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Ep61 The Big College Football Explosion And Our New Studio · Sports Allegedly

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Man coming to you live from not an old woman's house on a hill,
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but Kenny's base where I beat him in fantasy football. And poor Creston's getting
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cut out of the screen right now, we'll get that fixed. Welcome to
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our new studio. It's Sports Allegedly. Well come, welcome, Welcome everybody.
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Thank you for joining us for this episode of Sports Allegedly on this November
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twenty seventh, twenty twenty three. I got sewn to my right, Creston
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to my left. That's a change up right there. Life. It's real
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tight together. So thanks everyone for joining us this week for our pod.
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We apologize obviously for being so late started. We had some kinks to work
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out on the new studio, but we are in. We're obviously not set
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up. Everything is not ready, but we are at least got a good
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start. So thanks for joining us tonight during what is become a awesome Monday
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night football game. Just leave that to me. I mean, generally I
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would say leave that on the screen and listen to us, but now you
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can leave us both on the screen and listen to us. So anyway,
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uh, let's start with uh, let's start with the OSU. I mean,
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let's give them. Yeah, I mean, you guys, let come
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on, you gotta give a little clap. No. I know you're just
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so anti Gundy and the Cowboys. Shut up, Craig. But I have,
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but I have, and like I have said continuously, the Oklahoma State
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Cowboys for a team that in the last year of the the I would say,
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the biggest, big twelve. You got the two powerhouses in Texas and
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know you leaving. But then you also had an addition this year of the
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four extra teams that are coming in to fill that. I thought that uh
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osu. I was impressed. I mean, obviously, you look early in
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the season, playing a lot of three quarterbacks, which was obviously silly.
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They should have made that decision and that and that does fall in Gundy's part.
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I don't I don't disagree with that, but I think what they finally
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decided to do, it looks like as they went, hey, we're gonna
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run the ball. We're not gonna run this RPO option. We're gonna actually
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run plays. Set the guy up Oli Gordon is probably not gonna get invited
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to the Heisman, but he's on the fringe. He was on the fringe
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of getting there. I think the last few games have really heard him.
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Well, not the last one because sixty six yards, but in that game.
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But yo, if they beat BYU. B YU played a hell of
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a game against OU last week. They come out this week, they start
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halftime, it was twenty four to six. Oh you fans, we're all
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giddy. Think if we're gonna go the Big twelve Championship to to uh.
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But here's my deal. I think we would have went to the Big twelve
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Championship. What is the deal with the fucking coaches doing the whole deal,
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going out and have with a game plan, getting a lead, and then
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changing everything about their defensive scheme, their offense. They change everything into this
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prevented slow down. Let's just burn the clock. We got the lead and
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they lo. Now you're referring to by you you're huh, I'm trying to
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go to this. I'm referring to BYU. In the second half. Yes,
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I don't think b YU scored any points except the three in the fourth
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quarter. Yeah, yeah, they to get they went up so big and
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then just well, first of all, on defense in the second half,
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they were only rushing three a three man front rush, and in the first
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two quarters, they were rushing four sometimes five, and they just changed.
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It's like, oh, we got the lead, let's drop people back in
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the coverage and they was soft covered. I don't get it. It was
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interesting to see it to rush a three man front against one of the best
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running backs in the nation, and then you turn around and you give Bowman
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who when you get him on a scramble, you get him scrambling. He's
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not near and most quarterbacks aren't. I mean, I'm not saying that,
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but but he's horrible when he's pressured. When he's under pressure, he's got
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concrete shoes. Didn't even he didn't even throw a touchdown, No he didn't.
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He threw two picks, but he did. I mean, but you
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should have saw him. In the second half, the passes were night and
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day compared to the first half because the b yu went soft. And then
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I thought their offense just went to them. Yeah, I don't know whatever
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that offense. They look like they could not move the ball at all.
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And the first half you're moving up and down the field. The second half
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you got lucky to even go into overtime. Their whole scheme changed. Everything
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changed. In the first half. They would run, run, run,
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run, and then they would hit a big path. Take your foot off
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the gas just just because you could watch you could watch the defense when they
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run, run, run, they would move people up. Yeah, well
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I've said it before, but they would move they would move more people up
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in the box to stop the run because b y Weu would run run run
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the first half, and then they would hit a big pass play when when
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the when they saw that happen, and they'd move poor people in the box.
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Then they would throw it downfield and they had two or three people for
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more people. Sorry, okay, well I didn't say it, Sean started.
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I heard it, but now no, you're exactly right. That's exactly
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what they did. They played to lose in the second half. That's exactly
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what they were doing, and and their defense became more don't let them get
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past us, you know, five to seven yards every time in the second
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half. Yeah, no, exactly, I mean, and that's what we're
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setting there watching this going what are you doing with the majority of Olli Gordon's
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yards in the second half. Was OSU had every changed their whole they they
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had every mistake possible that o SU did make a lot of mistakes as far
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as the first half and then the second half they turned Hey, but they
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give them credit there. They're they're back in the Big twelve. You know
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what, they got a bonus Big Twelve Championship. I think the last one
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was what two years ago, they played slaughter. They're gonna get slaughtered.
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It's gonna they shouldn't They should have won that game. Yes, they should
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have. And then the coach that Gandhi coached against kept his job somehow.
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We'll get into that later. The coaching changes. We'll get into coaching changes
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and and and the College final four our predictions. We talked about it last
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week. We've got some more insight this week, and obviously coaching changes of
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offensive coordinator changes with Levee going. But anyway, let's get back to the
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OU game. Uh TCU. You know it was one of those games that
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the finally the the the Yeah. We'll talk about the Big Twelve Championship in
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a minute, because I want to talk a little bit about Texas and and
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my feelings on that as we segue into into the we give a horns down?
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Is that how you do that? But I'm I'm sorry before you get
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that let's move it there. Let's go. Let's talk a little bit about
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OU. As we know now, Jeff Levy's last game is offensive coordinator bro
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you lights TCU up obviously, you know, and it was one of those
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games that you're watching. You know, they scored sixty nine points against TCU.
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But also so you know, the defense kind of kind of took a
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step back. I thought in that game. Now that could have been because
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the offense scoring fast. I don't know, I just thought I thought it
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was passing. I told you that our secondary all season has They've held up
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when they needed to. They've held up when they needed to, but they've
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also given up the credit for the turn, given up the middle. They've
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given up the middle. They've given up the middle. Yeah, and give
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give up Some of that's not just them though, it's not just secondary.
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I mean some of that's linebacker and some of that scheme. They are included
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in the secondary whenever, whenever you're involved in the past game when you huh,
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the linebackers are also are not no, no, no, they are
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but okay, well, no, I agree with that, but I'm going
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to include them because I thought a lot of that was their uh, you
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know, missteps as far as the middle of the field. A lot of
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the plays they give up in the middle. So yeah, also please so
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sixty nine forty five defense did give up. Defense did give up twenty nine
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points. I thought the first half they played really well and then and so
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Mike Uarter. My concern for OU though is I thought since the Texas game,
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overall the defense had good plays at times. But I thought, I
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mean, I thought players made good plays. I thought overall, I thought
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some of the games are just very odd. I don't two games three games
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hurt. The Kansas game definitely, I think that was a big win.
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And then he came back in that. He was out before that, then
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came back. He didn't play anything in the second half. No, no,
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no, he got hurt in the Kansas game and went out. I
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thought he had gotten hurt in another game before that, but he might have.
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But he played the first half the kids, Yeah, I know,
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he played the first and then that's what aggravated the and then played one play
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and in the second half, and that was it. So that made it
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big and the and the weather, but hey, other and Kenny being there
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for OU versus going six and six last year in regular season. Obviously,
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don't make the Big twelve. That's a championship end up ended up playing a
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team that is now gonna go to the Final four, potentially potentially go to
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the Final four. No, no, I picked it's God, they're going
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to the final potentially go to the final four. Now, would have said
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that without Jordan Travis getting hurt earlier in the game. Yeah, I'm a
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little leader. Now I'm concerned that running Buck went out to Hu run Buck
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didn't finish that game. We'll talk about that, so anything, Uh,
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I mean, we'll talk. Let's talk about before we're getting We'll mention all
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the coaching with you, because that's big talk right now. So we're gonna
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save No. I wanted to pull you. You talk about DeMarco Murray not
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being a good running back coach. I never said that, but it has
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been brought up. I said, okay, and you know Gavin Sawchuk hundred
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and thirty yards. Well, I think we've been all screaming saw Chuck the
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whole time. I think it's I think the last three or four games he's
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had a just for Craig for Rooke, did have a have one run for
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six Ynths. You're not gonna have to deal with that anymore, I know,
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but we don't know what we're gonna have to deal with. We got
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to see who we get hired first. I have my predicted. Okay,
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Drake Stoops is graduating. He's gonna go to the NFL. It's gonna be
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a big loss. It will be a huge loss for us. And I
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thought, you know, we talked about this when he Stalker should be going
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to I'm not gonna miss him anyway, I'm not. I'm kind of like
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him. I think any of your beer nuts Yeah, no, no,
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I agree that the the Drake Stoops. We talked about it at the game
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or last year when he announced he was coming back. How huge that was
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gonna be to have. I mean we always called him a safe yeah,
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and he's stuff now, Gabriel, I want to talk a little bit about
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him, because you guys have talked about numbers as far as it goes for
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because next to it. But I wanted I wanted to give a little bit
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of clarity what I saw. Uh someone had posted that and it makes sense.
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I wanted to talk a little bit about Uh. Caleb Williams sixty eight
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percent passing three hundred three thousand, three hundred and sixty three yards, thirty
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touchdowns, five interceptions, passer rating but one seventy fifteen, which is really
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good. Good numbers Dalan Gabers, especially as much as he was sacked.
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Dylan gabral was sixty nine percent passing, had about a little three hundred yards
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more, thirty had one more interception as passer rating was one seventy one ninety
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eight. So listen, when you talk about right now, as we talk
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about the portal people, you know, the grass isn't always greener on the
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other side, and that's something that those people need to need to learn when
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these kids are talking about when we're talking about portals. He was small,
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no, and you look at who who was it that let Mario Williams his
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numbers from oh you were when he went to UH to USC. Well,
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you got to remember that first two. And Jordan Adison came in that took
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away a lot of his looks, and he was just he was always what
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he became a wide receiver number three at that point, number two, and
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he was just a he was just a safety nut. Checkdowns like Drake Stoops
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and uh Addison left and we saw where that team went. I mean,
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I don't know who they lost some other guys, but you know, hey,
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your whole team's built off the transfer port transfer portal. What what does
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that tell you about Snaky Riley's uh transfer portal ability? Well, it's going
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to be interesting. I'm ready to see. Because recruiting at OU before the
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portal, I thought he was ship Well then that's why he just took the
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portal. Like I understand a lot of guys, I understand, That's what
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I'm saying. I wanted to see what he does. I mean, is
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he going to be the portal guy that just just robs the portal of everything
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that he can, which which is fine now that it's legal. But he
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he never recruited it, O you. I've said that from the beginning offense.
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I mean, he had some good offensive recruits, his best friends,
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but he did high But he did recruit they were all five stars guys.
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I mean, he had some good and if anybody wants to know, this
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is just our f you to Colin Counter, Yeah, I think he's because
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the way that he talks about, oh you, we're gonna do this to
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him. It's not about us it's about Colin call hold on. Now I
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have to give I'm gonna give credit a little bit to Colin Colt is that
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he has he has no hold on, wrong hold no hold on. He
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has gotten in Riley's ass a little bit. I mean he's made He's come
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around and said, hey, what are we doing. He's not been the
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old rainbows and roses at the end of the year. He's changed his tune.
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So give him about usc yes, give him a little credit, but
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everything a little bit. I'm saying time just listened. I listened to him
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today. He's a dumb ass. Right, let's move on to you know,
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you did finish a regular season with a Big twelve championship. Oh you
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did hold on the ball ten and a half? Ten and a half?
