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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, November 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November nine. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: and now a guy whose future consists of elevated levels
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  Speaker 1: of trick to fan Jay Peace. We are a week
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  Speaker 1: away from Turkey Day. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on
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  Speaker 1: this Thursday afternoon. As the Jaguars get ready to host
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  Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers in week eleven, We've got a show
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  Speaker 1: for you tonight. Jeff Lackman always with us. Tony Boselli
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  Speaker 1: coming up at four thirty today, he'll join us on
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  Speaker 1: the program for the Steelers Jaguars preview. Steelers the last
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  Speaker 1: remaining undefeated team in football in the NFL, at least,
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  Speaker 1: the Jags have dropped eight straight with a one in
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  Speaker 1: eight record. Luton's third start. We'll go over a little
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  Speaker 1: bit what happened last week and what do it expect
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  Speaker 1: from the Steelers defense this week. The Jaguars defense has
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  Speaker 1: a test this week against Big Ben. Yes, but the
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  Speaker 1: weapons outside as well, and we'll see what the secondary
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  Speaker 1: you can do. Go around the FC South the Doug
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  Speaker 1: Moron Show. At five o'clock today, the head coach will
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  Speaker 1: join us from t I A A. Bank Field. Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Logan joins us from his home studio now and loves
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  Speaker 1: here we go on Steelers week. What's up? All good man,
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  Speaker 1: all good? It's a beautiful day in paradise. And can't
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  Speaker 1: wait for the l trip to Fane What do you
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  Speaker 1: what do you call that? The l trip to fain Haze,
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  Speaker 1: you know? Or the sure Yeah, something like that. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's look. I love Turkey Day. That's my my
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving this by far my favorite holiday. Be goes. I
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  Speaker 1: like to eat, and I like to eat a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and I like to eat Thanksgiving. Are you a Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: dinner guy? Are you a Thanksgiving lunch guy? Yes? Both, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I am. That's exactly what I am. J P. See,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta have it at lunch so that then you
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  Speaker 1: can get, you know, the dinner with it. And then
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  Speaker 1: also you can have maybe even a little snack late
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  Speaker 1: at night, or or an extra dessert late at night.
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  Speaker 1: Those those leftover turkey sandwiches slathered in mayonnaise with with
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  Speaker 1: white bread, Oh my goodness, those are the best. Can't
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  Speaker 1: you can't wait for that? Now? I can eat Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: leftovers for a week. I don't care. I mean literally,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, give it all to me. Cornbread, cast roll
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  Speaker 1: green being cast role. Turkey ham Greens. I love them all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I can eat it for what time you
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  Speaker 1: all eating next Thursday? I might have to swing by
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like we might be deep in the woods
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  Speaker 1: where nobody can find us. Good idea these days, A
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  Speaker 1: little guy it to the game and everything coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We've got plenty of preview stealers, Jaguars. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the big league news this week, and something that Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: have already had to deal with earlier this year. The
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  Speaker 1: entire league will now go under intensive protocol for COVID
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  Speaker 1: nineteen the rest of the season. That involves masks on
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  Speaker 1: the practice field, virtual meetings if possible, or the largest
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  Speaker 1: room possible for meetings. And they're trying to keep players
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  Speaker 1: as safe as possible for the stretch run here to
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  Speaker 1: try to get all these games in. But now logs
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  Speaker 1: every team in the league will have to go through
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  Speaker 1: this for the final month and a half. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty intentive undertaking. And with the uptick and
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  Speaker 1: the COVID numbers, the league wants to be ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the curve, so to speak. And I think it's the
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  Speaker 1: right decision for the league and also Roger Goodell came
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  Speaker 1: out with a statement and made some comments about it,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to be difficult because there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of teams that, you know, because they said you can
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  Speaker 1: have meetings that are in a very big room that
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  Speaker 1: is like an approved situation, or it can be outside. Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: you can't have meetings outside in Green Bay when the
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  Speaker 1: winds are the windshill is sub zero. So the Florida
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  Speaker 1: team certainly are going to have a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an advantage there of of doing some of those type
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  Speaker 1: of things. But I think it's the right thing, and
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a challenge for the league to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get all the remaining games in with
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  Speaker 1: the uptick that's happening. I mean, it's like every day
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  Speaker 1: now when we when we are looking at the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Wire for news, there's something happening almost multiple times in
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  Speaker 1: the day when it comes to COVID, whether it's somebody
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  Speaker 1: coming off the list, whether it's a positive, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: guys going on the list because of contact tracing. But
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  Speaker 1: it's certainly much different jp when you agree than the
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  Speaker 1: first month of the season. I mean, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very different, sure, and you know, fortunately at least so far,
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  Speaker 1: there only been those earlier cases with the New England
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  Speaker 1: and Tennessee that were that caused the big schedule shifts.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't had to do much of that. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: getting to the point where it will be really difficult
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  Speaker 1: to do that if there are changes that have to
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  Speaker 1: be made because of a game missed or moved or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: because all the bye weeks are about to be gone
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  Speaker 1: out the window. That'll be a challenge moving ahead. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hope we don't have to go down that path. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to the Jaguars this week. The injury report
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  Speaker 1: just came out today and three Jaguars did not practice today.
