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Episode 284: Harmony (SG-A 4.14) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and eighty four talking
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  Speaker 1: Stargate at Lantis. Mitch and thankfully Maddie here as well.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you've been fine? And a lift up? Don't you bullshit?
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  Speaker 1: This on? Out of the mikes around, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about harmony. It is episode fourteen of season four of
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  Speaker 1: Stargate Atlantis, the episode that Maddie said last episode may
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  Speaker 1: not be here next week. I think it was it
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  Speaker 1: was retaliation for was it something weir related that I did?
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  Speaker 1: What was it was? I mean, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: been something out the last couple of weeks. I've been
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  Speaker 1: I've just been you know, there's grating on some areas.
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  Speaker 1: Then you were you know what, next week, maybe you
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  Speaker 1: do it harmony by yourself. It will be the first
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  Speaker 1: episode you've ever missed the pod and maybe you weren't
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  Speaker 1: going to be here, but thank you, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: showing up because I we'll get into it, because I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say, I understand why, but we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into it harmony straight into the old synopsis and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll try and get through this. We don't know how
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  Speaker 1: long it's going to go for yet, you guys listening,
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  Speaker 1: you can see the time curve. You can see how
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  Speaker 1: long we lasted, but we'll push on. While visiting an
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  Speaker 1: off world trading partner, Shepherd and McKay meet Harmony, the
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  Speaker 1: successor to the throne, a demanding child who has as
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  Speaker 1: many enemies as she does character flaws. I hadn't read
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  Speaker 1: that yet. That's that's brilliant written by the one and
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  Speaker 1: only MG, Martin Guiro and direction can.
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  Speaker 2: I just realized we have the same initials. Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: really just realized that. God damn.
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  Speaker 1: From one MG to another and director William wearing.
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  Speaker 3: Love match.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Two moments? I love in that and at the end, okay,
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  Speaker 1: just the great wrap up. Thank you, Rachel. I. When
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this being a part of the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: my first thought was to jump in and say, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I wasn't the only one. But not knowing
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  Speaker 1: where this episode was going to go. The first three
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  Speaker 1: frames that they showed the second older sister to the
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  Speaker 1: young queen, I was like, bad.
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  Speaker 2: Guy, bad guy, She's going to be the bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what she's going to do. She's bad,
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  Speaker 1: she's evil. Keep an eye on her. I knew it
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  Speaker 1: was her, and I didn't even know what it was
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  Speaker 1: that she was going to do. I know it what
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  Speaker 1: this episode was about. But yeah, and then old Lover.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there were some areas in this Okay, look,
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  Speaker 1: what do I think we can get into the real stuff?
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  Speaker 1: What do I think I can understand why you didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to be here for this episode. Let's just put
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  Speaker 1: it that way. I can understand why Maddie did not
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  Speaker 1: want to be here. And I don't know what else
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  Speaker 1: to say other than you know, it covered some areas
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  Speaker 1: where they you didn't know what they were talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and that was part of the joke. For one. I
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  Speaker 1: want to I just okay, this feels me. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm just talking at this point, Matt, He's just
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  Speaker 1: looking at me.
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  Speaker 3: What's gone?
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing? Can you say? Can you speak?
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  Speaker 1: Can you say something? Please?
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek Star Trek? Is that
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  Speaker 2: is that three? Can I go?
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  Speaker 4: I know?
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  Speaker 1: But that's what that is? No, that only counts as one,
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  Speaker 1: but please use them fairly. Spare less than four minutes
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  Speaker 1: in Oh Boy, Oh Boy. Here, I was like, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I should go in there and I'll tell Maddie
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to intro the show and you're not even
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  Speaker 1: going to talk, and I'll get through like the synopsis,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll start talking about what I think, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll go, oh, Maddie's here. He's been hell the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's lame because it's manufactured. But now that i'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm we're here, and you've just done that to me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I really don't want to be here
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  Speaker 1: talking about this by myself.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like starture references are a threat now, not
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  Speaker 2: just the fun that they.