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All right, Texas moving on to the Big twelve Championship. Texas Longhorns play
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the Oshu Cowboys. I don't think I was going to say, is you
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know, oh, you did finish in the top ten of offense with what
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did I say? Five? Well, just give me the top ten?
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And what did I say? The defense was eighty? Oh yeah, we're
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about eighty. Yes, And I remember you saying at the beginning of the
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year, we were the top ten defense. Never did I say that,
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dude, I said top fifty. No, it was can you go back
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to episodes and no, that was at Cards. He said we were in
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the top ten on defense. We're going to that's defensive efficiency for that's a
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that's a ranking that ESPN does, and that was a defensive rate defensive efficiency
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ranking. Now overall, I think we come in about I think you were
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right about. Yeah, yeah, moving on the Big twelve championship number twenty
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Oaklama State Cowboys, and that's gonna change tomorrow. It'll be interested to see
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what rankings, but it doesn't matter. Ninety three seven and two in conference.
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Here's the Texas you played b YU, blow them out. Your next
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three games are all close Kansas State tc U, I s U. There
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should have been the games that you would have lost to not make it to
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the title. And then you go to Texas Tech and slaughter Texas Tech.
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So you know they're lucky to be there. And is uh, what'd say
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lucky? I watched Texas play all year. They're doing the same thing that
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OU has done for years. They played just good enough to know they played
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just good enough to win, and then you get against a team that is
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equally matched, like they did with Ou, and they wind up losing their
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ass at the end of the game. Something happens. Yeah, I mean,
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okay, So Texas Texas League. Texas generally in the past the both
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second half teams. That's the problem coming into this. Texas teams are second
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half teams. Texas generally in the past has lost to those teams. Generally
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it's Kansas or Iowa State that they shouldn't have. I'm telling you, guys,
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though, this Texas team's the most talented team since I've seen since probably
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Mac was there. I said team, I said player. Team. But
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since mid I got a question, So is Quinn you were starting? Yeah?
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As far as Xavier Worthy coming back like to play this game or zero?
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He was he played in the last game. Brooks is completely out correct.
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I don't know who their backup running back is, uh Baxter, c
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J Baxter, I think, isn't he thinks? And and you know it
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looked like blue and actually blue first game. I don't know. I didn't
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watch them. I didn't watch them. I didn't either because there were so
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many better games on Damn the Blue kid did run. Yeah, Jade and
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Blue. I wonder if that's but he had he had one sixty nine.
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He did have one sixty Craig, how do you feel about your your arch
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manning boy? He looked scared. The spread was yeah, I think it'll
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be more than that. I think I think like fifty eight to twelve.
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That's this is what I this is what I hate twelve hosts. They are
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both second half teams. They are both like, we're gonna have just a
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garbage first half game of what ten to six points? Yeah, but let's
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not judge Texas Tech. I mean that game the guy had eighty I'm three
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turnover. I'm just jing both Texas and Oklahoma State as how they played throughout
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the season, they both have been second half teams. Like once halftime,
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that's when all the adjustments are made. Coach Ceiling and coach Tupac and that's
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uh, that's that's what's happening. So what's gonna happen in this game when
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they're both second half teams? Are we gonna go from are we gonna go
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from a ten to six game? Are gonna go from? Are we gonna
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go for ten to twelve? Ten? To six games all the way up
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to a forty five forty three game. I wouldn't be surprised if some of
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the bench players aren't playing the four over there. You do not, I'm
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telling you right now. Texas I think is gonna just start at the beginning,
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come out and get the lead and just just I really they'll cover the
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spread oh by halftime. Yeah, and they'll never look back. I agree
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with that. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna find out what that is.
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This This vine is fourteen and a half, but I think it started higher.
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But yeah, drop so there was some issue money on that Oregon was
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notn but but I don't really think that that that's gonna matter. So anyway,
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that down to seven and a half. That's Saturday, Washington. That's
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Saturday, eleven am. That's Saturday. That's Saturday Washington. All right,
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let's move on anything else you want to talk about that game. I think
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I think Texas defense, their line play is so much better than issues on
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both sides, and I think that's what's going to dominate. Yeah, but
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the good thing having the savior worthy back Ollie Gordon is going to have to
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be bottled up and Texas has not been a big, big run stopper.
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Yeah they are, They're like top ten. Didn't we didn't. We have
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a lot of rushing rounds on. No, we haven't ran the ball all
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year until recently. Recently we have last two games three games. We actually
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ran the ball pretty well against Kansas, just ran it the wrong times against
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him. So at the end of the time, at the end of the
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game where we were needing to go down and score to go ahead and win,
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we could run on them because they were playing prevent and they were all
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dropp d. Okay, yeah, possibility. Yeah, but no, I
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mean Texas actually is one of the best run stoppers in the nation. I
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think sure, because that's where we run all over. No, we didn't
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run anywhere and then we passed. Is gonna have OLLI Gordon is gonna have
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a big Is he graduating this year? Is he coming home? He's a
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red shirt sophomore. Yeah, Now that don't mean he's coming back. Yeah,
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that was a Richard sophore. I mean transfer portal Neil. Oh,
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No, I think he's I think he's all in with coach seeing Uh no
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money talk bullshit walk. I'm telling you right now, money'll get to that,
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we'll get money talk, We'll get to get your hand out of old
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man Sasquatch. That is my that is my line. I would give him
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fifty to fifty. I mean I really will. It depends on how much
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someone offers him. I'm sorry people are they go where the money is.
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Well, if you've looked, it's not greedy. It's trying to make your
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life better. If someone saying, hey, you get a Lamborghini, this
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chick and this out, your parents get this out, guess what you're going.
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Craig, I have a question. Would you leave Chelsea for just a
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Lamborghini? That's it? He would No, I agree with that. I
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don't know if he's if he's so committed, I think there was some weirdness
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at the beginning of year. He didn't get to play much, so I
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don't really know. Yeah, but but that's Gandhi's He's He has been like
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that his whole career. He like he like picks and chooses who he likes
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and plays them until he gets a loss or two and he's like, well,
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ship, I guess I'm gonna play my better players. He does that
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every year. You watch if he is story. I don't know if it's
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even better. It's just it's the one. I don't know, I'm not
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it's the one that it's better because you're right, you have you've seen so
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many backups play better than the starters Duringy's regime. Yes, you know,
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it's like he's loyal to the string. Do you remember that. Yeah,
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that's what I'm saying. It's been his whole career. It's like guy said,
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Texas number four in the nation. This guy pats What was that Sean
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Craig just said Texas number four the nation. Yeah, so they've got a
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poorest Uh, your statement was correct. No, but I don't think they're
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that porous on secondary either. The hell did we score beat the Sooner magic
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baby? Yeah? Only fears God, that's right. No, and uh
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I I uh, let's move on to the other championship games. Friday,
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You've gotten Mexican State playing Liberty. Nobody cares about really, you know,
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thirteen a half points spread for Liberty. I have to give and take New
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Mexico State that game. Yes, yes, Jerry and I tweeted about this
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the other day. Jerry Kill that's a Hugh Freeze team. Remember Hugh Freeze
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had built that team before he left Liberty, so that's still part of his
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team. Well and then Chadwells now the coach who left Coastal Carolina and and
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so far he hasn't got any sniff of the head coaching, which I was
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a little surprised about that. I thought he would get picked up. Now,
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obviously Houston's open. Who else is a big program that's open right now?
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That that really hasn't. Houston's about the only one I can think of
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unless I'm missing somebody big that's a big program. Is there a Power five
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job open right now? We haven't talked about Duke. Okay, that could
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be. That could be a possible. I didn't think about Duke, but
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I wouldn't. That job is hard job. How was Duke harder than than
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than Texas A and M Texas A and M we'll talk. We bought a
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coaching because they had a lot of penis. We just want to talk about
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coaching the Mexico State Liberty. That's gonna be Friday at six. And then
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Oregon, Oregon and Washington. Who do you have in New Mexican? We're
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not taking that game in our picks. Who'd taking that Liberty New Mexico State
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game. I think Jerry kill is one of the most under rated coaches in
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the nation. Really, no, no, are you talking straight up or
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to cover straight up? Just straight up Liberty probably him, but Mexico State
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all day. I mean they got lived by ten. But thirteen and a
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half problem, that's another thing. It is in Virginia, so that's gonna
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be. That's gonna be. I still at thirteen and a half. I
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would take New Mexico State Oregon Washington. That is the big I mean,
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that's you know, I don't give a ship about you know, this is
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the big New Heisman possibilities. It's the biggest conference chances in the game.
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It is it really, there's no doubt Oregon wins or beat him the first
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time. It was coaching the first time that cost him. Oregon wins.
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They're in. Does that not Washington out, Yes, yes, yes,
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that's where Florida will talk because it was a three point it was a three
25:55
point loss the first time. It was and goals and they down twice and
26:02
one of them was in the first half and it was like six yards.
26:06
Remember they're playing in the raiderdomes, so there's no elements. The bad one
26:08
was on their side of the field. That was later in the game.
26:11
I thought the first half or second half, the first was a long one
26:15
though it was at odd Yes, I would I would have agreed, disagreed
26:21
with going for that one. So but hey, listen to line for Organ
26:23
nine and a half. Well, that's what that says. What do you
26:26
have seven and a half Vegas in So it's already dropped a little bit.
26:30
So seven and a halfs okay. So Washington, you know, obviously,
26:34
obviously bow Nick No, no, I'm just saying ESPN goos my Caesar.
26:37
Okay, bow Nicks. Obviously, the statistically is better than Pennis. He's
26:42
looked better, interceptions were lower. Well, you played for eight years.
26:45
I'm not sure that Organ may not be the best team in the nation.
26:49
Do you think I haven't been seen? Huh? Do you think that defense
26:52
improved since that Washington game? Yeah, what I've seen, I'm not so
26:57
sure Organ is not the best team. Man. I think Washington. You
27:00
know, Pinnis gets a lot of credit, but the wide receivers for Washington
27:04
are very rated. I mean, they always talk about Penis, they always
27:08
talk about pins, but the the the andosy guy. I mean that guy
27:12
is always This is the argument that we had when Kenny Pickett was was at
27:19
at pitt Was it Addison or him? And it's looking like it. Well,
27:26
then Addison left and then you know Pickett. You know they went to
27:37
the draft. Yes, but yes, that's what that's what was it Addison
27:42
or was it Piggy? You're high on Oregon? I'm not as high.
27:45
I like their offensive line, I like bow Knicks. I like the receivers
27:52
for the most part. I mean bo Nick's. The thing about him is
27:53
he makes really good decisions, doesn't run around a lot. He's more of
27:56
a pocket passer, and he's a tough, big guy. I'm not sold
28:00
that that Washington can't beat them again, I really not. Now you've got
28:04
you've gotatistically Nicks is better than Pennis, that they have better statistics, and
28:11
he's got better statistics, no doubt. I'm just telling you. It was
28:15
coaching the cost in the game the first time, I swear, And that's
28:18
very quite part. Where was the game at? Was that at Washington?
28:22
I think it was? It was it, Yes, I can't remember,
28:23
I think it was it was. It was Washington. So and then obviously
28:29
their last five Oregon has looked better. Washington has not. Oh no,
28:33
no, Washington's defense has struggled in those games, and possibly the offense.
28:37
I only got like snippets of watching those. No, I mean both teams
28:41
have. Both teams have win a different trajectory. It really reminds me of
28:45
what Texas and oh you a little bit went since they played. Texas has
28:48
gotten better. I mean they did play a lot of close games. Oh
28:52
you either blew them out or we had problems on the road. Texas won
28:56
a tough road game at Iowa State. Reminds me a little bit about this
29:00
game. Os U's trajectory. Organ's trajectory is better. Washington struggled. I
29:03
mean they only beat Washington State, which is a rival. I understand that
29:07
only been by three. But Oregons beat their rival thirty one to seven.
29:11
Now, I believe that had a little bit to do about their coach leaving
29:15
won the Civil War. Yeah, but I mean they play he bolted,
29:18
he bolted to take Michigan State. But they have. But you said that
29:25
because the instability of the PAC twelve an impact, and it was good.