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  Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy for the second straight day with a knee issue,
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  Speaker 1: did not practice. Le Viscus Channel the wide receiver with
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  Speaker 1: a hamstring issue did not practice yesterday or today, and
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  Speaker 1: then cornerback C. J. Henderson was limited yesterday with a
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  Speaker 1: groin issue but did not practice today. Some other guys
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  Speaker 1: came back that had some time down yesterday or limited yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: A few other of those kind of guys on the list.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of names on the list this week, but
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  Speaker 1: a lot of players limited. But those three guys not
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  Speaker 1: practicing and against against a team like Pittsburgh, certainly every week,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly against the team like Pittsburgh. You'd love your
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  Speaker 1: full assortment of weapons on both sides of the football logs.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not a good sign when you have guys
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  Speaker 1: out on on Thursday. No, it's not and it's not
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  Speaker 1: good when they are trending in the wrong direction. You
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  Speaker 1: want to see guys that might be not practicing on
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday and then maybe limited on Thursday or limited on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday and then the full practice on Friday, and you're
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  Speaker 1: not seeing that, and that's kind of a concern. O'Shaughnessy
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit of a concern also because, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he was a guy that essentially was getting if I
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  Speaker 1: remember correctly, JP, he was getting almost one day off
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  Speaker 1: a week because he's recovering and coming back from the
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  Speaker 1: A c L reconstruction. So they were kind of giving
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  Speaker 1: him what is sometimes termed a maintenance day, and for
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  Speaker 1: him to miss two consecutive practices acted back. The one
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  Speaker 1: positive positive, and it was really a positive, is that
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  Speaker 1: you've got some some pretty good depth at that tight
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  Speaker 1: end position. Maybe not a guy that can catch a
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  Speaker 1: lot of balls like O'Shaunessy, not that he catches a
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  Speaker 1: ton anyway, But I'm a big Ben Elson fan. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's done a very good job. He's the undrafted
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  Speaker 1: rookie from North Dakota State who started the season out
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  Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Eventually was elevated because they exhausted
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  Speaker 1: their two elevations free elevations off the practice squad in
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  Speaker 1: the first two weeks, and they brought him up. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a good football player. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a nice fine and I think he's a similar type
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  Speaker 1: player to O'Shaughnessy, but he's obviously doesn't have the polish
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  Speaker 1: or the experience that a James O'Shaughnessy has. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's hear from head coach Doug Morone. The Steelers at
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  Speaker 1: nine and oh and considering what the Jaguars did in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay last week, had a fourth quarter lead, probably
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  Speaker 1: could have or should have won the game, but they
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  Speaker 1: did not. They scared the Packers a little bit, though
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  Speaker 1: Packers won that game. And centering that Ron expects the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers to be locked in, but they'll be ready to go,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not you're not gonna, you know, catch him
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  Speaker 1: or anything. Like that. Um, you know, it's not an
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  Speaker 1: issue with whether you know what I'm saying. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the weather will be fine, it's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be you know, degrees, and you know how to sell,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, sometimes an advantage when when you
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  Speaker 1: have those teams coming from up north coming down here. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just think that, you know, sporadically, it's
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  Speaker 1: been fortunate that the games have been tight, but um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're we're We've got a lot of challenges
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  Speaker 1: this week in all three phases that we play. He
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  Speaker 1: was referencing the all time series history tied twelve to
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  Speaker 1: twelve between these two franchises and the regular season. The
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  Speaker 1: Jackson of course have the two playoff victories over the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers as well. There's a nine of those Steelers team.
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  Speaker 1: But lives, they're not blowing teams out, they're winning, they're
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  Speaker 1: moving the ball, they're very effective on offense. But they
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  Speaker 1: have played a lot of close games this year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and even one of the close games was against the
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys team that was playing like a third team quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: So but look, it's the National Football League and they
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  Speaker 1: are undefeated. And I can tell you this JP I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what the stats say. I don't care what
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  Speaker 1: the scores say. This Pittsburgh defense is for real. You
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  Speaker 1: turn the film on. They're big, they're strong, they're tough,
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  Speaker 1: they're physical, they're fast at certain positions, and they are
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  Speaker 1: an absolute nightmare for opposing offense. And the stats back
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  Speaker 1: it up to their ranked I think number one and
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  Speaker 1: one different defensive categories. And some of the defensive categories
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  Speaker 1: can be a little bit repetitive, like sacks per play
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  Speaker 1: and the number of sacks in the league that they're
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  Speaker 1: both number one in. But here's just a little sampling.
