Latest / Garden America Saturday / Public Garden Design & Magnolias with Andrew Bunting [041925]
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Garden America Show, the country's most to
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- 0:13Speaker 2: Now Here's Brian Maine.
- 0:15Speaker 1: John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the Garden America Radio
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- 0:21Speaker 3: John may not FIUs, but we're there, and by that
- 0:24Speaker 3: I mean John beg Nasco. Good morning, it is Garden America.
- 0:27Speaker 3: We see you, U see us if you're tuned in
- 0:29Speaker 3: on the Facebook Live. Also want to welcome those on
- 0:32Speaker 3: biz Talk Radio. Thank you so much for tuning in.
- 0:34Speaker 3: This would be our one for you on biz Talk
- 0:37Speaker 3: Radio Facebook Live. We keep on rolling right on through
- 0:39Speaker 3: both hours.
- 0:40Speaker 4: Here.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Brian Main, Tiger Palafox. John still
- 0:44Speaker 3: looks a little confused.
- 0:45Speaker 4: Tiger.
- 0:45Speaker 2: He's still working on finding us, still.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Working and finding us on his phone. And it's important
- 0:49Speaker 3: because you're right here. Yeah, because you monitor most of
- 0:51Speaker 3: the questions and.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Comments exactly the most important job over there.
- 0:55Speaker 4: So he's got us. We're good.
- 0:56Speaker 5: Got a lot of people saying good morning and happy.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Happy Easter weekend.
- 1:01Speaker 2: By the way.
- 1:01Speaker 4: We're going to the three o'clock service today at the
- 1:03Speaker 4: North Coast. Really, yes, well we're going. We're going tonight
- 1:08Speaker 4: also because they suggested that we go because Sunday is.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Well, right, but you're going to the five o'clock probably, Yeah,
- 1:18Speaker 3: we're going to the three o'clock because we figured they'll
- 1:20Speaker 3: be even less people.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Yeah, at the three o'clock.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Where is three or where is are you going?
- 1:25Speaker 4: Disc the bistic camp the main campus, right, do you
- 1:28Speaker 4: know who's giving the sermon?
- 1:30Speaker 5: I thought it would be Chris Chris, I hope it's
- 1:37Speaker 5: five minute drive.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:39Speaker 4: Yeah, well we'll be like two ships passing, we'll be leaving,
- 1:42Speaker 4: you'll be arriving.
- 1:43Speaker 5: Yeah, except we're going to faulb.
- 1:46Speaker 4: Okay, So anyway there, Happy Easter weekend to you.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And and it really was a spring week here I think,
- 1:56Speaker 2: meaning you know, the weather, the warm the mid I
- 2:00Speaker 2: see the rain and now beautiful sunny skies.
- 2:03Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but it was cold and misty the
- 2:07Speaker 5: last few days.
- 2:08Speaker 2: My euse.
- 2:08Speaker 5: Yes, this morning I got up and I could see
- 2:10Speaker 5: my breath really right, that cold forty three that is freezy.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it was forty nine in the way in this morning.
- 2:17Speaker 5: People back east are saying.
- 2:18Speaker 4: Ye, forty three feet right. But now, in all fairness,
- 2:23Speaker 4: you're from Detroit, so you've you've been through it. You
- 2:26Speaker 4: know what cold.
- 2:29Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, you know the from Detroit. How
- 2:33Speaker 2: long has it been since you've lived back east?
- 2:35Speaker 5: John fifteen, nineteen seventy seven, fifty almost fifty years, Yeah, exactly,
- 2:42Speaker 5: lived out here.
- 2:43Speaker 2: It's forty eight years, so well before you were born,
- 2:45Speaker 2: so you know. I mean, I don't think you can
- 2:47Speaker 2: claim that he knows what it's like.
- 2:50Speaker 4: You know what he grew up. I mean, he knows
- 2:52Speaker 4: what cold is.
- 2:53Speaker 3: But let me let me tell you this is interesting
- 2:54Speaker 3: that you bring that up, because I went to school
- 2:56Speaker 3: flag Staff, Arizona, and it snows, it gets very cold.
- 3:00Speaker 3: It's interesting because if I go out here and it's
- 3:03Speaker 3: forty five, I'm freezing. But I remember going down downstairs
- 3:07Speaker 3: to the garage and Flagstaff to get wood, and it
- 3:09Speaker 3: would be like thirty five thirty six. It didn't seem
- 3:13Speaker 3: as cold as forty five for some reason. And I'm
- 3:15Speaker 3: not sure if it's because of location, because I'm in
- 3:17Speaker 3: kind of the snow and here it doesn't really snow,
- 3:20Speaker 3: but it's just cold.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Just weird.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Forty five compars thirty five.
- 3:23Speaker 2: We're just underprepared here.
- 3:25Speaker 5: Well, I told you this story because it's all relative,
- 3:28Speaker 5: So this goes along with what you're saying. When I
- 3:30Speaker 5: went to Fairbanks, Alaska in January, I gave a talk
- 3:36Speaker 5: at the University of Alaska.
- 3:40Speaker 4: The Royal Order of the Polar Bears.
- 3:43Speaker 5: But the woman at the hotel drove me to the
- 3:45Speaker 5: airport when I was coming home, and she just puts
- 3:50Speaker 5: on one of those down vests. Yeah, you know, and
- 3:53Speaker 5: I've got like good park yeah, and I've got those
- 3:57Speaker 5: little heat pads.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:59Speaker 5: In the temperature it was thirty five below outside. And
- 4:02Speaker 5: I said, that's all you're going to wear? And she goes, yeah, yeah,
- 4:06Speaker 5: we're going to the car. It's gonna be a little
- 4:09Speaker 5: nippy tonight, but you know, And I said, but it's
- 4:12Speaker 5: it's freezing out there. She goes, oh no, no, fifty
- 4:15Speaker 5: degrees is really cold because that's when your bones freeze. Yeah.
- 4:19Speaker 4: No, I get what she's saying.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, relative. So it has been nice. It was
- 4:23Speaker 3: a nice We had a little rain a couple of
- 4:25Speaker 3: nights ago.
- 4:26Speaker 5: Well that's why I picked out the quote this week,
- 4:29Speaker 5: because the quote was about March. But we had March,
- 4:33Speaker 5: at least California March. Whether this last week we did.
- 4:36Speaker 5: And in one of his books, Charles Dickens had written,
- 4:40Speaker 5: it was one of those March days when the sunshine's
- 4:43Speaker 5: hot and the wind blows cold, when it's summer in
- 4:47Speaker 5: the light and winter in the shade.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Did you see how he slipped that quote in this week?
- 4:51Speaker 2: Love it? I love it?
- 4:52Speaker 4: Just kind of went right, great segue.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Right out he followed our scripts. Wow, you know this
- 4:56Speaker 2: was good, these pre show meetings.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Wonders as per our meeting. You'll need to read that
- 5:04Speaker 3: again later on for those that join us later.
- 5:06Speaker 2: On in the program per our meeting, for our meeting.
- 5:09Speaker 5: This morning, I like our buddy has stam and Pakistan,
- 5:13Speaker 5: which is this good morning even though it's the moon's
- 5:16Speaker 5: probably shining where he is.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. A lot of people on different time
- 5:20Speaker 3: zones around the world.
- 5:21Speaker 4: So welcome.
- 5:21Speaker 3: We hope you had a good week. Happy Easter weekend.
- 5:23Speaker 3: We are back. We have a guest today. It's not
- 5:26Speaker 3: just going to be us pontificating tiger, right.
- 5:28Speaker 2: Correct, We're going to have Andrew Bunting, the vice president
- 5:31Speaker 2: of Horticulture over there. At the Pennsylvania Horticultural Society.
- 5:37Speaker 3: I think, did I Pennsylvania? Did I we Philadelphia? It's Pennsylvania, right,
- 5:40Speaker 3: it is. I read somehow in my mind I read Philadelphia.
- 5:44Speaker 5: I just wanted to mention that Mario from New Hampshire
- 5:48Speaker 5: says good morning, good morning.
- 5:50Speaker 3: You know we don't hear enough from New Hampshire. Mario,
- 5:53Speaker 3: thank you for representing New Hampshire.
- 5:55Speaker 5: Hampshire is fine, the new new one that we appreciate. Kyle,
- 6:00Speaker 5: by the way, he says good morning to everyone, and
- 6:02Speaker 5: she says, and yes, so blessed East that to all
- 6:04Speaker 5: of you. May it be more than bunnies, eggs and
- 6:07Speaker 5: chocolate for you?
- 6:08Speaker 2: Oh?
- 6:08Speaker 5: Absolutely, you know, if it wasn't for Easter, Easter is
- 6:11Speaker 5: the only reason we celebrate Christmas.
- 6:14Speaker 3: Ranastically right to kind of go together, if you know
- 6:18Speaker 3: what I mean. So I sent John a couple of pictures,
- 6:22Speaker 3: Uh roses you saw Laura Bush and Laura Bush.
- 6:25Speaker 5: Oh did you send me lemon spice too? You know
- 6:27Speaker 5: I thought that was an old photo.
- 6:29Speaker 4: No, I took them. They were starting. Everything's starting to
- 6:31Speaker 4: bloom now. So I get all proud of my roses.
- 6:33Speaker 4: I want to show them to John.
- 6:34Speaker 5: I had already had the newsletter done. We might pictures
- 6:38Speaker 5: in but I saved it.
- 6:40Speaker 4: Yeah, you know when we're short of pictures.
- 6:42Speaker 5: I thought the lemon spice looked especially good.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Thank you. I'd like to give and add a boy
- 6:45Speaker 4: from John.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Is this shocking to you? John? I was at a
- 6:47Speaker 2: customer's house in Myriata, Okay, and they had I don't know,
- 6:52Speaker 2: maybe thirty or forty roses in the backyard. Every one
- 6:56Speaker 2: of them fully leafed out, fully beautiful, bull, bull and blue.
- 7:02Speaker 2: That's what they should be right now. I felt like
- 7:04Speaker 2: it was early, but you're you think you're you're there.
- 7:07Speaker 2: They were perfectly fine.
- 7:09Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it depends on when you prune.
- 7:10Speaker 4: Also, yeah, if they're if they're pruning correctly, if they
- 7:13Speaker 4: pruned earlier right the once I.
- 7:16Speaker 5: Pruned last week or still left prune till January, maybe
- 7:22Speaker 5: early February.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I was just so impressed. I was just andre. And
- 7:25Speaker 2: the reason why I say Murieta too is because they
- 7:27Speaker 2: get cold, like they get cold, but they also get
- 7:30Speaker 2: heat get warm.