29:29
I mean, I think that's a good hire for Michigan State. I mean,
29:32
I don't know of anybody better. Uh. Oh God, we're gonna
29:34
have another Penn State Uh Franklin where uh everything looks so good. I thought
29:41
that was one of the best hires was Michigan State. I thought that.
29:45
I thought the Oregon State coach, I thought that was it fit. I
29:48
thought that was a good fit fit. Uh. And it was tough,
29:51
I'm sure for him because he's a he's an Oregon State alumni, you know,
29:53
and built that program over the last two years into something that it's hard
29:57
to win in Corvellis. I mean, Mike, he did the same thing.
30:00
Try to take the Nebraska job, feeled horribly. It's gonna be interested
30:03
to see the same type coach front, you know, it's moving into the
30:08
Big Ten. We'll see how who was Nebraska coach? But but here my
30:14
only deal about the Pac twelves we wrap this up. I think the I
30:17
mean, you've got the ESPN projector at seventy five percent or Washington won this
30:22
game in the beginning, and I just find this funny that the spread is
30:26
so big and that the percent is that's that's that's what, that's what missing
30:30
Something here spread. You just think Organ is that just that much better.
30:36
I think Orgon I just said, I think Orgon might be the best team
30:40
in the nation. I think it's Organ's dominance versus Washington's barely pulling out too
30:49
many close games. It could be many close games, it can be all
30:52
right, I've got, I've got I'm gonna take Washington in this game on
30:56
the spread, not straight up. If it's nine and a half, no
30:59
seven, and we'll find out tuesday. Yeah, I'm still leaning Washington a
31:06
little bit. Anyway, we all that both agree that they go into all
31:11
the both agree, we all both, we all both, we all well,
31:14
Creston, I don't know if you're left, we have to be.
31:15
So we all three agree that the winner of this game is for sure going
31:21
in Yeah, going, Okay, I'm gonna give you a little scenario here
31:23
in a minute that that might not happen, but we'll talk about that.
31:27
Right, move move, moving on. You're gonna pull Alabama and moving on
31:32
a little scenario. You can't put moving on to next championship. Whatever Sean
31:38
gets moving on waiting can put Alabama above Texas. Let's talk about the big
31:44
time. But you can all of a sudden drop Oklahoma below Texas when they
31:48
lose one game. Is this the guy that still said they had a bad
31:52
run defense. Okay, anyway, let's not saying that's what happened when you
31:56
lost. Is there anything to talk about the Big ten champs? Okay,
31:59
so we already talked about Texas. We got Miami of Ohio and Toledo.
32:04
No, we won't even talk about what was what championship? Was that the
32:07
Miami of Ohio and mac Toledo. Toledo, Yeah, their favorite or nine?
32:15
Yes, RedHawks? You got Boise State and UNLV. Interesting, fire
32:21
your coach even though you make the title game for I know, well that's
32:27
I think that's the higher too. I think they're gonna go break the back.
32:30
But now you know v most wins since nineteen eighty four. Barry Odom
32:36
left Arkansas defensive coordinator and they obviously have struggled at Arkansas. He's back to
32:42
coaching UNLV. Like I said, some most wins they've had since ninety four.
32:45
Brennan Marion, the offensive coordinator that we talked about last week. I
32:49
think he and then I saw it all over Twitter, and yeah he is.
32:54
I said it last week. He is a secret dark horse candidate to
32:59
be ou Or. I didn't say at that time, but I said,
33:01
if Levy did leave, look at him. Tulsa wide receiver Texas guy from
33:07
Texas coached at Texas wide receivers calling plays, and I watched a couple of
33:10
those late night games, one of them when he was up one of them
33:14
they had to get there to take the lead. The one that was he
33:16
was up on at the end of the game last Quarn impressed me. It
33:21
was impressed me the most because he's a throw, go go guy. But
33:27
when they were up needed to run a little clock. They ran the ball,
33:30
They waited for the time to roll down. They still threw the ball,
33:34
though it wasn't like it's three runs and done. I thought his play
33:37
calling was pretty good. I think he'd be a hell of a recruiter.
33:40
Now I'm not saying we'll get into coaching little bit. I'm not saying he
33:44
should be the choice. But if ou goes outside, I think he's the
33:46
only one that fish that should look at that that makes the most sense.
33:50
We're not gonna get We're not gonna get grubs. Well, no, I
33:53
mean there's a possibility that he could take the Houston job straight up as a
33:57
head coach when that job came open. That would concerned me because I was
34:00
like and UTEP two. But hey, listen, Brendan, if you're listening
34:02
to this or anybody you know from Tulsa, don't take the UTEP job.
34:07
You're more talented than that. It's a coach killer. Do not take it.
34:10
It's a bad job if you don't get any I mean, you've got
34:14
all kinds of offers, you can make more money, and you have a
34:16
chance to get a bigger job in the future. So that's my prediction on
34:22
that. I like UNLV in the in the game though. I think their
34:23
defense plays good and I think, yeah, it's hard to have points spread
34:28
in Boise's favor I like, and I would almost take them straight I think
34:32
the spread line, I think they just kind of whiffed against. I think
34:36
it was San Diego State the last or San Jose State maybe. Yeah,
34:38
And it's one of those games kind of like Louisville lost to Kentucky. It's
34:43
a rivalry, but you're already in the championship. I mean, you're talking
34:47
about young adults. I mean they're they're thinking they're thinking next Yeah, they're
34:52
thinking next week. All right, moving on, what's the next one?
34:54
SMU two lane six six point favorite Tulane and I had made a prediction that
35:00
I thought that Jeff Trailer from UTSA was going to be the coach at at
35:07
A and M and he didn't get the job, but he's got a good
35:09
future. But I thought Tulane really played much better than I thought against them.
35:14
I mean they pretty much dominated that game. Hey, just relaxed focus.
35:22
I can't when everything's going dumb and so so I thought that was a
35:24
good game by Tulane. I thought that it was impressive that they beat Texas
35:30
or Texas San Antonio. Yeah, who was also in running for for playing
35:38
in the title game. That's correct, well, and if they were,
35:42
if they would have beat Tulane, they would be playing s MU had a
35:45
softy and that's what got I don't remember who it was, but they had
35:47
to they had to beat Now the last game for Memphis was before that,
35:53
so they beat them. So I like Tulane, and that's going to be
35:59
the second the gonna be this. I want to take Tulane, but I
36:01
think assume you is gonna sneak up on them. I think that. I
36:06
think that now s Mu's offensive. Quarner his name escapes me at the moment.
36:09
He's been mentioned for some jobs too. But hey, listen, let's
36:13
let's back it off a little bit. We're talking about AAC. I don't
36:16
I think TWU Lane wins and that's gonna be the second time. You know,
36:21
they played USC last year. They're gonna be They're gonna be that non
36:24
power five team that goes in again because they're gonna be the highest. No.
36:30
Uh, somebody's uh ranked seventeen, don't they on a non power five.
36:36
I thought Tulane was gonna be it. I can pull it up.
36:39
Are you got celeberty, liberty? There is a swear to here. I
36:45
got it right here. The rankings swims and non power Yeah, who do
36:49
you have? Give Tulane? That's who I have. I'm going down through
36:54
them. Give me a second. Well, seven minutes left, Tu Lane
36:58
is seventeen. You know name, Louisville, Arizona, LSU. Everything above
37:02
them is power five. Yeah, it's so this isn't updated because well,
37:07
he might be looking at a different pole too. I'm just looking to the
37:12
people, is what I'm looking at. And that's yeah, that's the new
37:15
A people update for Minnesota Chicago tonight Chicago Chicago. Like the looks like Minnesota's
37:24
driving. It's gonna be first down and ten around the fifteenth, seventeen yard
37:30
lie seventeen. All they needs a touchdown to win and take the lead.
37:34
So all right, no, they need to cover three and a half points.
37:37
Oh that's probably not gonna Sorry. So next year is Georgia Alabama,
37:42
and it's a four and a half point spread in favor of Georgia. I
37:45
wonder, I wonder if how much last game Alabama Hell Mary against Auburn the
37:51
grave Digger, wonder how much that moved that a little bit? Can we
37:54
talk about that game a little bit, because because you have a refront with
38:00
a spy, so you have well the spy was playing back a little bit.
38:09
But what I'm saying is is you have eight people back in the end
38:14
zone. Sorrybody can't ask the message. You have eight people back in the
38:17
end zone and you get a ball thrown to one on one coverage. How
38:24
do you have eight players back and find one on one in the end zone.
38:28
That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever seen in my life.
38:31
You don't see that very often. I mean, you just don't. You
38:34
don't see hail Mary's work. I know. But he found the only one
38:38
on I mean, everybody's bunched up over here. One receiver goes to the
38:42
other corner and one defender follows him. You had them outmatched. Why the
38:47
fuck is he finding the one on one coverage that is Auburn. Sorry,
38:52
I'm sorry. I don't know whether it's playing, coaching, whatever, but
38:57
it comes back to coaching in the end. You have to tell your players.
39:01
Now, we blame a lot on coaching, though, I mean,
39:04
you gotta you tell those kids, but they still got to perform. I
39:07
mean, he thought possibly that that guy was too far behind him, or
39:09
I mean, it could have been anything. But you're right. It was
39:12
a play that should have never happened. And you back those guys up.
39:15
Now, give credit to Milroe. Give credit to Milroe to throw that ball
39:21
in the corner rather than just throwing it in the middle, you know where,
39:24
just for a jump ball. But but what I'm saying is is you
39:29
have these kids at practices. You see them every fucking day, working with
39:34
them, going over plays, going over everything, and how do you not
39:37
have them coach good enough that you let them get a one. You have
39:42
eight fucking guys back more than they have receivers and you get a one on
39:45
one. That that I'm sorry, Auburn, well, I mean, I
39:52
mean that was stupid. They got even wins anyway, I mean on paper,
39:55
they should have been in the game. Look at that, sir,
40:00
you still and they shouldn't have been in the game anyway. I agree with
40:02
that. I agree, but but but it is a rivalry game. Well
40:07
they always that's always tougher on the right. But I'm saying you have more
40:12
defenders back than they have receivers going down the field and you find a one
40:17
on one. I mean that should have never happened. And and I don't
40:22
care whether you say it's players or whatever. That comes down to coaching.
40:27
Well, you know when you coach a player. So what I'm saying is
40:29
this is not every time a coach can coach a player. But except the
40:32
player still has to perform, it's it's it's almost a I mean, is
40:37
it. I mean, I would think it's probably more of a seventy to
40:40
thirty player versus coach when it comes down to that, I mean, you
40:44
can coach all you want, but if they don't perform, you know,
40:46
But yeah, I mean, well, then why does it matter who we're
40:50
hiring for a coach. Well, I think it matters a lot because of
40:52
recruiting, getting the right players, the right talent, that type of steff
40:55
coaching on the field. You got a lot of assistants play a part in
40:58
that too. It's not just one guy. I mean, you gotta haven't
41:00
even say no, no, no, But I'm saying coaching, but I'm
41:04
saying overall, and I don't know, it could have been coaching. But
41:07
I thought that that. I thought it was just a bad play by the
41:08
player, I really did. I thought he let the guy get behind him
41:10
too far. But why is he the only one covering when they have when
41:15
they have nine guys back and there's seven receivers, and I think generally you
41:21
see most of them go right in the middle, for hell, mary,
41:23
or right to the globe of people, and this guy through what was it
41:28
thirty twenty, I don't remember the yard from the back of the end zone
41:34
pass and uh, and then you have a fear of getting a penalty,
41:37
and you know, I think the hardest position right now to play in football
41:39
besides quarterback, because that's always going to be the most scrutinized is a defensive
41:45
back. I mean, because it's like, you can't touch these son of
41:47
a bitches or you're getting a flag, and that's mental. I mean,
41:51
you're worrying about that. Obviously, you can't grab onto their sleeves and stuff.
