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Kristoffer Polaha Interview · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast. Welcome to Girls Gone Hamewark,
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  Speaker 1: a Hallmark review podcast. I'm Megan and I'm a longtime
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark fan. I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater. On
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  Speaker 1: today's episode, we are joined once again by one of
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  Speaker 1: our personal favorites, mister Chris Palaha, to talk about Hallmark.
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  Speaker 1: But we have also so many things outside of the
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark universe that we want to dig into today with you.
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  Speaker 1: But first, thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 2: Hi Megan, Hi Wendy, Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Today we do have to talk about Missing the Boat.
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  Speaker 1: We just watched it, we just reviewed it. That review
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  Speaker 1: drop us today in real time. Fans loved it. We
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  Speaker 1: loved it. We loved it like laughed.
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  Speaker 2: Out like fans loved it much. You gotta talk.
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  Speaker 1: I left out loud so many times, and I have
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  Speaker 1: to tell you that's not usually like I enjoy Hallmark.
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  Speaker 1: But the comedy in this was next level, I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like it tapped into something that we
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  Speaker 1: don't see you get the opportunity to do. They're like,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna let Chris be the romance guy. And did
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  Speaker 1: you feel like that too? Like they let you run
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  Speaker 1: a little bit with the comedy.
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  Speaker 2: So McClean nelson, who who who directed A Small Town
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  Speaker 2: Christmas and who was kind of bold enough to let
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  Speaker 2: me play Jimmy Stewart in that movie, like literally called
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  Speaker 2: my agent and said, I'll do small Town Christmas. But
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  Speaker 2: the script is it is it is wanting, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it if I can do it as Jimmy Stewart.
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  Speaker 2: And he relayed that to Hallmark, and Hallmark relaid that
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  Speaker 2: to McClain nelson and he when the first day I
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  Speaker 2: met him, he's like, so are you serious? Are you really?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, no, I'm going to do it
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  Speaker 2: as Jimmy Stewart. And he's like, you'd literally the voice.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, yeah, that's what are you
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  Speaker 2: I mean. He's like, he's like, I just I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to not get hired again. And I said, trust
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  Speaker 2: you'll get hired again. I said, it'll work, Please trust me,
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  Speaker 2: and he did trust me. And we had this little
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  Speaker 2: thing where he would go, You're like, take it like
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  Speaker 2: to ten on the Jimmy Stewart or take it down
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. And so we regulated this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this accent where he was like literally just kind of
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  Speaker 2: doing this thing, and so McLean and I very quickly
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  Speaker 2: learned to have a shorthand with one another. And when
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  Speaker 2: Hallmark greenlit Missing the Boat, it was he was working
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  Speaker 2: on another movie entirely, and it was a very quick
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  Speaker 2: turnaround because they knew they wanted to give me a
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  Speaker 2: second movie, and so they put it in the pipeline
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  Speaker 2: very very quickly, and they and McClain knew that he
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  Speaker 2: was writing and doing like a rewrite basically for me,
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  Speaker 2: and he was like, all right, I'm going to do
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  Speaker 2: this in Chris's voice, and so he was. And he
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  Speaker 2: said to me, he was like, it was really easy
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  Speaker 2: knowing that you were going to be my actor. I
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  Speaker 2: had like your voice in my head as I was
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  Speaker 2: writing it, and so it was interestingly we had I
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  Speaker 2: had this kind of tailor made part with Missing the Boat,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm never had the chance to be that broad
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  Speaker 2: in any of my work ever outside of Hallmark or otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Like I mean, I did a comedy for ABC years
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  Speaker 2: ago called Misguided. That was Ashton Kutcher produced it and
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  Speaker 2: Chris Parnell and Judy Greer and and even that was
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  Speaker 2: very it was funny, but it was very nice.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Parnell who's in mimics with you. Also, we are
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  Speaker 1: our work, my friends. That's so fun. I'm sorry to
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  Speaker 1: interrupt you. That's just we were just looking at that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, So it was fun like it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was a and you know, you never know what
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  Speaker 2: the Hallmark audience is going to like or if they're
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  Speaker 2: not going to like things, and the response was overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: I said to McLain, I was like, dude, my inbox
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  Speaker 2: is just getting slammed with a lot of high praise.
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  Speaker 2: And he was like, are you serious. He's like, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, man, people are people to dig in it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's nice to hear that you ladies enjoy it
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  Speaker 2: as well. Well.
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  Speaker 1: It was a nice team. Look, we're big fans of
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  Speaker 1: McLean Nelson's work too. I think it came through really
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  Speaker 1: strongly in hall The Halloween, like those those quick comedic takes.
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  Speaker 1: You can see his fingerprints on that. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like we have kind of gotten to the point where
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  Speaker 1: you can with some of these directors, start really recognizing
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  Speaker 1: their styles and you resonate with some of them, and
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  Speaker 1: when we see like McLean Nelson, we're like, I'm in
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a good time. No matter what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here, but also with you and Emelia, which
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  Speaker 1: we have to admit wem has pronounced her name for
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  Speaker 1: the last five years of this podcast, so we are
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  Speaker 1: call Yeah, you were so weird.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I have it in my phone E, M,
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  Speaker 2: I L I E, and then I have it in parentheses.
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  Speaker 1: Amelia's always like, I know, we feel terrible, but we
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  Speaker 1: are rectifying our wrongs. But the pairing of the two
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  Speaker 1: of you just fires. I mean I said it on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like you both were firing on all
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  Speaker 1: cylinders that entire movie. So we loved it awesome. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You did mention that you do like the rumor was
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  Speaker 1: that you had two Hallmark movies coming down the pipeline.
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  Speaker 1: There is another one coming this year with you. Is
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  Speaker 1: that No, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Christmas. It was two so it was Christmas at the
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  Speaker 2: Opry and Missing the Boat.
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  Speaker 1: Got It. Aprey was really great too. Lost loved it.
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  Speaker 2: That was a really special movie, specifically for NICKI I
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  Speaker 2: thought that for her to have that full circle moment
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  Speaker 2: with her daddy. And I know she's mentioned this before,
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  Speaker 2: but the grief of she worked with Claire Claire needed
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  Speaker 2: Prum was McLain Nelson's wife at one point, they're no
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  Speaker 2: longer very good when they worked. When NICKI worked the
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  Speaker 2: first time with Claire, she had found out that her
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  Speaker 2: father was or her father was about to die and
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  Speaker 2: their film rapped, and the whole time she was kind
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  Speaker 2: of on death watch waiting, and then the film rapped
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  Speaker 2: and she was able to fly to Atlanta and be
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  Speaker 2: with her daddy bedside when he passed, and so that
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  Speaker 2: began this chapter of griefer and so then for them
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  Speaker 2: to work together again and at a place where her
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  Speaker 2: daddy even said when she was a little girl, He's like,
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  Speaker 2: one day you're going to be on that stage. And
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  Speaker 2: she was like, Dad, I'm not a singer. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to be on the oper and he's like, and
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  Speaker 2: so then it was almost like it was a godwink.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was a moment for her and you
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  Speaker 2: could watch her healing and then for her character to
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  Speaker 2: go back in time and reconcile with a fictional father
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  Speaker 2: and for that to be the storyline, which, to be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, I thought that's the part I was
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  Speaker 2: going to play. When I got the script and the offer,
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  Speaker 2: I wrote, well, interesting, Yeah, and I thought. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing the dad this time. I was like, that's
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  Speaker 2: cool because my character didn't have a ton of agency,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I was there really
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  Speaker 2: just you know, a boyfriend that really loved the girl,
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  Speaker 2: which was a fun role for me to play. But
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  Speaker 2: it's a great script. I think it was a great script.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought for NICKI it was a really wonderful
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  Speaker 2: real life moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't know that backstory no either all and
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  Speaker 1: so now it makes it the movie experience as a
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  Speaker 1: viewer much more rich. And I was so drawn to
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  Speaker 1: that story, like as a you know, a daughter myself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was so drawn to the father daughter story
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  Speaker 1: in that movie. It was really good, really.
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  Speaker 2: Good, especially if you've lost your if you've lost a parent,
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  Speaker 2: like when you crave for one more minute with them,
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  Speaker 2: right or or any person that you love, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a child, deeban or a friend or whatever spouse you
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  Speaker 2: you just yearned for one more minute.
