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- 0:00I know a guy who has four metric tons of silver and he if he
- 0:05deposit that into the state depository and his digitize, he
- 0:08has liquidity and that's the major issue with stackers.
- 0:15In the past few years we have seen a wave of new legislation
- 0:20sweeping across the country on a state by state basis giving you.
- 0:25Your ability to use gold and silver as legal tender, but what
- 0:30about Florida? What's going on in Florida?
- 0:34Today we have a special guest, Daniel Diaz.
- 0:37He's the Executive Director of Citizens for Sound Money.
- 0:41He lives in Florida and he has some exciting news to share with
- 0:45us regarding legal tender legislation in the state of
- 0:49Florida. Daniel, welcome to Ron's
- 0:51Basement. Thank you, Ron.
- 0:52It's great to be here. So there's a sales tax under on
- 0:57certain silver and gold transactions in the state of
- 1:01Florida. But you've got some big news for
- 1:04us about what we could might expect here in the coming year.
- 1:08Yeah, absolutely. So Florida right now has a sales
- 1:12tax on the purchase of gold and silver if it's less than $500,
- 1:17which is decent, but like if you buy a few rounds of silver and
- 1:20you're gonna have to pay, you know, 6 or 7% depending on the
- 1:22county you're in on sales tax. Our bill does three things.
- 1:27The first thing is it creates gold and silver as legal tender
- 1:31species. The second it creates a state
- 1:33depository so the state can have its gold and silver within its
- 1:36territorial borders. And the third thing it does is
- 1:39creates electronic gold and silver.
- 1:42So you can spend your gold and silver with a debit card just
- 1:45like you spend your dollars with a debit card or use Venmo or
- 1:48whatnot. There'll be other solutions like
- 1:50that. But the important thing about
- 1:52the legal tender, when you make gold and silver legal tender, we
- 1:56also have specific language that gets rid of all tax liabilities.
- 1:59So no longer will you have to pay sales tax on gold and silver
- 2:03within the state of Florida. If this gets passed or when, let
- 2:06me say when, because we have a lot of movement in Florida,
- 2:08which I'll touch on you shortly. And the other thing legal tender
- 2:12bills do what which I didn't mention in the other video or
- 2:16interview, is that there is a state, sorry, a federal code, US
- 2:22code 18, section 486 and I'm going to read it verbatim
- 2:27because it's kind of scary. I, I, I, I'm, I'm surprised 46
- 2:32that this the federal government passed it so it was passed on I
- 2:35think in 1943. But it's US Code 1846 states.
- 2:40Whoever, except as authorized by law, which includes states
- 2:45making it legal tender, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to
- 2:50utter or pass any coins of gold or silver or other metal or
- 2:54alloys of metals intended for the use of current current
- 2:58money. Whether the resemblance of coins
- 2:59in the United States or foreign coins or of original design
- 3:03shall be fined on this title doesn't say how much when it's
- 3:06$5000 or imprisoned, not more than five years, or both.
- 3:13So if you try to use gold and silver as current money in any
- 3:16state that doesn't have legal tender, you can be fined
- 3:19federally $5000 or in prison for five years, or both.
- 3:23That's why it's so important that we pass legal tender bills
- 3:27or sound like For instance, the Sound Money Act does all three
- 3:29things in the state. So not only does it get rid of
- 3:32sales tax in Florida, it protects every resident of
- 3:34Florida from being in prison for using gold and silver as legal
- 3:37tender. Wow, wow.
- 3:39A lot, a lot going on. You talked about something very
- 3:43interesting that Florida residents may be able to look
- 3:46forward to as well. And it it feels like to me what
- 3:48you're talking about is making silver and gold functional again
- 3:53as well. Do you want to elaborate on that
- 3:56a little bit? Yeah, absolutely.
- 3:58So right now there's four states in the Union that have legal
- 4:02tender laws. You have Utah, Wyoming, Oklahoma
- 4:06and Arkansas Overall, that's more of a a symbolic gesture of
- 4:10saying that hey, we we recognize gold and silver as legal tender.