41:53
But some of the best, I mean, that's what you've got to
41:55
do when you look at those best. About that yesterday's hands, but don't
42:01
grab hands. But don't grab hands. But don't grab If you get beat
42:05
well, then you might grab them men to save a touchdown, but when
42:07
you're one on one, don't be grabbing. Then when the balls right there,
42:10
when you've got a shot at it, you know, don't worry about
42:13
that. But you know their players and I didn't played in the NFL,
42:15
and you haven't either, Okay, anyway, so you played in the NFL,
42:22
you don't know, Yeah, who you got in that game? I
42:25
don't know. Straight up, Alabama always plays in big games. They show
42:31
up. But Georgia has not looked dominant this year. They doesn't look like
42:37
they have the last few years. But they've been sneaking them out. But
42:39
that's what I was gonna say. Georgia has found a way to win.
42:43
So I'm gonna go with Georgia finding a way to win again because I think
42:46
Georgia is more talented than Alabama, but they haven't played like they are.
42:52
I mean, you watch all their games. There's been a lot of close
42:54
games. And you know, I agree, well, and you know you've
42:59
got Carson Beck first year, uh quarterback. I mean, you lost a
43:05
ship ton of people on defense. And we say it every year, when's
43:07
this gonna be the down year for them? We say it about Alabama and
43:12
you know they lost one game early and you think this is the year they
43:15
lose a couple and they just haven't, you know, or maybe three or
43:19
something. But I think that the quarterback, for like I said, Alabama,
43:23
Milroe, he's gotten better. I mean, he's gotten way better at
43:27
the beginning of that year. If I would love to see Texas played them
43:30
at the end of the year versus how they played him at the beginning of
43:34
the year, because I do think that they've got I think that he got
43:37
better and I thought he was the main reason that Texas won. Obviously,
43:40
Texas had a better defense or played better on defense, and their line plate
43:45
was pretty impressive. Thought, but I thought of Quinn Yewers, who has
43:51
experienced and who might be coming back. We'll talk about that here a little
43:54
bit. Notice I never thought Quinn Yours is that good. Though, I
43:58
don't think you don't think he's that good, but I mean he's he's a
44:00
pretty good. I mean, you don't think Dylan Gabriel is good. And
44:04
I just said you shows you didn't like stets and Bennett. But he won
44:08
a national title. Oh, he was the one that won a national title.
44:13
That generational defense had nothing to do with winning a national title. Just
44:16
Stet's have been huh. Oh, I'm saying he won a title. Hey,
44:20
there's been a lot titles. There's been a lot of quarterbacks that it
44:23
doesn't matter, and it doesn't have the armstring, not having all the guys.
44:30
But here's players together. Puts on an island by himself, yours he
44:37
puts on. But Stet's and Bennett, Oh, it's all the players around
44:40
him. It's a defense. It's this, it's that. I'm not I'm
44:43
not saying anything about that. He said. Stet's and Bennett won a national
44:46
championship. I said, he's the one that won that for them. I
44:50
don't think so. I thought George's defense had a big part of winning a
44:53
national You didn't say any of that. You said, generational defense, the
44:58
draft picks. Dude. Yeah, by the way, that generational draft pick
45:00
of Jalen Carter. How's that working out for? He's good? Is he?
45:04
Yes? He is? He? He is? What do you want?
45:06
You watch the Eagles? Yeah, that guy, I haven't seen him.
45:08
He's just a big, fat guy in the way. He's a big
45:12
water headed, fat guy in the way. He's just No, I'm watching,
45:15
I'm watching all the guys. I'm not gonna take all the guys around
45:20
and I'm doing better. I'm just saying, if you had your choice between,
45:24
well, hold on, sorry, hold that thought, because I haven't.
45:29
All the guys around who are doing better their line the other guys.
45:32
It doesn't matter. Come on now, all of a sudden, generational defense,
45:38
I said, George's Well, he's not the Eagles George. You said
45:43
generation, but he was in the generation, the generational defense of the town.
45:46
That was he was a generational What about Flowers, He's awesome? You
45:54
said the entire defense generation George George. Okay, so the comparing player versus
46:00
the other players just play and then you look at Flowers, that's one receiver.
46:08
Hold on, what does that gut to do with it? I'm talking
46:12
about Will Anderson j having a better season Georgia's defense to be some of the
46:17
most generational talent on that defense, and he's you really need to stop using
46:22
that. You hear said, Jalen Carter's played like trash this year. I
46:25
disagree. I didn't say he played like trash. Oh, he just he
46:29
plays worse than anybody on that line or what. He's just a fat guy
46:31
that's in the way. Okay, so but you said he played worse than
46:36
everybody else on that Eagles the other the other guys are playing the other Eagles
46:38
line. Yeah, the other Eagles, Davis uh, any other rookies on
46:44
that week. Yeah, there's a there's another Georgia guy on there line.
46:47
But anyway, there's not that starts and Jalen Carters not. I'm just telling
46:52
you that was my point. I'm comparing that guy to the other line on
46:57
on the Philadelphia and all I'm compared is you got c. J. Stroud
47:01
rookie. You got Flowers rookie on the line, But you can't pick one
47:08
position and compare them and not pick other positions. What what are you comparing
47:14
Okay Flowers generating the people Flowers against the other receivers on that team. I
47:19
would take Flowers right now over. I'm not saying I wouldn't c J.
47:22
Stroud best. He's the best. He's the rookie of the year. What
47:25
are you talking about. I never said that Jayalen Carter was rookie of the
47:29
Year. I don't know where you're going with this. You're saying that he
47:34
is good. I'm not saying he I'm not disagreeing with that. But my
47:38
point is from defense, he is not as good as but the other guys.
47:45
He is not as good as the players it's on. He's not I
47:50
don't have their names. My point is other ones that played on the National
47:55
Champions of Defense. I mean, I can look him up later and know
47:59
we were gonna have to talk about. My point is is you're talking about
48:04
him and you admitted he's not excused the other players around him because he's a
48:07
rookie. I didn't say that. I said, if you want to judge
48:12
him. He said he wasn't as good. I said, but dude,
48:15
he's a rookie. I think he's a good year. I didn't say he
48:17
didn't have a good year. I'm not saying he didn't. But but what
48:21
I'm saying is is if you compare him, he's still a rookie. Say
48:23
Flowers is a rookie. C J. Stroud's a rookie. They both look
48:27
like all stars. He doesn't around him, is what the point? But
48:32
statistic Brian branch Will Anderson Junior both look way better than him and are better
48:38
than him. Say they didn't look better, and they weren't on generational defenses
48:43
where theyistically okay statistically, say Flowers is not having a great year. Statistically
48:50
he's not. Look at the stats. He doesn't compare. That's because he's
48:52
with a quarterback that doesn't throw. He he's a runner first quarterback. I'm
48:58
just telling you though, when he's the ball in his hand, he makes
49:00
place. He has big yard called that. I said he was the number
49:04
one wide receiver in the draft, said it from the beginning. I didn't
49:06
didn't. But I'm not comparing him. I'm comparing him to the other players.
49:09
On the Philly line. That's what I was comparing him to. He's
49:14
just a other receivers and I'm comparing Stroud. Okay, that's why Stroud is
49:22
the best quarterback on the Houston Texans. I'll give you that, like the
49:25
best receiver on the Ravens, but I don't. But I'm not saying that
49:30
Jalen Carter was the best. I don't say he was the best either.
49:34
I mean, one other quarterback had you had at Houston since they traded to
49:37
Seawan, No one. So I mean it's easier to be the best there.
49:40
I'm just saying he's got a line. Philadelphia had a good defense last
49:44
year before he got there. Yes, No, okay, so anyway,
49:50
yes he has. So I'm just saying he added to the defense. He
49:54
added to the defense. No, I'm just I'm just sorry. I'm just
49:59
I'm looking to see. My point was is you said he's generational, fall
50:02
into what defensive leaders? This is just stats. I mean that's the same
50:10
as any for this generational. I said he was on a generational defense in
50:15
college. Dude, you need to generational. Then you can't name anybody else
50:19
on that defense. I'd have to go back and look, but that's one
50:22
of the best defenses I've ever seen play. They are on a what streak?
50:25
Win? That was the U? I mean, what are they winning?
50:29
What's their winning streak right now? Can you name it? Twenty seven?
50:32
I don't know. Okay, there you go, twenty seven games.
50:36
Okay, thank you, So you looked it up. I didn't, and
50:37
I got pretty damn close. But anyway, but all I'm saying is it's
50:43
not because of Stetson, Bennett and Carson, because they've had that streak.
50:46
They have helped. It's a team. But if it wasn't for that defense,
50:50
they would not be there, period. That's all I said. And
50:53
I think that that last year was one of the best defenses I've ever seen
50:57
on a team period. My point, the TCU game and they beat Michigan,
51:01
who was supposed to be the best defense. You can't bring up the
51:05
science Steelers lost. They cheated. Okay, so let's be unless you're Addy
51:12
Guerrero, all I said, you said he was generational. I said he
51:19
was on a generational defense, not myself. Okay, never said that.
51:22
Misunderstood then because he was on a generational defense. And we're gonna play this
51:27
back, just using the bud buzzwords that he hears. I have to use
51:31
the generation on the on the on the on the radio, because that's all
51:34
he listened to. Listen to radio. You don't listen to sports serious x
51:38
M No, but what do you? What do you listen to when you're
51:43
in your turn? Listen to a lot of serious radio music. I read
51:45
about sports. I don't have to listen. Oh, Twitter, I forgot
51:50
whatever he's he reads nothing getting in there. I thought you said he was
51:54
generational generational defense part of sorry and say it was my fault and he was
52:00
one of the best on that team. But he wasn't. That was a
52:04
team effort. They were all good linebackers. Anyway, m hm, So
52:09
I've got I've got Georgia probably now as we moved on an hour, So
52:19
what's the pick? You can see I'm done now. You guys have argued
52:22
to me about fucking Georgia defenses from years ago, last year, years Carter
52:29
wouldn't have one year. Wonder last year he murdered a guy. Anyway,
52:35
moving on, I said Georgia, Yeah, what was the spread? Four
52:40
and a half Georgia by three. It's Atlanta too isn't it. But we
52:47
wasn't picking spreads we were doing I mean, I even I don't even know
52:51
the spread there. I had Alabama winning this game. See that was you
52:57
did? You did, But the Aburn game disappointed me. But you freeze,
53:04
you freeze, you freeze. When he was in the city, I
53:07
mean, I'm leaning Georgia, but I haven't made my miss. He won't
53:12
freeze until the final play had people and his play has been Nick Saban before.
53:22
Nick he knows Nick Saban. He knows how to screw with me.
53:25
And Will Rogers entered the portal. Okay, let's go on. Let's move
53:28
on. Appalatian State. App you ain't from around here, are you?
53:36
Yeah? And Troy. Troy is a favorite by six and take Troy.
53:43
That's a good team too. But yeah, it's a Troy home game.
53:49
You got Louisville and Florida State. Florida States favored by six and a half.
53:53
After the quarterback going out, I I really have to lean towards Louisville.
54:00
What where do they play that game at Florida? I'm asking, I
54:07
don't remember. I just have in Vegas Insider at the Carolina Panthers stadium they
54:15
used to play it there. I don't let me, let me run,
54:16
but let but Florida State squeaked out one by Florida. Jehan wasn't really there.
54:22
He was watching the Bears game because he's got to cover on This is
54:25
what he's really open for. But here's the deal. I need my Bears
54:30
to lose when I can get my cover. Here's the deal. Florida State
54:32
played Florida last week. Not an impressive win. Charlotte. Yeah, okay,
54:38
so that, but but no home game advantage there. No, But
54:42
here's the deal. Florida State didn't look very good new quarterback. I understand
54:46
that. But I'm just saying Louisville is a good, well rounded team,
54:52
not saying Florida State is it. But when you take the leader of the
54:55
team leg bent the wrong way, he's not playing, You've got a new
55:00
guy in I. They barely squeaked by Florida. Florida is not Bowl eligible
55:06
this year. They are not very good. Didn't they didn't they turn on
55:09
the five? I thought they, I thought they. I know Louisville got
55:14
slaughtered by Kentucky. They did slaughtering by seven's not slaughtering that's a slaughter for
55:20
that's a rival game too. Yeah twenty four fifteen and uh and and Road
55:23
and got knocked out of that game as well. There they're backup quarterba.