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  Speaker 1: Tackles for losses, quarterbacks, hurries, pressures, hits, and sacks, first
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  Speaker 1: downs allowed opposing quarterback per enage there are number one
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And then also in takeaways
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  Speaker 1: their number one, and then fourth down efficiency their number
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  Speaker 1: one as far as the opponent's fourth down efficiency allowed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that is crazy. And then when they're
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  Speaker 1: not number one in a category, there at least top
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  Speaker 1: ten in every other category like yards allowed and third
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  Speaker 1: down efficiency. So this is a really good team, there is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a team that's very hard to focus
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  Speaker 1: in and say, okay, we have to control this guy,
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  Speaker 1: and we have to provide extra attention to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that he doesn't end up disrupting our offensive game plan.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that. You have t J. Watt, and
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  Speaker 1: you got Bud Dupree and defensive tackle or left n
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  Speaker 1: Stefond to it, and then Hayward and then you go
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  Speaker 1: back in the back end, you got it's uh Fitzpatrick
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  Speaker 1: who they acquired from Mommi Dolphins in a trade. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a really good Pittsburgh Steelers defense. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even talk about the inside linebackers, which are pretty
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  Speaker 1: good too. So this is by far the the toughest
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  Speaker 1: challenge for the Jaguars offensively yet this year. And it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a tough day because Pittsburgh can get very
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  Speaker 1: creative and they can bring it when they're not being created.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a it's a day in which Jake Lewton
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  Speaker 1: had better be on his game in the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: had better be on their game because if they're not
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  Speaker 1: on their game, it's gonna be ugly. Yeah, So do
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  Speaker 1: you run the ball a little more? Do you just
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  Speaker 1: try to balance it out like normal? Do you change
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  Speaker 1: what you think is normal for this offense considering that
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  Speaker 1: front seven. Yeah, you have to be able to run
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  Speaker 1: the ball. You have you have to be able to
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  Speaker 1: have a high completion percentage, as high as you can
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  Speaker 1: even Oh, the Pittsburgh Steelers are number one and opposing
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  Speaker 1: quarterback completion percentage as far as how low it is.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a tough matchup. It's a tough matchup for
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  Speaker 1: anybody in the National Football League to where they're playing
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  Speaker 1: defense with the Pittsburgh Steelers. But no question, you have
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  Speaker 1: to be able to have James Robinson be a factor
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  Speaker 1: because if he's not a factor, can you imagine the
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  Speaker 1: load that Jake Lewton is going to have to try
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  Speaker 1: to try to carry with his offense. It would be
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  Speaker 1: nearly impossible. So, and I'm sure that the Pittsburgh Steelers
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  Speaker 1: when when they talk with their defensive coordinator and Mike
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  Speaker 1: Tomlin got in front of their team, he talked extensively
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  Speaker 1: about James Robinson and limiting James Robinson and making sure
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  Speaker 1: that he's not a factor in this ballgame. Because when
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  Speaker 1: you listen to a head coach's press conference, you can
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  Speaker 1: get a usually pretty good gauge on where he's at
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  Speaker 1: as far as game plan Wise when he talks about
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  Speaker 1: an opponent and he singles out one player like he
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  Speaker 1: did with James Robinson this week. It's a big focus,
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  Speaker 1: certainly for the Jaguars offense. He's one of the great
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  Speaker 1: running backs in the league this year and should be
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  Speaker 1: a candidate for Rookie of the Year. Some of those quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: they'll have a little more flash, and the way things
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  Speaker 1: are going right now might not help his cause. There
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  Speaker 1: you know a little more on this offense too, real quick, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about Rookie of the Year. There's no question
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  Speaker 1: that James Robinson has numbers and Edwards Hilaire is a
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  Speaker 1: very popular guy because he plays for the Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs and also, by the way, the Kansas City Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: are the defending Super Bowl champions and oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: they're arguably the best team in the a f C.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if the Pittsburgh Steelers have no losses
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  Speaker 1: or not. You could make the argument that Kan's City
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  Speaker 1: is better. But uh, there's a lot of a lot
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  Speaker 1: to overcome. And the thing that's going to be incredibly
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  Speaker 1: hard to overcome for James Robinson for getting the Rookie
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  Speaker 1: of the Year first and foremost as he plays with Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, that's the reality. It's a smaller market, it's
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  Speaker 1: a football team that hasn't won a game since Week one,
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  Speaker 1: and it's hard to get any attention. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how good you are when you're playing on a team
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  Speaker 1: like the Jaguars are playing right now. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: the when you look at all of the the polls
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  Speaker 1: and the rankings and everything, that Jaguars are falling way
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  Speaker 1: down the list, and a lot of people in the
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  Speaker 1: country don't even pay attention to the Jaguars. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of NFL fans right now don't even know who the
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars and James Robinson is just because there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a team that's at the bottom of the pack,
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  Speaker 1: and that's not a good situation to be in. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: plenty of show ahead. We'll come back in a moment
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  Speaker 1: and get into this Jaguars defense and their matchup this
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  Speaker 1: week with Big Ben and the weapons outside for the
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. We're off and running. Tony was Elliott for
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  Speaker 1: his fan before, you know, right right up to when
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I became a Jaguar. Uh So, I'm excited about this
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  Speaker 1: week and uh you know, I finally get the play
• 18:42
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• 18:46
  Speaker 1: So that's definitely a big accomplish movie that I can
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  Speaker 1: write on my checklist. It's Josh Allen today discussing his
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: former favorite team, Pittsburgh Steelers, is currently a member of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course, we'll face the Steelers for
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the first time coming up this Sunday. Welcome back Jaguars,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Happy r J P. Shadrick with Jeff Logman, Tony Bose
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Elliot four thirty but eleven minutes away and then five
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: o'clock the Doug Moron Show Today. You know you can
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: always talk about, hey, you need to get pressure, pass
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: rush all this well, good luck with this offense in
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because Ben Roethlisberger has the quickest release in the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: league this year, on average two point three one seconds
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: time to throw. According to next Gen Stats logs, he's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: getting it out quick and he has playmakers that can
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: make plays after the catch on the outside. Well, he
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: definitely has a full arsenal of weapons. James Conner is
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a good back, even though he hasn't gotten a lot
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of toats with the Rock and last couple of games.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: But Eric Ebron we know very well from the Indianapolis Colts.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Bans McDonald's another good tie it end even though he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: on their COVID list. Juju Smith schuster Is is a
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: dynamite wide receiver, tough, physical. Deonte Johnson is a guy
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: or Johnson had a second year receiver out of Toledo
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: last week had over a hundred yards receiving. He's a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: good football player, young player. And then Chase Claypool, who
