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DS Game 5 previews, Phillies-Dodgers chaos, Divish joins from Seattle · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Well, what a postseason, What a postseason?
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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everyone. We know two teams. We still have
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Speaker 2: two teams to figure out for Championship Series spots. Bron
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Speaker 2: Kratz KP. We're gonna flip up a postseason bracket too,
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Speaker 2: and we're also going to remind everyone while we show
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Speaker 2: it to you that postgame shows are where it's at.
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Speaker 1: We're running many of them on our YouTube channel.
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Speaker 2: We did one after the Phillies and Dodgers last night,
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Speaker 2: Still super relevant, getting instant reactions from people like Eric
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Speaker 2: Kratz after that Phillies game, even just the first minute
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Speaker 2: is worth watching to go back to you after our show.
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Speaker 2: But we'll do another one on Sunday night for the Alcs.
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Speaker 2: That'll be the Blue Jays taking on I don't know
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Speaker 2: Tigers or the Mariners. So just want to let everyone
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Speaker 2: know there'll be a lot of that for the Championship
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Speaker 2: Series and then of course for the World Series. You'll
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Speaker 2: have a mix of us giving you instant reaction after games. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let us get KP's thoughts on that insane ending to
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Speaker 2: the NLDS.
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Speaker 1: So let's charge the mounds.
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Speaker 3: Charge about.
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Speaker 4: KP.
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Speaker 2: We did thirty five minutes on what happened between the
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Speaker 2: Phillies and the Dodgers. Your instant reaction when you saw
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Speaker 2: what happened to Oryan kirkering on the mound that led
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Speaker 2: to the Dodgers walking off the Phillies and moving on
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Speaker 2: to the NLCS.
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Speaker 5: My short answer is sadness. I feel for the player.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you just, especially in a place like Philly,
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Speaker 5: that can be a little bit tough on an individual player.
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Speaker 5: You hate to see two really good teams. You hate
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Speaker 5: to see that game in that way because they put
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Speaker 5: the right guy in the position to get the out.
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Speaker 5: You know, the game just sped up on him a
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Speaker 5: little bit. You know, he did everything he was supposed
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Speaker 5: to do. He bobbled the ball, he panted a little bit,
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Speaker 5: his internal clocks sped up a little bit. I mean,
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Speaker 5: the right place to go to first base, you know,
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Speaker 5: after rewatching it, he would have had to make a
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Speaker 5: good play to first base, but at least it would
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Speaker 5: have been the correct play.
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Speaker 2: Let's choose some more info here. First of all, and
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Speaker 2: this one's gonna go right back to KP. The Dodgers
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Speaker 2: are the second team in history in the postseason the
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Speaker 2: clinch a playoff series on a walk off error. There
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Speaker 2: was one other time period nine years ago today, Rubenettodor's
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Speaker 2: Aaron throw to first on an attempt to double play
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Speaker 2: allowed Josh Donaldon to score and the Toronto Blue Jays
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Speaker 2: swept the Texas Rangers in the alds op the stats
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Speaker 2: hooking us up with that one KP.
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Speaker 1: You were there what happened?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: I was there for I mean obviously a much different situation.
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Speaker 5: I mean, first and foremost we were up to nothing,
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Speaker 5: so it didn't feel like an elimination game for us,
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Speaker 5: you know, like it was just a different we were
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Speaker 5: cruising in the series. But also the double play element
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Speaker 5: of it. You know, typically when you throw a ball
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Speaker 5: on a double play, it's not deemed an air. The
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Speaker 5: only difference is Josh Donaldson was at second base going
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Speaker 5: to third when he saw the mist throw. He ran home.
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Speaker 5: You know, I remember it like yesterday, the head first
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Speaker 5: slide coming out of the dugout, being super super excited
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Speaker 5: that we just went on and we were going to
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Speaker 5: our second straight ALCS.
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Speaker 2: One of our teammates says he has nightmares about that
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Speaker 2: exact scenario that played out for Kirkering in Game four.
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Speaker 2: Trevor May said that play is my nightmare, Kratz, you
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Speaker 2: got one sleep on it. Any aftermath thoughts here.
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Speaker 3: My nightmare is I have different color socks on and
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Speaker 3: I don't make it out to the game in time.
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Speaker 3: But that's a different nightmare. I have no other thoughts
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Speaker 3: on it. I even went back to the play that
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Speaker 3: I thought of that I made in the regular season
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Speaker 3: about or the play that I didn't make that cost
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Speaker 3: us a game, and like they're still residual. Maybe sometime
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Speaker 3: I'll tell the story, but there's still residual thoughts about it,
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Speaker 3: And so to have it be in this situation that
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Speaker 3: Oryan Kirkring had it in. It was a mistake. People
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Speaker 3: make mistakes every day. It will stay with him for
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Speaker 3: the rest of his life. My hope is that it
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Speaker 3: doesn't define him, and I think the people around him.
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Speaker 3: You already saw the sympathy support from his teammates, the
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Speaker 3: people that matter most to him, And now it's his
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Speaker 3: job to say it's not going to define me, because
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Speaker 3: if it defines him, he can go down a bad
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Speaker 3: rabbit hole.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, an old transparency. Playing in the playoffs, I was
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Speaker 5: always a little bit more concerned about this being the
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Speaker 5: end result of me being in the field is making
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Speaker 5: that mistake. I almost didn't want to make a mistake
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Speaker 5: more than I actually want to do something great, just
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Speaker 5: because you know, fans are so passionate and much like
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Speaker 5: Kratzy was saying, hopefully this isn't a moment in time
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Speaker 5: that defines him. It's something that you know, he has
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Speaker 5: an opportunity next year to be in a similar situation
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Speaker 5: and be on the other end of it and be
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Speaker 5: remembered for something great.
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Speaker 6: See.
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Speaker 3: I never thought of it as oh man, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: make a mistake, and I'm glad that I wasn't like
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Speaker 3: smart like UKP, where you were like, okay, I'm thinking
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Speaker 3: through all the scenarios. I think my downfall in playoffs
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Speaker 3: was this is the moment I am going to do
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Speaker 3: something big oop, whoops, slider and a dirt or this
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Speaker 3: is huge, I'm gonna make this throat a secon Ooh.
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Speaker 3: I threw it into center field. Like I was always
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Speaker 3: thinking about the great play and I didn't play. I
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Speaker 3: was fortunate I didn't play with the fear of it
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Speaker 3: in mind. I just played with like maybe too much
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Speaker 3: reckless abandonment.
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Speaker 5: I think that's a great way to play, though, I
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Speaker 5: mean the moment gets big in the playoffs and the
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Speaker 5: people that are able to just kind of either slow
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Speaker 5: the game down or almost treat it like a regular
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Speaker 5: season game. I don't think there's a wrong answer. I
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Speaker 5: just I just as I was in the playoffs a
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Speaker 5: little bit longer, I didn't have that kind of thought.
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Speaker 5: But I remember my initial postseason experience. I would be
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Speaker 5: on center field and I still wanted the ball to
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Speaker 5: be hit to me, but there was just this extra
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Speaker 5: layer of focus, and I was like, don't be the
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Speaker 5: reason this team loses the game.
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Speaker 2: So one other component here. The Dodgers tied the game
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Speaker 2: thanks to or at least partially thanks to Alex Call
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Speaker 2: right he walked, and Kratz pointed out how it was
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Speaker 2: a missed call, and there are many. Every single game
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Speaker 2: has miss calls. This wouldn't seem unique to me. Kratz
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Speaker 2: in that the umpire actually apologized to Christopher Sanchez is
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Speaker 2: that normal? So here's the tweet from Lachland March. Christopher
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Speaker 2: Sanchez said the umpire apologized to him for missing the
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Speaker 2: two to two pitch to Alex Call in the seventh,
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Speaker 2: which should have been a strikeout became a walk, and
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Speaker 2: that runner went on to score the tying run.
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Speaker 6: Yes they do.
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Speaker 3: I mean you can see on the screen number five
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Speaker 3: is half in the box, half out of the box.
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Speaker 3: They do apologize. Umpires do apologize. JT was flummixed when
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Speaker 3: he didn't call it, like he went to like throw
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Speaker 3: it around. Oh and then he like turned around, which
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Speaker 3: is kind of a no no. But for the umpire
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Speaker 3: to say that to me, that gives players it just it.
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Speaker 3: It calms the players down because they're like, Okay, I
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Speaker 3: get it, you missed it. Maybe today it infuriates them
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Speaker 3: a little bit more. But in the moment, look, man, like,
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Speaker 3: we're humans. We're not watching we're not watching a video game.
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Speaker 3: We're not watching robots. And when it's humans and you
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Speaker 3: have the human element in there, I'm not saying I'm
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Speaker 3: against ABS challenge system because I'm all for it. The
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Speaker 3: human element adds some intrigue to it and adds that
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Speaker 3: like level of angst or excitement depending on which side
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Speaker 3: of the call you're.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, they're human beings, and
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Speaker 5: I think that's where the ABS we should be in
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Speaker 5: favor of it because these umpires do care. I think
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Speaker 5: the human element of it is what makes the game great.
