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Emily Rolfe - Athletes of the 2024 CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

• 0:12
  What's going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to Coffee Talk with Emily Rolfe.
• 0:40
  Oh, is it actually?
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  Or is it just that I have coffee?
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  Well, you said let's do coffee.
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  Yeah.
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  Coffee talk.
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  I'm kind of past my coffee
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  because I'm on the East Coast,
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  but I'm actually drinking
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  like a salty element type.
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  Oh, nice.
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  I have a big workout waiting
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  for me this evening,
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  so I'm trying to prepare.
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  Okay.
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  Smart.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's one of those where it's intervals,
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  15 front squats, 10 pushups,
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  and then in the three-minute window,
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  max calorie assault bike.
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  Gotcha.
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  Until I accumulate 100 calories.
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  Right.
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  I love workouts like that.
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  Yeah.
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  But I always go to ham on
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  the first few assault bikes.
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  And then you're just
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  breaking even or just doing the buy-in.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And it makes it horrible to finish.
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  Is it Cal Sue, the 100 thrusters,
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  and you have to do five
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  burpees every minute on the
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  minute until you accumulate 100?
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  And I've seen people just
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  sit minutes out or just do
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  the five burpees and not be
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  able to do any thrusters
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  for three minutes in a row
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  just to come back down from the red line.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I'm going to be 55 next year,
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  and I've got to learn how to pace myself.
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  You can't?
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  Did you say that?
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  I need to learn.
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  I'm not good at pacing at all.
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  Yeah, it's tough.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, enough about me.
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  We're here to talk about you.
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  You were going back,
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  or you've qualified for
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  your sixth CrossFit Games.
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  Yeah, crazy.
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  In your wildest imagination,
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  could you have ever
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  imagined you'd be here?
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  Cool.
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  No,
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  I was saying that to Kali the other day.
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  I was like, see, you almost went there.
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  Lost my balance.
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  I was saying in my first games, 2019,
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  or just before that,
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  it was like just a dream to
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  make the games one day.
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  Like, wouldn't that be amazing?
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  And then, yeah, six years in a row later,
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  here we are.
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  It's crazy.
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  Yeah.
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  And what's completely
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  baffling to me is every
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  year you get better.
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  Yeah, so far.
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  The only exception is the
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  medical withdrawal.
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  But that's understandable.
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  Yeah.
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  If it was me, I would have competed.
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  We know that.
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  Yeah.
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  So as an athlete,
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  you started later in life
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  than most athletes, right?
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  Do you think that that
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  helped you because you
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  didn't have the miles on
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  the tread going into this?
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  Yeah, maybe I think, um,
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  definitely doing the other
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  sports that I did helped
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  like gymnastics was a huge help,
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  obviously.
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  Um, yeah, I,
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  cause I was probably 20
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  something when I started, right.
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  Not 17, 16, 15,
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  like some of the girls now.
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  So, I mean,
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  there's no way of knowing cause
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  I'll never say in the Dave interviews,
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  they started at nine.
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  Yeah, that's insane.
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  I think,
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  I think CrossFit's a sport that
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  accumulates so many other
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  sports so that if you do
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  other sports early,
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  you're still kind of training for that,
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  that you can catch on later.
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  So I think it's cool that
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  whereas like gymnastics,
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  you have to start when
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  you're five or younger.
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  Like you don't pick that up when you're 12,
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  you know,
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  if you're going to be compete at
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  a high level anyways.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so with that,
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  how has training changed
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  for you from 2018, 19 to today?
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  Um,
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  I think the intensity has definitely
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  changed.
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  Um, what I'm able to handle now,
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  intensity and volume is
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  actually higher than when I was younger.
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  Go figure.
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  Um,
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  And I think just like Kyle's
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  been coaching me now for that many years.
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  I think just knowing me
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  inside and out as an
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  athlete and knowing exactly
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  what I'm good at and what I
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  suck at and what I need to
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  work on and tailoring to
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  the T everything in my programming.
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  Whereas before I was doing
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  more general and I was
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  getting better because when
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  you start CrossFit,
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  really you just do it and
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  you do general things and you get better,
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  right?
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  And then as you get more and more specific,
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  you have to hone in on
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  those specific things.
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  You and Kyle kind of learned
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  this sport together, right?
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  And so he's become a better coach.
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  You've become a better athlete.
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  How cool has that been that
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  not only are you doing it
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  for six years in a row,
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  you're doing it with your dudes?
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  Yeah, it's so cool.
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  We say that all the time.
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  We're like, how cool is this?
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  We're literally traveling
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  the world and competing and
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  doing it together.
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  Like, I don't know if he wasn't my coach.