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: was their first pick in the draft this past spring
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in the second round out of Notre Dame. I mean,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about a big dude now six four,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty forty pounds. He can play inside,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: he can play outside. He is leading all rookies and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: scoring with nine touchdowns, two of them rushing, seven of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: them receiving. So yeah, bet big Ben's cut some weapons
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: now and some serious weapons, and I think an amazing
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: accomplishment with Ben Roethlisberger in the last couple of weeks
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: this year is is seventeen consecutive non losing season. I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: think about that, seventeen consecutive non losing season, mean that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that's unreal and it just goes It's not just about
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, but it's also about an organization that has
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: been one of the best in the National Football League
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for many years and certainly one of the best in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the in the free agency era. Them and the New
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: England Patriots are always right at the top and one
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: of the most respected franchises I think around the league,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and for good reason, because the Pittsburgh Steelers have always
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: seen to have done things the right way, model of
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: consistency and winning. And you can even go back you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: mentioned the free agency era, but way back before that,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: obviously they were They struggled in the sixties there and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: then seventy two they started winning. From seventy two to
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: right now, Lougs, it's forty nine seasons. They've only had
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: seven seasons with a record below five hundred. That's that's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: really remarkable. With and they've had what three head coaches
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: in that time. That's part of its Yeah, Chuck Noll
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and obviously Bill Kauer, who now is on CBS pregame,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and and Mike Tomlin who just passed the Tony Dungee
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: on the all time win list. It's been an amazing
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: run for the organization and a lot of people would say, oh, well,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they're just lucky. Well no, I mean they they have
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: made great decisions and they have made very methodical decisions.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: They've picked the right leadership in the organization and that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: makes a big difference. And I have a lot of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: respect for the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, JP. When I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: grew up, the Pittsburgh Steelers were in their heyday, the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Steel Curtain heyday. I was a huge, huge Jack Lambert fan.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a giant Steelers fan, but I was more
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of a fan of the players, and obviously when they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: winning as much as they were back in the seventies,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, it was hard not to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: pay attention to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, I kind
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of grew up in Redskins country, and the red Skins
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: had a few teams that were pretty good, and my
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: dad was a big Redskin fan, but as a kid
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: growing up, it was for me man Jack Lambert, tough
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: as nails, wanted to be like him, wanted to hit
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: people like him. That was my guy growing up. Let's
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: touch a little more on this Steeler's offense. We talked
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: about the weapons outside. They do have running back James Conner,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: who has been effective when he's touched the ball this year,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: had three one yard games in the first six games
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of the season. Since then, they've tailed off a bit.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Last three times out there forty seven yards, twenty two yards,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: thirty six yards for him. He's still running at a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: four point two yard average, five and fifty six yards
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: for the year, five touchdowns, and they just haven't run
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the ball a lot lately. The last three weeks especially,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: they really haven't had too I guess, yeah, well, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: go back and you look at him as a team.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: In the last three games, they've combined the combined rushing
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: yards on those three games d and thirty eight yard.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's not much. That's not much at all. And Mike
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Tomlin talked this week about how there's gonna be a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: conservative effort and that they need to get back to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the focus and the intensity in the running game, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: so I expect the Pittsburgh Steelers a roll up in
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: here and try to have a heavy dose of James Conner,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: but at the same token also to have some balance
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because you've got one of the most experienced, better quarterbacks
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League in Roethlisberger, and he's playing
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: at a very high levels. I think he's ranked like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: ninth in the National Football League this year. But when
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you watch him on film, he's real calm, real calm,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: very sure of himself. And seventeen years in the league,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do that because after seventeen years, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: probably have seen just about everything a defense can throw
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: at you. And when you're surrounded with a lot of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: talent as a quarterback, you don't feel the pressure it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You probably need to be the guy all the time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Just just get the ball in the hands of the
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: people that can make some things happen, and he's got
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: some people that can make it happen. I should have
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: asked you this earlier. We were talking about those those
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: guys on the outside. But the matchup defensively for the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Jaguar secondary, how do you approach it this week? With
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: so many weapons out there. Uh, there's a great question,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and I don't really know the answer to that because
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna be available, you know, with C. J.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Henderson being on the AJA report, did not practice today. Actually,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: we just get breaking news here, Logs, I gotta jump
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in here. We just got word from the PR Department
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the Jags have placed C. J. Henderson on injured reserve
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just now. So just down, came down a moment ago,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: so he will not be available this week. C J.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Henderson officially on injured reserve for the Jacksonville Jaguars with
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a groin injury. Lugs. Wow, Uh, well mean here's the deal, Uh,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you've got with C. J. Henderson out, My guess is
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: is that you're gonna play some type of combination of
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: obviously opposite of Sidney Jones, of Chris Claybrooks and Trey Herndon.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to go to one of the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: rookies that you have next unless you elevate somebody from
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the practice squad. And and the two rookies that are
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: remain are Luke bark who who was only active for
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: one game I believe, and he didn't even play in
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that game, and then Scott, who was a fourth round
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: pick out of Michigan State, hasn't aren't even been active
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: on the field at all, you know. So that's a
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: tough that's a tough situation to be in because the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers have three legitimate wide receivers that can play
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: football now, I mean, I'm talking three legitimate wide receivers
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a challenge for this Jaguars defense. So, uh, well,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that's a shame with C. J. Henderson. I thought he
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: played well this pass game. He's been very inconsistent though,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I think, very up and down in his performance. Now,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: go back to the opening week, he was Wow, it
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: was like, Holy cow, the Jaguars hit a home run
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: with this guy. And then he disappeared for a week
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and then he had a good game. We thought he
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: had a good game what against the Texans, and then