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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if you ask
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Speaker 5: that umpire, if they had the ability to challenge and
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Speaker 5: he got the call wrong and they reversed it, he
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Speaker 5: would be sleeping a little bit better at night. Ultimately,
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Speaker 5: these guys want to get the call right. And my
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Speaker 5: other point was on my way to Toronto to cover
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Speaker 5: the series, I was sitting next to an umpire that
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Speaker 5: I won't mention his name, but he was there with
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Speaker 5: his wife, and it just humanizes it, like his wife
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Speaker 5: is going there to watch them, and I'm just just
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Speaker 5: trying to think being in a white's position of an umpire,
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Speaker 5: you got to kind of be neutral. You don't really
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Speaker 5: root for your husband who's on the field, but they
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Speaker 5: are human beings with families and kids and wives. And
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Speaker 5: good on him for apologizing. I know it doesn't really
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Speaker 5: change anything, you know, long term, and really doesn't really
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Speaker 5: change any short term, but it does show that they
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Speaker 5: are human being and they do care.
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Speaker 6: KP.
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Speaker 2: How dangerous are the Los Angeles Dodgers. They have a
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Speaker 2: bona fide one through four starting pitching slate that they
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Speaker 2: can throw out their series by series. The question mark
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Speaker 2: can be the bullpen depth, but they also now suddenly
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Speaker 2: have perhaps the best closer in baseball who went three
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Speaker 2: perfect innings in that matchup.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you asked me that I didn't want to
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Speaker 5: stay the obvious because we going into spring training, going
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Speaker 5: into the season, if they were able to stay healthy.
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Speaker 5: This is what you were going to expect from the
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Speaker 5: Dodgers from a starting pitching standpoint. And obviously they went
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Speaker 5: out and signed a bunch of different guys in the
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Speaker 5: back end of the bullpen that they thought were going
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Speaker 5: to be dudes. But they have a real dude right
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Speaker 5: now who was having trouble getting outs in triple A
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Speaker 5: a month ago. But somehow the Dodgers do it again.
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Speaker 5: They figure out this guy can't start, We're just gonna
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Speaker 5: put him in the bullpen. Oh, by the way, we're
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Speaker 5: going to allow him to start closing playoff games, and
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Speaker 5: not only close games. He might even pitch three innings.
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Speaker 5: And when he's in there, he just wants to get
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Speaker 5: right back on the mound.
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Speaker 1: Krats favorite.
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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they got through the toughest opponent in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: from what I saw during the regular season. They're gonna
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Speaker 3: have to find a way to beat the Brewers or
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Speaker 3: the Cubs differently than they then they had to find
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Speaker 3: a way to beat the Phillies. Philly starting pitching, they're
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Speaker 3: not going to run up against anything like they saw
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Speaker 3: day in and day out with the Philly starting pitching.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they were Philly starting pitching is the all
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Speaker 3: star of the series for the for the Phillies. But
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to be able to beat the Brewers
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Speaker 3: a different way than they are the Cubs. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I think the National League wins it. I think that's
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Speaker 3: a I think that's a slam dunk. But you know what,
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Speaker 3: this team is firing on all cylinders and playing playing
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Speaker 3: their best in October what they were.
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Speaker 1: Built for actually kp.
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Speaker 2: You know the scariest part for opponents, what three hitter
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Speaker 2: maybe five on the planet had a brutal series. That's bad.
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Speaker 2: That's really bad. Law of averages. It doesn't look like
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Speaker 2: anything's particularly wrong. And show heo Tani is not going
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Speaker 2: to go one for eighteen with nine strikeouts in another
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Speaker 2: postseason for the rest of his life.
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Speaker 5: No, I mean, that's just the depth of the Dodgers.
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Speaker 5: You know, you can go pretty much without show hey.
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Speaker 5: I mean, he he In some ways he should have
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Speaker 5: just pitched. I mean, that's how bad he was to
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Speaker 5: be quite franked. But they're built for this, you know,
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Speaker 5: even even to the point where Max Munsey, who is
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Speaker 5: so is such a great player and has so many
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Speaker 5: great postseason moment moments. Is sitting on the bench to
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Speaker 5: allow Keik Hernandez, who also is turns into show heo
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Speaker 5: Tani in the postseason, Show Hey, who's in the regular
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Speaker 5: season in the postseason. It's like the Dodgers are just
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Speaker 5: built for this, Like it almost feels like the regular
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Speaker 5: season games are just this extended kind of warm up period.
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Speaker 5: Let's just go through the motions, Let's check all the boxes,
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Speaker 5: Let's make sure the body's feeling well, Let's get some
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Speaker 5: of the injuries out of the way, and then when
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Speaker 5: October rolls around, they're at their best.
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Speaker 3: Let's not be too recncy biased, though, we were talking
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Speaker 3: at this time last year, like can the Dodgers get
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Speaker 3: over the hump? Because this time last year, everyone's like
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Speaker 3: there's a faction of people who were like, twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: season didn't count. I played and it definitely counted, and
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Speaker 3: so they're like, can they get through an entire postseason
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Speaker 3: after an entire actual.
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Speaker 6: One sixty two?
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Speaker 3: So there was questions and they they almost were eliminated
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Speaker 3: by the Padres, so we're still questioning that, and now
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Speaker 3: they've won it, and now they're the way they're looking
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Speaker 3: this postseason. Yeah, you're like, whoah, these boys, these boys
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Speaker 3: are a juggernaut right now, and it's gonna be tough
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Speaker 3: to slow them down.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now the ultimate test is can a team repeat because
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Speaker 2: we haven't seen it in the modern game, it's been
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Speaker 2: a quarter century. It's really difficult to do. They do
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Speaker 2: have a very different looking pitching staff from last year,
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Speaker 2: which I think does become a big part of things.
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Speaker 2: Not the only thing, but it does become a big
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Speaker 2: part of things. And many of the pitchers that are
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Speaker 2: they're thrown out there now didn't pitch last year in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs for them. Otani Glass now, Roki, et cetera. Okay,
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Speaker 2: here we are and we do have some Are we
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Speaker 2: able to run the sound here from Ryan Kirkrea? Yes, okay, cool,
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Speaker 2: let's run that right now and then we can react
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Speaker 2: for a minute.
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Speaker 7: Shit off my foot just kind of once that the
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Speaker 7: pressure got to me. I just thought it was a
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Speaker 7: faster throw the JT little quicker throw than trying to
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Speaker 7: cross body at the price.
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Speaker 6: So just more shit throw.
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Speaker 7: The wall with the test ball, for sure, but yeah,
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Speaker 7: just kind of.
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Speaker 6: Keep going with it.
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Speaker 7: Hopefully it started a long career. Just keep back of
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Speaker 7: my head and this really fucking socks right now, but
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Speaker 7: hopefully keep pushing. When get over this, keep push.
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Speaker 6: That's it. I can't, I can't.
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Speaker 3: I can't be more proud of him for standing up
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Speaker 3: in that moment and talking to the media. The language
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Speaker 3: was just his honesty pouring out through it, and I
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Speaker 3: just can't. Yeah, I can't stand up enough for him
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Speaker 3: in a plaud like what he said was just what
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Speaker 3: he felt, and I'm proud of him for that.
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Speaker 5: Well, I get goosebumps thinking about it, because when you're
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Speaker 5: at the top, when you make it to the major
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Speaker 5: leagues and everything is going well, it's the best thing
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Speaker 5: in the world. But there is a flip side of that,
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Speaker 5: you know, especially in the playoffs, the entire world was watching.
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Speaker 5: It was the only game on so to be able
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Speaker 5: to get in front of the media, stand there like
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Speaker 5: a professional, answer the tough questions that you don't really
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Speaker 5: want to have to answer, and then honest and then
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Speaker 5: the last part is just to be honest and real
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Speaker 5: and like Kratty said, you know the language he used
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Speaker 5: and how he said it and the emotion and hold
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Speaker 5: back the tears is you know, only going to allow
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Speaker 5: him to have more fans in this world. I know
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Speaker 5: it sucks right now, but it's much appreciated from someone who's,
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Speaker 5: you know, been at the top of the mountaintop, who's
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Speaker 5: played in the major leagues and has had some bad
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Speaker 5: moments and had to stand in front of the camera
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Speaker 5: and be honest and kind of be vulnerable. And I
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Speaker 5: think that's what people don't understand is baseball players and
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Speaker 5: athletes are still human beings and they're vulnerable. And he
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Speaker 5: did a great job with it.
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Speaker 2: And when you hear someone be accountable and answer questions
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Speaker 2: like that and be real, I think that you got
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Speaker 2: a deeper connection with a fan based right yep.
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Speaker 1: Humanization factor.
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Speaker 1: Game five. Here we go, baby. Maybe home field.