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  Speaker 1: I was honestly kind of surprised it did not win
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  Speaker 1: the brackets Oh our girls gone hamewark, Oh let's not
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  Speaker 1: go there, I mean, sorry to result in then I
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  Speaker 1: assumed it would win. I felt like it hit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe obviously it came close. People love.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised too. I think this is the
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  Speaker 2: first one in a while. It hasn't that I haven't
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  Speaker 2: had a I know, I know. I also lost the deck,
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  Speaker 2: the Hallmark Leading Male Award. Oh no, we saw small.
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  Speaker 2: There was a small dip in the in the palaha.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't never all the time, you know, never.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta let someone shine every now and then.
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  Speaker 2: You got to give it to Robert Buckley every once
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  Speaker 2: in a while.
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  Speaker 1: Robert Buckley not Junior. We have a long history with
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  Speaker 1: We have actually no history with Robert Buckley, but we've
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  Speaker 1: always called him he was a junior. For a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I was convinced that his name was Robert Buckley Junior
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  Speaker 1: and called him that on the podcast many times. We
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  Speaker 1: call him Robert Buckley.
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  Speaker 2: Not r Yeah, it's it's it's Emily Uller and Christopher.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Robert Buckley and I did something years ago.
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  Speaker 2: So do you guys remember Life Unexpected?
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch I watched it? Yeah, just I
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  Speaker 1: watched it last summer.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's fun, right, it's a fun little yes,
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think Robert Buckley was
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  Speaker 2: on One Tree Hill and he and I got to
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  Speaker 2: host it is the I think back on this and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what was my life? We got to
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  Speaker 2: host the CW's Upfronts, which is this giant presentation they
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  Speaker 2: do advertisers at Madison's Square Garden. Wow, We're on a
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  Speaker 2: stage at Madison Square Garden, Robert Buckley and I and
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  Speaker 2: we're introducing all of the new shows, and Katie Perry
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  Speaker 2: were like, ladies and gentlemen, bring out Katie pair and
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  Speaker 2: we're just riffing on stage. And I think back on
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: that moment, I'm like, whoa, whoa, that was, Like what
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  Speaker 2: was all that? Like? What?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What was that minute? So Robert, he's a good dude, nice.
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  Speaker 1: I like him. Well, I like him. Just if you
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  Speaker 1: were wondering. Ma Megan silence, She's like, I love no, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, yeah, genuinely, big fan. Let's talk about American
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  Speaker 1: Hostage for a second. Sure, that's a big project that
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  Speaker 1: has John Hamm in it, right correct. I was looking.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing some research last night, and IMDb is
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  Speaker 1: a little confusing because it shows that it was a
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: podcast series it looks like and then it shows the
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: series the television series that you guys are doing, and
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out it's not both IMDBs
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  Speaker 1: are not complete. So I was like, who is he
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  Speaker 1: in this? Or are you in this? Or what?
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  Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. I am the American hostage. So
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  Speaker 2: for me, it was me in Jovanni Ribc on one set,
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  Speaker 2: and then John Hamm and all of the radio station
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  Speaker 2: and all of the actors that were involved in the
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  Speaker 2: radio station were on a whole nother and so we
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: had different day all of it. There are some incredible
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  Speaker 2: Winnipeg actors that we had the pleasure to work with.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, Lauren Cochrane, do you guys know, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: yeah Cochran who was and we Wish who married Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: She and her husband were also both in and an
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  Speaker 2: American hostage. Wonderful people, super talented, very funny. No, it's
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  Speaker 2: a it's a really intense show. In nineteen seventy seven,
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  Speaker 2: a guy named Tony Kritzis walked into Meridian Mortgage, which
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  Speaker 2: is a family owned mortgage real estate and loan. Like
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  Speaker 2: they did construction, they bought and sold real estate and
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  Speaker 2: they loaned the mortgages. So they gave it that loans
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  Speaker 2: and his family owned by the Halls. And Tony Kritzis
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  Speaker 2: walked in with a sling and a gun and is
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  Speaker 2: hidden in this arm Hiden in his little sling and
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  Speaker 2: then held Dick Hall hostage for sixty three hours. Wow
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  Speaker 2: rated him into the streets of Indianapolis, got into a
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  Speaker 2: cop car, stole a cop car, and then drove to
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  Speaker 2: his apartment where he like sort of you know, hid
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  Speaker 2: inside his apartment with all these you know gas you
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  Speaker 2: know what they thought was nitrous, you know, rigged up
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  Speaker 2: in the apartment. And he called the radio station and
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  Speaker 2: he called this guy named Fred Heckman. So John Hamm
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  Speaker 2: plays Fred Heckman, Giovan Ribisi plays Tony Kurritzis, and I
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  Speaker 2: played Dick Hall. So I'm the guy who Tony takes hostage.
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  Speaker 2: And the whole thing was broadcast live, and they even
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  Speaker 2: during in nineteen seventy seven, in February of nineteen seventy seven,
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  Speaker 2: the little month that I was born, they had the
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  Speaker 2: Oscars and John Wayne was accepting an Oscar speech, and
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  Speaker 2: they broke away from the Oscars to go to this
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  Speaker 2: live report of this hostage takeover. Now in history, the
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  Speaker 2: thing that's interesting about it is the only other hostage
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  Speaker 2: experience that the world experienced up to this point was
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two, which is when that the terrorists
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  Speaker 2: a hire Israeli Olympics team hostage. Eh, yeah, September fifth
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  Speaker 2: in seventy two. And so what we know about that
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  Speaker 2: was that entire team was massacred. So what the world
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  Speaker 2: saw was a hostage situation that ended in tragedy. And
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  Speaker 2: what the world didn't want to see happen again was
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  Speaker 2: Dick called die. So they were willing to do whatever
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  Speaker 2: whatever it took to keep this guy alive. And so
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: being a part of the rate, like him being on
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  Speaker 2: the radio and him broadcasting it live was one of
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  Speaker 2: his requests, and they were like, whatever it takes to
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  Speaker 2: keep this guy alive, Like just keep him talking, keep
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  Speaker 2: him talking. So it's a really riveting television show and
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: the tension and the drama within it. Eileen Meyers is
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: the writer and as Sean Ryan, it's the Sean Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: He's our showrunner. Just an incredibly well written eight episodes
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: of television. So I think you two are gonna it's intense. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you like intense stuff, you're gonna love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, I'm a bit of a baby,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I love that suffer than I am, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely intrigued by this. Do you know, like, do
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  Speaker 1: they plan to do an episodic drop for this or
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  Speaker 1: in a full eight episode release at once?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how MGM plus works. Do you have
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: you guys watched anything on MGM plus? No now?
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like some shows are going to kind
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: of like this episodic drop because it keeps it in
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  Speaker 1: the pop culture conversation longer. You know, you do an
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  Speaker 1: eight episode drop and it's like everyone's hyped about it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's kind of nice.
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  Speaker 2: To draw out the suspense. Here's the thing, the old thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is if you want to have a conversation, a
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  Speaker 2: real life conversation about the state of the affairs, of
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: the state of the Union. We are in a critical
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: sort of flux moment with how we tell stories and
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  Speaker 2: how we consume stories. And for thousands of years, thousands
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  Speaker 2: of years, humanity has told stories through oral history and
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: then the written word, and the written word was consumed
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  Speaker 2: by people who could read it and then share it
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: with either the congregation or the people, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, And then all of a sudden people started
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: reading and you can go to the narrative where it
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: never talked about I, and all of a sudden, the
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: individual was the center of the story. And all of
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: these things were progressing and progressing. And then we had movies,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: and for a hundred years we were able to watch
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  Speaker 2: people behave and we were able to absorb stories, and
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: everything dropped. And then the television showed up after radio,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: which were these longer form stories, and we had this
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: they call them water cooler moments, but you have this
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  Speaker 2: thing that every week people would come together and collectively
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: we would agree on what we liked as a culture
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: and what we disliked as a culture, and we were
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: all kind of on the same page. And even though
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: we might have disagreed politically, or even though we might
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: have had different religions, or even though we might have
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: had different values, there were still these center, these plum
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: lines in our society that kept track. And the individuals
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: who made those things, like Ernest Hemingway or Charlie Chaplin
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: or Doris Day or whomever you want to put into that,
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  Speaker 2: like those individuals that were sort of contributing to the conversation,
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  Speaker 2: we remembered them and we cared for them, and now
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  Speaker 2: we live in a culture where everything is so disposable
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  Speaker 2: and fast, and it's like I look at social media
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  Speaker 2: and I look at the content, and I look at
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  Speaker 2: all the hours that people are putting into posting and
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  Speaker 2: streaming and getting a million views, and then we don't
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  Speaker 2: remember anything. We're not remembering and everything is becoming disposable,
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  Speaker 2: and we're losing those plumb lines that used to keep
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: us together, and we're becoming really, really fractured. So I think,
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  Speaker 2: to your point, Megan, a weekly drop pulls people in. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it keeps the conversation going. It allows word of mouth
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  Speaker 2: to build like mimics. I have one week in theaters
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  Speaker 2: to prove my worth and if we don't make enough money,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: we're gone. And it's like, how do you build enough steam?