55:27
I'm just saying, I don't think Florida State can can can do it,
55:30
not two weeks in a row, not the way they go So baby,
55:35
So what what's Florida's record? Who cares? It's Florida. It's a rivalry
55:40
game. Oh, everything's out the door when it's a rivalry game. According
55:44
to Kinney, I didn't say everything, but generally, I've seen a lot
55:46
of rivalry games. I mean, look at Auburn in Alabama. Look at
55:51
all Miss, look at all Miss and uh Okay, I still I still
55:55
don't think Florida State. It was close. It was it was close going
55:59
under the flour. I think Florida State loses is my prediction I have.
56:05
I don't know where to leave. And if you look right here, I
56:08
have Florida State in my final four. But I just with their quarterback being
56:15
out and what I seen last week, I mean I just I just don't
56:17
see what was that? A pit loss at thirty spread? Gimme I leave
56:29
Louisville on that, but I don't know if they're gonna win. I don't
56:31
either, but I'm just gonna I'm gonna take it. How do you have
56:35
the darts of pepper bottle? I'm taking I mean, I don't know if
56:43
they can, but I'm leaning that way after what I saw against Florida.
56:46
I know it's a rivalry, but Florida's down Florida State. I think Florida
56:52
State would have ran away with that game if their quarterback. Yes, but
56:57
when he's gone, they're just one player can change a whole lot of their
57:01
team. I'm leaning on the cover Florida State winning straight up. I think
57:06
they sneak in. I think the as we get to our final four picks,
57:10
I think they punish them though a little bit. I think they still
57:13
get in, but they put them at FOURID to play Georgia. Okay,
57:15
Georgia wins. So anyway, Anyway, if we talked about Michigan Iowa,
57:19
is there any need to No, there's no need. That's the last game
57:23
with Brian Frantz not coming back. I've done. I've done with Iowa.
57:27
I want to add. Okay, the over is thirty five twenty one and
57:30
a half on Vegas Insider. Yeah, but the over unders thirty five on
57:34
this, which is nuts. The spread is that thig So what was Vegas
57:39
is one and a half? Yeah, they've got twenty three. Yeah,
57:43
but the over under on this is thirty five and a half. But their
57:45
favorite, so that that's nuts. But anyway, do you think Iowa,
57:50
who has a really good defense, do you think Iowa can hold Michigan under
57:52
twenty Nope? I don't not in the slightest I don't. I switch that
58:00
game out for a for the for the s m U two lade game.
58:06
No, I think you should leave them. I was only gonna take para
58:08
five. Yeah, you should take para five because I don't what'd you say?
58:13
The spread West was? How much for twenty one and a half.
58:15
He's got twenty one, they've got twenty three of them. I might take
58:19
Iowan. That I would not. I was defense is good. Offense,
58:22
give offense ship it is. They cannot score, it'll be, it'll be,
58:30
it'll be, it'll be a six to twenty seven. That's twenty one,
58:35
Okay, c let's close. That's what I'm saying. If their defense
58:42
is as good as advertised, but I would did lose to the two big
58:45
teams they played. They had the easier schedule this year, generally massively easy.
58:51
That's why they would take, you know, more like it. The
58:53
one team that they had to play, Wisconsin. Does does hardball come back?
58:58
He does come back for the championship game? Didn't he straight game suspense?
59:01
Yeah, Ohio, Ohio State. That Ohio State game was and I
59:06
watched that game. Oh my god, tables were playing over here, but
59:16
I watched that game. I was, oh my god, I was.
59:20
I didn't know. I just I didn't need Michigan to kick that last field
59:23
goal. I just needed them to just try to run that ball out,
59:28
Just try to don't kick that field goal, don't take that six points.
59:30
Ohio State was within three. They weren't going to be able to move.
59:35
I thought it was. I thought that, Yeah, I picked Michigan.
59:44
Ten years in a row that you have been I know, and that's three
59:47
and that's three years in a row, that kiddy. We've we've we've had,
59:55
we've hit everything as far as that we get a final on the NFL
59:59
game before we move on. Fifty seconds left, it's one point. I'm
1:00:01
going six and four of them? What is this? What is this noise?
1:00:08
The Bears over here? Yes, there he goes sliding up to second
1:00:19
beat the Viking. That doesn't led them the second. It doesn't because just
1:00:23
because they beat the Vikings doesn't mean they automatically go to number two. Vikings
1:00:29
six and five, Bears are three and eighth. Is gonna be pissed about
1:00:32
this? Your mental son makes bad decisions like his brother already. So they've
1:00:38
got so you just stayed off the phone. Hey, would you just focus
1:00:43
on what you're doing? Would you focus on what you're doing? Go lead
1:00:45
into the next we're talking about coaching. Is that we're moving on the NFL.
1:00:51
Everybody NFL is just NFL Philly one Kansas City? Did they win?
1:00:55
Now, we're not gonna talk a lot of Chicago's apparently gonna win the ass
1:00:59
whole the NFL, NFL, NFL is gonna be our It's gonna be our
1:01:05
pitch. As we move on. An interesting game that from the NFL this
1:01:08
week. I thought, not that I thought that Pittsburgh shouldn't have won against
1:01:13
Cincinnati, but I thought going over four hundred yards was and who was I
1:01:20
think? In two weeks we're gonna have a guest on Pittsburgh by standard from
1:01:23
Pittsburgh. We're gonna talk about a little bit about football, and that's going
1:01:28
to come on and talk about the change, Hello, and the change at
1:01:31
Pittsburgh. And so he's gonna come on with this. I canceled tonight because
1:01:36
I knew it was going to be late. So we've got a guy up
1:01:37
there that that's going to talk about the change and what the fans are thinking
1:01:40
and and how they move forward, and is can you pick at the guy
1:01:45
for them to move to beer Flies. So anyway, and Dallas beat another
1:01:50
team that they should have. I thought, I thought Detroit losing that bad
1:01:54
was disappointing. Well, that's because you picked him, and that's your fault.
1:01:59
Now that that was a bad loss. That was absolutely a bad loss.
1:02:02
Golf looked like golf did. It looked like a regular Detroit team,
1:02:09
like the Detroit team that we're used to. And I thought, I thought,
1:02:15
and as I haven't give ship on Jordan Love, I said, give
1:02:17
him time. He has he has gotten better as the season has went along.
1:02:22
Kenny Generational, I never said that I just just give him a shot.
1:02:28
Hey, you know, I took a generational poo in your toilet earlier
1:02:30
lit from Streaks. So anyway, moving on to uh, coach, I'm
1:02:36
not even getting in the coaching care all right, you all talked about that,
1:02:39
here's let's let's go to A and M. Let's go to A and
1:02:44
M. I was listening to Danny and Dusty this morning and the lady Dusty,
1:02:51
Uh, the lady called in and we all know about the Mike Stoops
1:02:55
having the job but not having the job. A lady who called in and
1:03:00
said that she's she's she's very close to the internal workings of Texas A and
1:03:07
M. And it was not the fans that bitched, No, it wasn't
1:03:14
the donors. It was the border regions. So what happened was he flew
1:03:17
in, got off the plane. They looked at him and said, sorry,
1:03:22
you're gonna have to just get back on the plane and go back home.
1:03:25
Put you in a really very Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the question.
1:03:29
They asked. Is it the fan base? Is it the players that
1:03:32
are going to be more disappointed? Is oh, you know, what are
1:03:37
you looking at? What? What do you when you go back to your
1:03:38
players, You're like, hey, guys, sorry, but do the players
1:03:44
have to understand that you have to, you know, move up and make
1:03:46
money. Now you're talking a little bit from the Kentucky side of the Kentucky
1:03:52
side, but I mean I kind of want to talk a little bit about
1:03:54
the side of Well that was the region. The region the regents said,
1:04:00
we're not we're not getting this guy. Well, why is he flying here?
1:04:02
A couple thoughts he is not flying in? Not finalized? Is is
1:04:09
one thing? A couple a couple thoughts on this on A and M,
1:04:12
A and M generally is a dumpster fire. Anyway, they just paid out
1:04:15
a guy that they thought was the greatest thing, seventy million dollars to go
1:04:18
away, and they get and that guy gets to just keep collecting that money
1:04:23
as we go on. Now, if you look at Jimbo Fisher's record at
1:04:27
Florida State, he did have a couple of good years. Give credit to
1:04:30
Jameis Winston. The guy got paid. I would say a good third of
1:04:33
that seventy seven million should be given to Jameis Winston. By Jimbo Fisher,
1:04:39
he won the national championship there and then you look at his seasons after Jamis
1:04:43
left. Now, Jamis was no prize in the NFL, say generation,
1:04:48
but his record continue, his record continue. He got lazy recruiting, he
1:04:54
just didn't do it. So the hold on you say that Jameis Winston was
1:04:58
no prize in the NFL from personal experience, from fan experience. And then
1:05:03
so you turn around and then you get you hire Jimbo Fisher, and then
1:05:09
you bring in Mike Elko as your defensive coordinator. Had good years, one
1:05:13
of the better years. And then he turns around and goes to he goes
1:05:18
to Duke and takes over that job. Now, Duke is a fucking hard
1:05:24
job to win at anybody, but he's been one of the better. No,
1:05:28
it's just it's private school. It's acc That's a good point because I'm
1:05:33
getting ready to bring in Now you look at Mark Stoops, who is went
1:05:38
and coached at a basketball school and has done much better overall. Now,
1:05:43
Elko has not had nearly the time link that Stoops has had at Kentucky.
1:05:47
But that guy at Kentucky has won less with less than Jimbo Fisher. I'm
1:05:54
sorry with yeah, one more with less than Jimbo done with more, a
1:05:59
lot, a lot more. I mean at everything. I mean, you
1:06:01
talk about the Neil, the money, the coaching pay, his pay,
1:06:05
everything was just handed to you, and that's probably why you get it.
1:06:09
I thought Mark Stoops when I heard that. Originally I thought that, I
1:06:12
said, I thought Trailer was going to be the coach. But when I
1:06:15
heard Mark Stoops, I thought, damn, that's a really good hire to
1:06:19
bring him in. He's won at Kentucky, hard to win at now,
1:06:25
he's won ten games a couple times. I don't know if he's the winningest
1:06:28
coach there, but at least I know that he is been one of the
1:06:31
best coaches at Kentucky, and he's had time to stay there. Now you
1:06:36
look at you look at stadium's Neil facilities, all that stuff at Kentucky compared
1:06:45
to A and M. I mean, you're going into a gold mine,
1:06:48
makes it tougher understood, But Shawn's probably I mean, Sean is right.
1:06:55
I mean, there was someone that they had made a decision that they thought
1:06:58
they could and then they got a back clash from a bunch of people.
1:07:00
They're afraid of themselves getting replaced. You know, those guys are gonna replace
1:07:04
them, and that was the problem there. So they turn around. What
1:07:09
we don't want that. Mike Eelko got the job because I think it's because
1:07:12
he was a safer pick because he'd been there, he knew that, and
1:07:16
he had a good record, you know, a few years at Duke.
1:07:19
So I'm not gonna shit on that pick. I thought Stoops was a better
1:07:24
pick, but I'm not saying that Elko's not. I'm not saying. And
1:07:27
I do think Elko is going to be a better coach than Jeff Fisher or
1:07:30
I'm not Jeff Jimbo Jemmy Fisher definitely would be better Jeff Fisher. Yikes,
1:07:34
So another coaching. I mean, obviously we're gonna talk about the obvious as
1:07:38
we get ready to wind up. Jeff Levy leaves Oklahoma moves on to Michigan
1:07:43
State or I mean Mississippi State. Obviously there was some connections from the get
1:07:47
go. Zach Selman, former cincinnad at Ou he takes a d job at
1:07:53
at Mississippi State, so the connections were already there. Jeff Levy was an
1:07:58
offensive coordinator at Mississippi, so everything made since we knew sports allegedly crew knew
1:08:04
by an insider. I think it was what are we at Monday. We
1:08:09
knew Friday night or Saturday night that that was gonna go down. We had
1:08:12
a good connection that said it, but we wanted to wait till it was
1:08:15
announced. And but it was. I mean it was. He was named
1:08:19
right at the beginning. Now, a couple of things I want to talk
1:08:23
about that. I found it odd, not odd. Let me back up.