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  I don't know if I would
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  enjoy the process so much
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  and enjoy the competition
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  and the traveling and, you know,
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  the fact that we're
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  together doing it is it's so fun.
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  And you both have other jobs too.
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  Like this isn't your sole thing.
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  So you get to spend this
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  time together because other
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  times of the day you're apart.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So how has that gone?
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  Like the balance of work and training?
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  Are you getting better at
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  that or is it just old hat now?
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  I think I'm getting better.
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  The job that I have now is
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  better for CrossFit.
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  I'm only working four days a week.
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  And no nights.
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  I don't do nights at all anymore.
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  So that's huge.
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  Yeah, it's just, it's better.
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  I've learned how to make it work.
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  Wadzombie says, from the outside,
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  it looks like Kyle has the
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  same amount of passion for this as Emily.
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  Very cool to see that.
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  He does.
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  We have a rule on Sundays,
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  no CrossFit talk, like at dinner,
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  at the dinner table,
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  because we're trying to like separate.
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  And, you know,
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  now like coming into the games,
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  that rule is out the window.
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  But yeah, we're always just like,
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  he's always thinking of new ways.
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  He's always researching.
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  He's always, yeah, he's, he's in it.
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  He won't admit it, but he's in it.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Would he ever coach anybody
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  else or is it just because it's you?
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  I don't know.
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  That's something you'd have
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  to ask him to be honest.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause I'm sure that like, if he wanted to,
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  there'd be people that would take him up.
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  Yeah.
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  He did coach.
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  I don't know if you remember
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  Adam Davidson.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  He coached him that year.
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  like during the COVID year.
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  So he had both of us and
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  that worked out really well, actually.
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  I think a guy girl scenario
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  works really well.
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  I don't know if he coached
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  another girl if that would work as well.
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  That was competing against me,
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  but definitely the guy girl works.
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  Yeah, yeah,
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  that that seems to be what every
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  good coach has.
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  I just watched the Ricky
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  Alex video yesterday.
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  It works for them because
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  it's a high-ranked guy, high-ranked girl.
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  They're not competing against each other.
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  They're so far apart anyways.
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  The only time they're ever
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  together is before the games, really.
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  He's on weight in Australia, right?
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  Not too bad at
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It's funny because like I,
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  I go to Christie O'Connell's gym.
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  Right.
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  Like Pat has no desire to
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  coach anybody but her.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  I mean,
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  you put in so much time and effort
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  and energy.
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  Like you have to do it
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  because you love it as a coach.
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  Like really,
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  you're not getting much out of it.
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  I mean, maybe Shane is cashing in,
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  but you know, you're,
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  you're really doing it
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  because you love it.
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  Like,
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  Yeah.
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  So he's retired with her.
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  They both retired together.
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  They're off doing other
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  things and enjoying life now.
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  Yeah, good.
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  Yeah.
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  So you went to West Coast.
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  You took fifth.
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  Never really in doubt you
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  were going to make the games,
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  which is good for you.
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  I've been around where
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  you've been on that line
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  going into Sunday.
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  Yeah.
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  And this time you were not.
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  Yeah, it was nice.
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  It was a calm... You're right.
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  Never in the weekend was I like,
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  I was just confident.
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  It was fine.
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  Everything was fine all weekend.
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  No big highs, no big lows.
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  It was just fine.
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  What did you learn that
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  weekend that you and Kyle
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  have brought back?
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  Am I... Okay, there we go.
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  I think specifics in workouts.
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  Um,
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  I've written like after every
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  competition I write down, you know,
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  I go through the whole
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  workout and write down what
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  worked and what didn't.
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  So there's always those specific things.
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  Um, but on a whole, I don't say,
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  like I say,
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  I think it was just like
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  confidence and it's,
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  it was nice just being comfortable.
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  No surprises.
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  No,
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  no it was good it was a
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  smooth I mean there were of
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  course things that didn't
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  go as I practiced and the
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  couple workouts I did quite
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  a bit worse than what I did
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  in training which was
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  disappointing so we kind of
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  had to pick that apart and
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  figure out you know what
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  happened there but that's
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  competition is is that common
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  no usually I'm the opposite
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  usually I'll shave minutes
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  off or I'll you know so uh
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  yeah the fact that I did it
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  was the snatch ladder I was
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  significantly faster in
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  training and then the
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  second event with the front
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  squat double under um and
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  yeah we went back and we
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  figured out you know I
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  switched the length of my
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  rope right before I
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  competed and I you know I
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  did a few rookie things
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  that were just stupid and
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  You know, you learn from them.
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  You still make mistakes at
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  this six years in.
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  But so, yeah, you made those mistakes,
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  but it's cool that you
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  could make those mistakes
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  and still never be in doubt
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  that you're going to the games.
