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Chad Jensen previews the Denver Broncos playoff run, How important is Garrett Bolles (?), Super Bowl or bust (?), · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: It's not Sean O'Connell's show. You were home of the
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  Speaker 1: from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN seven hundred ninety
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  Speaker 2: The lot going on into college football world, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: here on the Home of the Utes, we stay focused
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  Speaker 2: on that. But goodness gracious, the NFL coaching carousel is
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  Speaker 2: spinning at a rapid pace. You've got playoff games this
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  Speaker 2: weekend that you can hear right here on ESPN seven
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  Speaker 2: home market for a lot of people here, most of
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  Speaker 2: you are Broncos fans. I think the Broncos have the
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  Speaker 2: largest chunk of NFL fans in the state of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk a little Bronco football. Chad Jensen, founder
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  Speaker 2: of Mile High Huddle and former Utah resident, joined us
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  Speaker 2: right here on the Sean o'connashol. Chad, welcome, How are
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  Speaker 2: you doing great?
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  Speaker 3: How are you Sean? Thanks for having me, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you giving us some time this This
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  Speaker 2: Broncos team has been fascinating this year and really last
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  Speaker 2: year as well, but especially this year. Are you surprised
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  Speaker 2: at at how quickly the bo Knicks thing has worked
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  Speaker 2: out and how well this team has come together in
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I think anybody who says otherwise would be lying
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  Speaker 3: to you. I mean, I was excited about bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: I was one of those guys that didn't understand some
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  Speaker 3: of the shade on Knicks coming out of Oregon in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. But I figured about where they are
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  Speaker 3: today would be something like year three at best, probably
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  Speaker 3: year four of the Sean Payton bow Knicks thing. So
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  Speaker 3: they've outkicked the coverage. You know, Sean Payton figured out
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  Speaker 3: a way to microwave this thing, and bo Nix is
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  Speaker 3: a big reason for that. But it's actually pretty crazy too, Sean,
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  Speaker 3: when you realize that Sean Payton has achieved this while
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  Speaker 3: managing the biggest dead cap hit in the history of
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  Speaker 3: the NFL over the last two years, with that Russell
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  Speaker 3: Wilson contract that with eighty five million bucks, the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: could not spend on players that their opponents could. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're ahead of schedule most definitely.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty insane. This is a very Utah specific question.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're doing a lot of these hits around
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  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are.
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  Speaker 2: Not gonna ask you about Coarne Reid, but we are
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  Speaker 2: because he's a former ute and he's activated off the
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  Speaker 2: IR Do they do you expect that he'll be used
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  Speaker 2: heavily as we get into these playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Not so much on defense, but he's you know, he's
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  Speaker 3: a four core special teams guy, and all of his
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  Speaker 3: stats so far, I mean, he's got five tackles. Remember
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  Speaker 3: he's missed, you know, the last many many games, but
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  Speaker 3: he's got five tackles this season, all of them on
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  Speaker 3: special teams. Big contributor there, and that's important because the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos coverage you and it's on specials has not been
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  Speaker 3: very consistent. And a big part of that was because
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  Speaker 3: Reid got hurt. So that's a big part of it.
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  Speaker 3: But they also have an injury up at depth chart
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  Speaker 3: with dray Greenlaw dealing with the hamstring that's kept him
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  Speaker 3: out of the last two games, and he's a little
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  Speaker 3: bit injury prone. He ends up kind of staying on
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines quite more than the team would would like.
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  Speaker 3: And so I could see Reid and a pinch getting
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  Speaker 3: called in, but he's mostly third phase. He will be
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  Speaker 3: dressing but third pace.
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  Speaker 2: And look one of the favorites of Utah even though
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  Speaker 2: he was only with the youths for a year. As
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  Speaker 2: a guy who's really made himself into a staple for
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos, I'm talking about Garrett Bowles, and you know
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  Speaker 2: he's the Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee. He's
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  Speaker 2: the guy that is I think largely representative of what
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  Speaker 2: this new Broncos culture is. You'd be better equipped to
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  Speaker 2: tell me if that's true or not. But what does
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  Speaker 2: he mean to this team?