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  Speaker 1: Are at the moment, they really are. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: I've said before, I listened to Bill, but now it'll
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  Speaker 1: be a thousand of the podcasts like it. But I
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  Speaker 1: listened to comedian Bill Burr. His podcast. He has an
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  Speaker 1: hour long podcast and then a half an hour long podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Twice a week, he has these two releases, one hour,
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  Speaker 1: one half hour, and it's just him for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: just him in his basement, in an office, in a
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  Speaker 1: hotel room, wherever he is, and he just talks, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've sent me some clips of one
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  Speaker 2: of those.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he'll just go off and rants like political,
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  Speaker 1: he'll just tell a funny story he'll just talk about
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  Speaker 1: shit in the world. What again, like something food that
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  Speaker 1: he made, like motor bikes, his flying lessons, like whatever
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  Speaker 1: the hell he wants to talk about. He just talks.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, he'll make it very clear. When he's
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  Speaker 1: making an edit, he'll go, oh, it's such an old
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  Speaker 1: man thing. And I'm sure he would say the exact
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  Speaker 1: same thing, but he is in his like mid to
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  Speaker 1: late fifties, and he'd be like, oh, hang on, i
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  Speaker 1: gotta go for a second, and I'll come back with
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  Speaker 1: the I'll come back with the power of editing. I've
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  Speaker 1: just got to go and do this thing. Okay, we're back,
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  Speaker 1: and through the magic of editing, you here I am.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, just just stop talking and then
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  Speaker 1: start again. No one would know, there's no there's no
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  Speaker 1: like ad break that he slips in. There's no benefit
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  Speaker 1: to pointing that out.
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  Speaker 2: If so he wasn't like successful like comedian an actor.
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  Speaker 2: It does sound very much like a crazy white man
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  Speaker 2: in a bunker.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like you, and I think he'd be happy, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: saying that as well, And but it just it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear that he just talks for an hour
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  Speaker 1: and it's just him outside of those edits which he
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  Speaker 1: makes obvious. And I'm thinking, and I've spoken to a
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  Speaker 1: guy that sits in this very studio with me, a
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  Speaker 1: broadcaster of twenty five years, and he's like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how he does it. I don't know that I
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  Speaker 1: could just sit there by myself and talk for an hour.
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  Speaker 1: And I've often thought about that. I've tried it on
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  Speaker 1: the way home, and Okay, I'm going to press record
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  Speaker 1: on my phone and just talk and just see what happens,
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  Speaker 1: see whether I can do it. Now, I have no
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  Speaker 1: problem talking a long time, Mattie. You and I will
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  Speaker 1: send voice notes to each other multiple times a day
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  Speaker 1: that go for five, six, seven, eight minutes like at
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  Speaker 1: a time, and we'll have weird eight minutes one side
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  Speaker 1: of conversations. We bounce off each other.
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  Speaker 2: We just call each other and do it live.
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  Speaker 1: We wouldn't cover the same ground, mate, you know. We
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  Speaker 1: get each other like we're providing a podcast for the
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  Speaker 1: other person to listening to in the car. But I
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: over and get into geek. Actually no, it was over on.
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  Speaker 1: I got my own little channel that I've had for
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  Speaker 1: about two years, and I've had five episodes go out,
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  Speaker 1: but it's Mitch Lewis Reviews and this. I was just
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Superman trailer when they released that, and
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  Speaker 1: for a three minute trailer. I think the end result
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  Speaker 1: was thirty three minutes. But I recorded for outside of
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  Speaker 1: watching it twice, So take six minutes off. I recorded
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  Speaker 1: for fifty just talking about a three minute trailer and
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  Speaker 1: around the movie itself and the lead in. So clearly
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know that I could even do that for like a
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  Speaker 2: day's the future past.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, try it just for a little experiment, mate. So
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  Speaker 1: having said all that, I've proven to myself that I
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  Speaker 1: can sit in this room and just talk. Yet the
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  Speaker 1: idea of talking about this episode scared the shit out
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  Speaker 1: of me. To go back to that start with you
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  Speaker 1: still here and please be delicate with your other universe mentions.
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  Speaker 1: At the beginning, I'm thinking is why is Rodney making
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  Speaker 1: being so casual about Well, I shocked down the next sister. No, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: these two have clearly got a thing for you. I've
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  Speaker 1: shocked done the next one. I've got her. She's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be hot. They've said she's even more beautiful. I shocked Gunner.
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  Speaker 1: You get all the hot aliens. I want her, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, wasn't it like a week or two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Ago, literally the end of the previous episode last week? Right,
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  Speaker 2: he was about to propose to Katie, Like what then
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  Speaker 2: man said, I'm not going to do that because I
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  Speaker 2: need to grow as a human being first, Like, how.
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  Speaker 1: How how key are you to move on? How can
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  Speaker 1: are you to grow in these areas?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even remember her name. No, I didn't even
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  Speaker 2: know the new princess's name.
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  Speaker 1: Now it wouldn't have mattered. And then comes out and
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  Speaker 1: it's a child, and it's like, oh, that that awkward
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  Speaker 1: chat you were saying before, that's fine, And then I
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  Speaker 1: recognize so straight away it's got to be that Jodelle
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  Speaker 1: Jodell Furland. And I only know I think at the
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  Speaker 1: time it must well would have been a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years shy of her showing up in Twilight. Right, she
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  Speaker 1: was the I want to say she was the daughter
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  Speaker 1: of Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson with the awful hybrid name.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say she wasnes Me and Twilight.