- 7:30Speaker 5: Yeah, you know on the coast where you are that
- 7:33Speaker 5: you get a lot more over cast godge.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, by the way, we still get a high
- 7:38Speaker 3: surf warnings from Alexa in script ranch there's a high
- 7:41Speaker 3: surf advisory and you can't, you know, you can't question
- 7:44Speaker 3: her like like, Alexa, we don't live near the coast.
- 7:48Speaker 4: Why are you giving us?
- 7:50Speaker 2: Be quiet? Brian, No, it's like, I'm sorry.
- 7:52Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that.
- 7:54Speaker 2: That's a uh. Brian has a new friend that he
- 7:58Speaker 2: likes to talk to my co pilot. Yeah, exactly like him.
- 8:01Speaker 4: We're buddies. Just because of the Wi Fi here, he's
- 8:03Speaker 4: having a hard time getting through.
- 8:04Speaker 2: But what did he say? What's up?
- 8:06Speaker 4: Because he goes, what do you want?
- 8:09Speaker 2: Is that what he says?
- 8:10Speaker 6: Want?
- 8:10Speaker 4: What can I do for you? Gee? I'm sorry? I
- 8:12Speaker 4: disturbed you were you having breakfast? Hey?
- 8:15Speaker 3: We should mention two of the cartoon on our Facebook.
- 8:19Speaker 3: You know, John has become a one panel syndicated cartoonist,
- 8:24Speaker 3: or so it appears, and he syndicates with us. It
- 8:27Speaker 3: doesn't leave Garden America. That was good, and I love
- 8:30Speaker 3: your program.
- 8:31Speaker 4: Tiger looks more like Tiger than Tiger does and that's
- 8:35Speaker 4: very good.
- 8:36Speaker 5: It's it's been hard to you came out. You make
- 8:40Speaker 5: a perfect cartoon.
- 8:42Speaker 4: Care I don't like my nose though, I don't nose
- 8:44Speaker 4: like that. I've got an old man nose.
- 8:46Speaker 5: That's a caricature, I.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Guess.
- 8:51Speaker 5: But yeah, surprised that you still complain about being an
- 8:55Speaker 5: old man in anything.
- 8:56Speaker 2: That's what you are.
- 8:57Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, don't appear. No, you did
- 9:02Speaker 4: a good job. It's now do you have one for
- 9:04Speaker 4: next week? Ready? Do we need to discussion?
- 9:06Speaker 5: But you know, if you got any ideas, just send
- 9:08Speaker 5: them to me. I now I can use almost any
- 9:10Speaker 5: idea and make a cartoon.
- 9:13Speaker 4: This is good because if I can send it to
- 9:14Speaker 4: him without him being in the room, I won't see
- 9:16Speaker 4: the eye roll. If he doesn't like my idea, you just.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Don't see it.
- 9:19Speaker 4: I just see it.
- 9:21Speaker 2: You just don't never see it published.
- 9:22Speaker 4: I want, I want to, Yeah, I want to exactly.
- 9:24Speaker 5: Do you remember I sent you a list of you
- 9:26Speaker 5: had asked for ideas when you were trying to do
- 9:29Speaker 5: some cartoons, and so right now I'm working off that list.
- 9:34Speaker 5: Did I sent you? No, the one that I see
- 9:36Speaker 5: you sent you. I think it was last year or sometime.
- 9:39Speaker 2: I think it was almost two years ago.
- 9:40Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, most of mine were not garden related. But
- 9:44Speaker 4: we could fix it.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do some good concepts in there.
- 9:48Speaker 5: Yeah, the ones I sent you were all gard.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Okay, well that's another direction we're going. If anybody have
- 9:54Speaker 3: any ideas, let us know. You know what's funny to
- 9:57Speaker 3: you That is the funny thing about gardening as well.
- 10:01Speaker 2: You know, we talk about just the real life experiences
- 10:03Speaker 2: and you have to poke fun at yourself right when
- 10:06Speaker 2: your guarden.
- 10:06Speaker 4: You have to.
- 10:07Speaker 2: That's the only way to really enjoy it. There you go, see,
- 10:12Speaker 2: you know, because that's the only way to really enjoy it.
- 10:15Speaker 2: You're gonna have failures, You're gonna have success. It's just
- 10:18Speaker 2: a matter of you know, being able to embrace the idea.
- 10:21Speaker 2: I get so, I don't know, not upset, but when
- 10:27Speaker 2: customers come in and they get so frustrated that they
- 10:30Speaker 2: were not successful and there's no real reason besides they
- 10:35Speaker 2: just weren't success.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Welcome to the club. It happens. It's life, life in
- 10:39Speaker 4: the garden. We didn't mention the earthquake at all.
- 10:42Speaker 5: Did we, No, No, But Carla and Huntington Beach fund No.
- 10:45Speaker 3: If we felt we can quickly address that, we need
- 10:49Speaker 3: to take a break. BIS talk Radio, Facebook Live, Welcome
- 10:51Speaker 3: to guard in America. Back after these messages for our
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- 11:06Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
- 11:09Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
- 11:11Speaker 4: Alrighty, I hope.
- 11:12Speaker 3: You had a good break. Welcome back to the show
- 11:14Speaker 3: the really Big Shoe here. This is Garden America. We're
- 11:16Speaker 3: having a good time. I'm Brian Maine, John Begnasco, Tiger Pelafox.
- 11:19Speaker 3: The three of us, well two of us, felt the
- 11:21Speaker 3: earthquake last week. Tiger did not. Tiger was driving.
- 11:24Speaker 5: Trying to think it was six point seven right around there.
- 11:28Speaker 4: I know it was above six Yeah, I guess, yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 4: I mean that's that's pretty strong.
- 11:32Speaker 2: That's decently. Yeah.
- 11:34Speaker 5: Paula mentions that that there was long and loud in Baulbrook,
- 11:38Speaker 5: and I was just telling Tiger it was definitely loud.
- 11:41Speaker 5: It was like a semi drove into my house. But
- 11:44Speaker 5: I didn't think it was long because I got the
- 11:48Speaker 5: note on my phone to take cover while it was
- 11:50Speaker 5: over by the time.
- 11:51Speaker 4: You know what interesting you bring that up.
- 11:53Speaker 3: I have an earthquake app and it'll tell me like
- 11:55Speaker 3: whenever there's an earthquake someplace.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Yeah, usually there's a lot of them too, right, But
- 11:58Speaker 2: this was.
- 11:59Speaker 4: So close to my phone went off in alarm. Yeah,
- 12:02Speaker 4: and it's that earthquake. Earthquake. Duck. I'm like what then
- 12:06Speaker 4: it hit? Oh?
- 12:07Speaker 3: Really it hit probably a second and a half after
- 12:10Speaker 3: I got a notification because I'm thinking what's this for?
- 12:13Speaker 4: And then boomlett and I said, this is a pretty
- 12:15Speaker 4: good app.
- 12:17Speaker 5: Told me after it was over. No, I got it before.
- 12:21Speaker 5: You know, Paul is mentioning five point two. That was
- 12:23Speaker 5: the initial what they upgraded it later.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Okay, So with that business out of the way, it
- 12:29Speaker 3: is time to bring on Andrew and anybody on Facebook Live.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Of course, questions comments will roll into that, so feel
- 12:36Speaker 3: free and tiger. Let's see what's happening with Andrew.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Yeah, so Andrew Bunting is joining us this morning. He's
- 12:41Speaker 2: the vice president of horticulture there at the Pennsylvania Horticultural
- 12:47Speaker 2: Society Court Society. You know, Andrew joins us. He's got
- 12:51Speaker 2: a he got a bachelman science and plants and soil
- 12:54Speaker 2: science from the Southern Illinois University. And you guys don't
- 12:59Speaker 2: have too many earthquakes, so their back east, do you Andrew? Morning? Andrew?
- 13:07Speaker 4: Go ahead, Andrew, there we go. You with us.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Just because you hit one button and the other doesn't
- 13:17Speaker 2: mean you did it right.
- 13:18Speaker 4: You know what, keep talking? I can. I can kind
- 13:20Speaker 4: of hear him. Oh okay, so yeah, go ahead.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, Andrew's you know, joining us now
- 13:26Speaker 2: from you know, the Pennsylvania Horse Society. That's the that's
- 13:29Speaker 2: the home of the phil Andrew you joining us now?
- 13:34Speaker 4: Yeah, he's there, Andrew, and hear you. There we go.
- 13:37Speaker 4: Can you hear us now?
- 13:40Speaker 5: Yeah, we can hear Andrew. No, No, he can't hear us.
- 13:44Speaker 2: I can.
- 13:45Speaker 6: I can hear both of you talk.
- 13:48Speaker 4: Okay, I'm Brian, I'm with Tiger and John. How's that sound.
- 13:51Speaker 6: Yeah, I can. I can barely hear you. Brian.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Andrew? This is Tiger.
- 13:57Speaker 6: Yeah, a little better, but still the same.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Okay, we'll try to work on that on our end,
- 14:02Speaker 2: on Brian's end of trying to get the audio up. Andrew,
- 14:06Speaker 2: thank you for joining us this morning. I was just saying,
- 14:10Speaker 2: you guys don't have too many earthquakes back east, do you.
- 14:14Speaker 6: Well, occasionally have a little rumble, but that's that's been
- 14:17Speaker 6: like the West coast.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys don't don't worry about it as
- 14:21Speaker 2: much as we do. But you know, I was, I
- 14:24Speaker 2: was just we were just talking and you know, I mean,
- 14:27Speaker 2: I hope I don't, you know, have anything happen anytime soon.
- 14:31Speaker 2: But I really haven't felt an earthquake since I was
- 14:34Speaker 2: a kid. Every time there's been one, I've been doing
- 14:37Speaker 2: something that therefore I haven't felt it. Like this time
- 14:40Speaker 2: I was driving and I didn't really feel it, or
- 14:42Speaker 2: I didn't feel it at all, I should say. So
- 14:45Speaker 2: it's been a while since I've been in a room
- 14:47Speaker 2: and then scared from an earthquake. You know, it's just
- 14:51Speaker 2: see what happens.
- 14:52Speaker 4: One of those things, Yeah, happen.
- 14:54Speaker 5: Well, Tiger's thought there was an earthquake when he was
- 14:56Speaker 5: walking in the forest, but turned out they were just quaking.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Ass, Okay, that's okay, I'm sure, andrews saying, are we
- 15:04Speaker 4: going to get on with this interview? What do we go?
- 15:07Speaker 2: So? Andrew tell us a little bit about the Pennsylvania
- 15:13Speaker 2: Court Society and your guys's history and a little bit
- 15:17Speaker 2: about the background of it.
