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- 0:00Speaker 1: Day I was supposed to sign my leads and my
- 0:01Speaker 1: business partner that I had been meeting with for months
- 0:03Speaker 1: didn't show up to the architect paying.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Him up front running off with my money, and the.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Contractors paying them in advance, not knowing any better, they
- 0:10Speaker 1: running off with the money.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Explain exactly what a salon suite is and why it's
- 0:14Speaker 3: becoming so popular.
- 0:15Speaker 2: It's really like real estate in the hearing beauty industry.
- 0:18Speaker 3: For somebody else they realize that they want to have
- 0:20Speaker 3: a salon suite. What's the first thing that they have
- 0:22Speaker 3: to do.
- 0:22Speaker 1: You want to make sure it makes sense because in
- 0:24Speaker 1: this business model there is a cat. Once our suites
- 0:26Speaker 1: are full, they're full, So you want to make sure
- 0:28Speaker 1: it makes sense at a one hundred percent capacity, ninety percent,
- 0:30Speaker 1: eighty percent.
- 0:31Speaker 2: What does it look like if you have five sweets empty?
- 0:33Speaker 4: I'm wondering what are the expenses as the person who
- 0:36Speaker 4: owns the building or did you not own the building?
- 0:38Speaker 5: At first?
- 0:38Speaker 1: I say it's pros and constant both. When you hear
- 0:40Speaker 1: people say I would never put money into a building
- 0:42Speaker 1: I don't own, but I always look at what you
- 0:44Speaker 1: get out of it. So if I put one hundred
- 0:45Speaker 1: k into a building, but I'm making a quarter million
- 0:47Speaker 1: and I don't want to own.
- 0:48Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
- 0:48Speaker 6: How much does it cost for the average build up.
- 0:50Speaker 2: A sweet spot to start? It's like eighty to one
- 0:52Speaker 2: hundred k.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Beauty professionals make money, but they don't really ever generate
- 0:56Speaker 3: like real wealth.
- 0:57Speaker 6: So what's the mistake.
- 0:58Speaker 1: These stylists are off the chain with their attitudes. It's
- 1:00Speaker 1: like they think we need them, when in reality they
- 1:03Speaker 1: need the clients.
- 1:03Speaker 4: You get people information, they execute on, information that changes
- 1:07Speaker 4: their life.
- 1:07Speaker 5: What's that like for you?
- 1:08Speaker 1: It's kind of dope to be able to be the
- 1:09Speaker 1: other people what I wish I had when I was
- 1:11Speaker 1: growing up, because man if I could have just had
- 1:13Speaker 1: one person to call to ask a question, I would
- 1:14Speaker 1: have paid anything.
- 1:17Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back. Yeah by special episode. Absolutely, Yes, yes, yes, we.
- 1:22Speaker 6: Got somebody that's on been making making a lot of waves.
- 1:26Speaker 4: You know, we've been run to this person a little bit,
- 1:29Speaker 4: uh in atlah and finally you're here with us.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Finally we did it.
- 1:36Speaker 6: Appreciate McKinney. Yes, they can a sway, they can a
- 1:39Speaker 6: sway to pro. That's right.
- 1:41Speaker 5: Don't forget the pro.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Don't forget the bro So Salon Sweet extraordinary owner, the
- 1:47Speaker 3: first black person to actually franchise a Salon Sweet business.
- 1:52Speaker 6: Yep.
- 1:53Speaker 3: And you teach people about salon sweets and I actually
- 1:55Speaker 3: know somebody that took your course really or they went
- 1:58Speaker 3: to one of your events, so yeah, yeah, yeah, so
- 2:02Speaker 3: they were like, nah, she's legit.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Definitely les.
- 2:08Speaker 3: So it's a last week the salon sweek conversation is interesting.
- 2:12Speaker 3: We've we've had this conversation before, but it's very interesting
- 2:16Speaker 3: model it is and everybody does it differently right like that.
- 2:20Speaker 6: I don't think that there's one.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Just set way, like a few people that we've talked to,
- 2:26Speaker 3: and they all have different models.
- 2:28Speaker 6: And there's different types of salons too.
- 2:29Speaker 3: There's the women here, there's the barbershop salon, is the manicure, pedicure,
- 2:34Speaker 3: there's a combination of all of those facial So this
- 2:39Speaker 3: is this is important conversation that you're going to be
- 2:41Speaker 3: at investments as well.
- 2:43Speaker 6: But first and foremost, thank you for joining us.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Absolutely I put it.
- 2:46Speaker 4: I'll say that every time we hear like the stories
- 2:49Speaker 4: around these businesses, we always leave the episode like, damn,
- 2:52Speaker 4: we should do that.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I bet, I bet you.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I come across a lot of myss Oh my god,
- 2:56Speaker 1: ideas opportunities, this is one of them.
- 2:58Speaker 3: It's like I said, the salon sweet, especially women. I
- 3:00Speaker 3: feel like this is something that's really really big. A
- 3:03Speaker 3: lot of women want to get in for sure. How
- 3:06Speaker 3: did you what's your journey into the salon sweet business?
- 3:09Speaker 6: Yees.
- 3:10Speaker 1: So, I actually grew up in a family of beauty
- 3:12Speaker 1: pro so my sister, my mom that actually worked in
- 3:14Speaker 1: the salon. So back in the day, actually here hair salon,
- 3:16Speaker 1: hair salon, traditional hair salon were re leasing out of chair.
- 3:19Speaker 1: My sister was and mother was both like top braiders
- 3:22Speaker 1: back at home. And so I used to dobrows. I'm
- 3:25Speaker 1: from Lands in Michigan. Yep, Lance in Michigan, which is
- 3:28Speaker 1: actually the capital of Michigan.
- 3:31Speaker 5: As the choice, I was going to say, that's the
- 3:32Speaker 5: capital of Michigan.
- 3:33Speaker 1: In respect on the real town. And so I used
- 3:36Speaker 1: to do eyebrows back in the day in high school.
- 3:38Speaker 1: I really loved the environment. I just loved the freedom
- 3:41Speaker 1: the beauty pros had. Every time I went in there,
- 3:42Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is something I want to do.
- 3:44Speaker 1: So at the time, I was a basketball star, had
- 3:47Speaker 1: the opportunity to go pro chose not to go pro.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I could actually dump back then as well. Yeah seriously.
- 3:52Speaker 2: School Yeah, went to school LANCEA. Everett Magic Johnson.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Yeah we are overall record for four years was one
- 3:57Speaker 1: hundred and four and three in college.
- 4:00Speaker 2: In high school. In college, I went to Eastern Michigan
- 4:02Speaker 2: and Michigan State.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and then I actually went to go work
- 4:05Speaker 1: on this coaching staff at Michigan State as well. Before
- 4:08Speaker 1: I moved to Atlanta. Packed up my family moved to Atlanta.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So at that time, I was doing a lot of
- 4:12Speaker 1: basketball and music. So me and my twin sister, we
- 4:14Speaker 1: had a group called Twin City, so we opened for
- 4:16Speaker 1: like Lil Wayne Rick Ross. We were models, we were
- 4:19Speaker 1: on a radio, all that big stuff. Moved to Atlanta
- 4:22Speaker 1: kind of focused on the music, but I was still
- 4:25Speaker 1: attracted to that barbershop salon type of feel. So I
- 4:29Speaker 1: went in initially to work at a barbershop. I went
- 4:32Speaker 1: and got my license, worked at a barbershop, and I
- 4:34Speaker 1: walked into this building and I saw the slan suite
- 4:36Speaker 1: concept and I was like, Okay, this is different, this
- 4:38Speaker 1: is like real estate.
- 4:40Speaker 2: I started counting the doors, you know.
- 4:41Speaker 1: After I made my couple payments, I said, well, hold on,
- 4:43Speaker 1: he getting payments from all these doors and his hands off,
- 4:46Speaker 1: So this is a different business structure. So I neither
- 4:50Speaker 1: got super excited about it and shifted from one to
- 4:52Speaker 1: open a barbershop to open the salon suite. And so
- 4:54Speaker 1: I initially partnered with somebody. We opened a location in
- 4:57Speaker 1: Atlanta that did pretty well. We both had two different visions,
- 5:00Speaker 1: so we parted ways, and then I started the Encore
- 5:02Speaker 1: brand in twenty seventeen, I believe it was, and open
- 5:06Speaker 1: five locations, first black owned franchise company or franchise, a
- 5:11Speaker 1: suite franchise or and been in the business ever since.
- 5:14Speaker 3: So and your salant suites are just here in Georgia,
- 5:19Speaker 3: yep here.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Oh no, no, so hair, I mean estheticians or lash
- 5:23Speaker 1: text pretty much anybody that hair, beauty, barber spot industries.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Even nowadays we're getting like therapists and people who do reiki,
- 5:29Speaker 1: so we cover everything, so body sculpting, teeth widening, all
- 5:32Speaker 1: of that stuff.
- 5:33Speaker 5: That is a I mean, just that part is the legendary. Yeah,
- 5:36Speaker 5: we got acknowledge it.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Thank you, right, Like I mean, you've been able to
- 5:40Speaker 4: adapt be flexible from athletics entrepreneurs mute entertainment with music entrepreneurship.
- 5:46Speaker 5: But the idea of getting your business off the ground
- 5:48Speaker 5: is tough enough.
- 5:48Speaker 4: Absolutely, how do you decide that this one's done such
- 5:53Speaker 4: a great job. Let me now go to the next right,
- 5:56Speaker 4: Because moving from location location is not easy. Some people
- 5:59Speaker 4: scale two correct. What were it like the challenges that
- 6:03Speaker 4: you were facing at that time or maybe not the
- 6:05Speaker 4: growth that you were seeing.
- 6:06Speaker 5: That say okay, I feel comfortable to expand this.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like I said, originally my plan was to
- 6:11Speaker 1: open a barbershop, and once I was exposed to this industry,
- 6:13Speaker 1: I said, okay, let me shift that to salon suites.
- 6:15Speaker 1: And I always share the story of that journey because
- 6:17Speaker 1: it's quite a story, from just even the day I
- 6:21Speaker 1: was supposed to sign my lead and my business partner
- 6:23Speaker 1: that I had been meeting with for months didn't show
- 6:24Speaker 1: up and didn't even partner with me. But the landlord
- 6:27Speaker 1: luckily allowed me to sign the lease to the architect,
- 6:30Speaker 1: paying him up front, running off with my money. The
- 6:33Speaker 1: contractors paying them in advance, not knowing any better, trust
- 6:37Speaker 1: and they're gonna do good business.
- 6:38Speaker 2: They running off with the money.
- 6:39Speaker 1: So I always talk about those times and how I
- 6:42Speaker 1: just had developed such high anxiety because it was just
- 6:44Speaker 1: like stressful. I couldn't understand what was going on. I
- 6:47Speaker 1: was going back and forth to the city of Atlanta.
- 6:49Speaker 1: There was even a moment where I had to go
- 6:50Speaker 1: into the City of Atlanta and literally stand on the
- 6:52Speaker 1: table and cried tears, like what the heck because they
- 6:55Speaker 1: had been sending me back and forth only to find
- 6:57Speaker 1: out I wasn't even one that was supposed to be
- 6:58Speaker 1: doing a permity. So that's a whole other story. But
- 7:01Speaker 1: they had been sending me back and forth, and I
- 7:03Speaker 1: just didn't understand what was going on. There was no consultants,
- 7:05Speaker 1: I didn't have any mentors anything at that time, so
- 7:08Speaker 1: it was just so stressful. I'll never forget those days.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so passionate now about teaching other people.
- 7:13Speaker 1: You know, I feel like we all out here trying
- 7:14Speaker 1: to get a second source or third another source of income.
- 7:17Speaker 1: And I wouldn't even wish that experience on my worst enemy.
- 7:19Speaker 1: That's just how tough it was. But it was a
- 7:21Speaker 1: lot of learning lessons that helped me today, you know
- 7:24Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it was definitely an experience, but
- 7:27Speaker 1: I believed in it so bad.
- 7:28Speaker 2: You know. Even our move to Georgia was a crazy experience.
- 7:31Speaker 1: I crashed the U haul truck before we even left,
- 7:35Speaker 1: and you know, but I just believed in it that
- 7:37Speaker 1: much and I really wanted to.
- 7:38Speaker 5: Is it you?