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: How do you keep a conversation going unless you unless
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you have a billion dollars to spend that. I'm not
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: exaggerating it really is. You know, it's a pay to
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: play community in publishing and in movies and in television,
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  Speaker 2: So how do you keep I just think what a
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: really interesting breaking point as a culture. I think that
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: as a culture we have to decide how we want
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  Speaker 2: to continue to educate ourselves about our own humanity through
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  Speaker 2: our entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's really no. I mean it's it's when
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  Speaker 1: you think about it, there was an era of television
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  Speaker 1: where like everybody watched Mash. Everybody watched Mash because there
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: were only a few things, and so the things that
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  Speaker 1: were made had to be of a certain quality to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: stick around because there weren't that. Now, it would be
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: very easy for the three of us to have a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: conversation about the shows we're watching and have no overlap
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and because there's just this deluge of content constantly. Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and you feel like I got to get through it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I'm missing something if I don't get to the next thing.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So I am crossing my fingers for an episodic drop.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I like, like, we both love the pit and the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: conversation every week because that's one of those shows that
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: This is taking place once one's.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: In real time. Yeah, in real time. Yeah, but that's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: like appointment television. I'm like, Thursday night at six pm,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that's gonna stream and all of a sudden, I'm on
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: my couch, so just talking about this yesterday, Yeah, like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: we come home whatever we're doing on Thursday night and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: watch it and like years since I've had something like
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: that ever.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, isn't it feels and it feels
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: good to have a felt good to have. I remember
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: when I first met Julianne. She loved Sex in the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: City and Sunday nights on HBO, where like that was
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the thing we knew we were going to do. It
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: was like this weird and I missed that. Like I
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: remember being on you know again, Life Unexpected, and I've had,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you know, the shows that I've had on television. There
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: was a night where I knew I was going to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: be on TV and it was like Tuesday Night and
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: nor Shore, like We're gonna go watch you know this
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: this thing that's gonna happen, and yeah, those those days
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: are gone. I think that's why I enjoy Hallmark and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I like the idea that they have these these stable
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: of actors. Yeah one thirty one, like you know that
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: there's going to be this Chris Poulaha movie and you
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: can there's it's nice to have that date. It's nice
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: or to something. I think I love it still.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You mentioned your wife. Where did you do meet?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We met? So I did a show called Third Degree
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: with a guy named Jensen Acles who had done Days
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: of Our Lives with Julianne, and we shot in New York.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I had no business meeting here, but we did three
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: days of pickups, three days of like shooting inserts and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: looping and all the little tiny detail work for the
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: pilot in Los Angeles. And while I was there, he
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: was like, do you want to go out and meet
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: my buddies? And I was like, yeah, sure, And so
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: we went to Casa Vega, which is this very famous Yeah. Yes,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: We went to this crazy restaurant in the valley and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: it was fifteen dudes and Julianne like right in the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: middle of this, and she was holding the biggest literally,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: this is my son's decoration. He needs to go away
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: because he's still Christmas like giant, like margarite.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Bigger than her head.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember just thinking like, that is the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: we ended up sitting next to each other, and miraculously
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I had enough game to keep the conversation going, but
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: was in no place ready to meet the woman that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I thought that I was gonna marry. Let alone and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: then to make it even to compound things, I'm sitting
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: here talking to her and I'm like, she probably drives
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: like a BMW or some little sporty like she's probably
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: like in La. She's working, she's on days of our lives.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: She's like she's doing her thing. And then we go
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: out and she's gonna drive me to Jensen's. We're all
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: gonna go to this after party after you know, at
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Jensen's house after Cosavega, And this giant black pickup truck
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: pulls up and I'm like, oh no, I'm cooked. Who
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: is this? And we're driving to Jensen's And I said
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to her, and I never said anything like this. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: said to her, like I was like so taken back
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: by her, and I was like, there's a world where
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I could make I would I could make you my wife.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Which is the boldest thing I've ever said in my life. Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I've never like and I never felt that way prior.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And I feel badly because I had some girlfriends that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: were pretty amazing before, but like I just never, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: was like struck like that. Here's the even crazier thing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I was driving. That was a Wednesday, and I was
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: driving to the airport on Friday to go back to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: New York to just have my life and be a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: waiter at the Grange Hall and to see if my
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: pilot was going to get picked up on Fox. Like
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it was just I was in this waiting guy huh.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: And Julianne said do you want to drive? Do you
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: want to ride to the airport? And I was like sure,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I'd love like a couple more minutes with you. I think, yeah,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: that'd be amazing. And we're driving to Lax and she's like,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: what are you going back to New York for? And
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just going back to wait and wait.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: And she's like, do you want to stay? And I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: was like, and I remember this moment of like literally
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the words if you're going to be bold in anything,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: be bold in love. And I was like yeah, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: so I stayed. Now it sounds very sort of scandalous,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: but she was she was waiting for marriage, so she
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was like, she was a totally different kind of woman
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: than I ever really experienced. I didn't know what to experience.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But we had this weekend where we just really got
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to know each other and then started sort of long
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: distance dating because I went back to New York, and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: then she came to New York and then I went
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to LA and then I moved. That was in April
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: eighteenth of two thousand and one. And then I moved
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to LA in July of two thousand and one. Like
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, I think I'm going to move to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: LA and pursue and just see where this goes. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I got a little apartment in Burbank and we dated
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: for another year and a half and then I popped
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: the question, and six months later we were married. So
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: we had like a two year courtship. It was a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: pretty It was fast but slow. It was like, you know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: yeah you can Pooper Get off the Pod. After two
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: years it's like, do you kind of know, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you should make that movie Rooper Get Off the Pod.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's what I meant. No, that's your story story. Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that's a movie right there. Okay, I know you're you're dying.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: We want to talk about mimics. We want to talk
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: about mimics and talk about a departure from you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the Hallmark dude that many of us know, right, Can
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you just tell us the origin story of this movie
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to start?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Want to show a clip. Should we show a clip?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, can you send us one that I can?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here, I'll send you something real quick while we're cool.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Note for the listeners, the video version of this episode,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: which is linked in the show notes, is available on
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: our YouTube channel. Does contain that clip that Chris mentioned,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: so you can head on over.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: To take a look at that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: And this episode is available in its entirety on video.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So the question about to rephrase your question, a little
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: backstory of mimics is this when I was I mean,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the story begins when I was a child. I just
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: told this story to my son, Micah, and I've never
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: said this before in an interview, So this is new,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: this is new information for the world. My mom, Micah
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: this morning woke up and he's like, man, I hate
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: waking up in the morning. He's like, I just don't
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: like waking up in the morning. I was like, I know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I get it. And I said, you know, when I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: was a little kid, like four or five, my mom
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: woke me up and I hated waking up in the morning.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And I said, mom, mommy, what what what professions are
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: there in the world where I can sleep in? And
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: she thought about it. For a minute, and she was like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I guess if you were a Broadway actor, you could
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: sleep in and then you would go to the theater
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: around like three, and you'd do your show at night
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and you'd stay up late and you'd sleep in the morning.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And I was like, that sounds really good. I think
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I want to do that. And so before I even
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: knew I really want, like before I earnestly wanted to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: be an actor, I remember that conversation and thinking, like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: acting would be the opportunity to sleep in. I think
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I want to do that. But filmmaking is not that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it's in acting on film is not that you're up
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: at four am most of the days, and it's you
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: don't get a lot of sleep at all. So that
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: so tricks on me. But the cinematic language is one
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that I used to always play, like I sort of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: do make believe games in my head, and instead of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: being a soldier, i'd be a soldier in a movie.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: After I would like see the cuts and I would
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: kind of tell the story cinematically. And then my folks
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: had a VHS camera and I used to film little
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: movies in camera, you know, and I had to do
