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'COOL MOM' Has Teens Young as 13 to DRINK, PERFORM SEX ACTS at 'Parties': CONVICTED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It's Friday night and it's
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Speaker 1: time for a Crime Stories Friday Night special. And boy
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Speaker 1: is a special. It's the Big Dollhouse for the so
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Speaker 1: called cool mom after she throws parties and coerces miners
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Speaker 1: as young as thirteen years old to drink, get drunk
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Speaker 1: and perform sex acts. What's cool about that? Well, she
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Speaker 1: is looking at substantial jail time and she'll have time
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Speaker 1: to think about what she's done. I'm Nancy Grace. This
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us.
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Speaker 2: This defendant took advantage of children, manipulated children, her children emotionally, mentally, physically,
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Speaker 2: and did that for her own perverse reasons. And today
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Speaker 2: there's justice for what she had done.
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Speaker 1: In the last days, a jury brings down the hammer
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Speaker 1: on the so called cool mom, Shannon O'Connor, finding her
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Speaker 1: guilty of forty seven crimes, and she is facing decades
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Speaker 1: behind bars.
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Speaker 2: The charges included child endangerment, annoying and molesting a child,
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Speaker 2: dissuading witnesses from testifying, and facilitating the forcible sexual assault
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Speaker 2: from one child on another child.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Shannon O'Connor, the mom charged with hosting booze
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Speaker 1: soaked parties for teens as young as thirteen at her
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Speaker 1: mansion in Los Gato's, orchestrating sex between the youth now
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Speaker 1: looking at decade behind bars. What the hey? This woman
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Speaker 1: has a beautiful mansion, a gorgeous family everything. Why this?
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Speaker 1: I can't help but think about the movie Main Girls
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Speaker 1: with Landsay Loham and the cool mom would just let
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Speaker 1: the girls do whatever they want to. She has a
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Speaker 1: little made herself and played into drugs and alcohol and sex. Well,
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Speaker 1: art imitates life. Take a listen to our friends at NBC.
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Speaker 3: The first complaint about Shannon O'Connor to Los Gatto's High
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Speaker 3: School came from a parent in December twenty twenty. According
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Speaker 3: to internal school emails obtained exclusively by the Investigative Unit,
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Speaker 3: Shannon Bruga or O'Connor buys alcohol for teenagers. My daughter
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Speaker 3: overdosed on edibles then entering. Principal Paul Robinson responded the
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Speaker 3: same day, we will follow up on this and inform
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Speaker 3: the police. Two months later, February seventeen, a different parent
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Speaker 3: sent an assistant principal a detailed, multi page email saying
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Speaker 3: she had just filed a police report. Alleging criminal contact
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Speaker 3: by O'Connor with her child and at least five other
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Speaker 3: fourteen year old girls, as well as at least one
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Speaker 3: Fisher middle school student.
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Speaker 1: A middle school student, fourteen year old girls going to
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Speaker 1: sex and booze stoked parties, and criminal contact by the
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Speaker 1: cool mom with a girl student aged fourteen? What in
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Speaker 1: the hey with me at all Star panel to makes
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Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now? But first I
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Speaker 1: want to go to Drew Penner, investigative reporter with the
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Speaker 1: Losgatta newspaper. Drew, thank you for being with us. Who
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Speaker 1: is this quote? Cool mom? Doesn't sound cool to me,
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Speaker 1: it sounds criminal. Does she have a child?
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. This is Shannon O'Connor. And she has
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Speaker 4: other names that she's gone by in the past, Shannon brew, Chennon, Amarol.
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Speaker 4: But she is a local woman here from the Los
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Speaker 4: Gatos area and that's in Silicon Valley, and she gained
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Speaker 4: a reputation over the months for being, as you said,
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Speaker 4: someone that would have parties and someone who would invite
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Speaker 4: folks over to her house that were younger than maybe
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Speaker 4: you would invite over to your host And that's putting
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Speaker 4: it lightly.
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Speaker 1: And she does have children. She's got two teen sons,
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Speaker 1: thirteen and fifteen. And you know to doctor Angie Arnold,
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Speaker 1: renowned psychiatrist joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at Angelo Arnold MD dot com. You
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Speaker 1: heard what Drew Panter just told us that everybody in
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Speaker 1: the neighborhood knew rumor gossip. They knew what was going on,
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Speaker 1: but did anybody stop it, not until things got even
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Speaker 1: more out of hand. In addition to what Drew Pinner
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Speaker 1: told us, Angie, how many times have I told the children,
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Speaker 1: starting at a very young age, about drugs and alcohol
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Speaker 1: all the time? What it does to you? Cases I've
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Speaker 1: seen in court specifically, I remember when I was a
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Speaker 1: brand new assistant district attorney. I was taking a guilty
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Speaker 1: plea of this beautiful woman and she was taking a
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Speaker 1: plea duy HV habitual violator, And I looked around for
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Speaker 1: her family. There was no family, but I knew she
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Speaker 1: was married with three children. Alcohol cost her her stockbroker's
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Speaker 1: license that she worked so hard for, had worked her
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Speaker 1: way up the ladder in that business. She had a
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Speaker 1: horrible car crash when drunk. Her husband divorced her and
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Speaker 1: he got custody of three children because of alcohol. And
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Speaker 1: I remember she just stood there in court just like
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Speaker 1: she was numb, Like she didn't even cry. You know,
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Speaker 1: like when you take the dog to the vet and
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Speaker 1: they have to get a shot and they sit on
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Speaker 1: the table. They know something bad it's about to happen,
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Speaker 1: but they just sit there stoically. That's what she looked like.
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Speaker 1: Alcohol And this is a mom with teens throwing this
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Speaker 1: kind of party, not just alcohol, but drugs and sex.
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Speaker 5: So Niki would why would no one have said anything?
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Speaker 5: Because look at all of the other people that can
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Speaker 5: be hurt by not saying anything, starting with the offender.
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Speaker 5: She needed help?
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Speaker 1: Okay, you know why did I ask you a question?
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Speaker 1: She does not need help. She needs jail because these
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Speaker 1: aren't just wild parties. This is sex, assault, child molesstation, felony,
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Speaker 1: child endangerment. So I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: She needs help, well, she needs an a nice long
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Speaker 1: vacation in the pen in the big dollhouse so she
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Speaker 1: can think about her actions.