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  Speaker 1: A lot?
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  Speaker 3: Man, He's one of those guys that wandered the desert
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  Speaker 3: of you know, the of NFL basement with the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: through the lean years post Super Bowl fifty and so
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  Speaker 3: he hung in there tough. You know, he really turned
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  Speaker 3: a corner as a as a player way back in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, got himself a second team All Pro, kept
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  Speaker 3: plugging away. I think now that he's got his first
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  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl not I think he could. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: basically him and Andrew Thomas who comes away with the
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  Speaker 3: first inaugural Protector of the Year award. That the NFL
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  Speaker 3: is rolling out this year. He's right there. He is
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  Speaker 3: not allowed to sack this season. The only player in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL with nine hundred and seventy five pass blocking snaps,
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  Speaker 3: Garrett Bowls is the only guy who hasn't who has
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  Speaker 3: not you know, allowed a sack. So emotionally, he means
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  Speaker 3: a lot to this team. And you know, Sean Payton
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  Speaker 3: when he came in, he cleaned house on a lot
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  Speaker 3: of those veterans that were leaders during the lean years
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  Speaker 3: but just had not been able to contribute to a
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  Speaker 3: winning culture for whatever reason. I think part of it
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  Speaker 3: too was the premium position that he plays. Bowls was
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys that Sean Payton saw fact bring
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  Speaker 3: into the long term and he's now on his third contract,
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  Speaker 3: so he means a lot to this team. He's a
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  Speaker 3: big time leader and culture guy.
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  Speaker 2: This team leads the league in sacks, as you're well aware,
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  Speaker 2: Nick Benito's the top five, and there's you know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot down the line that have contributed to that. In
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs, how big a factor do you think that
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  Speaker 2: pass rush is going to play?
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  Speaker 3: Huge? Absolutely huge, And it's the number one reason why
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos are the number one for us to be
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  Speaker 3: reckoned with in the AFC, and not just because that
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  Speaker 3: got the home field advantage throughout as the one seed,
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  Speaker 3: but we all know the cliche defense wins championships. And
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  Speaker 3: of all the teams that are in the AFC tournament, man,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos they have that calling card and Vance Joseph
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's interviewing with five of the seven head
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  Speaker 3: coach vacancy teams right now or this week anyway. So look, man,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos have a special defense. Nick Bonito, He's accomplished
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  Speaker 3: actually several things historically that not even bon Miller pomplished,
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  Speaker 3: which is kind of crazy in a short amount of time. Him,
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  Speaker 3: Jonathan Cooper, they're the edge guys. But don't forget what
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  Speaker 3: Zach Allen brings to the table inside, as well as
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  Speaker 3: John Franklin Meyers. So man, sixty eight sacks they came
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  Speaker 3: for short of tie in the record that's held by
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  Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears, and a big part of that is
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  Speaker 3: they kind of slowed down the last three weeks or so,
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  Speaker 3: but they're fixing to rampant back up.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know how much you're able to follow
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  Speaker 2: college football, but I spent the whole year before the
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  Speaker 2: college football playoff format change saying, man, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be so valuable to teams to get that first round
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  Speaker 2: playoff by. And we know how well that prediction has
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  Speaker 2: worked out for me because it ends up being a
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  Speaker 2: curse on college teams. How do you characterize this first
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  Speaker 2: round by for the Broncos? Is it going to be
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  Speaker 2: good for them to get rested or do you not
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  Speaker 2: want to see them break any of this momentum from
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  Speaker 2: the season.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think in this case it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good thing. Although there are arguments for both sides.