- 7:39Speaker 4: Is it you as just you as a solo entity,
- 7:41Speaker 4: or is it you sist mom going into this venture right,
- 7:45Speaker 4: because sometimes when you're going through it as an entrepreneur,
- 7:47Speaker 4: it's just you and that burden feels on you, like
- 7:51Speaker 4: is there a support system or are they like your
- 7:53Speaker 4: partners in this at the time.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Nope, at the time, no partners. Definitely a support system.
- 7:57Speaker 1: My sister had moved to Dallas for a second, but
- 7:58Speaker 1: she always helped me with every thing that I do,
- 8:00Speaker 1: But she wasn't officially like a part of the team
- 8:02Speaker 1: until recently till a few years ago. But at that time,
- 8:04Speaker 1: it was just me, literally, just me, just trying to
- 8:06Speaker 1: figure it out by myself, jumping off the cliff and yeah,
- 8:10Speaker 1: it was worth it though.
- 8:11Speaker 3: So for people that may not be familiar, explain exactly
- 8:14Speaker 3: what a salon suite is absolutely and why it's becoming
- 8:18Speaker 3: so popular that model.
- 8:20Speaker 1: So salon suite is basically when you take a commercial
- 8:22Speaker 1: space and you're breaking into smaller rooms and you lease
- 8:24Speaker 1: it to beauty pros. Beauty pros, it's a hairstyle that's
- 8:26Speaker 1: barber lash, tach esthetician, like some of the names I
- 8:28Speaker 1: listed earlier. So it's really like a real estate in
- 8:32Speaker 1: the hair and beauty industry. So me as the owner,
- 8:34Speaker 1: I don't have to help them find clients. I don't
- 8:36Speaker 1: have to worry about their pricing, their scheduling, products, nothing.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I'm literally just providing the space, managing the space and
- 8:41Speaker 1: making sure it's great.
- 8:44Speaker 2: And so that's pretty much what it is.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And the thing that the reason why it's so common
- 8:48Speaker 1: is everybody wants to be their own boss nowadays, so
- 8:50Speaker 1: that allows them to be their own boss. They get
- 8:52Speaker 1: to come in, customize the sweet to reflect their style.
- 8:54Speaker 1: They don't work for me compared to a traditional salon
- 8:56Speaker 1: of barbershop, I have to help them find clients. They
- 8:58Speaker 1: technically do work for me. So this is the complete opposite.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And it's not only more lucrative, but it's more semi
- 9:04Speaker 1: passive and just less well sometimes it could be stressful,
- 9:09Speaker 1: but I think maybe less stressful compared to traditional salona barbershop.
- 9:12Speaker 4: So almost in a sense, you're like the landlord correct,
- 9:14Speaker 4: so that they literally literally the landlord collecting. We spoke about,
- 9:20Speaker 4: like I said, this industry before. Are you creating the
- 9:24Speaker 4: designs in the room or do they have the freedom
- 9:26Speaker 4: to create inside the room? Is it some of them
- 9:28Speaker 4: furnish or is there a scale that you have to say, hey,
- 9:31Speaker 4: if you want this space and its furnished, it is this.
- 9:34Speaker 4: Are there tears to rent in the space or how
- 9:36Speaker 4: does that work?
- 9:36Speaker 2: That's a great question.
- 9:37Speaker 1: So primarily I like to stick with the business model
- 9:39Speaker 1: where we do the share space. So we don't furnish
- 9:41Speaker 1: most of the suites. We keep them unfurnished, and the
- 9:44Speaker 1: reason being a lot of beauty pros they want to
- 9:46Speaker 1: bring their own chair. You know, they don't want our
- 9:47Speaker 1: standard black chair, they want a purple chair, they want
- 9:49Speaker 1: a green chair, and so they really like that business model.
- 9:53Speaker 1: So in regards to the tears, right, So we have
- 9:55Speaker 1: tested furnishing a couple suites. There are some people who
- 9:58Speaker 1: want to turn key salon suite, but for the most
- 10:00Speaker 1: part we do unfurnished and it saves money not only
- 10:03Speaker 1: for the owners because we don't have to run plumbing
- 10:04Speaker 1: through every single suite, but we also don't have to
- 10:06Speaker 1: furnish every single suite, and we don't have to inspect
- 10:08Speaker 1: the furniture, which is a lot and so we save
- 10:10Speaker 1: a lot of money. And then for the beauty pros,
- 10:11Speaker 1: it's a win for them because they don't have to
- 10:13Speaker 1: use our furniture, they get to great a rent for
- 10:16Speaker 1: a lower rate, and I just like the camaraderie that
- 10:19Speaker 1: it creates. Some salon suits are so private you don't
- 10:20Speaker 1: even know who you work next to. So with this
- 10:22Speaker 1: business model, they get their privacy, but they also get
- 10:25Speaker 1: to go to the share shampoo bo and dryers and
- 10:27Speaker 1: meet other people and become friends. So for example, my
- 10:30Speaker 1: first location, we're going on our sixth year. I want
- 10:33Speaker 1: to say eighty five percent of the beauty pros that
- 10:35Speaker 1: work there have been there since day one. But their
- 10:37Speaker 1: friends and they don't want to leave each other. So
- 10:39Speaker 1: that's the business model that I like to teach. But
- 10:41Speaker 1: some of my students they will do PARSI furnished, fully furnished,
- 10:44Speaker 1: So there is different tiers, but I primarily do the
- 10:46Speaker 1: share space model.
- 10:47Speaker 5: How many sweets and location.
- 10:48Speaker 1: One sixteen that's the first location sixteen suitets.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Our biggest location in Sandy Springs has twenty four.
- 10:54Speaker 6: Suitits and they get to they get to name their own.
- 10:58Speaker 1: They do they name it, They get their own business license,
- 11:00Speaker 1: their own LLC. Literally, they operated like it's their own
- 11:03Speaker 1: business without all the extra overhead that we take on.
- 11:05Speaker 3: So from a financial standpoint, for a regular hair Salona barbershop,
- 11:11Speaker 3: you have two thousand square feet and then you just
- 11:14Speaker 3: put ten barbers in there, correct, and they all work
- 11:16Speaker 3: for the same barbershop, right, Yeah, like half Moon barber
- 11:21Speaker 3: This one is you breaking it into little cubicles, correct,
- 11:25Speaker 3: with their own door. So from a health standpoint, because
- 11:28Speaker 3: that was big during COVID too, it's like you're separated
- 11:31Speaker 3: from a health standpoint yep. Also from an entrepreneurial standpoint,
- 11:35Speaker 3: they can have their own trademark, their own business, their
- 11:38Speaker 3: own color literally, as opposed to just being under one umbrella.
- 11:42Speaker 3: They might want to be independent. Financially, how does that work?
- 11:46Speaker 3: You charge them more money than it would be in
- 11:48Speaker 3: a traditional set.
- 11:50Speaker 2: For the most part.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I mean, I've been doing my research and it seems
- 11:53Speaker 1: like the traditional rent is kind of going up. But
- 11:55Speaker 1: just to give you an example, so the rooms are
- 11:56Speaker 1: about ninety five to one hundred and five square.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Feet a single suite.
- 12:00Speaker 1: I always say it's like the size of a master
- 12:01Speaker 1: bathroom and a residential home, and so that's that's the
- 12:05Speaker 1: average suite. We do lease them out to different hairstyle as,
- 12:10Speaker 1: beauty pros and everything like that. Ninety five to one
- 12:12Speaker 1: hundred five square feet. We charge about two to fifty
- 12:14Speaker 1: a week. That's unfurnished. Now, if we furnish it, we're
- 12:16Speaker 1: talking more like three twenty five. So two to fifty
- 12:19Speaker 1: a week is every week, every Friday. They pay rent automatic,
- 12:22Speaker 1: just like residential and so it's pretty lucrative. So I
- 12:25Speaker 1: would say a chair is more so like one fifty
- 12:27Speaker 1: one seventy five. And I always say salon sweets really
- 12:29Speaker 1: is for the next.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Level of beauty pro.
- 12:31Speaker 1: It's for the beauty pro that has established clientele because
- 12:34Speaker 1: again we're not really helping them with marketing. So you
- 12:36Speaker 1: want to make sure that they're established and they understand
- 12:38Speaker 1: that coming in, because there's a lot of talk about,
- 12:40Speaker 1: you know, salon suites have killed the culture, you know,
- 12:42Speaker 1: the barbershop talk, the salon talk, and I'm like, you know, well,
- 12:45Speaker 1: the beautiful thing is everybody has options.
- 12:47Speaker 2: If you want to go to a traditional salon which
- 12:48Speaker 2: I recommend.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I recommend coming out of school that you go to
- 12:51Speaker 1: a traditional salon, a barbershop to build your clientele. I
- 12:53Speaker 1: don't recommend you go straight to a salon suite because
- 12:55Speaker 1: you're not ready. So, you know, all money isn't good money.
- 12:58Speaker 1: When it comes to leasing out through suites, we like
- 12:59Speaker 1: to make sure or that they are established and that
- 13:01Speaker 1: they're just They understand that they're one hundred percent on
- 13:04Speaker 1: their own and I'm literally just the landlord collecting rent.
- 13:07Speaker 2: It's a plumbing or electrical issue.
- 13:08Speaker 1: We assist with that, but they are one hundred percent
- 13:11Speaker 1: on their own, so they can. We do have some
- 13:12Speaker 1: restrictions when it comes to decorating, but for the most part,
- 13:16Speaker 1: they are pretty flexible.
- 13:17Speaker 2: We do allow them to paint, you know, hang some shelbings,
- 13:20Speaker 2: some TV.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Stuff like that, and that's what they love because they
- 13:23Speaker 1: get to walk in and it's their own salon, their
- 13:25Speaker 1: own barbershop. And even if we furnish it, we still
- 13:27Speaker 1: allow them to paint, put up wall paper and stuff
- 13:29Speaker 1: like that. But there are some restrictions, but for the
- 13:32Speaker 1: most part.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Real estate is tricky.
- 13:34Speaker 4: Sit again, I said real estate is tricky, Yeah, it is,
- 13:36Speaker 4: and it can be very capital intensive. Absolutely, and so
- 13:40Speaker 4: I'm thinking, right, we got average three hundred and fifty
- 13:43Speaker 4: of room, we got sixteen rooms, Right, we're almost eight
- 13:47Speaker 4: thirty five hundred a week, maybe a little give or take. Right,
- 13:52Speaker 4: we do that by four weeks, pretty decent.
- 13:55Speaker 6: Uh huh.
- 13:55Speaker 4: Right, So I'm wondering what are the expenses as the
- 13:59Speaker 4: person who who owns the building?
- 14:01Speaker 5: Or did you not own the building at first?
- 14:02Speaker 4: Because that that you got to take that into account.
- 14:06Speaker 5: You're leasing and now it's a sublease.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Lease, but I do teach some of my students to buy,
- 14:10Speaker 1: some some do lease. And people always ask me what's
- 14:13Speaker 1: the best raw. I'll say it's pros and constant both.
- 14:15Speaker 1: You know, I always tell people. You hear people say
- 14:17Speaker 1: I will never put money into a building I don't own,
- 14:20Speaker 1: and I understand it to a certain degree, but I
- 14:21Speaker 1: always look at what you get out of it. So
- 14:22Speaker 1: if I put one hundred k into a building, but
- 14:24Speaker 1: I'm making a quarter million and I don't want to own,
- 14:26Speaker 1: I'm okay with that.
- 14:27Speaker 2: You know, you got to.
- 14:28Speaker 1: It's a certain responsibility to own that some people aren't
- 14:31Speaker 1: willing to take on right now, So me primarily I lease.
- 14:34Speaker 1: The expenses are pretty standard commercial expenses. You know, you
- 14:37Speaker 1: got a CAM if they're an Appliaza cam fee, so
- 14:40Speaker 1: that's utilities, CAM covers common area maintenance, so that's water
- 14:45Speaker 1: and maintaining the building. Let me see Wi Fi security, insurance.
- 14:52Speaker 1: But your top two is going to be your rent,
- 14:53Speaker 1: your electricity.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Yeah, but the most.
- 14:55Speaker 5: Insurance for the building or does each sweetenat insurance?
- 14:58Speaker 1: Now, so that's a good question. I don't rea acquire
- 15:00Speaker 1: each sue. I do encourage them. I used to require it.