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Speaker 5: But Nancy, at the very least, if the neighbors knew
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Speaker 5: what was going on, and they didn't know the extent
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Speaker 5: to what was going on.
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Speaker 1: Oh please, have you ever seen Bewitched? Yes? No, have you?
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Speaker 1: And you're familiar with Gladys Kravitz, right, the nosy neighbor
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Speaker 1: who knows everything you want to tell me. These neighbors
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Speaker 1: didn't know exactly what was happening, hearing teams screaming and
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Speaker 1: cavorting in the backyard around the keg. Oh they knew,
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Speaker 1: but this is my question. Drew Penner back to Loscota newspaper, Drew,
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Speaker 1: I understand that the first complaints were made to the
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Speaker 1: school principle and did an assistant principle? Is that correct?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, this.
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Speaker 4: Has been an interesting case in our town because it's
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Speaker 4: sparked off a whole discussion around what we do, you know,
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Speaker 4: when people are having parties in their own private home.
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Speaker 4: But then it's you know, the the ramifications can spill
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Speaker 4: out into the public sphere, including as you mentioned, at
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Speaker 4: the high school. And you know, there's stories that we're
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Speaker 4: hearing and that have come out through the you know,
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Speaker 4: throughout the various discussions that we've been hearing. Is that basically,
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Speaker 4: you know, Shan O'Connor had a really good way of
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Speaker 4: manipulating the whole situation. Basically, you know, being able to
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Speaker 4: spin things one way and in fact enlisting the children
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Speaker 4: that she was inviting and many say manipulating over to
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Speaker 4: her house into kind of going on the forefront and
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Speaker 4: helping her spread false stories in order to continue her behavior.
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Speaker 4: And you know, that's something that we hear time and
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Speaker 4: time again, and you know, the extent to which perhaps
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Speaker 4: the authorities at the school should have done more. That's
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Speaker 4: been a hot button issue, spilled out over into even
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Speaker 4: the local councils come up indirectly as well. And yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's been the talk of the town.
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Speaker 1: US A really good point. I'm going to go to Annisinota,
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Speaker 1: a child grooming expert, but first let me just swing
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Speaker 1: to Sam do'ordulian. He is a renowned attorney, former La
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Speaker 1: County prosecutor, and founder of the Dordulian Law Group. You
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Speaker 1: can find him at d lawgroup dot com. Sam, thanks
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Speaker 1: for being with us, just thinking through what Drew Pinner
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Speaker 1: told us from the Lost Gotten. You know, Sam, here's
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Speaker 1: the rub, here's the fly in the ointment. So you
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Speaker 1: have the parents, they are speaking out to the wrong person.
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Speaker 1: They contact the school principal and the assistant principle. So
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Speaker 1: do they get the idea they're doing the right thing,
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Speaker 1: and how much can a school really control what students
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Speaker 1: or quote cool moms are doing off school premises. Sam Drdoulian, Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Nancy, And actually that's that's a good question. Why didn't
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Speaker 7: they call the police? And I think it's a lot
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Speaker 7: to do with who this person is. If this was
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Speaker 7: a male, if this was a male, if this is
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Speaker 7: a teacher, if this was a coach, a male coach,
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Speaker 7: I think people would react differently because she's a woman,
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Speaker 7: because she's a mom. In particular, I think they're treating
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Speaker 7: it differently. They're contacting the school instead of contacting the police.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you brought up the word grooming. This is
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Speaker 7: the definition of grooming. It doesn't have to be a
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Speaker 7: male teacher or a coach or a priest. She was
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Speaker 7: grooming not just the children, but the other parents, the
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Speaker 7: whole community with her conduct. So I think that a
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Speaker 7: lot has to do with who she is as as
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Speaker 7: a woman and as a mom.
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Speaker 1: Oh you know, you just struck me to the core
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Speaker 1: as a mom, because you know, Anna Sonota going from
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Speaker 1: Sam Dordoulian, doctor Angie Arnold, Andrew Panner. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you who Anna Sinoda is childreaming expert, clinical social worker,
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Speaker 1: author of Dutton du Groom Understanding How a child becomes
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Speaker 1: a target, and you can find her at Annasnoda dot com. Anna,
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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our friend
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Speaker 1: Amanda del Castillo.
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Speaker 8: Shannon O'Connor, the Lost Gotis mother, was accused of throwing
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Speaker 8: drunken parties where she encouraged young teens to participate in
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Speaker 8: sex acts, sometimes non consensual and sometimes while she watched.
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Speaker 8: The teens, mostly fourteen and fifteen years old, included her
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Speaker 8: own son. O'Connor would use Snapchat or text to invite
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Speaker 8: them to her home, warning the teens to keep silent
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Speaker 8: or she could go to jail.
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Speaker 1: It's not exactly your classic grooming, but it has all
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Speaker 1: the elements of a classic grooming, luring, desensitizing the victim,
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Speaker 1: where this little fourteen year old girl says, well everybody
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Speaker 1: else is doing it. The mom is saying, they're watching
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Speaker 1: me having a sex act with her son, so maybe
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Speaker 1: it's not as bad as I thought because the moms
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Speaker 1: it's okay, and then getting them getting a vow of
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Speaker 1: silence warning them not to speak out.
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Speaker 9: Fancy. This is a gruesome gruesome example of grooming, and
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Speaker 9: just so that everybody's on the same page. Grooming is
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Speaker 9: the intentional and selective process of using assumed trust to
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Speaker 9: gain access and space with an identified prey. And it
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Speaker 9: is a process of entrapping a child. So we've got
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Speaker 9: to set the trap with compliments. These children were selected.
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Speaker 9: She was pre vetting the girls who are attending these parties.
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Speaker 9: Then you've got to bait the trap with favors, so
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Speaker 9: giving the kids things they want, like access to free
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Speaker 9: food alcohol. Then you've essentially rigged the trap with guilt.