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden this past game. Uh, he did
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job with the calls, fumble, made a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: couple of physical plays. But you know, the one thing
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: he's not doing much of his contesting balls. He was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit more competitive this past game. But yeah,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that's it. It hurts I mean, because now you're you're
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: starting to go Obviously when you go back into the depth,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you're not nearly as good as what you are when
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you lose the starter. And CJ's starter. Yeah, he'd been
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: battling some like a shoulder issue at one point and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: now obviously the groin issue different. I mean, yeah, the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: shoulder has been going on all year long. He's had this. Essentially,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's a to give you an idea. When the player
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: has a hurt shoulder, you try to keep the shoulder
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: from being out of and away from the body much.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And so c J with the shoulder problem that he had,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: he was wearing a device that it goes around the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: chest of the player, and then you have a cuff
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that goes around the upper arm, and then there is
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: some kind of attachment. Back in the day, it used
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to be strings that went from the arm cuff to
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the body part, and then nowadays they have a more
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: of an elastic type of device that attaches to the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: cuff around the upper arm to get to help keep
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: it stronger into the body. And c J had been
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: wearing that, but this is completely different. This is has
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the shoulder growing and and JP.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I don't remember him coming out of the Green Bay
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Packers game. To you, I don't, I really don't. I
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: think he played all the way through. I'll double check
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the snap count, but I don't remember him missing. To
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, Yeah, that's kind of unfortunate situation.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Let me check real quick practice. I guess I don't know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Let's see the last week on defense. C J. Henderson
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: playedent of the snap sixty four sixty five. He missed
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: one play. Okay, I don't tell you what it was,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: but he missed one play? Right? Did he come back
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and come back? I don't know, hudos, but either way,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Andrew Deserve just announced moments ago by the Jaguars for
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: cornerback c J. Henderson and a tough matchup. It's got
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: even tougher this week. Let's come back in a moment
• 29:37
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• 29:40
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  Speaker 1: the opportunities there for us. You know, when we're playing
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  Speaker 1: an elite team like Pittsburgh, Uh, they're not undefeated. Um,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: just because their defense, they're playing with great team effort. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They they're physical, they can run, they pursued to the football,
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  Speaker 1: but most of all, they're really sound and what they do, UM,
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  Speaker 1: they protect the edges very well. Those outside linebackers, their
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  Speaker 1: line inside linebackers can run their inside defense and I'm
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  Speaker 1: in our big and strong Heyward's one of the best
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  Speaker 1: in the business at his position. UM safety uh Manko
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  Speaker 1: is doing a heck of a job of just being
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  Speaker 1: a ball hawk. And obviously their corners are holding up
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  Speaker 1: very well. So really not a lot of weaknesses there.
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• 34:34
  Speaker 1: now on the program. Just got news moment ago Tony
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that C. J. Henderson has been placed on injured reserve
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: with a growing injury. So the matchup this week for
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the Jags secondary was tough anyway, just becomes a little
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: bit tougher there, Tony. Yeah, I had heard that there
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was issued possibly UM with him coming out of practice yesterday,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So not great news. Obviously, you need all the bodies
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you can get. UM. You know, they did activate and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you gonna talked about d J. Hayden off
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the i R. But they have twenty one days to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: bring him back up. My guess is he's probably not
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in shape and probably not ready to roll out there
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: day one or week one against the Steeler. So it
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a tough matchup no matter what, because
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they can spread you out with all those receivers, UM
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: play poles, really good rookie Smith, Schuster, you know, you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: just go down the list of guys they have, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: then in the backfield, you know James Conner and probably
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the one that was orchestrating the whole thing is Ben Roethlisberg.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: He's playing at the highest, maybe the highest level of
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: his career if you look at the numbers and production,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and is a bona fide m VP candidate. So this
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: was not gonna be easy. And uh and I think
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the biggest thing guys and loved to hear Jeff perspective
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: on this. I'm sure he's talked about it after the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: performance they gave against green Bay where green Bay was
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: probably sleepwalking a little bit. I promise you Mike Tomlin
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: is putting up that score in that and reminding them
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what can happen, and by the way, also reminding them
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: how they almost lost the Dallas who's not a very
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: good football team. Um, And so I highly doubt they're
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: coming in here, um not ready to play. Yeah, it's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: not gonna be a trap game for the Pittsburgh Steelers
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: by no means. And Mike Tomlin talked about that. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: here all, if you look at the roster of the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, many of these guys remember what the Jaguars
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: did to him just a couple of years ago and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: essentially took them out. And so I'm sure those guys
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: are remembering that. And I can't wait for this opportunity
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: for maybe even a little bit of payback from a
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: few years back for this Jaguars football team. One o'clock
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: kickoff time this Sunday, next test for Jake Luton, and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what a test it is, Tony against the Steelers defense.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the offense and all the weapons and their production,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: but well, these guys can get after you too, certainly
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: up front. Well and if you look at last week, UM,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I thought the tackles struggle a little bit, especially in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the second half against Preston Smith and scenarios Smith and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: really got squeezed. It was highlighted at the end of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the game. But if you watch the tape, UM, the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: pockets started breaking down much earlier, earlier than just that
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: last drive. UM. And if you thought that was a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: tough matchup, this is tougher. T J. Wats one of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the best edge rushers in all football, but Duprez in
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: another contract here he was franchised UM, and they and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the differences also this in which is major. They have
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Cam Hayward pushing from the inside and so it's a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: really good units. One of why they're one of the
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: best sack UH have one of the best sack totals
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I think it's a great opportunity
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you for these tackles, because if
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you're Cam Robinson and you want to prove that you're
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: a franchise left tackle and that you deserve to get
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: paid in the upper teams low twenties, like in David R.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: R just got these are the games you have to dominate.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: But you have to come out and say, hey, um,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: di Gridon slide away from me. I got this guy.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I can lock him down the whole game. And if
