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Spooky Nostalgia · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Danielle Harris from some of the Halloween movies,
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  Speaker 1: and you are listening to Movie Meltdown. Good evening.
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  Speaker 2: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 2: and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 4: Kilowatts of power. provide more cooling in the containment chamber. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you know what they say, cold hands, warm hearts.
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  Speaker 1: Boys and girls of every age Wouldn't you like to
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  Speaker 1: see something strange? Come with us and you will see
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  Speaker 1: This our town of Halloween This is Halloween, this is.
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  Speaker 5: Halloween Hope you'll stay with the dead all night This
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  Speaker 5: is Halloween, everybody may see Don't.
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  Speaker 1: Cheat, don't behave, it's gonna die of fright This our
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  Speaker 1: town of Halloween This town of Halloween What's up and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and joining me this week.
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  Speaker 5: Is Steve Vessel of the Louisville Gore Club.
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  Speaker 1: We're coming to you live via digital recording from outside.
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  Speaker 5: It's weird. I made him do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little strange, but I was, I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like, I forget about these times going
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  Speaker 1: back hundreds of years when I was in school and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, Mr. Meltdown, can we have class outside today?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, You kids settle down. We've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work to do. We'll stay right in here.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Meltdown. So I don't have to do that. Professor Meltdown. Doc,
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  Speaker 5: I go by.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I was like, yeah, actually, it's not bad out. Now,
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  Speaker 1: for being our creepy Halloween episode, you'd think it'd be chilly.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been like, I don't know, pushing 90 today.
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  Speaker 1: So it once again proves that the scariest thing this
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: October is that The world is ending. So, I think
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: we're slowly grinding to a halt on this planet.
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  Speaker 5: It's okay. It was green and bowling green in Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is interesting on the, actually, this has got
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  Speaker 1: to be true because it was on a commercial, but
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  Speaker 1: it was an insurance commercial that was like, it's talking
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that those things, those giant like horrible
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  Speaker 1: catastrophes and like natural disasters that only happen like once
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  Speaker 1: every 500 years, this perfect whatever would come together to
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  Speaker 1: be this horrible thing and kill a bunch of people.
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  Speaker 1: Every couple of months we have one of those now.
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  Speaker 5: I love raptures.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, we might. Yeah, end of days, people.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But that will not stop us from creepily hanging out
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  Speaker 1: here in the creepy outside where there could be murderers
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  Speaker 1: and killers about and talking about horror movies.
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  Speaker 5: That's okay. I've got a knife.
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  Speaker 1: I carry a blade at all times.
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  Speaker 5: I carry a blade. Just in case. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I was thinking as I was walking outside to
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  Speaker 1: get here.
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  Speaker 5: Fucking sun.
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  Speaker 1: It gives me time. Well, thank God the sun's going down.
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  Speaker 5: It's going down.
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  Speaker 1: I would burst into flames. I'm not allowed to go
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  Speaker 1: out in the sun. Creature that I am. But I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to think as we were, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go to some sort of crazy horror
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  Speaker 1: talk like we do most of the time when I
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  Speaker 1: see you. I was trying to think like what was
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  Speaker 1: my initial reaction and or like what was my experience
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  Speaker 1: my exposure to horror? Do you actually remember the first
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  Speaker 1: horror thing, if not that you saw, that you remember
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  Speaker 1: seeing that made an impact on you?
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  Speaker 5: Film or just period?
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with both.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Whichever you want to start with.
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  Speaker 5: I remember distinctly, actually. My mother and father were very open,
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  Speaker 5: and cable was new. Ah, that kind of open. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we were always the first family to have cable. I
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  Speaker 5: remember all that. I remember the countdown for MTV and
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  Speaker 5: all that crap. But Terror Train was the first film
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  Speaker 5: they let me actually sit in the room with them,
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  Speaker 5: besides sneaking down the... Of course, of course. But I
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  Speaker 5: vaguely remember that, kind of like sneaking down and hiding
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  Speaker 5: underneath the sofa, because you could fit back then.