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Speaker 9: Here are these kids who are breaking rules that their
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Speaker 9: parents have for them. And then you've got to keep
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Speaker 9: that trap shut with threats. You can't tell anybody, keep
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Speaker 9: this a secret. So worse than being a cool mom,
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Speaker 9: she was perceived and the community defaulted to her being
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Speaker 9: a safe mom. And she was the one who was
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Speaker 9: communicating with other parents to confirm that she would be
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Speaker 9: in attendance and she would be supervising. And this is
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Speaker 9: why parents need to keep a keen eye to show
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Speaker 9: up at places where their kids are going and when
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Speaker 9: in doubt, verified, even if it means showing.
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Speaker 1: Up crime stories With Nancy Grace, most legal legals thought
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Speaker 1: it was a foregone conclusion O'Connor would be convicted of
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Speaker 1: at least one or two counts of furnishing alcohol to
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Speaker 1: a minor, but she was found guilty on forty seven charges,
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Speaker 1: including sex penetration of an intoxicated victim, let that sink
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Speaker 1: in for influencing a child to engage in sex activity
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Speaker 1: with another child on multiple occasions. It was a four
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Speaker 1: month trial. What did we learn?
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Speaker 2: It was a long wait. It was a long trial.
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Speaker 2: There was a lot of hardship and pain and suffering.
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Speaker 2: But with the jury's verdict today, there is now justice.
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Speaker 1: What happened? Michael Boton joining me former NYPD sergeant, detective
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Speaker 1: Squad supervisor, a special Victims unit owner, our First Rate
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Speaker 1: Investigations and that specializes an adult and child survivor civil
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Speaker 1: cases at First Rate Investigations and consulting dot com. That
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Speaker 1: is a mouthful, Michael Bock. I want you to change
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Speaker 1: that website immediately. Hey, Michael, I know you've dealt with
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Speaker 1: a lot of cases where adults molested children. I rarely
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Speaker 1: see I don't know that I've ever seen. I got
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Speaker 1: to think this thing through. I've seen female sex predators
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Speaker 1: on children, but for a month, I'm a cool mom.
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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Amy Polar, who I adore. Amy
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Speaker 1: Polar who played the cool mom June George in Mean Girls. Hilarious.
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Speaker 1: But this is not funny in the least, Michael bog
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Speaker 1: have you ever seen a case where the mom lures
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Speaker 1: in the child's victims to have sex with tea boys
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Speaker 1: while she sits there and watches.
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Speaker 6: It's not a frequent occurrence, especially inside the city. I'd
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Speaker 6: say this is probably more of a suburban issue than
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Speaker 6: it would be inside the city with apartments and stuff,
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Speaker 6: So it's not a common case that we would come
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Speaker 6: across in the city.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever come across anything quite like it.
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Speaker 1: And these people, Michael Bock, I mean, this is Silicon
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Speaker 1: Valley with all of that tech money just rolling around.
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Speaker 1: The median income in this area is one hundred, one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars. That's the meaning, that's
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Speaker 1: big money. Yeah, they've got a lot of money to
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Speaker 1: roll around in and a lot of money to throw
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Speaker 1: parties with for children. I mean, doctor Angie, you hear
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Speaker 1: Michael Buck speaking. What frame of mind is that where
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Speaker 1: a grown woman gets sex gratification off of watching little
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Speaker 1: girls and teen boys have sex in her home.
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Speaker 5: Oh, Nancy, this is such a horrible subject, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but I was expecting a little something a little
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Speaker 1: more clinical from you than this is horrible. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: know it's horrible. I can ask anybody on the street that, doctor, Angie,
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Speaker 1: I know it's horrible. But what is what kind of
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Speaker 1: a criminal mind?
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Speaker 5: Is that these kind of people can suffer from a
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Speaker 5: very low self esteem?
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Speaker 1: Oh, dear Lord in Heaven, are low self esteem?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 5: I mean, Nancy, this is you ask for a definition.
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Speaker 1: She's a child molester?
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Speaker 5: Well, okay, but we have to kind of look at
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Speaker 5: all of the things that can. First of all, female
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Speaker 5: child predators are on the rare side.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 5: They can have antisocial personality disorder, they can have very
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Speaker 5: poor social skills. They can have PTSD from something or another.
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Speaker 1: Don't even try to make me feel badly for her
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Speaker 1: rejection low self esteem? I am about child molester. Here
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Speaker 1: is doctor Jackie, and you're waving a sign saying voyeurism. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what that is? Right? Doctor and Jimmy, you
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Speaker 1: are the strange now to be a psychiatrist. Don't you
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Speaker 1: have to be a medical doctor and a psychiatrist.
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Speaker 5: I'm a medical doctor, okay.
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Speaker 1: And I'm having to tell you the word voyeurism.
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Speaker 5: And Nancy, I've had to treat women who were female
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Speaker 5: sexual predators. I've treated only a very few, because only
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Speaker 5: a very few exempts.
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Speaker 1: What is wrong with them? Not that the state has
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Speaker 1: to prise the mode or kick around inside the mind
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Speaker 1: of a perpetrator. But it's very hard for me to
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Speaker 1: take in. I know it exists, but it's hard for
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Speaker 1: me to take in.
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Speaker 5: But doesn't it also sound like this woman, this particular criminal,
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Speaker 5: was exerting a lot of control over her victims. They
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Speaker 5: were very young. She's forty seven, they're thirteen and fourteen
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Speaker 5: years old. You know, she's got to be getting some
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Speaker 5: sort of sexual pleasure out of this at the very baseline.
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Speaker 1: I've already said that. That was my question that I
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Speaker 1: formed for you. What grown woman enjoys watching little children
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Speaker 1: have forced sex?
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Speaker 5: A very thick grown woman.
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Speaker 1: Once again, I knew that myself, and I am not
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Speaker 1: an MD.
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Speaker 5: Nancy, she may have been abused in her past.
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Speaker 1: Oh dear great, you know what, Just go ahead and
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Speaker 1: cut her mic because all you're doing is wine wine
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Speaker 1: wine about how badly this one will I still hear her?
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Speaker 5: Hello the woman that I'm.
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Speaker 1: Going to give you a moment to reconsider your opinion,
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Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold, What more do we know? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our forens at kro N four.