- 15:03Speaker 1: It was too much to manage. But I do encourage
- 15:06Speaker 1: that they do get insurance because it also protects their
- 15:07Speaker 1: equipment and stuff, even if they go do like a
- 15:09Speaker 1: house called or something like that. But yes, I do
- 15:11Speaker 1: pay insurance for my portion of the of the plaza.
- 15:14Speaker 2: For my building for my business.
- 15:16Speaker 6: So you said three two fifty a week.
- 15:19Speaker 1: That's an average rate because we had different sizes, so
- 15:21Speaker 1: we had some that were to set out.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Yeah, on average.
- 15:25Speaker 3: Are there other revenue opportunities from it too? Is like
- 15:28Speaker 3: we will rent you towels or we'll rent you oil.
- 15:31Speaker 3: It's just a two fifties, that's it. I do.
- 15:33Speaker 1: I do provide a washer and dryer. There are some
- 15:36Speaker 1: owners that find other ways to make income. I like
- 15:38Speaker 1: to really keep it as passive as possible. I try
- 15:41Speaker 1: like the vending machine, and I found myself going every
- 15:43Speaker 1: week filling the chips up more than I was actually
- 15:45Speaker 1: running a business. And I'm like, I'm only making two
- 15:47Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month from this, but I'm up here
- 15:49Speaker 1: every day putting in Fredo's and three thos episode.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Oh really, y'all said something like that.
- 15:56Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, Well, what I'll
- 15:57Speaker 1: do is I rent out this space to another vendor
- 15:59Speaker 1: and they can do the bitter machine. Same thing with
- 16:01Speaker 1: the ATM. Just get a percentage of an ATM. So
- 16:04Speaker 1: I like to do it that way. But there are
- 16:05Speaker 1: bub pros or saliance we owners that sell products and
- 16:09Speaker 1: they get into it a lot more.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Than I would like to.
- 16:11Speaker 6: So your model is just just rent, Just rent.
- 16:13Speaker 2: That's how I like to do it. I don't have
- 16:14Speaker 2: to worry about nothing.
- 16:15Speaker 4: Being an athlete, and I wonder how a lot of
- 16:18Speaker 4: things can correlate to business discipline as an athlete, Yes,
- 16:23Speaker 4: also disciplined with money, because.
- 16:25Speaker 5: Now I mean you're making the money. Yeah, Well you
- 16:27Speaker 5: always did. You have to become disciplined, Like how did you?
- 16:30Speaker 2: I did have to become disciplined. I did learn a lot.
- 16:32Speaker 1: There were some mistakes that I made that I'm glad
- 16:35Speaker 1: that I made them early, to be honest with you. So, yeah,
- 16:39Speaker 1: but I do think sports help for sure. I always
- 16:40Speaker 1: say that sports help would discipline. I encourage everybody, even
- 16:43Speaker 1: if you don't plan to go pro, just play some
- 16:44Speaker 1: type of sports because I definitely think it helps just overall.
- 16:48Speaker 1: So I'm grateful for that. But yeah, I definitely learned
- 16:51Speaker 1: some financial lessons.
- 16:53Speaker 5: We bought some things that we bought.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Some things we weren't as organized, not having good accountant,
- 16:58Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 16:59Speaker 2: So but like I said, I'm glad I learned that
- 17:01Speaker 2: early on.
- 17:03Speaker 6: Who would you rather have in your salon suite?
- 17:05Speaker 3: So? Who makes the best clients? Is it Barbara? Is
- 17:08Speaker 3: is it here? Salon people? Is it eyebrow people, like.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I say, primarily as cosmetologists, But really it's more so
- 17:16Speaker 1: the person that's just established, honestly, So even if it's
- 17:18Speaker 1: a barber, if it's an esthetician, lash tech, makeup artists,
- 17:22Speaker 1: whoever is established, whoever looks established online. Because for the
- 17:25Speaker 1: most part, all I can do is look online, look
- 17:27Speaker 1: at their social media, check their book in site, make
- 17:29Speaker 1: sure they're legit.
- 17:31Speaker 2: So that's a good tenant.
- 17:32Speaker 1: Somebody who's established, you don't have to worry about if
- 17:34Speaker 1: they're going to pay rent because you can see that
- 17:36Speaker 1: they have clientele, they're going to make money. And also,
- 17:38Speaker 1: somebody has good energy. I'm big on energy. I don't
- 17:40Speaker 1: care how popular you are. If I feel like your
- 17:42Speaker 1: energy is off, I don't want you in the space.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And people who are professional understand customer service, because there's
- 17:48Speaker 1: a lot of beauty pros that just don't have that
- 17:50Speaker 1: business acumen. They don't understand basic business fundamentals, and so
- 17:53Speaker 1: that causes some issue some time.
- 17:54Speaker 2: So I try to just look at those things. When
- 17:56Speaker 2: she was in who's the least.
- 17:58Speaker 4: To How do we get fromation one to location two?
- 18:01Speaker 4: Was it by demand or did you just see that, Hey,
- 18:06Speaker 4: we've made this here, let's try to do this in
- 18:09Speaker 4: another location and see what we can replicate it.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:11Speaker 1: So actually I wasn't even looking for a second location,
- 18:14Speaker 1: but a gentleman had called me and said, hey, sweet,
- 18:15Speaker 1: I know you do salon suites. We have this hair
- 18:17Speaker 1: store that's kind of built out like salon suite, you
- 18:19Speaker 1: want to take a look at it, and it was perfect.
- 18:22Speaker 1: So my first two locations were pretty much like my
- 18:24Speaker 1: first location was a doctor's office. So I always say,
- 18:26Speaker 1: look for a doctor or a dental office. Typically they
- 18:29Speaker 1: already have good sized rooms. I already have plumbing and
- 18:31Speaker 1: electrical you know, they do everything a one and so
- 18:35Speaker 1: that's basically what we look forward to. Second location, we
- 18:38Speaker 1: had to build out like maybe three suites.
- 18:40Speaker 2: So it wasn't planned. It was an opportunity that came
- 18:42Speaker 2: to me.
- 18:42Speaker 1: But it was perfect timing because I had learned a
- 18:44Speaker 1: lot throughout that first location, so we were able to,
- 18:47Speaker 1: you know, do the second location. It was a lot
- 18:49Speaker 1: easier in regards to the other locations enfranchising and so
- 18:53Speaker 1: this will I always say, exposure is so important and
- 18:55Speaker 1: you have the you know, proximity and you have the
- 18:56Speaker 1: right people around you. Because I wasn't thinking about franchise,
- 18:59Speaker 1: and I think it may have lost my mind, but
- 19:00Speaker 1: I was thinking that it just had more requirements than
- 19:03Speaker 1: I needed. I was just thinking maybe it's too big,
- 19:05Speaker 1: and it's why you never want to limit yourself. But
- 19:07Speaker 1: I had this gentleman and he was like, wait, why
- 19:09Speaker 1: aren't you franchise and I was like, man, I don't
- 19:11Speaker 1: think I can franchise.
- 19:12Speaker 2: And he was like, how do you even know.
- 19:13Speaker 1: You haven't even called and asked and inquired about it.
- 19:15Speaker 1: And so when I did, they were like, yeah, you
- 19:17Speaker 1: can franchise. It's just you know, you got to pay
- 19:20Speaker 1: and that's it. So you know, we was more to it.
- 19:22Speaker 1: You got to create the FDD and the one hundred
- 19:24Speaker 1: page document and all of that. But anyways, we did that.
- 19:27Speaker 1: My first deal ended up being a three unit deal.
- 19:29Speaker 1: So what we did was our model was we would
- 19:32Speaker 1: sell a turnkey ready salon suite to a franchise, so
- 19:36Speaker 1: then we franchise it. We still get the franchise feed,
- 19:38Speaker 1: we still get the royalties, but within that three unit deal,
- 19:41Speaker 1: they had to build two more units. In order to
- 19:42Speaker 1: get a turnkey location, you have to agree to open
- 19:45Speaker 1: two more locations. And so that's how we kind of
- 19:47Speaker 1: started out with that three unit deal.
- 19:49Speaker 5: Give them three and then they got a bill to.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Give them one. They got a bill to give them one,
- 19:52Speaker 2: they got a build too, and so that's what we did.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I actually sold that first location, it was sixteen sweets
- 19:56Speaker 1: for around like half a million dollars. Still was able
- 19:59Speaker 1: to get royalties from and then again they had to
- 20:01Speaker 1: build two more locations, which they did.
- 20:03Speaker 3: So for some way, we'll talk about the franchise model
- 20:06Speaker 3: for sure, and for somebody that's okay. They realize that
- 20:09Speaker 3: they want to have a salon suite. What's the first
- 20:13Speaker 3: thing that they have to do? Obviously, you know, you
- 20:14Speaker 3: got to find a location for sure, build it out.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Do you recommend that they try to get people that's
- 20:22Speaker 3: going to work in there before like, what's the steps for?
- 20:25Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 20:26Speaker 2: The steps first?
- 20:26Speaker 1: Of course, you got to, you know, make sure you
- 20:28Speaker 1: have the funny before you even look for a location.
- 20:29Speaker 2: So that's a big thing.
- 20:30Speaker 1: A lot of people out here just dream and looking
- 20:32Speaker 1: for locations and I'm like, landlord is not even gonna
- 20:33Speaker 1: entertain you because you don't have the money to pull
- 20:35Speaker 1: the trigger. But it's going to be finding the location,
- 20:37Speaker 1: which can be difficult sometimes because you want to make
- 20:39Speaker 1: sure you have ample parking and you want to make
- 20:41Speaker 1: sure it makes sense because in this business model there
- 20:43Speaker 1: is a cap. I know, we don't really like investments
- 20:45Speaker 1: where there's a cat, but once our suites are full,
- 20:47Speaker 1: they're full, So you want to make sure it makes
- 20:49Speaker 1: sense at one hundred percent capacity. I teach my students
- 20:51Speaker 1: to run the numbers at ninety eight percent. What does
- 20:54Speaker 1: it look like if you have five suits empty? And
- 20:56Speaker 1: you want to know those numbers before you sign the lease.
- 20:57Speaker 1: And that's just so important because people are so decided
- 21:00Speaker 1: to sign the least just to say they own a
- 21:01Speaker 1: business and always say it's a lot of broke business
- 21:04Speaker 1: owners out there, and it's a right and the wrong
- 21:05Speaker 1: way to do everything. So I'm really big on making
- 21:07Speaker 1: sure they do it so that's actually profitable.
- 21:09Speaker 2: But anyways, we're going to.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Find a location, then we're going to hire an architect
- 21:13Speaker 1: that's going to come in and make sure we maximize
- 21:14Speaker 1: the space, get as many sweets as possible. Then we're
- 21:17Speaker 1: going to be in the contractor in who's going to
- 21:19Speaker 1: build out the plan that the architect created. During that time,
- 21:22Speaker 1: we go through permitting. I'm sure you're all familiar with
- 21:23Speaker 1: the permitting process. It could be thirty days, the three years, no,
- 21:28Speaker 1: so you know, we're having patients during that timeframe building
- 21:32Speaker 1: up the salone suite. And then we like to prelease
- 21:34Speaker 1: just like a apartment complex. So we were about eighty
- 21:37Speaker 1: five percent done with the buildout. We like to prelease,
- 21:40Speaker 1: get them in early, and then of course you have
- 21:42Speaker 1: to do your final inspection, get your co do you
- 21:44Speaker 1: officially open. So those are pretty much just in a summary.
- 21:48Speaker 6: What type of buildings do you look for, because it's
- 21:50Speaker 6: like each suite you got to have like air conditioning
- 21:52Speaker 6: or is this you central air condition for the whole thing.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Hope, you do have to have unless it's like a
- 21:55Speaker 1: building that's grandfathered in and it's old. But for the
- 21:57Speaker 1: most part, yes, you need a sprinkler. You need age
- 22:00Speaker 1: back each in each one each week. So if that's
- 22:03Speaker 1: not there, you got to put that in.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Correct, you do have to put that in each one.
- 22:06Speaker 4: Which that's that's like why like the dentist's office exactly
- 22:09Speaker 4: what the doctor's exactly makes a lot of sense exactly.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Now, sometimes the rooms can be too big, but a
- 22:14Speaker 1: lot of times there are the perfect size.