- 4:12It creates those protections, right, gets rid of sales tax,
- 4:15but overall it doesn't really do much for using gold and silver
- 4:18even with a depository. For instance, in Utah, they they
- 4:22don't have a state depository, but they have the UPMA and then
- 4:24Texas, they're the first state in the union that has a
- 4:27depository. But overall those depositories
- 4:30aren't full. They're not being used because
- 4:33who uses gold and silver anymore?
- 4:35Like even with this federal law, like who's going to go into a
- 4:37store right now and and pay with an ounce of gold $25.00 worth of
- 4:41of of products. Hardly anybody.
- 4:43But if we make it functional just like we deposit our cash
- 4:48because who carries cash anymore?
- 4:49If you're one of the few that carry cash, you know you're
- 4:52you're in the minority. Most people don't carry physical
- 4:54cash anymore. They deposit it, that deposited
- 4:57physical cash is digitized and then you can spend it with a
- 5:01debit card. It's functional currency and by
- 5:04making gold and silver digital or electronic, in this case we
- 5:09we use electronic because a lot of people don't like digital.
- 5:12It becomes functional again. And then the Texas depository,
- 5:15if it gets past the special legislative session, the Utah,
- 5:19if the bill passes in Utah or in Florida depositories will start
- 5:23getting filled up with people's gold.
- 5:24Because hey, I know a guy who has four metric tons of silver
- 5:29and he if he deposit that into the state depository and it did
- 5:33size he has liquidity and that's the major issue with stackers.
- 5:37I I I started physically stacking with this year and it's
- 5:40great. I'm I have a a safe stack of of
- 5:44gold and silver but I can't use it unless I pick take it to the
- 5:47store buy it you know trade it in for Fiat or whatnot or buy
- 5:51Fiat right. That's what we're being doing
- 5:52buying something Fiat. But if I deposit in the state
- 5:55depository now, it's liquid and I can spend my physical gold and
- 5:59silver anywhere I want. And it's not just in the state
- 6:03of Florida, because it would be used with an either MasterCard
- 6:06or Visa card, and you can use your gold and silver anywhere on
- 6:09the planet as cash. Yeah.
- 6:11And let me, and let me interject, I'm a big proponent
- 6:15of that as long as it is audited, regulated, transparent.
- 6:22Segregated to a degree, you know then terms of the state
- 6:26depositories that the that the silver and gold are are not
- 6:29accessible by the politicians to help pay for you know whatever
- 6:33they want to use it to pay for. And I know that's the case and I
- 6:36and I want to point out why I'm so much in favor of, you know,
- 6:41asset backed. Digital currencies, right, not
- 6:44central bank digital currencies because there's a big
- 6:47difference. Asset backed digital currencies,
- 6:49meaning there's the asset there, it's real, it's the digital
- 6:54currency is 100% backed by in this case silver and gold and
- 6:58that is because. You know, if you fly up here in
- 7:01your private jet today to Saint Louis and I want to take you to
- 7:04lunch and I say, hey, Daniel, let's go, I'm going to pay with
- 7:07Silver, right? Well, there are maybe a few
- 7:10restaurants in Saint Louis, but we would be hard pressed to find
- 7:13a restaurant that would take my American Silver Eagle to pay for
- 7:17lunch. So instead what we would have to
- 7:19do is. You'd get in my car, we'd drive
- 7:22to my local coin shop, I would convert that, that one ounce of
- 7:26silver into Fiat, right. But I would also be be paying
- 7:31that, you know the premium, the spread difference on that.
- 7:34I would lose money in doing that.
- 7:36Then we get the Fiat, then we would go to lunch and I would
- 7:38pay with that money. What you're talking about is an.