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Speaker 10: O'Connor has two sons, ages thirteen and fifteen, the same
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Speaker 10: age range that the victims are in this case. Deputies
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Speaker 10: in Idaho determined her sons were in imminent danger and
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Speaker 10: placed them under the custody of the Idaho Department of
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Speaker 10: Health and Welfare. Law enforcement first began to investigate O'Connor
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Speaker 10: after a boy was injured when he fell from her
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Speaker 10: SUV in the Los Gatto's High School parking lot. The
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Speaker 10: district attorneys said O'Connor went to great lengths to keep
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Speaker 10: the party's secret from other parents, law enforcement, and her
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Speaker 10: own husband. She would only invite teens over to the
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Speaker 10: house for a wild night of drinking when she knew
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Speaker 10: her husband would not be home. She communicated with students
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Speaker 10: using Snapchat.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't realize, is drey Pinner she was married
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Speaker 1: and the husband knew nothing about what was going on.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's kind of an open question, and you know,
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Speaker 4: there's some evidence that shows that she has, you know,
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Speaker 4: seemed to be hiding the beer cans or whatnot from
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Speaker 4: her husband prior to him getting home, so he didn't
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Speaker 4: find out about these parties that were going on. On
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Speaker 4: the other hand, there does seem to be you know,
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Speaker 4: a close connection between them. They are co defendants in
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Speaker 4: a previous action and you know, so that is something
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Speaker 4: that is still coming out.
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Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to believe that he had
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Speaker 1: no idea what was going on. Guys, I want you
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Speaker 1: to listen to the Samdordulian sex assault lawyer, former LA
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Speaker 1: County sex crimes prosecutor. Now, this is going down in Walsgatta's,
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Speaker 1: California and and a very prestigious community. Parties also took
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Speaker 1: place in Santa Cruz and Lake Tahoe, where the cool
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Speaker 1: mom Shannon oak Connor would ply fourteen to fifteen year
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Speaker 1: olds with vodka and then hand out condoms, encourages my
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Speaker 1: encouraging miners to have sex, and laughing when the teens
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Speaker 1: would engage in sex acts, many of which allegedly weren't
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Speaker 1: non consensual. Take a listen to our cut four KGO.
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Speaker 8: Investigators say the party spanned from June twenty twenty to
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Speaker 8: May twenty twenty one, and often involved O'Connor pushing the
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Speaker 8: teens to drink until they became sick or blacked out.
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Speaker 8: The DA's office as some of the assaults against the
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Speaker 8: young victims happened while they were drunk. Document show teens
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Speaker 8: also told authorities drinking led to heavy vomiting, a broken finger,
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Speaker 8: and a girl reporting show almost drowned in a hot tub.
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Speaker 8: In a release, DA Jeff Rosen said it took a
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Speaker 8: lot of brave children to come forward and to untangle
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Speaker 8: this deeply disturbing case. In another case, the DA's office
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Speaker 8: says O'Connor let a team drive her as v in
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Speaker 8: the Los Gattus High parking lot while two other teens
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Speaker 8: held onto the back, one fell off knocked unconscious.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Also take a listen to Amy Larson Kron, a.
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Speaker 10: Forty seven year old mom, is accused of throwing sex
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Speaker 10: parties at her Los Gattos mansion. She pressured underage teenagers
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Speaker 10: to binge, drink, and encourage boys to have consensual and
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Speaker 10: non consensual sex with girls. According to the Santa Clara
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Speaker 10: County District Attorney's Office. Investigators said dozens of Los Gattos
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Speaker 10: High school students went to Shannon O'Connor's disturbing parties between
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Speaker 10: June of twenty twenty and May of this year. The
22:39
Speaker 10: mom recently moved to Adda county in Idaho, where she
22:42
Speaker 10: continued to invite teens over to her new house. Detectives
22:46
Speaker 10: told me that when they went to the house to
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Speaker 10: arrest her last weekend, there were twelve underage teenagers with her,
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Speaker 10: most of whom had spent the night.
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Speaker 1: So let me understand this, Drew Pinner. The students would
22:58
Speaker 1: actually spend the night in the house.
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Speaker 4: Well, some of these parties would go on for an
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Speaker 4: awful long time, and you know, I at one point
23:06
Speaker 4: I tried knocking on the doors of some of the neighbors' homes,
23:09
Speaker 4: and you know, they didn't really want to say too
23:11
Speaker 4: much to me about what they had seen or hadn't seen.
23:14
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, if people felt it's
23:17
Speaker 4: guilty for not saying things sooner, or you know, maybe
23:20
Speaker 4: they did keep certain things under wrap. But you know,
23:23
Speaker 4: there's definitely a lot of questioning, even by Shannon O'Connor,
23:28
Speaker 4: who was, you know, googling, as we have reported, you know,
23:31
Speaker 4: things like what to do with the concussion and a
23:34
Speaker 4: teenager and you know, kind of concussion cause eye problems,
23:38
Speaker 4: and you know, investigating, you know people and investigators seem
23:41
Speaker 4: to think that that may be related to that car
23:44
Speaker 4: incident exactly you had just heard about there on that
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Speaker 4: news report.
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Speaker 1: Guys, it's not the first time a mom has broken
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Speaker 1: the law in order to be the cool mom at
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Speaker 1: the school. Take a list to our cut.
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Speaker 11: Twenty seven years old, Cherylyn McDonald wanted to be known
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Speaker 11: as the cool mom. She wanted the kids to call her, share,
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Speaker 11: invited boys to be a part of family outings, and more.
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Speaker 11: The former cool mom is now behind bars, charged with
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Speaker 11: engaging in sexual activity with a miner, encouraging sex among miners,
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Speaker 11: six felony charges of loud and illascivious battery, and three
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Speaker 11: counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child. The
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Speaker 11: cool mom party came to an end when a real
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Speaker 11: mom saw that her teenage son was getting text messages
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Speaker 11: from McDonald. That real mom questioned her son, found out
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Speaker 11: about teens playing beer pong and McDonald's, and turned it
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Speaker 11: all over the police. The investigation is ongoing and McDonald
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Speaker 11: could face additional charges.
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Speaker 1: McDonald not alone. Take a listen hour cut twenty our
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Speaker 1: friends at WSB.