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  Speaker 2: That was only a CGI and it was a CGI baby.
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  Speaker 1: It was a CGI baby. I think I thought.
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  Speaker 2: You were going to say, I got I know she
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  Speaker 2: was didn't popular in Dark Matter. I think you're going
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  Speaker 2: to say pretty little liars or something. You always seem
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  Speaker 2: to pull out pretty little liars. I mean, let's go
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  Speaker 2: easy on always well whenever there's a young female character
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  Speaker 2: like she was and pretty little lies.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I mean I've definitely done it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: wish that I had watched that show.
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  Speaker 2: The last The last time we saw Jodell was in Stargate.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say we have she was young
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  Speaker 2: Andrea in the opening of season ten. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: she was like I'm very hungry. Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels a little bit too close to have
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  Speaker 1: reused a She's a key character, and I'm sure we
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  Speaker 1: never see her or maybe we do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, not until Dark Matter. That's I think it was
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  Speaker 2: because Dark Matter was the show that I thought, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not a target episode. No, no, no, that was
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  Speaker 2: the show that I want to say Joe and Paul
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  Speaker 2: did after Stargate.
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  Speaker 1: Like I apologize, No, it wasn't. She wasn't. She wasn't
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  Speaker 1: rines mate as this other chick Mackenzie Foy, who I've
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: I think I've seen her up here and stuff more recently. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think Janelle Philand though has appeared in
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  Speaker 1: her in a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is the reason that she was in this episode.
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  Speaker 4: Carl and I did kind of an idea swap because
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  Speaker 4: I had kind of the original inkling for for quarantine,
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  Speaker 4: and he kind of took that and ran with that,
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  Speaker 4: And then he had this idea about this, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Shepperd and McKay having an escort this brat prince of
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  Speaker 4: some sort through some sort of quest and I really
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  Speaker 4: liked that idea. And of course, uh, the prospect of
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  Speaker 4: having to cast a teen year old boy or twelve
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  Speaker 4: year old boy to carry an episode was terrifying to me,
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  Speaker 4: and I remembered, uh, Jordelle is a Geordelle Jodelle Jodell sorry,
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  Speaker 4: uh from well, she's been in tons of movies, but
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  Speaker 4: also uh obviously season ten of of SG Want and thought, well,
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  Speaker 4: she's amazing. So this is a rare occurrence where we
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  Speaker 4: actually called and made sure she was available and then
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  Speaker 4: once they were like, great, we have something to read,
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: and we were like, well no, uh, we were calling
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  Speaker 4: to see if she was available, and now she's a
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  Speaker 4: now that we have her locked in I'll go write
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  Speaker 4: a script, and so this is this was the result.
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  Speaker 4: I just thought it would be a lot more fun
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  Speaker 4: of a little girl as opposed to a little boy
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  Speaker 4: was playing with these guys.
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  Speaker 3: And Joe Delle is fantastic. I mean, you can't say
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  Speaker 3: enough good things about you. She is, Uh, she's crazy,
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  Speaker 3: I mean she is. She is so insanely talented.
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  Speaker 4: It makes uh, it makes it makes all of us
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  Speaker 4: look like lazy fops who have done nothing with our lives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's very good. She doesn't definitely play
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  Speaker 1: the brat very well. And I think, for sure it's
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  Speaker 1: so much better to have had a young girl than
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  Speaker 1: a young boy, because I think there's certain certainly, as
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  Speaker 1: a parent of both, the frustrations are different. And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, not that I'm a physical punishment,
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  Speaker 1: you know parent, even though I threatened my kids and go,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, the only thing we're not doing here,
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  Speaker 1: but they'll backhand. I'm not bringing out the belt. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when I was when I was a kid, you go
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  Speaker 1: ask your grandmother, you know, like, hey, I got wap.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like Shepherd would have no issue if they
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  Speaker 2: were if he was a douche little Prince Shepherd would
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  Speaker 2: have no issue just like angle tapping him and over.
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  Speaker 1: That's something like my kid. I'm like, oh, boys, they
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  Speaker 1: get they'll get older, they'll get bigger than me before
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  Speaker 1: they get old enough for me to have even considered
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  Speaker 1: that maybe they needed a little little slap across the face,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll they'll be able to completely take me down.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas having a daughter and I get I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she's nearly four, but still she's got that little toddle
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  Speaker 1: thing going on, And I'm like, what does this look
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  Speaker 1: like in three or four years when you're your brother's age?