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  Yeah, it wasn't detrimental,
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  which is nice.
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  Yeah.
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  And it was like that.
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  That event is such a high
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  risk event that I, you know,
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  I hate to say this and I hate to do it,
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  but I played it safe just
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  because the risk is so high.
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  And I knew where I was at.
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  And yeah.
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  you know, I knew, okay,
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  I'm going to take an extra 10 seconds,
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  pick up the dumbbells and
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  just go and do it all unbroken.
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  Like I'm not going to have to push it and,
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  you know, risk failure and, you know,
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  so that was,
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  I guess that was kind of nice,
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  but you know,
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  you never like to compete safe,
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  but sometimes it's just the
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  smarter thing to do.
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  Yeah.
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  To play it safe and still
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  take seventh in that event
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  is pretty good.
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  Did I get seventh?
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  You did.
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  Yeah.
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  But it shows that what you're capable of,
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  like, if you pushed it,
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  you might have taken top three.
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  Yep.
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  And I think going in, it was like,
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  I didn't need to do that, though.
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  Because, again, the risk versus reward,
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  like, on that event,
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  you saw people blow up, like...
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  you know,
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  do I try to get third in event and maybe,
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  you know, do better overall or do I,
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  and then maybe risk blowing
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  up and get 20th.
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  Like, yeah, I was,
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  I didn't get to come watch
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  you guys in the West,
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  but I was in the East and
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  the leaderboard changed
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  dramatically on that last event.
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  Yeah.
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  Crazy.
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  And they love that.
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  They love doing an event.
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  Same thing happened the year before,
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  like with the sandbag carry.
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  Like remember the Kelly Baker thing?
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  Like she, yeah,
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  it's just like creates the drama.
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  It does.
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  And I know people have been asking Boz,
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  did he test it so that he
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  knew that that was pretty
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  much the breaking point?
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  And he said, no,
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  that just by chance that came there.
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  You mean in the lunges?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Interesting.
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  So, yeah.
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  So, yeah,
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  so the only question I have from
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  the semis is I know how you
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  are great at running.
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  Were you disappointed the
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  run was shortened?
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  Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  I knew I was going to do fine anyways.
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  So it didn't matter in the overall,
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  but I wanted to just,
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  I wanted people to get wrecked.
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  And I was like, yeah, make the run longer.
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  But I knew, like, I think they were right.
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  We all would have got like
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  capped somewhere on the run
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  and it would have been so hard to,
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  and then people would have
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  known they're going to get capped and,
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  you know, ran the race differently maybe.
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  So I think it was probably
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  smart because it was quite
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  a bit longer with the full berm.
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  of course I wanted to do
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  that part what I find
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  fascinating about because
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  you are you win running
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  events at the games then
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  you go into semifinals and
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  you have like this person
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  that comes out of nowhere
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  that's just a great runner
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  and he won right does that
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  play with your head at all
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  or do you just ignore that
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  and say you got to run your own race
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  yeah, you know, I knew, I knew her, like,
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  what she got, so I was like, okay,
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  that's the time to beat, like,
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  that's just competing,
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  you should know that, and yeah,
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  when I got second, I was like,
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  that's annoying, but I knew, like,
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  at the end of the weekend,
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  it wouldn't make a difference, so.
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  yeah it's that's what's
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  great about semifinals is
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  you have these specialists
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  that nobody really knows of
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  who are good at that one
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  thing and can really like
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  shake up a leaderboard here
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  and there yeah and you know
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  a couple other girls like
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  that helped me because
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  there was people I had to
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  beat and then the randoms
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  got like in between us so I
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  was like okay sweet thanks
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  just so you don't even know
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  that you know are just good
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  at that one thing you're right
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  On Sunday in the east,
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  someone from the first heat
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  took top five in every event.
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  Wow.
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  It was crazy.
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  Well, um, Olivia did,
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  didn't she win the first
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  two on Sunday in our thing?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And still didn't make it.
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  Yeah.
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  Which is insane.
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  Yeah.
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  It was crazy.
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  In the East, Tia won everything.
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  First place was out of the box.
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  So many things changed from 7 to 15.
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  I think Chloe was 15th going
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  into the last event and ended up 9th.
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  Chloe.
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  Chloe Govind David.
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  Oh, right.
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  Yeah.
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  You have a couple of events at the end and
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  I think it's done,
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  but it's never over until it's over,
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  right?
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  Yeah, that's great.
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  So we talked last night
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  about death sessions.
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  Why do you call them death sessions?
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  Does the intensity ramp up
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  right before the games or
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  have you been doing this for months?
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  So I've been doing what I was telling you,
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  like these Mondays and Tuesday mornings.