1:08:27
I see the connection why Zach Selma made it, but to Jeff Levy
1:08:30
has had no head coaching experience to begin with. I thought it was going
1:08:35
to be a tough job for Levy, but hey, he's an offensive guy.
1:08:40
That's what you're gonna need. I think the only coach that has been
1:08:43
at Mississippi State that has succeeded is Dan Mullen. He actually got promoted to
1:08:46
take another job at Florida, and that's because that Prescott was his quarterback if
1:08:50
you remember those years. And Dan done a good job there because he had
1:08:54
a get. But that's a tough job. Mississippi is a better job than
1:08:57
Mississippi State, so you're always going to be battling that in state school and
1:09:01
Lane Kiffin is obviously a big name coach. Now Levy's got his work cut
1:09:05
out for him. Do we know is he bringing any o you people?
1:09:09
That's gonna be interesting. He's probably gonna bring some staffers, probably gonna bring
1:09:13
some guys from your support staff, that type of stuff. Is he good?
1:09:17
As far as I know? No recruiters. Is he gonna bring any
1:09:20
big or or Jackson. Jackson is gonna stay. He's you're not going to
1:09:28
He's gonna be the man on the big man on campus. But any other
1:09:30
coaching, I mean I think that you know, I heard a big name
1:09:33
going to Indiana. Uh, I think it was a full NFL coach.
1:09:40
Oh boy, I can't remember who it was. Ask Kevin Wilson from Tulsa
1:09:44
how that Indiana job works out? And he had a pretty good year there,
1:09:48
I mean years there too. Indiana's a tough school to play again,
1:09:51
you know too. I mean, you've got the competition around you and you're
1:09:54
in the Big ten. Changed it. But that's a tough job. Duke's
1:10:00
a tough job. Oregon State is going to be a much tougher job now
1:10:02
because I'm going to go to the PAC two. We think Harson's going to
1:10:09
back to Boise's our prediction. And then of course Jonathan Smith got hired,
1:10:14
which I thought was a really good hire for for Michigan State. So that's
1:10:17
the big jobs that are open. We'll talk about as we finish up.
1:10:21
You're you're waiting. We're kind of waiting on USC Syracuse. Remember Syracuse,
1:10:27
Yes, Syracuse, I tell you wanted fran Brown the defensive assistant for Georgia.
1:10:32
So he's got he's got some ties up there in the Northeast. That
1:10:35
looks like coached at Rutgers, Temple and Baylor, and then he's a New
1:10:40
Jersey Nator. I can see that making sense for them. As far as
1:10:43
Syracuse. Boy, that's another tough job too. So OC coordinator for Oklahoma.
1:10:48
We talked a little bit about it last week. I like, if
1:10:50
we go outside, I like Brenna Mary, and if we go if we
1:10:53
stay in house, I think Seth the Treill is a fine hire. I
1:10:58
think that's a lot of talk, and you know you could be but you
1:11:01
know, Houston's open. The Cougar's job is open, and that's gonna a
1:11:05
drunk garden. That's what it was. John Gordon going to Indiana. That's
1:11:14
I was like, what am I trying to that would be interesting? He
1:11:17
does need a job. Is he banned from the NFL for a while or
1:11:20
what has he got a show cause on that? I don't know. He's
1:11:25
with the Saints, No, no, he said, is he is he
1:11:29
leaving? This? Is he Indiana? But what I don't think he's coaching
1:11:35
at all, unless he's being some sort of special assistant or something. Well
1:11:42
he might be. He might be, but I think that, but I
1:11:45
think that when it comes down to it, all those are hard jobs.
1:11:50
Oh you as far as those, Houston's gonna be interesting because that always gets
1:11:55
a local feel. But like I said, Brenda Marion, if you go
1:12:00
outside otherwise, uh yeah, I tried to figure that out. I tried
1:12:04
to look, and I could not think of an offensive corner unless we're still
1:12:08
UNLVS. Well, I mean I sent you that list. I did the
1:12:11
list of we can still memphisis off you as a top top offense. That's
1:12:19
what I went through. Maryon makes the most sense if you go outside because
1:12:23
of his Tulsa. I mean, we've talked about I've talked about this,
1:12:26
and and that's interesting. I just saw that, mister. I didn't know
1:12:31
that that stock still got fired from uh Tennessee Middle Tennessee State. He's been
1:12:38
there for like thirty twenty years. That's interesting. Long time coach got fired.
1:12:44
Uh. Anyway, portal time gonna be a lot of portal talk opening
1:12:47
up. Not gonna get that it's too tough. We'll talk next week about
1:12:50
a list if it makes any importance. Next week we'll talk about we'll talk
1:12:55
a little more NFL talk about the fine. Oh shoot, right as we
1:12:59
leave all four thoughts, we're pushing the original final four after this week.
1:13:04
You still got your original final four. You're gonna go Georgia, Michigan,
1:13:08
Florida State, Oregon. That's your pick. Okay, Now you want to
1:13:12
change that positioning any We never put them. We never picked. We just
1:13:18
picked final four. Okay, can I Can I change my l s U
1:13:23
No, I'd have to change mine to Yeah, you go. You got
1:13:29
three, it's already out. Yeah, you two got I've got one that
1:13:32
you chose Clemson for some weird reason that we cannot figure out. Really,
1:13:38
you got sucked into the Rileys. I did. I really thought that they
1:13:41
would have him, and I didn't think that Florida State would be as good
1:13:44
as they were. And you know, and I told you at the beginning
1:13:45
of the year, but Florida State would be there. I'm looking at I'm
1:13:48
looking at the total offense. You look at Clemson though they have improved as
1:13:53
the season as well, and they're not gonna win anything. The lost four
1:13:55
games early, but they have improved and it's because of their defense. I
1:13:58
can't find. Yeah, there they are. Yeah, yeah, it's not
1:14:00
been good. Where's where's that? Oh? No, no, no,
1:14:06
no. A and m wanted demo and he didn't go. I think I
1:14:12
think that's a lot of I think that's a lot of Yeah. Yeah,
1:14:15
I think it's his his agent out there going here's what I'm here. He
1:14:19
takes the Alabama job if it ever comes open, Dan Lanning's choice there,
1:14:25
what do you think Dan Lanning will take it? In a heartbeat? If
1:14:28
Dan Lanning stays at Orgon, continues to do what he did, he does
1:14:31
helem you continue to do what you do. I think Dan Lanning is a
1:14:36
favorite to take the Alabama job if and when he retires. I think it's
1:14:43
I don't, I don't. I think that guy is just you know,
1:14:46
I think Saban's wife is really starting to get in his ear. But he
1:14:53
can no, no, he can do the commercial work, and and I
1:14:57
think his wife just is like, hey, you know, maybe we could
1:15:00
spend some time with our grandkids. I don't know. Wife has never said
1:15:05
I want to spend time with my husband. Never in the history of Yeah,
1:15:10
he likes football, probably that's fine. I didn't Nobody said a wife
1:15:15
said that, not a husband? Or did you say husband's I said,
1:15:20
okay, all right, anything else? Will we close up? Let's go
1:15:24
over it. Picks you picked last week for the final four? Final four?
1:15:29
Last week? Can he had Bama, Ohio State, Washington, Texas,
1:15:33
Sean had Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, Oregon the same since the
1:15:38
beginning of the season. I switched my l s U to Texas. You
1:15:44
have got Georgia, Michigan. I got Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, Texas
1:15:48
had. Hey, let me give you one scenario though we talked about that.
1:15:51
Alabama beats Georgia. Yes, Washington wins, Florida State wins. Who's
1:15:57
the fit fourth Michigan? Okay, say that again? Alabama wins. Okay,
1:16:06
Alabama beat Georgia, wins, Florida State wins. Who's for if you
1:16:12
take Alabama because they beat Georgia. If you take Alabama, there is no
1:16:16
way you can hardly leave I mean they they can, but in my opinion,
1:16:20
there's no way you leave Texas out because they went to Tuscaluska. Tuscaluska.
1:16:28
Yeah, he said it. They went to Tuscaluska. Yeah. I
1:16:34
can't say. There. You go thanks and beat Alabama. They went on
1:16:40
the road and beat Alabama. I'm just telling you the Bold Committee, which
1:16:45
he says, they take the wins at they were ranked when you beat them.
1:16:51
That's what the bull said. The Bowl Committee says is they take Yes,
1:16:58
they take the win when you beat them. It doesn't matter what they
1:17:00
finish up at the end of season. They take the win when you played
1:17:03
them, what they were ranked. That's what they say. So you go
1:17:08
and beat Alabama at home when they were ranked three, and you take Alabama
1:17:15
in and you leave the team out that kick their ass. There's no way,
1:17:20
there's no way. If they do that, then you ought to throw
1:17:25
all the fucking predictions and both. That just tells you regular season games doesn't
1:17:30
fucking matter. It doesn't matter. Here's the champion. Here's here's my retort
1:17:34
to that argument. Oh you beat Texas and then oh you lost a game,
1:17:40
but yet oh few games? No, no, the first game,
1:17:44
look right there, Oh you got ranked under Texas. How does that work?
1:17:49
You're saying that you cannot put Alabama over Texas. I'm everybody is taking
1:17:55
Oklahoma and put them under Texas and Alabama even though, oh, you beat
1:17:59
Texas. All I'm saying, where does that make sense? It doesn't.
1:18:02
But all I'm telling Alabama beats Georgia, jumps Texas, Texas is out.
1:18:08
But all I'm saying is is they say that it doesn't matter. Okay,
1:18:16
it doesn't matter. They rank you where the team you beat. If if
1:18:24
you play Alabama at the time they ranked three, you beat them, that
1:18:28
is a number three win. You beat the number three team in the nation.
1:18:31
They don't drop it down to Now Alabama's seven or eleven or whatever the
1:18:35
fuck they are. Alabama is eight, Alabama's eight. They say they don't
1:18:43
drop you down to what they are. Now, well, I know,
1:18:46
let me finish my thoughts. No, okay, I don't necessarily disagree with
1:18:51
you. So what are you going with? You're going the PAC twelve chant
1:18:55
gets in. Now, that's only if Oregon wins. It's An wins.
1:19:03
Here's the dealio is Alabama. No, here's for the predictions. I mean,
1:19:12
here's for the BCS predictions. Georgia. Alright, Alabama beats Georgia.
1:19:17
Okay, here's the here's the worst case scenario. Alabama beats Georgia. They
1:19:23
take Alabama, they take, they take Florida State wins out, Michigan wins,
1:19:30
and Washington wins, so Oregon so and they and they put yes and
1:19:39
they put Alabama in over all them, which Alabama has already lost a head
1:19:43
and head match at home to Texas. That is the worst case scenario for
1:19:47
the people that the Bowl prediction, because you have to think about this.
1:19:51
Texas went on the road and beat Alabama at home. Disagree with that,
1:19:56
Oh, you went on the road and meet Texas. But here's the deal.
1:19:59
Alabama, Texas are both I mean, Texas and Oklahoma are both on
1:20:01
the road. It's not a home film. It's still played in Texas,
1:20:05
but it's not. It's not going to sounds stupid. I know this is
1:20:11
gonna sound stupid, but Alabama's win over Georgia is gonna get more weight than
1:20:15
Texas has went over Alabama. I know that sounds nuts. But that's how
1:20:19
they're gonna judge it, because the SEC they're going to say is the tougher
1:20:24
conference. When we move there next season, Texas, that's when we get
1:20:30
that benefit of the doubt. But I wanted to talk about Texas. When
1:20:31
it comes down to Texas in Oregon, there's no doubt that Texas is going
1:20:34
to get it over Oregon. I don't think so. I don't think so
1:20:38
Oregon. I don't think Soxas. Oregon's ranked above Texas. And you look
1:20:43
at Oregon's wins. If you look at Oregon, Texas Tech win, they
1:20:46
won by eight, Texas Tech one by fifty, all on fake. You
1:20:50
look at Texas's wins again, you look at Texas Tech against against ranked.