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  Speaker 1: And I'll be angry, but there's only so angry that
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  Speaker 1: I can get with you. I'll just have to I
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  Speaker 1: have to be Rodney where I have to be frustrated,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't show you how frustrated. I
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  Speaker 1: don't just have to try and talk you out of it.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a little bit more fun room to explore there.
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  Speaker 1: And the manipulation of a young girl, And again say
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  Speaker 1: that as a father to a daughter, the manipulation that
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  Speaker 1: a young girl can can have over a man, as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to what a young boy can get away with
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  Speaker 1: you like made I've done that trick. You can't do
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  Speaker 1: that to me. I've done that. Whereas a little girl
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  Speaker 1: comes up when she says to Shepherd, he ate that
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  Speaker 1: you did. You didn't You're blaming it on me, and
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  Speaker 1: she and He's like, yeah, Rodney, that is something that
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  Speaker 1: you would do, like why would you eat my food?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this little bit, I'm gonna hate her.
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  Speaker 1: And she was so back and forth between the two
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  Speaker 1: of them, and she was doing it and then she
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  Speaker 1: sort of softened, but then she would have a hard
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  Speaker 1: edge about something else, and so she wasn't just a
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  Speaker 1: one trick pony through the whole thing. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here to antagonize Rodney, or I've got this ulterior motive.
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  Speaker 1: She did sort of, you know, change and develop over
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  Speaker 1: the course of the what you know, twenty four hour
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  Speaker 1: story or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there were layers to her braddiness. Yeah, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Dell is a really good actress. And the fact
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  Speaker 2: that everybody hates Harmony so much, oh yeah, you know
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  Speaker 2: in the show and the fandom is a credit to
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  Speaker 2: what she can do. Yes, you know, because she was
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  Speaker 2: very different from Adritt when we saw her as young
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  Speaker 2: Andrea only you know a year and oh, I guess
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  Speaker 2: a year and a half ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, you won't believe it. So I'm just looking
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  Speaker 1: through her IMDb trying to figure out where I know
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  Speaker 1: her from, and I'm like, why would I have thought Twilight,
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  Speaker 1: like the final two, the part one and Part two
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  Speaker 1: where she was in the number three. She was in
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  Speaker 1: Twilight eclips. She played a character called Brie. Not sure
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  Speaker 1: rewatched that movie, but there you go. So like I
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  Speaker 1: did have something in my head that was twenty ten
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  Speaker 1: and this episode of Stargate was from two thousand.
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  Speaker 2: And what to give us an eight?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so close, close enough.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a nice little time given that Cloneil
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  Speaker 2: was in Twilight as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: He was a human guy. He was Anna faris'sis Hendrick?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah boyfriend or yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, holy hell? Did we the universe? I always knew
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  Speaker 1: I knew that guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a great movie from nineteen ninety seven.
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  Speaker 2: I can get you to watch that he's in, but
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  Speaker 2: we won't talk about that, or I might get a microphone.
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  Speaker 1: You might have to talk about it to get yourself
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  Speaker 1: out of talking about this episode. Yeah, so like obviously
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: they go on they reveal that the oldest Okay, It's
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: like this was always going to end badly when they said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we just went in the brains trust decided that she
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: was going to be the right queen. Obviously one of
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the older two sisters is not going to be happy.
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  Speaker 1: It would have probably been not a better twist, but
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  Speaker 1: the twist if it was the happiest sister, the one
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  Speaker 1: that was presenting herself well and flirting with with John
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  Speaker 1: and and kind of sweetly threatening him like I would
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  Speaker 1: hate to jeopardize our partnership. But it wasn't. It was
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  Speaker 1: the other one, and she's in cohorts with with the Jeni,
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  Speaker 1: the most could I say, the most un threatening Jeni
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  Speaker 1: we've had on this show so far? Just you okay.