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Speaker 12: Georgia mother is facing charges after official essays she hosted
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Speaker 12: a party with drugs and alcohol for a teenage daughter
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Speaker 12: and her friends. According to an incident report, Rachel Lynn
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Speaker 12: Linhart's sponsor from Alcoholics Anonymous, came to officials about the incident,
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Speaker 12: and the woman said Lenhart allowed a group of miners
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Speaker 12: to drink and smoke marijuana at her home in Evans, Georgia,
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Speaker 12: near Augusta. The woman claimed linn Hart played naked twister
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Speaker 12: with the teens and engaged in sexual relations with an
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Speaker 12: eighteen year old and her daughter's sixteen year old boyfriend.
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Speaker 12: She's charged with two counts of contributing to the delinquency
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Speaker 12: of a miner and has been released on bond.
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Speaker 1: Sam Georduley and joining a sex assault lawyer, former LA
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Speaker 1: County sex crimes prosecutor. Naked twister with a bunch of
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Speaker 1: teen girls and boys in your home. I mean I
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Speaker 1: cringed when I heard doctor Angel Arnold talking about Oh,
25:42
Speaker 1: she's got low self esteem, she's probably been rejected. Don't care.
25:48
Speaker 1: This is child molestation. I mean Dordolian do you have
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Speaker 1: any children.
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Speaker 7: I have two children, in fact, wondering about the same
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Speaker 7: age as these kids at.
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Speaker 1: Thirteen going to the mom's house down the street, and
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Speaker 1: then to find out later she was egged into sex
26:06
Speaker 1: acts and given drugs and alcohol by the so called
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Speaker 1: cool mom. I would do a backflip.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't even imagine it. And look, Nancy. In
26:14
Speaker 7: twenty five plus years I've been doing sex crimes, I
26:17
Speaker 7: haven't heard a story like this. And again, we I
26:20
Speaker 7: think a lot has to do The reason why this
26:22
Speaker 7: continued and it was allowed to fester and she was
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Speaker 7: allowed to do all these things is because of her
26:27
Speaker 7: status as a mom, as a woman. I've prosecuted a
26:30
Speaker 7: lot of these cases. I've tried in civil court, a
26:33
Speaker 7: lot of these cases. You don't see a lot of
26:35
Speaker 7: sexual predators who are women. I do have them, I've
26:38
Speaker 7: had them before, nothing like this. And we have an
26:41
Speaker 7: inherent trust of mothers, don't we. You know, you believe
26:44
Speaker 7: you want to believe, especially since she's a mom of
26:46
Speaker 7: someone a child of your child's age, She's not going
26:50
Speaker 7: to hurt them. She's going to protect them. That's what
26:52
Speaker 7: we all want to believe. And I think that belief
26:55
Speaker 7: allowed this to continue and the reason why, you know,
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Speaker 7: parents are going to the school instead of the police.
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Speaker 7: We have a different impression of female sexual offenders, but
27:04
Speaker 7: they're just as dangerous as we see in this particular kick.
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Speaker 1: Well. You know an interesting point, samd Or Julian f
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Speaker 1: a dad was throwing a party. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: many teen girls parents would even let them go.
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I certainly wouldn't let my daughter go. I
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Speaker 7: have a distrust of male O.
27:24
Speaker 1: Ha, double Lno. I say you're not going to a
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Speaker 1: party at some pervy dad's house. That's not happening. Ooh okay, cringe.
27:33
Speaker 1: You know I want to go back to doctor Angeley Arnold.
27:36
Speaker 1: I guess we can turn our mic back on. You know,
27:40
Speaker 1: you've given me just enough information over the years to
27:43
Speaker 1: throw something back at you. You're talking about how she
27:47
Speaker 1: has low self esteem and low self worth and was
27:51
Speaker 1: probably rejected in her life. I assume the next thing
27:55
Speaker 1: you're gonna say is this is a desperate cry for help.
27:57
Speaker 1: How about a manipulative narcissist with no conscience? Would that
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Speaker 1: she's it?
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Speaker 5: Yes? It would, Yes, it would, Nancy. And I'll tell
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Speaker 5: you something else. The reason nobody's calling and reporting her
28:11
Speaker 5: is because the research has shown that if you report
28:16
Speaker 5: that you have done abused by a female more times
28:21
Speaker 5: than not, you are not believed.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think of that. You're absolutely correct. And guess
28:27
Speaker 1: what else gave her the en disha of responsibility and
28:34
Speaker 1: her mom's status secured. She's living at a four point
28:38
Speaker 1: seven million dollar mansion. I bet they've got a pool.
28:43
Speaker 1: I know they've got a hot tob because one girl
28:45
Speaker 1: almost drowned in their hot tob drunk.
28:47
Speaker 13: Sure, four point.
28:48
Speaker 1: Seven million dollars home up there in Los Gato's a
28:52
Speaker 1: quote tech savvy predator who taught the teens to lie
28:58
Speaker 1: using gifts in order to bait the girls. WHOA wait,
29:03
Speaker 1: we haven't even touched on that, Drew Panter. Drew Panter,
29:06
Speaker 1: investigative reporter at the Loos gotten what kind of gifts
29:09
Speaker 1: did she use to bait the teen girls?
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, if you know the Bay area at all,
29:17
Speaker 4: you know that you know just over the hill, you
29:19
Speaker 4: know you've got Santa Cruz and that's a pretty pretty
29:22
Speaker 4: awesome destination to go to, and people like going on
29:25
Speaker 4: trips there. Same with Tahoe. So if you get invited
29:28
Speaker 4: along to trip to one of those places. I mean,
29:30
Speaker 4: who wouldn't want to go. Keep in mind, these are
29:32
Speaker 4: kids that don't have access to just head on on
29:35
Speaker 4: a weekend trip on their own, you know, And you know,
29:38
Speaker 4: so that's that's one thing, you know, getting these the
29:41
Speaker 4: alcohol supplied. I mean, that's not exactly easy when you're
29:44
Speaker 4: near a kid, and you know. I just I think
29:47
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of this affection that's been showered
29:50
Speaker 4: on them as well by miss O'Connor, as we hear
29:54
Speaker 4: and from some of the stories that we've been reporting on,
29:58
Speaker 4: including you know that that may have been a technique,
30:01
Speaker 4: this flattery in order to build trust in bonds Panner.
