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Haxxorfuxxorwarezdude: Silent Hill 2 Remake & Final Fantasy 7 Remake · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  on the screen well yes you you can the list I see no I can see the little
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  recording sign that warns me that you're trying to record what I say you can't
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  trick me into saying something illegal why would I ever trick you you just do it
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  yourself that's true I'm the one that you not to say it I should what I should
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  be worried about is not doing things that are illegal yes if you just do
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  everything everything you do is legal there nothing to worry about welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy just yeah I'm Your Role Model if you haven't done anything wrong why
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  can't Google have full access to all your stuff I'm happy for it they have access to all
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  stuff I love targeted ads you want them to listen to what you're saying
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  yes yeah like that um thing I mentioned last
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  week about the iPhone the light being mandatory if the microphone's on was was
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  in relation to I don't think I even said this last week I think I couldn't
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  remember why I'd read that factoid it was because of people saying the phones
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  are listening oh it's actually not possible on an iPhone for an app to
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  listen without that light coming on therefore you would know about it
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  because that that piece of the screen that lights up is controlled by a
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  completely separate processor on the in the phone that software does not have
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  access to if the if the mic is on that light is on yeah no no matter what you
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  tell people they will not believe it they don't need to listen but fny thing
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  about it is all these people complain that they listen they still go and buy
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  the next version of the iPhone it's true like they're still buying it yeah it's
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  cuz it's awesome but it's listening into our stuff
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  yeah yep I'll never understand that thinking Jenis phone pooped itself this
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  week oh that's s a couple weeks ago but it took us a while to realize that's
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  what was wrong just uh no reception not
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  went away from Wi-Fi mhm well not no reception just not good reception and uh
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  and and then like it just like it took her a while cuz either she's at work
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  most of the time or she's here and then it's kind of like just didn't notice so
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  much that yeah when she's not in one of those two locations and not on Wi-Fi she
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  can't make a call or go on the Internet
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  or anything like yeah so um apparently
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  s22 Ultra it's a thing the antenna just
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  justop yeah just stops working that sucks I'm thinking I want a new phone I
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  want get one of new folding phones
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  oh yeah what uh was the the Google one Google made a folding one right yeah
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  they've got one now and I'm thinking now that it's not the first one so they
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  might not have the issues of the they did the last time yeah yeah my God this
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  expensive I know I I I did look at that one I've seen somebody uh I follow
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  online not in a stalkery way like someone who posts about tech stuff you
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  follow Instagram account it's fine you're not no no I think I follow their
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  RSS feed for their blog actually
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  um has one of the Samsung big foldy ones
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  yeah and he loves it he said he tried it out as just a test because he thought it
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  was going to be stupid and he just found that he loves
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  it I can see because it's it's just a normal phone until you want to do
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  something big and then you hold it out and and I think the technolog is better
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  than when it first came out I think when it first came out you saw the creases
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  happen quite early on in their life yeah yeah he I think he said he doesn't even
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  notice that there's like a weird there is like a weird thing in the middle that
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  you if you look at it you can see it but otherwise he doesn't notice it yeah but
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  yeah no I I want one but I can't justify $2 and half thousand for a pH that's a
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  lot that's a lot I kind of wanted one of the new iPhones but mine is fine I'm
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  looking at it right now which means I'm looking at you the Watcher on YouTube
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  and Luke looking right at you but yeah like no um you don't need to get a new
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  phone every year you just want a new phone every year well I've had this one
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  for two years so yeah I try to get last
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  years and then by the last year's model oh yeah it's a good
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  idea get them cheap some buaron should we let people know our
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  secret we are what percentage did we come up with in the AMA x% gay for each
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  other that's Secret you mean right no no I meant the secret that Dan is not here
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  oh right that that's secret I was just hoping they would
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  notice oh I'm sorry I'll try and do better next time no no no it's fine I do
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  I guess his presence his absence will be felt I'm assuming yeah now he wasn't
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  able to make it this week and neither of you are going to be here next week right
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  um we might be able to work something out still okay okay all right cuz yeah
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  both me and Dan are at packs so this time when you're listening to this when
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  this comes out if you're not paying for to get it early me and Dan will actually
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  be at packs yeah yeah this will come out on oh yeah it comes out Friday Australia
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  yeah yeah good point yeah I was thinking Thursday but Thursday here yeah so do
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  you know what you've got lined up particularly at packs what's your number
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  one going to see gaming than old yeah yeah um gaming yeah well you do that
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  every day so yes it's nice to see other people who are gaming well old gotcha um
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  gaming with disability um XBox actually have a booth this year so I'm interested
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  to see what they oh they weren't at PAX East bastards yeah now they've got Xbox
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  game pass booth so I just saw that that's happening so I'll go see because
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  they they've been the big names have been skipping for a while so we've got
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  actually that's interesting we've got an Xbox article that I I don't want to ask
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  you about this we won't do it right now well yeah but it's relevant to
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  that and then um yeah and and always board games which is going to be a
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  bigger area this year you going to tournament it up I have to keep up on