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  Speaker 2: So one very interesting that you picked up the sister
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: being the bad guy straight away, because we've seen the
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: actress and Stargate before. That is Nia, the girl from Emancipation,
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: the daughter that you know him and Aboo that we're
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: trying to get together. So you know, I don't want
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: to say that she's the reason. Maybe both these episodes
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: aren't fan favorites.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: You know, are you going to say not good? I'm like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you can't say that.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: No, I can't say that. You know, so maybe she's
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: she's the Kyle and Jackie Oh of Stargate.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It leads to shows, you know, not being their best.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I mean wildly they're grading radio. But obviously every show
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: they ever go on gets canceled. Every TV show that
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: TV Jackie have been on has been canceled. Yes, yes,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: the fund Dot you mentioned the Jeni guy, the nervous
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Jeni guy. Now he is one of the very few.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: He is Patrick Gilmour. He has already been we go,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: he has already known no, no, no, no, he's already
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: been an SG one.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: He was in that horrible Morphius episode where the falling
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: asleep bugs.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yep, he was in this.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: He goes on to play a recurring character named Volka
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: in Stargate Universe, and then after that he is one
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: of the star characters of Brad Wright's show after this, Travelers,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: where he plays the softest, most sweet, golden retrieve a boyfriend. Ever, basically,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Would be a role that not anything against necessarily him.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: He's not working off any great gear. And we can
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: say that because Giro I was about to say, MG gearro,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't want to bring But yeah, there was
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I think that moment where they were at the device
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and they were hiding behind the tree, the princess or
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the future Queen and our two guys and just the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: him casually standing there. There wasn't even like it's like
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: he wasn't even nothing against will and wearing, but like
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: directed well to be like, hey, you should probably take
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: some kind of cover, like both of you are talking
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: from behind like this giant oak tree.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That was a different guy. That was That was two
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: different Jannish.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So I'll happily cud all this out.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: But I know that's fine. The Janni was referencing, he's
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the one, the nervous one when you only he's the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: first one you encounter when he like he catches them
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: like before the end. He's he's like the nervous one
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: with kind of the curlier blonde hair.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's who I was talking about too.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: But no, there's there's two, and then there's like the
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: nonchalant guy later on, like the leader guy.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the one the one that went and saw
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the queen and gave her the little walkie talk. Yeah,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: He was like the boss guy, but they were both
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: just generic white men, you know, with blonde hair.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And when it when it first popped up then and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was it Rodney? Is you Jeni? When they first yeah,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: got them and nervously in the in the bush and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I thought, hang on, didn't I swear it was in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the in the Brendan times before he took a hiatus
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and you both were like, yeah, this is it for
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the Jani. We do we reach a point where you
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: guys said, we don't see the Jani again?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And that again, I don't know season four and five
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: very well at all.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: That's what my first thought was. Well, first thought was,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: hang on, we weren't supposed to see them. Second thought
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was that's right, Maddie case you know, not so much
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: about four and five. Add to that the filter that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he really doesn't like harmony. Of course he would forget about.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: The only thing I remembered about this our entire episode
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: is the painting. That's the only part of this episode
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: about it going in That was.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: A very fun way to end this episode. Yeah, especially
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: when she she had a little turn at the end.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be quite as drastic as
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: what she took us. Yeah, yeah, I mean saying that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: she still it wasn't like she she made a proposition
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to Rodney about, hey, just keep your options open because
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: one day I'm going to marry you. But even I'm
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like watching that, and I know occasionally we we run
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: our twenty twenty five or whatever here it was the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: podcast of that particular episode. Come out eyes and filter
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: over some of these episodes. But that's kind of half
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the fun of revisiting them now, going, hey, so much
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of this still works. So much of this stands up
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: some stuff you just wouldn't be able to get away with.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if it was fun at the start
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: where you didn't know they were talking about a child,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: but then towards the end, and it does work because
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you've got a child who is innocent enough, even though
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: she's about to be a queen and she's making some
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: very mature decisions. She's very aware of the world she's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: stepping into, but she's still got the naive and innocence
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of being a child. Where she's saying, I would like
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to marry John Shepherd and he would make a great king,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and Shepherd been like, yeah, you're going to get past that,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and Rodney'd be like, yeah, that's not something you want
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to do. No, I think I speak for both of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: us that it wasn't creepy. But at the same time,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: because it was a joke almost for the audience that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was made twice, I'm like, I don't know they do
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that these days. I think at the start it's fine,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: then when you reveal it a child, you're like awkward
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and you move on. You never mentioned it again.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Still less creepy than Allan like, oh, Carter's stalker, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: coming back as I mean, yeah, really actually being in love,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: because he was very.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Much speaking like a man trapped in a boy's body,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: going oh, but like you know back then, you know
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: what I would have done to you, and you know
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: what I want to do. Just hey, close your eyes
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and pretend I don't have a smooth face that's ever
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: had a shave, Like just don't look at my baby hands.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Just worry about what I'm going to do with it. So, yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as that, that's for sure. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and just yeah, it added another level to it, but
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it was just like it just you know, it offered nothing,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, like Okay, they're going for a walk, and like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: thank god there was you know, a usurping type you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: storyline to it. Otherwise I'm like, what is this going
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to be about? Oh, the Jeni here, But even making
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it the Jeni as opposed to just like bounty hunters
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: or mercenaries that the other sister hired, why make it
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Jani because then it complicates our relationship.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: With just being people who lived on that planet.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think this episode ends when we re