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the shot list, and I had to shoot it in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: order because used no way to edit. So I would
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, tell these I mean, I would
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: just I used to make a lot of little movies,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and I wonder where they all went, because I haven't
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: seen any. I'd love to find them. I know that
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Graham's dad had two of them that he kept, but
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen him, and I mean, it would be
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: fun to go back and watch those and see how
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: bad they are. And then when I was a junior
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in high school, I saw Quentin Tarantino's pulp fiction, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: what he accomplished felt like a clarion call to all
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: filmmakers that you don't have to wait in line, you
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: don't have to do the studio dance. You can just
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: go do the thing. You can just make the movie.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And so very early on I knew I wanted to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: make a movie. I wanted to make it in Reno
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: because I'd also seen what John Waters was doing with Baltimore,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and I was thinking, like, well, that's cool. And I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: saw Martin's Corsese and Woody Allen with New York, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I saw and Steve Martin did a love story in
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: La to La Story and I was thinking, well, that
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: would be like I could, Reno would be my city,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: like no one's really done it, like no one's really
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: done Reno justice cinematically yet. And so I knew that,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and they hadn't still until Mimics. And when you see Mimics,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it is a love letter to a city that is
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: it's a very unexpected city. There's a lot of unexpected
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: beauty in Reno, and there's a lot of heartbreak in Reno.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: It's a place of hope and desperation, and I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the film captures that pretty nicely. But I wrote a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: script called The Big Little City in two thousand and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: four on a yellow legal pad. I did the whole
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: thing by hand, and then over the years I sort
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of made it better and would do readings and just
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: tried to get this movie made. But it was so
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: difficult to make this movie. For one, I just wasn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: a popular enough actor. I didn't have enough currency as
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: an actor, so that investors were kind of like, who
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: are you? It doesn't matter even though I had TV shows,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: even though I would i'd played Kennedy and I was
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: number one, nor Shore like I had stuff like I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: had fuel in the tank, but it just wasn't enough
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to and I didn't really know what I was doing,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: so I didn't know how much to ask for. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: didn't know what it would take to actually make a movie.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: But then there was a bunch of convergences, things that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: just started lining up. And one of the things, one
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of the major components, was Hallmark and was a conversation
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I had with Randy Pope and I said to Randy
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: on a phone call in twenty nineteen. I said, Randy,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I want to direct and I want to produce. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: he's like, well, then do those things. He's like, I
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: can't just hire you as a director, because then I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: don't have to hire every actor director and they'll say,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: well Chris did it, why can't I do it? And
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he's like, and if you want to produce, then bring
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: me IP. And IP is intellectual property, right, So a
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: book is IP, this is this is you know, like
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: this is IP for people, and IP is expensive. But
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: what's not expensive is just writing your own book. Well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Anagomez might disagree, there's there's some cought right.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Time has value, sure, yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: But I happened to just and then you know, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I'm a god guy. Anybody who knows me knows I'm
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a pretty prayerful dude, and so I think God opened
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: up a lot of doors right around that conversation. You
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: know what, the conversation with Randy Pope wasn't twenty nineteen,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: it was earlier. I'm sorry, it was probably around twenty sixteen.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Because what I did with that conversation was I started
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: thinking about like writing romance novels to appeal to a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: female audience that could be immediately made into movies on Hallmark.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: And I was like, why don't I go from page
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to screen? That would be interesting. And then the other
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: thing was like, well, if he wants to see me direct,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I got to direct a short film. And I'd always
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: talk this talk of like just do it, just do
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the thing, invite yourself to the table, invite yourself to
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: the table. And in fact, I'd encouraged. There was a
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: filmmaker named John Summerer who years ago ended up making
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: He financed his own movie with a credit card, and
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: the guys who did always sending in Philadelphia, like we
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: used to have conversations, and back when they couldn't get hired,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, we just have to you have to
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: do your own thing. And so I was in three
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: episodes of you know, Always Sending Los Angeles before it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: was Always Sending Philadelphia. Like there was a lot of
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: talk about doing your own thing, but I never did.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And there was a combination of reasons. One was time
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and money, and that combination I did. I would get
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: a job and I would have a year of my
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: life consumed with the television show. Or I just needed
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to make money and had to Like I didn't have
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that luxury of planning, and so all of these things
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: kind of kept me from filling this dream. And then
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I outgrew the lead character in the Biggest Little City
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: because I wrote it for like a twenty one year
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: old and I was no longer twenty one, and all
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, I was like, gosh, I outgrew the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: story I wrote for myself and was sort of looking
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: for new stuff. So I did a work of art
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that was my first directorial thing. It was a short
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: film I did started working on the books with Anagomez.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: When we did moments like this, I was like, you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to produce this, we're'd make this to me.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: We started started really looking at producing and trying to
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: with mystery one oh one coming to a close. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: was trying to produce this Orson Holt mystery thing, and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: so that started conversations with writers and I started producing.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I just started actually producing without making any money. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: just started trying to connect dots and bring people together
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and start, you know, And then the pandemic happened. My
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: buddy Mark Oakley reached out to me. He needed to
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: provide for his family. He was a copywriter. I knowed
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Mark since first grade and he kicked me with this
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: weird idea about a dummy and all this kind of like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't think that's for me, Mark,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: but it's a good idea. And if you want to see, like,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the only way though to see if if your good
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: idea sticks is if you write the script, and if
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you're willing to do that for free, Like if you're
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: willing to write a spec script, then we have something
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: we can work with. But if not, it's it's just
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a great idea, and there's a lot of great ideas.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: And he, to Mark Oakley's credit, went and wrote one
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty page script. And he just went for
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: free and wrote the script and then he handed that
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: script to me, this is twenty twenty and I read
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: it and I was like, Mark, this is actually you
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: did a good job. You actually crushed it. And I said,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but this is how I would make it better. And
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I gave him a litany of notes, and he went
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and he made all the adjustments for free, kicked me
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: back a second draft. I read it again, another litany
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: of notes. He went, made those adjustments. Third draft. Read
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: that one. It was getting tighter, and every bounce back
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: took about three months, three to four months. So I'd
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: give him notes. He'd take about three months, and then
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'd get a new script and I'd read it and
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: it would take me about a week and two weeks
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to give him notes. I'd give him a flood of notes,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and then he would go back and a couple months later.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And then we had a friend. I have a friend
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: who worked for the Blacklist. He's a reader for the Blacklist, which,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: for those of your audience members who may not know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: it's this list in Hollywood where agents and studios. If
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you get on the Blacklist, it's a very It elevates
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: your script in the eyes of the studio and it
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: kind of indicates what should get made into movies, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: so it's an honor to be on the Blacklist as
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a writer. And so this I said to Jake, I said, hey, buddy,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: will you read this and just see if I'm if
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm delusional, if I'm actually sitting on something pretty good.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And he read it and he was like, dude, you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: were actually sitting on something pretty good. I would adjust this, this, this,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and this that would make it super tight. But yeah,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: you got a really tight script. And so Mark again
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: for free, made all the adjustments and then we had
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: this script that was ready to go and that was
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: about twenty twenty three. So it really the story. The
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: reason I'm rambling is that the story of Mimics has
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: been my whole life thirty three years, and it's been
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: five years, and it's been three years, and it's been
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: all of these sort of it's just been this big
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: mix and combination of me driving this desire and this
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: dream to tell a story in Reno, and I really didn't.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: My son even last night, was like, you've never cared
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: what movie it was, and I was like, I never did.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I just knew I wanted to film in Reno, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I knew I just wanted to make a movie. So yeah,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: and then and then all the pieces fell together pretty
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: pretty magically. I could go even into further detail, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'll stop talking.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I gotta tell you. The first time I saw
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the trailer and the dummy his name is Fergus, Is
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: that right? It unlocked some sort of terror in me,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that childhood terror. I don't know what it is. I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: don't know if there was like touches of like Poltergeist