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  We call them,
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  Kyle calls them DOT training.
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  D-O-T, die or thrive.
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  So die, death, it's kind of the same.
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  And they're really tough.
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  Like they're,
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  sometimes I go to bed with a
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  little bit of anxiety.
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  No time to get up.
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  And Monday and Tuesday are like my work,
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  my evening work days.
• 17:30
  So my first session,
• 17:32
  it has to be right away or
• 17:33
  else I don't have enough time in the day.
• 17:35
  So I like get up and I go
• 17:37
  like right away downstairs in the garage.
• 17:39
  So it's tough.
• 17:40
  It's like first thing I roll out of bed.
• 17:43
  And they're mostly like high power,
• 17:46
  high output, high intensity, minimal rest,
• 17:50
  but kind of interval style things.
• 17:53
  Like he'll make me do like
• 17:56
  something on the rower, let's say.
• 18:00
  And then get off the rower
• 18:01
  and do thrusters or get off
• 18:02
  the rower and do something else.
• 18:04
  and then repeat repeat
• 18:06
  repeat and he'll make a
• 18:09
  pace that I have to hit
• 18:10
  that's very it's doable but
• 18:13
  it's extremely
• 18:13
  uncomfortable like I would
• 18:14
  never row the machine at
• 18:16
  that pace if I had to get
• 18:17
  off and do something but
• 18:19
  like that's kind of the
• 18:20
  idea and um yeah to kind of
• 18:23
  kill yourself on the
• 18:24
  machine and then you get
• 18:25
  off and do something and
• 18:26
  it's it's terrible they're
• 18:27
  terrible they're hard um
• 18:30
  But yeah, every Monday, Tuesday,
• 18:31
  we've been doing that all year,
• 18:32
  and it's helped immensely
• 18:35
  in so many things.
• 18:39
  Does it simulate something
• 18:40
  that you think you're going
• 18:41
  to see at the games?
• 18:43
  Yeah,
• 18:44
  we were talking about this the other day.
• 18:45
  We were like,
• 18:45
  it would be awesome if we did
• 18:47
  an interval-style workout like that,
• 18:49
  because that's the way I've been training,
• 18:50
  but...
• 18:52
  Even if we don't, just the way,
• 18:56
  like what I've gained from
• 18:58
  doing that kind of working
• 19:00
  out is going to help me in
• 19:02
  so many other workouts anyways.
• 19:04
  So really it's a win-win.
• 19:06
  It just sucks.
• 19:08
  Speaking of interval training,
• 19:10
  your question to Dave at
• 19:11
  the end of your interview I
• 19:12
  thought was brilliant.
• 19:13
  And you asked him if he
• 19:17
  could redo something, right?
• 19:21
  And he talked about the
• 19:22
  interval workout that he
• 19:23
  thinks he screwed up on.
• 19:25
  What I found really cool is
• 19:30
  great people always look at
• 19:31
  their negatives.
• 19:33
  People who do great things
• 19:34
  always look at their
• 19:35
  negatives because he didn't
• 19:36
  just list one.
• 19:37
  Then he listed off a bunch
• 19:38
  more that he messed up on.
• 19:40
  You can tell that he wants
• 19:42
  to think about that all the time.
• 19:45
  What was that you cut out a little bit?
• 19:49
  I asked him and he knew it right.
• 19:50
  He spouted them off.
• 19:51
  It's like he's his biggest critic.
• 19:54
  Right.
• 19:55
  And they're right there in
• 19:56
  the forefront and you know,
• 19:57
  he's thinking about them
• 19:58
  all the time and how he's
• 19:59
  not going to make that mistake again.
• 20:01
  Yeah.
• 20:02
  And it's hard when you have
• 20:03
  someone like Tia who just
• 20:04
  like kind of overachieves, right?
• 20:06
  You're like, okay,
• 20:07
  the field is going to take
• 20:09
  three intervals for this, except her.
• 20:12
  And it's like, well,
• 20:13
  do you program for one
• 20:13
  person or do you program
• 20:14
  for the other 39?
• 20:15
  I don't know.
• 20:17
  Hopefully we've all like
• 20:18
  caught up a little,
• 20:19
  but still there's going to
• 20:21
  be those events that, you know,
• 20:24
  it's, it's funny.
• 20:24
  Pat was on Savan this
• 20:26
  morning and he was saying
• 20:27
  that he loved it when Tia
• 20:30
  almost broke the test and he loved it.
• 20:32
  And BKG almost did the same
• 20:34
  on the men's men's side.
• 20:36
  And he was like, as an athlete,
• 20:38
  we want to break your tests.
• 20:39
  Yeah.