- 15:18Speaker 6: Sure, So we're almost two hundred years old. We were
- 15:23Speaker 6: founded in eighteen twenty seven, so twenty twenty seven will
- 15:28Speaker 6: be two hundred years old, and we've We've been lots
- 15:31Speaker 6: of different things over the last two hundred years. The
- 15:35Speaker 6: probably one thing that's remained constant is we also produced
- 15:40Speaker 6: the Philadelphia Flower Show, which was started in eighteen twenty
- 15:45Speaker 6: nine just to get two years after the starting of
- 15:48Speaker 6: the Society, And back then it was off the place
- 15:53Speaker 6: where new plants were showcased, like the first point Statia
- 15:56Speaker 6: ever that came to the market for showcased at the
- 15:59Speaker 6: eighteen twenty nine Flower Show. Today, the HOURT Society does
- 16:06Speaker 6: many things. Our mission to advance the health and well
- 16:12Speaker 6: being in the Philadelphia region through horticulture, and we do
- 16:16Speaker 6: that through four impact priorities, which are creating healthy living environments,
- 16:22Speaker 6: increasing access to fresh food, expanding economic opportunity, and building
- 16:27Speaker 6: meaningful social connections. And we do that to three major
- 16:32Speaker 6: programmatic arms. We maintain about twenty two public gardens and
- 16:36Speaker 6: landscapes throughout the city and one in the suburbs. We
- 16:40Speaker 6: have a big program street Trees, community gardens me meaning
- 16:45Speaker 6: greening and vacant lots, and workforce development. And then the
- 16:50Speaker 6: third programmatic arm is the Flower Show. And then we
- 16:55Speaker 6: also have a robust members programs, so we have members
- 16:59Speaker 6: of the society and we offer them tours and trips
- 17:04Speaker 6: and lectures and would produce some magazine four times a year.
- 17:08Speaker 6: So that's kind of what a PHS is today, you know.
- 17:13Speaker 2: And you know, this concept of the maintaining and keeping
- 17:18Speaker 2: up of gardens in the community is just so important.
- 17:20Speaker 2: People don't realize it. There was a you know, a
- 17:23Speaker 2: study done a while ago, and I'm sure it's nothing
- 17:26Speaker 2: new to the people listening, but it just really puts
- 17:28Speaker 2: some information, factual information and stats to a concept that
- 17:33Speaker 2: we all know but don't always realize. And it's just
- 17:36Speaker 2: the idea that when you are in an area with
- 17:40Speaker 2: you know, green space, with actual you know, beautiful plants
- 17:45Speaker 2: and in landscapes, your whole being is better. And they
- 17:50Speaker 2: way they did this research was by you know, school campuses,
- 17:56Speaker 2: and you know, they took a school campus and they
- 17:58Speaker 2: made it you know, very bland and a lot of fences,
- 18:01Speaker 2: a lot of asphalt, and they started seeing the students
- 18:04Speaker 2: and how they learned and how they responded in the
- 18:06Speaker 2: classroom and you know, just their overall well being. And
- 18:09Speaker 2: then they took you know, a group of kids and
- 18:11Speaker 2: they put them on a beautiful campus where you know,
- 18:13Speaker 2: they went outside and they learned under trees and they
- 18:16Speaker 2: had grass and they have flowers around them, and those
- 18:18Speaker 2: kids responded much better. And you know, so people don't
- 18:22Speaker 2: realize the importance of maintaining those green spaces around our
- 18:26Speaker 2: communities because it helps the people that live there, right Andrew.
- 18:29Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's right. We in fact our I mentioned
- 18:32Speaker 6: our cleaning and green in a Vacant Lots sort of
- 18:36Speaker 6: a program that we do with City of philadels And
- 18:38Speaker 6: we identify the blighted kind of condemned properties that they
- 18:44Speaker 6: may have a existing house or house's falling in or
- 18:48Speaker 6: there its properties covered in crash.
- 18:50Speaker 1: So we.
- 18:52Speaker 6: Clean and greened those, removed the rubble grave, the site
- 18:58Speaker 6: so grassy, maybe plant a few trees, put a little
- 19:02Speaker 6: fence around it. And so these clean and green lots
- 19:05Speaker 6: are all over the city. There's thirteen thousand in total.
- 19:09Speaker 6: So we've worked with a scientist, doctor Eugenia out and
- 19:15Speaker 6: Sees at University of Pennsylvania. So she's taken of where
- 19:19Speaker 6: these green lots are throughout the city and studied their
- 19:24Speaker 6: impact on a variety of things including community prosperity, crime
- 19:31Speaker 6: and violence, and mental and physical health and just some
- 19:34Speaker 6: of her her stats include some one was study participants
- 19:40Speaker 6: living near green lots experience or trees.
- 19:45Speaker 2: And hey, sorry and new to cut you off. We
- 19:47Speaker 2: do have to pause work course breaking and want to
- 19:49Speaker 2: cut you off, but we'll get right back to that idea.
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- 19:56Speaker 4: I'm playing maintain Tucker Pelipot gone big nsco here. Thank
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- 20:11Speaker 7: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
- 20:14Speaker 7: John and Tiger.
- 20:16Speaker 3: All right, welcome back as we continue here on Garden
- 20:19Speaker 3: America with the Andrew Bunting and apologize for cutting you off,
- 20:22Speaker 3: but to have to pay some bills with our sponsors.
- 20:25Speaker 4: Tiger go right ahead.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, you were just talking about the program where
- 20:28Speaker 2: you guys actually take vacant spaces and beautify them, whether
- 20:34Speaker 2: with the use of you know, green you know, some
- 20:38Speaker 2: some plantings, grass, or just something that's going to be
- 20:41Speaker 2: better than just rubble and debris. And you guys actually
- 20:44Speaker 2: have a scientist doing research on the impact of the
- 20:47Speaker 2: surrounding community, is that right?
- 20:50Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, and so just some interesting that's so the
- 20:55Speaker 6: steady participants living near the green lawns experience forty one
- 21:00Speaker 6: percent decrease in feelings of depression and sixty two percent
- 21:05Speaker 6: reduction of self reported or mental health. And then she
- 21:10Speaker 6: also what's really interesting is she looked at crime data
- 21:17Speaker 6: to this analysis that was done over a thirty eight
- 21:20Speaker 6: month sty period and which Steve founts participants living near
- 21:26Speaker 6: treated vacant lots reported significantly reduced perceptions of crime by
- 21:33Speaker 6: thirty seven percent, vandalism by almost forty percent, and safety
- 21:38Speaker 6: concerns when going outside their homes by almost sixty percent.
- 21:43Speaker 6: Seventy five percent of the participants reports significantly increased use
- 21:49Speaker 6: of outside spaces for relacing and socializing, was a thirteen
- 21:54Speaker 6: percent reduction in crime overall, in a twenty nine percent
- 21:59Speaker 6: reduction and gun violent So you know, as you mentioned,
- 22:04Speaker 6: a green space can do a lot of things for
- 22:06Speaker 6: a lot of people, but there's good science to show
- 22:09Speaker 6: that it, especially in an urban area, how it impacts
- 22:14Speaker 6: mental health as well as reduction in crime. And we
- 22:18Speaker 6: all know that just you know, being in a green
- 22:22Speaker 6: space or near a green space or gardening, what that
- 22:25Speaker 6: does to us both mentally and physically.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's amazing, but
- 22:33Speaker 2: that that stuff isn't cheap, you know, from the idea
- 22:38Speaker 2: of you know having to go in there remove the rubble,
- 22:41Speaker 2: you know, actual do the planting and then you know,
- 22:44Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys are good stewards in the way
- 22:46Speaker 2: of you know, down the road. I mean, I'm sure
- 22:49Speaker 2: the plants that you choose are going to be something
- 22:51Speaker 2: that are going to impact the area in a good
- 22:54Speaker 2: environmental way slash not be high end maintenance. But is
- 22:59Speaker 2: your guys, is biggest fundraiser of the year, the Philadelphia
- 23:03Speaker 2: Flower Show.
- 23:05Speaker 6: It's part of it. Yeah, I would say there's you know,
- 23:09Speaker 6: we do a variety of different ways to raise funds
- 23:14Speaker 6: for pennsylvani Horticultural to say, one of them being the
- 23:19Speaker 6: Philadelphia Flowers Show. We also get funds from the City
- 23:24Speaker 6: of Philadelphia to support cleaning and green into vacant lots
- 23:28Speaker 6: in our workforce development program. We also have a member's programs,
- 23:33Speaker 6: so we get funding. We get a lot of different
- 23:35Speaker 6: brands from you know, local city family foundations, you know,
- 23:42Speaker 6: some state sources as well. So it's a I would
- 23:45Speaker 6: say there's many pieces for the of the funding high
- 23:50Speaker 6: that goes together to you know, bringing revenue and funding
- 23:56Speaker 6: sources for us each and every year.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Know, you know one of our listeners that is there
- 24:02Speaker 2: some is there a YouTube channel or you know for
- 24:07Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Flower Show, is there a way to kind
- 24:11Speaker 2: of check it out online? And I'm sure you guys
- 24:13Speaker 2: have a lot of resources, because that's one of the
- 24:15Speaker 2: other great things you guys do is share so much
- 24:18Speaker 2: information via your website, whether it is tutorials, whether it's
- 24:23Speaker 2: information new plants. You know, So if somebody did want
- 24:28Speaker 2: to find out more information specifically about the Flower Show,
- 24:31Speaker 2: they probably just visit your website, right.
- 24:34Speaker 6: Yeah, if you get a phs online dot org, you'll
- 24:38Speaker 6: see many tabs Flowers Show. Is there kind of there's
- 24:42Speaker 6: a whole tab on kind of gardener's information, I mean
- 24:45Speaker 6: a member or volunteering. You know, we have almost four
- 24:50Speaker 6: thousand volunteers, many of which do volunteer at the flowers.
- 24:54Speaker 6: So and if you're even if you're not in the area,
- 24:56Speaker 6: there are some opportunities to do volunteer remotely. We use
- 25:03Speaker 6: a lot of volunteers for tree planting. We've just got
- 25:06Speaker 6: a big tree planting last weekend, and we'll do another
- 25:09Speaker 6: big one in the fall. We have a huge community's
- 25:15Speaker 6: art in programs, so there's lots of ways for people
- 25:19Speaker 6: to get information but also get involved.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Speaking of trees, you know, your first book that you wrote,
- 25:27Speaker 2: or at least that's what it says online, was a
- 25:30Speaker 2: guide to Magnolia trees, am I.