- 7:42A rather long winded example on my behalf is being able to
- 7:45actually have. Silver and gold in in a in a in
- 7:50an account basically that is functional that you can use that
- 7:55you you know it'd be it's seamless and and and you can use
- 7:58to spend and and this legislation provides for that
- 8:04100%. Yeah and it it that's the most
- 8:08important thing and that's what look we haven't since we got off
- 8:11the gold center in 1971. We haven't had the technology
- 8:15until recently within the like 6 years because of the advent of
- 8:19blockchain technology. Now there are other companies
- 8:21out there throughout history who like within the early 2000s that
- 8:24were doing digital gold and silver.
- 8:26It's more of a database system but daily based systems are
- 8:29really centralized unless they have verbage in there that's
- 8:33more of a bailment or Bailey situation where the gold is
- 8:38actually yours and then they the the company.
- 8:41The third party doesn't control it which is what the companies
- 8:45that are part of our coalition we have a coalition at gold and
- 8:47silver companies digital and physical that are part of the
- 8:50citizen sound money are do nobody you own your gold and
- 8:54silver and in Florida that is exactly the language we have in
- 8:59there. We not only state that the state
- 9:01can the legislature cannot appropriate which is what you
- 9:03said segregation cannot appropriate any gold and silver.
- 9:06It also states that the state is acting as a Bailey where
- 9:10basically he's just warehousing your gold and silver the gold
- 9:13and silver yours. Plus we took the Texas anti
- 9:16confiscation language from their depository and put it in
- 9:19Florida. So the state and the federal
- 9:21government by state law cannot confiscate the gold and silver
- 9:25and that's extremely, really important.
- 9:27And by digitizing that and being able to spend your gold, not the
- 9:31states gold, your gold as currency, it gives everybody the
- 9:36opportunity to one protect their purchasing power by opting out
- 9:40of the Federal Reserve System and putting your cash into gold
- 9:44and silver. And that's what's extremely
- 9:48important with asset backed digital currencies or as we're
- 9:51calling it electronic gold and silver at at the state level.
- 9:55And in Florida we have two great champions for this bill.
- 10:00We have Representative Bankson and Senator Rodriguez.
- 10:06Senator Rodriguez is out of the Monroe, Miami area and
- 10:10Representative Bankson is in the Apopka area.
- 10:13And through our legislative efforts, Ron, we have since
- 10:18October we have met with 54 legislators in the House and the
- 10:23Senate. We also met with the CF OS
- 10:25office. We also met with Governor
- 10:27DeSantis office and almost every single 11 legislator, all the
- 10:33other 53 legislators and and officers in the executive branch
- 10:37that we met are enthusiasts. In fact Speaker Renner, the
- 10:41Speaker of the House of Florida, when we met with him, he said
- 10:44quote I'm enthusiastically supportive but he wanted more
- 10:48information and he also said who else is doing this?
- 10:51We told him, well, Texas, Utah and a few other states, he's
- 10:53like, I want to be first. So the Speaker of the House
- 10:56wants to be the first state in the Union to pass the Sell Money
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- 11:25Daniel, isn't it ironic? I look at Florida, I look at
- 11:30Texas, not just with silver and gold, legal tender legislation
- 11:34and movements, but I look at them in general as being growing
- 11:37progressive states, right. They've been modeled, you know,
- 11:41leading the country in terms of growth and that.
- 11:43But isn't it ironic? So in my opinion, progressive
- 11:46now financially progressive as well, but that we're talking
- 11:50about. Silver and gold, which are the,
- 11:54you know, the the oldest and really in my opinion the only
- 11:57forms of real or one of the only forms of real money real value
- 12:01out there that that now where these progressive states are
- 12:05are, are are taking action to move silver and gold back to
- 12:12allowing them to reclaim their original status.
- 12:16Does that, does that make sense? Yeah.
- 12:18Well, I would say that most of the states when you say
- 12:21progressive, you don't mean politically progressive, you
- 12:23mean progressive sense as moving forward with like the economy
- 12:27and technology and so forth. Progressive.