- 22:16Speaker 5: For sweet and a lot of them have sinks.
- 22:17Speaker 2: A lot of them have sinks, plumbing and electrical.
- 22:20Speaker 6: So yeah, so what type of realitate are you looking for?
- 22:22Speaker 1: Yes, primarily that's what I'm looking for first, is a
- 22:25Speaker 1: deno or a doctor's office. You know, maybe sometimes the
- 22:27Speaker 1: office suites, but a lot of times they don't have
- 22:29Speaker 1: the plumbing and the electrical. But it's all good because
- 22:32Speaker 1: one thing I also teach is TI tendant improvement. That's
- 22:34Speaker 1: when the landlord gives you money towards the build out.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I mean I've had students get two hundred thousand, one
- 22:38Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand. I mean the landlord is paying
- 22:40Speaker 1: for their full buildout. So that's one thing. You know,
- 22:43Speaker 1: we go in there talk about that. Yep, so t
- 22:46Speaker 1: I and people people are like, why would the landlord
- 22:48Speaker 1: you know, people would be under my comments like she's
- 22:50Speaker 1: cat the landlord wouldn't pay it. I'm like, y'all, just
- 22:52Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. That landlord absolutely will.
- 22:55Speaker 1: And the reason they do that is because they want
- 22:57Speaker 1: you to be a long term tenant. They also see
- 22:58Speaker 1: it as an investment. They know that you're about to
- 23:00Speaker 1: pay them for the next seven ten years, so they
- 23:02Speaker 1: gonna get that money back on the back end. But
- 23:04Speaker 1: you want to go in there, I like to say,
- 23:05Speaker 1: take a GC in there before you even sign the agreement,
- 23:08Speaker 1: because they can spot off things that we can't spot out,
- 23:10Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so we go in there,
- 23:12Speaker 1: we see what's right what's wrong, and we use that
- 23:15Speaker 1: to leverage our negotiating when it comes to the TI.
- 23:17Speaker 1: So we're always shooting for one hundred percent in TI.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Of course that's if you're leasing. You know, if you're buying,
- 23:22Speaker 1: you're not getting any TI. But sometimes we get fifty
- 23:25Speaker 1: percent towards the build out forty percent, but we try
- 23:27Speaker 1: to get something in TI from the landlord which goes
- 23:30Speaker 1: to towards the build out and you don't have to
- 23:32Speaker 1: pay that back.
- 23:33Speaker 5: How how's the retention with the people that you're leasing.
- 23:36Speaker 4: I know, sometimes people can start out in a room
- 23:39Speaker 4: and maybe it's we need a bigger suite, and then
- 23:41Speaker 4: the clientele becomes to bid that, Hey, maybe I gotta
- 23:45Speaker 4: go somewhere else, Like, how does that work for you?
- 23:47Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 23:47Speaker 1: I don't think that's really the problem because most people
- 23:49Speaker 1: who work in the slants we work off appointments only,
- 23:51Speaker 1: so they're usually only servicing one client at a time,
- 23:53Speaker 1: unless somebody's trying to run a whole salon.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Or something like that.
- 23:56Speaker 1: But the retention I think is one hundred percent up
- 23:58Speaker 1: to the owner, you know, even though we teach for
- 24:00Speaker 1: it to be somebody passed. If I think it's important
- 24:02Speaker 1: that your presence is still felt. So even though I'm
- 24:04Speaker 1: not there every weekend, every month, I still send out
- 24:06Speaker 1: email automations you know, happy holidays, and I just stay
- 24:10Speaker 1: in the loop ask them is there anything we could
- 24:12Speaker 1: do better? So I think that's important. Also goes back
- 24:15Speaker 1: to just you know who you lease to. You know,
- 24:16Speaker 1: like I said, all money isn't good money. So you
- 24:18Speaker 1: want to make sure that these people are established because
- 24:20Speaker 1: if not, they're going to be looking.
- 24:21Speaker 2: To leave soon. So I think it's just.
- 24:24Speaker 1: About you know, if there's an issue, you you know,
- 24:26Speaker 1: communicating that and taking care of a plumbing or electrical issue.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Those things really helped with retention and so I did it.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I was really big on that and so I was able.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Like I said, my first location, eighty five percent of
- 24:37Speaker 1: people are still there from day one.
- 24:39Speaker 2: But it can.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I mean, just like real estate. You know, you got
- 24:42Speaker 1: sweet squatters too, that's what we call them. That's a
- 24:44Speaker 1: real thing. Somebody who will not pay but stays there
- 24:48Speaker 1: and they treated just like an apartment complex if you go.
- 24:50Speaker 2: That actually happened to me. One time. I had to
- 24:51Speaker 2: call the police.
- 24:52Speaker 1: This lady wouldn't leave, and he was like, there's nothing
- 24:54Speaker 1: we could do and it was the worse feeling walking
- 24:57Speaker 1: through my salon suites looking at this person do hair.
- 25:00Speaker 1: They're not paying me, and it was nothing I could
- 25:01Speaker 1: do but wait for a court date so that lesson
- 25:04Speaker 1: what I learned With that, I met an attorney. He said, well,
- 25:06Speaker 1: you know, like we works in these office spaces, they
- 25:09Speaker 1: use a license agreement. He said, with the license agreement,
- 25:12Speaker 1: you don't got to deal with squatters. You can get
- 25:13Speaker 1: them right out of there because you're not leasing the
- 25:14Speaker 1: space to them. So once we made that change, which
- 25:17Speaker 1: is major, there's a lot of signs we own us
- 25:18Speaker 1: to this day that don't even know that. So now
- 25:20Speaker 1: we don't deal with sweet squatters with something.
- 25:23Speaker 4: It makes me think of like the systems that you
- 25:26Speaker 4: didn't have in location one, correct that you implemented in
- 25:30Speaker 4: location two, and likes that are there a bunch of
- 25:33Speaker 4: those that.
- 25:34Speaker 2: There is in each location. We learned something and we
- 25:36Speaker 2: just got better.
- 25:37Speaker 5: Yeah, what are some of those things? That's a good one.
- 25:39Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Like even when we go back, so when I take
- 25:41Speaker 1: my students, I like to take them to the first
- 25:42Speaker 1: location in the last location because the first location it's
- 25:44Speaker 1: hard for me. Tomn walk through I'm like, dang, why
- 25:46Speaker 1: do I got regular door knobs?
- 25:47Speaker 2: Like oh that got keys?
- 25:48Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, So stuff like that,
- 25:50Speaker 1: you know, keyless entry, just having true systems in place,
- 25:54Speaker 1: the email automations, like I said, just making my presence
- 25:56Speaker 1: be felt, trying to think what else.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Pay structure, the late fee structured.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Just learning that, and I think that was pretty much
- 26:06Speaker 1: off the top of my head what I can think
- 26:08Speaker 1: of as far as you know, I'm sure there's other
- 26:09Speaker 1: lessons and just how to deal with people again, how
- 26:11Speaker 1: to filter out the bad tenants and the good tenants.
- 26:14Speaker 1: So lots of little lessons like that that we just
- 26:16Speaker 1: continuously kept learning. And so I brought my sister on board,
- 26:19Speaker 1: I want to say, a couple of years ago. So
- 26:20Speaker 1: she worked for Samsung. She was like in charge of
- 26:24Speaker 1: approving like all the new devices and stuff. So she
- 26:26Speaker 1: was really big on systems. So she came in implemented
- 26:29Speaker 1: a lot of systems that really really helped us.
- 26:31Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, are there property managers at each location
- 26:33Speaker 4: or is it you and like the families going around
- 26:37Speaker 4: making sure that you're seen.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Yep, So at first it was me, which was another
- 26:42Speaker 1: big lesson that I learned because I gave everybody my
- 26:44Speaker 1: phone number, and that was the worst decision ever, because
- 26:46Speaker 1: when there's a leak, all twenty people calling me and
- 26:48Speaker 1: I'm like, I just need to hear it from one person.
- 26:50Speaker 1: So what I like to do is a point one
- 26:53Speaker 1: person from each location is like the leason, so they're
- 26:56Speaker 1: like the salon manager, and that's the only person that
- 26:58Speaker 1: has my number. So if there's any issue that go on,
- 27:00Speaker 1: they understand to let this line manager know she's the
- 27:02Speaker 1: one that contacts me. I'll contact the team. And that's
- 27:04Speaker 1: when I was more involved. Now I'm not that involved
- 27:06Speaker 1: at all. And then to compensate her, I just discount
- 27:10Speaker 1: her like two, like fifty dollars a week, so about
- 27:12Speaker 1: two hundred dollars a month, and they appreciate that. And
- 27:14Speaker 1: so there's some weeks we talk, there's some weeks we
- 27:16Speaker 1: don't talk. But just having that liaison is extremely helpful.
- 27:19Speaker 1: The rest of the tenants can only contact me by email,
- 27:23Speaker 1: and that's a big lesson that I learned, because that
- 27:24Speaker 1: would drive you crazy. I remember just feeling overly, super
- 27:28Speaker 1: overwhelmed with everybody having my number. It was a point
- 27:31Speaker 1: of time where I hated my ring tone. It just
- 27:33Speaker 1: gave me instan anxiety, like now what you know what
- 27:35Speaker 1: I'm saying. So a lot of hard lessons, but you
- 27:38Speaker 1: know I don't regret any of them. They were lessons.
- 27:41Speaker 6: So how much does it cost for the average buildof So.
- 27:44Speaker 1: It really depends on the scope of work. If you
- 27:46Speaker 1: find a dental office, your build out, of course isn't
- 27:48Speaker 1: going to cost as much as a building that's empty.
- 27:50Speaker 1: But again that's when we're going to negotiate more TI
- 27:52Speaker 1: because we've got to put in more work. But I
- 27:54Speaker 1: like to say the sweet spot to start, it's like eighty.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Two one hundred K.
- 27:58Speaker 1: And then once you find your location and then you
- 28:00Speaker 1: get your quote, you'll know if it's more or less.
- 28:02Speaker 1: And I always tell people they say, well, what if
- 28:04Speaker 1: I don't have enough money? I later determine I need
- 28:06Speaker 1: more money for the build out. But we have a
- 28:08Speaker 1: funding team in place, so our program we do everything
- 28:10Speaker 1: from credit with payer to funding to help you find
- 28:13Speaker 1: a location. We bring in realtors, we bring in a
- 28:14Speaker 1: trademark attorney's therapists, funny, so we have an amazing funded team.
- 28:20Speaker 1: We have a credit team and a funding team that
- 28:21Speaker 1: works together and we encourage people to use opum other
- 28:24Speaker 1: people's money, and so when they get into our mastermine,
- 28:27Speaker 1: we actually go and use our resources to help them
- 28:29Speaker 1: get the funny, which is very helpful because a lot
- 28:31Speaker 1: of people don't know. They just go to their bank
- 28:33Speaker 1: and they just think that's the only place they can
- 28:34Speaker 1: get funding. So that's a big help. But the thing is,
- 28:38Speaker 1: if you get the funding, you find a location and
- 28:40Speaker 1: then you later determine, okay, I need an extra sixty K. Well,
- 28:43Speaker 1: then we'll go and do a second round of funny
- 28:45Speaker 1: while we're waiting for those permits. Won't really got much
- 28:47Speaker 1: to do anyway. So while we're waiting for those permits,
- 28:49Speaker 1: we can put our first payment down, we can pay
- 28:51Speaker 1: the architect to design it.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Then we're going to get a second round of funny.
- 28:55Speaker 1: So we support them in every single way when they
- 28:57Speaker 1: tap in, and like I said, just throw it in
- 28:59Speaker 1: there and have a therapist come in. Because I always
- 29:02Speaker 1: tell my students, you know, I want you all to
- 29:03Speaker 1: become successful. I want you got to be salon suite owners.
- 29:06Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the ultimate success
- 29:08Speaker 1: in life, in my opinion, it's piece of happiness.
- 29:10Speaker 2: So it's a lot of miserable business owners.
- 29:12Speaker 1: So I like to just have that balance with my
- 29:14Speaker 1: am I teachings with just making sure you have the
- 29:16Speaker 1: right mindset to maneuver through this peacefully and still have
- 29:20Speaker 1: your sanity. Yeah, because you're dealing with a lot of
- 29:22Speaker 1: people that are their own boss too, so you know
- 29:24Speaker 1: how that goes.