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  record of losing the most tournaments at packs MH I've only won one pity
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  Medal did someone gave you this because they felt bad no I did win it but it
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  wasn't an official tournament okay who did you win it from
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  I forget I don't know who I won it from but no no it was the guy's running it
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  the packs actually put this tournament on just for me it was
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  um what the game is you got to build a pyramid and move a
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  monkey you got to build a tower thing
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  okay and I won that Rhino hero I wasn't expecting that name but
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  okay yes so it's not a monkey it's a rhino you move okay that explains the
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  confusion Y and yeah they put that on and I won that and I got a medal for it
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  there you go but it was a Pity medal you're not wearing it I see no it's up
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  on my wall oh pity metal but still up on the wall yeah still a metal yeah true
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  still earned it yeah sort of I'm I'm going to try and get one Hannah's got
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  tons of metals yeah just put some of hers up in there I
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  have all right fine you're saying this Xbox news yeah yeah yeah yeah so uh I
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  thought this was interesting and I particularly wanted your opinion on this
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  because I hadn't even noticed this was a thing which I think is interesting in
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  and of itself apparently the the the the first
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  paragraph of this article took me by surprise because I was not aware this
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  was a thing let me read this to you in 2024 when a new game is announced you
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  can usually count on it to be released on PC PlayStation and possibly switch
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  but it's become a bit less of a guarantee that new games or ports will
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  land on Xbox consoles and it seems Microsoft is aware of this and is's
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  asking devs why is that true I haven't even noticed that I haven't noticed that
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  but that's not to say it may not be happening but it's because I look at
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  stuff that's coming to Xbox so I've got yeah I wondered if that was it too but
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  yeah cuz I I was like oh I didn't know because they mentioned last month
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  enotria the last song launched on PS5 and PC but not xbo I've never even heard
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  of that but they just because it's not on Xbox so it's not on my radar I think
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  that's it cuz yeah but I know that
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  um one one de recently theyve said like we were going to come to Xbox but we've
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  had a hard time with the process so we're just not anymore okay reached out
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  to them and actually helped them do it I forget the name of the game but maybe
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  yeah I know uh I think actually mentions it in this article uh and we've got some
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  balers Gate 3 news I know balers Gate 3 had issues because they
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  demand you have uh you support and series series X and X yeah right so
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  whereas um Boulders Gate 3
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  wasn't feasible on the series S without work except it wouldn't the multiplayer
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  wouldn't work I yeah I think they got it working to a degree they just they just
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  didn't really want to compromise and they had to in the end but yeah so maybe
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  that's and I think of it Microsoft need to stop that like
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  you unfortunately you're not going to be have everything run on both I can
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  understand why they want that but if it's causing this I mean presum like I
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  said I haven't noticed this but if it's a trend I guess eventually we'll start
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  to notice so they want to kind of nip this in the butt and because then it got
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  me thinking too you know people talk about online still these days how like I
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  often see the sentiment that play the PlayStation is winning and I'm like is
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  it I don't even feel like that's a thing anymore is it just cuz I'm old I no
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  here's the thing is I think Microsoft doesn't care anymore about winning the
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  console war yeah I think the console war just fizzled out I think Sony wants it to keep
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  going but I think Microsoft as I keep saying I think Microsoft are planning
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  for the future with no consoles right right yeah and I reck and
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  I reckon there's going to be one more console generation and then it's all going to be
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  streaming and that's why they're setting themselves up with Game Pass and buying
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  all their Studio that reminds me did we talk about this
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  article the other week um no let me move this up because that's relevant too
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  there's a a new law in uh California that is relevant because it
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  it's a a law that states companies must
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  clearly um admit that when you purchase digital
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  content you don't own it ooh they have to make that more clear to customers
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  because there's been a lot of issues as I'm sure you recall with content
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  disappearing from platforms notably uh MythBusters got pulled from Sony right
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  was it yeah and then oh a bunch of stuff got pulled that that was the particular
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  example and people don't people just don't understand that when they buy
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  stuff like and I mean I don't know it's going to prevent them from doing it
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  because it is very convenient but they should know right you're not buying
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  you're buying a license to watch it and that could be taken away I always wonder
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  what would happen if they ended up buying this the license back to sell it
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  again if the people who purchase in the past still have that or if they have to
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  purchase it again through them that's interesting always wondered that cuz
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  stuff does rotate through yeah yeah yeah yeah that's common but but I don't know
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  how they can how are they going to change that like well and if you're right if the
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  future is you don't have a physical console well then you're physical games
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  cuz there won't be any how are you going to put it in yep well physical games
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  don't work oh that's a good point too oh
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  except for the switch Yeah but a lot of the times a lot of them not even I guess
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  cuz you still got to patch them yeah you're right it doesn't even count yeah
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  like you don't all you doing when you buy a disc is it's basically just giving
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  you the option to sell it on if when you finish using it cuz it's install it's
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  got to do updates and most of them are online somehow but I guess they can't