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Speaker 2: Advantage is a thing in some scenarios. Brewers take the
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Speaker 2: first two, Cubs take the next two.
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Speaker 1: What's next?
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Speaker 3: What's next? Game five? That's what's next.
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Speaker 4: You're making me choose.
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Speaker 3: You're making me choose already the one.
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Speaker 2: I'm not making you choose who wins. I'm just saying, like,
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Speaker 2: what are we expecting in this game? Are the Cubs
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Speaker 2: going to show up with some pop? Are they going
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Speaker 2: to keep blitzing the Brewers early on? Tell me what
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Speaker 2: are you expecting here? How are the Brewers going to
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Speaker 2: map and craft the perfect you know, bullpen strategy here.
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Speaker 3: Because it's going to be all bullpen. It's going to
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Speaker 3: be all bullpen strategy. Is the miz going to show up?
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'm not fully confident in the mis yet, but kind
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Speaker 3: of like Rokie we saw in the other series, like
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Speaker 3: when you have a lead, stuff, you have a chance
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Speaker 3: to be elite. So do they need to give miss
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Speaker 3: a lead before they bring him in because maybe they're
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Speaker 3: a little not confident in it. To me, yeah, the
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Speaker 3: Cubs are gonna come out swinging in the first inning.
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Speaker 3: They've scored a billion runs in the first inning. And
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Speaker 3: to me, if the Brewers want to win this one,
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Speaker 3: I think it comes down to them playing their game,
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Speaker 3: which is defense, bullpen, and the thing that has been missing, missing, missing,
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Speaker 3: missing this whole series their base running. I need to
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Speaker 3: see them steal some bases. I think we If you
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Speaker 3: go back to when the Diamondbacks made their run in
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Speaker 3: twenty three, they had a team that was fast and
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Speaker 3: it was like, man, the Phillies just were keeping them down,
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Speaker 3: keeping them down. All of a sudden. In Game four
18:47
Speaker 3: they started running, they didn't win. Or in game five
18:49
Speaker 3: they started running, didn't win. Game six, they started running
18:53
Speaker 3: again seven, putting pressure on them. To me, I see
18:56
Speaker 3: the Brewers getting stuff going. Say, you have to steal
19:00
Speaker 3: all the bases, but you have to put pressure on
19:03
Speaker 3: a really good Cubs defense that doesn't give you extra outs,
19:06
Speaker 3: so you're getting extra ninety feet with your legs, which
19:10
Speaker 3: the Brewers did really well all season.
19:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about how these short seasons are, these
19:16
Speaker 5: short series work. We talk about home field advantage just
19:20
Speaker 5: I think home field advantage for those first two games
19:22
Speaker 5: is real. But when you go down two and you
19:25
Speaker 5: go home, yeah, you want to play great in front
19:28
Speaker 5: of your fans, but kind of everyone is counting you out.
19:31
Speaker 5: Then you win that first game, and then there's a
19:33
Speaker 5: little bit of pressure on the Brewers like, oh, we
19:35
Speaker 5: don't want this to get back home because then home
19:37
Speaker 5: field advantage is a thing. So the Cubs are able
19:40
Speaker 5: to win the second game, and I think all the
19:43
Speaker 5: pressure is back on the Brewers now because you're up
19:46
Speaker 5: O two. You had a chance to go into Chicago
19:48
Speaker 5: and sweep them. You lose that first game, you start
19:52
Speaker 5: to feel that little bit of pressure like, oh no,
19:54
Speaker 5: if we don't win this game, it's coming back home,
19:56
Speaker 5: and then the real pressure amounts. So I think the
19:59
Speaker 5: Cubs have a lot of momentum go into this. I
20:01
Speaker 5: don't think homefield is going to play in this scenario.
20:05
Speaker 5: I think the Brewers had to win it on the
20:06
Speaker 5: road in order to win this series. I think the
20:10
Speaker 5: Cubs find a way.
20:11
Speaker 4: To do it.
20:12
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, Yeah, that Game three was tight.
20:15
Speaker 2: Brewers had a ton of chances and they did not
20:18
Speaker 2: come through right. They had bases loaded. Keller came through
20:22
Speaker 2: in the eighth inning when they brought him in. That
20:23
Speaker 2: was a perfect button pressed by Craig Counsel in that moment.
20:27
Speaker 2: But that's a four to three game game four. Kp
20:30
Speaker 2: was not close, right. They blitz him early, as they've
20:33
Speaker 2: been doing. It was ean half this time with a
20:35
Speaker 2: three run shot off of fastball over the plate, and
20:38
Speaker 2: he'd been cold, so maybe he's woken up. Aside from that,
20:43
Speaker 2: there were threats from the Brewers, but.
20:47
Speaker 4: I don't know.
20:47
Speaker 1: Man, it never felt close.
20:49
Speaker 2: When you watch that one from front to back and
20:51
Speaker 2: then of course, the Cubs added insurance runs, you know,
20:54
Speaker 2: one per inning in the late stages.
20:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm speaking from a little bit of
20:59
Speaker 5: experience as someone who is down two in a series.
21:04
Speaker 5: Slightly different because we lost those first two games at home,
21:07
Speaker 5: but that was kind of always the mindset was you better.
21:11
Speaker 5: The only way we're losing this series is you had
21:14
Speaker 5: to beat us in game three, because if we went
21:16
Speaker 5: in and didn't get swept, we could feel kind of
21:19
Speaker 5: that momentum, that pressure starting to turn to the team
21:23
Speaker 5: that was up to oh. Because everyone says you're up
21:26
Speaker 5: to oh, you're supposed to win. But when you don't
21:28
Speaker 5: win that third game, that fourth game feels oh, very
21:32
Speaker 5: very very critical. And the Cubs went out and won,
21:34
Speaker 5: very deciding. Now you go back on this flight, and
21:37
Speaker 5: you know what you're up against not only a Game five,
21:39
Speaker 5: but you're also staring down the fact that you might be,
21:43
Speaker 5: you know, a team that loses. Teams that are up
21:45
Speaker 5: to oh win like almost ninety percent of the time.
21:47
Speaker 5: So that kind of little voice and that little pressure
21:50
Speaker 5: kind of adds up a little bit too.
21:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty to fifty if they win. To me, the Cubs,
21:57
Speaker 3: the Cubs big sticking point here who had a good
22:00
Speaker 3: game last night? Two of their big guys, Tucker, what
22:05
Speaker 3: was he two for I was just looking it up.
22:07
Speaker 3: Two for three, two walks, a steak, a dinger, Like
22:15
Speaker 3: that's scary if you're the Brewers, because how did the
22:17
Speaker 3: Brewers get knocked out last year by a dinger to
22:21
Speaker 3: end the game or in the end of the game
22:24
Speaker 3: by Pete Alonzo at home. Brewers fans need to come
22:28
Speaker 3: to the park with a positive attitude because that negativity
22:32
Speaker 3: of oh are we going to get are we going
22:34
Speaker 3: to get bounced again? In back to back to back years?
22:38
Speaker 3: Like is this how it's going to go down? Like,
22:41
Speaker 3: Oh no, what's going to happen next? And I think
22:43
Speaker 3: if they can get rolling, they'll take the momentum and
22:48
Speaker 3: they'll push it through the end of the game. If
22:50
Speaker 3: it's a close game throughout, I think the Cubs ultimately prevail.
22:55
Speaker 6: Yeah.
22:55
Speaker 5: And the greatest thing you could do as a road team,
22:58
Speaker 5: in which I experienced being in Yankee Stadium during the
23:03
Speaker 5: Toronto series, is you can go in with a plan
23:06
Speaker 5: as a fan base. But baseball is a very reactionary sport.
23:09
Speaker 5: You can only be excited about things that kind of
23:12
Speaker 5: happen on the field. You can motivate your team, but
23:14
Speaker 5: you're also very reactionary. And what the Blue Jays did
23:17
Speaker 5: a great job in Yankee Stadium. They scored first, they
23:20
Speaker 5: shut up the crowd, and then it took the Yankee
23:23
Speaker 5: some things to get back into the game, to get
23:25
Speaker 5: the crowd back into the game. What the Cubs have
23:27
Speaker 5: done really good in this series is scoring early. So
23:31
Speaker 5: if you're a Brewers fan and you want to create
23:34
Speaker 5: this home field environment, even if the Cubs score early,
23:38
Speaker 5: you have to find a way to just continue to
23:41
Speaker 5: be loud and motivate your team and not be very
23:44
Speaker 5: reactionary and not allow things that happened in the past
23:48
Speaker 5: to kind of dictate what's happening right now during this series.
23:53
Speaker 2: And we've seen this from the Burs all season long.
23:56
Speaker 2: I mean, falling behind early on in games and then unfhazed.