- 29:25Speaker 4: You told us the type of locations you're looking for, doctors' offices,
- 29:28Speaker 4: dental offices. What about from a geographical location, right, Like,
- 29:33Speaker 4: are there certain things that you know need to be
- 29:36Speaker 4: in place, whether it be like eateries or you know,
- 29:42Speaker 4: office buildings, right, people like to go to get things,
- 29:44Speaker 4: things done on their lunch break. Like, are those things
- 29:48Speaker 4: going into your decision making when you're talking about location.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Yeah, but not like necessarily a deal breaker for not.
- 29:53Speaker 1: Of course, we want to go where there's high traffic,
- 29:55Speaker 1: just like any business will want to go where it's
- 29:57Speaker 1: high traffic. The biggest thing is having ample parking, you know,
- 30:00Speaker 1: unless you're in a city like New York where it's
- 30:02Speaker 1: just parking is just a struggle anyway, But we do
- 30:06Speaker 1: make sure we have ample parking. But for the most part,
- 30:08Speaker 1: because salon suites, you know, like I said, they're already established,
- 30:11Speaker 1: they bring their own clientele. We don't necessarily have to
- 30:13Speaker 1: be on the main corner like a traditional salam of
- 30:16Speaker 1: barber shop where they're trying to get walk in. You know,
- 30:17Speaker 1: we're not really focused on walking, so we don't have to.
- 30:20Speaker 1: But it's always a bonus if you can be next
- 30:22Speaker 1: to a Starbucks or a shopping center or something like that.
- 30:25Speaker 1: So we do aim for that, but we have locations
- 30:28Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily in high demand areas. But for the
- 30:30Speaker 1: most part, though people always ask me, you know what,
- 30:33Speaker 1: what's a good location, It's all about doing your research. Really,
- 30:37Speaker 1: you know, the numbers are going to tell you if
- 30:38Speaker 1: it's a good location. So doing your research on your area,
- 30:41Speaker 1: because every market area is different. A suite in Atlanta
- 30:43Speaker 1: it's not going to cost the same as a suite
- 30:44Speaker 1: in New York. So understanding what the average suite goes
- 30:48Speaker 1: for in your area, and then when you have a location,
- 30:51Speaker 1: we have an equation where we can kind of run
- 30:52Speaker 1: the numbers and project the income before we even as
- 30:54Speaker 1: sign the lease. Okay, the average suite in New York
- 30:56Speaker 1: is two seventy five. We have three thousand square feet.
- 30:59Speaker 1: We get about sixteen suits in there. We run the
- 31:02Speaker 1: number on that at one hundred percent capacity, at eighty
- 31:05Speaker 1: percent capacity. And so that's the main thing is just
- 31:08Speaker 1: making sure the numbers make sense the way I coach,
- 31:11Speaker 1: I make sure it's somebody passes. Because there are some
- 31:13Speaker 1: salon suite owners that work it like it's a full
- 31:15Speaker 1: time job. It blows my mind. So I'm big on
- 31:18Speaker 1: just making sure that they don't have to be there
- 31:20Speaker 1: every day, so it doesn't have to be around the
- 31:22Speaker 1: quarter from your house. It could be thirty miles out
- 31:25Speaker 1: and you can still manage it pretty pretty good.
- 31:27Speaker 5: Man.
- 31:27Speaker 4: I'm thinking you're already got the one stop shop. They're
- 31:30Speaker 4: gonna get their heir. Yep, eyebrows, eyelashes, nails, all done
- 31:33Speaker 4: in the same place.
- 31:34Speaker 2: All done.
- 31:34Speaker 5: Only thing missing is food. Yeah, that's right next door.
- 31:38Speaker 2: No, literally it is. It is helpful now.
- 31:40Speaker 1: The thing with salons, you know, the salion industry, you
- 31:42Speaker 1: got a lot of food people who pull up on you,
- 31:44Speaker 1: so you know, they come.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Sell you detergent, socks, food, all kinds of stuff. So
- 31:47Speaker 2: that's that's helpful.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Even the beauty supply that nowadays they have, like the
- 31:50Speaker 1: mobile supplies. They walk in they're the bands. Yeah, you
- 31:53Speaker 1: walk in the band. It's like a full supply store.
- 31:56Speaker 1: But yeah, it is always nice to be next to
- 31:58Speaker 1: food for sure, got to eat.
- 32:00Speaker 6: So where do you think the mistakes?
- 32:02Speaker 3: A lot of beauty salon or beauty professionals make money,
- 32:06Speaker 3: but they don't really ever generate like real wealth. So
- 32:08Speaker 3: what's the mistakes that?
- 32:09Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think it's like I said, those basic
- 32:12Speaker 1: business fundamentals. First of all, they don't even really have
- 32:15Speaker 1: a clear understanding and ask to how much they make,
- 32:16Speaker 1: And I'm like, how can you set a goal where
- 32:19Speaker 1: you don't even know where you're actually at? You know,
- 32:21Speaker 1: I think reporting is really important when it comes to
- 32:23Speaker 1: money because, like I said, you got those vendors that
- 32:25Speaker 1: come in you spending all kinds of money. You don't
- 32:27Speaker 1: know where the money is going in and out. A
- 32:29Speaker 1: lot of people are taking cash apt caszal. It should
- 32:32Speaker 1: be one form of payment so that you have clear reporting,
- 32:34Speaker 1: so that you really understand your numbers, so that you
- 32:36Speaker 1: can set a goal, you know what I mean. But
- 32:38Speaker 1: I think also customer service is the biggest thing right now.
- 32:41Speaker 1: These stylists are off the chain with their attitudes and
- 32:44Speaker 1: it's like they think we need them, when in reality,
- 32:46Speaker 1: they need the clients.
- 32:47Speaker 2: But that's big, Like their attitude is terrible.
- 32:50Speaker 1: It's some very talented people out there that just don't
- 32:53Speaker 1: understand the basic business fundamentals like be on time. Like
- 32:56Speaker 1: you think because you're the stylist, you can be forty
- 32:58Speaker 1: five minutes late.
- 32:59Speaker 2: But if the client is it's late, you want to
- 33:01Speaker 2: enforce a lafe feed.
- 33:01Speaker 1: But you can be forty five minutes late and you
- 33:03Speaker 1: don't even give them a discount or anything like that.
- 33:05Speaker 2: So I think that their.
- 33:06Speaker 1: Their attitude about it is wrong, and I think that's
- 33:09Speaker 1: why a lot of people aren't growing because they look
- 33:11Speaker 1: at it like, well, it's okay, I'll get a new client,
- 33:14Speaker 1: and my thing is to grow. You want to retain
- 33:16Speaker 1: those clients so that you can create that demand and
- 33:18Speaker 1: then where you're overly packed and booked out, that's when
- 33:20Speaker 1: you can increase your price. That's when you can scale,
- 33:22Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But they don't care about that.
- 33:24Speaker 1: When you leave, they just feel like, hey, as long
- 33:26Speaker 1: as somebody is in my chair. So that's really big
- 33:29Speaker 1: in too hearing beauty industry to customer services, it's rough
- 33:31Speaker 1: out there.
- 33:32Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I've watched my wife have some bad experience. It's
- 33:35Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about.
- 33:36Speaker 2: It's bad.
- 33:37Speaker 4: I've heard this common theme that I don't do that anymore,
- 33:40Speaker 4: or it's not me that does that anymore, and it's just,
- 33:43Speaker 4: you know, the idea of your business and business function
- 33:46Speaker 4: without you is when you have a real business, sure
- 33:49Speaker 4: because you have systems.
- 33:50Speaker 5: When did you get to that point, man?
- 33:52Speaker 2: I want to say maybe about four years ago.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Yeah, about four years ago when I realized, okay, I
- 33:59Speaker 1: can't and then I started scaling so our franchise we
- 34:01Speaker 1: had two corporate locations, three franchise locations, and then I
- 34:04Speaker 1: want to do other things. I get into real estate
- 34:06Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I want to say about
- 34:08Speaker 1: four years ago. But it took me a little longer
- 34:09Speaker 1: than it should have. I definitely should have got out
- 34:11Speaker 1: of my own way and replaced myself a lot sooner.
- 34:14Speaker 1: But that's, like you said, very important in order to
- 34:17Speaker 1: continue to grow, and that's something I'm still working on
- 34:19Speaker 1: a little bit now. It's just you know, hay sway,
- 34:21Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing it like delegate delegate delegates.
- 34:24Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, very important.
- 34:27Speaker 3: So the franchise model, right, how much is it to
- 34:32Speaker 3: buy your franchise. And what's the advantage of buying a
- 34:34Speaker 3: franchise like buying somebody buying into your franchise as opposed
- 34:37Speaker 3: to just starting their own philosophy.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Yep, because you get that support. Right, So we're already
- 34:41Speaker 1: established brand, We're already trademarked. They get the rights to
- 34:43Speaker 1: use all of our marketing, our name, and everything like that.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Plus they get the support.
- 34:47Speaker 1: So we typically meet with our franchisees like every month
- 34:51Speaker 1: just to make sure that they have everything that they need.
- 34:54Speaker 1: They contribute to the marketing fund. So the advantage is
- 34:56Speaker 1: that it's already an established brand. You don't have to
- 34:59Speaker 1: really figure everything on your own. You have some guidance
- 35:01Speaker 1: as opposed to you going and doing it by yourself.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Of course, you can still tap in with me and
- 35:05Speaker 1: I'll teach you how to start your own brand, but
- 35:07Speaker 1: you're starting a new brand. So you know, some people
- 35:10Speaker 1: just don't want to reinvent the wheel. They just you know,
- 35:13Speaker 1: they say, hey, if it's already established brand, let me
- 35:15Speaker 1: just buy into your brand. So our franchise fee is
- 35:17Speaker 1: thirty five thousand, and then it's five percent of royalties
- 35:21Speaker 1: off of your gross income.
- 35:23Speaker 2: So that's pretty much how it goes.
- 35:25Speaker 4: Are people that are leading from you. Obviously they can
- 35:29Speaker 4: look to you as the example of what success can
- 35:32Speaker 4: look like. Do you is there an education process as
- 35:36Speaker 4: they come into the suites and starting to see the
- 35:38Speaker 4: evolution of what you're doing, and are they trying to
- 35:41Speaker 4: model what you're doing or most people just focused on hey,
- 35:44Speaker 4: this is my client, let me just focus here and
- 35:46Speaker 4: missing the business of what you're actually building.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I think something some people get in some people
- 35:50Speaker 1: do miss it because there are some people like Sweat.
- 35:52Speaker 2: I mean, I've had actually students.
- 35:53Speaker 1: One of my students was she actually leased the suite
- 35:56Speaker 1: and she was super, super shy. She's one of the
- 35:58Speaker 1: people that we got two hundre that in TI. So
- 36:01Speaker 1: some people see it, they see the bigger picture picture.
- 36:03Speaker 2: They like sway.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Eventually, I want to get from behind the chair because
- 36:05Speaker 1: I always say this industry is amazing, but you can
- 36:07Speaker 1: get stuck in this industry.
- 36:08Speaker 2: When people say I've been coming from forty years, I'm.
- 36:10Speaker 1: Like, that's not a flex you know, you need to
- 36:12Speaker 1: figure something out, you know what I'm saying, Because you
- 36:13Speaker 1: can't only it's so much wear and tear on your body.
- 36:15Speaker 2: So some students get in, and there's some students that.
- 36:18Speaker 1: Or should I say tenants tendants that don't get it,
- 36:21Speaker 1: and I mean it just is what it is. But
- 36:23Speaker 1: to the ones that get it anytime they ask me,
- 36:25Speaker 1: I'm not one of those people where I'm gonna take
- 36:26Speaker 1: a person. If you go start your own brand, I'm
- 36:28Speaker 1: gonna actually help you, especially if you're a good tenant.
- 36:31Speaker 4: So because it feels like some people will see it
- 36:34Speaker 4: as a path to I guess quote unquote freedom to
- 36:37Speaker 4: our entrepreneurs, Yes.
- 36:38Speaker 5: But it could be a path to financial freedom if
- 36:40Speaker 5: structured the right way.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Structured the right way.
- 36:42Speaker 4: I like that you said that having one form of
- 36:44Speaker 4: paying system right zelle, then having all that get and
- 36:48Speaker 4: then the other part is we're getting the money, but
- 36:51Speaker 4: are we understanding.