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  Speaker 7: And they didn't have a motorized unit.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right. Terror Train. And I remember trying to get
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  Speaker 5: back under the sofa.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Away from the train.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. It freaked me the hell out. And
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  Speaker 5: on top of that, like I said, they were awesome parents.
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  Speaker 5: And so my dad liked to hide in the closets. Nice. Hallways,
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  Speaker 5: doorways with his mask on.
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  Speaker 1: Tormenting children, sure.
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  Speaker 5: And they were ready for me when that happened. They
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  Speaker 5: were like giggling away like little kids, watching me squirm.
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  Speaker 5: probably cry if i i don't remember that but i'm
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  Speaker 5: pretty sure my mom said i was a cry baby
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  Speaker 5: for a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: This was the same terror train night where this was
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  Speaker 1: this was the exact same night okay okay.
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  Speaker 5: So they did all that stuff anyways but then they
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  Speaker 5: were like you know have a seat this is gonna
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  Speaker 5: be fun for you.
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  Speaker 7: The setup oh my god yeah yeah it.
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  Speaker 5: Was brand new on cable at that time you know
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  Speaker 5: it took almost a year for it to come out
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  Speaker 5: yeah on cable back then and uh Yeah, they were
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  Speaker 5: just waiting and waiting and waiting, which unbeknownst to me,
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  Speaker 5: my father goes to get his mask and hide in
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  Speaker 5: the closet, and I'm trying to run away. My mom's
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  Speaker 5: just giggling away, and then here comes my father.
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  Speaker 1: Bam!
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I hate you now. But that's the
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  Speaker 5: one that I remember the most, because it's the first
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  Speaker 5: film they allowed me to watch, and I thought, this
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  Speaker 5: is going to be great. Popcorn. Yeah. You know? Milk,
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  Speaker 5: because that's what I drank.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you are crazy. That explains your crazy, out-of-control lifestyle now.
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  Speaker 5: And, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Milk.
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  Speaker 5: Milk.
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  Speaker 1: Hit me, bartender.
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  Speaker 5: Milk. Milk me. Oh, my gosh. That's Back to the Future.
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  Speaker 1: That's going on in the park over here, but it's
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  Speaker 1: over there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't have... I kept thinking. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I've always been into horror, and I don't... I kind
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  Speaker 1: of remember my first movie that I attached to, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it's every standard kid that grew up in
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  Speaker 1: our age range or every age range after that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I saw Star Wars in the theater. So I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: You can almost, I guess, say, like, cantinas, and those
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  Speaker 1: are creatures and Wookiees.
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  Speaker 5: Werewolf was in there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, there's definitely a werewolf in there. There's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of demons. So I remember that, but I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to think of, like, years later, I remember really
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  Speaker 1: being fascinated by horror, and I'm trying to think, what
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  Speaker 1: was the first stuff? And it may... Again, it may
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  Speaker 1: be as classic as Universal stuff, because I do remember
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  Speaker 1: we were one of those that, much like you, had
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  Speaker 1: cable before most other people, which I think I've brought
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  Speaker 1: it up on the show before. We had something called
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  Speaker 1: Super Channel first. Do you remember Super Channel?
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  Speaker 5: I remember.
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  Speaker 5: If I remember correctly, it was the first cable box
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  Speaker 5: that we ever got. It may have been Super Channel,
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  Speaker 5: but I remember it being cable, which was an eight-button
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  Speaker 5: box with a switch going from top to bottom of
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  Speaker 5: the row. We had that.
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  Speaker 1: This, I think, was pre-official cable because it was almost
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  Speaker 1: like a dish.
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  Speaker 5: They got a budget.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no. I don't even know. Again, they don't have
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  Speaker 1: any money. They don't have any money now. They're as
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  Speaker 1: poor as I am. But I think it was one
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  Speaker 1: of those, like, this is our expense. Shut up. We're
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  Speaker 1: watching this movie or whatever. So at some point, they
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  Speaker 1: had decided to get Super Channel, which was this new
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  Speaker 1: brand new thing in the town that we still live in.