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: or I don't know. So every time I see like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the promos for it, I'm like, that's scared. And I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like that stuff too, so I'm very interested. I'm very intrigued.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm dying to see it, to be honest.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, well, I hope, I hope that's the sentiment.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: It's some man, I didn't There are things I didn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: know to know when it comes to filmmaking and the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: business of filmmaking. And what I'm learning is that everything
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is paid to play. And Disney makes a movie for
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars and then they spend one hundred
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: million dollars on marketing and advertising. It's called p and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: A and the p and A spend is a big
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: deal to people who like the CEOs of AMC, Regal
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and Cinemark, and they want to know that the movie
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that they're putting in their theaters is going to yield
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a return. And the only way it does is if
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: people know that it exists and they know to go
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: see that movie. And so for me, I'm very much
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a grassroots like we are a super truly independent feature
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: film with a mining budget. I mean I made the
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: film for under a million, and our p anda is
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: under him and so we're, you know, we are the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: little engine that could. I just did this. I went
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: on live this morning and it was kind of making
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: a plead in my fans where I was like, even
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: if the movie's not playing in your area, just go
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: online and buy a ticket because it helps, Like it
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: really does. It's like a fifteen dollars donation to my art.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You could write it off as a contribution to the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: arts if you need to, but it's like it really
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: does make a difference. Like ticket sales make all the difference.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And here's the win. If we do sell out theaters
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and if the movie does make money, then that signals
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to the industry that guys like me and women who
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: are of the same mindset that I am. Filmmakers can,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: outside of all the systems, find a way to continue
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to tell stories. And I think there's been this complaint
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that people are tired of the remakes and of the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: hero like people are groaning about the content that's available
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in cinema and they're saying the cinematic experience, you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: is waning. And I'm like, well, here's an opportunity to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: here's an opportunity to then go to you know, go
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to the thing that you want to see, and you
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: know it mimics this, You're right, the dummy, the whole thing.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It's a weird story. I told a really weird story.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: It's a very sort of Lynchian exploration of the supernatural,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: spooky little love story. It is about a guy who
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: gets an invitation to join an elite society and the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: minute he does, things start going, you know, wonderfully well
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: for him. But I do have to say, in the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: day and age that we're living in, when you look
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: at all of the like the files that have been
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: recently exposed and the names in the files, it does harken.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: It makes one wonder, are there sort of elite secret
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: societies that people get invited to, and when it we
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: agree to the rules of the game, things get elevated
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and what is the cost? Because there is a cost
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: for everything, and so my movie explores that and then
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: it gives the antidote there's a little way to break
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the contract, and so there's that in there too. It's
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: an interesting movie and I'm really proud of it. And
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the thing about Mark is that as a writer, he
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: was so generous to allow me to speak into it,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: to literally open up the draft and like, add there's
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: two scenes that are specifically to my life that I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: put in there, and he was like, dude, He's like,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'm happy that we're making this movie. He's like, this
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: is our baby. I don't feel possessive over it. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I think that attitude of collaboration is key to any
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: fundamental endeavor that's artistic. I think you have to like
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: it has to be the best idea whens and you
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: can't be greedy about credit, and you have to be generous,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: you know, in order to make screen work. And I
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: think that's what Mimics. At the heart of it. You're
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: going to see a really beautiful collaboration of a guy
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: named Ken Carpenter who joined me, a guy named Mark
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Oakley who joined me, a bunch of people who said yes,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Tory Hunter, who is our script supervisor, who Ken and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I were working so diligently to get this movie Shades
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of Violet produced, where she was going to be the director,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and you know, we it stalled out momentarily and we
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: were able to pivot and you know, you know, do mimics,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and she joined that, you know, and she said, you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to put what my needs are and
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: my hopes and desires and I'm going to come and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: help you. I mean, so, just a lot of people
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: saying yes made it happen. And I'm excited to see
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I'm nervous and excited and overwhelmed to see what happens
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: in the box office. And it'll either be you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: we'll make twenty thousand bucks and it'll be like and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: it'll kind of be like a wet a wet turd
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and ought we go. Sorry to be so descriptive, but
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that's what you'll like, or or the box office will
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: surprise us, or there'll be something in between, and you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: and it'll be enough fuel to do it again. But
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: that's the goal. The goal is to do this again
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and again and again. Now that I know how to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: do it, I'm ready.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Where are you going to be opening night? Are you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: going to go to the theater and go see it?
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Me? So, I just bought two tickets in Texas. I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: supporting a Texas theater. So I bought my first two tickets.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I won't be there, but my seats will be sitting there,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: will be there in spirit. I will be in Reno,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Nevada for the world premiere.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And I just have to say, ladies, I have I
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: know that there are other actors on Hallmark who have
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: a rabid fan base.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Oh no, your fans ride hard.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: They ride hard, And I mean, I am so grateful
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to these people. I have fans coming from all over
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the world who are going to fly Toreno to be
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: at the world premiere. And I am so overwhelmed by it,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even know how. I don't have words
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: to express my gratitude. But it's one of those things
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: where we had seventy we had sixty VIP tickets for sale,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and I think that my fan base, the majority of
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: those tickets were bought and then we opened up another eleven,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: so we had seventy one total, and they were gone
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: within the first week of the sales. And it was
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: people who were like, Yeah, we want the full experience,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: we want to come and hang out with you, we
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: want to see the movie. And then they're going to
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of those women are going to stay in
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Reno and do a screening Friday night and Reno on
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the thirteenth, and so I think I'm going to join
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that screening, so I'll be there in Reno. So the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: first time I'll see in the theater like an official
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: movie theater is at the Summit in Reno on the thirteenth.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: That's so fun and fun for your fans too. For
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you to be there, that's so great.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: As want to drive you guys want to drive right Honestly,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, can we go to Arena?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I don't mean he but it comes out on the thirteenth.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Vegas on the fourteenth. Can
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I just drive Rena?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm not even joking right now. You should. I'm
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of series. You Sha, I should come
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to the you should come to the premiere and I'll
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: get you tickets you can have you can have tickets
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: on me.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Is the premiere on the thirteenth, Is that when you're
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: doing it?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Here's the deal. The premiere's on the eleventh, So to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Reno on the eleventh, and he's our calendar. Do like
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: a special live from the premiere. Yes, and you'll have
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: all of us, You'll have the whole cast. I'll make
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: sure that we all come and say, Hi.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I think this is a serious thing. We were going
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to have to discuss it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's just like even if it's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: just for the premiere, like yeah, we're and be there.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: We're doing it at the Reno. It's called the Pioneer Center,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and it's like Reno's. I call it the Carnegie Hall
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: of Reno, and it is. It's like the crown jewel
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: of performing arts in Nevada. And when I was a kid,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, one day I'm going to be on
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that stage. So that's my like opry moment, like it
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: was the Pioneer Center. It's right across the street from
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: the courthouse where my dad worked for fifty two years.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty special moment, like my dad who and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: God bless him, but the doctors gave him, you know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: five years to live like ten years ago. Oh well,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, so's he's defying the odds. He's got congestive
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: heart failure and so his heart is you know, not
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: ticking like it used to be. And I just wanted
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: to capture my dad, my father on digital celluloid. Then
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: he has the last line in the movie. Oh so
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: he has a character comes home and he's got this
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: really cool little beam. He crushes it like usually like, oh,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: that guy's not an actor, and he like he did
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: a whole thing. And then just to see I don't know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: like if you've ever seen Austin Basis's work, to see
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: what he did in this movie is truly remarkable. I'm
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: so proud of him. And he brought something. There's a
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: guy named Kevin Lawson who invented this wild character that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: it's you know, all these things are they're in for
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: a minute. And then Mariah Smallbone plays the leading lady,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: and if you love Hallmark movies, there's this incredible romance
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: at the heart of this kind of spooky story and