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  like if it's a game right they can't take the game away from you right a
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  sense although that's not even true either no um just recently I think the
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  crew yeah the crew um you even if you own the disc you can't play it anymore
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  cuz the servers are shut down oh but I mean okay so that's a partic that's a
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  specific example but say it's an offline game only like say bers Gate 3 right
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  bers Gate 3 the single player doesn't have any multiplayer online stuff
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  but they could still block you from
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  playing it yeah even if you had a disc
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  yeah yeah that sucks yep unless way even
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  when you buy the console it says that like you need an internet connection for it
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  yeah yeah wow that's but no I don't know like how are they going to make it that
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  people will understand that they don't own their digital stuff
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  the only way to do it is to change that buy button I think it's probably to do
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  with that is you can't say buy because they're not buying it they're renting it
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  like well not renting renting is not even the right word because you can
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  still rent them it's like a a lease
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  yeah yeah it's it's weird it's really
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  weird if compy break a loc of face fines of 2 and a half thousand for each illegal listing
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  yeah yep y even in this article it says ubisoft's actions with the crew further
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  highlighted just how widespread this issue is yeah there you go people paid
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  for thing mhm they can't have it anymore because apparently they didn't pay for
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  it they just paid permission to use it for a while until the company doesn't
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  feel like letting you use it anymore like I can understand with the
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  multiplayer stuff like if they'll keep that going as long as people are playing
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  yeah the second people stop playing it and just the costs are jusi that's when
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  they shut down servers but like yeah it's not like even cuz I was just going through
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  my head I'm like the switch is probably the current gen console that most you
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  could go buy a physical game pop the cartridge and and still play it but even
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  then that's not quite true because you still have to get patches and updates
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  because Nintendo is not perfect and then I was like oh the DS the 3DS n still
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  games got patched for that even if you had the but like the about this like the
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  creu example like you could I played this game I didn't play online I just
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  played it single player but now I can't play it
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  anymore whyde because they shut it
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  down that's bizarre and this is why it what why does
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  everything have to be online these
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  days because people do want it to be online except when stuff like this
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  happens it's like well why can't you just turn that bit off
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  yeah I don't I don't care if they are or aren't online What's um no man's sky has
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  some online stuff like I don't want that I'm playing no man Sky I want to just be
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  playing it by myself yeah and it's like um a game that came out just recently Test Drive
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  Unlimited Sol the crown I've been looking forward to this game for ages it
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  released I even brought the Gold Edition took I played a week early the game
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  didn't work oh no the servers just kept crashing and crashing and crashing I
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  finally got a refund for it but I kept trying and trying I didn't want to play
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  with other people I just want to play offline but you can't because of the
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  servers that's [ __ ] stupid and so it
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  really ruined the game for me yeah I mean I think on my PC oh yeah on
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  the topic of Boulders gate we'll get to that I think on my PC I can play
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  Boulders gate without an internet connection wonder if that's the same on
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  consoles and speaking of Boulders Gate 3 now has mods on consoles yes which is
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  interesting news and when I saw that uh it reminded me to check something not
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  because I don't particularly care about mods I still haven't finished the [ __ ]
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  game because it's on my laptop I don't play games on this very often it's a
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  very big game yeah I don't I don't think to play it on I don't when I think oh I
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  might play a game I'm like on my switch or I'm on my Xbox I don't even think
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  what should I play on here um they do have they had at some point
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  enabled ages ago when I looked they hadn't now you can save move your save
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  games or cross save basically so I can get the Xbox version yep and then keep
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  playing it on that which I might do it some point when it's on
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  sale I didn't know it work between them and Xbox yeah it goes through your laran
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  account okay that's great yeah yeah hell good cuz I thought yeah because you were
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  buying but like cuz different stores completely and yeah as long as you l in with a a
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  laran like the developer uh it'll do it that's excellent yeah but I don't want
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  to pay full price for it on Xbox no to wait it's expensive also I'm still
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  playing alen wi too yes I played a little bit more are you up to wake it oh
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  I've been I have been already I just
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  like wait are you playing like the Alan
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  Wake story more oh no no I just I don't want to spoil anything I just completed
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  the the thing as Saga that I was in the middle of and I will switch back to alen
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  wake when it's appropriate now which will probably be very shortly I played a
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  little bit the other night yeah okay yeah no yeah because
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  oh you're in for a treat oh yeah I thought you were playing it the one to
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  one chapter one chapter type of thing no forgot completely forgot I've just been
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  playing it a saga that's fine it works that way still
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  it's been I've been loving it yeah and you're going to love it even more when
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  you see the other side cuz it's a slightly different game can't wait mhm
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  especially one level that I love very exciting I will uh yeah I'll get back to that when I
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  can I've also been playing uh Echoes of wisdom with my daughter great game
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  highly recommend it the new Zelda oh yes oh and I went back to breath of the wild
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  randomly the other day and I was like canot play that game I played it I was