- 36:52Speaker 5: Of taxes exactly over all the things?
- 36:56Speaker 1: Right?
- 36:56Speaker 4: Like, are you seeing that as we started into that,
- 37:00Speaker 4: are you seeing that more of the tenants are becoming
- 37:03Speaker 4: more financially literate about that?
- 37:05Speaker 5: Or like from your from your perspective.
- 37:08Speaker 2: A little bit, I would like to see more.
- 37:10Speaker 1: I still think it's too many people that's tapped out
- 37:12Speaker 1: of that and don't understand the importance of that. But
- 37:14Speaker 1: I do think more people are trying to take a
- 37:15Speaker 1: little bit serif serious because they understand that's the only
- 37:17Speaker 1: way to get from behind the chair to a front
- 37:20Speaker 1: of the chair, is what I like to call it.
- 37:22Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a slight increase, but it would it
- 37:24Speaker 1: would be nice if more people really just understood the
- 37:26Speaker 1: importance to that.
- 37:27Speaker 3: So from a real estate standpoint, if you're if you're renting, right,
- 37:30Speaker 3: how long do you think it'll take before you get
- 37:32Speaker 3: your money back because you got to pay for the upfront,
- 37:35Speaker 3: that's build out, all of that stuff.
- 37:37Speaker 1: So yeah, and like I said, it depends on so
- 37:39Speaker 1: many different factors. You know, if you get TI and
- 37:40Speaker 1: then you kind of getting your money right back. But
- 37:42Speaker 1: I like to say you see a return of your
- 37:44Speaker 1: investment a little quicker in this industry, I will say
- 37:46Speaker 1: on average, you know, a year to two years yep,
- 37:49Speaker 1: just again depending on how much you actually put it
- 37:51Speaker 1: into the build out. So like with me, I was
- 37:53Speaker 1: able to see my return within that first year, but
- 37:55Speaker 1: I had twelve months free rent. I didn't get any
- 37:58Speaker 1: TI that first location. And that's another thing. They don't
- 38:00Speaker 1: give you TI because sometimes you can run into that
- 38:02Speaker 1: LANDA was like, look, I don't give out money, so
- 38:04Speaker 1: that's when you wanted negotiate more free rent. So in
- 38:06Speaker 1: that case, I said, okay, well you can't give me
- 38:08Speaker 1: TI towards the buildout, will give me a year.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Of free rent.
- 38:10Speaker 1: And he actually did that and that was actually pretty
- 38:11Speaker 1: dope because our build out took I think maybe like
- 38:14Speaker 1: four months, so the rest of the year we were
- 38:16Speaker 1: able to not have to pay any rent.
- 38:18Speaker 4: Is the focus now on more franchises or creating more
- 38:23Speaker 4: locations for yourself?
- 38:25Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 38:25Speaker 1: So I actually sold the Encore brand about three years ago,
- 38:28Speaker 1: and I still work with them and help them franchise,
- 38:30Speaker 1: which I love that because it was kind of a
- 38:32Speaker 1: conflict of interest with me pushing the franchise and then
- 38:34Speaker 1: trying to promote my students because my franchisees were like, well,
- 38:37Speaker 1: why are you pushing their brand? So I love that
- 38:39Speaker 1: because this is really and it was always my plan.
- 38:41Speaker 1: So I always had an exit plan to exit or
- 38:43Speaker 1: you started correct, now it was ten locations, even though
- 38:46Speaker 1: we only made it to five, But that was always
- 38:49Speaker 1: my plan, was to pivot. So now I get to
- 38:51Speaker 1: just focus more on my students and my mentees.
- 38:54Speaker 2: So for me, I'm not opening any more locations.
- 38:57Speaker 1: I don't think so, I don't see myself doing that,
- 38:59Speaker 1: especially with me is diversifying my portfolio now now I'm
- 39:02Speaker 1: really into real estate on the restaurant in Midtown Call
- 39:04Speaker 1: and Cheese, So not for me, but still here to
- 39:07Speaker 1: always help my students.
- 39:08Speaker 6: Grow and ex man, So what made youself?
- 39:11Speaker 1: Like I said, it was always my plan, and I
- 39:14Speaker 1: just kind of reached up a point I want to say,
- 39:16Speaker 1: like the Pinnacle, but I started to just feel very
- 39:19Speaker 1: overwhelmed and I was like, Okay, I'm kind of just
- 39:21Speaker 1: ready to get into something else because I'm one of
- 39:23Speaker 1: the people who actually worked in this industry.
- 39:25Speaker 2: So I didn't just start with salon sweets.
- 39:26Speaker 1: I worked in the industry, and I just felt like
- 39:28Speaker 1: it was perfect timing to kind of get out when
- 39:31Speaker 1: things were going good, you know.
- 39:33Speaker 2: And so it worked out perfectly though.
- 39:35Speaker 4: So we got athletics, entertainment yep, hair and beauty yes,
- 39:41Speaker 4: and now we've got hospitality yes, and real well yeah,
- 39:48Speaker 4: hospital You want to talk about a business that's stressful.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Now see, I'm still new to it.
- 39:53Speaker 1: You know. We I got in I want to say,
- 39:54Speaker 1: maybe like three months ago, so it was an established
- 39:57Speaker 1: brand already, so they did pretty good they're just looking
- 40:00Speaker 1: for They just needed that growth partner, somebody who understood
- 40:03Speaker 1: how to really scale, how to franchise, how to have
- 40:05Speaker 1: systems in place, and stuff like that. So I'm still
- 40:08Speaker 1: getting my feet wet. It's a small establishment, so nothing
- 40:11Speaker 1: too crazy. So yeah, I'm still learning. We got to
- 40:14Speaker 1: cut I know that this listen. I'm in Atlanta, so
- 40:16Speaker 1: I see them flip restaurants every year. They changed the
- 40:19Speaker 1: name and they're closing. So I understand it's a challenging industry.
- 40:22Speaker 1: But I think my partner is pretty knowledgeable. And like
- 40:25Speaker 1: I said, we're starting out small, so I'm still learning.
- 40:27Speaker 4: What did diversification look like? You said, it's real estate,
- 40:30Speaker 4: but what type of real estate? Like, how did you
- 40:34Speaker 4: come to that point where Okay, yes I sold.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Obviously you've done it in a sort.
- 40:39Speaker 4: Of a way, right, like you're the landlord, correct, And
- 40:41Speaker 4: so what has fueled the passion now?
- 40:43Speaker 1: Yeah, So again just understanding that I needed to diversify.
- 40:47Speaker 1: So there was a few years ago I lost a
- 40:50Speaker 1: lot of money and I felt like if I would
- 40:52Speaker 1: have diversified, maybe it wouldn't have been such a hard hit.
- 40:55Speaker 1: And so now I'm just trying to find other investments,
- 40:58Speaker 1: silent investments, you know, safe hedge funds and stuff like that.
- 41:03Speaker 1: And with real estate, my sister is a realtor, and
- 41:06Speaker 1: so when I was actually going to look for my
- 41:07Speaker 1: own personal home, she would always say.
- 41:09Speaker 2: You know, why don't you build? Why don't you build?
- 41:11Speaker 1: And at first I was just like, no, I don't
- 41:12Speaker 1: feel like going through all of that, and so she
- 41:14Speaker 1: always wanted to be a developer, and so we got
- 41:16Speaker 1: into it together, hired a mentor, and we're still going
- 41:20Speaker 1: through that process. We've built two so far, we have
- 41:22Speaker 1: two that are still being built. So I actually really
- 41:25Speaker 1: really liked that. So I'm gonna start putting a lot
- 41:26Speaker 1: of focus into that. But our whole business model is,
- 41:30Speaker 1: for the most part, is we're going to build them
- 41:32Speaker 1: up and then we were able to sell them before
- 41:35Speaker 1: we really before we even finished they going to contract.
- 41:37Speaker 5: You didn't even know you're talking to two developers right now.
- 41:39Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. I didn't know. I see,
- 41:43Speaker 2: I'm seeing what y'all doing.
- 41:45Speaker 3: So going back to SILOSTI for a minute, if from
- 41:49Speaker 3: a worker standpoint, if somebody does nails or they cut
- 41:53Speaker 3: hair or eyebrows, whatever, what would you say to them
- 41:57Speaker 3: if they're deciding whether they should do it in a
- 42:01Speaker 3: traditional suite a salon, if they should do a salon suite,
- 42:06Speaker 3: or if they should just work out of their house
- 42:10Speaker 3: or if they're living room.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never encourage people to work out of their
- 42:13Speaker 1: house because I think it's just it's unprofessional. You know,
- 42:15Speaker 1: if you want that high level clientele that's going to
- 42:17Speaker 1: come and pay you a high price and tip you, you
- 42:19Speaker 1: don't really want them come into your house. But I think,
- 42:22Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, if you don't have clientele, go
- 42:25Speaker 1: into a traditional salam of barbershop. You can also learn
- 42:27Speaker 1: from your peers. You can build your clientele up. Once
- 42:29Speaker 1: you're established, you have consistent clientele, your books are pretty
- 42:33Speaker 1: much seventy five percent full, then I will consider a
- 42:36Speaker 1: salon suite. So I want to be very clear with
- 42:38Speaker 1: that because a lot of people just jump into it
- 42:39Speaker 1: because it's the popular thing, and then they're like, oh, shoot,
- 42:42Speaker 1: I can't keep up with this rent and I don't really.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Have too much help.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Now, I will say, though I do, even though I'm
- 42:47Speaker 1: not obligated to give them help, I still try to
- 42:50Speaker 1: bring in wealth advisors marketing agencies to come and speak
- 42:53Speaker 1: to the tenants and they appreciate that, just to show
- 42:56Speaker 1: that I do care about their business.
- 42:57Speaker 2: I do want them to be successful.
- 42:59Speaker 1: But for the most part, like I said, it's going
- 43:00Speaker 1: to be just if you're established, if you know how
- 43:02Speaker 1: to really be on your own and run your business,
- 43:04Speaker 1: then you can go into someone.
- 43:05Speaker 6: What's the most profitable one?
- 43:07Speaker 3: Like obviously haircuts it probably the lowest on Atlanta. They
- 43:10Speaker 3: charge a lot of money, but man what because then
- 43:14Speaker 3: it also the women hit braiders.
- 43:16Speaker 6: They make money, but it takes a long time.
- 43:18Speaker 3: It does so from a time standpoint, out of nails, eyebrows, barber, braiders,
- 43:25Speaker 3: traditional women's hair, which one is the most profitable.
- 43:28Speaker 2: I would say a cosmetologist, a hairstylist.
- 43:31Speaker 6: I think a woman's a woman's hairstyle.
- 43:33Speaker 1: And I mean in Atlanta, it's a lot of males
- 43:35Speaker 1: that do women here too, so and they killing it.
- 43:38Speaker 1: But I would say I think hair stylists because yes,
- 43:40Speaker 1: it does take longer, but they're charging sometimes five, six,
- 43:43Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars depending on how how good they are,
- 43:46Speaker 1: and typically the style lasts a long time, So I
- 43:48Speaker 1: would think a stylist.
- 43:49Speaker 2: But barbers can make pretty good money. I made pretty
- 43:51Speaker 2: good money.
- 43:52Speaker 1: When I was behind the chair, I was one of
- 43:54Speaker 1: those that you know, I consider myself a groomer.
- 43:56Speaker 2: I think there's a difference.
- 43:57Speaker 1: And I had high pricing, but I gave them a
- 43:59Speaker 1: true VIP service because I think you have to justify
- 44:02Speaker 1: the price. And Atlanta a lot of people just jacking
- 44:04Speaker 1: up these prices just because everybody else is doing it.
- 44:06Speaker 1: And it's like, you can't have a high price and
- 44:08Speaker 1: think somebody's going to come and pay and you're not
- 44:10Speaker 1: even on time, or you're you're not even cleaning your
- 44:13Speaker 1: your equipment and stuff like that.
- 44:14Speaker 2: So you got to justify the price.
- 44:17Speaker 5: Shampoo service, hot towel, oh goodness, exactly.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Get the hair right because it's even different the wigs,
- 44:23Speaker 3: correct extensions for the audience. Explain the price points for
- 44:28Speaker 3: like the different tiers of women's hair.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Yeah, So, to be honest with you, I don't I
- 44:33Speaker 1: don't know that I know the up to date price,
- 44:35Speaker 1: you know, to be honest.