1:21:00
Okay, here's my opinion. Listen, Texas's Texas wins. What you want
1:21:08
to say that again? Huh? What Oregon look at? Look at only
1:21:14
beat by Only beat Tech by eight, They beat Oregon State ranked they beat
1:21:19
They forgot about that. You look at all the teams you look at you
1:21:26
look at all the teams that Oregon has beat ranked teams has Texas beat they
1:21:33
got they got to Oregon's got four or Kansas hold on they had Kansas,
1:21:42
they had uh, Kansas State, but they hang on whoa, they got
1:21:53
Alabama, they got Kansas State, and what's the other are Kansas and Kansas
1:21:59
State? They got three? Now look at orgon the number of ranked opponents
1:22:04
they beat. They got me five. Yeah, they beat They've got five.
1:22:10
Orgon the fact that you schedule though, can schedule up? Pulling right
1:22:15
up, I'm just telling you they have more they have. That's right.
1:22:20
They beat a four win Colorado, but they were ranked at the time at
1:22:24
the time. I'm just saying. But I'm saying at the time, committee
1:22:27
don't care. They do, they don't. They number thirteen. So I'm
1:22:31
telling you beating a ranked team whenever it was, doesn't matter. It's what
1:22:35
the team finished at the end. The committee is people. They're gonna look
1:22:39
for the best wins. It's not gonna be like, oh, we can't
1:22:41
look past that. Colorado was two to zero and have and no, only
1:22:45
won two more games the rest of the year. To me and and to
1:22:49
a committee member, that should not be a quality win just because a game
1:22:54
two they were ranked. Okay, you must take that. Okay, Yeah,
1:22:57
I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree with what you're saying. But
1:23:00
my deal is if you go that, if you go that route, Okay,
1:23:05
that's the route we're going. So they're the top ring, first lost.
1:23:10
I just want to see it. Go ahead, crest and talk.
1:23:12
I always want to look at the schedules one two, though they lost their
1:23:16
one two, three and they're playing, so that'll be four wins. They
1:23:24
have four, I said five. You're right, so it's four. Texas
1:23:29
has got two. My point is, so you're either gonna pick You're either
1:23:38
okay, so it'll be four to three okay. My point is is you're
1:23:43
gonna pick that like you said, or you have to say, hey,
1:23:49
wait a minute, we have to see what they finish up. No,
1:23:53
no, no, no, I didn't say that. I said the committee
1:23:55
will always want to know at the end how you're done, because they're gonna
1:23:59
look at every win about how the team finished. Nobody cares. So nobody
1:24:03
cares if you beat USC when they were ranked top five, but they were
1:24:08
seven and five. In your head, is that his quality a win when
1:24:12
the team really wasn't that good. That's one point committee by personal people.
1:24:17
But my point that But my point is is if you don't count them as
1:24:21
when they played them. If you're not gonna count if Harry's weight, but
1:24:26
if you're not gonna count that, then that then you go down to the
1:24:30
win. Then then how are you gonna take Alabama over Texas when Alabama's ranked
1:24:38
above Texas. That's where the argument comes in. If you're not gonna look
1:24:42
back at what they were ranked at the time you beat No, if you're
1:24:45
not gonna look at what they were ranked at the time you built them,
1:24:47
I don't think then you have to look at what they're ranked at the end
1:24:50
of the year. And Texas beat fucking Alabama head to head, you cannot
1:24:55
take Alabama over Texas because Alabama's ranked tiron Texas. So that in your argument
1:25:00
period however, you look at that. No, I'm not saying that that
1:25:03
means everything you you say that just the rank. I'm saying, people look
1:25:08
at the overall effect Alabama when Texas beat Alabama Texas. So you're saying season
1:25:14
don't count. Didn't say that. You're not letting me finish. Alabama lost
1:25:17
to Texas, Texas has at home. I understand this. Texas is a
1:25:21
good damn team. Yes, they've only lost one game, so is Alabama.
1:25:28
Are we fair on that? Okay? So now overall ranking and what
1:25:31
you're gonna they're gonna look at as schedule is that Texas had an easier path
1:25:38
to get there. They both have one loss. Hold on that. How
1:25:41
did they have an easier path? Because you can't look back. You're just
1:25:45
saying you're not looking back what they were ranked at the time. What's right
1:25:47
or wrong? I'm telling you, you're saying you're not looked at what's what?
1:25:51
What? Who they played at the time the season? Overall, so
1:25:58
at the end of the season, who is Alabam I'm a beat? So
1:26:00
far this is ranked? Yeah? Would you pull up their schedule Alabama?
1:26:03
Oh? They beat? No, not at the time? Who have they
1:26:06
beat? It's ranked right now? Right now? LSU? All mo,
1:26:12
No, what's LSU ranked right now? They're like twenty three? Okay,
1:26:15
twenty three? Okay, So look back at Texas. Hold on, I'm
1:26:21
going, I'm going I'm right, hang on, I'm dunk. I'm lucky
1:26:25
because because I'm just telling you, we should have started this argument earlier.
1:26:29
Hey, did that does look like somebody's sister that I was looking at?
1:26:35
All? Right, so you have you have a dominating win over a number
1:26:40
fifteen, you have a win over number seventeen, a number fourteen. LSU
1:26:47
is still fourteen. No, they're down a little bit. Yeah, and
1:26:49
uh still in the top twenty five though, Remember Tennessee is not in the
1:26:56
top twenty five. That's what I'm saying. So you don't you don't count
1:27:00
what they're saying saying overall when you get down to it. But what I'm
1:27:03
saying is is no, you can't say it doesn't matter in the season.
1:27:09
It only matters what you finish at the end, and how you finish it
1:27:14
does a lot. I'm not counting. I'm just saying those teams, if
1:27:16
they still beat are ranked. Still Tennessee is not. But l s U.
1:27:20
Old Miss is ranked ahead of Oklahoma and they got beat Texas got beat
1:27:26
by a team that's ranked worse than old Miss. Who Alabama beat? Alabama's
1:27:30
one loss is by a top five team, Okay, and they're getting ready
1:27:34
to beat the number one. Hang on, hang on. So you're you're
1:27:38
telling me that Ole Miss is ten and two and Oklahoma is ten and two,
1:27:41
same fucking record. Misissippi's ranked a little higher, the ranked higher,
1:27:45
same record. So but you're taking a head to head matchup when the team
1:27:49
that beat them went on the road to their house and beat them. That
1:27:54
doesn't count. Then say it didn't count. But I'm saying, I'm just
1:27:58
saying. I'm saying, yeah, what holds more weight? Well, no,
1:28:01
i'n a team that went on the road and beat you at home,
1:28:04
and then you're comparing what they have beat and they have the same fucking recorded
1:28:11
disagree and to I think it doesn't matter. I think Texas gets in with
1:28:15
Alabama, but I don't think they're the lot to get in over Alabama.
1:28:20
That's all I said. Fair or not. I just think that's the way
1:28:24
it's gonna be. I'm not disagreeing. But what I'm saying is is,
1:28:27
how do you pick this ship if you're on the ball committee, Because you
1:28:30
have you have old miss Listen, you have Mississippi that's ten and two,
1:28:34
and you have Oklahoma that's ten and two yea, and you have the two
1:28:39
teams that you're fighting for to get Insippy lost to L s U and they
1:28:44
beat L s U. Who they lose to. They lost to Georgia and
1:28:47
alabamambers. Yeah, their losses were pretty good. They beat they beat LSU
1:28:54
in a barn burner. My point is, if you're a team that goes
1:29:00
on the road Georgia, that's much better losses than Kansas and Olden State.
1:29:05
Can you shut the texasbody did when we talked about the rings about Texas and
1:29:15
Alabama. But it is when you consider that they're one losses against a team
1:29:18
that lost to team your teams both still ranked, both still ranked, are
1:29:26
are wins? Yeah they are, and both of them both at the end.
1:29:30
And Texas is going to beat out the team that beat us and lose
1:29:33
their ranking, which is a bonus for them, no doubt about that.
1:29:38
I'm just telling you what they're gonna pick, not what I think I believe.
1:29:41
I have always said my opinion is always you cannot take a team that
1:29:45
went on the road to your house, beat your ass and you picked the
1:29:49
other team that lost to them over them. Fact to the fact, to
1:29:54
the matter, I know they have and it's chicken ship. Back to the
1:29:56
matter. As Alabama gets over and over Texas, if the other three teams
1:30:00
are undefeated, right or wrong, it's what happens. I'm not I'm not
1:30:05
disagreeing with you, but what I am trying to get at is how do
1:30:10
they pick that when Texas went to Alabama and beat their ass game, They're
1:30:15
gonna say games, but you look at the loss So you're saying you look
1:30:18
at the losses though still ranked teams. They've got two losses that are ranked
1:30:23
teams, and ou has got two losses both ranked teams. I'm not disagreeing,
1:30:28
but I think the margin is very slim there, and I think that's
1:30:30
why they're going to side with alab They always side with the SEC. I'm
1:30:35
tired of going but I'm tired of that bullshit. If you beat someone in
1:30:41
a head to head matchup, especially on the road, and they're playing now,
1:30:44
if it was at home, I could see your point. But when
1:30:45
Texas goes to Alabama and beats them, Alabama should not get in over Texas
1:30:51
period. I don't CARESFECE championships and Alabama wins are should go in over Texas.
1:31:01
I argued what I said, I said Orgon is the best team in
1:31:05
the nation. That was earlier. I didn't say Orgon goes in over Texas.
1:31:10
I said, I think they're the best team, and it comes down
1:31:12
to the final fourth spot, which I said, you said, Organ goes
1:31:15
in over Texas. Yes, Orgon does going over Texas. See I disagree
1:31:18
with that. Why do you disagree? Look at Organ's losses, Look at
1:31:24
Organs. They have more ranked opponents usc they have beaten more ranked US.
1:31:30
But that's over Oregon State's overall. Okay, so you're not going to count
1:31:34
the regular season wins. That's what I'm not saying that you're count You're focusing
1:31:39
on every you can't you can't count the you can't count the rank regular season
1:31:43
wins. I'm not saying you don't count them. You're just focusing on Hey,
1:31:46
they were ranked. Hey they were ranked. Hey they were ranked.
1:31:48
That's fine. But when it comes down to it is how they finished means
1:31:51
more than when they were ranked. That's my opinion. I'll always say that
1:31:56
I don't give a ship how far you were ranked week one. Okay,
1:32:00
go Alabama. Alabama is ranked higher than Texas right now, they have one
1:32:03
losses, they're about the same, but Alabama is ranked higher in Texas,
1:32:10
they're a Texas Alabama. They're all pretty much equal seven and eight. Okay,
1:32:15
So so my old argument, let's go to Alabama beats Georgia and Texas
1:32:23
beats you. They're both conference champions, Texas champions, they were both ranked.
1:32:29
Luca, I'm just telling you that Alabama beating Georgia jumps jumps Texas,
1:32:38
Texas beating Alabama, it doesn't count. That's what I'm saying. Regular season
1:32:44
doesn't fucking matter. You playing them head to head? Who was worse?
1:32:49
Whose loss was worse? Alabama beats Georgias. Lost to Oklahoma was worse than
1:32:55
losing to Texas. But Oklahoma has lost to two ranked teams. Alabama has
1:33:02
their lost lost in Texas. I mean, you look at it, they're
1:33:06
both ranked teams that were lost, So how is it worse? But how
1:33:12
is it worse? Take that scenario that you're battling for Texas over Alabama,
1:33:16
yet you don't take Texas over Georgia or Oregon, And then you got to
1:33:20
tell me why they Who is Georgia? Ohio State became the number two maybe
1:33:28
team and whatever? Hold on, hold on, hold on, you guys.