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  like H I haven't I wonder where I'm even at in that game I loaded it up played it
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  for five minutes and now I'm addicted again really I just I like
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  it just I just hated having to go into battle with like 20 different weapons
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  cuz they all broke sure that's not a Zelda game for me I have my
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  sword I need a master sword and that's it well you won't like Echoes of wisdom
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  then because you're playing a Zelda you
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  don't have a sword what does she use you
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  can when you encounter certain things like if
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  you defeat uh a a enemy y you can use
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  your what's it called staff of Echoes perhaps to capture its Echo and then you
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  can summon things like Pokémon not quite but sort of like if if
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  you say you walk into a room and there's a bunch of baddies you have to go okay
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  I'll just summon four snakes and then the snakes go and attack them you can't
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  actually attack oh okay yeah I don't think I'd like that I think you might
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  it's pretty good it's pretty good game but no achievements well
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  depends there's the achievement of achieving things in the game and just
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  knowing that you did no no Xbox achievements yeah I need
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  them that's
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  fair um the uh Starfield expansion came out I've installed it I have not played
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  it
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  yet word is it's not great it's fine not
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  good it's getting very bad reviews which means it's probably fine it's probably
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  just like the game I think that's probably what's happened games like when
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  something like this comes out and it gets super negative reviews to me that
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  just means it's just fine yeah cuz when yeah people basically when people out
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  there they either will vote give it a 10 or a one that's it there's no in between
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  so normally something like this like the bar was very high so yeah yeah I I'll
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  play it when I get around to it but yeah it's I think it's just Starfield wasn't that
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  great I keep forgetting that it existed to be honest I haven't even tried it
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  since I introduced the buggy so that could be fun no me either I was super
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  into it for two weeks and then I literally completely forgot that it
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  existed well it's sort of weird cuz like what I've loved like Skyrim and for that
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  games is you love exploring that's part of it but when you land on a planet
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  because it's just generated every time there's stuff to explore but it means
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  nothing yeah unless it's a story related it's so you can spend a lot of time in
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  going around the planet finding stuff but doesn't add anything and like no
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  man's sky is like that but no man's Sky's gameplay is designed around that
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  whereas starfields is not starfields is like Skyrim but with that added yeah like
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  like that's Starfield is meant to have a big story whereas um no man sky is like
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  you create your own story there is a loose story back more playground than a
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  yeah yeah yeah I'm with you yeah well it's a shame so I I will
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  play it at some stage and let you know but probably not this week yeah but yeah
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  like I agree like it's probably just going to be fine
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  mhm well something that apparently is really good and apparently is one of the
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  best horror games of 2024 which shocked me when I read this because I thought
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  this was going to be garbage apparently
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  the Silent Hill 2 remake is
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  excellent okay this review says it will blow your
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  mind and that fascinates me because when I saw footage of this it put me off
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  because the the the the nurses vaulting over
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  obstacles and stuff I was like oh no that's not how the game goes apparently
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  apparently it's it's good shame I won't get to play
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  it yet you get to play it eventually
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  yeah cuz Sony must insist on still doing
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  ex paying other companies for exclusives next year right we get it yep
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  Oh actually I could play it on my uh yeah you can play it PlayStation good
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  point like yeah you wait when is it out is it out now um if the reviews are going out
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  it'll be very very soon if it's not already out October
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  8th and normally reviews coming out this early it means that like games have got
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  out early it means that it's good they're confident that it's
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  going to be reviews yeah yeah normally if they're not confident they won't send
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  out review copy embargo will be like the day after the day of release and yeah
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  yeah get those pre-orders yeah but no this is bastards I think they're proud of their
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  work it's going to be good but yeah just I'm going to have to wait a
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  year that's a long but in saying that I might finally be getting Final Fantasy 7
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  at some point okay because they've be distracted by this now they'll
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  accidentally approve the law no rumors are going around that they like Final
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  Fantasy 16 and is coming which is also
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  Sony stole and then 57 cuz we just also got like the pixel remas of all one to
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  six games I saw that the rumors are coming around that not that we may
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  finally get it which I've been dying to play it cuz I love Final
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  Fantasy yeah and apparently the seven remake is different to yes seven which
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  is a lot more action focused yeah I don't know if I like that
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  more what do you mean action focused um I think like it's you don't have like
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  the it's a bit like future games where you control a person characters like
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  they run around and stuff it's not just that it's my turn attack my turn attack
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  I see what you're saying yeah okay cuz those games are they're quite slow these
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  days I'm trying to go through and play through like the regional Final Fantasy
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  7 at the Final Fantasy at the moment and it's hard like because you got to
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  walk around then you get into a counter and then you got to fight but the good
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  things about those ones you can speed stuff up yeah so I I played through I
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  never finished it um a Bravely Default on the 3DS which was very good and then
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  I stopped playing it but it was it's like that uh but yeah and you can hold