30:07
Speaker 4: One other thing I wanted to say, I wanted to
30:09
Speaker 4: say too, was was just that if you don't mind,
30:13
Speaker 4: was just that it's I think that we have to
30:15
Speaker 4: keep in mind that this is this is someone that uh,
30:19
Speaker 4: you know, she had on her phone. It turns out,
30:22
Speaker 4: as we've now reported, like a video of a girl
30:26
Speaker 4: saying that, you know, talking about her own body image.
30:29
Speaker 4: And we don't know if this is someone she knew
30:31
Speaker 4: or is something she downlonged from TikTok, But this is
30:34
Speaker 4: pointing to the fact that you know she had not
30:37
Speaker 4: just a desire to help her own child, perhaps hook up,
30:42
Speaker 4: but you know there's some question around was she maybe
30:47
Speaker 4: looking for having a let's say, a bad interest in
30:50
Speaker 4: sixteen year olds. For example, one of her the searches
30:52
Speaker 4: on her phone was hot sixteen year old teenage girls
30:57
Speaker 4: and prettiest sixteen year old girl.
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Speaker 1: So called cool mom not so cool now looking at
31:03
Speaker 1: decades behind bars after a booze fueled party, actually a
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Speaker 1: series of parties for children. What happened in O'Connor's mansion.
31:15
Speaker 1: We know that one young girl, who is going only
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Speaker 1: by the name Jane Doe eight, says that cool Mom
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Speaker 1: O'Connor quote tore my life apart. I've suffered and had
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Speaker 1: to deal with the reputation of being quote the girl
31:28
Speaker 1: that got raped. I will live my high school years
31:31
Speaker 1: with this cloud over me. Victims say that O'Connor befriended
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Speaker 1: them through her children and social media when they were
31:39
Speaker 1: just freshmen at Los Gato's High This Jane do eight says,
31:44
Speaker 1: Shannon does not have a conscience. She's a con artist.
31:47
Speaker 1: I will never have the life I once had, and
31:50
Speaker 1: neither should she. She says that O'Connor would have boys
31:55
Speaker 1: get drunk and then drunkenly sex assault the girl while
32:01
Speaker 1: O'Connor watched. One of these girls, Jane Doe nine, actually
32:07
Speaker 1: had to take out a protection order against O'Connor after
32:11
Speaker 1: she realized O'Connor had been following her around with no
32:15
Speaker 1: headlights on. The girl still has nightmares today. One girl
32:21
Speaker 1: says that O'Connor moved into her town and the little
32:25
Speaker 1: girl got twenty seven calls with no caller ID, but
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Speaker 1: with Shannon O'Connor on the other end breathing into the phone.
32:33
Speaker 1: Does anybody have a concern about what took so long
32:37
Speaker 1: to bring this woman to justice? Here's another theory in
32:41
Speaker 1: addition to jury pitters theory that she was sexually interested
32:46
Speaker 1: in young teen girls and boys. Did she actually want
32:50
Speaker 1: to be a child again? Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut twenty eight WNYT camerom.
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Speaker 14: Durham School District Superintendent Anthony Taibi says thirty two year
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Speaker 14: old Michael Ann Goodrich came in to register for classes
33:05
Speaker 14: on December nineteenth. He says administrators immediately felt something was off,
33:09
Speaker 14: but Taybe says, under the McKinney Vento Act, the district
33:13
Speaker 14: had to admit Goodrich immediately because she claimed to be homeless.
33:16
Speaker 7: She did attend school for one day, and she did,
33:21
Speaker 7: in fact right the school was to and from school
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Speaker 7: that day.
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Speaker 9: He says.
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Speaker 14: Goodrich was absent on the twenty first, and then the
33:27
Speaker 14: holiday break began the following week. She was arrested on
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Speaker 14: the twenty eighth and charged with offering a false for failing,
33:34
Speaker 14: falsifying business records, and criminal trespassing and more.
33:37
Speaker 1: In our cut twenty five from APY, a.
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Speaker 13: Thirty year old sex offender who posed as a child
33:43
Speaker 13: has pleaded guilty to seven criminal charges and will now
33:46
Speaker 13: serve at least seventy years in prison. Neil Havens Roderick
33:50
Speaker 13: the Second faced twenty eight counts, but pleaded guilty to
33:53
Speaker 13: only a quarter of them, according to a plea agreement document.
33:56
Speaker 13: Two of those charges stem from when he posed as
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Speaker 13: a twelve year old boy and enrolled in this Arizona
34:02
Speaker 13: charter school in January two thousand and seven.
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Speaker 15: If it's a facade he's been putting on, he's very
34:07
Speaker 15: good at it because he obviously fooled educators. He fooled
34:11
Speaker 15: trained and experienced investigators. So if it's a facade. Then
34:15
Speaker 15: he's an absolute magician.
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Speaker 1: So this spans I understand, dreaprinter from Los Gato's to Idaho.
34:22
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
34:23
Speaker 4: So it is true that what happened is that as
34:27
Speaker 4: the investigation was progressing into the conduct of Shannon O'Connor,
34:33
Speaker 4: she leaves, she goes to Idaho. And you know, you
34:37
Speaker 4: might say, Okay, maybe that's a nice coincidence or whatever
34:40
Speaker 4: for her, but you know, the truth is is that
34:44
Speaker 4: we're starting to see that she's very aware of the
34:47
Speaker 4: fact that you know that it's there's different rules when
34:51
Speaker 4: you have authority, local authorities investigating year, it's harder for
34:54
Speaker 4: them to reach across state lines. And in fact, at
34:59
Speaker 4: one point she's she's Internet searching io Idaho Statute of
35:04
Speaker 4: Limitations Criminal She's going, hey, can I get prosecuted in
35:08
Speaker 4: California if I live in Idaho.
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Speaker 1: She's very savvy, Dre what about it, Sam Doordoulian, She's
35:15
Speaker 1: looking for statue limitations? How long can they prosecute me
35:18
Speaker 1: in another jurisdiction for this?
35:20
Speaker 7: She's incredibly manipulative and it's just terrifying. The other parts
35:23
Speaker 7: that you mentioned about the whole stalking part of it,
35:26
Speaker 7: I worked the stocking unit as well, and I can
35:28
Speaker 7: tell you and working with the DA's office prosecute all
35:31
Speaker 7: sorts of criminals, there's only two that I was really
35:33
Speaker 7: truly frightened up. Hardcore game members and stalkers. And she
35:37
Speaker 7: seems to not only just be a sexual predator, but
35:40
Speaker 7: it has to go stalking elements on top. And it's
35:42
Speaker 7: just terrifying that she would move to a different state
35:45
Speaker 7: be so manipulative. And there's some reference to her moving
35:49
Speaker 7: to another state where there's one of the victims actually lived.