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: meet up again, or if we were to ever And
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I guess especially because we don't, as you guys have
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: told me, but if we were to ever meet up
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: with the leader they kept referring to, I feel like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: this wouldn't even be something that was mentioned. This would
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: not sour our relationship with him. So why does it
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: have to be the Jani at all? It didn't. It
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: didn't make them any more threatening like it should have,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: maybe because we know that we've had troubles with them
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in the past.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And Rodin even said like, we're kind of ally.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, because we're your biggest friends, right and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: me I've helped you out more than maybe any more
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: than anybody I desire than anybody and a bum for you.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It's great, it's fantastic.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Some are saying the best, you know, So it just
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: just some strange well I mean they could have tarifed
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: them and here that was what they were, you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they were talking about. But yeah, just it just it
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: just it didn't add anything to it. And then the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: overall episode, I'm like, I don't not every episode needs to,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you know, have an overall impact on the on the storyline.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: We love our filler.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Episode, but when you know, episodes one through ten were
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: all built up to the payoff of episode eleven.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: That's right, I'd even think about that.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: And then part now we're just like what and like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: we didn't even have Taylor or Ronan or Carter in
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: this episode, or Keller or you know anyone. Oh yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: interesting bit of trivia. This is the first episode of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Atlantis with no interior or exterior shots of Atlantis itself.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: The first the first not I guess even when our characters,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: our main sort of core four or five have been
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: stuck on the planet, they make a phone.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Call, they shut back or something, but yeah, no no
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: shots of Atlantis.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: How Like I obviously when I watched it. I noticed,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: but I'm not Sittney coming in with notes going oh yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: there was no Na, there was no Taylor, there was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: no card, there was no Zelenka, like, no, nothing, nothing.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's like they had a couple of thousand bucks to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: make this episode. It's like, well, I need five actors.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Heels like a one act play or something like that. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: so he did give us this bit of gold, though.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I think we can just add that to the soundboard.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Oh where's this going? I don't remember this bit? Oh,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: hang on, My thought about this about this audio goes
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: longer than the audio itself.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what he would have done. I mean,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: would we have then, like we've been saying the last
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: couple of episodes that if you know, this hardened warrior,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if he just had a real soft spot for kids
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and he was really good at communicating with children, you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: what would that have what would that have done? Already
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: have met his match?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe they should have cut back to the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: evil Sister and she was in bed with Ronan or
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, just interesting. Yeah, well maybe they get
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: back they got the Yeah, he's he's he's in bed
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with the with the nice one, and so he she
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: leaves bed with Ronan to go and meet up with
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the Jenai Gun.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they busted and yeah, we've got to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: go through your your wardrobe, and Ronan's like, I'm telling
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you she's clean, and then they pull out their walkie
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: talking and he feels betrayed. You know, she's just a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you know, a one night stand sort of thing. So look,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of areas areas we could have went through.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: This is the excuse they had for no Ronan. It
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: was a quick RTE And originally Ronan was in this episode.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: It was going to be the three guys and the
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: girl basically, and but for production issues, we had to
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: get Ronan out of like two days three days because
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: of some second unit stuff for quarantine midway, and so
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: it was just easier to take him out completely than
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: explain away why he wasn't around.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. Look in the end, if
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you're going to lose him from an episode to benefit another,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: make it this one like it was. If we would
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: have gone it, it would have been, you know, a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: not so great albeit shit episode with Ronan, and it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would have and he would have not contributed necessarily, but still,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, added to it being
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: shited by just being in it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I can't help but bring it back
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to weir though in that, you know, there was so
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: much frustration with any writer that wasn't Brad Right of
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out ways to include we are in
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: episodes to the point where at the end of season
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: three they write a character out, whereas then you get
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: an episode like this where it only has two of
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: our main characters and no shots of Atlantis.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So it's like it can be done. You don't have
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: to fire actresses to do it. Yeah, it can be done. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I think I think the best part of
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: this episode for me is that it gave us plenty
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of little bits of audio that we can add to
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the to the soundboard.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Excellent, I do a little thinking.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a wreath stunner in my backpack.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: She can't weigh more than ninety pounds, I said, we're stunner.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: It just character back.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Hm, well we can't stand a thirteen year old girl.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Just ah yeah. Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And then my favorite some of it should I think
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Ah, we're definitely adding that. Oh yeah, like I don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: know what else. I really don't know what else more
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to say about that. I mean, the beast thing, it
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: was like they're just throwing elements in. It's like, we
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: got this place they came. We're out here in a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: forest environment, treat very green. Great, it's not like we
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them in a thousand times. That's fine. We've
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: got a take ocean, a pilgrimage. Oh, by the way,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: there's like a just giant creature that occasionally kills people. Okay,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: moving on, and then they're hiding from it, and the noises,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's it almost sounds like, you know, the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: beam technology. It sounds like it sounds mechanical, it sounds artificial.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a beast, like a creature. And then
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: after the third time they hear it, you get them going, hang,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: it doesn't sound right. It more sounds like they're like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: oh this is yeah, this is drone techno. Oh that's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: what that noise would have been. I'm like, well, yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they weren't even trying to hide it from the audience.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then also, not a beast. It looks like
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: a swarm of fireflies, yeah, because they were mini drone.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: And just how bad did they mess those people up?