24:00
Speaker 2: Not even late catchups, it's often early catchups. I mean,
24:03
Speaker 2: I've seen plenty of Brewers games where this happens, and
24:05
Speaker 2: we saw them in both games that they played at home,
24:08
Speaker 2: falling behind early, and especially in Game two. Right Game
24:11
Speaker 2: two was the Suzuki home run from sea and then
24:15
Speaker 2: five seconds later. I mean, we're tied, so they are
24:17
Speaker 2: certainly capable of doing this, but can they outslug the
24:21
Speaker 2: Cubs in a winner take all game, and do they
24:23
Speaker 2: have the pitching plan in place. I'll tell you one thing, guys,
24:26
Speaker 2: I am certainly concerned if I'm a Brewers fan, regardless
24:29
Speaker 2: of what happens in this game five, because I'm looking
24:32
Speaker 2: at a Dodger team that's got the traditional starting pitching setup.
24:36
Speaker 2: They've got it all, they've got the experience, they're clicking
24:38
Speaker 2: at the right moment. And for Milwaukee, it's still difficult
24:43
Speaker 2: for me KP to look at this team and how
24:45
Speaker 2: successful they've been in regular seasons but not able to
24:48
Speaker 2: get over the hump in the postseason and wonder, just
24:51
Speaker 2: like we talked a little bit about with the Phillies,
24:53
Speaker 2: if they don't have the right potion to go the distance.
24:56
Speaker 2: I do think you need to build a regular season
24:58
Speaker 2: winner and have other things in mind for the postseason.
25:01
Speaker 2: Of course, traditional starter horses can help carry you. Brandon
25:04
Speaker 2: woodriff loss was huge for them. Imagine if you had
25:07
Speaker 2: the wood if that we were seeing when he came back,
25:10
Speaker 2: that would be a huge difference maker. Because that was
25:12
Speaker 2: eventually taps your pen, and their pen didn't have a
25:14
Speaker 2: good game just now against the Cubs.
25:17
Speaker 5: That was the exact name that came to mind. Is
25:19
Speaker 5: when you're talking about having the right pieces, the right potion.
25:22
Speaker 5: I think they were counting on him pitching in the
25:25
Speaker 5: postseason this year. Obviously he has some injury history. He
25:28
Speaker 5: got injured this year. But you can get away with
25:31
Speaker 5: these kind of bullpen kind of scramble mode kind of
25:35
Speaker 5: games in a five game series, but you will get
25:38
Speaker 5: exposed in a seven game series. And that was always
25:41
Speaker 5: the question with like a Dodger team, if they can
25:44
Speaker 5: get to the seven game series, that's what they're really
25:46
Speaker 5: built for because they do have your traditional four starters.
25:50
Speaker 5: You know, they even have a fifth starter and Kershoff
25:52
Speaker 5: you really wanted to use them who's now in the bullpen.
25:54
Speaker 5: But it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough if
25:58
Speaker 5: either of these teams move on, because I don't think
26:00
Speaker 5: the Cubs really have that kind of starting pitching depth
26:03
Speaker 5: two that you know, maybe like a Dodger team has,
26:05
Speaker 5: where you're rolling out four guys that you're very comfortable
26:08
Speaker 5: with every time they take the ball.
26:12
Speaker 2: Kratz, do you feel this at all, what are you
26:14
Speaker 2: seeing postseason version of Milwaukee. I know it's only been
26:18
Speaker 2: four games, but you made a face when I said, Hey,
26:22
Speaker 2: if you get through this game five, you're running into
26:24
Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
26:25
Speaker 3: I think they're built to give the Dodgers a tougher
26:29
Speaker 3: time than the Cubs. I think the Cubs can be
26:33
Speaker 3: pitched too, and you know, I think they're And look,
26:37
Speaker 3: people are gonna say I'm a homer. I'm not a
26:40
Speaker 3: homer for the team of the Brewers. I'm a homer
26:42
Speaker 3: for the fans of the Brewers. I almost want this
26:45
Speaker 3: more for the fans that I do, individual friends that
26:48
Speaker 3: I have on a team, or coaches who are on
26:52
Speaker 3: the team that I really like. To me, it's about
26:54
Speaker 3: like this, this fan base getting the ultimate prize. And
27:01
Speaker 3: in the way is the Cubs right now. In the
27:03
Speaker 3: way is the fact that they don't have a starting pitcher.
27:06
Speaker 3: But over these years, look at what the Brewers have
27:09
Speaker 3: had in starting pitching. They have had Corbin Burns mega
27:13
Speaker 3: free agent. Big Wu was going to be a mega
27:16
Speaker 3: free agent before the before the shoulder derailed him and
27:19
Speaker 3: he missed almost two seasons. Freddy Peralta is a bona
27:23
Speaker 3: fide Ace. Now he's taken that next step and you
27:28
Speaker 3: continually add guys in.
27:31
Speaker 6: So to me, I think they were built. They were
27:33
Speaker 6: built for.
27:34
Speaker 3: The postseason, but there's so many they don't have enough
27:37
Speaker 3: depth overall. And that's where I think it's tough. When
27:41
Speaker 3: you don't have the money, you can't go out and
27:43
Speaker 3: keep one of these guys. So they have to do
27:45
Speaker 3: things differently. And now they're backs up against the wall.
27:48
Speaker 3: They have to go and push all in whatever they
27:52
Speaker 3: feel like. Their style is go push all in and
27:56
Speaker 3: leave it out, leave it all out on the field,
27:58
Speaker 3: run but hit whatever it is. Your superstars need to
28:03
Speaker 3: step up. Each starting pitch or each pitcher needs to
28:06
Speaker 3: be ready for tonight and they need to leave it
28:08
Speaker 3: out on the field or the Cubs will take them
28:11
Speaker 3: down in this game.
28:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I got the same. I think the
28:17
Speaker 5: Blue Jays team is unbelievable. But that's really my concern
28:21
Speaker 5: with them going into that longer series is who's going
28:24
Speaker 5: to pitch the fourth game and if the Seattle's able
28:27
Speaker 5: to get there. I think that's what Seattle's really built for,
28:30
Speaker 5: is playing these long playoff series, assuming like someone like
28:33
Speaker 5: Brian Wu comes back. But it's hard. It's hard to,
28:37
Speaker 5: you know, really have four starting pitchers that you rely on,
28:40
Speaker 5: and sometimes it's really even hard to have three starting
28:42
Speaker 5: pitchers you can rely on. That's what makes the Dodgers
28:45
Speaker 5: just kind of this unique scenario where they just know
28:50
Speaker 5: that throughout a season you're going to go through a
28:52
Speaker 5: lot of starting pitching depth. But ultimately, when it comes
28:55
Speaker 5: down to these long series that you're trying to win,
28:58
Speaker 5: we need four guys.
29:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and during a season you need like fifteen, and
29:03
Speaker 2: then you hope that you've got five or six towards
29:06
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Then you can pick from
29:07
Speaker 2: that five or six to go with four that you
29:11
Speaker 2: think you can.
29:11
Speaker 1: Get through October with.
29:13
Speaker 2: And then if it's a tough decision, great and Michian
29:16
Speaker 2: pitches out of the bullpen for the Dodgers. Roki Sazaki
29:19
Speaker 2: is now a bullpen and extraordinary, And we get it.
29:21
Speaker 1: They've got the resources.
29:22
Speaker 2: But we mentioned this in the postgame show last night
29:25
Speaker 2: when the Dodgers took down the Phillies. They're not the
29:27
Speaker 2: only rich team in baseball, and they actually made plenty
29:30
Speaker 2: of mistakes, right Like they signed up Tanner Scott and
29:34
Speaker 2: Kirby Yates. They're not a relevant factor for this team
29:37
Speaker 2: in October now. So it's not like it was perfection.
29:40
Speaker 2: The Mets spent close to as much money as them
29:43
Speaker 2: and they haven't figured out even making the playoffs this year.
29:46
Speaker 2: But anyway, we're excited. Game five is going to be awesome.
29:49
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see it. My last shout out here
29:51
Speaker 2: from Game four is Matt Boyd completely turning it around
29:55
Speaker 2: and showing why he needs a regular rest like any
29:58
Speaker 2: other starter in baseball. I'm sorry like that. His stuff
30:02
Speaker 2: was so much better, so much more crisp, command of
30:06
Speaker 2: the curve, crats like it to look just like at
30:09
Speaker 2: his secondary stuff alone, and the difference that you saw
30:11
Speaker 2: in the first game versus what you saw in Game four,
30:15
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, yeah, modern starter needs regular rest,
30:18
Speaker 2: especially a guy who's been through it, pitched a really
30:21
Speaker 2: long year, had some issues down the stretch of this season.
30:25
Speaker 1: It was a no brainer to see the difference. And
30:27
Speaker 1: they won't do that again.
30:29
Speaker 3: These are the kind of decisions that I would be
30:32
Speaker 3: more leaning towards, like somebody else getting in trouble for.