35:53
Speaker 7: Terrifying what this woman was doing. And to suggest that
35:55
Speaker 7: the husband had no idea about all of this, I
35:58
Speaker 7: think it's just foolish. Absolutely well, we.
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Speaker 1: Do know that he has recently filed for divorce. And
36:04
Speaker 1: do you blame him? What about it? Doctor Angie Arnold,
36:07
Speaker 1: psychiatrist out of Atlanta. I gave you two examples of many,
36:11
Speaker 1: many where adults have actually enrolled in middle school and
36:15
Speaker 1: high school posing as teens to be aroundings. It's like
36:18
Speaker 1: they want to be a teen. Is that some sort
36:21
Speaker 1: of a designated ailment?
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Speaker 5: You know, Nancy, I don't that ailment doesn't necessarily have
36:26
Speaker 5: a name. It all goes under the it's all under
36:29
Speaker 5: the guise of sexual predators, and it's just another way
36:32
Speaker 5: that they manipulate the system. I mean, Nancy, I have
36:35
Speaker 5: to wonder. I mean, there's so many things that are
36:37
Speaker 5: going on in our world right now that are predatory
36:41
Speaker 5: to children that we have to keep an eye out
36:44
Speaker 5: for all of those things.
36:45
Speaker 1: You know. I want to follow up with Anna Sonoda,
36:48
Speaker 1: child groomy expert and author of Duck Duck Groom. We're
36:52
Speaker 1: talking about various motives. Did this so called cool mom
36:57
Speaker 1: o'cnnor actually want to be a teen again? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to this and Sonoda our cut nine from kg AS.
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Speaker 16: The DA's office believe an early motive for O'Connor's alleged
37:07
Speaker 16: actions is sexual gratification. Core documents say she would use
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Speaker 16: social media to lure minors to her home, give them alcohol, condoms,
37:14
Speaker 16: and private rooms to commit sexual acts that sometimes we're
37:18
Speaker 16: not consensual.
37:19
Speaker 2: One of the crimes that we have charged involves committing
37:23
Speaker 2: the crime for sexual gratification, So we can certainly say
37:26
Speaker 2: that sexual gratification is one of the motives in this case.
37:30
Speaker 1: What about it, Anna Sinotta.
37:31
Speaker 9: Well, Nancy, I think we have to back up a
37:33
Speaker 9: second and say that all sex, all sexual acts with
37:38
Speaker 9: anyone under the age of eighteen in California aslong with Idaho,
37:43
Speaker 9: is always non consensual. These children don't even have the
37:47
Speaker 9: ability to consent to sex. So let's get that on
37:50
Speaker 9: the table. First of all, I think one of the
37:53
Speaker 9: things we have to keep in mind, sixty six percent
37:56
Speaker 9: of child sex abuse victims are between the ages of
37:59
Speaker 9: twelve and seven. This is a ripe atmosphere. This woman
38:04
Speaker 9: took her position. It's easy to impress teens. She was likable,
38:10
Speaker 9: she was powerful, and she was popular. She was providing money, alcohol,
38:17
Speaker 9: Everything was free to these kids. We don't know the
38:19
Speaker 9: socioeconomics of the children who are in that position, and
38:22
Speaker 9: we know that there were no other authority figures. She
38:25
Speaker 9: always set it up so that she was the sole adult,
38:29
Speaker 9: and she convinced other adults to trust her to supervise,
38:33
Speaker 9: protect and prevent any damage, and she did nothing of
38:36
Speaker 9: the sort. Instead, she was pretending that she was forever
38:39
Speaker 9: twenty one, if you will, and disregarding any sort of
38:43
Speaker 9: obligation as an adult or as an authority figure.
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Speaker 1: So would you say, Anna Sonoda that she has some
38:52
Speaker 1: sort of an age regression mental ailment or as the
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Speaker 1: motive here, or do you believe it's for her pure
39:04
Speaker 1: sex gratification or so somehow she can be the quote
39:08
Speaker 1: cool mom.
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Speaker 9: I actually don't think it matters. Why.
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't matter.
39:12
Speaker 9: Why we're so fixated on why somebody would do something.
39:17
Speaker 9: The message that listeners need to get out of this
39:20
Speaker 9: example is that people who are entrusted with your child,
39:25
Speaker 9: as long as you send them into environments in which
39:28
Speaker 9: they have space and access away from proper supervision, the
39:33
Speaker 9: highest risk environment your child can ever be in is
39:36
Speaker 9: your home or someone else's home. So if these parents
39:40
Speaker 9: had just eliminated the house parties, this wasn't happening at school,
39:45
Speaker 9: This wasn't happening at church, This wasn't happening in the
39:48
Speaker 9: local playground. This is happening at her home. Let's all
39:52
Speaker 9: wake up to the reality that our homes, and when
39:55
Speaker 9: we allow our children to go to other people's homes,
39:58
Speaker 9: that is the highest risk environment. So honestly, I don't
40:02
Speaker 9: care what reason she had for acting like a teen
40:05
Speaker 9: other than grooming and looking cool and having access and
40:10
Speaker 9: then suddenly being the one almost like a big sister
40:13
Speaker 9: with a proper id. Here are these kids who are
40:17
Speaker 9: trying to test the boundaries because that is the appropriate
40:20
Speaker 9: developmental stage that they are going through in their own adolescents.
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Speaker 1: Jane Doe too did not want to testify, claiming she
40:28
Speaker 1: wants to quote forget this ever happened, But her mother
40:31
Speaker 1: spoke out, saying she's not here because she doesn't want
40:34
Speaker 1: Shannon O'Connor to own one more minute of her life.