- 44:36Speaker 2: With you, but yeah, you tell me for it.
- 44:38Speaker 5: It's still.
- 44:40Speaker 2: One hundred for sure.
- 44:41Speaker 4: Easily we changed hair styles. So I have a wife
- 44:44Speaker 4: and her daughter. Okay, uh, she had a hairstyle last
- 44:48Speaker 4: year and she was the person charged her two hundred.
- 44:51Speaker 4: She wanted to redo it this year, and they charging
- 44:53Speaker 4: the six hundred style.
- 44:55Speaker 2: She went up four hundred.
- 44:57Speaker 5: I'm just trying to sing out, like what's going on?
- 44:58Speaker 4: So, like I mean, becomes tricky, right, braids Obviously a
- 45:02Speaker 4: lot of times Black women summertime, if they're going away vacations, beaches, pools,
- 45:09Speaker 4: usually they're going with braids.
- 45:10Speaker 5: So that's I mean.
- 45:11Speaker 4: As a dad, I'm like, damn, I got the kids
- 45:13Speaker 4: for the next twelve hours, you.
- 45:15Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
- 45:15Speaker 4: So that cause you know, whether it's so wins lace front,
- 45:20Speaker 4: there's just so much that goes into it, which is
- 45:22Speaker 4: why I think that that would probably be be the
- 45:25Speaker 4: profession or that's don't have them.
- 45:27Speaker 6: Like just when he said Atlanta Tay is the best.
- 45:31Speaker 3: He's so that guy does wigs right, Yes, he specialized
- 45:35Speaker 3: in with I think he lives in New York now,
- 45:37Speaker 3: So that's a whole specialty within itself.
- 45:40Speaker 6: Like just wigs.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Correct, It's all about how you lay it in and
- 45:44Speaker 1: make it not look like a wig.
- 45:45Speaker 2: That's the key.
- 45:45Speaker 4: You know, some people you got if they don't get
- 45:47Speaker 4: that making okay, if they don't.
- 45:48Speaker 2: Get the make up, because like hold on now.
- 45:50Speaker 5: They look like wig that middle part.
- 45:52Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Has to transition real nice. And so that that's the
- 45:55Speaker 1: difference right there. If you know how to put that
- 45:56Speaker 1: lace on on, it doesn't it looks like your natural hair,
- 45:59Speaker 1: that blend, that blend, you know what I mean, then
- 46:00Speaker 1: you can charge those pricing. But a lot of people
- 46:02Speaker 1: aren't aren't so good at that.
- 46:03Speaker 4: So this is a I mean, I'm seeing a lot
- 46:07Speaker 4: of people going to the space, whether it's nail tax.
- 46:10Speaker 4: We just we just came from a school where a
- 46:12Speaker 4: young girl created an owned neil tech.
- 46:13Speaker 5: Business fifteen years old. Oh nice, which is incredible.
- 46:17Speaker 4: But it speaks to me of competitive business competition. How
- 46:23Speaker 4: or what are you seeing that separates people to grab
- 46:28Speaker 4: more attention because there's a lot of people it's a
- 46:30Speaker 4: mastheticians like hair nail tag.
- 46:34Speaker 1: That's why I'm so excited to be at investments because
- 46:36Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, this is a really big industry.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Got I mean millions of people that's in this industry.
- 46:42Speaker 2: But I think that.
- 46:45Speaker 1: I would say, I always say, if you can just
- 46:48Speaker 1: simply be on time, I think that's sets you apart
- 46:50Speaker 1: right there. Really, I'm just being honest. In Atlanta, just
- 46:52Speaker 1: as a barber. As a barber too, you don't even
- 46:54Speaker 1: have to be the greatest. If you have good customer service,
- 46:57Speaker 1: that sets you apart right there.
- 46:58Speaker 2: I mean they don't. That's terrible.
- 47:00Speaker 3: On time to come into work or on time as
- 47:02Speaker 3: far as you running over with your appointments, on.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Time for your appointment.
- 47:05Speaker 1: So if you have an eight o'clock at eight am appointment,
- 47:07Speaker 1: be there at seven fifty and be ready to.
- 47:09Speaker 6: Start, you know what I'm saying. Like, because that's another
- 47:11Speaker 6: thing too.
- 47:11Speaker 3: Though Barbara could set a time at one o'clock, he's
- 47:14Speaker 3: already there, but his client comes fifteen late, even it's late,
- 47:19Speaker 3: and then now and then he's so now that one
- 47:21Speaker 3: o'clock turned to a one forty five.
- 47:22Speaker 2: Right now, everybody else after that this late exactly.
- 47:25Speaker 1: So that's why I would say, I think it was
- 47:26Speaker 1: like a ten minutes, and then after that I just
- 47:29Speaker 1: can't do you because of that, everybody else now has
- 47:31Speaker 1: to be late because you were late.
- 47:32Speaker 6: And do you have the pre best practices? You prepay?
- 47:36Speaker 2: Yes, I try an app on the app?
- 47:38Speaker 6: What's the app? The cut? That's the cut.
- 47:40Speaker 1: I was using Southsea at the time. So they took
- 47:42Speaker 1: a deposit at first and then Squire is you know Squire, Yeah,
- 47:45Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Squire.
- 47:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:47Speaker 1: I would take the deposit at first and then the
- 47:48Speaker 1: balance would be charged. But if it was a no show,
- 47:50Speaker 1: I charged the full price.
- 47:53Speaker 3: But when you just stag good on their credit card
- 47:54Speaker 3: on their credit card and you only do you only
- 47:57Speaker 3: take appointments through the app, yes, somebody can't and just
- 48:00Speaker 3: text you on them.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Absolutely not absolutely Now I started out like that, but
- 48:03Speaker 1: again it's not it's not professional.
- 48:06Speaker 2: It's more professional.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Should I say, to actually use an app because the
- 48:08Speaker 1: app is going to help you with the reporting? The
- 48:10Speaker 1: apps most apps nowadays they said reminders. You know, I
- 48:13Speaker 1: think a follow up is so important to really retain
- 48:15Speaker 1: clients too. It's like after they leave, you should be
- 48:17Speaker 1: already trying to book their next appointment. And then with
- 48:19Speaker 1: these apps, you can set up a reminder and say, hey,
- 48:21Speaker 1: hey Troy, you haven't been in the barbershop in a
- 48:23Speaker 1: few weeks. You want to book an appointment. So it's
- 48:24Speaker 1: a lot of benefits to using the app. And then,
- 48:27Speaker 1: like I said, you got the pay that's going through
- 48:28Speaker 1: one avenue so you can see your clear reporting. But
- 48:31Speaker 1: I definitely recommend apps. I used to do texts and I.
- 48:35Speaker 2: Can't believe I was doing that, but you know, be
- 48:37Speaker 2: live and learn.
- 48:38Speaker 3: So what if you got a good client and they like,
- 48:40Speaker 3: I'm not, do you have a make exceptions?
- 48:43Speaker 2: Not really?
- 48:44Speaker 1: Well, te Pain, I did, just because he kind of
- 48:46Speaker 1: called me randomly and it was just if I was available.
- 48:49Speaker 1: I still set that tone that like, I'm not just
- 48:51Speaker 1: up jumping for you. You still have to respect my
- 48:53Speaker 1: time because there was a point of time where I
- 48:54Speaker 1: would go to him and he would have me waiting
- 48:56Speaker 1: like forty five minutes to an hour.
- 48:57Speaker 6: Yeah, what about that, that's big tool.
- 48:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:59Speaker 1: The first two times I was like, okay, hold on, like,
- 49:01Speaker 1: I'm not I could have been doing something else with
- 49:03Speaker 1: my time. And what I love about him, what I
- 49:05Speaker 1: respect about him is once I communicated that to him
- 49:07Speaker 1: and said, looks the pain when I come in, we
- 49:08Speaker 1: already only doing the size anyway, he had dreads, so
- 49:12Speaker 1: I'm like, when I come in, I need this just
- 49:13Speaker 1: to get straight to what I have other things going on.
- 49:15Speaker 2: And he respected that. So going forward, mind you, his stylist,
- 49:18Speaker 2: she was like, this is what he does.
- 49:19Speaker 1: I've been with him for years. He's always late. I said,
- 49:21Speaker 1: oh well, I can't do this, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:23Speaker 1: So he respected that and he was on time. But
- 49:25Speaker 1: when it comes to celebrity clientele, I think that's the
- 49:28Speaker 1: thing is set in the tone, letting them know that
- 49:30Speaker 1: your time is just as valuable. You know, I'm not
- 49:31Speaker 1: about to come sit on set for six hours and
- 49:34Speaker 1: you still paying me for this one service where I
- 49:36Speaker 1: could have.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Been with my consistent, loyal clients.
- 49:39Speaker 1: But people would jump for celebrities and abandon their clients,
- 49:42Speaker 1: and I don't think that that's a good decision at all.
- 49:43Speaker 2: So you gotta be real mind celebrity. I think sometimes
- 49:47Speaker 2: I think it can be.
- 49:48Speaker 1: You know, it looks cool. I guess it's cool to
- 49:50Speaker 1: say I cut tee pains here. Am I going to
- 49:52Speaker 1: get a ton of clients from it?
- 49:54Speaker 2: I don't think so. It more so just looks cool.
- 49:56Speaker 2: But I think it just has to make sense.
- 49:57Speaker 1: And I think you should prioritize you're a consistent clientele
- 50:01Speaker 1: one hundred pcent because they're the ones that's coming to
- 50:02Speaker 1: you every single week and just paying consistently, So it's
- 50:05Speaker 1: pros and cons to it.
- 50:07Speaker 4: I heard a discipline, yeah, go, I hear a structure.
- 50:11Speaker 4: I hit a system. We have this conversation all the
- 50:15Speaker 4: time as entrepreneur as men balance, Uh huh, what does
- 50:21Speaker 4: that even mean for you in this space?
- 50:23Speaker 2: Man? Just living life?
- 50:25Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we get caught up and just working
- 50:27Speaker 1: so much, and it's like, you know, you want to
- 50:28Speaker 1: actually enjoy the fruits of your labor. So I think
- 50:30Speaker 1: that that's important to have balance. So with me, I
- 50:33Speaker 1: had to learn that I needed more help and I'm
- 50:35Speaker 1: still learning that right now. Me and twin are actually
- 50:36Speaker 1: trying to hire somebody else right now because we just
- 50:38Speaker 1: continue to keep growing. But I think it's so important
- 50:41Speaker 1: to live life, you know what I mean, whatever that
- 50:43Speaker 1: looks like for you, if that's going on vacation, if
- 50:45Speaker 1: that's spending time with your family, if that's just you
- 50:47Speaker 1: sitting at home watching TV.
- 50:48Speaker 2: Finding that balance.
- 50:49Speaker 1: So I try to really work off of a schedule
- 50:52Speaker 1: that's really helpful for me, Like this is what time
- 50:54Speaker 1: I'm going to work at this time I'm going to
- 50:56Speaker 1: turn my brain off and relax. So I think just
- 50:58Speaker 1: you know, like I said, having a scale really helps
- 51:00Speaker 1: with that with that balance for sure, because you can
- 51:02Speaker 1: get caught up working too much.
- 51:03Speaker 3: So how'd you get into teaching about this? And explain
- 51:07Speaker 3: that side of what you're doing now as far as
- 51:10Speaker 3: like educating people.
- 51:11Speaker 2: Absolutely, so a couple of people would ask me to
- 51:13Speaker 2: help them.
- 51:13Speaker 1: So I did a little consulting before I actually had
- 51:15Speaker 1: my program, and I said, okay, that was kind of
- 51:17Speaker 1: the era of everybody was kind of dropping courses.
- 51:19Speaker 2: So I said, well, hell, let me go ahead and
- 51:21Speaker 2: drop my course as well.
- 51:22Speaker 1: And that was a whole process in itself, but we
- 51:25Speaker 1: were able to do that. We started off pretty slow,
- 51:28Speaker 1: once I understood like ads paying for ads and stuff.
- 51:30Speaker 1: We were able to scale pretty quickly with that, and
- 51:33Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed that because from
- 51:35Speaker 1: when we get real results. So I'm not one of
- 51:37Speaker 1: the courses that's just talking and you don't see real results.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I mean, my testimonials are crazy, I can't even post
- 51:43Speaker 1: them all online.