• 20:40
  Like that's, that's cool to us.
• 20:43
  And to him, it's a,
• 20:43
  it's a broken thing he needs to fix.
• 20:47
  Yeah.
• 20:48
  That's because it's like,
• 20:50
  that's the ultimate goal.
• 20:52
  If you go into a workout and you're like,
• 20:53
  okay, no one's going to finish,
• 20:55
  it's kind of like, okay,
• 20:57
  get as far as we can.
• 20:58
  We know no one.
• 20:59
  But if there's a chance that
• 21:02
  you can or you can break it, as you say,
• 21:05
  it's like, yeah.
• 21:08
  Yeah.
• 21:09
  And Dave has been saying in
• 21:10
  these interviews,
• 21:11
  the reason he's doing them
• 21:12
  is because he felt like
• 21:13
  there was an us versus them
• 21:16
  with the athletes in CrossFit HQ.
• 21:18
  Yeah.
• 21:19
  Have you felt that in the past?
• 21:26
  You know what?
• 21:26
  I kind of not really, I want to say like,
• 21:30
  I'm not really in the know.
• 21:32
  Like I kind of just show up,
• 21:34
  do what's programmed, like whatever.
• 21:35
  Like I don't know all the
• 21:37
  behind the scene drama and like,
• 21:39
  I'm kind of just like, eh.
• 21:42
  Ignorance is bliss, right?
• 21:45
  Yeah.
• 21:45
  Head in the sand.
• 21:46
  Yeah.
• 21:49
  Yeah.
• 21:50
  I really enjoy, I'm glad he did them.
• 21:51
  I think it did give him some
• 21:55
  touch of what athletes go through.
• 21:57
  I think it was cool.
• 21:59
  I think he learned a lot about us.
• 22:01
  Like some of the questions I was like,
• 22:02
  do you know anything about any athlete?
• 22:06
  But it's cool.
• 22:07
  He's a cool guy.
• 22:08
  Like he was fun to talk to.
• 22:11
  I've been saying for years,
• 22:12
  I started this whole
• 22:14
  CrossFit life as a volunteer.
• 22:16
  And he was so good to the volunteers.
• 22:19
  He would come around,
• 22:20
  shake everybody's hand,
• 22:20
  thank them for coming,
• 22:22
  doing all this stuff.
• 22:23
  And nobody ever got to see that in public.
• 22:26
  Right.
• 22:27
  And now with these interviews,
• 22:29
  I think they're starting to
• 22:30
  see that in public.
• 22:33
  Yeah.
• 22:33
  He's not the old, like, oh,
• 22:34
  we all hate you.
• 22:37
  workouts are so bad and you
• 22:38
  know I think it it's kind
• 22:40
  of a facade like you know
• 22:42
  everyone loves to hate the
• 22:44
  open workout because it was
• 22:45
  so bad and like but the guy
• 22:47
  himself is not well and I
• 22:51
  think at the end of the day
• 22:52
  he wants to highlight you
• 22:53
  guys to him that's like the
• 22:56
  ultimate success yeah
• 23:02
  He says over and over,
• 23:03
  I hate programmers that
• 23:04
  over-program and don't
• 23:06
  let... Simple's better
• 23:08
  because the athletes can
• 23:09
  then show what they can do.
• 23:15
  Yeah, I think he's big on that.
• 23:18
  Oh, sorry.
• 23:19
  No, no.
• 23:19
  I was just going to say, I think he's,
• 23:21
  he's big on more just, you're right.
• 23:23
  Like simple,
• 23:23
  like general fitness and the
• 23:27
  best will come through.
• 23:28
  It's like,
• 23:28
  you don't need all these bells
• 23:29
  and whistles and like weird
• 23:31
  things and like, you know, but we'll see.
• 23:35
  We'll see what's at the games.
• 23:37
  I get a sense the athletes
• 23:39
  are excited that that's,
• 23:40
  we're going back to that.
• 23:44
  yeah I am I know like I
• 23:47
  think high school is cool
• 23:48
  like I think it's it has a
• 23:49
  time and a place but it
• 23:52
  shouldn't I think you know
• 23:55
  we're all doing it because
• 23:56
  it's fitness not because so
• 23:59
  and so can do a press to
• 24:01
  handstand or whatever right
• 24:04
  Right.
• 24:05
  So speaking of the games,
• 24:07
  a couple of things have been announced.
• 24:09
  Chad, Dave's talked about that enough.
• 24:12
  Then we have the run swim,
• 24:14
  which is right up your alley.
• 24:16
  How are you on this on the lake swim?
• 24:21
  I'm pretty good.
• 24:23
  I, I'm a good swimmer.