30:35
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying it's a council thing. I'm saying
30:39
Speaker 3: for the team to come to him and say, hey,
30:41
Speaker 3: will you start. Maybe wasn't reading the room and if
30:44
Speaker 3: the Cubs lose, If the Cubs lose this series, somebody
30:48
Speaker 3: wasn't reading the room. Having Matthew Boyd all the things
30:51
Speaker 3: you just said, a little bit of injury history has
30:54
Speaker 3: kind of bounced around, was struggling a little bit at
30:56
Speaker 3: the end of the year, and you can't go to
30:58
Speaker 3: him and say, can you get us game one short rest? Like, yeah, KP,
31:05
Speaker 3: I'm sure you would agree with me. Your leg's hanging off.
31:08
Speaker 3: You're like, am I faster than this person you're gonna
31:10
Speaker 3: put out there? I'm playing. But there's a point where
31:13
Speaker 3: the team has to say, no, we're not gonna throw
31:16
Speaker 3: your own short rest. Sorry, we just can't do that.
31:19
Speaker 3: And it proved it last night.
31:22
Speaker 5: It's not always the rest component too. It's as a
31:26
Speaker 5: starting pitcher, you get off the mound twice, you throw,
31:28
Speaker 5: and then you got your bullpen. But to be sharp,
31:31
Speaker 5: you need to be able to kind of have that
31:33
Speaker 5: bullpen day, you know, unless maybe going into it, you
31:36
Speaker 5: know you're gonna pitch on short rest and maybe you
31:38
Speaker 5: can get off the mound a little bit and really
31:41
Speaker 5: work on your craft. But you know, it's much like
31:44
Speaker 5: pinch hitting, Like it's really hard to go out there
31:48
Speaker 5: and be in a rhythm all the time. That's why
31:51
Speaker 5: playing every day is a little bit easier than coming
31:53
Speaker 5: off the bench. So when you're only able to get
31:55
Speaker 5: off the mound and then get off the mound again,
31:57
Speaker 5: and you have no ability to kind of work on
32:00
Speaker 5: your mechanics, your feel for your pitches, I think that's
32:03
Speaker 5: an equally as big factor of why guys typically struggle
32:06
Speaker 5: on short rest is because they just don't have the
32:09
Speaker 5: feel for their stuff.
32:11
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33:22
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33:28
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33:30
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Speaker 2: kp your thoughts. I mean, the Yankees, for their standards,
33:40
Speaker 2: have not gone the distance in a long time for
33:42
Speaker 2: their standards, right, It's a team that's had a ton
33:45
Speaker 2: of success.
33:45
Speaker 1: They have resources, they've.
33:47
Speaker 2: Had the same GM forever and now they've had the
33:49
Speaker 2: same manager for a long period of time. Some of
33:52
Speaker 2: the guys are going to move on, but I'm talking
33:54
Speaker 2: about player personnel. But they've still got most guys under
33:56
Speaker 2: contract for a while.
33:58
Speaker 1: So what do you do?
34:01
Speaker 5: I mean, I honestly, I listened to what you know,
34:03
Speaker 5: Jeter and a Rod had to say after the game,
34:05
Speaker 5: and I don't think it's Aaron Boone problem. I think
34:07
Speaker 5: it's a roster configuration problem. You know, obviously someone had
34:12
Speaker 5: the entire team. Can't take the blame. You can't. The
34:15
Speaker 5: old saying is you can't fire the whole team, right,
34:16
Speaker 5: so someone has to, you know, be fired, you take
34:20
Speaker 5: the blame for what they're doing. And in this case,
34:22
Speaker 5: I don't think it's Aaron Boone. I think it's the
34:25
Speaker 5: roster that he was given was a little bit flawed.
34:27
Speaker 5: You know, you have two left handed catchers, you have
34:30
Speaker 5: multiple dhs, you don't have a lot of versatility to
34:33
Speaker 5: be able to kind of mix and match. You don't
34:35
Speaker 5: have a lot of contact. You have a lot of
34:37
Speaker 5: power and not a lot of contact, not a lot
34:39
Speaker 5: of speed. So I think it's more about the way
34:42
Speaker 5: the roster was constructed and granted, you know, if you
34:44
Speaker 5: have Garrett Cole pitching in two of these games, it's
34:47
Speaker 5: probably a different story. But teams that are able to
34:51
Speaker 5: overcome injuries of their superstars and being able to have
34:55
Speaker 5: depth and piece it together and draft and develop and
34:57
Speaker 5: have these guys kind of you know, waiting in the
34:59
Speaker 5: wing is you know, I think the bigger issue here Kratz.
35:04
Speaker 2: One thing I just want to add, and we'll have
35:06
Speaker 2: to have Andrey Martinez back on the show because he
35:08
Speaker 2: was kind of defending the front office side of the equation,
35:10
Speaker 2: even though I do think it's much more roster construction
35:12
Speaker 2: than Boonie is.
35:14
Speaker 1: He said out.
35:14
Speaker 2: Susan Waldman pointed out that no, Boonie's just getting the
35:17
Speaker 2: info and then making the decisions. And I love Susan too,
35:20
Speaker 2: but guess what, if you disagree too much, you don't
35:22
Speaker 2: have a job. That's how it works. It doesn't have
35:24
Speaker 2: to be said. But I'm going against both of them
35:27
Speaker 2: on that front, and.
35:28
Speaker 3: They have to all work in lockstep. Good organizations, which
35:31
Speaker 3: the Yankees are a great organization, are working in lockstep
35:35
Speaker 3: where you don't win.
35:37
Speaker 1: I agree. It's ft presented by Fox One.
35:43
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Ryan Divish coming up in
35:45
Speaker 2: just a moment about the Seattle Mariners and the Detroit Tigers,
35:49
Speaker 2: and obviously the Mariners have the ultimate street going here.
35:53
Speaker 2: The only team KP in Major League Baseball that's never
35:56
Speaker 2: made it to the World Series. No World Series appearances
36:00
Speaker 2: for the Mariners, and they're damn close here.
36:04
Speaker 5: I mean, if they weren't clashing with the team that
36:07
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for, I would be rooting for him, because,
36:10
Speaker 5: once again, I like seeing things that have never happened before.
36:14
Speaker 5: I think the Mariners is a tremendous organization. I always
36:19
Speaker 5: love going to the city of Seattle. Very passionate fan
36:22
Speaker 5: base and hot take. I think they have the MVP.
36:29
Speaker 6: Not that hot, kind of lukewarm, kind of a lukewarm take, but.
36:34
Speaker 5: No, I no, I was more to just get you
36:36
Speaker 5: going a little bit.
36:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's I think it's fifty
36:40
Speaker 3: to fifty. Got a chance it is going to be
36:45
Speaker 3: a game five, not like we've ever seen. I feel
36:49
Speaker 3: like when it's Game five.
36:49
Speaker 6: You're like, oh, who's going to hit the home run?
36:51
Speaker 3: It's like who's going to get jammed and get the
36:55
Speaker 3: first on a fielder's choice?
37:00
Speaker 5: Can we recreate that ball that went over Schoobl's head.
37:04
Speaker 5: You know, that's what they're working on the cagere at
37:05
Speaker 5: right now. They're like, hey, you can't hit them, but
37:08
Speaker 5: maybe you can chop one off home plate, get it
37:11
Speaker 5: over his head. And if you are fortunate to somehow
37:13
Speaker 5: get to second base, just run like hell until someone
37:16
Speaker 5: stops you, because it feels like that's the only way
37:19
Speaker 5: to score.
37:19
Speaker 3: Run off them, and we'll pick your thumbs up. The
37:22
Speaker 3: next batter will pick your thumbs up in the batter's box,
37:24
Speaker 3: or the guy scoring will pick pick your thumbs up.
37:27
Speaker 3: Like it's like you're gonna see old school baseball tonight, that.
37:31
Speaker 6: Is for sure, buners.
37:34
Speaker 5: I mean we could see we could see a sagmunt
37:36
Speaker 5: in the first inning. I think that's how that's what
37:39
Speaker 5: type of game it's gonna be.
37:41
Speaker 1: Over Under two and a half bunts.
37:44
Speaker 6: In the game, I'm going under. Going over, I'm going
37:48
Speaker 6: under because they won. They won't have that many base runners.
37:52
Speaker 1: Wow, here we go.
37:54
Speaker 2: Let's talk about this big game five coming up with
37:57
Speaker 2: Seattle Times writer Ryan Davish. Back on it, Ryan, we
38:00
Speaker 2: really appreciate the time, crazy night coming up in Seattle.
38:03
Speaker 2: Can you paint the picture of how crazy it's going
38:06
Speaker 2: to be for the city, but then also for the
38:09
Speaker 2: game in terms of decision making on the Seattle side,
38:12
Speaker 2: I think Dan Wilson probably is going to have a
38:15
Speaker 2: little more churning to do with his pitching decisions versus
38:18
Speaker 2: aj Hinch.
38:20
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm expecting it to be chaos tonight. I think
38:24
Speaker 8: part of it is is like, I know the fan
38:26
Speaker 8: base is excited, but there's a segment of the fan
38:28
Speaker 8: base it's absolutely terrified of what's kind of happened because
38:32
Speaker 8: of I don't know, just the years and years and
38:35
Speaker 8: years of frustration, and so there is a large segment
38:38
Speaker 8: of the fan base that's probably a little pessimistic.