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  Speaker 1: And it was basically just a giant ass antenna. Because
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  Speaker 1: I remember as a kid looking at it, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: nobody else in the neighborhood had it. And we had
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  Speaker 1: this giant antenna mounted on the top of our house.
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  Speaker 1: And like it got one channel. Like again, it was
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  Speaker 1: all channel. It was super channel. And it got, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: whatever first run to cable. Again, none of these things
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  Speaker 1: meant anything at the time because there was no straight
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  Speaker 1: to cable. There was no first run to the theater
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  Speaker 1: and then cable. They just started figuring this crap out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess at that point they were doing like
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  Speaker 1: whatever they got a hold of, whoever they signed to
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  Speaker 1: a deal. So it was much like those early days
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  Speaker 1: of like the movie channel that you got like 12
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  Speaker 1: movies and it just looped them. And for a month,
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  Speaker 1: you had those 12 movies, which is probably why I
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  Speaker 1: watched as many dumb things as I always watch. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had that initially, but I barely remember specifics of
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  Speaker 1: stuff I saw on there. We pretty quickly, because again,
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  Speaker 1: I think that wasn't great, and I think we got
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  Speaker 1: rid of it within that first year or so. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if there was a binding contract involved, but
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly, I think we switched to, by then, Cable
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  Speaker 1: had moved in. And we, I'm trying to think of
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  Speaker 1: the first one. The first one, I think, still had
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  Speaker 1: the buttons.
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  Speaker 5: The push buttons. It was the push button, like four
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  Speaker 5: buttons on top and bottom, and then like a little switch,
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  Speaker 5: they went from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly after that, I knew somebody else, and I went
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  Speaker 1: over to their house, and they had the slide.
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember that was after well before that was
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  Speaker 5: the big knob the.
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  Speaker 1: Big knob well we i we had the knob forever
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  Speaker 1: yeah like we had the for years and years we
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  Speaker 1: always had the knob but i think maybe it was
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  Speaker 1: just different neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 7: Because they had a slide happened it was a big
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  Speaker 7: deal box they had the slide yeah it would light
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  Speaker 7: up still had like the line to it but they
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  Speaker 7: had that before we had the knob i feel like
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  Speaker 7: i feel like we still had just gotten away from
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  Speaker 7: push buttons And then they had the slide and we
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  Speaker 7: got the big ass knob that just that's the way
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  Speaker 7: it was for like 15 years.
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  Speaker 1: After that, like until they finally went, hey, everybody's stealing cable.
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  Speaker 1: We got to make this more difficult.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, then you use a butter knife and then get
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  Speaker 5: whatever channels.
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  Speaker 1: Or you jam that screwdriver into the box trying to
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  Speaker 1: get the special channels to come in. The money channels.
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  Speaker 1: The channel that I'm like, but there's a stupid wavy
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  Speaker 1: line in the middle and I can't see boobs. This
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  Speaker 1: is terrible.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, you would eventually.
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  Speaker 1: My, yeah. Which again is why. But that's what I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say. I really did kind of. I
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  Speaker 1: think about it now, and I almost want to question them.
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  Speaker 1: I need to have an episode where I just sit
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  Speaker 1: my mom down and go, why? Why was I just
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  Speaker 1: allowed to watch whatever the hell I wanted?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: But I did. I don't ever remember them going... Not
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  Speaker 1: by the time I was... even like not like less
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  Speaker 1: than 12. I don't ever remember there being like rules. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't watch it. Like when I was really little,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there was, they're not horrible parents, but
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  Speaker 1: like they're got it to a point where I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was self sufficient. It was, I mean, that was
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  Speaker 1: the days nobody parented like they do now. They weren't,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't.
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  Speaker 5: You hope.
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  Speaker 1: There weren't helicopter parents. There weren't even glider parents. It
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  Speaker 1: was just like, go do your shit. I got to
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  Speaker 1: go to work.