40:37
Speaker 1: My daughter is not here because she's busy doing what
40:40
Speaker 1: kids their junior years should be doing, studying for AP tests, SATs,
40:45
Speaker 1: prom dress fitting, dreaming about colleges. Her life will never
40:49
Speaker 1: be the same crime stories with Nancy Grace. In court,
41:04
Speaker 1: Shannon O'Connor tried to look like a conservative librarian and
41:08
Speaker 1: a black jacket with a ponytail done up in the
41:10
Speaker 1: back of her head. At times, she would look demurely
41:14
Speaker 1: at the judge and then back down to her lap
41:19
Speaker 1: in front of her. It didn't work. The jury saw
41:23
Speaker 1: through the act and convicted her and had nothing to
41:26
Speaker 1: do with her demeanor and had everything to do with
41:29
Speaker 1: the facts. What do we know?
41:31
Speaker 2: Defendant Shannon O'Connor was convicted of more than sixty crimes
41:37
Speaker 2: against more than a dozen child victims from Los gaddos
41:44
Speaker 2: every child who testified. The jury convicted the defendant of
41:50
Speaker 2: a charge involving that child.
41:52
Speaker 1: Michael bought for an NYPD sergeant. Have you ever seen
41:55
Speaker 1: anything like it to this extent?
41:58
Speaker 6: No, it's crazy. And she knew exactly what she was
42:01
Speaker 6: doing was illegal, you know, by keeping it from the
42:05
Speaker 6: parents and conspiring with the kids to make sure I
42:07
Speaker 6: kept it from the parents. So she knew exactly what
42:09
Speaker 6: she was doing. And I do agree with your other
42:14
Speaker 6: caller that none of the acts are consensual due to age,
42:18
Speaker 6: and she's basically an accessory to a sexual assault. She's
42:22
Speaker 6: a facilitator, and she encouraged the behavior. She's just as
42:26
Speaker 6: bad as the person committing the sexual assault. And she
42:28
Speaker 6: must be getting gratification out.
42:29
Speaker 1: Of it, so much from being a cool mom not
42:32
Speaker 1: so cool behind bars? Drew Panter, what is a status
42:36
Speaker 1: O'Connor's case?
42:38
Speaker 4: Oh? Man, So this is one of those cases that
42:41
Speaker 4: just keeps going on and on. There's been many steps
42:44
Speaker 4: and we're not even really even into the preliminary inquiry yet.
42:50
Speaker 4: It was about to start the preliminary inquiry and then
42:53
Speaker 4: there was a legal maneuver that I personally wasn't familiar
42:56
Speaker 4: with until now, which is basically going to the judge
42:59
Speaker 4: and saying, hey, if I plead to all the charges,
43:03
Speaker 4: what would you give me? So that's basically the step
43:06
Speaker 4: that we are in now, where I just spoke with
43:10
Speaker 4: a parent yesterday and one of the parents told me that,
43:13
Speaker 4: you know, Shannon O'Connor has now been offered a seventeen
43:18
Speaker 4: year and four month sentence. Of course, this has not
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Speaker 4: been put on the record yet, so there is a
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Speaker 4: chance that could change before you know, before I hear next. However,
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Speaker 4: that's what if she decides to plead to everything. We're
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Speaker 4: told that she could go away for seventeen years. It
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Speaker 4: could have been as much as twenty, but who knows.
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Speaker 4: Maybe this is just a legal maneuver to draw things
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Speaker 4: out and basically start the process all over again of
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Speaker 4: the preliminary inquiry, and then if that goes forward, of course,
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Speaker 4: there could be a trial later on. And this is
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Speaker 4: all going after an earlier process to try to get
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Speaker 4: out on bail. She's currently in pre trial custody as
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Speaker 4: you heard there at the Elmwood facility there in Santa
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Speaker 4: Clara County, and basically her lawyer took that all the
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Speaker 4: way to the California Supreme Court. So a lot of
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Speaker 4: these kids, as you'd heard earlier, they're saying, you know,
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Speaker 4: I want my life back, and in fact they're saying, geez,
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Speaker 4: I want to at least be able to get through college,
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Speaker 4: you know, and be free from you know, any tormenting
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Speaker 4: from her. Of course, this is all now Shannon O'Connor,
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Speaker 4: we have to say, has not had a full chance
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Speaker 4: to amount the defense. Of course she could have, but
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Speaker 4: this is this has not gone to trial. However, from
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Speaker 4: a lot of the evidence that has come out so far,
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Speaker 4: there are justices in California and judges in the California
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Speaker 4: system that have pointed to the strong evidence as they
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Speaker 4: see it about some of the stuff that has happened.
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Speaker 4: So's be careful. But at the same time we have
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Speaker 4: to say, hey, this is one of those cases where
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Speaker 4: there is it seems to be at least some pretty
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Speaker 4: strong evidence of a lot of this behavior occurring. I
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Speaker 4: want to say one more thing really quickly, and that
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Speaker 4: is clarifying one of the comments that was meant that
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Speaker 4: was made earlier, and I believe one of the victims
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Speaker 4: had said, you know, I'm known as the girl who
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Speaker 4: was raped. I believe that's the same person that followed
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Speaker 4: that statement up by saying, hey, that's not even my allegation.
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Speaker 4: Now that's not to say that she believes that didn't
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Speaker 4: happen to other girls or possibly boys, We don't know.
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Speaker 4: But what the point is is that we also have
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Speaker 4: a responsibility as a community in a society to be
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Speaker 4: careful with how we look at how these situations play out,
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Speaker 4: because you know, we don't want a victim. See they
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Speaker 4: need to be seen as victims for what happened to them,
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Speaker 4: and they shouldn't be tarnished with any kind of negative reputation.
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Speaker 1: All the crimes occurred at the property O'Connor owned with
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Speaker 1: her tech executive husband, Robert amerll there in Los Gato's,
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Speaker 1: a very very exclusive area in northern California, but also
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Speaker 1: town rentals in Santa Cruz and Lake Tahoe. What is
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Speaker 1: wrong with this woman? Victims describe being lured to the
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Speaker 1: parties over social media and by text to quote hang
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Speaker 1: out at get togethers, some enticed with the promise of
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Speaker 1: flying on a private jet. What was she thinking? There
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Speaker 1: is no doubt in my mind that O'Connor is furiously
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Speaker 1: planning her appeal as we go to air, we wait
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Speaker 1: as justice unfals Nancy Grace crime story, signing off IF
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Speaker 1: my Friend