38:41
Speaker 4: They seem to all reside in my Twitter mentions.
38:44
Speaker 8: Then there's also a part of the fan base that's like,
38:47
Speaker 8: oh yeah, I no, Like it's better that they have this.
38:49
Speaker 8: Let's you know, they can win it at home, everybody
38:52
Speaker 8: can celebrate with them.
38:53
Speaker 4: It'll be pandemonium.
38:54
Speaker 8: I mean, when they clinched the division, there was a
38:58
Speaker 8: huge party outside of T Mobile Park and people are
39:02
Speaker 8: out celebrating. So I'm guessing that's you know that there's
39:05
Speaker 8: just all that kind of anxiety, like nervous anxiety, excited energy, all.
39:10
Speaker 4: That stuff mixed together.
39:11
Speaker 8: You just don't want the rubbing off on the players obviously,
39:14
Speaker 8: and it's for the moves. I mean, like it's gonna
39:17
Speaker 8: be a little different. You know, we've expected this from
39:20
Speaker 8: aj Hinch because that's how they've done stuff a lot
39:23
Speaker 8: of the years.
39:23
Speaker 4: But it's different when you have Trek Skuel on the mound.
39:26
Speaker 4: You don't, you know, your decisions are pretty easy.
39:28
Speaker 8: With Dan Wilson, you know it's gonna be managing a
39:32
Speaker 8: game different than he's ever managed before. I mean, I
39:35
Speaker 8: think that he saw that in game one, adjusted in
39:38
Speaker 8: game two. I thought in game four there was some
39:41
Speaker 8: different things he could have done maybe to offset things.
39:45
Speaker 8: And so tonight it's gonna be you know, if George
39:47
Speaker 8: Kirby doesn't have it, you got to go get him
39:49
Speaker 8: right away.
39:49
Speaker 4: You know.
39:50
Speaker 8: I think he'll be fine. I think George's has looked
39:52
Speaker 8: pretty strong. You saw the ninety nine mile por sinkers.
39:54
Speaker 8: He was firing in the last game. There's last outing.
39:57
Speaker 8: But you cannot hesitate. You have to be aggre if
40:00
Speaker 8: in every decision you make in a game five, because
40:02
Speaker 8: it's winner.
40:03
Speaker 5: Go home, Ryan finish this sentence for me, the manner
40:08
Speaker 5: the Mariners win tonight, if.
40:12
Speaker 8: The Mayors win a night, if Cal Rawley or Julio
40:16
Speaker 8: Rodriguez hit a homer, that's you know, to me, that's
40:19
Speaker 8: a big thing. Like if you noticed the first few
40:21
Speaker 8: games where they were going, Julio was a big presence,
40:24
Speaker 8: and I think Game three, Game four, they really were
40:27
Speaker 8: very careful with how they pitched to him because they
40:30
Speaker 8: know how much damage he can cause, and he didn't.
40:32
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't have a hit in neither of
40:34
Speaker 4: those two games, I believe, So getting.
40:36
Speaker 8: Julio on base or having him hit him hit a homer,
40:39
Speaker 8: I know, you guys, a boy aj he's been bringing up.
40:42
Speaker 4: If the Mariners hit two homers in a game, that
40:43
Speaker 4: are usually pretty unbeatable.
40:45
Speaker 8: So if they can get one homer from Cal or
40:48
Speaker 8: Julio and then maybe a homer from somebody else, that's
40:50
Speaker 8: how they do it. But it probably won't come off
40:52
Speaker 8: of Terrek schoobl I mean, like you think about it.
40:54
Speaker 8: The other day, Scooble threw what six innings, he struck
40:57
Speaker 8: out nine, He allowed five hits, but he just basically
41:00
Speaker 8: they made two mistakes and they were both to Polanco.
41:02
Speaker 4: Who hit him out.
41:03
Speaker 8: I'm guessing that he won't throw a cement mixer to
41:05
Speaker 8: Jorge Polanco again, or even a two to zero fastball
41:08
Speaker 8: and challenge him. I think they're gonna be very They're
41:11
Speaker 8: gonna be very cognizant about where they want to be
41:14
Speaker 8: and with in certain spots of the zone and let
41:16
Speaker 8: other guys beat them, specifically the bottom of the order,
41:19
Speaker 8: which other than in Game four, hasn't done a whole lot.
41:23
Speaker 3: Do you lean to the fact that it is almost
41:25
Speaker 3: impossible to beat Tarrek Scruble four times in a season
41:29
Speaker 3: and just say he's been almost perfect. Now tonight he's
41:33
Speaker 3: gonna be perfect? Or is there something in the sauce?
41:36
Speaker 3: Is there something in the fact that this team swings
41:40
Speaker 3: and Tarrek Scrugle's not pitching around guys and so you
41:44
Speaker 3: know the two laws of attraction pitches guys pitching the
41:47
Speaker 3: zone and teams that swing. Something bad is gonna happen
41:50
Speaker 3: for Scooble.
41:51
Speaker 8: I certainly don't think they're afraid of him. I mean,
41:54
Speaker 8: like you played him three times, you're not afraid of
41:56
Speaker 8: what he's done. You know you can beat him, even
41:59
Speaker 8: if it has been kind of ugly.
42:00
Speaker 4: In how they've beaten him.
42:01
Speaker 8: I mean, we're trying about Donovan Solano hit an RBI
42:04
Speaker 8: triple in one of the games that they beat him,
42:05
Speaker 8: and Dylan Moore, who you know, in the first time
42:08
Speaker 8: they beat him, they hit a solo homer. Those guys
42:10
Speaker 8: aren't with him anymore. But I think you beat a guy,
42:12
Speaker 8: you've seen him a lot. I think they understand. The
42:15
Speaker 8: one thing is is like that that change up, that disgusting,
42:18
Speaker 8: filthy change up they get in counts where that it's
42:21
Speaker 8: a possibility. They just got to see it up because
42:23
Speaker 8: it's like that thing is so nasty and he'll.
42:25
Speaker 4: Throw it left on left. You know.
42:28
Speaker 8: I was looking at my buddy Tim Booth that works
42:29
Speaker 8: with me at the see all times. He did some
42:31
Speaker 8: research on this and like guys coming out of their
42:33
Speaker 8: their cy Young year or guys in their cy Young Year,
42:36
Speaker 8: and we were expecting Schooble to win the Cy Young Year.
42:38
Speaker 8: They don't lose to a team four times very often.
42:41
Speaker 8: And the best kind of comp we could come up
42:43
Speaker 8: with was twenty thirteen Clayton Kershaw, who lost the you know,
42:47
Speaker 8: the Dodgers lost two games he started against the Cardinals
42:49
Speaker 8: during the regular season, and they lost both times in the Alds,
42:53
Speaker 8: so that's kind of where you know, and man, they
42:55
Speaker 8: just crushed Kershaw that year. I don't think I'll do
42:57
Speaker 8: the same with school. But that's where the territory we're
43:00
Speaker 8: in right now. It's like you're comparing Scooball to Kershaw,
43:04
Speaker 8: and that's what you're trying to do is beat him
43:05
Speaker 8: four times or beat a game that he beat the
43:08
Speaker 8: team when he starts four times in a season. It's
43:10
Speaker 8: not simple, but I mean, stranger things have happened.
43:14
Speaker 6: Should they even be in this spot?
43:16
Speaker 3: We've watched a Tigers lineup that is, in my opinion,
43:20
Speaker 3: is putrid. I get it the fact that the Mariner's rotation,
43:24
Speaker 3: the Mariners bullpen, they are just running out arm after
43:27
Speaker 3: arm after arm, and Tigers have looked listless. And yet
43:31
Speaker 3: they're in a spot that is enviable by everybody. Elite
43:36
Speaker 3: starter going and you win tonight, you move on. Should
43:39
Speaker 3: the Mariners even be in this spot?
43:43
Speaker 4: No, because I think they should have won Game one.
43:45
Speaker 8: I don't think there's any way George Kirby should have
43:47
Speaker 8: pitched the trek school or to carry Carpenter. There was
43:50
Speaker 8: a bag open if you want to walk him. You
43:52
Speaker 8: can do that, just don't let that happen. And similar
43:55
Speaker 8: to the other day, I mean it's three nothing. I
43:57
Speaker 8: know that you know, Spire and Bizarre, they just weren't
44:00
Speaker 8: as crisp.
44:01
Speaker 4: But I think you.
44:03
Speaker 8: Know, in that situation, Dan Wilson did a favor for
44:07
Speaker 8: AJ Hinch by bringing Inspire to face Parker Meadows.
44:10
Speaker 4: That was into ten. You know he strikes out thirty
44:13
Speaker 4: percent of the time.
44:13
Speaker 8: You don't need if you want to go bring in Bizarro,
44:16
Speaker 8: because what happened is is the moment Spier came in,
44:19
Speaker 8: Jamia Jones came in, and that did them a favor.