- 12:30Nah, not not from a, let's say, liberal perspective, but more
- 12:34from a progressive in terms of they're they're making, taking
- 12:40steps and doing things. To to grow their economy to to
- 12:45grow the, you know the the the the standard of living within
- 12:49their states. That when I look at states like
- 12:52Texas and Florida like you know they're they're they're
- 12:56innovative in some ways. But that what we're talking
- 12:59about at the same time is bringing back and just allowing
- 13:04the state to to to to to recognize and use silver and
- 13:08gold as what they've always been which is real money.
- 13:11Yeah 100% no 100 I agree Florida Texas Utah New Hampshire the all
- 13:18these states that we're working with are 100% progressive when
- 13:22it comes to their their economies and growing and and
- 13:25and moving forward with the latest technology as well right.
- 13:28Like Florida was the first state in the union to create a a
- 13:32blockchain or fintech position under the the governor and you
- 13:36know I I like saying Florida's the greatest state in the union.
- 13:39Texas is the second greatest state in the union.
- 13:41I know Texas thinks the greatest, so it's kind of a
- 13:42battle back and forth, Florida. Don't forget about don't.
- 13:45Hey, Dana. Don't forget about Missouri.
- 13:47Yes, Missouri is is the third greatest state in the union.
- 13:50Well, actually I think New Hampshire would have a say in
- 13:52that they they were recently voted, I think by the Cato
- 13:54Institute as the freest state in the union with overtook Florida.
- 13:57Yeah. And and maybe I I I want to make
- 14:00sure I want to clarify what I said earlier what I what I
- 14:02didn't mean that from a perspective is actually I think
- 14:04it's ironic that the the in some ways the most in some ways
- 14:08conservative states. Are also states that are
- 14:13thriving right now, and at the same time the ones that are
- 14:18interested in bringing this legal tender legislation to the
- 14:23forefront and allowing their citizens to reclaim, because
- 14:27this is in the US Constitution, allowing their their citizens to
- 14:30reclaim their their right to use silver and gold as legal tender.
- 14:36Did I do a better job second time around explaining myself?
- 14:40Much better. I become aggressive as a
- 14:43political consultant for 23 years.
- 14:45I'm thinking, whoa, wait, progressive.
- 14:47That's bad. I know my my lights, my lights
- 14:49started flickering in the basement when I said that.
- 14:51I don't know what happened, but that's why I'm like, Are you
- 14:54sure about that? Yeah.
- 14:57I meant, I meant progressive from a fact, like I said, that
- 15:00they're they're conservative, but they're growing.
- 15:03And they're and they're innovative.
- 15:04I guess innovative would have been a more appropriate anyway.
- 15:07Nonetheless, I digress. Go ahead, very much so.
- 15:09And there's some states that are really still slow to accepting
- 15:13change, right. And you wouldn't call those
- 15:15states progressive, but Florida and taxes, because we're such
- 15:20large economies, we're very progressive in moving forward
- 15:23and accepting technologies that other states will not.
- 15:25So yes, and I think that's why Florida and taxes are such
- 15:28leaders in the state not state like the country because of the
- 15:33the steps they're willing to take to move forward and and
- 15:35accept new technologies and and and and so forth.
- 15:39But yes, I I, I forget what was the main point we were talking
- 15:43about. But.
- 15:44Let let's let's let's bring us up to speed on what's going on
- 15:48specifically right now in Florida is what's what's the
- 15:52status of the legislation. Yeah.
- 15:54So today is can I say the date on my sure, yeah.
- 15:58So today is Monday, November 27th.
- 16:02We have submitted the Sound Money Act into bill drafting.
- 16:05Every state calls it different, but bill drafting essentially
- 16:08are the attorneys that you said that the legislators send their
- 16:11bills and then they make sure it's formatted correctly and
- 16:13doesn't violate any laws and they and change things to make
- 16:16sure it's compliant with state law.
- 16:18So we've submitted it now a second time.
- 16:20We're expecting the bill to come out of bill drafting this week
- 16:24and then bank representative Banks and Senator Rodriguez
- 16:26should file the bill this week as well.