- 25:33Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, that's right.
- 25:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Now, so you know a lot of people just think
- 25:37Speaker 2: the magnolia is white flower. You know, southern magnolia's giant trees.
- 25:44Speaker 2: But there's a lot of varieties, and people don't even
- 25:47Speaker 2: have an idea of you know, the deciduous varieties, pink flowers,
- 25:51Speaker 2: different shapes, different styles.
- 25:52Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, yeah, it's a big genus. Yeah, most people
- 25:57Speaker 6: are aware of the auscer magnolia that blooms in the
- 26:02Speaker 6: spring with white or pink flowers, or as you mentioned,
- 26:04Speaker 6: the southern magnolia with large, stiny, glossy leaves and blooms
- 26:10Speaker 6: in the late spring or summer. But there's many species,
- 26:15Speaker 6: hundreds of collections, if not thousands, and some are evergreen,
- 26:21Speaker 6: some are small, some are big. Mostly bloom in the spring,
- 26:25Speaker 6: but some bloom sporadically throughout the growing too. Then there's
- 26:31Speaker 6: seven species that are native east of the Mississippi. I
- 26:36Speaker 6: would say most species are native to stay southeastern Asia,
- 26:41Speaker 6: but there's a lot of species in Mexico, Central America,
- 26:45Speaker 6: northern South America, ports of the Caribbean. But a group
- 26:50Speaker 6: of plants that probably you know, most people only know
- 26:55Speaker 6: a handful of species and cultivars.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.
- 27:00Speaker 2: You kind of have a favorite grouping over in that
- 27:05Speaker 2: in that tree genus, or you just kind of like
- 27:07Speaker 2: them all.
- 27:08Speaker 6: I would say I do like some of the aren't
- 27:11Speaker 6: Eastern natives because they have big leaves almost of have
- 27:16Speaker 6: a tropical look. I do like the you know, the
- 27:20Speaker 6: early spring flaring ones, the star Magnolia, Leidner magnolia, and
- 27:26Speaker 6: It's Magnolia, saucer magnolia. Those are all like classic spring
- 27:32Speaker 6: flowering trees. You know a lot of people call the
- 27:35Speaker 6: magnolias the queen queen of the flowering trees, and they
- 27:39Speaker 6: it's nice about magnolia's as they bloom heavily every year.
- 27:43Speaker 6: You know, they don't get a year. Some years they
- 27:47Speaker 6: get then maybe they come out too early and get frosted.
- 27:49Speaker 6: It's always the risk they run. But yeah, it's you know,
- 27:56Speaker 6: there's many colors. There's pinks and white, and the poles
- 28:01Speaker 6: and magentas and some that border on red. And there's
- 28:05Speaker 6: a whole group of the yellow magnolias that's a group
- 28:09Speaker 6: that I like, and they tend to bloom later, so
- 28:11Speaker 6: they don't really run the risks ofting.
- 28:15Speaker 5: I just lost the magnolia last week. No gopher, it's
- 28:19Speaker 5: one of the New Zealand hybrids. Are they hardy in
- 28:24Speaker 5: in areas of Pennsylvania by any chance?
- 28:28Speaker 6: They're bet they're better on the west coast there a
- 28:31Speaker 6: lot of those New Zealand hybrids have a species called
- 28:34Speaker 6: Campbelli ee uh huh, which is native to the foothills
- 28:38Speaker 6: and Himalaya mountains, and that that that particular species doesn't
- 28:43Speaker 6: like our eating humidity. So you tend to see those
- 28:46Speaker 6: New Zealand types more like you know, southern California, northern California,
- 28:52Speaker 6: Pacific Northwest, but not not so much on the East coast.
- 28:56Speaker 6: Just just too hot and humid and.
- 28:59Speaker 5: In general from amazingly large flowers.
- 29:03Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, that's from the campbell eye parents. If
- 29:06Speaker 6: you if you google magnolia campbelly eye, some half flowers
- 29:11Speaker 6: that are twelve or fourteen inches across.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, in those southern magnolias too. It's
- 29:20Speaker 2: kind of like when you go to Hawaiian and you
- 29:21Speaker 2: see the pathos growing. It's huge and it's got the
- 29:24Speaker 2: leaf the size of a six foot person. Yeah, when
- 29:27Speaker 2: you go back east and you see this Magnoia tree
- 29:29Speaker 2: and it's the size of our our fight is trees
- 29:31Speaker 2: that we here, you know what I mean. They're just massive,
- 29:34Speaker 2: massive trees. It's so impressive. But you know, over here
- 29:37Speaker 2: we tend to like the magnolia little gem because everybody
- 29:41Speaker 2: wants everybody wants the magnolia, but they don't want the
- 29:44Speaker 2: size tree in their yard.
- 29:46Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's that's a good one. That's you know,
- 29:49Speaker 6: that's the selection of the southern magnolia that's more diminutive
- 29:54Speaker 6: in size. But you're right. If you go to say
- 29:58Speaker 6: anywhere from like wash and can be see south, you'll
- 30:01Speaker 6: see southern magnoli is that hour over one hundred feet
- 30:05Speaker 6: tall there, you know, are ubiquitous and massive landscape trees
- 30:11Speaker 6: and the.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Flower like you're saying, and it's so impressive because to
- 30:15Speaker 2: see his tree that size with that flowering capability as well,
- 30:19Speaker 2: it's pretty impressive. Hey, Andrew, we are going to take
- 30:22Speaker 2: another break when we get back from the break, we'll
- 30:24Speaker 2: continue chatting with Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania Courts Society.
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- 31:35Speaker 4: Tiger.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're chatting with Andrew Bunting from the Pennsylvania
- 31:40Speaker 2: Horticultural Society this morning, and we were talking about the
- 31:43Speaker 2: Philadelphia Flower Show, which is something that you guys put
- 31:46Speaker 2: on which recent the twenty twenty five went just passed.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Am I correct? Andrew?
- 31:51Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, we hold it every year. It's usually like
- 31:55Speaker 6: the first week of March, maybe the last few days
- 31:58Speaker 6: of worry for us. It's kind of you know, the
- 32:02Speaker 6: kickoff of spring in.
- 32:04Speaker 2: The on the on the East coast, and and along
- 32:08Speaker 2: with that, you guys kind of release some of your
- 32:12Speaker 2: new plants. Uh you're you're best of or or the
- 32:17Speaker 2: hot new plants that you guys are are promoting. Is
- 32:21Speaker 2: that correct?
- 32:22Speaker 6: Yeah, yep?
- 32:23Speaker 4: Do you do?
- 32:24Speaker 2: You have that that list? You you kind of know
- 32:26Speaker 2: some of those plants that you guys were sharing.
- 32:28Speaker 6: Yeah, I have them here, so you know, it's obviously
- 32:33Speaker 6: there's so many new plants that come out every year.
- 32:37Speaker 6: One of the things I do is part of my job,
- 32:40Speaker 6: is I try to go to trade shows around the country,
- 32:43Speaker 6: and I can't I can't hit them all, but I
- 32:45Speaker 6: go I kick off the year and go to one
- 32:48Speaker 6: in Baltimore, and then I usually go to one in Columbus, Ohio,
- 32:55Speaker 6: and then I might take in a couple others, also
- 32:59Speaker 6: trying to visit nurseries and see what's new. And there's
- 33:03Speaker 6: literally hundreds off not thousands of new plants every year,
- 33:08Speaker 6: so it's a little hard to narrow it down. So
- 33:11Speaker 6: I just picked a couple rubs and trees, so you know,
- 33:17Speaker 6: one plant that's had an amazing renaissance in the last
- 33:22Speaker 6: twenty years are the hydranges. And it really started prop
- 33:26Speaker 6: probably about twenty years ago. Marcus Stewart had a bouquet
- 33:30Speaker 6: of hydranges on the cover of her magazine, Marcus Stewart Living,
- 33:36Speaker 6: and ever since then there's been a global fixation on hydranges.
- 33:43Speaker 6: So one of the ones I've picked is there's a
- 33:47Speaker 6: species of hydrange hydrange of piculata, which blooms on new wood,
- 33:52Speaker 6: which means that he's sit it's hard during the winter
- 33:55Speaker 6: and got new stems. It'll it'll bloom that season and soon.
- 34:01Speaker 6: There's there's a number of diminutive ones, and one is
- 34:04Speaker 6: called dragon baby. There's many other smaller ones. Another one
- 34:10Speaker 6: that I like that's kind of small like that is
- 34:12Speaker 6: a little lime or bobo. And what's nice about them.
- 34:16Speaker 6: A regular hydrange of sticulate it can get twenty feet tall,
- 34:20Speaker 6: but these smaller ones they are only like two to
- 34:23Speaker 6: three at to four feet, But they're nice for maybe, uh,
- 34:27Speaker 6: you know, maybe a city dweller that doesn't have a
- 34:33Speaker 6: lot of space.
- 34:35Speaker 4: Uh.
- 34:36Speaker 6: And then I also recommended a couple of trees and
- 34:39Speaker 6: to not be as promoted as say perennials or scrubs,
- 34:45Speaker 6: so uh, you know, we're always we're in the business
- 34:49Speaker 6: of finding good street trees. And one street tree we
- 34:53Speaker 6: use a lot of that's incredibly adaptable. I suspect that
- 34:57Speaker 6: we grow almost in any state in the United States.
- 35:01Speaker 6: And it's called the Kentucky coffee tree, and it's it's
- 35:06Speaker 6: kind of a gangly tree. It takes several years before
- 35:08Speaker 6: it gets kind of nice form an architecture. But there's
- 35:12Speaker 6: a new one out called a skinny Latte's been named
- 35:17Speaker 6: for a Kentucky coffee tree, and it's more upright and stature. So,
- 35:24Speaker 6: you know, one of the problems with street tree sometimes
- 35:27Speaker 6: is they can be too broad spreading and then ultimately
- 35:30Speaker 6: maybe get boomed by the utility companies. This little bit
- 35:34Speaker 6: more upright and it's stature. And what's nice about the
- 35:37Speaker 6: Kentucky coffee trees is they can take good soil, wet soil,
- 35:44Speaker 6: they can take really cold conditions. It's a street tree
- 35:47Speaker 6: that's popular. Altraat in the Midwest seems to be thh indifferent,
- 35:51Speaker 6: so they can take an acidic or an alkaline soil.
- 35:54Speaker 6: So skinny Lattes kind of a new selection of the
- 36:00Speaker 6: of the Kentucky coffee trees.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Oh that's fun, what a fun name. I'm looking it
- 36:04Speaker 2: up right now and they are very tall upright trees,
- 36:08Speaker 2: and I'm think I've got a picture up and it's
- 36:11Speaker 2: got kind of a pink flower.