44:21
Speaker 8: You weren't You weren't putting a situation where AJ had
44:24
Speaker 8: to make a decision between Jami Jones and Kerry Carpenter.
44:27
Speaker 8: It's no decision with a lefty face in Parker Meadows.
44:29
Speaker 8: You're going to Jamia Jones regardless of the defense that
44:32
Speaker 8: Meadows provides. So then all of a sudden, Gabe Spier's
44:34
Speaker 8: facing back to back writings. Then he gets Carpenter in
44:36
Speaker 8: another wrighty, that's not what you have Gabe Spier in
44:39
Speaker 8: there for.
44:40
Speaker 4: And I know he can get out right hander. So
44:41
Speaker 4: I think that one was kind of questionable. The Mayors didn't.
44:44
Speaker 8: Add after they got the three runs they had basis load,
44:46
Speaker 8: they only get one. But yeah, I feel like this
44:49
Speaker 8: series should have been over with. Am I a little
44:52
Speaker 8: sour because it would have been a lot easier to
44:54
Speaker 8: drive from Toronto from Detroit to Toronto than flying back
44:56
Speaker 8: to Seattle.
44:57
Speaker 4: But they they, I.
44:58
Speaker 8: Mean from a talent standpoint, yeah, the Marriners are the
45:00
Speaker 8: better team. And what happens is when you get to
45:03
Speaker 8: a game five in a short series and you know
45:05
Speaker 8: they got their horse going, luck starts to play into
45:08
Speaker 8: it too. A bad break here, a bad break there,
45:10
Speaker 8: you know, I mean you look at the other day.
45:12
Speaker 8: I felt like the Bryce Miller inning where everything went south.
45:16
Speaker 8: Randio Rosarina has to cut that ball off in left field.
45:19
Speaker 8: It's happened twice. Bad angle, bad Reid doesn't cut it off.
45:23
Speaker 8: Let's it get to the gap. Then all of a
45:24
Speaker 8: sudden it's a double scoring run. You know, if he
45:27
Speaker 8: cuts it off, if he finds a way to cut
45:29
Speaker 8: it off, maybe they get the run of the third.
45:31
Speaker 8: But Dylan Dingler does not get to second base. And
45:33
Speaker 8: then you can play a little bit, You can match up,
45:35
Speaker 8: you can do some things. So I think, like that's
45:38
Speaker 8: the thing is like, once you get into a game five,
45:41
Speaker 8: the luck component happens. One mistake here, one mistake there.
45:45
Speaker 4: You know that happens.
45:46
Speaker 8: Like even last night you're watching you're watching the Phillies
45:50
Speaker 8: and the Dodgers. The Phillies had so many opportunities and
45:53
Speaker 8: they just couldn't and it's game five and you find
45:55
Speaker 8: a way to lose and you're done. And that's the
45:57
Speaker 8: difference with the five game series versus the seven. In
46:00
Speaker 8: a seven, I think the overall talent of the Mariners
46:02
Speaker 8: wins out regardless of decisions. But in five, you know,
46:06
Speaker 8: you make one mistake, you have one bad game from
46:09
Speaker 8: a reliever or something like that, and all of a
46:10
Speaker 8: sudden you're fighting for your life.
46:13
Speaker 5: All right, make your best case against Aeric Kratz, who
46:16
Speaker 5: believes Aaron Judge is going to win the MVP. Why
46:18
Speaker 5: cal Rawley should be the MVP.
46:23
Speaker 8: Well, the running joke was the other night cal Rawley,
46:27
Speaker 8: after Vargas threw the wild pitch that he couldn't block,
46:30
Speaker 8: he threw one hundred mile per hour sinker in the
46:32
Speaker 8: dirt that cal went across his body backhanded and blocked
46:35
Speaker 8: with one leg and glove and right there I said,
46:41
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, hitting sixty homers is pretty hard. Catching
46:45
Speaker 8: Carlos Vargas multiple times in a season, on's the aeron judge,
46:48
Speaker 8: do that?
46:48
Speaker 6: You know what?
46:48
Speaker 4: I mean?
46:49
Speaker 8: Like the amount of stress that Cal Rawley has put
46:51
Speaker 8: on himself and his body physically every day.
46:54
Speaker 4: Crats should know how many times you get up and
46:56
Speaker 4: get down in a nine inning game.
46:59
Speaker 8: I mean, this is guy's caught more innings than anybody
47:01
Speaker 8: else in the American League.
47:02
Speaker 4: I just think physically what he's done.
47:05
Speaker 8: The amount of pressure, the amount of time, the amount
47:07
Speaker 8: of focus that goes into everyone else other than him.
47:11
Speaker 8: I think that's why. I mean, that's how you measure value.
47:15
Speaker 8: You know, I was a very mediocre catcher in college
47:18
Speaker 8: and catching a seven inning game, I felt like I
47:21
Speaker 8: got hit by a train. So Cal's doing this every
47:24
Speaker 8: night and catching the best guys in the world. So
47:26
Speaker 8: I just think, like the amount of influence he has
47:30
Speaker 8: on the game, beyond his hitting numbers, beyond OPS plus
47:33
Speaker 8: or ops is something you can't possibly measure, but you
47:39
Speaker 8: kind of know it. And I mean, I guess to me,
47:41
Speaker 8: it's like I see an MVP level performance and somebody
47:46
Speaker 8: joke with me that it's because I spent most of
47:48
Speaker 8: my early years of my career in Seattle watching bad
47:51
Speaker 8: catching that when I see good catching, I overvalue it.
47:54
Speaker 8: But I don't think there's any overvaluing good catching and
47:59
Speaker 8: production from a catch. I mean, how many guys do
48:02
Speaker 8: we see now produced from the catcher spot the way?
48:05
Speaker 4: Not even like cal Rawle.
48:06
Speaker 8: I mean cal Rale of last year is kind of
48:09
Speaker 8: like a unicorn hitting thirty five bombs sixty.
48:12
Speaker 4: I mean, I will never see a season like this again.
48:16
Speaker 3: You mean Kenji Joe Jama wasn't the best catcher you've
48:19
Speaker 3: ever seen?
48:20
Speaker 6: And go ahead, go ahead.
48:23
Speaker 4: I go off the list.
48:25
Speaker 8: I covered Miguelo Levo and Jeff Clement, Jesus Montero, who
48:30
Speaker 8: I hope is doing better because I know he's in
48:32
Speaker 8: a bad car accident down in Venezuela.
48:34
Speaker 4: I cover a lot of bad catchers.
48:36
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, that's why when Mike Xanino, when
48:39
Speaker 8: they drafted Mike's Andino, and everybody was upset because you know,
48:42
Speaker 8: Zanino was a two hundred hitter. That the amount of
48:45
Speaker 8: runs that dude save. And I mean, ask the Tampa
48:48
Speaker 8: Bay Rays what they've been looking for since a Nino
48:50
Speaker 8: got hurt and retired. Like when you have that that
48:53
Speaker 8: guy back there and you can stamp him in and
48:55
Speaker 8: he can post.
48:57
Speaker 4: I mean, it just makes such a huge difference.
49:00
Speaker 6: All right.
49:01
Speaker 3: Well, to make sure KP understands, I think Cow's the MVP.
49:06
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Judge wins it. My opinion and who
49:10
Speaker 3: wins it are two different things. But we gotta go
49:14
Speaker 3: to We gotta go to Josh Naylor for my last question.
49:17
Speaker 3: Josh Naylor relaying signs, what what do you like? Can
49:26
Speaker 3: can we put this to bed? Is Hinch pissed about it?
49:29
Speaker 6: Is?
49:29
Speaker 3: Is it something that's gonna be taken care of tonight
49:32
Speaker 3: spring training?
49:33
Speaker 6: What do we got on it?
49:35
Speaker 4: Yeah? AJ didn't seem very upset, you know, but AJ's
49:39
Speaker 4: pretty polished on the podium.
49:41
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lie like he's a writer's dream because
49:44
Speaker 8: he can talk forever about anything. But he didn't seem
49:48
Speaker 8: too upset about it. I don't think kazy Miies was
49:50
Speaker 8: upset or pleased about it. You know, he had a
49:52
Speaker 8: few words. But this has been going on. It happened
49:57
Speaker 8: to Andres Munos in New York earlier this year. Your
50:00
Speaker 8: judge and some guys were signaling pitches and Munyos was
50:05
Speaker 8: leaving his glove open so they could see the grips
50:07
Speaker 8: on his pitches. And your facing Ondres Munno is knowing
50:10
Speaker 8: that slider's coming is pretty useful. So I don't know
50:13
Speaker 8: how much was pure location how much was gamesmanship. But
50:17
Speaker 8: dominic can Zone was right after him and he was
50:20
Speaker 8: signaling as well.
50:21
Speaker 4: And I think in this.