- 16:31And once we file the bills, we get bill numbers.
- 16:33So we'll be able to put a bill number on on like future
- 16:37interviews and and our websites and so forth on what to support
- 16:40and what specifically to to do then in December in Florida.
- 16:45This Florida is different from most states.
- 16:46We actually meet starting in September, what they call
- 16:51committee weeks and they meet for about two weeks a month and
- 16:56they they pass legislation. They hit listen committees that
- 16:59we had just had a special legislative session in November,
- 17:03but it's normally the first two weeks of the month.
- 17:06So in December, the week of the 4th and the week of the 11th, if
- 17:10we submit the bill in time, we our goal is to get the bills
- 17:14heard and passed through one committee, at least one,
- 17:18hopefully 21 in the Senate, one in the House before session
- 17:22starts next year, the 20th and 24th.
- 17:24So right now we're waiting for the bills to come out.
- 17:27Once it comes out, we glance over it, make sure it wasn't
- 17:30changed too much. We submit the bill.
- 17:32We might start getting this bill pushed through the legislative
- 17:37process starting in December. And once we know which
- 17:41committees are assigned for those that don't want to send
- 17:44the process or don't know over the process, once the bill's
- 17:46submitted and filed, then the Speaker of the House or the
- 17:50President of the Senate, depending on what legislative
- 17:52body you're in there. I think like Nebraska, they
- 17:55don't. It's a unicameral, but they
- 17:57choose where the bills go. So in the state of Florida and
- 18:01every state's different, I'm just talking about Florida.
- 18:04Typically if the the leadership only puts it in two committees,
- 18:08that means they it's a favorable wide leadership and they want to
- 18:11push it through. If it's put in three committees
- 18:13in each chamber, it's like neither here or there.
- 18:16They're they're passive. They don't.
- 18:18If they don't want to kill it, they don't want to push it
- 18:19through. But if it goes into 4
- 18:21committees, it's dead on arrival.
- 18:24The leader, if he goes to the four committees in Florida, it's
- 18:26not going to get through because that's a lot of hearings and
- 18:28there's not enough time. It's possible with enough
- 18:32grassroots, but we really only wanted to be in 22 committees.
- 18:36So that is where I would say if you live in the state of
- 18:40Florida, call your legislators and we'll post a link.
- 18:44Underneath we have a a a campaign for on a line act.com.
- 18:49For the specifics for sound money act.
- 18:52Go to that website, fill in your address, and then it'll pop up
- 18:55your legislators and send those legislators emails.
- 18:59And if you really want to push sound money act, I recommend
- 19:03making a phone call. Here's a statistic for lobbying
- 19:05statistic. An e-mail counts for about 50
- 19:08votes. A phone call counts for about
- 19:12100 votes. A handwritten letter is around
- 19:151000 votes. And if you go in person in the
- 19:18lobby, you represent 5000 votes. So yeah, send an e-mail.
- 19:22It's about 50. You're representing about 50
- 19:24votes. And it's important that you're
- 19:25sending it from your your district because legislators
- 19:29want to hear from their constituents, not from somebody
- 19:32from Alaska, from Florida. They want to hear from the
- 19:34constituents, not somebody from Tallahassee, from Miami.
- 19:37If you live in Miami and you have a Rep, you want to e-mail
- 19:40them specifically because that carries the most weight.
- 19:44And the legislators representing you, they don't represent the
- 19:47person in the district next door.
- 19:48They represent you. So it's most important you reach
- 19:51out to them. And I recommend giving them a
- 19:52call because if you e-mail them at 50, you call them, it's 150
- 19:55votes. And if you want to visit them at
- 19:56the district office, that's 5000 votes.
- 19:59So if you really want to get this pushed, go to the
- 20:02legislative district office. When they're not in session,
- 20:04they're like, hey. I'm here to support this bill,
- 20:07you know, So, yeah. And and go.