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  down one of the bumpers to fast forward because otherwise it's just [ __ ]
• 26:42
  tedious yeah and with those games you do need to grind a bit at some stage of the
• 26:46
  game to really but this one I can turn my experience and experience up to like
• 26:51
  times Falls so I'm leveling up very fast so everything's going to become quite easy very
• 26:57
  quickly is that a cheat
• 27:00
  ah it's in the game okay all right that's fine doesn't block
• 27:07
  achievements oh it's like a setting game setting or something yeah yeah I
• 27:11
  probably would do that too because it's [ __ ] boring yeah it's just to speed
• 27:14
  it up like I'm still playing the game but yeah it's just means it well that
• 27:18
  Final Fantasy 7 had the um Materia animations that went for [ __ ] 10
• 27:23
  minutes mhm where every time you sumon and then the first time you did it you
• 27:27
  were like oh wow this is cool and then it's like next time it's like yeah okay
• 27:30
  I've seen this y it's a skip yeah and then for it to not do a lot of damage
• 27:37
  was very frustrating I remember finishing that
• 27:41
  game that was I finished it completely good game it was yep back in
• 27:47
  the day back in the day that was probably the game I really
• 27:53
  stole someone's PlayStation for whose PlayStation did you steal
• 27:57
  should we not say let's not say okay but that was that was the one I that was the
• 28:02
  only game I really wanted a PlayStation 4 was Final Fantasy 7 does the person
• 28:06
  know that you stole their PlayStation they got it back okay mysteriously or from you
• 28:13
  specific me oh okay all right wasn't I didn't steal it steal it I just borrowed
• 28:18
  borrowed for a very long time so I could finish it okay all right that's fine just
• 28:24
  checking yeah cuz it was a very long game it wasn't something you can do in a
• 28:28
  weekend yeah know and I've told the story a million times but my parents got
• 28:32
  us a PlayStation for Christmas and that game was the one I
• 28:37
  wanted mhm and I was so excited but they didn't get us any memory cards mhm and
• 28:43
  uh I didn't want to wait so I played it
• 28:47
  and then turned the PlayStation off and then and then did it again when we got the memory
• 28:54
  cards yeah go all the way through the you know the factory the start and all
• 28:58
  that stuff down into midgar and all
• 29:03
  that again yeah at least you knew that was happen it wasn't like I thinking I
• 29:08
  can get through without without dying cuz the problem with that game is
• 29:13
  you won't die early on in a game but no
• 29:15
  it does get to a point where it gets
• 29:22
  harder yeah that's a good point I didn't even think of that I could have died
• 29:28
  yeah cuz that was when start stuff started to change from retry
• 29:32
  to just game over well know that I don't think I even knew that you needed a
• 29:38
  memory card until I got to a save point because it has safe points you can't
• 29:44
  just save anywhere yeah and then there's one in the factory the Shinra Factory at
• 29:48
  the start and you get to it and I imagine I would have been like oh [ __ ] I
• 29:53
  don't have one of those
• 29:59
  trying to see if there's any movies on
• 30:03
  at the cinema yeah should I go say joker apparently
• 30:09
  not apparently it's a mediocre Musical and a [ __ ] movie should I just watch
• 30:15
  Joker again maybe I'm not sure I mean I liked it but I'm not sure I'd even bother
• 30:21
  watching that again to be honest no cuz I don't know I'm in the thing where I
• 30:24
  want to go to movies but there's nothing on I a good movie this week yeah on uh
• 30:31
  Netflix I don't know if we've ever talked about this if either of you or
• 30:34
  Dan have seen this I think it's probably more dance thing than yours have you seen as
• 30:40
  above so below As Above So Below I will
• 30:44
  say no it's on Netflix I think and it's a movie
• 30:50
  about it's a bit like uh a bit like Tomb
• 30:54
  Raider to be honest okay mixed with The Descent have you se you remember that
• 31:00
  movie The Descent yep yeah Tomb Raider mixed with The Descent team explorers
• 31:06
  Venture into the catacombs that lie beneath the streets of Paris they en
• 31:09
  cover the dark secret that lies within the City of the
• 31:13
  Dead yep okay what that this afternoon then the
• 31:19
  main girl is uh very Loft like it's as Loft yeah they they they took the
• 31:25
  character of Loft renamed her and put her in this movie which is fine it's good fine it's
• 31:32
  got that it's got a bit of Indiana Jones it's got a bit of like I said The
• 31:35
  Descent it's got a bit of um The Ninth
• 31:41
  Gate it's got it's it's it's very good okay oh the only thing that put us off
• 31:48
  at first but it's fine is that it is technically a found
• 31:52
  footage it's shot on like shot as if they're filming it like yeah kind of
• 31:59
  like Cloverfield style yeah but some of them can be good yeah it honestly I I
• 32:05
  forgot that it was after a little while because it's done very well or did they
• 32:10
  forget that it was as well at some point no actually and there's some interesting
• 32:13
  things to do that I don't I don't want to spoil anything because this movie
• 32:16
  goes in directions that I didn't even expect it's great it's really good
• 32:19
  really clever really interesting uh a little like it goes so
• 32:25
  far into stuff that it's almost campy but it's just it's just doesn't seem to
• 32:28
  give a [ __ ] it's great it's good it's really cool okay
• 32:32
  um and there are some things I need to look up or go back I I was like I go
• 32:37
  back and watch it again or I could just look up and someone's almost certainly
• 32:40
  done this it's like because certain people have cameras in this and then
• 32:44
  afterwards I was like how'd they get all this footage and now I need to
• 32:49
  check whose footage do you actually see I know who had cameras but then I was
• 32:55
  like hang on do we see footage from all the cameras I'm I'm not sure now maybe
• 32:59
  you know what I mean like maybe they actually did think about that and it's
• 33:02
  cleverer than I think it was or they just forgot like maybe you
• 33:08
  only saw the footage from the cameras that made it to the end of the movie you
• 33:12
  know what I mean like that kind of thing yeah yeah I'll have to check yeah going
• 33:18
  to be really smart or or they just didn't think of it yeah yeah hopefully
• 33:24
  smart but it's it's great it's really good okay
• 33:30
  yeah I've got my afternoon sorted then yeah kept getting recommended but
• 33:36
  because of the found footage thing yeah like Jenna was like yeah I don't
• 33:41
  know I've like some found fo like grav encounters haven't seen
• 33:47
  that that was good I think I think it's grav encounters sounds familiar I just
• 33:52
  haven't seen it yeah Grave Encounters they just bump
• 33:57
  into to my graveyard yeah grave counts a
• 34:01
  2011 Canadian found footage Supernatural film they blocked themselves inside a
• 34:07
  abandon mental hospital oh that's supposedly haunted
• 34:13
  oo and then they made a sequel which wasn't as good
• 34:18
  haed god there new Saw movie
• 34:21
  again I I I've seen s smile to smile to I'm going to go see I didn't mind the
• 34:28
  first one I got to watch that I lik the marketing for that that was cool where
• 34:34
  they just got people to just smile baseball just smile at the camera yeah that's good very
• 34:41
  clever wait who is this person what do I know
• 34:46
  from oh oh okay who is
• 34:50
  it um the girl from that Charlie's Angels remake I was like I know her from
• 34:56
  something oh not the horrible
• 35:01
  one no no yeah yeah that's a yeah all right
• 35:08
  that's where I've seen it before never mind in the trailers not in the not in the
• 35:13
  movie not seen the movie
• 35:18
  um what do you I talk about we've got uh spotify's got a feature like do you
• 35:22
  Spotify how do you listen to music um I
• 35:26
  normally just listen to my music because
• 35:30
  sure particular tast taste yeah yeah so
• 35:33
  what do you use for that um just VLC oh okay like on your what about on
• 35:40
  your phone or you don't VC oh okay all right you just copy MP3s onto your phone
• 35:45
  or something yeah or or I will use Google music okay all right fine well I
• 35:51
  use Spotify I use Spotify or I use Plex amp yep to do my my MP3s that are down
• 35:58
  there cuz I've got some stuff that's not available on other places yes CDs from when we
• 36:05
  were kids of bands that no longer exist and things like that yes um got a
• 36:10
  quadbox CD on my desk right now oh have you yes [ __ ] show me it can I see
• 36:17
  it quad box quad
• 36:20
  box oh wow look at
• 36:24
  that [ __ ] there we go the best of quad box yep was there enough of quad box to
• 36:30
  have a best of I guess there was I think they were they sold me a CD actually
• 36:34
  they sold to me twice I lost my last one I managed to find one online a couple of
• 36:39
  months ago I keep trying to find that band nail that I used to follow around
• 36:45
  and befriended that at the time I thought were very famous but they were
• 36:50
  just a penth band Yes well we're at that age where we were following the bands
• 36:54
  around we thought were yeah but yeah and then we went to into the rehearsal room
• 37:00
  uh they they we started a band went to this rehearsal room they also rehearsed
• 37:06
  there so we said can we watch you rehearse and they were like I guess and
• 37:10
  then we just became friends with them mhm and then yeah but then at a certain
• 37:16
  point realized they're actually not very
• 37:19
  famous they we we are their fans yes but now we're not we're their friends
• 37:26
  so they just lost some of their fans
• 37:29
  yeah um but I often try to find their EP
• 37:34
  but it's obviously it's not on Spotify or anything no no you got to go like
• 37:39