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: she crushes it. And Steven Tobolowski, I mean, I'm so
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: proud of my cat I'm so proud of like watching
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: the actors. I don't know the whole thing. I could
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: go on and on, and I sound like an idiot
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: because I'm just It's like, it's like bragging about your
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: kid and nobody wants to hear how great your kid is.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: But this is a kid you can take part in.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: This is a kid wat kid. Yeah, this is a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: kid you can own. You know, we do have a
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: ur distribution company has a deal. We're making DVDs, so
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it'll eventually be available at like Walmart, like we've got
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I got the DVD art looks incredible. I positioned Fergus's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: face on the DVD so the whole is like over
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: one of his eyes. It's fine, like it there was,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Ken and I made a decision not to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: try to sell the film to a bigger distributor because
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: we knew that we would lose control of it. Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: we just say that a twenty four or Neon or
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: one of those companies wanted to buy it. They would
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: ask us how much it costs. We would tell them
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: they might might double that, but they probably would have said,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll give you a little bit more than
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: we'll cover the spread and then you'll earn you know,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: downstream revenue. But then they could have just boxed it
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and never put it into theaters and never who knows
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: what could happened to it? Like my answer off of
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: it at that point, and the way that we treuld
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: like that we did this. I guess that if you
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: were going to compare it to publishing, this would be
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: like self publishing a book, and we self produced a movie,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: like we just went outside of the system and said,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: all right, let's see what we can get. And the
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: fact that we're in you know, one hundred and we're
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I think we just we keep upp in theaters daily,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: so I think we're like one hundred and thirty theaters.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: We're in Peoria. Do you guys want to hear? Yes? Always,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I wanted to read you of the age old question.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? M hm? So? But will
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: it play in Peoria? Yes? Confirmed? Will o'nole's fourteen? Here's
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the deal, it's true. The meaning has come to me.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: And will it play in the Middle Will it play
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: in Middle America? So I think historically it's like yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: but will it play in Peoria? It was is like
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a is it. Is it brought enough release to have,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you know, to play in the middle of America. Yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: he says, but the true origin is based on por
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: being the liquor capital of America until the late nineteen hundreds.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Peoria produced so much of the nation's liquor it actually
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: provided the majority of the US federal tax for many years.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Because of all the booze and expendable income, Peoria actually
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: became a huge party town with tons of vaudeville theaters.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Instead of being rubes, it was actually the fact that
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Purrea audiences were so experienced with entertainment that they gained
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the notoriety. It was a bit like going on the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Apollo stage today. Entertainment was expected to be top class
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to play in Peoria simply because there were so many
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: great options that no one would suffer a low quality show.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: If Peoria loved you, it meant you had impressed the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: best audiences in the country. So here here to Peoria.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. Show up, Illinois. I have a question
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that you may not know the answer to yet, but
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: talking about the theater landscape these days, you know you
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: alluded to it. Everything is a remake or a sequel
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: or a new Marvel right, Like it's based on existing
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: ip a lot of times because it seems like studios
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: are convinced people won't go see other stuff, so like
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: if they don't know what it is, they're not going
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to go see it. Right to me, when I look
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: at what's in the theater, there's not like it's nothing.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Like you know, twenty years ago, I used to go
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: to the movies every weekend. Well now there's not enough
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: stuff to go to the movies every weekend. And so
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: do you is your sense that maybe that will play
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: in your favor? Like we have this brand new thing
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that's people have been asking for, Like I don't want
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: another Marvel movie, although everyone's going to go see another
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: markt Like, do you think that's going to play in
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: your favor?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that's my hope, that's my yes, I bet,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I mean that's my like I put money, my money
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: where my mouth is, Like my hope is that people
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: will say, let's give it a shot. But what I'm
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: learning is the trick is that they have to know
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: that it's there.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: That it exists.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like if I'm if I'm not a
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Hallmark fan and I don't know who Chris Palaha is.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And I go to the what's playing over the weekend.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna see Weathering Heights Margo Robbins. I'm gonna be like, Okay,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I know that, IP, I know Weathering Heights. Do I
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: want to see that it's rated R so that that
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that'll either think I'm gonna see you know, knotty bits
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: or it might be two escape for me. So there's
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Crime one on one, which is Chris Hemsworth, which is Thor.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna go, well, Thor's in a new movie.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: It's Crime one O one and you know, and then
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you're going to see a guy sitting on a dummy's lap.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And I obscured half my face on the poster because
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, cause I to me, there's I have a
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: funny joke about never being on a poster in all
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: my movies, and so I kind of liked it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Is that the origin of the Missing the Boat movie poster,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: no passport your face from your face?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no no. The Hallmark ones are always different.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: For Hallmark always had my full face, but like where
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Hope grows as a silhouette, it wasn't on the run
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the race. Poster Atlas Shrugged was a silhouette like for
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: a minute, like all my theatrical like all these moments
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: where I was like, I'm gonna have my face on
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: a poster. And then even with the shift, they did
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: this weird thing where you know it was it was
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: it was my face is definitely on the poster on
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that one. But no, I just thought it was kind
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: of a funny little nod to to, yeah, that's funny
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: my ego and the expectation of and I was like,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: let's just bury it. Put the dummies hand there. But yeah,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I mean I think, I think. And so that's where
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: word of mouth comes from. That's where the currency of
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: like literally telling your friends and neighbors to go see
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: this thing is going to be life for this film.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: It really is the difference between life or death. And
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: it's like if everybody, if there's enough buzz generated so
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: that we do well that first weekend, and it really
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: is a matter of doing great Thursday night, Friday night,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Saturday night, Sunday night, that if we hold then like
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: even my distributors were like, we will will put more
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: money in the p and will do a broader push.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So that the following week, and then AMC will be like, Okay,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: this made movie, this made money, so let's push this
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: into more more screens. Cinemak past on mimics entirely. So
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Regal said yes, AMC said yes, and Cinemak, we're playing
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: in one cinema theater across the entire country and that's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: the only that's the one in Reno. And they were like,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it's just you guys are too It's too small, it's
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: too independent, like not enough P and A behind it,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: and it's too big of a risk. So you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and then I'm just talking how the sausage is made.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people there's a school
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: of thought where you don't want to talk about this
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: kind of thing because it makes your movie seem sort
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: of small or kind of you know, Like I think.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: People love it. I think people a love I love
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: knowing how things get made.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like you and I'm like, I would
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: rather know that if if if I spend money on
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: this particular movie, it's going to have a direct impact
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: on the filmmakers.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna matter.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that versus lining Disney's pocket, versus lining
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers in Netflix Pocket.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hemsworth is doing all right.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Hemsworth is fine. You've got lahaw is a little little
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: homegrown movie.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: He's got kids in college.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Man, his dad you know in the last scene because
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: he couldn't afford another And I'm just kidding, but it's
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: but it's, uh, it really is. We'll see what happens.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm I'm I'm not nervous. I'm not
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: there's no anxiety. I couldn't be happier. I talked to
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Ken Carpenters and he's like, dude, you sound like you're
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: on top of the world. And I said, Ken, I
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: really am. Right now, I said, this is a like
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: it's I dreamed a dream and I did this thing
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: and I made it, and I'll walk down the street
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and I'll feel overwhelmed with this sense of like you
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: did it. Dude. I could call it a day and
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: be very content. I'm not going to We're glad to
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: hear that.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: We're glad to hear that.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I could literally pack it up and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: be like I did what I set out to do.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: And it's a very cool feeling.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: That's exciting, that's so exciting.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we know how much affection you have for Reno
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: growing up there. But Whendy, you found a fun little
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: tidbit last night. I need you to confirm on Wikipedia
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: it says that you left Reno as a high schooler
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and went to boarding school in California. Is that accurate?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: It's accurate really.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Because I was like, Oh, I wanted you to tell
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: us what Chris was like as a teenager in Reno,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Like what were you into? What were you passionate about?