- 36:14Speaker 6: Yeah kind of white? Is white? Is? I think it's
- 36:16Speaker 6: only grown more for it it's durability, Okay, I would
- 36:21Speaker 6: say it's flowers. And also skinny latte is a is
- 36:25Speaker 6: a male. The females there a little problematic and that
- 36:29Speaker 6: they produce a big pod because they're in the in
- 36:33Speaker 6: the bean family.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know that is sometimes the trouble with
- 36:38Speaker 2: trees is that the mess that it could create after
- 36:43Speaker 2: after a bloom or after the seed cycle and stuff
- 36:47Speaker 2: like that. But so, so you're saying that these ones
- 36:49Speaker 2: are all male like when they're bread like this, what
- 36:54Speaker 2: what is the other tree here that they do that
- 36:57Speaker 2: is that InKo? John that they only breathe like the
- 37:00Speaker 2: males because.
- 37:01Speaker 5: They're male selections because of the fruit.
- 37:10Speaker 6: So yeah, if you get a female ginko, they can
- 37:15Speaker 6: be quite messy and smelly. Dicoso are one of the
- 37:21Speaker 6: most durable of all the street trees, even though they're
- 37:27Speaker 6: not native and maybe don't have as much ecological functions
- 37:31Speaker 6: as some of the other trees. It is such a
- 37:35Speaker 6: durable tree. It can really grow them almost anywhere I see.
- 37:39Speaker 6: I probably think Ginko's planted in more cities around the
- 37:43Speaker 6: world than any other trees.
- 37:49Speaker 5: You're talking about, this vestigiot form of the gymno clattys.
- 37:55Speaker 5: There's been a lot of breeding with ginkos and selections
- 37:58Speaker 5: on ginko trees.
- 37:59Speaker 6: Yeah, there's one called sin It's more right. There's some
- 38:05Speaker 6: little little dwarf ones, you know, for like a rock
- 38:08Speaker 6: garden as well, something more than a couple feet tall.
- 38:13Speaker 5: There's one that has h is it tube of form
- 38:16Speaker 5: us that has curled ye.
- 38:21Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's some that have variegated leaves for plant
- 38:28Speaker 6: of this one species that actually has quite a few
- 38:31Speaker 6: different variants.
- 38:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:33Speaker 5: I was shocked when I was at the Chelsea Flower
- 38:36Speaker 5: Show and saw a booth that just didko varieties.
- 38:39Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the whole booth. Figure it out. Like, hey, hey, Andrew,
- 38:43Speaker 2: we are going to have to take another break right now.
- 38:45Speaker 2: When we get back, we'll wrap up chatting with Andrew
- 38:48Speaker 2: Bunting and the Pennsylvania Hortic Culture Society. So yeah, yep,
- 38:53Speaker 2: stay with us.
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- 40:04Speaker 3: As we wrap things up with Andrew Tiger.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Andrew, I wanted to wrap up because you
- 40:09Speaker 2: are the vice president of Whole Culture and leads the
- 40:13Speaker 2: utilization planting and design to promote environmentally sound gardening there
- 40:18Speaker 2: at the PHS in California. Here, a lot of us
- 40:22Speaker 2: have moved to this kind of native plant gardening. You know,
- 40:26Speaker 2: I think mostly because of water. You know, we're always
- 40:29Speaker 2: trying to serve water here in California. And I'm wondering
- 40:32Speaker 2: back back there, do you guys try to you know,
- 40:36Speaker 2: focus on the native plant selection too, or just like
- 40:40Speaker 2: what you said here, uh, I mean, in your in
- 40:43Speaker 2: your discussion prior where it's just more of the right
- 40:45Speaker 2: plant for the right place, you know, back east, because
- 40:50Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you guys plant you know, like
- 40:53Speaker 2: you say, that large tree and it gets up into
- 40:55Speaker 2: the power lines, you know it's going to become more
- 40:58Speaker 2: problematic than if you planted native tree and it gets
- 41:00Speaker 2: into the power line. Do you guys focus on the natives?
- 41:04Speaker 2: There is my basic question.
- 41:06Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I would say yes, yes to some degree.
- 41:11Speaker 6: I would say, we don't exclusively promote native plants. I
- 41:17Speaker 6: would say for us, especially in the city, it means
- 41:20Speaker 6: the first and foremost be urban tough and resilience that
- 41:25Speaker 6: could be to be a native, to be a non native.
- 41:27Speaker 6: We do a want to promote plants that have ecological functions.
- 41:32Speaker 6: So those often are native plants for their plants that
- 41:37Speaker 6: support pollinators or support you know, food sources for native songbirds,
- 41:43Speaker 6: or whatever whatever the case might be. So I would say,
- 41:46Speaker 6: you know, a lot of lecturing and writing and interviews
- 41:50Speaker 6: and podcasts that I do, I do talk about native plants.
- 41:54Speaker 6: I have entire power point presentations on native plants. But
- 41:58Speaker 6: I don't only talk about data native plants. You know,
- 42:05Speaker 6: I think a home garden that has a lot of
- 42:08Speaker 6: natives and some non natives as well, can be a
- 42:13Speaker 6: place that supports good biodiversity. So, you know, we also
- 42:20Speaker 6: talk about a few years ago we created these kind
- 42:23Speaker 6: of gardening to the Greater Good principles and they're they're
- 42:27Speaker 6: pretty simple there. One is to celebrate gardening, love gardening,
- 42:32Speaker 6: choosing plants with intentions that choosing you know, pollinator plants
- 42:37Speaker 6: by local Maybe use tools that are electric to your
- 42:45Speaker 6: garden is part of the ecosystem. So again, maybe having
- 42:49Speaker 6: ecologically beneficial plants in your garden, use organic fertilizers versus synthetics, composts,
- 42:58Speaker 6: figure out ways to mitigate some water runoff on your property.
- 43:03Speaker 6: And then also, and this is kind of that spread
- 43:07Speaker 6: through all of HS, embrace the sharing mindsets. So that
- 43:11Speaker 6: might be sharing your knowledge, it might be getting involved
- 43:15Speaker 6: in volunteering, and it might be you know, producing a
- 43:18Speaker 6: lot of produce in your garden and then sharing it
- 43:21Speaker 6: with your neighbors or with a food kitchen or a
- 43:26Speaker 6: food bank, or maybe get involved in a community garden.
- 43:31Speaker 6: So those are four principles that underpin the work that
- 43:36Speaker 6: we do, and we try to in all the work
- 43:38Speaker 6: we do uplifts these principles of gardenings for the great
- 43:43Speaker 6: good yeah.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Really good information in like you said before, all this
- 43:49Speaker 2: information is actually shared online by hs online dot org,
- 43:55Speaker 2: where you can go to find all the videos, the tutorials,
- 43:58Speaker 2: where you guys are are doing talks, and how people
- 44:01Speaker 2: can get involved. So get a chance check out their
- 44:05Speaker 2: website and you know, get involved. Andrew, thank you very
- 44:08Speaker 2: much for joining us this morning. You have a great
- 44:10Speaker 2: rest of the weekend in a happy Eastern Yep.
- 44:13Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
- 44:14Speaker 2: All right, take care, all righty. You know, he was
- 44:18Speaker 2: talking about that last concept of sharing, and I was
- 44:22Speaker 2: just thinking, you know, he's talking about growing plants and
- 44:25Speaker 2: sharing crops, and I'm like thinking, or you could grow
- 44:29Speaker 2: thousands of roses and then begin to share them all
- 44:33Speaker 2: of the right. John has the most sharing garden ever.
- 44:40Speaker 5: Sharing plants would be at the top list of.
- 44:43Speaker 2: My shes exactly.
- 44:46Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, we've got an auction coming up too.
- 44:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 44:50Speaker 5: I'll have to let people know when all the plants
- 44:52Speaker 5: are posted. Right now, I think almost everyone is up there.
- 44:56Speaker 5: You can't bid yet, but if you go to see
- 45:00Speaker 5: e rs dot com you can see the plants that
- 45:04Speaker 5: are going to be offered and.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Start getting start saving your pennies.
- 45:08Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there'll be some really good deals.
- 45:10Speaker 2: There's also.
- 45:12Speaker 5: Some roses on there that this is that there may
- 45:16Speaker 5: be two of that rose in the country, and one
- 45:19Speaker 5: of them will be in the auction of course, the
- 45:23Speaker 5: other one will be at my house.
- 45:25Speaker 4: Now, those people that if the sneak preview want to
- 45:29Speaker 4: see what's happening they is there any way for them
- 45:32Speaker 4: to know that this particular rose might be what you're
- 45:35Speaker 4: talking about, Like, there's only two in the country. I'm gonna,
- 45:39Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm wanna been on this one.
- 45:40Speaker 5: You know, one of our members is posting things on Instagram,
- 45:46Speaker 5: so if you go to them, you would know. Yeah,
- 45:48Speaker 5: if you go to California Coastal Roads, you'll see that.
- 45:51Speaker 5: But also if you the link takes you to help
- 45:54Speaker 5: me find roses, if you're clicking on a rose variety,
- 45:58Speaker 5: and that will tell you a little bit. If you
- 46:00Speaker 5: go to gardens, when you click on that rose variety,
- 46:03Speaker 5: it'll show you how many gardens.
- 46:05Speaker 4: Okay, you'll actually in.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Yeah. So oh.
- 46:10Speaker 5: Also an easy way to tell if you're online is
- 46:13Speaker 5: look at the price.
- 46:15Speaker 4: Right, and then it's interesting.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Usually usually not always, but usually the higher the price
- 46:20Speaker 5: rare the rose.
- 46:21Speaker 3: And then when you're actually when we're involved in the
- 46:24Speaker 3: auction and you see like a lot of people bidding
- 46:26Speaker 3: on a certain rose and the price keeps going up
- 46:29Speaker 3: and up and up. They know something that maybe somebody
- 46:32Speaker 3: else doesn't know. Why adding on that road.
- 46:34Speaker 5: Now, this auction is online only, right, so people all
- 46:39Speaker 5: over the country can bid. We ship all over your country.
- 46:42Speaker 4: You can't talk. If you say anything, then you're just qualified.
- 46:46Speaker 5: Because it's online only.
- 46:48Speaker 4: Silent.
- 46:51Speaker 5: Oh, there's so many things running through my head right now.
- 46:59Speaker 2: I like to you.
- 47:01Speaker 4: I think let's see ronic has got a question.
- 47:06Speaker 2: On her magnolia.