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  Speaker 5: That reminds me of the incident we had a family
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  Speaker 5: reunion or a birthday. I cannot remember. And I was
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  Speaker 5: talking about the movie Porky's.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: And my cousin freaked out and ran into the kitchen
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  Speaker 5: in front of all my aunts and uncles and said,
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  Speaker 5: Aunt Gail, I cannot believe you let Steve watch Porky's.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, what?
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  Speaker 1: Again, like when you're a horse, you don't know the
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  Speaker 1: difference though.
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  Speaker 5: I may have been eight.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about it myself until I think it
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: was when we started doing this show and other people
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: were talking about, I don't know, I wasn't allowed to
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  Speaker 1: watch that. And I was like, wait, was there a
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  Speaker 1: time I wasn't allowed to watch anything on cable? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, No, like I just.
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  Speaker 5: No, mom worked nights and dad ran a video store
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  Speaker 5: and a convenience store. Remember those convenience?
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  Speaker 1: Like combo?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was going to say. It was
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  Speaker 1: a convenience store.
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  Speaker 5: With a video store in the back with like, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to ask because you mentioned it recently
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  Speaker 1: when I saw you at an event that we can
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  Speaker 1: go into later. But you mentioned that and I kind
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: of wanted to go, wait, which one? So, like, did
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  Speaker 1: it have a cool name, or was it just like
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  Speaker 1: a generic convenience?
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  Speaker 5: It was a convenience. It was convenience.
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  Speaker 1: Convenience, the actual... Yeah, I do remember those.
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  Speaker 5: Remember those?
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  Speaker 1: I do remember those.
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  Speaker 5: That's what it was, yes.
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  Speaker 1: And that came shortly after the fun that was the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 7-Elevens of the rest of the world, but
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  Speaker 1: we had a convenient March.
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  Speaker 5: You could still rent video players, and they came in
• 12:42
  Speaker 5: big plastic suitcases.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in the beginning, you just had the convenience store,
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  Speaker 1: and then they got on the bandwagon pretty quickly of like, oh...
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  Speaker 1: People are coming here anyway, and this movie thing might
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  Speaker 1: just take off. So they were probably one of the
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  Speaker 1: first places I saw that weren't meant to be that,
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  Speaker 1: that like latched onto it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because as time went on, then it became like the
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  Speaker 1: tanning salon video store was so... Like, you saw that
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  Speaker 1: in so many knockoffs.
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  Speaker 5: It's in trancers.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay. It's like both businesses. You don't really have
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  Speaker 1: to have anything but enough money to buy the equipment.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be trained in how to run
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  Speaker 1: a tanning booth. That's why people got, like, cancer and died.
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  Speaker 5: What level of death?
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  Speaker 1: They're just like, here, crank this. It's the same knob
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  Speaker 1: that the old cable box, I think. They just crank
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  Speaker 1: it up and lit people on fire. And the same
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  Speaker 1: thing with, like, you didn't have to have training to
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  Speaker 1: run a video store. If you were a mom and
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: pop and you were like, I think that looks like
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  Speaker 1: a thing that could make money. Because half of them
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  Speaker 1: weren't even, like, into movies. It was just, like, a
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  Speaker 1: business opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: That sort of popped up in the 80s. It was like, hmm,
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  Speaker 1: do you have a little disposable income? Would you like
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: to be your own boss? And you just went out and, like,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: rented a local place and, like, loaded up on as
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: many as you could afford to get. Which some of
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: those little ones... little tiny ones.
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  Speaker 5: But they found some of the most specific movies. It's
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  Speaker 5: where I got to see Re-Animator, Phantasm II, things like that.
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  Speaker 5: Make Them Die Slowly. I was like, what is that box?
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  Speaker 1: It is. I mean, it is one of those and
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  Speaker 1: that's the more I keep thinking about it. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: I remember, because I jumped away from my, I remember
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  Speaker 1: as a kid watching.
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  Speaker 5: It was before Roadrunner and all of that. They were
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  Speaker 5: like huge. Oh yeah, the chains. Those were great because
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  Speaker 5: they had the dark rooms.