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: you if you're Joan Taylor and you want to be
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a guy who's respected it as a premier right tackle,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you have to be able to match up with t
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: J want because the greatest compliment a coaching staff can
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: give you as an offensive lineman, and I'll just speak
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: as a tackle is when they say, um, we're not
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: gonna game plan, We're just gonna bock. You'renna block that guy.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And I have told this story many a time. Jeff
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: was there on the team in ninety six when Kevin
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Gilbright basically had no game plan for Bruce Smith and
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the only comment he made was, you know, five minutes
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to go into UH meeting the night before saying, hey,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Natron and James, on your way out to the routes,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: take a peek and if you if you can get
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: a chip, great um. And that's the greatest compliment, as
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: they left tackle you can get when you know it's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a premier matchup and they say we have confidence in you.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And if these guys, these young tackles, especially camps in
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the contractor here, wants to be considered that this is
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the game you have to go dominate. You have to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: go shut the guy down and say, I'm gonna erase
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: bud Dupree from the statue. I'm gonna be the realist here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You're being very kind when you said that they didn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: play very well at the end of the stretch of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the Green Bay game. In fact, that's one of the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: reasons why the Jaguars didn't have an opportunity to win.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: It is because of the protection of the tackles down
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the stretch. It was. It was poor and earlier this
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: year jump in real quick. I was actually saying, not
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: just down the stretch where you're saying, I agree. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: thought it broke down much earlier than that. If you
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: watch it, it was starting to squeeze even late in
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the first half. Going into the second half, we were
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: getting the edges were getting soft. That's my point. I
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: agree you, I'm saying, and I think it's disappointing big
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: and here for two reasons. One the Smith brothers, even
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: though they're not brothers. One of them was pretty good
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and that was the area and Preston was not playing
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that well. But then you know the right tackle, Jawan
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: ends up giving up a couple of pressures to Rashan Gary,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: who who for some reason, Tony Jawan sets him soft.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: When Rashan Gary is not a speed guy, go get him,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you know, attack him, go to him with power. And
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I think this week t J. Watt is a legitimate
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year candidate in the National Football
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: League and it's hard to argue that he's not. He's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: right up there with Aaron Donald and uh, I would
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: probably who's the other guy that's up there at the top,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: sax Wives, Uh, the guy in Cleveland Garrett, Myles Garrett.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, those three guys are the three best defenders
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: playing in the league this year. And and t J.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Watt has, you know, the tackles for losses, the pressures
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and the quarterback hits that are better than Miles Garrett
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and obviously the guy in in l A, which is
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: an absolute beast, and I think he's still deserving of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it because he gets doubled and triple teams all the time.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: But uh, you know, look, Tony, I I would love
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: to see Cam Robinson to be able to step up
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and go I can block that guy, just let me
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: take him one on one. But have we ever seen
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: him do that? Too? Far less less more inferior players. No,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor, have we ever seen him shut anybody out?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: We've seen him play really well at times, but to me,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: those two guys have got to pick it up. You
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have a legitimate opportunity to win the game in Green
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Bay and all you have to do is protect the quarterback.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Protect the quarterback, give a chance. And he's a young quarterback,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: so that I want to give you even more motivation
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to block your guy, to give him more time. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it was a disappointing performance. And at the end of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: that game, Cam Robinson had the shoulder. I don't know
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: if it's gonna bother him this week, but that's a
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: concern because he's going against Bud Dupree, who is a
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: very strong, physical guy, and Cameron Heyward, by the way,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: big and strong and physical, and he's gonna line up
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: right on top of Cam Robinson at times defont it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: We've seen that where Juwan Taylor has gotten in trouble
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: has been been when he's been pushed back into the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: into the pocket, been into the lap of the quarterback.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And Stefan too. It might be stronger than Cam Hayward
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and t J. Watt is a heck of a pass
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: rusher and he will bring a physical aspect as well.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So this is a tough matchup this week. You know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we hope that the tackles can step up, and they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: haven't shown any sign of it yet. Jeff, I guess
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: my I agree to your assessments is dead on. I mean,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's accurate. My point is if you it's almost
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a challenge to those two guys, because if you want
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: to be considered an elite player and you want to
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: be paid as an elite player, that these are the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: games you have to do it. It's not against the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: run of the mill guy anyone who got there and
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: lock those guys. I mean, it's against the premier it's
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the big matchups, and I think it's a mindset and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I think one of the things that was, I guess
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: disappointed the best way to say it. In that Green
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Bay game, they were they were losing based on their
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: sets and how they at the snap they had lost.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: If you ask me, based on the technique and the
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in the way they are setting those individuals, to your point,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: very vertical, very soft, opening up the gate really soon
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and giving. By the way, none of those guys, Darius Smith,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Present Smith, and Rosan, none of them are speed rushers.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: If you watch them rushing, they rushed to the man.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: They're not going on the edge. They're not trying to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: run the law the long loop. And so you have
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to set flatter and you have to expand the pocket.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Now this is a different game, especially with t J.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: T J. Watt can beat you with speed and power,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: but you better get vertical and with at the same time,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: otherwise you're gonna be end up in the in the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: in the lap of um the quarterback. So to me,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it was disappointing from this endpoint, I don't think they
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: gave themselves much of a chance based on technique. But
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: if you want to be different and you want to
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: be separate yourself, boy, this is a great opportunity, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that what I hope to preaching to him. Here's an
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: opportunity for you to establish yourself as a elite player
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: going against another elite player, and that's how you that's
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: how you distinguish yourself in this in the in the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: NFL Can Robinson by the way, on the injury report,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned lugs with the shoulder issue limited yesterday
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: but practice full today. That's a good sign moving ahead
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars left tackle. Let's come back in a moment.