- 51:44Speaker 2: But we get real results. I'm really big on my reputation.
- 51:47Speaker 1: I'm really big on over delivering and making sure you
- 51:49Speaker 1: get what you pay for and some so with our mentorship,
- 51:52Speaker 1: you know, we have our course where it's more do
- 51:53Speaker 1: it yourself, So if you want to just get the information,
- 51:55Speaker 1: do it yourself. But then we have a higher tier,
- 51:57Speaker 1: which is the Ender Circle where like I said, we
- 51:59Speaker 1: do everything thing for you, so from credit repair to
- 52:02Speaker 1: funding to having a realtor come online helping you pick
- 52:06Speaker 1: a location. Like I said, Trademark Attorney. We have a
- 52:11Speaker 1: wealth of buyers that come in so just a full
- 52:13Speaker 1: package and it's a year program and like I said,
- 52:16Speaker 1: we can pretty much help anybody in any situation. So
- 52:19Speaker 1: I really really enjoy it. We have I've trained over
- 52:21Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people and we do free weekly trainings
- 52:24Speaker 1: every single week for people that want to get into
- 52:26Speaker 1: the industry.
- 52:27Speaker 2: But it's going great so far. I really really enjoy it.
- 52:29Speaker 5: What's that feeling like?
- 52:30Speaker 4: We've been on the other side of that where you
- 52:32Speaker 4: get people information, they execute on information. It changes their life, yes, right,
- 52:37Speaker 4: which changes their communities life, change their family life.
- 52:39Speaker 5: What's that like for you?
- 52:40Speaker 1: Man? It's really it's really amazing because I remember what
- 52:43Speaker 1: I went through and so it's kind of dope to
- 52:46Speaker 1: be able to be the other people what I wish
- 52:47Speaker 1: I had when I was growing up, because man, if
- 52:49Speaker 1: I could have just had one person to call to
- 52:51Speaker 1: ask a question, I would have paid anything. That's that's
- 52:53Speaker 1: how bad it was for me. So when I see
- 52:55Speaker 1: my students actually cut that red ribbon. It really genuinely
- 52:58Speaker 1: makes me proud, you know, because we're all out here
- 52:59Speaker 1: trying to just create more sources and inclement and reset
- 53:02Speaker 1: financial freedom. So I love it. I love the students
- 53:07Speaker 1: that actually come in and want it. You know, there's
- 53:08Speaker 1: a lot of people who tap in who just don't
- 53:10Speaker 1: have the work ethic, they don't understand what it takes.
- 53:13Speaker 1: But I love when I get those people that come in.
- 53:14Speaker 1: They're serious, they're coachable, they listen, and they execute. So
- 53:19Speaker 1: I love it.
- 53:20Speaker 2: I really really do.
- 53:21Speaker 6: So talk about invest has What do you have planning
- 53:23Speaker 6: for invests?
- 53:24Speaker 2: Yeah, invest fast. I'm bringing some heavy haaters.
- 53:26Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm really excited that we get to
- 53:27Speaker 1: bring this industry, you know, into investments because it's a
- 53:31Speaker 1: lot of people that attend that you know, we didn't
- 53:33Speaker 1: necessarily from what I recall, I have anything specifically targeting
- 53:37Speaker 1: this industry.
- 53:37Speaker 2: So I'm bringing in bb Judy.
- 53:39Speaker 1: You know, she owns Kaleidoscope, which is a very big
- 53:41Speaker 1: hair product, Sierra Glam Shop.
- 53:43Speaker 2: She also was an.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Esthetician turned salon owner and now she does a bunch
- 53:47Speaker 1: of other things as well. And then Portia Williams also
- 53:50Speaker 1: owns a hair brand, Go Naked. She's grossed over tillion
- 53:53Speaker 1: with her hair brand. So just trying to show people
- 53:55Speaker 1: how to pivot, you know, how to get from A
- 53:57Speaker 1: lot of us started actually in the same position that
- 53:59Speaker 1: most of them are in right now, behind the chair.
- 54:01Speaker 1: But how do you pivot because again, you can get
- 54:03Speaker 1: stuck in there. You know, there's this eighty year old
- 54:05Speaker 1: barber in Atlanta that still cuts here and I'm like, God, dang,
- 54:08Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, having to be eighty and
- 54:10Speaker 1: still having a cut.
- 54:11Speaker 2: And maybe he does it because he just loves it.
- 54:12Speaker 2: I hope that that's the case.
- 54:14Speaker 1: But I just think it's so important that you have
- 54:15Speaker 1: a plan on how to get from behind that chair because,
- 54:17Speaker 1: like I said, it's a lot of wear and tear.
- 54:19Speaker 1: I mean, people don't even understand the importance of a mat.
- 54:21Speaker 1: They think a matter is just for looks, and it's like, no,
- 54:23Speaker 1: that's the help with your back.
- 54:25Speaker 2: You know, your.
- 54:25Speaker 1: Posture needs to be good because people get all kind
- 54:27Speaker 1: of cramps in their hands and wrights, all kinds of
- 54:30Speaker 1: stuff you can get. So I'm excited to bring people
- 54:33Speaker 1: to invest fast that started where a lot of the
- 54:35Speaker 1: beauty pros are now and are going to teach them
- 54:37Speaker 1: and just show them and show them that it's possible
- 54:39Speaker 1: to create another source of income, whether it's in this
- 54:42Speaker 1: industry or not, whether it's a hair brand, a product,
- 54:46Speaker 1: a salon, a salon suite, but you got to have
- 54:48Speaker 1: some type of plan for that next level.
- 54:50Speaker 4: I'm super excited big business, Yes, big business. I'm happy
- 54:53Speaker 4: that that you're going to be there. I'm atually bringing
- 54:55Speaker 4: that and the community's going to be there excited for it.
- 54:58Speaker 5: I'll be there in the front row washing.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited.
- 55:00Speaker 1: And then I got the workshop as well, so that'll
- 55:02Speaker 1: be more focused on salon suites.
- 55:03Speaker 2: But the panel is just overall here and beauty.
- 55:06Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been trying to get some.
- 55:08Speaker 4: The same woman that does my son's here his braids,
- 55:11Speaker 4: does my daughter's here, okay, And my wife always talks
- 55:14Speaker 4: about how when they get their head done there, she
- 55:18Speaker 4: must be using a product.
- 55:19Speaker 5: And I'm like, yo, you got to create a product
- 55:21Speaker 5: that scales. I need you. The same thing that you're
- 55:23Speaker 5: saying is what I'm saying.
- 55:24Speaker 4: You got to figure out the plan to not be
- 55:26Speaker 4: behind that chat and that product might be the thing.
- 55:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be the thing.
- 55:30Speaker 1: Yep, you just got to do it the right way
- 55:31Speaker 1: and do your research and just be willing to put
- 55:33Speaker 1: into work.
- 55:33Speaker 2: You know. They see all this stuff, they think it's
- 55:34Speaker 2: overnight success.
- 55:36Speaker 1: They don't understand it takes a lot to really set
- 55:38Speaker 1: it up so that you can actually retire. So that's
- 55:40Speaker 1: the thing too, is understanding. Look, it's going to require
- 55:42Speaker 1: some work. It may be some long days. You may
- 55:44Speaker 1: have to come home from doing six heads and then
- 55:46Speaker 1: have to tap into something.
- 55:47Speaker 2: But it's just what it takes.
- 55:49Speaker 1: You got to you know, like et says, always say,
- 55:51Speaker 1: you got to want to succeed as bad as you
- 55:52Speaker 1: want to breathe.
- 55:53Speaker 2: And I tell people, when you.
- 55:54Speaker 1: Put in that work, you know, it pays off you
- 55:56Speaker 1: put in the work either way you put it in.
- 55:58Speaker 1: You know, for people that work a nine to five,
- 55:59Speaker 1: You putting in to work for somebody that did believe.
- 56:01Speaker 1: So you might as well put in that same work
- 56:04Speaker 1: over here and eventually at a payoff and you will
- 56:06Speaker 1: have more control and just more financial stability, which.
- 56:09Speaker 2: Is what we're all.
- 56:10Speaker 5: She will be at an invest best.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Okay, cool bees, maya talking to you, Yes, maya come
- 56:15Speaker 1: check it out.
- 56:15Speaker 5: We're gonna make sure that you're right there listening to this.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a lot of opporunities where you can
- 56:19Speaker 1: even white label products exactly you can white label. A
- 56:21Speaker 1: lot of people actually do that, they don't know, but
- 56:23Speaker 1: it's a lot of opportunities within the industry as well.
- 56:26Speaker 1: You know, people always talk about all these sources and
- 56:28Speaker 1: income you need, but I think you should always squeeze
- 56:30Speaker 1: as much out the limen first. A lot of times
- 56:32Speaker 1: you can create a second and third third source within
- 56:34Speaker 1: that same industry if you understand it, and if you're
- 56:37Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you know, a lot of
- 56:39Speaker 1: people don't know stuff. You know, as y'all know, you
- 56:41Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, you also can't do
- 56:43Speaker 1: what you don't know. So that's why it's so impoorant.
- 56:45Speaker 1: You know, proximity is so imporant coming to invest best.
- 56:47Speaker 1: I've been there every single year from the very beginning,
- 56:50Speaker 1: and every time we were there, me and my twin
- 56:51Speaker 1: would walk through and say, now, why we didn't get
- 56:53Speaker 1: a benner? Why didn't we always walk through and be like, man,
- 56:56Speaker 1: we should have really been a part of this. So
- 56:58Speaker 1: I'm just super excited. Were doing a real big bringing
- 57:01Speaker 1: a lot of heavy hitters, and I'm just excited to
- 57:03Speaker 1: just impact the people in this industry specifically, so.
- 57:06Speaker 3: And talking about like different income streams that people can
- 57:11Speaker 3: make for me, Like you said.
- 57:12Speaker 6: Like Gus, you can have a product, yep.
- 57:14Speaker 3: Product, you can teach, a course, yep, you can you know,
- 57:19Speaker 3: sell merch, like for a barbera, a hair salon person.
- 57:26Speaker 3: What how can they make different streams of income for themselves.
- 57:29Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you said, a product, it could be merch.
- 57:32Speaker 1: Like you said, it can be trainings, teaching other people
- 57:35Speaker 1: how to do what you're doing. It can be a salon,
- 57:37Speaker 1: a barbershop, a salon suite that you eventually own. It
- 57:41Speaker 1: can be events that you do that you're teaching, and
- 57:43Speaker 1: trade school. Yes, yep, teaching and trade school. I think
- 57:48Speaker 1: that's for the most unless I'm missing some you know,
- 57:50Speaker 1: a beauty supply store. Uh, I think for the most part,
- 57:54Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it. Yeah,
- 57:58Speaker 1: I could be missing a couple.
- 57:59Speaker 5: But but the project thing is so wide range it is.
- 58:02Speaker 4: It could be the shampoo, it could be a condition,
- 58:05Speaker 4: it could be a cone exactly.
- 58:06Speaker 5: There's so many different.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Things could beijing. It would be all kinds of different stuff.
- 58:12Speaker 1: So the key with that, as any business, it's just marketing,
- 58:14Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because anybody I think it's
- 58:16Speaker 1: pretty easy to white label something, but people think, oh
- 58:18Speaker 1: I have a product, now it's just going to sell,
- 58:19Speaker 1: and it's like it's a whole another ballgame. You gotta
- 58:21Speaker 1: really understand that marketing and invest in that marketing because
- 58:24Speaker 1: people don't like to spend money, but got to spend
- 58:27Speaker 1: it to make it for sure.
- 58:29Speaker 3: All right, gosh, there you have it before we leave,
- 58:32Speaker 3: telling people how to.
- 58:33Speaker 6: Follow you absolutely on social media, website anything like that. Yep.
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- 58:39Speaker 1: The website for my free life training is the sln
- 58:42Speaker 1: swite model dot com. That's where you can see my course.
- 58:44Speaker 1: My training is my inner circle and then YouTube is
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- 58:48Speaker 4: So it's a pleasure having you absolutely, thanks for having me,
- 58:50Speaker 4: thanks for joining us.
- 58:51Speaker 6: Thank you you guys. Next week