- 20:12Ahead. Well, it's it's A and Pat
- 20:14Holland from the Missouri Freedom Initiative has said this
- 20:16many times, and I heard you just say it as well, this is a
- 20:20grassroots movement and grassroots support is critical.
- 20:24So if you're watching this video and you live in Florida, or you
- 20:27live in Missouri or you live in Texas.
- 20:29You know, reach out and reach out to your Rep representatives,
- 20:33but you know, or reach out to someone like Daniel or or or
- 20:37Patrick Howland and see what you can do to help support it.
- 20:41Because it does make a difference.
- 20:43I mean if it takes people and the more the better first.
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- 21:29and donate. There's a donation link and
- 21:32donate to our cause. Lobbying is not cheap.
- 21:34We're a nonprofit 5O1C4 organization.
- 21:37We don't sell anything. Oh OK, we have a little store.
- 21:39We sell some things but doesn't wasn't really fun to us.
- 21:41We we need to raise money to continue lobbying, not just in
- 21:45Florida but across the country and just in Florida alone.
- 21:49It's over $10,000 a month to to cover and then all of our
- 21:54lobbying efforts is around $20,000 a month and we're a
- 21:58nonprofit and we're burning through our our reserves, our
- 22:02our war chest as you can say in the political world.
- 22:04So if you want to see the sell money act pass in Florida, if
- 22:07you want us to continue putting pressure on legislators across
- 22:10the country, please visit our website.
- 22:12Please donate at be as generous as possible.
- 22:15We typically have companies and part of our coalition who donate
- 22:20physical gold and silver if you give over a certain threshold.
- 22:24I think if you go to sorry about plugging another guy but he's
- 22:29part of our coalition. Rob Keats from Gold Silver Pros
- 22:34he's doing a a donation. If you get $250 or more he'll
- 22:37send you one free oz $500 or more.
- 22:40I think he'll send you the one ounce and a 5 oz bar the 1st 20.
- 22:44I think the 1st 15. So we have people who are
- 22:47donating physical gold and silver so you get a a a bang for
- 22:50your buck to donate as well. But even if you're we don't have
- 22:53a a special like that or a giveaway, please give so we can
- 22:57pass this out not just in Florida, but across the country.
- 23:01Yeah, no, I don't mind you mentioning Rob Keens.
- 23:03He's a person I've watched for years and learned from, gosh,
- 23:08seems like almost 10 years now. He's he's been a real.
- 23:12Warrior and proponent for the for the precious metals industry
- 23:16Daniel, thank you. Can we count on you for updates
- 23:20here in the coming months and hopefully some celebrations as
- 23:23as as we see some possible movement in this legislation,
- 23:29absolutely 100%. I mean, as we progress through
- 23:32the different states as as they progress through the legislative
- 23:35process, I'll be 100% here updating you.
- 23:38Yeah. And and we talked a lot about
- 23:40Florida today, but I want to make it real clear that your
- 23:43organization is a national organization and and that long
- 23:48term division is to help many, many states forward the similar
- 23:53type legislation. Is that is that accurate?
- 23:56Yeah. Not only are we national, we're
- 23:58actually international. We have a citizen sound money
- 24:00Turkey because of their inflation problem.
- 24:03When we have a student that we give a scholarship to who is
- 24:06educating his fellow college students and and friends and
- 24:09creates YouTube videos in in Turkish Turkey, I don't know.
- 24:13I don't forget what the language is that they speak.
- 24:15But but yeah, we support him and that's where some of our money
- 24:19goes as well to support our, our, our Turkey and any other
- 24:23country that wants to bring sound money to to them, to to
- 24:27their their state or province or whatever we will support.
- 24:30But yes, right now we're primarily America and we have a
- 24:33branch in Turkey, but we're a national, international non
- 24:37profit pushing sound money legislation.
- 24:40Well, you can count on Ron's basement and all of my fellow
- 24:44basement dwellers here to be cheering for you all the way.
- 24:48Thanks again, Daniel and we will look forward to seeing you soon.
- 24:52Thank you for having me on again, Ron.