• 24:24
  I'm not, I'm not an ex collegiate swimmer,
• 24:30
  but I'm a good swimmer.
• 24:31
  So
• 24:33
  Yeah, I'm excited.
• 24:34
  We don't have a ton of lakes around here,
• 24:36
  so I'm only getting out
• 24:39
  once or twice before the games,
• 24:40
  like actual open water.
• 24:41
  But of course,
• 24:42
  I've been swimming all year.
• 24:43
  And yeah, I'm excited.
• 24:48
  I love swimming in lakes,
• 24:49
  so it'll be good.
• 24:51
  With it being a man-made lake,
• 24:52
  I think the only big
• 24:53
  difference is sight lines, right?
• 24:58
  I did a lesson with an open
• 24:59
  water triathlon coach,
• 25:02
  I think two years ago now.
• 25:05
  And yeah, that helped.
• 25:08
  Because it is a big thing
• 25:09
  and you have to practice it.
• 25:10
  You can't just learn it and be like, okay,
• 25:11
  I have it now.
• 25:12
  It's something you have to practice.
• 25:14
  Yeah, it's different.
• 25:17
  And I think maybe that's the
• 25:18
  advantage of not being an
• 25:20
  ex-professional swimmer is because...
• 25:24
  they're so used to looking
• 25:25
  at that black line and
• 25:27
  having all the sights in the pool.
• 25:29
  Well, you were a swimmer, right?
• 25:31
  But then when you're in a
• 25:32
  lake and you see the dark
• 25:33
  and murky waters and you have to spot,
• 25:36
  it's completely different.
• 25:38
  Yeah.
• 25:39
  It's all about sight lines to me.
• 25:40
  If you can swim straight,
• 25:41
  you're going to do well.
• 25:43
  Yeah.
• 25:45
  Yeah.
• 25:46
  I think it's going to be a
• 25:47
  really cool event.
• 25:49
  I can't wait to see you run against Tia.
• 25:50
  Yeah.
• 25:53
  I'm excited that the men and
• 25:55
  the women are together.
• 25:57
  I like that.
• 25:58
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 26:01
  I think it's, it's just,
• 26:04
  I think there are a lot of
• 26:05
  people with good running
• 26:06
  ability and the great
• 26:08
  runners are going to show
• 26:09
  what they can do.
• 26:11
  And then can you just hang
• 26:12
  on for the swim?
• 26:14
  Yeah.
• 26:15
  And I think, you know,
• 26:16
  if you have one and not the other,
• 26:18
  you'll still do okay.
• 26:20
  But yeah,
• 26:21
  it's hard to do really well,
• 26:23
  I think because, you know,
• 26:25
  so you blast the run,
• 26:26
  but then you drown like you,
• 26:29
  you know what I mean?
• 26:29
  You're like slow in the water or, you know,
• 26:31
  if you're not confident swimming,
• 26:33
  maybe you can't blast the
• 26:34
  run because your heart rate
• 26:35
  can't be up here to go in the water.
• 26:38
  Right.
• 26:38
  So I think, you know,
• 26:40
  and if you're a great swimmer,
• 26:41
  but you're so far behind from the run,
• 26:44
  like that's hard too.
• 26:45
  So, you know, I think I'm okay at both.
• 26:50
  Yeah.
• 26:51
  And then we have Farrington field,
• 26:52
  which is going to be a
• 26:54
  field sprint and a 1600
• 26:56
  meter with a happy star
• 26:59
  somewhere in one of those.
• 27:01
  Yeah.
• 27:04
  I don't know.
• 27:04
  I find it hard to believe a
• 27:06
  field sprint is just down
• 27:08
  the field and that's it,
• 27:10
  but I don't know.
• 27:10
  Maybe.
• 27:12
  So I've said on,
• 27:13
  on our like update show
• 27:15
  that I hope it's a strong
• 27:16
  man's fear type event.
• 27:19
  Right.
• 27:20
  Like just pick up an object,
• 27:23
  run down the field, you know,
• 27:25
  different kind.
• 27:26
  Like if you remember 2017,
• 27:29
  they did that with a yoke,
• 27:30
  a sled and the Slater logs
• 27:34
  from strong man.
• 27:36
  Right.
• 27:37
  Yeah.
• 27:39
  Is that, is that, you're trying to sure.
• 27:50
  I think, yeah, it's got, yeah,
• 27:52
  that would be, that'd be super cool.
• 27:54
  I'd like to do something like that.
• 27:55
  And then depending how long that rest is,
• 27:59
  you know,
• 27:59
  maybe you have to run a mile on
• 28:00
  like lactic legs that,
• 28:04
  so everyone's going to
• 28:05
  practice a mile and be like, Oh yeah,
• 28:07
  that's my mile time.
