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BFB #500: Broncos vs. 49ers: What to Watch For · Mile High Huddle Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome in and it is Wednesday morning August six it's time for an episode of Broncos for breakfast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Nick Kendall joined by Eric trickle Eric happy Wednesday to you hope you're doing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to ask you real quick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's a a fire in your building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every family pets are safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can save one souvenir item behind you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's one is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Falcon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The big Falcon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The big legal Falcon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right and why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the most expensive one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was almost a thousand bucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one that's being saved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, for me, gosh, which one am I saving here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta have something sentimental value behind me here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If one of those sentimental value, it'd be the custom pot figure that my wife made me for fathers that this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can say both of those then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got two hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am probably saving my Mount Whitney hat just because I bought it after I submitted the tallest peak in the lower forty eight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that one has I love the hat too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I hadn't been wearing it because I was getting a little bit scuzzy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's up there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I got any autographs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I have a Kirk parents autograph there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It says happy birthday, Nicholas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So happy birthday, Kirk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just turned seventy years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The oldest head coach in college football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So enough with our silly stuff behind me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My background's going to be changing here pretty soon because I got to pack all this up as we move to Denver here in the next five to eight weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So wish me luck on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't share with the room around me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like right now, but I've been off work just grinding away in the basement, packing everything up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wish me luck with that over the next month.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to squeeze in a few hikes here and there as well as enjoying the Pacific Northwest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's say what everybody in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rob in the house.
1:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it Saturday yet?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait for actual football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually going to have to watch the game afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric, you're going to have to chat for give me.
2:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a be gifted tickets to the Mariners game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the big, eachero ceremony game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two of my friends had an extra ticket and they know I'm moving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, please come to the game with us and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got the OK from the boss to go Saturday evening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go watch the the Mariners game and it's always a good time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have some way too expensive IPAs out there at the stadium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably going to have to be on me since they're giving me the ticket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We had Jason coming in saying Troy Franklin stock rising as he continues to stack good days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The undeniable talent is taking over in year two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very young player, seemingly stepping forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think barring a trade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is a shoe and to make the roster at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I talked about it a lot with Carl last night Eric.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're almost approaching a Trinity Benson kind of situation with the Broncos where it's like you have so many, three, fours, fives right now that are rosterable that you can't sneak them all in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What does it mean for the undrafted free agents that have had some quiet buzz behind them as well?
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[SPEAKER_02]: can Denver flip one of these wide receivers for a early day, three pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's arbitrary Franken, because you traded up to go get him as an early round four, and you're probably not going to get equitable return, but valet question mark is he somebody out there that could be moved.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're probably, you want to trade man as you're probably not trading Brian.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's probably valet may be Franklin as well, but we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at it, I think that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey would be the one most likely because of, you know, seventh round pick, been dealing with injuries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can try to showcase some during the preseason and get some for him because by all accounts, Joaquin Davis and Courtney Jackson are also absolutely shining throughout camp so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Troy Franklin is he's doing very well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's hit kind of hit that point where it would be hard to trade him unless a team comes in offering something great for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're not going to get a return of investment on him most likely because nobody's going to come in offering what would be basically a late third pick or an early fourth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the equipment of what, you know, they wouldn't used on them to go trade and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I think Bailey would be the one more likely to be moved, but they are definitely making it hard for Sean Peyton and George Peyton when it comes to making the decisions of what to do with the weather's either room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always a good thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good on Troy Franklin that he's stepping up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How does he finish?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one big thing is, again, I've said this before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the years, there have been multiple times where somebody started the first week or two of camp extremely hot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get to preseason games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fall flat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They failed to close out the preseason and regular season for all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're part of the first batch of cuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even get considered back for the practice squad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, not saying that's going to be terrific, but it's just, hey, it's great that he's starting out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, can he keep it up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I consistency carry over?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I carry over to games?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I carry over to join practices?
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[SPEAKER_00]: but they, uh, good looking rum right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely put them as wrong and maybe they end up keeping seven receivers because they're forced to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it'll be very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I can't imagine them getting trade value for Trent and sure field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One thing about Vali as well, that changes the math, in my opinion, two things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You draft a Pat Bryant, big physical player, big slot, slash X. I can do that stuff similar to Vali.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just re-up the court on Sutton, which has been a question mark as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Franklin is a different skill set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mims is a different skill set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a little bit of overlap with those other three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: obviously you just drafted Bryant and you paid Sutton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think video is a great player and I'm very happy to have him and you mentioned the widersaver room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're still searching for, you know, actual widersaver too, we're right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a bunch of three fours, which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can get by with that, but it would be awesome if somebody could step up to be, you know, Eric Decker and Mango Sanders level of two, because we're not there right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no Troy Franklin stack them good days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to add in, I don't expect sure feel too after reading and listening to what Darren Rizzi had to say by him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I fully expect sure feel to make this roster for special teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And get a jersey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: every active, so it was not only making the jersey, but to have somebody who's playing special teams for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Chase Wander, Iron Shopper and Iron, good to see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember folks to join our membership over at Mile High, how to like Chase, hang out with him, appreciate you coming in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Also Dave Klassman doing the same, good to see you.
6:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do we have a post seven, thirty start time?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We started seven, forty five because Scott and I are long-winded and Scott won a little long, and also I had to get a re-up and coffee.
6:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It was our
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[SPEAKER_02]: Block party across Seattle last last night Eric and in Seattle being an American edition or so windows got to be open at night.
6:52
[SPEAKER_02]: My neighbors were up in my alley right behind my bedroom bumping music until one AM last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got four hours of sleep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need my coffee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why maybe I'll start post in seven, forty instead.
7:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Kanga.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just also I had to say hello to the little guy who got up and ran over to me when I cooked my head up for coffee and wanted to give me a hug.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I love you guys, but not as much as that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Denver Luke, good to see you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hope you're doing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you coming in.
7:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we got Troy Barrison, the coupe clamoring is what I remember the most or cup, Cooper Cup, not coupe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Broncos were looking for a little bit more sure thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that they had money to spend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In hindsight, it's good that they, right now it's easy to say in hindsight, it's good they didn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what the wider receiver room actually looks like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you games in, but I'm happy they didn't spend that money, especially for what he got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got a much bigger contract than I was, like if he was much cheaper, sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not much harm there, but he got a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Austin H. Good morning, Jens.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What under the radar player you excited to watch this week?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested to see and live out Bailey how he looks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a big one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the second biggest one is probably the linebacker room and specifically LaVelle Bailey and I am interested in the other undrafted free agents just because there probably is going to be opportunity given what's going on with Sanders missing time now who knows about Singleton and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Green law long term that's been talk about green law maybe playing Singleton as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see any reason to for either of those guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I protect them as much as possible, especially a team that San Francisco that's physical, but down your last season maybe a little bit chippier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't this I wouldn't mess with it too much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that you're trying to establish mentality, but we need to get to the finish line of
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[SPEAKER_02]: the preseason, uh, before we get into two chipy, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to see what the undrafted reagents and level Bailey look like at linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably storyline number three for me on this team as we enter this first joint practice in training game or a preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that they're going to play starters and this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one where I probably wouldn't in the game anyways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: San Francisco is so banged up because of how physical they are in practice that they were actually asked that they're going to even do the joint practices with the Broncos this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he is because they are that beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good portion of their starters, a lot of their depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two of their three starting corners are heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Two of their starting linebackers, their top two running bags, like their three other top four wide receivers, like they are so beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of want to see what the intensity level is in practice, but as for this game, I'm really excited to watch who was a Rikai and over the years I've been, it's a better roller coaster with him, but he's been getting a lot of hype from people that I've been talking with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Bloner is a guy that I'm kind of curious to see and the wider sievers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see what they do against the against the a different secondary but their part of the reason why they're doing well is because of familiarity with these guys that you're in Denver and kind of no one what they're going to be seeing and how does how do they do against corners that they don't know what they're going to be facing against.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I know that you mentioned Oazarekay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I like to bring up the important note that he still has two years of cost control because of that one year that did not carry over for his contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So while Mathis, from that same fourth round, same draft, Nick Benito, their contract's expire this season, you still have two years of control for Oazarekay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a little bit of a value in your pocket and reason to maybe keep him if there's anything close.
10:39
[SPEAKER_02]: For the Broncos, right now, I mean, you're obviously keeping saving on Jones, Malcolm Roach, DJ Jones, Zach Allen, JFM.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is five right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The question is, would you keep six?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and especially for active, right now my assumption is that Waza Rique makes the roster, and he's a game day inactive, unless an injury occurs obviously that changes the math, but definitely want to be great if they could find another cheap cost-controlled depth option.
11:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't rotate any position as much as the defensive line, and the more quality bodies you have there,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the better the baseline of your defenses week to week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So excited to hear that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned that yesterday in one of our chats and I was my ears perked up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even though he's an Iowa State guy, that was a pick that we were very excited about when it was made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, the thing I'm looking forward to the most because, I mean, we kind of talked about why the series already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my number two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can get back into that if we want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's the depth of the defensive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are the offensive one?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Long term, the Broncos have been very top heavy and they're not long term, but recently they've been to a very top heavy in their expenditures on the offensive line that that has come with not drafting them and not a lot of mid level signings as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the way the team is set up right now, you have one
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[SPEAKER_02]: If not two openings on the offensive line next season, and I would love to have a situation where you already have viable options in-house for those spots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about Luke Wattenberg, departing contract expires.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Solid started not the best in the run game, but you know, he's for a cost-controlled rookie contract, fifth round pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's good hit, good development.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to have guys like that sprinkled across your roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So happy to have him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here, I'm not sure what his future looks like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing he's probably going to get a Lloyd Kushenberry-esque contract, but who knows?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have power suits again, fine, a B-minus probably level starter, but with his contract, how it sets up, left guard could be an opening as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So my eyes are on mainly the interior two spots there, and what could that look like?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got Alex Forsyth, of course, who started the last season with some good run blocking highlights here and there, but the past blocking obviously the low light versus the chiefs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you got one of Nick or excuse me, Bo, Nick's his henchmen, Nick Greg duo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I always pronounce the name of Garjulio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me and tight for me on that first one, but he's been falling around Bo, Nick's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he could be somebody guard center of flexibility as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got Alex Forsyth, who right now is the right tackle, but long-term might be better as a guard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's another one who's like does he actually have enough like
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[SPEAKER_02]: at the point of attack, earth moving ability, but now the Denver is going to implement more wide zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What does that look like?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then finally Clay Webb as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So left guard, center, and who are stepping up on the depth of the offensive line?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not expecting the Broncos first string offensive line to be out there this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if we heard much about that or if that's been reported or not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So really the depth of the offensive line and can we have somebody
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[SPEAKER_02]: internal step up and give the team a young cost controlled option long term, because then it gives you flexibility in the draft, flexibility in free agency.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If one of those undrafted low draft pick free agent, or guys can develop into a competent, even just a lukewarm bird level starter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big money and really good for the health of the Broncos long term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's, as you said, I really want to see the, some of these depth guy step up and reading in on what's been happening at the Ford and Irish practice to get an idea.
14:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Their depth on the defensive line and their defensive front has been doing quite well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alfred Collins has been having been a monster for them up front.
14:23
[SPEAKER_00]: What's his name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other Indiana defensive lineman that they drafted.
14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: CJ West.
14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing really well for them upfront and neither one of them are starters right now, so they'll probably get a lot of action and a lot of running this.
14:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You have Michael Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing very well for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've had a lot of guys on a defensive front doing well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So do these depth guy step up.
14:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned Ben Powers.
14:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, next year, he's cost basically eight and a half million against a salary cap and his play hasn't been worth anywhere near that.
14:54
[SPEAKER_00]: His play hasn't been worth the seventeen point five million days getting this year on the good side again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably been about an eight to ten, maybe eleven, twelve million dollar average per year basis level player.
15:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to, you know, put that value in a contract aspect, which is about where his base pay is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The restructure that he had not last off season, obviously inflated his cap number this year.
15:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But they have a way out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He does have money that is due that becomes guaranteed at some point after the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it is like March like night teams I believe.
15:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can save, in a regular cut, he still is, he, it's dead money isn't greater than what you say, but you typically don't see teams make the move in that case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're only saving about eight million whereas,
15:45
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about almost nine million and then it's almost ten million in dead money in a regular cut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he doesn't perform well, we will likely see a post June first designation form, which spreads the cap it, dead cap it money over, you know, next season on the season after.
16:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So Ben Powers very much playing for a job right now.
16:05
[SPEAKER_00]: for this season, because of this financial situations and the Quattenburg as you talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So can some of these guys step up, the undrafted free agent, whose name is case me at the moment, can he step up and push?
16:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course I trust.
16:18
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, Clay Webb.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what?
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can Forsyth step up or, uh, Cordula?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cordula?
16:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Not Cordula.
16:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Web can Web step up and push Forsyth, even for the backup job this year.
16:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to have to pass it off to you.
16:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I am getting a weird beeping noise on my end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
16:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a good news there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just glad you're going to figure out what it is.
16:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
16:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, hopefully it's not your carbon monoxide alarm.
16:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Gatorade game and good morning in Hicken, Eric and Dylan.
16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: What's good Broncos country.
16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Troy coming in with a nine, nine, nine, nine super chat.
16:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It says shaping up to be a coaching staff talked about yours from now.
16:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Fans Joseph Jim Leonard's X-Streaf web.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Rizzi, of course, as well.
17:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Lamberti is a good piece to have here as well.
17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and we'll see.
17:05
[SPEAKER_02]: The big one is we'll be defensive line coach after and the edge rusher after what happened with will hold this off season, but yeah, it looks like to be a very, very good coaching staff and that's something that having the Broncos very, very wealthy ownership group is a huge positive.
17:19
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no salary cap on the coaches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sean Peyton has a lot of connections over the years he's been here.
17:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And does seem like, I mean, given what we saw this offseason, Eric with the lions and the bears, I think we had multiple Broncos coaches picked off.
17:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this Sean Peyton scheme, if you will, is going to be what everybody's looking for.
17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And I granted Sean's changing things this offseason, looking for more wide zone.
17:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So good to see him, you know, year, seventeen, eighteen, still evolving and changing based on what he's seen.
17:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He's always been somebody who's like to been very multiple.
17:48
[SPEAKER_02]: in his offensive line and given you have bringing everybody back, it makes sense to look into more variety and communication and chemistry based with the wide zone.
17:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be fun to see.
17:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no good coaching staff and it all starts from the top with ownership and Sean Payton.
18:03
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18:08
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18:13
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18:18
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18:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Good morning.
18:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's move to hear what Sean Payton said about the team.
18:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great to hear what Sean Payton said about team.
18:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's really excited for this team.
18:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Sean Payton has never been one to lean away from the spotlight and he's putting expectations and pressure on this team.
18:36
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's putting his money where his mouth is, I guess.
18:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So if they fall flat, he's going to take shots, but he believes in them.
18:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm always a little bit more cautious, but he has way better insight, information, and perspective than I do.
18:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So you should be excited with how Sean Payton's talking about this team without a doubt in the world.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, as you said, he's one of the ones that he doesn't really mince words.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to tell you how he feels and be very vocal about it.
19:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not afraid of putting the expectations on his team.
19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We've known that.
19:08
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how he was in New Orleans.
19:10
[SPEAKER_00]: He was very honest with the expectations with his teams there.
19:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, towards the end, it was where there's going to be trying to compete to for a playoff spot.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And so when he comes out and starts talking Super Bowl, well, I mentioned it before, is this team internally at the very least always believed that they've been a couldn't put in could push for the for the Super Bowl this year.
19:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're just hearing them talk about it.
19:33
[SPEAKER_00]: publicly, Sean Peyton made it very clear this year.
19:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Just yesterday and then I believe it was.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike McClunchy talked about having eyes on this, honestly, vulnerable in the press conference, the, you know, first press conference that they did.
19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe one of the defenders talked about having eyes on this helpful.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is something that they believe that they can do internally and Sean Peyton, if they don't imagine he's willing to take the heat, he always has been to an extent.
20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all securities if they fall flat, how he will kind of try to shift the blame because he does that a lot as well.
20:08
[SPEAKER_00]: but he is making the expectations known and very public and putting pressure on the team to step up and perform.
20:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Understandably so.
20:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're not shine away from it and it may be the press conference immediately following the bills loss talked about it's hard to go far in the playoffs if you don't have a home playoff game and the division is the expectation and guess what if the chiefs are in your division and the division is the expectation.
20:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Super Bowl is right there too, because they're out the same level, obviously with what the chief success has been.
20:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you are competing for the division, you compete for Super Bulls.
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And the AFC West Bonnie also brings good plan.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a hard, I need to see what trust looks like and where they're using him, but he says don't forget trust.
20:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was the highest paid undrafted free agent for the Broncos as well.
20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Now he is six foot seven and what does that mean for him playing guard with going X being six to again, that's not a short quarterback quarterback by any means, but that does complicate things.
21:06
[SPEAKER_02]: There'll be some like passes like Marvin Mims on a a drag or something where maybe you're not actually.
21:11
[SPEAKER_02]: getting him because you can't see him if you're a and bonus is under center, but we saw Drew Breeze at six foot play behind Andrea's Pete.
21:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I think who is six eight.
21:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So something that Peyton's done before if they tall an interviewer guy in a shorter quarterback, not that Nick's his short, but six two to six seven for trust.
21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, a lot of a lot of options right now for the Broncos on the interviewer right now.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: My expectation is the first time picking next year.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be somewhere on the offensive line, but with when you got gosh, how many to be named there?
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Five.
21:41
[SPEAKER_02]: offensive lineman there with those two potential spots.
21:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody could emerge and we're going to really start to figure that out this week, especially with as you mentioned it, the number of draft picks, uh, the footing owners used on the young defensive line and talented guys in last year's class.
21:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're looking for somebody to emerge, baby, and I'm excited to see that.
21:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and another thing with the offensive line that I'm curious to see when we get to the game is where do they line up at?
22:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of these guys trust being one of them was pretty strictly on the right side of the offensive line.
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's easier to switch from guard to tackle than it is to switch from left to right.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So with some of these guys, you don't really have experience on the left side of the line.
22:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Can they switch over, play that and can they look naturally net look natural doing it?
22:24
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a big issue that we've seen over the years with a lot of Broncos depth offensive linemen.
22:29
[SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of stuck on one side of it because they can't flip side.
22:33
[SPEAKER_00]: can Alex Paul Chesky can he finally show that he can flip side because he's been almost exclusively a right side guy and he hasn't when he has gotten reps on the left side hasn't gone well.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Frank Crump can he flip side because I mean he was just got off a lasher can he take a step up period.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But can he offer some of that versatility to be kind of a swing tackle even though Sean Payton prefers kind of a
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: peer backup, love tackle, peer backup, right tackle.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's, if he can't, maybe he ends up losing his job with somebody who can because Alex Pacheski is that backup, right tackle, who can move inside.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really curious to see that with these offensive linemen, as well as who steps up, of course.
23:15
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can get a lot of insight with where they line up, and I can kind of help you kind of project a little bit with what they're looking at with the offensive line.
23:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, gosh, I was sorry about that.
23:26
[SPEAKER_02]: We're such nerds.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Eric, we're just talking off and it's offensive line offensive line offensive line, uh, but it really is for this team long term and it's Sean Peyton.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're nerds, but like every single time Sean Peyton, you know, it's been all about how much his love affair with the Bonix this season, but every chance he gets also, he still mentions the offensive line being like, well, what are you doing to set up the quarterback or what's important?
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: What can make Bonix be a superstar?
23:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the offensive line in the defense, so he talks a lot about the game situations, not putting your quarterback in adverse game scripts, everything like that.
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of that starts with the offensive line.
23:59
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of young guys, we're not expecting a lot of starters to get too many reps, can some people on the offensive line emerge.
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: going to be big for the flexibility of this team going forward as the contracts start to balloon you get a little bit out of these Russell Wilson deadcap era, but you got McClunchy stepping up Alan Carlson getting paid what does it mean for Veneto and you're already paying
24:25
[SPEAKER_02]: four of your five offensive linemen.
24:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You need young players to step on.
24:29
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't necessarily have to be superstars either, but if you can get, look, Wattonburg level player with other good pieces around them and you hope the quarterback steps up.
24:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd expectation should not be in order for us to have a good enough quarterback.
24:41
[SPEAKER_02]: The offensive line has to be top three every year.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: You quarterback has to step up and there's going to be waves.
24:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You always want them to be top half, but, you know, that's just that's the natural flow of the NFL the cycle.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So in a salary cap.
24:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Did want to say a little Jason O'Neill, good morning, fam, and Broncos country.
24:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a while.
24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Good to see you, Jason.
25:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The amount of disrespect for Bonix here this year is crazy.
25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: How old do you think Bonix does this season?
25:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I think top ten top eight quarterback is not out of the question.
25:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I talked about it a lot last night with Carl.
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I think ideally, and this is going to really make some Broncos fans mad, but ideally, you still have detractors next season because the
25:18
[SPEAKER_02]: game scripts and situation around him doesn't ask him to be Josh Allen going psycho or MVP level quarterback every week.
25:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I think ideally you have him in that Brock party deck press got earlier Tom Brady mold where it's we're managing the game.
25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: We're controlling it the whole time.
25:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a top three defense special teams killing it offensive line makes it so that way we can run the football.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not having to drop back thirty five times and third and long constantly hitting these highlight real throws because
25:48
[SPEAKER_02]: The infrastructure, the scheming, the game script around him, the talent around him, keeps the Broncos from putting them in those harder situations in the quarterback.
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: The everybody, you know, kind of like Nate Tyson talks about the easy button to the Broncos and it's hard to evaluate Bonix, all the sprintouts and everything with all of that.
26:04
[SPEAKER_02]: What does he look like actually under pressure, he was under pressure so little last season.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an ideal situation for your quarterback.
26:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So if that all works out that way, the detractors are still going to have the ability to question him.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's fine.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That means there's good things going on for the Broncos as a whole.
26:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is a problem, eventually, Eric, when you get to three years from now on, it's time to talk contract with Bonix, because you'll have questions kind of like, how good actually is Brock Perti?
26:32
[SPEAKER_02]: We're paying him like he's great.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: How good actually is Perti?
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not there yet.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not going to worry about that.
26:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's have those questions because everything around him is so good and he's executing at a high level.
26:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't have to have him hit trick shot after trick shot for the offense to be good.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you kind of hit the nail on the head with that one.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I think at worst, we're talking about him as a top toe quarterback at worst.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the ideal situation with him in, you know, ideally you're talking, you know, top ten top eight, as you said.
27:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So at worst, top twelve at worst, you have doubts about him and like maybe one or two elements that he didn't, you know, had some issues with this year for being a second year quarterback.
27:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't not everything is going to be perfect.
27:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That's on expectations, but you know, you want
27:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Some clean up in certain areas that you saw as you said last year, maybe something new pops up a little bit, but that something that's not super concerning.
27:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the, as you said, the question of how much is it him, how much of it is the system, how much of it is those around him.
27:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually not a bad question to have.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: As you said until you get to that contract year, but we still have the multiple years of cost control.
27:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't need to worry about it yet.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We can still sit by and watch him grow and develop and see if he can become, you know, when the moments needed can he be that Josh Allen?
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: because they're going to be times for the defense falters, they're going to be times for those around, what are throughout them falters, what does he do in those situations?
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So ideally, you're talking about him as a top-tove quarterback at the very least after this season.
28:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think that's certainly possible for the Broncos and for Bonix.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Moving forward, Eric, the next thing that I am just super excited about.
28:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So we obviously know a lot of the veterans are not going to be out there in camp.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I am hoping that RJ Harvey just looks different out there at a different speed.
28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's kind of like when you have when you're playing old NCAA football and yeah, I'm not looking for this is too much, but Reggie Bush, when you have the old NCAA football playing on freshman mode and he's just like literally just looping around the defense because you're so much faster than everybody else and more explosive.
28:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an element that's Bronco's offense was sorely lacking the last season.
28:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I know the fumbles and the past protection
28:41
[SPEAKER_02]: until we have a little bit of a better idea with that Harvey's ceiling and opportunity will be capped.
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But I am hoping that he just looks different with the football on his hands when he is given opportunity.
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've said it a lot on the show obviously they really raised the floor with bringing in JK Dobbins and added a little bit more of a again.
29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: another option with more of a sure thing.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Winnie's healthy in the field, but the ceiling of the off Broncos offense is greatly dependent on how quickly RG Harvey can be implemented in what that looks like because he brings an explosive element with the ball on his hands.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Potentially as a receiver if that's still I think a little bit more.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: theory, then a reality given what we saw the UCF offense, but I am excited to see Harvey and I just hope it's one of those things where real game, a real football, it's just obvious.
29:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Running back, linebacker, it's so hard to freaking evaluate in these practice situations even when the pads are on.
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really replicate games.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So Harvey is one that I hope is musty TV and when he gets the football, it's like, well, I know that we got questions about the past protection still.
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we got some of the fumble stuff got to be better, but he is just too explosive in electric to keep off the field.
29:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I'm really hoping on Harvey for one of the big ticket guys coming out of this first preseason game.
30:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, what you're kind of wanting from him, at least what I'm wanting from him is to make it clear that he is the top back in terms of first and second down when you're in more running situations where you don't necessarily have to worry about him in past protection because you're not going to be using him in past protection.
30:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to have to be worrying about trying to
30:20
[SPEAKER_00]: pick up that first down on on as you do on third down.
30:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You can use them as a route runner or you can use them as a runner and allow JK Dobbins to fill that third down roll where there's enough there's a receiver enough there's a block or enough there's a runner where he can be this three way threat that you want from the running back position.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But Harvey shows that explosiveness that you want him out there on first down.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You want him out there on second down to provide uncertainty and questions for the defense.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And that means showing enough as a receiver to still be a receiving threat.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just what you want out of him.
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of that's still why I think that he does end up as the top back entering this season is because I mean, there's obviously past protections huge.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's running back past protection.
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just, that's third down more so than first and second.
31:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So can Harvey be that first and second down runner that you need that can bring those explosive elements to it because JK Dobbins isn't overly explosive.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: He isn't, you know, an efficient running back.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not that guy that you want in those situations.
31:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You want Harvey to be it in
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: by all accounts, a little McLaughlin, he's going to be in there for that aspect of it, too, because he's been looking really good.
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that it's been made clear.
31:36
[SPEAKER_00]: He's making the roster by giving been given, being given podium time, but just to expand on it, not just Harvey, but the running back room in general.
31:45
[SPEAKER_00]: How does Audrick asked to me look?
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Does the, you know, that every now and then he looks great in practice.
31:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He has that one great day in the rest are kind of,
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: as Blake Watson, it carry over the explosiveness that he's showing and pre in practices into the game.
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: What does Tyler, but they look like so there's a lot of questions this morning running back room and I'm going to throw in one thing.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to you.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to talk about it long because it's not Broncos related.
32:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to see up and stout.
32:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been killing it for the four and I just can't.
32:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of my guys from the draft.
32:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see how well he does.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to that.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Then one non Broncos thing I'm looking
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that there is a lot of hand-ringing for him being a third-round pick from the media.
32:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I made it like five, seven.
32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he's an outlier with the size, maybe five, eight.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah, Western Kentucky.
32:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Got to love, right?
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Western Kentucky.
32:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Hill Toppers.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably one of the best mascots in all sports.
32:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to them.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: They always have cool helmets and stuff.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And Western Kentucky's always a good time.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite to non-power programs, just because their offense is a
32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Very different than what I have to get to watch after watch with Iowa.
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to the hilltoppers out there.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Finally, Eric, as we start to wrap up the show here.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I am looking, so we talked about, do you want to, let's actually two more things.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Why'd receivers a little bit more?
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Your expectations with everything.
33:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that everybody's excited about Franklin.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in the game situation where things are a little bit more physical and I think it's not going to be as down the field oriented.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a Pat Bryant emergency.
33:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Franklin's had the splashy plays here and there.
33:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think when things get a little bit more tight, I think Pat Bryant is going to be the one who emerges and it sounds like he's been getting pepper with a lot of targets and been stepping up a bit.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He's always been when he didn't test well, but he's been a gamer.
33:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm expecting some of that gamer element, and the security blanket element that he brings to be the guy.
33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I feel like we're not getting very much Pat Bryant talk right now.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's the one who could emerge.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got his just a good chance to be white or silver to on this team as anybody.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Besides the comment from Quentin talk about Evan Ingraham, which Quentin good to see how we've been talking about Ingraham being de facto wide receiver to on here since
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: April, when they signed it, my guess is probably taking back to them.
34:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But just given his rule, but you're absolutely right, good point.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no Pat Bryant.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the rookie class, of course, longer, more control, more optimistic, more hope with those guys.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think with game situations, I'm hoping Brian all takes it even to another level.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's been some issues with him in practice.
34:21
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been having great moments, but there's been some pretty bad lows.
34:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that he had a pretty bad drop early on in camp.
34:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That was was an easy catch and he just kind of lost focus.
34:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He got talked to you by Sean Peyton about it.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: yet another one where he slipped and fell on a route another one where he lost a cleat on running his route out of his break so still some things to clean up and he's been cutting down on those lows a little bit over practice hasn't quite had as many highs as Franklin has so i'm excited to see that i'm excited to see what Franklin does in the game situation can he carry it all carries those shining moments into the game
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: What does Bailey look like?
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's started to come around a little bit the last few practices that was dealing with an injury.
35:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Seems to be healthy, so we're in a sleeve on the leg.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Can he, you know, can that carry over Marvin Membs?
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been getting a lot of hype looking well developed as a route runner now and seems to have been put in the work to improve there.
35:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that carry over to the games?
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it can be easy to show improvements in route running in practice.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It can be easy to show it in one on one.
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It can be easy to show it in, you know, just to walk through types of stuff that they do.
35:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Game situations you can fall back.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easier to fall back into old habits.
35:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easier to, you know, forget your teachings in the heat of the moment kind of aspect of it.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that carry over on drafted free agent.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it receivers carries Rowan.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been getting a lot of hype, but he's one of those guys that you hear him get hype and then you see him Sean Peyton pull them out of the side to talk to them.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the practices that he had a great cash then followed it up with a bad drop or Sean Peyton was talking to.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: had a great rep, then ran the wrong route and got had chon paid doctor.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Courtney Jackson, does he is able to emerge as a returner option and help push, you know, solve that second kick returner and push for seven receivers.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: The Davis do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This water sea room top to bottom is just so intriguing now, which it's nice to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we both had our very valid concerns about the room entering in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to be matching it, but this is a moment where they can really show out and not necessarily put those concerns to bed, but help us feel a little bit more at ease with where this water sea room is at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, again, it's one of those ones where it's like, they have so many three four or five sixes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we get a, like a real number two to emerge?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds gross.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, a low one A, if you will, somebody who is arguably in that top thirty right now, because it feels like right now Denver is really loaded with like guys who could probably be wide receiver, fifty to ninety in the league, which is like, again,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
36:55
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, we're talking about good problems here at the depth, but more of the sure thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to have opportunities, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe that's just my mind being warped around what it was like during the Peyton Manning years where Sean Peyton is much more of a
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[SPEAKER_02]: using different chess pieces, if you will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't necessarily have to have that every guy that's out there, every single rep, wide receiver to as long as you have the wide receiver running back, tight end, trio kind of going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So gonna be fascinating to watch again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've heard any buzz about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure following joint practice and preseason games, maybe we'll start to hear a little bit more, but it's just the math ain't math and right now with the number of wide receivers they have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and rather than straight up losing somebody, I'm hoping we can at least squeeze a little bit of value with a, uh, not shown in holiday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Trinity Benson Trinity Benson trade kind of thing.
37:47
[SPEAKER_02]: We got came in coming in says hi Broncos country is wondering if you guys heard anything about McMillan seems like he's having the most quiet camp.
37:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that's good or bad news sounds like he's been solid out there without a doubt.
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I know early indications we talked about this on the show Eric is that Baron had been a little bit better on the boundary getting more opportunities on the boundary, but
38:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I keep hearing from folks that I talk to and the media that I do follow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a lot, but the media that I do follow that Riley Moss has been unbelievable in camp this season and making play after play and like there's ones where the ball squeezes past them sometimes but he's in perfect position moving great better than last season as what I've been told as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, you obviously took a first shot pick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to put him in the best situation possible, but you want the best three out there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it seems like Moss
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[SPEAKER_02]: boundary barren slot is where it's now trending again, even though maybe there was a little bit there where it could have gone either way, but I'm fascinated and this is a perfect segue for my last one that I'm curious about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously it's your chance not playing so you get all of them, but what are the cornerbacks?
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[SPEAKER_02]: looking like here and how does that emerge?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are we going to get some McMillan safety snaps?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a few last season with McMillan play and safety in preseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So really curious to see the usage, will we get Moss in the slot?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Will we get McMillan out wide?
39:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Baron, where is he the best at?
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So the corner back room, how it revolves and rotates around Patrick Sertan, obviously the sun, fascinated to watch.
39:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we're going to see, well, I guess what I should say is why I'm interested to see is see is if the broncus with the corners go more fully almost fully match up based with the corners.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As in sometimes we will have bearing in the slot when they're facing a little bit of the smaller slots or and then you know, when we get, you know, facings that use those bigger slots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably moss in there and then barren on the outside against the Z. Part of the reason why we started off early with barren work in the outside is that they didn't want to throw everything onto his plate at once and have immediately start out working in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as he picked up the defense, lo and the Burbiage is working outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Moss and McMillan rotating in this slot, and then he's kind of picked it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's working in this slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Moss has been absolutely killing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Looks far improved from where he was at towards the end of last year, where even before the injury, he's looking better and improved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very curious to see this corner back room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's needed, Chris Avin's training's been killing it, McMillan.
40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: No news is good news, kind of situation.
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing well, hasn't been standing out with, you know, super bright moments, but he hasn't been standing up because he's getting beat consistently either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's just been, he's been very solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious to see this group, and I'm curious to see if the Broncos go almost fully match up based with how they utilize their top three corners and where they line up at.
40:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And we fascinating.
40:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I do have one final one.
40:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get going, but we want to say hello to Proud's annual good morning late to join, but I'll restart when it's over.
40:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Heck yeah, appreciate you being a member of the show.
40:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We got George Fox coming.
40:50
[SPEAKER_02]: George has been a love us for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good to see you, George says great pod today.
40:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, thanks.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we really appreciate that.
40:55
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41:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Season's right around the corner, so Eric and I are going to be here.
41:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously with my move, my schedule might be a little bit.
41:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Weird, but yeah, we'll see, but my final one, Eric, and probably one that I just
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to talk about because I don't have the expertise knowledge on it, but it is the special teams coverage units.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys are going to be playing the depth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're safety, depth, linebacker depth, tight end depth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What that all looks like in the special team's usage.
41:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the new Hunter as well.
41:35
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds good with Jeremy.
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Cross shots have been a little bit hit or miss.
41:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a little bit more consistent of late, but what does that look like in actual preseason games?
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping that he has a few boomers in these upcoming games and matchups and we have ourselves a guy.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's been some excitement from the Broncos coaches, but he's a rookie that they drafted early for that position.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they're going to say that what of the results actually look like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hope we don't see too much of it this season, but it's a part of the game and it can win you football games and lose your football games.
42:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So the coverage units, the depth, we're going to see those guys and the actual puncher himself in Krasha and prouds in the last word.
42:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I get the hat this one right here, put it on the Instagram mountains on it.
42:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was on
42:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Fanatics are somewhere.
42:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw it Instagram gave me said, Hey, you like the Broncos in the mountains.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also got the old school D logo on it.
42:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like the mesh because I get hot and when I move in.
42:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think it was there.
42:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I got it for Father's Day.
42:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So shout out to my wife.
42:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Love the hat.
42:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But punters matter.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Eric obviously being an Iowa fan.
42:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's something that it's a dark horse.
42:42
[SPEAKER_02]: line mine for the Broncos this season uh if that's week it could lose them some games if it's wrong could win them some games it's just that's how it is the third phase
42:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Krasha, he started off being able to boom punts.
42:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he had that one practice where he boomed three, like somebody plus your artist from his own backed up and his own end zone.
43:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But placement was a little bit rough.
43:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried some, you know, pinpoint accuracy type things, depending on the opponent's deep on the sideline.
43:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Started off a little bit strong or started off a little bit weak, and it looks improved.
43:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been putting the work in.
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But special teams as a unit, I'm glad you brought it up because how do you make a roster spot as a depth-free special teams?
43:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're the coverage units sending out as a returner somehow, some way you stand out on special teams.
43:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And Darren Rizzi as a guy who has always had a loud voice when it comes to the building the roster, because Sean Peyton, Sean Peyton sees the value and having great special teams units.
43:38
[SPEAKER_00]: The Broncos weren't bad by any means last year.
43:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They were inconsistent, but they were still, you know, about middle of the pack at the least.
43:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't good enough and Sean Peyton brought about drastic changes to the unit to the room with the coaching change and very and focusing in on bringing in guys, Trent Surefield Sam Franklin who's been looking good on defense as well who we didn't talk about safety as much.
44:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also a special team's ace.
44:02
[SPEAKER_00]: So they brought those guys in to improve it.
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Who steps up?
44:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's some of these other positions.
44:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Just level Bailey step up on special teams as well.
44:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year he was a little bit rough and he did see a lot of action on special teams.
44:14
[SPEAKER_00]: May applicants was one of the key special teams players.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: PJ Locke, Justin Sonod, they have a lot of good special teams players.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What spots are available still even on special teams who steps up for those?
44:27
[SPEAKER_00]: How do those guys who are great special teamers?
44:29
[SPEAKER_00]: How do they you know fit in with the roster math like there is just a lot of questions for for building this roster in general and special teams again.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's how you answer those questions
44:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna find out.
44:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time for me to go because I got the the wife.
44:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So we did go forty five minutes still.
44:47
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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
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44:50
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44:52
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47:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the big thing we're looking for here?
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