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But wasn't in Reno.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You weren't there, And I was like that that version
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: of you is probably much different than boarding school version
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of you. I'm guessing, right, Yeah, Reno Chris, Pebble Beach Chris. Right,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: those seemed like two different people.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Those are two totally different kids.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Wow, did you have to change the person you were?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: What was that boarding school experience?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Like? You know, Reno. Here's what I'm going to say,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Reno Chris wouldn't be sitting here talking to you guys. Yeah,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: And that's the sad truth of the Reno that I
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: grew up in. Now, the Reno that exists today is
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: very much a Reno that you can you could conquer
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the world from him, and it's it's it's a totally
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: different Reno than than when I grew up in Reno.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Was we didn't really talk things through. We would just
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: be like, all right, let's go outside and let's like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: but you like, let's fight. And so it was like
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it was a it was a it was a rough
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and real town. And the writing on the wall for
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: me was if you stayed in Reno, you were going
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: to stay in Reno, like you were going to do
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: the thing where you just do what your dad did,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: or or work in one of the casinos or whatever
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: that was. There was an iteration of just sort of
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: of staying put. And I did. I just did. I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: had these bigger dreams And a lot of credit in
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: my life goes to this kid I grew up with
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: named Graham Smith. His name is Graham Lipsmith now, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Graham and I were best friends. And his mother was
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: raised in New England, I think Rhode Island, and her
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: whole mentality was very English in that like if she
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: could send her kids away to school at the age
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: of nine, she would have, right, but like high school
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: was definitely you send your kids away to boarding school.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: So there was Graham's older brother, a guy named Stu
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Smith who went to Stevenson and he was kind of
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: a bad kid at the time, like he was like
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: up to some like he was bored because he was
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: hyper intelligent, and so his getting sent to boarding school
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: was like what you would think, like you were up
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: to no good and so you had to go. And
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: but Graham and I had a different plan. And in
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: fifth grade he was like, I'm going to go and
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: he went to Exeter Academy and I was gonna go.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I looked at Choate, and I looked at Grotton, and
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I looked at all these like these new England boarding
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: schools because Dead Poets Society, Do you remember that?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I saw that movie and I was like, man, that
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: that's the life. And I told my parents in fifth
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: grade I was going to go way to boarding school,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and they kind of just were like, okay, whatever. And
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: then I convinced my mom. First my mom that I
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: was going to be an orthopedic surgeon. Like I knew
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to be when I grew up, and
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: it was going to be an orthopedic surgeon. And I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: was going to go to boarding school and then get
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: into Stanford Medical School and then come back and open
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: up an orthopedic clinic arena. And I had a whole
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: plan and she was like okay, yeah, and she's like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the only boarding schools you can go to though, are
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: in California, Like you can't go anywhere else, Like you
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: can't go back East, it's too far away. And I
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: was like deal. So there were three schools in California, Kate,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Thatcher and Stevenson. I applied to all three. And I
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: remember my dad was walking around the Stevenson campus and
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: it was the one where he was like, hmm, this
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: is this is nice, and he just I could see
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: him kind of all of a sudden, he just did
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: the thing where he was like, you know, I've worked
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: really hard. His father was a steel worker at Bethlehem Steel.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: So my grandfather made steel for like the Golden Gate
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Bridge and for New York Skyline, and he poured steel
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania his whole life. He was an immigrant and
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: he came to this country with sixteen siblings. Met an
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Irish girl and she had my grandmother, Justine Lancy. She
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: had fifteen siblings like immigrants, like we were you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: we were the white We were the white immigrants that
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: flooded the New England and we're not either in the
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Slovak and the Irish were not appreciated and you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: and so they kind of lived in this one specific area.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: And my dad's whole goal was to sort of leave
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: that station behind and make a better life for himself,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: to honor his parents. I think ultimately he wanted to,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: you know, improve his lot in life so that he
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: could honor the work that his father did and then
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: make a better life for his kids. And I saw
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: that and I was like, well, I want to do
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: that too, Like I think you've worked really hard and
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I want to So that when I called freshman year
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: after having done a play and was like, I know
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: what I want to do, and they were like, what,
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be an actor, Ma, I'm going to
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: be an actor. Dad, there was like silence something, but they're.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Like, what did we do? What do you mean, mister
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: orthopedic search In No.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: It was very much like my dad is brilliant, Like
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: like he read, he read, you know, he would constantly
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: read and constantly learning. I would argue that he's a polymath,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: like he just knew a lot about a lot. And
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: so that's something that I've tried to be in my life,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: where I just I was so so high school. I
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: was a full on nerd. I mean I was, we were,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I was after good grades, and then when I got
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: involved in theater, I was like a theater NERD's.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Big change from Reno Chris at that point.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Reno Chris was just Reno Chris was. I mean,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I just think that I don't know what I would
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: have done in Reno. I really dull. My brothers went
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: to Reno. I would have gone to Reno High.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I'd just gotten beaten up for being a theater kid.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think I would have been a theater kid. Yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: just the opportunities would have the only reason I'm in theater.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Here's this story, and I'll tell you guys really quick.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I've said this before. The only reason I did theater
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: was because there was a guy named Hamish Tyler, and
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Hamish used to be the football coach and the baseball coach,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: and they gave him a theater program and he started
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: a radio so KSPB Radio, which still exists to this day,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: broadcasts all through Selena's Valley. It's this incredible student run
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: radio station and a theater program where he did four
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: fully produced plays a year and then a series of
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: short one acts written by seniors that we would all like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: so we would do like I mean, we were constantly working,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: and he opened it up to the Monterey, Pebble Beach,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Pacific Grove, and Carmel communities. The newspapers would come and
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: review us. It was a five hundred person seed audience,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: so it's like being in a theater company. And I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: had a roommate Nicked Jake Hymes, this really sweet Jewish kid,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and there was another kid who would come into our
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: room and antagonize Jake, like anti semitic, literally throw water
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: on him while he was sleeping at night. He was
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: not a good kid. And one day he came into
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: our room and I had enough, and Reno came out.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: I could have whooped this ass. I mean physically, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: was bigger than he was, and I was used to fighting.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I had three older brothers. I remember jumping on this
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: one kid when in line in sixth grade, my friend
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Graham was getting bullied, and I mean I leaped on
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: this kid and took him to the ground. Hand on
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the throat. It was always my move, like right I'd
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: hit the throat. It was like I mean, it was
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: like there was a little bit of unhinged thing. And
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: instead of beating this kid up, because I knew I
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: would get expelled, I picked up a broomstick and I
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: smashed out the windows of my dorm windows and they
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: were like the little panes, so it was like twelve
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: panes per frame. And I knocked out the glass and
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: all these windows, and then I said, get out of
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the room, get out of here, and like I scared
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the kid off, and I look out the window and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: all these seniors who were sitting on the lawn outside
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the dorm were just like staring at me. And I
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, like I've just gotten myself expelled
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: for just destroying school property. So I start crying. I
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: go to the nurse. She sees my face. She says,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: take the rest of the day off. They used to
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: call me Jesus Free because I had all these posters
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: on my wall and like a little crucifix the prayer
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: taped on my wall and I was like praying. I
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: was like, Lord, you told me to turn the other
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: cheek and I'm trying to turn the other cheek and
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, and I don't know.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I just don't what to do. And I was overwhelmed
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: with the sense of like, just go and tell the
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: head of the school, the dean, like the den of students,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: like what you did. So this guy named mister Henderson
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: and I walked into his office and this is like
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: December of my freshman year. I'm fourteen years old. I'm
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: a little kid, and I'm like, I'm just I'm not
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: doing okay. And he said what's wrong? And I said,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just not doing well here, and I'm really sad
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm frustrated. And I didn't want to tell on
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: this kid because then it was going to open up
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: like a hole, like he's hazing and the whole thing,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: just like I was like, it's not so for whatever reason,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't say this kid's picking on my roommate. I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: tried to protect him. I broke windows in order to
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: instead of beating him up up up a buy. I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: just said I'm not doing well and he said, well,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: what's your GPA? And he went up and looked it
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: up real quick, and it was like a two something,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, first goal, you got to set
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: some goals, like let's say him for a three four. Okay,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: get all these grades up, and then what are you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: doing after school? And I said nothing, And he looked
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: up up the schedule and he said, okay, there's an
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: audition for a play and there's tryouts for a basketball team.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, why don't you go go try out for
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: both and see what happens. And I was like okay.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: And so I tried out for the freshman basketball team.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: And mind you, I'm like six' one at the, Time
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: i'm still. Tall AND i got cut after the second
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: round of. Tryouts but, literally on the same day of