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: When they're just like, oh god, oh yeah, what could
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: oh what could do this? And because you know, the makeup,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the budget that shut the ship and obviously the rating
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: they would have to deal with to show the bodies.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: But then right at the end where it fit this
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and weird editing too, it was like there was this
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: one shot or one extended piece of the shot missing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: But when the swarm came out and took down the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: little Jennia leader and he lands on the ground and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: they just go through him and take off and like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you don't look that messed up though, Like yeah, it
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: just looks like he cut the beasting and he just
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: happens to be allergic and they go off and all
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: these men are like putty patrol, just like running away,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and they were all It was the way that they
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: exited the shot. It's like they were moving in the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: direction where Rodney and Shepherd were, like they were running
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: towards them, and then all of a sudden, sheperd Rodney
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just standing there just looking out going, oh thank god,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that's over. I'm like, aren't they right there? Yeah? You
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: would be able to see them at least for the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: next fifty meters. Well, they cut between trees, and I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: don't even know whether they knew where to look at
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that point, because Shepherd's looking in one spot and then
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Rodney's just doing is like really concerned, like looking all
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: over the place, eyes darting back, and I'm like, I
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: feel like the shot of them running away needed to
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: last at least another second or two off, like where
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you didn't see them at all, Like it was just
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a still shot on the bloke who got sworn by
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the drones, because I feel like it looked like they
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: were running in the direction they're all facing sort of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you know, camera left or screen left, no, sorry right,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they were looking to the right. Our heroes are looking
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to the left, so they're looking at each other. And
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: then when the Jani warriors leave, they run like to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the bottom right of the screen. So me the way
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that editing works, the way that sort of shot works,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: they're running toward our guys, and then our guys are
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: looking out like they've run away five minutes ago, and
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: they're just sort of on you know, a perimeter control.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: So just weird, little em it's here and there, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: yeah again it's it's it's ancient technolog Okay, of course
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it is, because you've got the gene that's gonna work
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: with the with the necklace and stuff. It was just
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like just throwing ship at the at the script and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: being like, yeah, just miss you know, just make all
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: that together, like AI back in the day, I want
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a Juni in it. I want a coup made by
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: an eventful sister against a younger one's gonna be a queen.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: What's an ancient technology? Please? Also to be said on
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a forest moon of endor like that's right, Like just
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: throwing it in, come up with a script and we
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: get this episode.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Well that's classic. That's classic Martin Gearra for you, because
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and I gave him some ship a couple of weeks
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: ago when I remember I played the audio where he
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: was shitting on like the comic book that had Martin
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Wood on the front of it, because it was a
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: reuse of the Avengers comic and it showed that Martain
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Geary doesn't actually know the franchise that he's running for.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: He also didn't know about it in this episode either.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Now, look, friends, there's a huge content continuity air in
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: this in this episode. Uh that you know, we vet
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: these scripts pretty well.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I mean we all read them, we all, but you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Rob and Brad were working on the movies and blah
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: blah blah. So we were watching I think the day
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: one mix of this, uh in this very room actually,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: and uh it came up and Rob goes, it's drone
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: testing ground. But I mean they had drones before they
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: were they were in the Pegasus galaxy. What about the
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: chair and the Arctic. There's just kind of silence.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And uh.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And I go, well, ship, great, great script. No, Rob,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and uh so it's the drone.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: It's the mini drone testing ground, and that they abandoned
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: cause many drones didn't is useful, Yeah, exactly easy.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: He also said there and I'm not one hundred percent
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: sury of this, but he said the chair in the Arctic.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I think he means the chair in the Anarctic. Ah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: No, it's all the same match has been ice, isn't it?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Literally the other side of the planet that had to
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: be That had to be a note And it's like, oh,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you mean like arguably at the time, the biggest thing
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the Stargate SG one, Yeah, TV series it ever done.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Was that two part final?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It was gonna be the original movie?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the like that thing? Yeah, did he miss that?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: You know what we needed to catch up on the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: season finale of season seven?
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nothing happens in that, right, How to get
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: back to that?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Make sure?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: What's that episode called Forgotten City?