  eBay and stuff and there's a few that's not a bad idea
• 37:45
  actually yeah you got to go eBay and secondhand music stores you're never
• 37:50
  going to find they're not going to go on to Spotify
• 37:55
  yeah EP pen but I forget there's also I forget where
• 38:01
  I brought this but there is like a secondhand music store and they do get
• 38:04
  this type of stuff so I'll try to remember what it is and let you know all
• 38:08
  right yeah any listeners who happen to be from Western Sydney and know what I'm
• 38:12
  talking about nail the band nail from penth I want the EP so if you have it
• 38:17
  send it to me it was on cassette I don't think CDs even existed yet potentially
• 38:22
  if they did they certainly couldn't afford to put their stuff on one I'm
• 38:25
  trying to track down a skulla EP on cassette that I had and left at my
• 38:30
  old work at Toys R Us when I left there years ago but I'm trying to track down a
• 38:35
  copy of it and I cannot find it anywhere I think CD burners hadn't been
• 38:39
  invented that's for sure oh well I think it may have been around the time I
• 38:45
  remember was probably around the time I brought my first CD burner but I didn't
• 38:49
  buy it we went in quarters so four of us went in and we brought a two times speed
• 38:56
  burner yeah right times twice as fast mate yeah because before that you had to
• 39:03
  burn it at the speed that it was like like a cassette tape we you know what a
• 39:07
  cassette tap is [ __ ] off yeah we could do it two times faster
• 39:12
  yeah cassette tapes are what I grew up with yes yep with that weird there's like a
• 39:19
  long history of records and then there's a brief window of cassette tapes that's
• 39:25
  where we we we up just that tiny little perod then CDs and then CDs cassette
• 39:31
  tapes man and now what's a
• 39:34
  CD yeah I still buy CDs I buy um
• 39:39
  soundtracks because I'm sure I've talked about this before there's a weird
• 39:43
  Phenomenon with soundtracks where often the studios will only license the rights
• 39:50
  to the soundtrack um for a certain period of time like for example a soundtrack that
• 39:56
  I there series of movies that have way better music than they deserve that's
• 40:01
  the Transformers movies y um Steve jablonsky does the music for those and
• 40:07
  the fourth movie I think it is yeah fourth movie has a very good soundtrack
• 40:13
  and I used to enjoy listening to it on Spotify and then it vanished mhm and I
• 40:18
  was trying to find out what the [ __ ] happened and Steve bonsky himself posted
• 40:22
  I think on Twitter back at the time and said yeah sorry they only do like short
• 40:27
  term licenses for these often because they don't think people will listen to
• 40:31
  them yep and so like I said often sound movie
• 40:36
  soundtracks disappear even with the Scott Pilgrim movie soundtrack like
• 40:41
  which was the songs right some of them they like when I brought the album and
• 40:47
  then I was listening back hold on it's missing tracks and yeah they just those
• 40:50
  tracks weren't there anymore yeah the licenses go yeah it's weird how that happens
• 40:54
  um this different different case Alan Wake had issues with soundtrack stuff
• 40:59
  licensing I mean different but that kind of thing yeah because yeah the the music
• 41:05
  doesn't get as long a license but I I buy every now again I'll buy like a
• 41:09
  vinyl album because I just like to have them yeah yeah though I have yeah I have
• 41:13
  CDs of a bunch I H bunch of H CDs Danny Alman just movies I like the soundtracks
• 41:19
  to you can listen to them whenever you want I have the Hackers
• 41:24
  soundtrack cuz not all those songs are available on um Spotify anymore so that
• 41:29
  the Hackers soundtrack and then I have hackers Volume 2 and three which are
• 41:36
  additional stuff and songs inspired by
• 41:39
  the movie or you know kind of like on brand there a way to make you spend more
• 41:45
  money but they're quite rare I found them on eBay I was like hackers two and
• 41:50
  then I was like oh no it's just another soundtrack [ __ ] yeah I'll have that and
• 41:54
  then there's three of them music we think you like if you
• 41:57
  brought the first one yeah yeah and it the it is and I often um like we were
• 42:03
  talking before about the licensing thing I often think I should buy movies on
• 42:07
  Blu-ray I do sometimes because they can't take those away right
• 42:13
  no but then my Blu-ray player is my Xbox yep so maybe that's not
• 42:19
  true a lot of people what people tend to do I've seen a lot of people they'll go
• 42:23
  out and just buy like a old PlayStation 3 and that's their Blu-ray player oh
• 42:27
  yeah I have one downstairs yeah I've got one as well but then like now I'm
• 42:34
  thinking this is all pointless right because yeah I've got DVDs too I've got
• 42:40
  [ __ ] thousands of the DVDs that are in a box in the basement I will never
• 42:44
  use again because they're not there's no the quality is bad but I suppose if they
• 42:49
  took all the movies away and I couldn't get them anymore I could always dig
• 42:54
  those out but the thing you're only the only time you're going to want to dig it
• 42:57
  the only time you're going to want to watch something is when they take it
• 43:00
  away like you're not going to notice it any other time you may not have watched
• 43:04
  this movie for like 10 years the second you hear they're taking it away you're
• 43:07
  going to be upset I do that though I buy movies that I love like in sales on like
• 43:14
  iTunes or whatever and I go I go ah there I have it I'm not going to watch
• 43:19
  it right now no but it's there now I go through and I'm like I'm
• 43:25
  haven't watched I've watched these movies in my life yes have I ever watched them
• 43:29
  on Apple TV where I bought them probably not no I do the same the Xbox sales I
• 43:33
  have sales every week and sometimes we get $5 for a movie oh I don't mind that
• 43:37
  one I'll grab it never watched it yeah that's a good movie that I've seen a
• 43:41
  thousand times yep yeah but what Spy
• 43:46
  movies what's that what's Spotify doing by the way oh yeah sorry Spotify uh a
• 43:52
  thing I like about Spotify I think the others all do this but I find the way
• 43:56
  Spotify does it be quite intuitive is that you can uh make a playlist and then
• 44:01
  flick it to save offline save all the songs onto your phone I quite like it's
• 44:06
  quite handy you can do it with albums now too you can do it a bunch of
• 44:11
  ways and um B problem with that is that sometimes on the iPhone it'll clean up
• 44:17
  and I think you lose stuff sometimes when you do that um and often before I go on a
• 44:23
  flight yep I will forget to um downloads
• 44:28
  some particular stuff that I'm after uh anyway they've got a new Mode
• 44:32
  called offline backup and you can turn it on and it will in the background
• 44:36
  download the stuff that you're kind of into at the moment yep preemptively in
• 44:41
  case you want it and you don't have any internet access I think yeah um we have
• 44:47
  a problem yeah no YouTube music does that as well okay yeah I thought I
• 44:52
  thought you was you get it bad to say I think I've got to go no no no so we'll
• 44:57
  your favorite music for offline listening smart downloads is always
• 45:00
  updating based on your recommendation and history and I can just say how much
• 45:05
  space I give it that's cool all right so it's got a gig that it can sort of play
• 45:11
  with YouTube music if I have YouTube premium yes yeah so I'm I'm paying for
• 45:17
  all sorts of stuff I don't yeah that's why I went that's why I have YouTube
• 45:21
  music because I had premium oh yeah course
• 45:27
  I've got playlist in here apparently um yeah the thing is I've got
• 45:32
  a family Spotify account and like Jenny uses it and we've got uh a special
• 45:38
  account for I'm not going to say her name because she's going to respond to
• 45:41
  me if I do but there's a certain little box over there that does things when I
• 45:45
  tell it to yep and that uses an account oh okay and we have like a special
• 45:50
  account for Vermont so that the little Boxers whose names I won't say because
• 45:55
  they'll respond yeah uh can be used by people up in the okay
• 46:01
  well yeah I've got the family account on YouTube premium as well yeah right okay
• 46:06
  and I only have that because I hate ads I so when I was in California a
• 46:11
  little while ago I I was like a maybe I won't renew my YouTube premium I'll see
• 46:15
  how I go maybe I up with the ads and it was I literally I got home from the I
• 46:19
  got back to the hotel from the office sat down and I went to put a YouTube
• 46:22
  video on and an ad came up and I was like I instantly got my credit card out
• 46:27
  and I was like [ __ ] that yeah it took not even a whole ad as soon as what
• 46:32
  appeared I was like [ __ ] that yep don't want to see it and it's interrupts all
• 46:37
  the times I know I have not seen a YouTube ad in a very long time yeah I
• 46:40
  forgot they put him in at the middle as well yeah yeah yeah
• 46:45
  no that's so it was jarring I was like why am I seeing this oh God yeah that's
• 46:49
  right I didn't renew [ __ ] it I'm renewing it now well same thing happened
• 46:52
  when um Prime when they started to put ads on M
• 46:57
  when watch on ad no no credit card straight out how do I pay to make this
• 47:01
  go away yeah I pay I think it's like three bucks a month here to get rid of
• 47:04
  the ads on Prime yeah I did that because I'm watching um oh [ __ ] I've got to
• 47:08
  watch the last episode of Mr Robot this is a weird coincidence right yeah I've
• 47:12
  been watching Mr Robot loving it right I've got one episode left yep the other
• 47:17
  day I'm getting towards the end of season 4 the episode I'm watching
• 47:20
  finishes I'm like three or four from the end and I see there's this notice that
• 47:24
  says uh Mr Robot leaving Prime in four
• 47:30