50:22
Speaker 8: Situation, you know, you have to you have to do
50:26
Speaker 8: whatever it takes. Sure, could you be a little more subtle, Yeah,
50:30
Speaker 8: But I mean, let's be honest, as Josh Naylor ever
50:32
Speaker 8: come off as a subtle dude when it comes to.
50:34
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff. And I'll say this about Josh.
50:38
Speaker 8: Naylor, and it's true, he picks it up from watching
50:42
Speaker 8: the games, like the lost art of watching games. You know,
50:44
Speaker 8: you're not looking at the iPad and everything else. He's
50:47
Speaker 8: in there watching games, and like he picks stuff up
50:49
Speaker 8: while he's watching the game, whether it's from the dugout
50:52
Speaker 8: on base, you know, he sees all that stuff. And
50:54
Speaker 8: I mean, credit to him. Yeah, could you do it
50:56
Speaker 8: a little bit more subtly? Probably? You know, when we
51:00
Speaker 8: saw Dingler moving the locations around a little bit and
51:03
Speaker 8: trying to fake out the locations, and I don't know
51:06
Speaker 8: how much of it was real and what wasn't. It
51:08
Speaker 8: certainly bothered Casey Mice when he was pitching. So I
51:11
Speaker 8: don't think Josh is gonna change. I don't think anything's
51:14
Speaker 8: gonna make Josh Naylor change anything. So from there, we'll
51:17
Speaker 8: we'll see. But it'll be interesting tonight.
51:18
Speaker 7: You know.
51:18
Speaker 8: In the old days, there yeah, heaters in your ribs.
51:21
Speaker 8: I just don't think the postseas are going.
51:22
Speaker 6: To see that. Now.
51:24
Speaker 2: You might see it next season, or like krat said,
51:26
Speaker 2: sometime in twenty twenty six, when it matters less in
51:29
Speaker 2: a different moment. And I don't believe Hinch for a second,
51:32
Speaker 2: or even if you do. It might not have bothered him,
51:34
Speaker 2: but it bothered some of the players. And we also
51:37
Speaker 2: saw what happened later on in the game. I mean
51:39
Speaker 2: the Tigers lit up. I'm not saying that that was
51:41
Speaker 2: what caused it, but I think some Tigers were pretty
51:44
Speaker 2: pissed about it.
51:45
Speaker 1: That's me.
51:45
Speaker 4: They're certainly aware about it.
51:47
Speaker 8: Right now, they're going to be discussing and I'm sure
51:48
Speaker 8: they discussed it on the flight and discussing it pregame.
51:51
Speaker 8: Make sure, Hey, close up your glove. Okay, don't signal
51:53
Speaker 8: too soon. We saw that with cal Rawley too, that
51:56
Speaker 8: they felt like the Dodgers were tipping some and even
51:59
Speaker 8: the Astros were, we're tipping some pitches and kyl Rawley
52:02
Speaker 8: started showing the glove and his target a lot.
52:04
Speaker 4: Later because of it.
52:05
Speaker 8: You make the adjustment and there are you know, you're
52:09
Speaker 8: trying to win here and it isn't illegal. I mean,
52:11
Speaker 8: I think that's probably probably one reason why AJ Hinch
52:13
Speaker 8: can't talk about it or be hypercritical of it, because
52:16
Speaker 8: it'd be a little hypocritical.
52:18
Speaker 4: If he did, considering who he managed during those years.
52:22
Speaker 1: Exactly right. He has to watch it a little more,
52:25
Speaker 1: which is understandable too.
52:26
Speaker 4: Ryan.
52:27
Speaker 1: Enjoy it, man, It's gonna be awesome. What a scene.
52:29
Speaker 2: I know you've covered this team for a minute and
52:31
Speaker 2: this is the big moment. So thanks for joining us before.
52:34
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time.
52:35
Speaker 6: Dude.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks.
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Speaker 8: I've had a lot of AJ in my life. I'm
52:38
Speaker 8: not going to say five games of AJ. It's a lot,
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Speaker 8: you know.
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Speaker 2: One more AJ and he's going to be bringing this
52:45
Speaker 2: is his last game of the year, so yes, we
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Speaker 2: apologize in advance.
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Speaker 1: But I don't feel bad for you.
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Speaker 2: We have him on just about every day, so I
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Speaker 2: sit next to him for half of my life. Thanks Ryan,
52:55
Speaker 2: doctor soon dude, coming back for a quick minute here.
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Speaker 2: So Mike G's a big Cups fan and he's been
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Speaker 2: in the chat. We've been going back and forth.
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Speaker 1: Two things.
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Speaker 2: One he said we were not listening closely enough to
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Speaker 2: the broadcast because it was in the very beginning of
53:07
Speaker 2: the game.
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Speaker 1: And I actually will take the l on that one.
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Speaker 1: He's probably right.
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Speaker 2: We're doing a postgame show, and you know, they were
53:13
Speaker 2: flipping from the one game to the other, so there
53:14
Speaker 2: was a little bit of crossover there, so I I
53:16
Speaker 2: was looking at it, but I guess I missed. You know,
53:18
Speaker 2: apparently the broadcast was picking up the Freddy thing and
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Speaker 2: it was a huge deal and it's all they're talking
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Speaker 2: about in Chicago.
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Speaker 1: So okay, that's fair. Number two.
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Speaker 2: Caid, Yeah, exactly, not a national story, more of a
53:28
Speaker 2: local thing. Cool Caid Horton, he said, would you try
53:33
Speaker 2: and fudge the roster get someone hurt to put him
53:36
Speaker 2: in for Game five? Because he said that he's pain
53:38
Speaker 2: free now. And I looked into the story a little
53:40
Speaker 2: bit more and he did say he's pain free, but
53:43
Speaker 2: he said really not trying to still push it. But
53:46
Speaker 2: for right now, I'm feeling good. So I don't know
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Speaker 2: if he's definitely ready, And I don't think that's going
53:53
Speaker 2: to happen because I'm assuming there's got to be all
53:54
Speaker 2: kinds of throwing programs and things going on. But maybe
53:57
Speaker 2: he will be a factor in the next round, which
53:59
Speaker 2: would be huge for them if that's the case.
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Speaker 3: Not pudging the roster, as somebody who's been on the
54:05
Speaker 3: phanomi l they're not fudging the playoff roster. You gotta
54:10
Speaker 3: you're gonna go through a lot more channels to be
54:12
Speaker 3: able to pudge a roster in the postseason.
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Speaker 9: I wanna get hurt, can come back, fracture Griff Robert,
54:34
Speaker 9: All right, let's slap quick crats, hats.
54:40
Speaker 6: Nice, that's it. I'm here with my buddy K Pizzle
54:43
Speaker 6: Drizzle from the Sizzle.
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Speaker 1: I have a question for k Pizzle.
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Speaker 2: Skip Schumacher was just introduced to as Rangers manager. We
54:50
Speaker 2: all saw that one coming. But are you excited for
54:53
Speaker 2: him to lead the charge?
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Speaker 6: Now?
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Speaker 5: Am I excited for?
54:58
Speaker 6: What? For? Skin?
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Speaker 5: I'm not there anymore.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Skip.
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Speaker 5: I think I think I know, Yeah, I'm excited for Skip.
55:07
Speaker 5: I like Skip a lot as a human. He was
55:09
Speaker 5: around a ton. I think he got kind of the
55:11
Speaker 5: short end of the stick in Miami. And you know,
55:16
Speaker 5: he's in a good place. He's in a good place.
55:17
Speaker 5: See he's you know, took a year off, learned the organization.
55:22
Speaker 5: I think he's the right guy for the job considering
55:24
Speaker 5: what they're talking about. Obviously they have a lot of
55:26
Speaker 5: big contracts they have, but they're gonna have to fill
55:29
Speaker 5: that roster with a lot of younger guys to to
55:31
Speaker 5: kind of bring payroll down. I think Skip has a
55:34
Speaker 5: history what he did in Miami getting the best out
55:36
Speaker 5: of those young guys. So I think he's the right
55:38
Speaker 5: guy for the right I think he's the right guy
55:40
Speaker 5: at the right time where this organization is heading.
55:43
Speaker 2: I didn't see the press conference, but saying you want
55:45
Speaker 2: to establish a winning culture for a team that won
55:47
Speaker 2: two years ago, Skip, you might want that one back.
55:51
Speaker 1: Like obviously I love Skip.
55:53
Speaker 5: But I but I think that's been kind of the
55:55
Speaker 5: big I think that's kind of been the big issue there.
55:57
Speaker 5: There's been it's been an excuse year after year, we
56:01
Speaker 5: want a World Series, but the culture isn't about winning
56:03
Speaker 5: right now, so I think I think what he's saying
56:05
Speaker 5: is valid.
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Speaker 3: I agree, and he did it in Miami with no personnel.
56:11
Speaker 3: It's a thing. It might be a generic comment, but
56:14
Speaker 3: I agree with KP.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not a winning team. It's a culture that
56:19
Speaker 5: he created, so I think it's fair.
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