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  Speaker 3: Broncos have a pretty storied history of getting the first
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  Speaker 3: round by and then you know, being won and done,
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  Speaker 3: especially twice actually during the Peyton Manning years. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's arguments for both sides. I think in Denver's case,
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  Speaker 3: because of the coach, because of Sean Payton and his experience.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is far from his first rodeo. I
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  Speaker 3: think the team will be prepared, be able to kind
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  Speaker 3: of move around some of the obstacles, the rust versus
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  Speaker 3: rest you know argument, They'll be ready. Sean Payton's big
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  Speaker 3: thing is, hey, it just removes one game that we're
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  Speaker 3: at risk of being eliminated. So that's the good news.
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  Speaker 3: But I think at the end of the day, with
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  Speaker 3: how banged up the Broncos are, which relatively speaking, is
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  Speaker 3: not as bad as a lot of their opponents in
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  Speaker 3: the in the AFC playoffs, but they have a few
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  Speaker 3: key injuries like the Dray Greenlaw when I mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 3: that that extra week could be of help, plus both
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  Speaker 3: Old injured his foot, injured his ankle, I should say,
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  Speaker 3: in that finale versus the Chargers, so that extra week
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  Speaker 3: will make a difference, and I think Sean Payton will
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  Speaker 3: have him ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: When you talk about the rest of this AFC playoff field,
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  Speaker 2: who's the biggest threat to the Broncos in your mind?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I actually think it's the Chargers. There's an argument
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  Speaker 3: to be made for the Buffalo Bills because you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos faced him in the wild card last year
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  Speaker 3: and absolutely got curb stump. But matchups wise, this Bills
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  Speaker 3: team is not the same team as it was last year.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, Josh Allen, he's still you know, forced to
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  Speaker 3: be reckoned with. But Jim Harbaugh has the Broncos number
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  Speaker 3: like make you know, dismiss that season finale. Herbert wasn't
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  Speaker 3: playing Khalil Mack, wasn't playing Irwin James, many others. All
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  Speaker 3: their star players, with the exception of Keenan Allen, sat
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  Speaker 3: in that game. Jim Harbaugh outside of that finale is
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  Speaker 3: undefeated against Sean Payton and bow Knicks. They're three to
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  Speaker 3: zero going into that finale, and they just match up well.
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  Speaker 3: Jesse Mintors, LA's defensive coordinator just seems to kind of
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  Speaker 3: have Sean Payton's numbers. So that's the team that actually
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  Speaker 3: makes me the most trepidacious. But hey, they got to
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  Speaker 3: get past New England first, and I actually think that
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  Speaker 3: they pull it off. I take LA ends up as
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  Speaker 3: the seventh seed going back to Denver in two weeks
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  Speaker 3: to play the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: Who's gonna Who's Denver gonna play next week?
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  Speaker 3: That's what it's got to be. The I think it's
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers, you know. I mean, there's a chance, who knows, right?
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  Speaker 3: How good is the are the Patriots? They only beat two,
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  Speaker 3: They only played two teams with the winning record in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, won one of them. How tested are they?
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  Speaker 3: You know? In terms of the refiners fire they played
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  Speaker 3: a pretty dang easy schedule, so I'm not fully believing
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  Speaker 3: in this. Uh Drake may led Patriots squad and the Chargers. Man,
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  Speaker 3: They've got the defense, they got the quarterback, and then
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  Speaker 3: they have the veteran coach, you know, Jim Harbaugh's seen
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  Speaker 3: a lot of football over the years. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it's the Chargers who advanced. Because the Broncos is the
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  Speaker 3: one seed. One of the benefits is they get to
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  Speaker 3: play whoever the lowest seed that survives the first round.
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  Speaker 3: That's who goes. And I think it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers as the seven.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, help me out with the rest of these
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  Speaker 2: AFC games, Steelers, Texans, who comes out of that one?
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  Speaker 3: Houston? That defense is maybe even scarier than Denvers.
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  Speaker 2: Jags, Bills.