- 47:07Speaker 5: Yes, she says, for the dwarf magnolia tiger, do the
- 47:10Speaker 5: roots go straight down or spread? There are no trees
- 47:14Speaker 5: that have roots that go straight down, and the reason
- 47:19Speaker 5: is that there's no oxygen down there, so trees can't
- 47:24Speaker 5: live if the roots only went straight down. Now, some
- 47:28Speaker 5: trees have a tap root to anchor the tree, and
- 47:33Speaker 5: that main tap root will go down, but they still
- 47:35Speaker 5: have the side But that.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Tap roots not necessarily bringing the nutrients right like the
- 47:40Speaker 4: other roots are not.
- 47:41Speaker 5: It's more for anchoring. It's the side roots that will
- 47:44Speaker 5: bring in the countries yeah, so on a dwarf magnolia.
- 47:48Speaker 5: I guess the question for Ronica might really want to
- 47:51Speaker 5: know is are the roots going to be is damaging
- 47:56Speaker 5: to walkways? Tiger is like maybe a regular size Southern magnolia,
- 48:03Speaker 5: and you know, would that be something like little you.
- 48:06Speaker 2: Know, you know, I kind of you know, it depends
- 48:10Speaker 2: on how they're watered in the surrounding area. People think that, oh,
- 48:15Speaker 2: you know, these root systems are just out there to
- 48:17Speaker 2: attack sidewalks and roads and pipes and sewer drains, and
- 48:22Speaker 2: you know, roots are doing what they're designed to do.
- 48:24Speaker 2: They're finding water and nutrients.
- 48:26Speaker 4: You know.
- 48:27Speaker 2: That's so if that means there's a leaky pipe or
- 48:30Speaker 2: a crack and a sidewalk where water falls into and
- 48:33Speaker 2: then stays after a rainfall or irrigation, yes, the root's
- 48:37Speaker 2: going to find it. It's going to expose that weakness.
- 48:39Speaker 4: And it's going to keep using it until it's dright.
- 48:41Speaker 2: Up exactly if it does.
- 48:43Speaker 5: But some trees have roots like bike, Yeah, I mean,
- 48:46Speaker 5: they're going to just tear up your sidewalk no matter what.
- 48:48Speaker 2: He's not exactly, they're very But what I'm getting at too,
- 48:53Speaker 2: is if you properly water your tree by putting a
- 48:56Speaker 2: water system, you know, at the drip line soaky it
- 49:00Speaker 2: then it doesn't give the roots the reason just to
- 49:04Speaker 2: go elsewhere, you know, go elsewhere, and you know it'll
- 49:08Speaker 2: it'll keep them in check. Also, using proper things like
- 49:11Speaker 2: root barriers, which are something as simple as like a
- 49:14Speaker 2: plastic barrier about twenty to twenty four inches down against
- 49:19Speaker 2: a sidewalker curb will prevent the roots from from from
- 49:23Speaker 2: crossing over because then they go they have to go
- 49:26Speaker 2: twenty four inches down before they can go over, which
- 49:29Speaker 2: will protect your your sidewalk, your curb, your maybe your
- 49:33Speaker 2: planter or or anything of that sort, you know. So
- 49:37Speaker 2: that's just good tree etiquette. But I think it really
- 49:41Speaker 2: just comes down to starting it with the watering. I mean,
- 49:44Speaker 2: the the worst watering you can do is just very
- 49:47Speaker 2: shallow watering because then the roots, you know, never really
- 49:51Speaker 2: go down and they're just always looking for water. And
- 49:55Speaker 2: so you got to watch out.
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- 50:00Speaker 3: America back after these messages.
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- 50:53Speaker 3: Speaking of facus for the FCUS plan, I wanted to
- 50:56Speaker 3: let you guys in on something. A couple of two
- 50:59Speaker 3: or three weeks ago, I mention and then I transplanted
- 51:01Speaker 3: a fycus the Dana had and it did all what
- 51:04Speaker 3: I thought with the necessary things. After about a week
- 51:07Speaker 3: or two, it's outside. It looked terrible. The leaves were yellow,
- 51:12Speaker 3: dropping its leaves and I'm thinking maybe transplant shock. It
- 51:16Speaker 3: wasn't happy, so I took it. I put it underneath
- 51:19Speaker 3: by the front door, which is covered. I gave it
- 51:21Speaker 3: some fertilizer from HB one oh one, and I'm waiting
- 51:25Speaker 3: to see more leaves drop. Only a couple of two
- 51:28Speaker 3: or three leaves might have dropped. It now has green leaves.
- 51:32Speaker 3: It's starting to look really really good.
- 51:35Speaker 4: It's happy.
- 51:36Speaker 3: I think it's happy where it is, and I think
- 51:37Speaker 3: the HB one on one and the fertilizer obviously is helping.
- 51:41Speaker 3: But would you agree that might have been transplant shock
- 51:43Speaker 3: for a FCUS. No, what do you think it could
- 51:46Speaker 3: have been?
- 51:47Speaker 5: It could have been, but more likely it's just you know,
- 51:51Speaker 5: it's the cuticle, right, We've talked about that so many
- 51:55Speaker 5: times that if you moved it from indoors st outdoors,
- 52:00Speaker 5: it would lose every leave, but all the new ones
- 52:03Speaker 5: that came out would be.
- 52:04Speaker 4: But it has been outdoors the whole time. I just transplanted.
- 52:08Speaker 5: Oh if that yeah, so it was out it was
- 52:11Speaker 5: How could it be shocked? What did you do take
- 52:13Speaker 5: separate the roots or take anything away from the roots.
- 52:16Speaker 3: I shook it vigorously and yelled at it. Well, well, no,
- 52:20Speaker 3: see I don't I don't know because it had always
- 52:22Speaker 3: been outside. I just I put it in a bigger pot.
- 52:25Speaker 3: That shouldn't it shouldn't have. But it looked terrible, and
- 52:27Speaker 3: now now it's looking good. I moved it under I'm
- 52:29Speaker 3: not going to move it now because it's got new leaves,
- 52:32Speaker 3: green leaves. And if you like where it is, just
- 52:35Speaker 3: leave it's not if I like it, if it's if
- 52:37Speaker 3: the is like because I liked it.
- 52:39Speaker 5: World accommodating the plants.
- 52:42Speaker 3: So anyway, that's my flactive story. But what they are
- 52:45Speaker 3: known to be a little temperamental.
- 52:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 52:48Speaker 4: Bike is to a degree, I don't think so oh
- 52:51Speaker 4: my experience.
- 52:52Speaker 5: If just understanding their needs. If you everybody's a little tempered,
- 52:56Speaker 5: say the wrong thing.
- 52:57Speaker 4: It just loses about ten or fifteen leaves.
- 53:00Speaker 5: You know when we were I think it was Ronica.
- 53:03Speaker 5: We were answering her question on the magnolia's or whoever
- 53:08Speaker 5: it was. But also those are southern magnolias, evergreen magnolias.
- 53:15Speaker 5: I don't think you have the same problem with deciduous
- 53:18Speaker 5: mag You know, they've got uh more fibrous roots systems.
- 53:22Speaker 2: And they tend to be more compact too, you know
- 53:26Speaker 2: the tree.
- 53:26Speaker 5: Yeah, and the trees are smaller the New Zealand hybrids.
- 53:30Speaker 5: The trees are a little bit bigger. Lets the gophers.
- 53:34Speaker 5: The one that they gopher eight was feeling.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Do you know that one?
- 53:39Speaker 4: I feel you name your golphers?
- 53:41Speaker 2: No, no, this is the tree. Man. I remember when
- 53:45Speaker 2: you got those and you're so excited and they were expensive.
- 53:49Speaker 2: That name, that name? What did it look like? I
- 53:52Speaker 2: can't remember.
- 53:53Speaker 5: It was like a dark pink yes, a ruby flower?
- 53:58Speaker 2: Remember, yes? Oh man, Bummer, I know so sad.
- 54:04Speaker 5: Right now, I have it sitting in water and and
- 54:08Speaker 5: I'm going to see if I can maybe replant it
- 54:11Speaker 5: like your roses.
- 54:12Speaker 2: Yea sometimes, yeah, it'll be interesting to see if it
- 54:15Speaker 2: can come back. I don't they're they're not as tough
- 54:19Speaker 2: as roses like that.
- 54:20Speaker 5: No, I know, out of the eight roses that go
- 54:24Speaker 5: for eight, I got six, I saved six two two
- 54:29Speaker 5: just are totally dead. But one of them was extremely rare,
- 54:34Speaker 5: so I'm really glad I was able to save it.
- 54:36Speaker 2: Good.
- 54:38Speaker 4: Just stop.
- 54:41Speaker 2: Endless battle, yeah something. I mean, that's got to be
- 54:47Speaker 2: so challenging, so frustrating to deal with that. I mean
- 54:51Speaker 2: every day there's right, yeah, and you know, I mean
- 54:55Speaker 2: we all have our own battles. I don't not trying to,
- 55:00Speaker 2: but in my landscape, I don't have too much. But
- 55:02Speaker 2: I mean people live where they have deer, you know,
- 55:06Speaker 2: they have all kinds of creatures and critters that will
- 55:08Speaker 2: just gophers on your property or No, I don't have
- 55:11Speaker 2: any goers. I've got I've got squirrels. I've got rabbits.
- 55:15Speaker 2: You have ground squirrel. I don't know. A canyon a
- 55:19Speaker 2: canyon like right behind.
- 55:20Speaker 3: Behind you, right, but that's not probably good good land
- 55:25Speaker 3: for gophers to be digging. It's probably hard, right.
- 55:27Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I used to have a
- 55:31Speaker 2: real big problem with rabbits, and I still have a
- 55:35Speaker 2: pretty good problem with rabbits. But my dogs, I think
- 55:38Speaker 2: are pretty on top of keeping them out of the yard,
- 55:40Speaker 2: so it's not as bad as it used to be.
- 55:44Speaker 2: But you know, the I can't you know. We we
- 55:49Speaker 2: were back in England at that one garden and this
- 55:52Speaker 2: woman had to fully enclose her her vegetable garden into
- 55:58Speaker 2: like a covered thing because of the Remember, you know,
- 56:01Speaker 2: the birds would just come in there and just pick
- 56:03Speaker 2: everything to death. And she's like, this is the only
- 56:07Speaker 2: way I can have plants was basically growing in an atrium,
- 56:10Speaker 2: you know. And this was and this was just a
- 56:12Speaker 2: this was just a backyard. This wasn't this wasn't like, oh,
- 56:15Speaker 2: some botanical garden. This wasn't oh like some park, you
- 56:19Speaker 2: know and whatever. This was just in order for me
- 56:22Speaker 2: to have a vegetable garden, I have to plant in
- 56:24Speaker 2: an atrium. So challenge.