• 28:08
  But then who knows what, I don't know.
• 28:12
  And we don't,
• 28:12
  maybe the happy stars in the mile.
• 28:15
  Yeah,
• 28:15
  maybe you got to run with the star on
• 28:17
  Bear Hug Mile.
• 28:19
  Yeah, I've heard people say run 400,
• 28:22
  then run 400 with the happy star,
• 28:24
  then variations throughout the mile.
• 28:29
  Could be.
• 28:32
  Yeah.
• 28:34
  Because it's open to the
• 28:35
  public and it's on ESPN,
• 28:37
  I want it to be something cool.
• 28:41
  Not just in track meet.
• 28:43
  You know, I hear both ends.
• 28:46
  People are also saying like, oh,
• 28:48
  just do like a straight up
• 28:49
  mile so we can actually
• 28:50
  compare CrossFit athletes
• 28:52
  to other people that run a mile.
• 28:53
  Well, in track,
• 28:54
  I don't think anyone runs a mile, right?
• 28:56
  It's 1500.
• 28:57
  But regardless, I mean...
• 29:02
  were pathetically slow in
• 29:04
  comparison like let's be
• 29:05
  honest like we're gonna
• 29:08
  watch people in paris run
• 29:09
  the 1500 faster than we run
• 29:11
  the 800 pretty much so I
• 29:14
  don't know if we'll see
• 29:17
  yeah so do you like knowing
• 29:21
  the events beforehand or do
• 29:23
  you like being surprised
• 29:24
  when you get there I don't
• 29:26
  want to know anything I
• 29:27
  would rather just go and
• 29:30
  do what I mean in these next
• 29:32
  two weeks you're probably
• 29:35
  not going to get if you're
• 29:36
  not a good runner you're
• 29:37
  not getting better in two
• 29:38
  weeks like you know you're
• 29:42
  if you can't if you're not
• 29:43
  a good lifter you know
• 29:44
  you're not putting on 30
• 29:46
  pounds in the next two
• 29:46
  weeks like it's just
• 29:49
  Why no stress about it?
• 29:52
  And like people are going to
• 29:54
  over practice and like,
• 29:56
  how many step ups are you
• 29:57
  going to do in the next two
• 29:58
  weeks for chat?
• 29:58
  Like develop, I don't know,
• 30:01
  knee tendonitis or
• 30:01
  something like it's just, we don't,
• 30:04
  I get it why they do it to
• 30:05
  create more hype and like it's coming up,
• 30:08
  but like as an athlete, nah,
• 30:10
  I don't want to know.
• 30:12
  Well,
• 30:12
  and they leave out enough details
• 30:13
  that you don't really know
• 30:15
  what any of these events are.
• 30:16
  That's the thing.
• 30:17
  You'll practice it one way
• 30:18
  and it'll be completely different.
• 30:20
  Like I said,
• 30:20
  that mile could be on messed
• 30:22
  up legs or it could be,
• 30:25
  you're right with a sandbag without like,
• 30:28
  whatever you train for,
• 30:29
  it's not how you're going
• 30:30
  to feel on day two of
• 30:32
  competition anyways.
• 30:34
  And we know Chad has a twist.
• 30:36
  Yeah.
• 30:37
  You know,
• 30:38
  the only thing I think we know is
• 30:39
  the run swim.
• 30:40
  True.
• 30:41
  Yeah.
• 30:42
  But then again,
• 30:42
  that's like a monostructural thing.
• 30:44
  Like you're not getting that much better.
• 30:47
  If you're not a good swimmer,
• 30:49
  you're not good.
• 30:50
  Like you're not going to be
• 30:51
  good in two weeks.
• 30:53
  It takes years.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:56
  Wadzomi says, I'd rather not know.
• 30:58
  Can't imagine the mental
• 30:59
  stress trying to prep if you know.
• 31:03
  Yeah.
• 31:03
  Yeah.
• 31:04
  And people,
• 31:05
  people will say like the people
• 31:07
  who are in week three of second finals,
• 31:09
  they'll be like, it's the worst.
• 31:11
  Like watching is worse too.
• 31:13
  We don't have to watch
• 31:13
  people do it at the games,
• 31:14
  but like just waiting and
• 31:16
  knowing and like how many
• 31:18
  variations and intervals
• 31:19
  and like different things
• 31:20
  that can you do in your training?
• 31:22
  Like I would argue that's
• 31:23
  not the best two weeks
• 31:25
  leading up to a comp, right?
• 31:28
  Right.
• 31:29
  Right.
• 31:29
  And you want to go in with
• 31:30
  your body feeling good, not trash.
• 31:34
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  So yeah, I get that totally.