• 44:40
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• 44:43
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  Speaker 1: Earlier this week Jaguars Happy Hour continues. He was asked
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  Speaker 1: it as a contract here for him, so he was
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: asked about his thoughts of the upcoming offseason, and Tony
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: was Selly, Jeff Logman, I'm j P. Shadrick. Welcome back
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: to Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. He made an
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: impact in last week's game, certainly on the offensive side.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: He had a touchdown catch, but that ninety one yard
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: punt return. It was a huge, huge piece of the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Jags being in that football game last week. And Cole
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: stepped out and played pretty well this year. Tony, Yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: for the most party has. I mean it's an interesting
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: careeries have. I mean the outstanding rookie year seventeen and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you know in the fast start with the one handed
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: catch and then he like he literally disappeared for like,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you know, like a year and a half, Like where's
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Gelan Cole? Like do I where? I think some of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: us thought he might get cut last year. UM, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: he's come and he's come out this year and played great.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a bona fide, real deal third receiver. UM.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: And obviously you can make an impact on special teams
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: as well. So I think he's doing pretty nice things
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: for his future earning power. I mean, I don't think
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: he's ever gonna get paid big, big bucks, but he's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: gonna pay get paid well because of Um, he's a playmaker,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: is speed. He's not a physical player by any means, UM,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: but he you know, he's a nice piece of the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: puzzle and uh, definitely a player that you can win with. Yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: he did a did a really good job in the game.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: And what I like about him is that he's got
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: some versatility and he's always willing to do whatever the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: coaches asked him to do, whether it's play a gunner's role,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: whether it's to block, whether it's to return kicks in
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: any fashion, and he's got courage when he does it.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And i'd like to say that he had an amazing
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: punt return. It was because it was ninety one yards
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and it's a career long and it's a record for
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, But he had a he had a lot
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: of really good blocking. In fact, it's a play that
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: I took into the Football Lab for Jack's Ward last night,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: and JP were actually gonna put it on tonight show
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Jaguars All Access as well, so Tony you can tune
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: into it as well, learn a little something about special
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: teams because you never played special teams ever in your
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: career and protection that was the only thing you ever did.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd call that special teams, but
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: it was a It was a great job up front
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: because there were four guys on the punt return team
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: that ended up wiping out three of the guys and
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: coverage and it was the center, the right guard, and
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: then the right tackle. They didn't even get down the field,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: so you had this huge gap for Keilan to find.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: And then you know, when you get people on different levels,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: it makes it a lot easier to make cuts. And
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: then he had to make miss and he made him
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: look silly in the process. So it was a great job.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And the play that I was very impressed with was
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the touchdown catch because he thought he was gonna get
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: absolutely blown up and he still held onto the ball
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: and you could see that he was kind of crunching
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit, bracing almost for impact, and a lot
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: of guys in that situation. This is the reality, and Tony,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you know it. We've been around a lot of guys
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and they're in that situation. They ain't holding onto that
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: ball and Keelan held onto that ball and scored a touchdown.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And and then here's the other thing. The game was
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: on the line at the end of the game. It's
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: first and ten, a little over two minutes to go,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and they run a little pick play on the right side,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: so Effort runs vertical, Keelan runs a quick slant behind him,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and it was essentially designed to be a rub route,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and so Keilan's guy got lost in the rub in
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: traffic with Tyler Eiffer and also the guy that was
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: covering him and Keelan Cole is wide over and Tony
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the protection failed. A J. Washington, if it's a house call,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: it is right, it's a house call play if you
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: get the protection, that's frustrating. That one's frustrating. Yeah, but
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are on top. If if if they just get
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the protection right there, Jake Luton sees it and he
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and he throws it. Now, maybe he also could have
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: done a better job of maybe slide and finding the
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: opening in the pocket. But nonetheless, the right side of
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the offensive line has to be better than that because
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: this is a quick slant and Tony, I mean they're
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: getting there into the into the lap of the quarterback
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: on a quick slant. I just that shouldn't happen, not
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: on a quick slant. How nice is it this? Yeah,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. How nice is it this week?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Guy's to not have to discuss issues in the kicking game.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: McLoughlin was good last week, and that's what you want.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: You want good. You don't want to have to worry
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: about changing kickers all the time anymore. Hopefully that's the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: case for a little while. Yeah, you wonder, you wonder
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: why they didn't go get him immediately when Lambeau got hurt.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad of I can't remember
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: what team, So he was, um, yeah, what took him
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: so long to get to this guy? Because he's a