- 56:28Speaker 5: Veronica elaborated on the area she was thinking of putting
- 56:31Speaker 5: a small tree. She said, it's about four foot away
- 56:34Speaker 5: from a brick wall and she didn't want to damage
- 56:37Speaker 5: the walls. She was thinking a small flowering tree. So
- 56:40Speaker 5: I think, I all, you would be fine, be spectacular.
- 56:44Speaker 5: What about maybe even red butts? Like what about a
- 56:46Speaker 5: weeping red butt?
- 56:47Speaker 2: That'd be absolutely gorgeous.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Yeah, what are they called something found?
- 56:51Speaker 2: I don't remember.
- 56:52Speaker 4: Ruby. Fine.
- 56:53Speaker 2: You know it's funny, is I just planted two of
- 56:55Speaker 2: those this weekend. That house of Myriata I was talking about.
- 56:58Speaker 2: They planted two weeping one and then one just a
- 57:02Speaker 2: regular force pans.
- 57:04Speaker 4: Hey, next time you're there, check out the roses. They've
- 57:06Speaker 4: got beautiful roses on that problem.
- 57:09Speaker 2: They're doing something right.
- 57:10Speaker 4: They they were a different.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Everyone was different massive bushes. I mean, I hate to
- 57:17Speaker 2: say it, but they had to be using like systemic
- 57:21Speaker 2: something because these plants didn't look real. They looks big.
- 57:25Speaker 2: They do.
- 57:26Speaker 5: Since you mentioned that, Yeah, we were talking. I was
- 57:30Speaker 5: mentioning how I never spray right anything. Actually, but I
- 57:36Speaker 5: said that I had fifteen hundred roses and no ay
- 57:39Speaker 5: fits anywhere on my property. But I think because I've
- 57:43Speaker 5: been fertilizing and new growth is coming out. I had
- 57:48Speaker 5: for me what was an explosion of aphids two weeks ago,
- 57:52Speaker 5: and that meant that there was maybe a dozen roses
- 57:55Speaker 5: and had aphits, but they were pretty thick where they
- 57:58Speaker 5: were oh and and almost to the point where I
- 58:01Speaker 5: thought you should go through and rub them off or Yeah.
- 58:04Speaker 2: The little new growth is as drooping over from the way.
- 58:08Speaker 2: We're mainly on the flower buds.
- 58:10Speaker 5: Oh okay, So anyway, yesterday was out there looking at them,
- 58:14Speaker 5: and while there were still a fit's around, not as
- 58:18Speaker 5: thick though, and I saw a lot of ladybug large
- 58:23Speaker 5: So I think everything's going to be back in control.
- 58:26Speaker 5: And then you started thinking, you know, you're really not
- 58:29Speaker 5: going to have beneficial insects in your yard unless there's
- 58:32Speaker 5: something for me.
- 58:33Speaker 2: Right, that's the truth, right, that's what they tell you.
- 58:35Speaker 2: They tell people, you know, when they buy ladybugs. So
- 58:38Speaker 2: number one you hit on a great point that people
- 58:40Speaker 2: need to know is that the ladybug larvae, which are
- 58:44Speaker 2: almost like a red and black little crawling bug.
- 58:48Speaker 5: It looks like something that you add, Yeah, it.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Looks like something you want to get rid of it,
- 58:52Speaker 2: are more voracious eaters a lot more than the actual
- 58:57Speaker 2: lady adult lady bug. So those are even more beneficial
- 59:02Speaker 2: to have in your landscape.
- 59:04Speaker 4: As long as you have something for them to eat
- 59:06Speaker 4: and a reason to be there.
- 59:07Speaker 2: But what is I say it was a lot of people.
- 59:09Speaker 5: Are teenagers gonna eat a lot more than an adult.
- 59:12Speaker 5: We're gonna an adult.
- 59:14Speaker 3: We gotta take a break, Okay, well, here more segments.
- 59:16Speaker 3: Our next segments, one of our longer segments. Plenty of
- 59:19Speaker 3: time for Facebook Live questions, comments back after these messages.
- 59:22Speaker 3: This is Darting America Biz talk Radio, Facebook Lives. All right,
- 59:58Speaker 3: we continue.
- 59:59Speaker 2: This is No.
- 59:59Speaker 3: One of our longer segments. Take advantage ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: boys and girls. Lady bugs. That's how we left our
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: last segment.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just the correct way because it's real popular.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: Now you go into the garden center, you see them
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: for able to buy, which, by the way, still no
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: deckless nails, you need those, I know. But so the
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: correct way to release them, I'll tell you the correct way,
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: and it's not the rule, but it is the most
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: probable way to keep them in your yard is number
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: one is that, like John said, you have to have
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: a problem. You have to have the you have to
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: have aphis. You have to have something for them to eat.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: You can't just release the lady else elsewhere they will
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: they will fly away. They got to go eat somewhere, right,
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: So you're.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: Thinking of marketing, uh, lady bugs the way they do
- 1:00:47Speaker 5: with the package of ash.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Why not to get to keep the same time. But no,
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: so they you have to have bugs for them to eat,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: you know. Number one, So don't just buy a lady
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: bug and just be like, oh, I'm going to release
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: them in my yard if you don't have a problem.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: Number two is they tell you also that they want
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: the area to be kind of damp because again, food, water,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: They don't want them to have to travel too far.
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: So it's nice if you water irrigate the area before
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: you release too, just so there's that. And they don't
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: need a fountain, and they just need dew some like
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: a heavy mist is all they really need.
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: You don't want to release them, no, And then the.
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: Last thing too is that if you release them in
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: the evening, okay, at night time where it's one of
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: those things, hopefully they'll wake up in the morning, they'll
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: find water, they'll find food, and then they just stay.
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: Yeah you know, but at least them in the day,
- 1:01:42Speaker 5: they're just gonna take off.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: They're just gonna take off right away.
- 1:01:45Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so cooped up, let's leave.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: So they gotta have food, they gotta have water. And
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: if you release them at night, the goal is is
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: that when they wake up in the morning they have everything. Yeah,
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: you know, they're just they just hang.
- 1:02:00Speaker 4: Out waking up, yawning, looking around for something to eat.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
- 1:02:06Speaker 5: Tanya and San Jose says that she last fall she
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: watched a praying manas like two egg cases. Wow, and
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: she wants to know when are the little ones gonna
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: come out? Keeps checking every day. So, well, you know,
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: we're further south, so we're what maybe say, two to
- 1:02:25Speaker 5: three weeks ahead of San Jose. Yeah, and I just
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: saw some baby praying man. Yeah, but so I would
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: say for for Tanya, maybe two to three weeks away,
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: depending on the weather.
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: Right. But I will also say the hard thing about
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Praymanti's egg casings is that you have to check it
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: every day, meaning meaning you there's nothing.
- 1:02:47Speaker 5: Yeah, if you missed one day, they're out and they're gone.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: In the egg casing looks the same.
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: It's not like this change.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like not like a bird egg where
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: it's like, oh it cracked open and something went away.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: This is this foam style egg casing that is a
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: premantis egg. It doesn't change when the preme mantis release.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: So therefore, if you don't go out there every day
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: and check, you'll never really see the little babies. But
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: when they when you do see it, I mean there's hundreds,
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: if not thousands of these little prim ants that are
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: just all over the place. It's it's spectacular and they
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: always have something well and that and that is something
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: too that people make the mistake with the buying a
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: prime mants. They keep them in that little uh, you know,
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: soup cup that they buy them in after they well,
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: they keep them in there because they want to see
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: them hat. But if you leave them in there for
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: a day or two, then like John said, they just
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: eat each other and next thing you know, there's like
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: four left. Yeah exactly, the fittest survived well.
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: And if she didn't mention that, Tanya says she does
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: check every day.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Good yeah, because you know, but the cool thing about praimantis,
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: what I heard too, is that they're very territorial. So
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: like once they kind of find their areas of their garden,
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: I hear, you can kind of go back to that
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: area and you can find the same primantis in that
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: in that area pretty easily, which is kind of I
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: like that idea of having a pet.
- 1:04:21Speaker 5: Praming Roonic in Spring Valley says that last week tiger.
- 1:04:26Speaker 5: You mentioned a fertil on product that could help for
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: taking care of aphis and milton.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: I aphids and mildew, which I think is we.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: Talked about spring in the evening. I think was that
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: triple action.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: I think triple action. I really like this Spinosa's soap
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: and it doesn't really it's not really for mildew, but
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: it just is an an all all purpose thing. But
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: we were also talking about the rose and flour. Remember
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: the bay Or product.
- 1:04:58Speaker 5: That's like, yeah, side that you talked about, you did
- 1:05:03Speaker 5: mention a specific fertile and product.
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: I think it was triple action.
- 1:05:09Speaker 5: I don't know some reason. I'm thinking of a number
- 1:05:12Speaker 5: like five.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Oh, well, there's the fungicide five we mentioned also, Oh
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: that's just for but that's just for the fungal issues.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: That's like that. We were talking about it, like the
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: serenade serenade replacement.
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: Okay, that's what I read.
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: I think triple action. And did you did you mention
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: spring in the evening? Talking with that makes sense?
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, triple action is also fungicide and insecticide. Yes,
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: so I did mention the triple action problem.
- 1:05:42Speaker 6: Uh.
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: Leonor in Canyon Country says that she transplanted a tree
- 1:05:49Speaker 5: to the ground about two months ago, and it looks happy,
- 1:05:53Speaker 5: it's full of flowers, but she gets some branches that
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: dry so that that dry out, and that's like three
- 1:06:01Speaker 5: or four.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Sparadic through the plant. A tree. She just didn't say it,
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: she said tree, just said a tree, A tree.
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: Yeah, you know sometimes that happens just uh, you know,
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: as the trees adjusting to its its a new location
- 1:06:19Speaker 5: and growing area. Some trees self prune themselves, right, The
- 1:06:24Speaker 5: every branch that comes out in a tree doesn't stay
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: there forever. Yeah, you know, you will lose a few
- 1:06:29Speaker 5: as the tree tries to develop a scaffold and a
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: skeleton that it's gonna keeps its major structure, parts of
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: its major structure.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: And then the other thing too is people don't realize
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: like each each branch, each part of the tree is
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: also tied to a part of the actual roots, you know,
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: so as a lime tree. So if you damage a
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: part of a root system when transplanting or something, you
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: don't the whole tree might be fine, but that one
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: branch that you like cut off that root to plant
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: it or that is affected by it now and and
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you know, John comes from a
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: family of arborous where he's probably seen that where it's like,
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: you know, people will try to be like, oh, can
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: you just cut this one root for me, right, like
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: because it's like a sidewalk or something.