  days [ __ ] I've got to hurry up got one episode left imagine if you
• 47:36
  got through all that and just for to disappear that last episode that would
• 47:40
  be I mean I would just get the episode from somewhere but
• 47:43
  yeah yeah I was like oh [ __ ] that's that's like that's a weird coincidence
• 47:49
  like just timing and but but thing it's sat on there for years waiting for you
• 47:55
  yeah yeah I know I'm sure yep man I can't believe I'd never seen that show I
• 47:59
  won't go on about it again I know went about it enough great show gets [ __ ] crazy at
• 48:06
  the end okay no spoilers goes in a direction I did not
• 48:10
  expect but loving it for some reason I'm
• 48:14
  just watching Star Trek Enterprise again Enterprise not the greatest I think I
• 48:20
  canceled my Paramount plus cuz I didn't use it enough oh no
• 48:25
  this is on um somehow it's on Netflix here oh is it yeah I canceled my
• 48:31
  Paramount plus as well maybe it's different here but yeah Paramount plus
• 48:35
  the only stuff on there that I was interested in was the Star Trek stuff
• 48:37
  and I was like well yeah I kind of lost interest in in
• 48:41
  it I'll get it back once um the new season of strange new worlds comes out I
• 48:47
  didn't like that could get such a shame cuz I was like oh maybe it gets
• 48:53
  better but then everyone was like no no it just stays as stays as good as it was
• 48:56
  like h yeah okay I didn't like it yeah that's just a shame because it is sort
• 48:59
  of back to the old days of just each episode is his own thing
• 49:05
  yeah they get into trouble they solve it move on well there must there is
• 49:09
  overarching stuff there's overarching yes but because I know that there's a
• 49:13
  there's a little girl stuck in that transporter I know that's not going to be
• 49:18
  resolved quickly um I don't even think they've mentioned her
• 49:24
  again is that true I don't remember having heard about her
• 49:29
  in quite some time seemed like quite a big plot point at the time
• 49:35
  yes but evidently I've heard rumors that because I did the musical episode in
• 49:39
  season 2 I've heard rumors of doing a a muppet episode three so they're just trying to
• 49:46
  do all the Buffy yep take all the Buffy notes well angel in that case
• 49:53
  yes we have people around we have people around to watch the air Grand Final
• 49:58
  which was atrocious by the way yeah I was going to see if you watch cuz I saw
• 50:03
  the score and that's embarrassing not as embarrassing as the time I went to the
• 50:07
  scg to watch uh it was in Melbourne but we went to the scg to watch it on the big
• 50:13
  screens that was worse uh but this was still not this was still not good um but
• 50:18
  you lost by 60 points how could it have been worse I think we lost by more than that last
• 50:23
  time I think I think I think it was it was bad last time oh
• 50:27
  God yeah not good but we have people around to watch that and um like I don't
• 50:34
  know halfway through the game somebody who said by the way is that an angel
• 50:39
  puppet over there and we were like what oh yeah it
• 50:44
  is yeah it's the smile time puppet and they were like why is why do
• 50:49
  you what is that and then I was oh you haven't watched the show have you like
• 50:54
  well you haven't watched all the show certainly yes that's a
• 51:00
  thing shouldn't have been a thing why
• 51:04
  that's a good episode I know but it's ridiculous it is [ __ ] stupid
• 51:10
  but whatever well I actually going to I'm going to watch a grand final today
• 51:14
  as well but one I have no interest in either what are you watching the NRL
• 51:19
  Grand finals on today oh who's in it penth and mour my brother was on the
• 51:25
  news oh anything particular yeah the the St
• 51:30
  triple homicide or no no no no no he does the the video at
• 51:35
  uh stadiums yeah I'm not even sure all all the places he does it anymore but
• 51:40
  it's I think I'm pretty sure it was related to the to penrith being in the
• 51:43
  Grand Final ah when you said that I went oh that's why Ben was on TV y y yeah
• 51:49
  that's today I have no interest in either of the teams winning no pen pen
• 51:54
  and who else Melbourne Mel yeah the Melbourne what storm Melbourne
• 52:01
  storm that's right yes that's right they don't have a PL there's not there's no s
• 52:05
  on the end it's confusing the Melbourne storms just the only team that doesn't
• 52:10
  have you got rabitos Tigers Dolphins yeah right
• 52:16
  Steelers everyone has an S on the end except was there ever not another team
• 52:23
  no even new new town Jets yeah right for
• 52:29
  Mages Bears there you go they thought they'd do something different yep because
• 52:36
  they're from Melbourne are there other Melbourne teams no just the one yeah
• 52:39
  right it's like the opposite of the AFL yes that's why Victoria is very much an
• 52:44
  AFL State whereas New South Wells very NRL we got
• 52:48
  we I'm still in New South Welly yes
• 52:52
  wisian two teams right in AFL I think still just the Giants and the swans yeah I think
• 52:59
  so gws yeah and but no I don't pen have won the last three so I'm over them
• 53:05
  winning Melvin storm have they won the last three remember when there were the
• 53:12
  chocolate soldiers or whatever they were yes I had a jersey I won at a raffle
• 53:17
  once that was signed when they had the chocolate Jersey yeah yeah had ad
• 53:22
  um I put on eBay cuz I never want never want anything and like why no one's
• 53:27
  going to want it someone brought it for like $180 or something oh really wonder
• 53:31
  if my mom still got that I doubt it but yeah every they go money came off yeah
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  no they came off of mine as well and they still sold yeah right yeah cuz we
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  used to go to the games when I was little I just used to watch the crowd
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  apparently well I know a lot of the kids when used it was a hill that you get
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  boxes and you slide down oh yeah yes
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  penth yeah people got that's how some people got to
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  work um I need to hear about these Watch Dogs
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  glasses are you a fan of Watch Dogs I've played the game so apparently these kids
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  I say kids I don't know how old they are they're Harvard students um they created
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  these glasses that and look at this photo right they're just they're like the uh the
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  Rayban Facebook type ones where they they're a bit big frames but they're not
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  that big these things have AR things in them like
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  uh you know like kind of like the meta smart glasses they just showed where it
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  puts stuff up on the in front of your eyes it uses facial recognition and it
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  does like in Watch Dogs where you walk around you look at people and it tells
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  you their name and apparently a disturbing number of other facts about
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  them that it can get from the internet because people share way too much
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  information yeah I'm just watching one just and like walking down got a picture
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  of a guy and sort of got their home address and like all this stuff that's
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  just out there yeah
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  terrifying not terrifying in a in that like I mean this information is
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  available yes right it's terrifying that we're making this information available
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  yes and these kids were just able to do
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  this because not any or anything just from the information you shared that
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  you've got out there it can find it
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  yep yeah it's like I remember reading this thing that said that you should be
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  really careful like posting on Facebook when you go on a holiday because yes
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  thieves will know that you're away and that's the time to yeah I didn't even
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  think about that stuff don't use Facebook but yeah you should take photos
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  and then you just do a f a dump of photos when you get back yeah well I
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  don't even do that I don't post anything on Facebook no I don't but I don't post
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  anything anywhere yeah I just don't I don't I don't know I just don't think my
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  life's that interesting and yet here we are on a yeah here we are at episode 578
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  yeah this is where I share my stupid ideas yeah we share everything here like
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  everyone knows that I'm not going to be at my house this weekend oh that's right
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  you be packs yep but they don't know where your house is I know that's public
