to be robots. The robots are going to tell us what to do and say.
• 39:09
  We're going to have to ask the robot permission, is it okay that I am physically interested in that woman?
• 39:18
  I think that's our future, right?
• 39:20
  Am I allowed to say that?
• 39:21
  Am I allowed to think in my brain?
• 39:24
  Well, and what's also so funny about this is like you can use so many examples that
• 39:27
  go beyond just us saying the obvious that everybody knows.
• 39:30
  Like when you look at advertising, if you want a man to buy something, put an attractive
• 39:34
  woman in the ad.
• 39:36
  No, do the trans thing again.
• 39:37
  That worked out so well.
• 39:38
  I think the trans thing.
• 39:40
  Yeah, if you want a woman to buy something, show it, I think what they said in marketing
• 39:45
  is show that it makes you look younger.
• 39:46
  It's about you and how you look but for a dude it's it's who we're with it's like oh if I buy that soda
• 39:53
  Cindy Crawford is gonna hang out with me great, then I'm gonna go ahead and buy Pepsi. That's all it is for us
• 39:58
  I think these evil thoughts you have
• 40:02
  That's a marketing study. That's not even me. No, I think to think about marketing is actually shameful
• 40:09
  Yeah, I think that's right when you think about it people who go into marketing
• 40:13
  are
• 40:13
  are the kind of people that exploit others for the benefit of their products.
• 40:19
  They are.
• 40:20
  And I think in the new world that's being created, all marketing should not be allowed
• 40:26
  because it's not fair.
• 40:28
  By the way, there is a podcast out there with Shane Gillis reacting somewhat.
• 40:33
  We can't play it.
• 40:34
  It's a lot of bad words.
• 40:35
  I love bad words.
• 40:36
  But I know I do too.
• 40:38
  But during it, he's asked what he has responded to like this controversy by saying, and apparently
• 40:43
  he was on a group chat that included NBC representatives.
• 40:47
  So NBC Saturday Night Live, they're the ones pushing him to apologize.
• 40:51
  His own management team was a part of it.
• 40:53
  And Shane didn't know that SNL or NBC was on the group chat and he said, bleep, no, I'm not apologizing
• 40:59
  for anything.
• 41:00
  They can go bleep themselves, NBC, and they're on the group chat.
• 41:06
  And so they saw that message that they can go bleep themselves.
• 41:09
  And I'm a big believer in saying that.
• 41:13
  I love to tell people to their face when I think, look, I'm doing an investigation in
• 41:19
  Corpus real quick and people who watch me know that.
• 41:22
  And I've been asking for records from Corpus for about seven months.
• 41:26
  Okay.
• 41:27
  And I have never talked to the city secretary once, no one, she has never returned a single
• 41:36
  phone call from any of my staff in seven months.
• 41:40
  And under law, she is responsible for providing public information.
• 41:46
  She will not talk to me.
• 41:47
  I did call yesterday afternoon and told the poor girl that answered go tell your
• 41:53
  lazy boss
• 41:55
  That if she doesn't call me back in 10 minutes, I'm going to sue her and I'm and she didn't call me back
• 42:02
  Yeah, I I went I went for the wild card
• 42:05
  So I I told her I said look when I sue and it's coming
• 42:10
  I want you to remember this phone call right that I gave her one last opportunity
• 42:16
  Wow.
• 42:18
  Act like a person who taxpayers are actually paying.
• 42:23
  The arrogance is so insulting to me and I will sue because they deserve it.
• 42:33
  But it's amazing.
• 42:36
  It's amazing how we've lost control of the plot.
• 42:40
  Yeah, we have.
• 42:42
  And honestly, the best way to get it back is this way.
• 42:45
  I do think the culture war is the one the left has unfortunately won over the last few years
• 42:51
  Compared to the right, but I think it is shifting and when you look at younger people and I talked about my nephew before
• 42:57
  20 year old a kid that all the time tells me he doesn't get some of the crap that goes on with
• 43:03
  How much like and he's a he's a young white man. He's the bad guy. Well, yeah, I'm poisoning him to be different
• 43:10
  But what I love about that is when he also tells me that it's kind of ridiculous, like this woke thing is stupid,
• 43:16
  or this, the white guy's the bad guy is dumb, the message isn't landing as well in this generation as it did on mine, on millennials.
• 43:23
  And hopefully that helps fix the problem, because yeah, Republicans took their eye off the culture war a little more than we should have.
• 43:30
  Yeah, but we've also taken our eye off the voting war.
• 43:33
  Look, James Talarico, voting record is a matter of public record.
• 43:39
  Yeah.
• 43:40
  And so when I don't see it, I say to myself, well, maybe it's not as bad as they claim.
• 43:49
  That's why when I see someone not leaning in to the fact that if James Talarico is
• 43:55
  your senator, you will raise taxes, you will open the border.
• 44:00
  Don't listen to the nonsense that he spews, the scripted stuff.
• 44:05
  Look at how he votes.
• 44:07
  Yes at the end of the day and I say this with all due respect to Ken Paxton who actually met
• 44:14
  That's the time with him in his house actually like him
• 44:17
  Is it doesn't matter whether you're the coolest dude?
• 44:21
  Right, or you served in Iraq or you did this in this people want to know that you are authentic about what you believe
• 44:29
  Mm-hmm. I have more respect for Bernie Sanders because I may think he's absolutely nuts
• 44:37
  Right. But I believe he believes what he says.
• 44:42
  Yeah, he's consistent. He wouldn't back down from his beliefs in the 11th hour if it makes him more
• 44:46
  likely to win an election and Talarico has. And by the way, on the border specifically,
• 44:50
  because you asked about voting, he voted against Senate Bill 4, 7, Bill 602, 1403, 888, all of them
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  would have made the border more secure here in Texas. All of them he said no to. It's one of
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  several things he's kept saying no to with the vote. Where are those commercials? I don't know.
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  They need to be out there.
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  All right, that's it.
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  We're done.
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  Our show is over.
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  That was so quick.
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  It was.
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  Thank you to everybody who called in.
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  Thank you to everybody who's a part of it.
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  You're back tomorrow, yes?
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  Are you traveling?
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  You know what?
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  I don't know what I'm doing yet.
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  I don't know where I'm going to be.
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  We might have won.
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  I could be in a hotel room.
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  Gotcha.
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  I could be at a gym.
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  Go.
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  I think we should do a live shop in the gym.
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  I think we should both go to the gym.
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  With the women.
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  And we should go to the gym with the women.
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  All right, talk to you guys next time on The Voice of Texas,
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  KSEV radio.