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  Speaker 3: This is a toughie. This is a toughie because the
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  Speaker 3: Jags they got something special cooking there. But Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: does he still have the magic? We'll find out. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna take the Jags though, because I saw him up
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  Speaker 3: close in Week sixteen against the Broncos and they are
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  Speaker 3: forced to be reckoned.
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  Speaker 2: With and then you think it'll be the Chargers over
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  Speaker 2: the two seed Patriots, which would set up that Broncos
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  Speaker 2: matchup one versus seven heating on January seventeenth.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting from my gut for now, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, from an expectation standpoint, I've been through the Niners
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  Speaker 2: lean years and then hey, the Niners are back, and
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  Speaker 2: you remember the first couple of years where your team's
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  Speaker 2: back in a playoff conversation and it's like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 2: it's good to be back at the playoffs. But we're
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  Speaker 2: just going to be happy with that for now, and
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  Speaker 2: then maybe next year will be our year. Maybe the
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  Speaker 2: year after that will be our year. Where are Broncos
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  Speaker 2: fans feeling right now? What does this Broncos team think
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  Speaker 2: about their own possibilities to be in the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the team Sean Payton made waves in the summertime
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  Speaker 3: deciding to go public with saying that this is one
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  Speaker 3: of what I think he said four or five teams
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  Speaker 3: he's coached all time where before the season he felt
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  Speaker 3: like this could be a Super Bowl champion team, and
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  Speaker 3: he went public with the and the Broncos have had
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  Speaker 3: to live up to that, and so far they have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, eleven straight wins during the regular season, the
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  Speaker 3: one seed, so the team's expectations are super Bowl or busts,
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  Speaker 3: especially now that they won the one seed home field
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  Speaker 3: throughout fans, I think what you talked about with just
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  Speaker 3: kind of being happy that we made it to the party.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay if we at the bouncer, eighty six of
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  Speaker 3: us early we made it. That was last year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Broncos fans were thrilled that they won ten games with
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  Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback and made the playoffs and just happy
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  Speaker 3: to snap the street the playoff drought. But this season, man,
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  Speaker 3: it has so many strange parallels with the twenty fifteen
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  Speaker 3: World champion Broncos, and combined with this team, this fan
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  Speaker 3: base is relatively kind of snooty high standards, And I
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  Speaker 3: say that in the best sense. You know, Broncos fans
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  Speaker 3: have been very spoiled over the years. Let's face it, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like you go from Lway to even that one Tim
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  Speaker 3: Tebow year, wild Peyton Manning. Now here we are with
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  Speaker 3: bow Nick, So I think fans have kind of fallen
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  Speaker 3: in line with the team message, which is super Bowler bust.
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  Speaker 3: So here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Does Nick still have any doubters in that market? Because
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  Speaker 2: I was with you, I covered him while he was
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  Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve and I was like, Boenicks is
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  Speaker 2: going to be an awesome NFL quarterback and was somewhat
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  Speaker 2: surprised by the disbelievers. Do they still exist in Denver?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you'll hear with my publication mile High Huddle,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, we're also Denver Broncos. On SI, we
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  Speaker 3: have a pretty deep staff and not everybody is just
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  Speaker 3: you know, sunshine and rainbows. When it comes to the Broncos,
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  Speaker 3: we try to tell it like it is. But overall
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  Speaker 3: in the market, I think bo Nicks no more doubters
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  Speaker 3: in Denver, and I don't you know, for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: I think he silenced all those doubts with what he
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  Speaker 3: did as a rookie. I mean, he had the second
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  Speaker 3: most prolific rookie season in the history of the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: behind only Justin Herbert's twenty twenty campaign. So that kind
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  Speaker 3: of brought everybody in line. The doubters kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, cool, but he's still got his national boo birds.