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: That sounds like a central nervous system.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're like, yeah, it can cut that, but
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: you might see a whole branch just go away night.
- 1:07:26Speaker 5: If the wood comes from the other direction. Might over
- 1:07:31Speaker 5: a lot of people forget that besides feeding a tree,
- 1:07:36Speaker 5: A huge function of roots, a root system is stay
- 1:07:38Speaker 5: anchor the tree.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: So yeah, so I mean I think, like what you said, John,
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: it's probably just a little bit transplant shock or you're
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: saying like scaffolding like structure. But if but if she
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: did when planting it, like take it out of a
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: pot and maybe you know, broke some roots that might
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: have caused it as well.
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: So I would just it's not going to hurt on
- 1:08:01Speaker 5: a lime tree to just cut those branches stuff.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: And I told you about my lime tree that I
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: tried to kill multiple times in my yard and it's flourishing,
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: so they're very hardy.
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: You take it out, that'll kill it. If I was
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: take it out, just remove it.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: I tried.
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: You can't.
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: You can't kill it. Lime trees are really why don't
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: you have.
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: A lime tree killing party, bring people over with you know,
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: hatchets and poison pitchforks, and yeah, dance a little ceremony
- 1:08:32Speaker 4: around it.
- 1:08:33Speaker 5: Isn't there a round up product made for lime tree
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: just right?
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: Because nothing else will kill it? Well that that is
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: a funny thing. You know. People think, you know, these herbicides,
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: you know, like round up kill everything.
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: They don't.
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: Well they don't. And you know, and then you got nutgrass,
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: which you could pour like bleach and diesel fuel and
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: everything on it. You have to have that specific product
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: for nuts grass killer, and the right round up kills nutgrass. What, Yeah,
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: it controls it, really, Yeah, the old round up for
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: the new round Yeah, the old rounded.
- 1:09:16Speaker 5: The old round up dinner mark, even at the heavier delution.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Even at Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure undeluded, like just
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: not that I'm questioning you, but it doesn't know and
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: you do and you know what though, I'm speaking from experience.
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: Really yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've ever had
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: much of a problem with nut grass.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: No, You're lucky. I told you it's worse than getting
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: nutgrass in a flower bed.
- 1:09:45Speaker 5: I had a customer come into when I was working
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: in the garden centers. A customer come in and brought
- 1:09:52Speaker 5: in some nutgrass and he wanted to know what to
- 1:09:54Speaker 5: do to control it. And he says, what is this
- 1:09:56Speaker 5: and how do I get rid of it? Good move,
- 1:09:58Speaker 5: I said, and I go, well, it's nut grass and
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: it's hard to control.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: He goes, well, what is it? That's nut grass?
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: And I said that like three times and finally screams
- 1:10:11Speaker 5: at me.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: I know it's not grass.
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: What is it?
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: Hey, we're going to take a break on that note. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:10:18Speaker 4: it's driving me nuts, That's what it is. Okay, Final
- 1:10:21Speaker 4: SEGMA coming up next. Don Gardiner, alright, this is one
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: of the quarter seconds.
- 1:11:05Speaker 6: This is.
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: Final Final, Secondary final countdown.
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: If did you want to mention next week, guest, we
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: are going to be going full steam May into June.
- 1:11:17Speaker 3: So we're going to take a little break next week,
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: take the week off and prepare because then it's non stop.
- 1:11:22Speaker 4: You American group have to regroup.
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: Getting me I can understand.
- 1:11:27Speaker 4: We still we'll still have our meetings.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw the impact of our pre production meetings.
- 1:11:32Speaker 4: Got us off to a fantastic start.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: Why not really prepared?
- 1:11:38Speaker 4: Yes, so there we go.
- 1:11:40Speaker 5: Uh. Continuing with our talk from last segment, Carlo says
- 1:11:45Speaker 5: that she's got her had to uh move her Mandarin
- 1:11:50Speaker 5: out of the ground and into its spot, okay, and
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: she had to cut some of the big roots. So
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: again to compensate for the root cutting, Carla also cut
- 1:12:01Speaker 5: out some of the branch. Yep, you know, one of
- 1:12:04Speaker 5: the things I'm not sure of, Tiger, and maybe you
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: know better. I always cut things back if I transplant them,
- 1:12:13Speaker 5: you know, so there's less room for transpiration, so the
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: tree's not going to dry out. But I always used
- 1:12:20Speaker 5: to cut the tops of the trees back and.
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: And I think that the.
- 1:12:29Speaker 5: The tips of the trees are where the oxens that
- 1:12:31Speaker 5: promote root growth are. So if you cut off all
- 1:12:35Speaker 5: those is going to take a while for the tree
- 1:12:38Speaker 5: to start producing its rooting hormone.
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, that is very true. Where it's
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: that balance of what you cut out and when you leave,
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: because there are very important parts of the tree that
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: actually you know, need to be there to produce you know,
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: all the energy and growth and absorb light and things
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: like that. And so usually what I've been told to
- 1:13:00Speaker 2: do is kind of like your classic pruning techniques. So
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: number one, remove any dead growth or crossing branches when
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: you do it, because those should just go anyways, no
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: matter what you do. And then not remove the top growth,
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: but remove some of the older like inner growth, because
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: also sometimes that's not doing the work, like you know
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: mentioned John for the plant anymore. It's just older there
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: and it's not doing the it's not doing the brunt
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: of the work for the tree. You know, that new
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: growth that is actually doing the brunt of the work.
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: I mean they said something like, you know, when you
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: have like an old leaf on a tree, it might
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: only be doing ten to fifteen percent of you know,
- 1:13:41Speaker 2: the whole transparration Floro filled all of that kind of
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: stuff for the tree, where the new growth is doing
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: seventy five percent of the actual work. So you want
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: to leave that because that's where the tree is now
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: getting it, you know, from it's energy, it's it's air
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: and all of that. So yeah, I don't I would
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: just recommend doing the old growth and inner growth when
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: you're doing that bruning back, you know, and then if
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: you have to remove roots when transplanting or putting into
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: a pot. The HB one oh one is super important.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: I think you know. Also any kind of good like
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: little fertilizer, when you're doing that, it's just gonna help
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: because it just helps minimize some of that shock.
- 1:14:29Speaker 5: That B one does nothing. So if you're putting in
- 1:14:35Speaker 5: B one, don't think you're doing anything.
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: Just prior to letting people know we're not going to
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: be here next week, there was a post from Tanyam
- 1:14:44Speaker 5: Santa saying she said, I may miss the show next week.
- 1:14:48Speaker 5: She's I'm going to be at the Cactus and Succulent
- 1:14:50Speaker 5: Society of America's convention in San DIEGOAH, and she's hoping
- 1:14:56Speaker 5: to visit Mission Hill's nursery. Well, she's down there.
- 1:14:59Speaker 2: We hope if you do and enjoy your visit.
- 1:15:02Speaker 5: Yeah, let Tiger know what time he'll buy you breakfast.
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, shoot me a message on you meet up.
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: Meet and greet at Mission Hills Nursery.
- 1:15:13Speaker 5: Carlo uh is supporting you, Tiger, all right, he said,
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: not grass, nothing kills. She has a whole section of
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: her yard. They just mow it like grass.
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:15:25Speaker 5: It's not a bad line actually, but it's impossible to
- 1:15:28Speaker 5: keep reading.
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: And like I say, like the worst situation for it
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: is in a pernial or like a flower bed because
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: you can't get it and get in there and you
- 1:15:37Speaker 2: can't get in there. Yeah, in a lawn, it's actually
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: not bad, like you just mow it.
- 1:15:43Speaker 5: Like she doesn't grow faster than the lawn.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: It grows way faster. But I mean, you know it's
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: just green. It's great, a lighter green.
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it has been studies done. Like first
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: of all, why does it grow so fast? And why
- 1:16:00Speaker 3: is it so tenacious? You can't get rid of it?
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: What is it about?
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: Nodules? What's that? Nodules?
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: Nodules nuts, it's all about called.
- 1:16:08Speaker 5: Nut grass because there's these little tiny nutty nodules in
- 1:16:13Speaker 5: the soil and if you you pull it, go to
- 1:16:17Speaker 5: pull it up, those break off and start new plants.
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: And the foliage is really glossy green, very strappy, and
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: so it's just a hearty, hardy plant.
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: Well, what about the old product that was on the
- 1:16:35Speaker 5: market called nut grass Nihilator that works?
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: It works, Yeah, nut a product, yep, they do. What's
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: there called nut grass killer grass killer. Yeah, there's there's
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: sedge hammer, nutgrass nihilator sedge hammer.
- 1:16:53Speaker 4: That's a good thing, shammer.
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the nut grass. I think it's called
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: nut grass killer, nut grass roll or from fertilo, but
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: they're all the same chemical. I can't remember what what
- 1:17:05Speaker 2: it is, but it's proven. The nice thing about it
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: is a lot of those products for nut grass they
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: only kill nutgrass.
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: My next question was if you do have it in
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: your your plants and your flower beds, you can spray
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: everything and it would just kill the net grass.
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them. A lot of them do so,
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: which is which does make it nice in that way
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: that it takes a very specific chemical to kill it.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: So you you know, I know for lawns, they have
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: a lot of products that kill the nutgrass.
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: Okay, we have one minute, one minute in counting.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: Oh gee, well I just quickly Rickett said, wanted to
- 1:17:40Speaker 5: know if we have any of the native oak trees
- 1:17:44Speaker 5: down here that he used to have when he was
- 1:17:46Speaker 5: in the San Gabriel Valley.
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: What do we have coast live oak?
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: Yeah, not as many trees up in that area.
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think we have nearly
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: as many. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: Oh, guys, I guess that's it now once again. Because
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: Tanya is not going to be at home next weekend.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: She's coming to San Diego. We're going to take the
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: day off just for her, but no, seriously. Then we're
- 1:18:10Speaker 3: back with a marathon just about every weekend May into June.
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: Lots of guests lined up, so it'll be kind of
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: a prelude to summer exactly.
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: That's what we'll call it.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: May is our month looked at summer.
- 1:18:22Speaker 5: Sounds like a composition, isn't it musical composition?
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: Hey, for the entire crew, John Beg, Nasco, Tiger Pala Fox,
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: I'm Brian Maine. Thank you to Stephanie Bibs Talk Radio.
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Happy Easter, have a
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: good week, and we'll do it again in two weeks
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: right here on Garden America.