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  information I don't know I I don't even know where your house is I I haven't I
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  don't really post my house anywhere neither do I I don't know oh there was
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  Nate will remind me there was an incident where I may have accidentally
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  revealed too much about my location but I don't remember what it
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  was Nate will let us
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  know not not to him like um I don't care if he knows I think the general public
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  you know what I mean oh no I do think some listeners may know
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  where I live cuz remember when I sent
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  out coffee C mugs I put my on yeah
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  right actually that's a good point I think when we were doing the newsletter
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  that probably just had my address on it because they you're legally required
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  to so probably all right so I'm doxed
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  yeah we've all done it yeah pretty cool
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  pretty spooky but pretty
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  neat but also kind of
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  useless well it depends on what you're doing if you're
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  like a criminal or a con artist probably be useful because you could just know
• 57:44
  stuff about people and be like hello I'm
• 57:47
  your uncle and you owe me
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  money and people do fall for that mhm cuz what there's that whole schem at the
• 57:57
  moment where people just get a text message go hi it's your son and I'm in
• 58:01
  trouble I've had to get a new phone can you send me money and people do yeah I
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  know we're talking about that the other
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  day excuse me I apologize it's late here
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  um we're talking the other day about some of these scams and how you know
• 58:19
  because Jenna was like oh why do they keep trying this stuff and I'm like fall
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  for it CU there was one guy on Reddit who said his granddad fell for the
• 58:28
  Nigerian prince scam twice because this he said after the first time how did
• 58:34
  they get you again and he said well I didn't think it would be a scam
• 58:38
  twice like that's not how that
• 58:43
  works it will always be a scam but no I I listen every now and again I'll listen
• 58:48
  to those um YouTube channels where they're like calling and talking to scam
• 58:53
  be and I find them hilarious but it's also quite sad that
• 58:56
  yeah CU they are doing because it's working and some of them are quite
• 59:00
  abusive to yeah they do not give a [ __ ] no well the problem I mean not to
• 59:07
  generalize but I don't think their living conditions are that great no so
• 59:11
  like why would they care no like it's they're not doing it just to be evil
• 59:17
  they yeah it's not good that it's happening but it's I mean these people
• 59:21
  are doing you know yeah these are often desperate people
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  yes yeah yes in in yeah in third world countries doesn't justify it but yeah no
• 59:32
  no no sort of understand they work for companies then this is their job
• 59:37
  unfortunately that's how this works and the company and with this the company
• 59:41
  still makes a lot of money they're not seeing all that money yeah it's
• 59:44
  terrifying yep but yeah the reason why they keep doing it is it just it keeps
• 59:49
  working that's why they have to have signs up at in stores saying gift cards
• 59:54
  no one's going to ask you to pay any gift card yeah yeah don't do
• 59:58
  that that's why celebrities have to post well they don't know they have to but
• 1:00:01
  they do post and say if I message you asking for money it's not me so stupid
• 1:00:08
  like why is celebrity going to message a complete stranger and ask for money yeah
• 1:00:14
  I sometimes see funny screen grabs I don't know if they're real where there's
• 1:00:16
  one where it's like hi this is Arnold fig and I need money can you please send
• 1:00:21
  me money and then the is like how do I know it's you and then the repli is hos
• 1:00:25
  a Vista babe [Laughter] yep that's him I don't know if that's
• 1:00:30
  real or not but that's very funny if they thought that would
• 1:00:33
  work as a YouTube channel I do watch as a woman who just responds to all those
• 1:00:39
  Facebook scammers PR to be people I get text messages and Jenna's always like oh
• 1:00:44
  let reply reply I'm like no I don't I don't want to I don't want to deal with it I do
• 1:00:50
  because I just want to waste their time I I don't care I just I don't want them
• 1:00:56
  annoying me I no interest in talking back to them I I annoy them so much they
• 1:01:02
  they don't respond to me yeah and just because they don't it's
• 1:01:06
  annoying cuz I get phone calls and I get excited yes I got a scammer and I answer
• 1:01:10
  and I go hello and then they just hang up on me why call me then I just delete
• 1:01:17
  and yeah I'm bit worried like cuz I'm blocking a I do block a lot of
• 1:01:22
  numbers is that going to be an issue in the future at sometime when someone
• 1:01:26
  tries to you get these numbers I I found out uh I I was getting lots and lots and
• 1:01:32
  lots and lots of scam phone calls um and I was like the [ __ ] happened and then I
• 1:01:37
  did get an alert that said something
• 1:01:39
  about my data being leaked um through uh some my health insurance provider there
• 1:01:46
  was some issue and I was like a [ __ ] okay that's how they these idiots are
• 1:01:49
  getting my phone number Y and um I found out that there's a do not
• 1:01:55
  call register in the US which I've always I think I've heard of that in
• 1:01:59
  movies but I didn't actually know that was a real thing and I was like well try
• 1:02:03
  it was an official government website yeah like like I checked I filled in the form and I
• 1:02:10
  haven't gotten a call since and I was like [ __ ] that was easy how does that
• 1:02:16
  why is scame is paying attention to that because because once I do that I think
• 1:02:20
  it becomes illegal for them to call me but they're scamming you that's illegal anyway
• 1:02:26
  yeah I don't know I don't know or not even uh when I say scam I guess scam is
• 1:02:31
  not the right word I guess technically what I'm getting are phone calls from um
• 1:02:38
  like loan companies pretending that I have an impr progress application that I
• 1:02:43
  don't because they're hoping that you'll pick up okay so they're not actual like
• 1:02:48
  the the scamers they're actual companies just trying to I mean that's a scam to
• 1:02:52
  me yeah but like but they're still legitimate at the end of the day it
• 1:02:56
  would be not illegal yeah like but I mean I consider that a scam but yeah I
• 1:03:01
  think it's a bit dodgy to go yeah you're already halfway through
• 1:03:04
  this just blah blah blah from so and so lending just calling about your recent
• 1:03:08
  application you've been approved for yada yada yada and I guess they're just
• 1:03:11
  hoping people will say oh great or is it the fact with your data being leaked
• 1:03:15
  that someone is applying for a loan in your name I hope
• 1:03:20
  that's I check that stuff I do check that stuff maybe double check that no no
• 1:03:26
  I I I I would get a notific I literally would get a notification if somebody
• 1:03:31
  tried to use my social security number to okay to get Finance on something cuz
• 1:03:37
  cuz when I've done it I get alerts they say somebody you're trying to buy a
• 1:03:41
  house I'm like yeah that's me buy buy my house yeah exactly
• 1:03:47
  yeah well you know what's not a scam what giving us
• 1:03:52
  money why is that not a scam because we give you something back like what so if
• 1:03:59
  you give us $1 a week you can get the show early a week yeah a week I'm uping
• 1:04:05
  it to a week or a month all right all right $11 a month we're changing the
• 1:04:10
  terms of the agreement for $5 you will get the Afterparty where we'll keep
• 1:04:15
  talking for who knows how long and if you want to give even more money I'll
• 1:04:21
  work out something else to give you wink wink wink wink
• 1:04:26
  I I have to say it cuz I can't actually wink can you not
• 1:04:31
  wink that yeah okay it's not very nice
• 1:04:36
  wink it's not a Charming wink yeah it's not duct evil Charming it yeah it looks
• 1:04:41
  like you've got something in your eyes yeah so that's why I just say wink wink
• 1:04:44
  wink wink gotcha don't forget if you see me at pack you get a hug yeah I wish I
• 1:04:50
  could see you at pack love hug I I will
• 1:04:54
  take one I'm GNA give a hug to Dan
• 1:04:59
  good and maybe give away a pass but I left it too late to tell anyone about that
• 1:05:04
  oops give it to me I won't be there but that would have been good I can give you
• 1:05:09
  a three-day pass if you want I have to get a flight just get a
• 1:05:14
  flight it's a long flight long flight just for three days a long flight a lot
• 1:05:19
  of money and have nowhere to stay you can stay in my room it's fine oh all
• 1:05:23
  right you're okay with snuggling aren't you
• 1:05:27
  uh I insist excellent speaking of let's
• 1:05:31
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• 1:05:36
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