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  Speaker 3: They're out there, man, just they dug in so hard
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  Speaker 3: on those pre draft positions. The Bonnicks is not a
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  Speaker 3: first round guy and he should be in the third
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  Speaker 3: round that you know, they're really clinging to what are
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  Speaker 3: as time March is on being exposed as freezing cold takes.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's you look at what Boon Nicks has done.
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  Speaker 3: He's the only quarterback in the history of the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: in the history of the NFL to win twenty plus
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  Speaker 3: games in his first two years, pass for seventy five
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  Speaker 3: hundred plus yards and fifty plus touchdowns. Nobody's ever done
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  Speaker 3: that before. So he is a force onto his own
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  Speaker 3: and I think people need to kind of just admit
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  Speaker 3: the situation. There's more dignity in it and go Bo Nicks.
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  Speaker 2: If I take him out of the equation, who is
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  Speaker 2: the most important Bronco for this playoff run?
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  Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a great question, man, that's a toughie. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna say Nick Benito. It's a toss up, but I won't.
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  Speaker 3: I would say Nick Benito won a Pats or ten one.
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  Speaker 3: B You know, the pass rush and the past defense
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  Speaker 3: go hand in hand the coverage, but the Broncos need
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  Speaker 3: that league leading pass rush to be the tip of
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  Speaker 3: the spear. Because look as flowery as I just was
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  Speaker 3: about Bo Nicks these last three weeks from Week sixteen,
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  Speaker 3: on the offense has kind of been in a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a rut and the defense has had to
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  Speaker 3: kind of carry the way. I don't know, It's hard
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  Speaker 3: to put your finger on exactly what's going on. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people think that Sean Payton, once they clinched
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs and had pretty much control of the AFC
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  Speaker 3: West and a really good run at the one seed,
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  Speaker 3: that he kind of took his foot off the gas
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  Speaker 3: and he's not trying to show too much to the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm like, you guys, remember were like many months
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  Speaker 3: into the regular season, right, Like, he's already shown everything
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  Speaker 3: pretty much there is to show, but it's been in
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  Speaker 3: the offense a little bit of a funk. So they
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  Speaker 3: need that defense out there, rip roaring, putting pressure on.
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton's big emphasis coming into the playoffs as takeaways
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  Speaker 3: and the Broncos that's the one thing defensively that was
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  Speaker 3: missing from the resume is they came one takeaway away
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  Speaker 3: from being having the lowest number of takeaways by any
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  Speaker 3: Broncos defense in the history of the Denver Broncos one
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  Speaker 3: takeaway away. But they they're trying to turn that around,
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  Speaker 3: and I think the first step to that is pressure
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  Speaker 3: on that quarterback staying consistent, because that's where the mistakes
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  Speaker 3: are made and that's where the ball can get Lucy goosey.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say, Nick Benito, I.
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  Speaker 2: Like what he's done. Even I'm not a Broncos guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Niners guy. But it's cool to see the
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  Speaker 2: professional football fans here in Salt Lake City having something
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  Speaker 2: to cheer for because the Broncos are kind of a
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  Speaker 2: local team. The Seahawks, to my chagrin, a kind of
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  Speaker 2: a local team, the Niners, my Niners. All these teams
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So NFL interested back at an all
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  Speaker 2: time high.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's good to see. I'm stoked for Utah. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: most people I knew growing up were Broncos fans. I
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  Speaker 3: grew up in Saint George, and you know, so we
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  Speaker 3: still got the same TV market as Salt Lake City
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. So Broncos on every day, right, like every Sunday,
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  Speaker 3: but a lot of Niners fans, You're right, And it
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't until about the Russell Wilson there that I started
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: seeing people be fans of the Seahawks. In the Utah
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: market book, you know whatever, charge it to the game.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we appreciate you giving us some time today.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: As this Broncos run continues, hopefully we'll have you.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: On some more my pleasure. Thanks for having me Sean
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: great stuff.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Broncos insider Chad Jensen Mile High Huddle. You can follow
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: him on Twitter