• 31:39
  So what are your
• 31:40
  expectations this year or
• 31:44
  are you waiting to see what
• 31:45
  else is out there?
• 31:49
  Um, I'm not waiting.
• 31:52
  I have expectations, but I'll keep those,
• 31:55
  uh, between me and Kyle right now.
• 31:56
  Okay.
• 31:59
  But yeah, I want to come in healthy and,
• 32:02
  um,
• 32:03
  Yeah,
• 32:04
  I want to execute the way that I can.
• 32:09
  If I go into every event and
• 32:12
  come out and be like,
• 32:13
  that was the best I could do,
• 32:15
  whether it's a first or a 20th,
• 32:19
  that I got to be happy with.
• 32:22
  What's crazy is we did our top 40...
• 32:25
  rankings Sunday night, Carolyn Prevost,
• 32:28
  Jamie and myself, I think from two to 14,
• 32:35
  you could put in a hopper
• 32:37
  and it could come out any which way.
• 32:40
  Yeah.
• 32:41
  The field has gotten so much
• 32:43
  better as a whole.
• 32:46
  And then we don't know how
• 32:47
  people have improved over the year.
• 32:50
  Yeah.
• 32:52
  So it's crazy.
• 32:55
  Yeah, it could be.
• 32:56
  And especially with the games,
• 32:59
  so much variety and
• 33:01
  different events that you
• 33:02
  don't see throughout the year.
• 33:05
  So that's, that's the fun part.
• 33:09
  So what zombie has one final
• 33:10
  question for you and it's
• 33:11
  not games related.
• 33:13
  What is she doing outside work training,
• 33:15
  reading, binging, any shows?
• 33:18
  So what do you do?
• 33:20
  Compress.
• 33:22
  Um,
• 33:25
  not much I was telling
• 33:25
  someone else the other day
• 33:27
  like I feel like there's no
• 33:29
  energy to do anything in
• 33:30
  this last like month before
• 33:31
  the games you're just like
• 33:33
  all the energies into
• 33:34
  training and then eating
• 33:36
  and sleeping like it's so
• 33:38
  bad I was gonna sit down
• 33:40
  and play piano the other
• 33:41
  day because I play piano
• 33:42
  and I just couldn't didn't
• 33:44
  even have the energy like
• 33:45
  to sit there and play piano
• 33:47
  I was like I need to just
• 33:48
  veg and watch TV um
• 33:52
  So yeah, no shows.
• 33:53
  I watched the Simone Biles documentary,
• 33:55
  of course.
• 33:56
  But other than that,
• 34:00
  it's a very life in these
• 34:03
  couple months here.
• 34:04
  I'm looking forward to
• 34:06
  letting loose in August and
• 34:09
  doing some stuff.
• 34:12
  I've never heard the piano
• 34:13
  thing in all the times
• 34:14
  we've known each other.
• 34:15
  Yeah,
• 34:16
  I did Royal Conservatory all the way up.
• 34:21
  until uh end of grade 12 so
• 34:24
  wow elise says she would
• 34:28
  love to hear you play oh
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  maybe one day after the
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  games I'll practice a song
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  put it on my put it on the
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  gram yeah yeah that's
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  that's just crazy you
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  caught me off guard with that one
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  Yeah, we got our piano right in there.
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  And you think, like,
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  I guess it takes brain energy,
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  but I didn't think, you know,
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  you're just sitting there.
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  But I couldn't even,
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  didn't even have the energy for that.
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  I make a goal, like, games training,
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  I make a goal to do one
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  thing a day that's, like, productive.
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  Like, whether it's, I told Kyle, like,
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  it's pathetic.
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  The other day it was check the mail.
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  Or like, you know,
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  do one load of laundry or, you know,
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  scrub the toilets, like do one thing.
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  And like, as long as I do that one thing,
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  then everything's going smooth.
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  I need to use that on my wife.
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  I just need to get one thing
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  accomplished today and it's a success.
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  Yeah.
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  And whether it's like so
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  small that like pick up at
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  or rearrange just that thing by the door,
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  just like something very small.
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  Then, yeah, you feel good about yourself.
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  You're like, okay.
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  Her list for me is much
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  longer than one thing a day.
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  Yeah, I bet.
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  Well, as always, Emily,
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  it's a joy having you on here.
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  I am going to the games.
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  I wasn't sure that was going to happen,
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  but we're going.
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  Great.
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  We'll be hanging out there rooting you on.
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  I can't wait to see you out
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  there on the floor.
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  Cool.
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  We'll see you in a few shows.
• 36:08
  Yeah, well,
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  thanks to everybody for joining.
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  We'll see you next time on
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  the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
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  Bye, guys.