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Is that what it's called?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ literally.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: The episode that sets up the current show that he's
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: exactly my God?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how is that not part of the Bible? Bible
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: for this show? Don't say Bible. He'll talk to himself
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: as being something of God. Absolutely well, Jesus Christ.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: A couple of other bits of trivia for you. The
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: cave that we found a better adurie in, the cave
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that we found a harmony in is actually redress of
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the Ark of Truth cave where the ancients were when
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: they were you know, leaving the the our Galaxy, the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: little cold open and stuff like that. Yeah, just a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: redress of redress of that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I sort of took note of the cave where
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: there was a shot sort of I think maybe the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: drones come. Shepherd was outside hiding from the Jani and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: then you know, we sort of start off with the princess.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Then we sort of you know, the pans over. We're
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: looking out the mouth of the cave and Rodney's there
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: as Shepherd comes back in. I'm thinking, I mean, I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: mistake of my own I had thought of it being
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: just like a natural cave. And so when they look
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: out and it's like very clear cut, flat walls, flat floor,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and oh, so this is like a man made thing. Okay, yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it's a facility as opposed to a man made that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: a natural thing. That's fine, that's fine, okay.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And then this one, I just want to tick you
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: know what with a feather and just put this on
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the record, put it on the pin it on the board,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: just so that we can talk about it at a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: later stage.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: That noise reminds me we were.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: This was one of the last shows that we posted,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: and I had already kind of left on vacation and
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: it's a lot in Hawaii and had to watch the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: day one mix of this, and Paul Molly, who's our
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: you know, the executive pduser and showrunner with Joe, I
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: called him because he was also in Hawaii. I said, hey,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I got a Harvey mix, you want to come over
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: and day two Harmony Mix.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I want to come over and watch it. He's like, no,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna stay here on.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: The beach with my kids. You you go ahead and
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: tell me how that turned out. Actually, it's pretty funny
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: because you know, we try it, you know, the producers
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: among us, we try not to go on vacation at
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: the same time because there's always stuff that needs to
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: get done. Someone's always got to be back in Vancouver
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: twelve months of the year. And it was Joe's turned
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: to kind of not go on vacation for that chunk
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: of time right after we wrapped, and there was.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Literally a.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Huge, huge, huge issues came up in the time that
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: we were gone, and you know, I don't want to
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: go to what but casting about production all going into
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: season five, there was there's a lot of there was
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff to deal with, and it was
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: it was great because Joe was having kind of a
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: nervous breakdown trying to deal with all these things, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: he would be on the phone to uh, you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Paul and I are relaying information and other people and
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: it was driving him crazy because I think he called
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Paul and.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Paul was like, oh, oh, look, oh, I see a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: whale in a rainbow.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Look a whale.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And Joe's like, yeah, great, listen, why don't you call
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: me back? And Paul's like, sure, I'll call you back
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: in like a week. If you could just deal with
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: all that, that'd be awesome.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, big, big issues for what did I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: costing and production leaning into season five?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just a little pin in that, guys.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't feel like I got all the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: context around because I'm like, what I what have I mean? Okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: You've got you covered. When I say you, I mean me,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I am to see you. Well, I think I've just
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: covered all the extensive notes that I had about this
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: About this episode, I.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Had two notes. I had a note that said g
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: McKay got over Katie quick, and then I had a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: note that said star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: then the rest is just all audio grabs. So I've
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: got one more audio.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Grab if I can get that out of the way.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: What do we got?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: All right, just play the last one.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: This is a gorgeous shot. We we shot it. This
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: is Wigan.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: No, this is where's that place? It's where the hell
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: it's an hour and a half. It's out of what
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: they call the zone.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Right, you have a zone.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: You draw a circle around your studio basically, and every
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: time you're outside of that, you have to pay the
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: actors more because the travel time is so immense, So
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: you have to put up the actors and some of
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the crew out in the middle of nowhere.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: But it you to get these amazing shots.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Otherwise that otherwise known as Maddie the Tony Gilroy rule.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn it. That's turn your microphone off.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's episode two hundred and eighty four of
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Stargates Atlantis, the excellent episode. I almost could guarantee where
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that's going to find itself at our seasonal rank at
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the end of season four. That's harmony. We will be
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: back next week to talk about outcasts. Whatever that is.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Will be back because that's what we do. That's how
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: podcast runs. We're doing it today, we did it yesterday,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: We'll be doing it again tomorrow.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I can't even influence your thoughts because I have no
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: memory of what outcast.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I have no idea coming in the water's warm.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Couldn't even pretend to give you some kind of inkling
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: as to what this episode is.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Couldn't even pretend you can't give me like a main character.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: The guy that sings, hey, I have no idea, like
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: no idea.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It is where a say not okay if that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Get into Gate, Get into Gate, Stargate podcast, Get into
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: it now before it's too late.