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  Speaker 1: Everything. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I rarely went in there.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking about. Of course, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably true. I think it's an intimidating room. You
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  Speaker 1: have to go through the curtain. The beads are really
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: cool when the beads, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Those little gas stations that started doing that are the
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: same little gas stations that started dying out that you
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  Speaker 5: could buy, you know, a dollar VHS box of them.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, my God. And you did. Hell, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I did. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Found a few reasons. I don't even have a player anymore.
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  Speaker 5: What is the first VHS you ever were able to
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  Speaker 5: either still money or save up or whatever to buy?
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  Speaker 1: The for real pre- because I bought, I have both.
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  Speaker 1: I have the first blank one I bought specifically to
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: tape a movie on.
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  Speaker 5: You still have it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a box somewhere. I guarantee, I still have so, again,
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about it a lot lately. I've been moving
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: for years now and I've moved my stuff so many
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: times over the umpteen years it's been going on now.
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  Speaker 1: And like, I've got boxes big ass square oddly shaped
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: like ones that vhs tapes used to come in in
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: suncoast i have the actual boxes loaded with vhs tapes
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: because i had so many like pre-recorded ones that the
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  Speaker 1: funny thing is.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: Not our push record did all the commercials was like
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: yeah when amc was amazing to eight.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Hours worth of nonsense yeah and like the sad thing
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: is number one i don't have a functioning vcr at
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: this point Number two, I don't think any of those
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: would work. Towards the end, they've made them where they
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: didn't even have adjustable tracking. That auto-tracking bullshit didn't work.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: So anything I had from that first run, when I
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: would still play it, even 20 years ago, it wouldn't
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: work anymore. You could kind of make... Again, I had
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the wavy line in the middle. I still couldn't see
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: my naked girl. But it still wouldn't play right. So
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I'm still lugging these things around in boxes, and I'm going,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I can't even use these for anything. So I finally
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: found something to do with my pre-recorded ones.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: So what was the very first one?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: But the very first one, once I realized, hey, we've
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: got cable. Hey, we bought a VCR. This is amazing.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I can record a movie. And again, I always went
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to movies because I'm a dork. And as much as
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I eventually would tape some TV.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: That's why we know each other.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: It was mostly movies for me. So like my initial one,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Misty Will Be So Proud, I specifically bought my first
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: blank VHS tape to record Beastmaster. Whoa. My very first...
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: thing that I pushed record and kept for my very
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: own and it's still sitting in a box somewhere.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: To be goofy, which station did you get it off of? Showtime?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: We had Spotlight. Do you remember Spotlight? At some point
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: before it went under. I know because I had a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Spotlight t-shirt at one point. It was like their promo.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: It was just little lights that spelled out. I need
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to find that again and just put it in a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: case like a geek.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Don't touch that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: That's a 30 year old movie t-shirt that nobody knows
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: What's that? Don't touch.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so I do specifically remember we had movie
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: channel most of the run of us having cable when
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I was still living there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: That was the very first one I remember. Then HBO,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: and I thought the Spotlight became Showtime, but I could
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: be wrong.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because I thought Spotlight came and went
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: pretty quick. I thought it was something.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Well, that's just it. I don't remember. It might have
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: been transitional. Maybe we just replaced it with Showtime. It
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: may have been transitional, and then Showtime moved in. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: then Skinamax.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Showtime's still on, so. Yeah, eventually. But yeah, that and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: movie channel was also one of the I can't keep
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: skipping the very first one. But because I used to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: watch even outside of the cable, we had cable. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I remember like our local I don't even know if
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it was the local channel or even like the wave
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: three like network. on like Friday nights or something would
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: run like old horror movies.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: So I do remember. The anticipation.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: We had the Fright Night guy that did it on 41,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: but we also, I thought at one point they did
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it on.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: That's the one I'm talking about where the guy would
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: walk the streets and then he would talk to you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: You never saw his face. And then he just disappeared
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: at the desk.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And watch.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And his whole thing was the anticipation. Anticipation. The anticipation.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: And the title of that show escapes me, but my
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: mother would sit me down and she'd call them, let's