1:33:31
You guys aren't even looking at this. Ohio State became the number two
1:33:34
one loss team behind Oregon for now, But that's a p We have not
1:33:42
seen the committee till tomorrow. Well, yeah, we won't get that till
1:33:45
tomorrow. But this is what state as gonna be. Ohio State moved to
1:33:49
the second after lost of Michigan, a six point lost of Michigan. They
1:33:54
moved to the number two one loss team. That's under Oregon. But that's
1:33:59
for now Texas. Remember when Oregon lost, Oregon moved to the top one
1:34:04
lost team, Texas above Texas. Fucking matter. It matters that week,
1:34:10
But what really matters is Texas. Alabama has the has the chance. Issue
1:34:15
is ahead of them? Issue is because conference it's a big twelve. They're
1:34:19
not going. It doesn't matter if they're not gonna take that big twelve one
1:34:24
lost team. No, that's not true either. What they're doing is they're
1:34:27
waiting Texas moves ahead of Ohio State when they beat because they don't have a
1:34:30
game. You see, this is all just for show this week. It's
1:34:33
bullshit because Texas and Alabama have a right ahead of Ohio State. But I'm
1:34:39
just saying it. Alabama beach Georgia. They jumped Texas, which they're not
1:34:44
right now, but if they if if Alabama beat Georgia, Alabama gets pretty
1:34:47
close though, but Alabama gets in and Texas is out. I said,
1:34:53
that's only if that's only if Michigan, Washington, and Florida State went out.
1:34:57
Okay, but if they do, how do you take it? This
1:35:01
is what you But that's my point. You're you're saying because SEC they get
1:35:09
in when they got beat by a big twelve fucking team earlier in the year,
1:35:14
and the big twelve big team coming into the SEC. I don't give
1:35:18
a ship what they're coming into. I'm just saying the win was better,
1:35:24
though. The win for Alabama over Georgia will be Georgia. Who has Georgia
1:35:30
played? They beat They beat Old miss and UH eleven and nine. They
1:35:34
beat the ninth rank team and eleventh right team in Texas. They've had a
1:35:39
They've had a decent schedule, haven't they They have No, they've had a
1:35:42
pretty easy schedule, but they've had to be ranked. Doesn't matter. I've
1:35:47
taken the two right now. I'm telling you that are ranked Missouri, Kentucky,
1:35:54
TENNY. I don't care. I don't care about that. The old
1:35:56
Miss Missouri, the old Miss Missouri have better wins than Alabama and Texas.
1:36:00
Agree. Remember, remember he took Georgia. Georgia's win over Missouri and Ole
1:36:10
Miss is two better wins than Texas or Alabama's had. Okay, but Alabama
1:36:15
and Alabama beats them was just saved as damn job. So so what I'm
1:36:23
saying is is it doesn't matter what happens in the regular season, and it
1:36:27
matters. I'm just telling you what's gonna happen, not what matters. I'm
1:36:30
not disagreeing with what's gonna happen because I think you're right. People are gonna
1:36:36
go to their house and beat win. Is better Texas beating Alabama or is
1:36:41
Alabama beating Georgia. The win at Georgia is better than Texas beating Alabama.
1:36:45
It's just the way it's gonna I know that sounds funny, but that's how
1:36:48
they're gonna look at it because Georgia. I understand Georgia that that is my
1:36:54
problem that I had with this whole picking thing. Now it's gonna be twelve
1:36:59
teams and now three thirteen and fourteen is gonna be fucked. Is essentially how
1:37:01
that's gonna get. I know. But my point is is you went to
1:37:04
the team that got in above you and beat their ass at home. I
1:37:10
have not disagree with you. I know. I'm just I can't. I
1:37:12
can't believe that I'm done. I understand, I understand. You can't take
1:37:15
Alabama and not take Texas. Now I can't, but you just now hold
1:37:19
on as we finished up. But you said take Oregon over Texas. Oh
1:37:24
I didn't. I said Oregon is the best team in my opinion right now
1:37:28
watching them play. Georgia beats Alabama. You take Oregon over Texas. You
1:37:34
got Georgia. Yeah, you have to take the unbeaten teams. You have
1:37:39
to take it. Okay, you take Oregon because they're they their wins are
1:37:44
better. Take them over Texas. I don't, Yes, I do.
1:37:47
But you just argue for Texas over Alabama just because of the one win,
1:37:51
because Oregon, because they beat them head to hit, already lost to the
1:37:57
team they beat. Why give them credit? Is that because the loss is
1:38:00
vindicated? Okay? Or just because it's did Texas beat Oregon? No,
1:38:05
they beat Alabama, they didn't play exactly. My point is you've already beat
1:38:11
Alabama, so you cannot take Alabama, which you beat. You cannot take
1:38:15
them over the team that beat you when you have the same fucking record.
1:38:18
You cannot do that if they do that in the Bowl. What about Washington?
1:38:23
Why would you take Oregon over Washington. Washington beat organ because they vindicated
1:38:28
their win Texas O the regular season doesn't matter in that game. That's not
1:38:34
what I'm saying. That's what you're saying. If you take is you take
1:38:38
Alabama because they beat Georgia. That's all I'm saying. Said you said you
1:38:41
would take Alabama because they beat Georgia. But Alabama has lost to fucking Texas,
1:38:47
so you count the regular season out because they've already Texas already proved that
1:38:51
they're better than Alabamia, period. But you're not taking Texas over Oregon.
1:38:57
That's what I'd understand. You're you're giving credit to the Texas win over Alabama,
1:39:02
yet Oregon, who's already lost to the team they're gonna beat, You're
1:39:05
gonna take over Texas because the Alabama win didn't mean as much because they lost
1:39:11
to the number one team in the nation. Or would you take Would Alabama
1:39:15
beating Georgia allow you to take Texas over Oregan? Would Alabama beating Georgia would
1:39:23
you then take Texas over Oregon? Take Oregon because they win they win the
1:39:33
Pac twelve. You take Michigan, a big ten. Florida State. No,
1:39:40
I said, no, no, no, no, Florida State's out.
1:39:45
Okay, So Florida State's out. So you got you got Oregon,
1:39:49
Michigan, Alabama, Texas. That's your four teams. Okay, Georgia's out
1:39:57
now, Georgia's out if they lose Alabama. You can't put Georgia over Texas.
1:40:02
When Texas went to Alabama and beat Themas already proved. You're putting Oregon
1:40:09
over Washington, who they've already lost to because they won the last game.
1:40:12
You're giving that credit because of the champion pretty much, because they lost by
1:40:17
three points with miss one goal. What if it's a one point win.
1:40:23
There's a lot of scenarios. I mean, you get into it. I
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think it's not an exact science, and as we close up, it's a
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good conversation. But I just don't I think that they give too much credit
1:40:31
to SEC teams. Agreed, and that's why okaumb is glad to be going
1:40:35
anything else. Any Yeah, no, I don't. I don't really have
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much, okay, all right, just a just a good vine. I
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don't have much. I don't have anything. Well, thanks, for joining.
1:40:46
Sorry we went long, and sorry we were late. We really planned
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on like an hour and fifteen. Every time we get into these big conversations.
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Thank you for joining us, follow us on Twitter. I think it
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was is that we were just going to make it this a whole college episode.
1:41:00
We pretty much did. We did, uh we right, and then
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I might come back Wednesday. You know, see what you guys are doing
1:41:04
Wednesday, and come back Wednesday. We do an NFL or other sports episode
1:41:09
as well. Fine, but uh, I guess Kenny has to go try
1:41:13
to win back money from No. No. I could I could play.
1:41:15
I mean, I play here, I play here, I play here.
1:41:19
What we could actually do, what we could actually do is is do the
1:41:23
episode real quick and then go play cards. No No, I think we
1:41:27
need to talk about the final four because we're really gonna get to know about
1:41:29
the rankings tomorrow. So you want to do another episode for Tuesday? You
1:41:31
want to do a double beginning Dounesday Wednesday, Tuesday Wednesday. That's what I'm
1:41:38
saying, So double, we'll keep it. We'll keep it to thirty minutes.
1:41:40
Then, well, where do we keep it short? I'm gonna run
1:41:45
down this final four scenario with Chrisley, I have all kinds of options,
1:41:48
and then that's tolely fun. It's tollly fun. I got forced out because
1:41:53
I believe getting in Alabama and Alabama. But Alabama beating George is a better
1:42:00
win than So you're saying head to head doesn't matter. Well, head to
1:42:08
head Alabama would have beaten the number one team in the nation. No,
1:42:12
head to head, Alabama got beat by Texas. Period. You're taking the
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head to head to match up and throwing it out or you're taking the regular
1:42:19
season and throwing it at. Either way you if you take up, you
1:42:25
bring that in. And I already told you they dropped Oklahoma below Texas.
1:42:30
We beat Texas. You can't drop Oklahoma below Texas when we were at one
1:42:35
loss because we have two losses. No, no, no no, when
1:42:39
we had one loss, they dropped us below taxes. No no, no,
1:42:43
no talk. So you're saying when Oklahoma has one loss, Bowl,
1:42:51
the Bowl, the people that picked the bowlop committee, the committee. What
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I'm saying is is there any in between rock and hard place this year?
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Because you have to throw Yes, you you take Georgia, you take Michigan,
1:43:05
you take Florida State and you take Oregon. That's if they all win.
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That's my point is, is there in a bad spot this year because
1:43:15
you're either saying head to head doesn't matter or you're saying regular season doesn't.
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But what I'm saying is is if you all I'm all I'm saying is is
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you're either saying that the head to head matchups don't count or the regular season
1:43:33
don't count because because you can't head to head law. You tell me,
1:43:39
you tell me that you cannot drop Texas below Alabama. Yet oh you beat
1:43:45
Texas and they dropped, Oh you below Texas and Alabama in the committee is
1:43:53
in between the rock and a hard I think the committee, I think what
1:43:57
they're saying is is we're going to count your losses more than your win.
1:44:00
I don't have any new outro music I forgot to do, so I really
1:44:02
think if that's how you look at it, because oh, you lost and
1:44:04
dropped below Texas and they're like, wait a minute, wait, wait,
1:44:08
wait wait, your loss was worse than Texas's lost, correct at this point,
1:44:12
yeah, at this point Texas has lost and that's my worst one.
1:44:15
I said when Alabama because loss is better than Texas. So Texas, Texas
1:44:26
losing, Texas beating loss, Texas losing the Oklahoma who dropped two games,
1:44:31
is now worse than than Alabama losing to Texas just one. Yeah, you're
1:44:38
gonna look at it that way. I mean that's well, no, that's
1:44:40
how they're looking at it. I mean that's kind of what we got initially.
1:44:43
Now it all changes. I mean, who knows. I mean,
1:44:44
they can make up something different. Just like Sean talked about Ohio State coming
1:44:46
in, Well, that's bullshit because the conference champions are gonna move ahead of
1:44:49
them. They're giving Texas and Alabama the shot to go. You're getting ahead
1:44:54
of the Oho State. We're just gonna throw them right now because their loss
1:44:59
was better than the other losses. So you're saying, since Alive States only
1:45:03
lost to Michigan, it's better than Alabama's and Texas and honestly, and remember
1:45:10
it was only a six point loss. But hang on, So you're saying
1:45:13
the winds don't count, You're they're counting the losses. Say the winds count
1:45:15
too, But I'm saying they're punishing you for the losses. More, it
1:45:18
seems like it seems like we all know that Iowa State's loss is better than
1:45:25
Texas or Alabama's loss. Correct, So if you're gonna count losses, not
1:45:30
gonna be conference. So that's what's gonna keep on stay out. But if
1:45:34
you're leaning that way, that is ladies and ladies and gentlemen, let argue
1:45:41
about we're gonna apparently we're gonna come back. We're gonna do this on Wednesday.
1:45:44
I'm sorry to the wives, uh, one of those who have wives,
1:45:47
uh, because I don't have to by everybody. Thanks you, I
1:45:53
love you, lad Then as the NA