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: the first basketball, TRYOUT i tried out for the and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: it was this. Student it was going to be a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: student directed to play by this guy Named Chris, arajo
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: AND i got the play AND i didn't get the basketball.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Team so all of a, SUDDEN i was a part
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: of this thing that ended up not. Happening the play
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: didn't end up, happening which is the weirdest. THING i got.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Cast we did a couple of rehearsals and THEN i
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: don't know what happened To. Chris he got. Distracted he
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: didn't give this the college you wanted. TO i don't
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: know what, happened but it led to another audition For
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Street Crame, desire WHICH i did, get which was the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: school was producing that, one and it was the first
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: PLAY i was ever a part. Of and it changed my.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Life just the, community the, feeling AND i remember being
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: on stage and doing my, thing and, afterwards this kid
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: that was like kind of hazing, me like an older,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: kid his name Was. Brett he walked up and he
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: was like it was pretty, good, man be pretty. Good
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and he left me alone after, that and girls all
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: of a, sudden LIKE i WASN'T a wasn't like the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: guy that girls you, know were spooning. Over and all
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: of a, sudden girls like came up after the play
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: and they were like, hey and like it just changed my,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: life like all of a, sudden and it became that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: thing where the community that felt right the play LIKE
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: i was good at. It so like HAD i been
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: a football player AND i was the quarterback and good at,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: football this was that version and it made me a better,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Student like it made me a better all of a,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: SUDDEN i JUST i learned like my work, ethic LIKE
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: i learned how to. Work, yeah it was a cool.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Experience SO i Owe stevenson In hamish title in, particular
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: like my my whole, life my whole.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Career i'm so impressed that you remember all these names
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: of all these, people so, Thoughtful LIKE i can't remember
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: SOMEBODY i met. Yesterday don't know WHAT i, Mean AND
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: i don't know if that's just Because i'm an old,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: lady but LIKE i you pulled the teams probably older
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: than you, are by the, WAY i don't think, so
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: not according to The. Internet so, anyway it's it's so
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: impressive THAT i can't believe me remember all these times
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and give them such credit, too like.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: They really did speak into my. LIFE i, mean there
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: are a few MOMENTS i can point back to and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: when somebody said something or or where there was just
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: a moment of you, know where you're giving a chance
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: to run with the, ball and it's it's a rare
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: thing when it. Happens and so and that's WHAT i,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: mean my whole, Life Like i've tried to give back
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: time and time again as often AS i, can because you,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: KNOW i just think it's it's imperative you have. To.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah something you said earlier has really stuck with.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Me you, said invite yourself to the. Table was that?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: It H, yeah, Yeah meg AND i are going through
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: some like business ye stuff here that we would do
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the exact same. Thing when you know, That i'm writing
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that down as soon as this is, over And i'm
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: putting that up on my leg a vision. Board, yeah
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: invite yourself to the. TABLE i love. That, yeah that's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six for us over. Here so that was really.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Profound you have to, GOSH i feel like there's a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: mentality in and for some, reason particularly in the, arts
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: where young people feel like they have to be invited
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: to the table by. Somebody Else where there's a gatekeeper
• 1:04:17
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  Speaker 2: have a. Seat and we see it and we, go, well,
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  Speaker 2: wow it's happening for so and, so or did it
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  Speaker 2: for you? Know this is What i'm. Seeing but the
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  Speaker 2: truth of the matter is when you really start to
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  Speaker 2: like look under the hood of most people's, careers they
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  Speaker 2: took the bull by the horn and they just Said
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  Speaker 2: i'm doing this thing AND i don't give a shit
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  Speaker 2: who says no or who says. Yes i'm doing it
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  Speaker 2: and it might cost. Me it MIGHT i might make
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  Speaker 2: no money at. FIRST i, Might But i'm doing this
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  Speaker 2: thing because AND i also think you have to have
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  Speaker 2: a story to. TELL i don't think that fame if
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  Speaker 2: your goal is like for, artists if your goal is
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  Speaker 2: to be rich and, famous you're going to run out
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  Speaker 2: on empty pretty quick because it's just fame is, fleeting
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  Speaker 2: and so is your. Money it spends as quick as
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  Speaker 2: you make. It and, literally like you have to just
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  Speaker 2: want to tell, stories and you have to want to
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  Speaker 2: communicate with the other human, beings and it's an act of.
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  Speaker 2: Service it's like being a, waiter and there are really
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  Speaker 2: great waiters who make you feel seen and make you
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  Speaker 2: feel really taken care of and serve good hot. Food
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  Speaker 2: and same thing with, Entertainers like they're entertainers who will
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  Speaker 2: make you feel seen by their stories and will make
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  Speaker 2: you feel included in a community and will be, like,
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  Speaker 2: Oh i'm a part of this is my, Generation like
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  Speaker 2: this is My here's WHAT i want to do when
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  Speaker 2: people when you AND i when we are old as the.
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  Speaker 2: HILLS i want to be the kind of guy where
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  Speaker 2: they look where my generation looks back and says And
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  Speaker 2: i've heard stories About Jimmy. Stewart he has such a
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  Speaker 2: profound impact on me WHERE i just heard people talk
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  Speaker 2: about who he was and loved disputes and, like, YEAH
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  Speaker 2: i just LIKE i would see him at church and
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  Speaker 2: his marriage and AND i was, LIKE i just want
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  Speaker 2: to be like your friendly neighborhood actor kind of where
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: it's like that thing where my movies are important enough
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  Speaker 2: to people THAT i get to make a, living but
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  Speaker 2: Then i'm also in the world And i'm talking to
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  Speaker 2: like where there's just that's the thing That i'm that
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  Speaker 2: turns me. ON i think that's. Cool and the fact
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  Speaker 2: that we're all in this together and that there's a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: long game is a lot more interesting than anything that
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  Speaker 2: can happen very.
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  Speaker 1: Quickly, look this has been, incredible as it always. Is
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  Speaker 1: we could talk to you. Forever as you, know our
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  Speaker 1: calendars are quite, clear but we will of course include
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  Speaker 1: links to everything, everywhere, mimics, tickets all the theaters where
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: you can find, it information about everything you're. Doing our
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: review Of missing The boat just came. OUT i would
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  Speaker 1: highly recommend That hallmark fans of course check that. Out
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  Speaker 1: you can Follow. Chris instagram is at the best place
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  Speaker 1: to keep up with.
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  Speaker 2: You you, see it's really the only PLACE i, yeah it's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: really there's A twitter one THAT i rarely go. To,
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  Speaker 2: FACEBOOK i rarely go. To, yeah just CAN i really
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  Speaker 2: quickly do a course a quick shout, out, PLEASE i
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: do not reach. Out there is a there are a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: group of fans that D m, Me so there's a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: there's a few people that that have established contact with
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: me On. Instagram but And i'm, Moving i'm shifting towards complete.
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  Speaker 2: Transparency so the only Way i'm gonna start communicating On
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: instagram is through through the comment, section so that it's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: everything is you, know. Public, yeah because there are people
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: who are getting scammed and it's getting, yes like an.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Intensity it revved up a bit of go And i'm
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: sure it's still going on where people think that communicating
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  Speaker 2: with me and they're. Not and don't ever give information
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  Speaker 2: or money or anything to anybody. Online i'm not going
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: to ask for your, money Like i'm gonna ask you
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to go buy a. Ticket there's an, exchange go buy
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: A t shirt BECAUSE i want, support and there's a
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: financial there's a there's transactional things, happening but it's always
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: through a thing that's not directly to me, ever, ever, ever,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Ever and none of your actors On, hallmark there's just
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: or any. ACTORS i, mean there's just a real there's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: a real creep happening right. Now AND i think especially
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: WITH ai and with they can almost in the bot
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: that will simulate talking, patterns and so it's really. Scary
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: so just buyer, beware you.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, no that's an important. MESSAGE i, mean
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: it's happening on such a large. Scale the number Of
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  Speaker 1: Tyler hines that try to join Our facebook group on the, daily,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: right and that's that's such a little. Thing but, yeah
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: it's if you think you're talking in THE dms to
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: A hallmark, actor you probably are, not especially if they're
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: asking you for. Something, well thank you so much for your,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: time for your, insight for your. Words we're so excited
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: For Mimics American. Hostage we're gonna shout it from the. Rooftops,
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  Speaker 1: chris thank.
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  Speaker 2: YOU i, mean it, helps it really. Does and if
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: you go to mimics dot, com it's the website mimicsmovie dot.
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  Speaker 2: COM i believe it is the website for the, film
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: and it lists every, city every. Theater it's an easy to,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: use and then of Course fandango and zip zip codes
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: ARE i guess give you like a thirty mile, radius
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  Speaker 2: so it's easy to just have to do the work
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: a little. Bit but, Yeah i'm super grateful and thank
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: you ladies for ALWAYS i enjoy talking to. You guys.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Same i'll never forget running into you on that, cruise and.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: It was an absolute. Highlight it was a. Highlight But
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: i'm just, like, oh it just, hurts and BECAUSE i
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: was like fangirling so, hard and, Yeah chris hates having.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Fans i'm sure that's a real rough moment for.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Him always so, awkward someone's excited to see me. AGAIN
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: i was, like what DID i call? YOU i called
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you like a nice.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah really it was a memorable moment for.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: ME i just remember. That but, yeah, No, wendy that's
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: that's uh probably probably part of WHAT i enjoyed the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: moment so. Much SO i.
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  Speaker 1: APPRECID i just shared because we took a picture that.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: DAY i just shared it in our newsletter AND i was,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: like we get a Whole palaha retrospective in our newsletter
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: this week because of missing the. Vote so, yeah, well,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: look thank you so, Much thank you to the listeners
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: for listening to this. Episode please check out Everything's chris
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  Speaker 1: is working on in our show notes and over On,
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  Speaker 1: instagram and we'll be back next time with More hallmark. Reviews,
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