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: good kicker. It's a great it's a great question. The
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I mean the first here's the crazy part with with
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions that they have. They signed him off
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: of the practice squad of the Minnesota Vikings. So they
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: signed him on I guess it was a Monday, So
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: he travels to Jacksonville. Now he asked to sit and
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: self quarantine for five days, so he quarantines from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Friday and then Saturday. Now he's allowed to actually be
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: in the building. He's allowed to meet his teammates. He's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: allowed to meet his new team, his new coaches and so.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And also, by the way, his snapper and his holder
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: and so. Can you imagine you walk into this building
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  Speaker 1: that you've never been to, and you're meeting people for
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  Speaker 1: the first time, and you're getting ready to load up
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  Speaker 1: and get on a plane to go Green Bay to Oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, kicking sustained wins with Gus over forty
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  Speaker 1: and the first drive of the game, the Jaguars sent
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  Speaker 1: you out there to kick a fifty two yard or
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  Speaker 1: in this weather, I mean, and it's a career long
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  Speaker 1: for you, and what do you do? You drill it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was it was awesome. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: a great job by Chase McLaughlin. He ends up going
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  Speaker 1: too for two on field goals, and you have the
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  Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown. You end up having three
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  Speaker 1: punts that were down inside the ten and uh, obviously
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  Speaker 1: a very good job and coverage and a very good
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  Speaker 1: job by your punner in the conditions. And so out
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  Speaker 1: of the last couple of weeks, you've gotten some big
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  Speaker 1: special teams plays, and it's unfortunate because typically when you
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  Speaker 1: score on special teams, the percentages of winning the game
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  Speaker 1: are extremely high. And you scored against the charges where
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  Speaker 1: you had the block punt, Daniel Thomas had the block punt,
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  Speaker 1: recovered fumble and then took it in for a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have the punt return for a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: with Keelan Cole and you end up losing both games.
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  Speaker 1: Which is it's a statistical I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: an anomaly, but it certainly is not where the stats
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  Speaker 1: say it should be. As far as the wins and losses. Well, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: if you add to that the winning the turnover battle,
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  Speaker 1: I believe it is a statistical anomaly. Scoring on teams
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  Speaker 1: and winning the turnover battle. Um, usually you win those games,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Final thoughts here, guys, Tony, what is your
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  Speaker 1: field for this game? Sunday? Steelers nine and O Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: one and eight matchup one o'clock Sunday at t I
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  Speaker 1: a bank field. What's your gut telling you? Tony? My
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  Speaker 1: gun is saying I'll go back to Rocky three when
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  Speaker 1: Club Lank said payne um. And I'm hoping that it
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  Speaker 1: ends up being the rematch of Cluver Lane and Rocky
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  Speaker 1: Babbo or Rocky came back and had the big upset.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping for the upset. I'm you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a tough matchup. They're a very good team.
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  Speaker 1: They can rush to pass there um, they're good against
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  Speaker 1: the runs. I think it's gonna be hard to get
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  Speaker 1: James Robinson going. Iin. They'll stack the box and say
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  Speaker 1: make Jake Luke and Luten beat them, beat them and
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  Speaker 1: trust their pass rush um and then offensively they can
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  Speaker 1: spread us out and down c J. Henderson. That doesn't help.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't look great. But you know, I said
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  Speaker 1: it last week. Any given Sunday, things can happen. Turnovers happened.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta score on special teams. You gotta do something crazy,
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  Speaker 1: maybe score on defense. We've picked off Ben a bunch
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  Speaker 1: um during his career in games, so uh, he's gotta
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  Speaker 1: have the ball bounce your way, and uh, I'll kind
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  Speaker 1: of I'll end where we started the conversation with me
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  Speaker 1: and Jeff. I put it on the offensive line, and
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  Speaker 1: it's specifically put it on the offensive tackles. You want
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  Speaker 1: to win this game. Those two guys have to play well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they play real well. I gotta play real well. JP.
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  Speaker 1: This is even a bigger challenge than Green Bay, even
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  Speaker 1: though you're at home. But the Steelers score a ton
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  Speaker 1: of points and they got a great defense. This is
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  Speaker 1: a tough one. We'll see what the Jaguars can get
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  Speaker 1: done this week, Week eleven, trying to snap the skid
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  Speaker 1: at home with the Pittsburgh Steelers coming into town. Tony
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  Speaker 1: Will will talk to you on Sunday in the Public's
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  Speaker 1: Tailgate Show Looking Forward. I can't wait, and uh we
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  Speaker 1: give Doug my best and tell him, well, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: he's listening right now, so consider the message received. We'll
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  Speaker 1: hear from Tony again coming up this Sunday on the
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  Speaker 1: Public Tailgate Show. Coming up next the Doug Marons Show.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from the head coach and get his thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the matchup this week for the Jaguars. And now
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: the week of preparation has gone again. The breaking news
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  Speaker 1: coming during the show tonight. C J. Henderson on injured
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  Speaker 1: reserve first round draft pick cornerback is not available now
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: this week and moving ahead, so big questions in the
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  Speaker 1: secondary for the Jacksonville Jaguars will discuss that coming up
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  Speaker 1: as well. For Jeff Logan, Jeff Logerman, in our entire crew,
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  Speaker 1: I'm J P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening and for
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  Speaker 1: watching Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.