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: go watch The Spookies.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: The Spookies.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, and that's when I saw Creatures from Black Lagoon
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: in 3D and House of Wax and all of that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking might have been the early
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ones because I do remember watching those. And even as
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I got older, I would seek it out because I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: remember specifically trying to get away from my sisters and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: hide in my room so I could go watch The
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Mummy's Hand. It was like a horrible prepubescent girl slumber
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: party going on. And they were trying to torment me
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: because I was there. And like, so I was trying
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to escape and I took my tiny, and again, kids
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: out there, this will blow your mind. Like my TV
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that I had in my room at the time was
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: five inches. Like it's literally like this big on my
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: jam box, mind you. And that's how I was watching
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: the mummy's hand in the dark, laying on the floor
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: in my room.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I've tried to explain to people, like when you are
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a kid at that point and you watch black and
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: white television, somehow your brain makes it color. And you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: don't realize it until either you go into the living
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: room or go to a friend's house. That's how I felt.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I just watched a lot of it because we... I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: didn't even notice it. I think we had. Yeah, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: think we had. We always... from most of my memory,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: had a color TV. But we had like a 13-inch
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: black and white one that sat in the other room.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: We were obviously very rich with two televisions.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: We had the console and the TV on top of
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: the console.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Eventually, we had that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: I think every poor, dumb American family.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we had the big giant, which I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: wish we had that now. Like, I'm the kind of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: dork who never... goes back and wants to get old
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: TVs I went to a farm recently and they had three.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: Of them well I was like holy crap T and
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: J have like five in their living room.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh it was a farm party for a
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: birthday Yes, we're in Kentucky. And I was like, holy crap,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: you've got three console televisions with stereos in them.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so every poor family, that's what you did. You
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: had the console. And then like, what, are you going
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to go buy a TV stand? No, you got a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: console sitting right there. So when it goes out, which
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: ours eventually did, we then parked the same size television
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: on top of the console unit. And, oh. What a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of losers we were.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I wouldn't trade it for anything.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. But it's so lame. Yeah.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: When I think about it now, I'm like, how trashy
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: is this? And there's another thing.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Do you remember, maybe I'm remembering wrong because my memory sucks.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: It really does.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: It's all that milk.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Wasn't Movie Macabre Elvira's show in the middle of the
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: week at one point? Like on a Wednesday? It was
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: before like the silk stockings things when they would do
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: like the sexy night TVs. They had Elvira and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: remember seeing her in the middle of the week. You know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: at midnight and, you know, had a.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Again, it's one of those.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Before they moved her to a different station.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I don't... That's the thing. I'm trying to remember the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: same thing of, like, when was the first time? Like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Elvira was kind of always around, but I don't... I
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: didn't see a ton of it. Like, I think I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: knew of her as a personality. I knew that she hosted,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: but I think... I feel like for a while we
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: weren't getting it in this city.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I saw her every day at the convenience store next
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to the Coors Light.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a different thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Five foot standee, I'm like, okay.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Shortly after, I was wearing my Elvira t-shirt, which I
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: still have because I'm a dork. And yeah, so I
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: was totally like on board with Elvira. But I do
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: feel like there was a, I didn't get a lot
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of the Elvira hosting that a lot of people grew
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: up with.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I just couldn't remember if it, maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: I was maybe trying to get confirmation.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Again, I feel like it maybe came and went. Because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it is one I feel like there was a long
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: period where we just didn't get Elvira here.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: The dry county.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: That we are. We did get Joe Bob on the
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: movie channel, though.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. That I've referenced
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: many times over the years.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Everyone remembers Monster Vision, but if you got those early days.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I was driving theaters.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: It was even better.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I was, yeah. The early run. And it was one
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of those. I still reference that with my... my autographed
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Joe Bob photo that I got granted. I saw him
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like a few weeks ago at a convention, but like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't get anything. Then I have mine from when
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I was, I don't know, 12 and I wrote you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and I was like, your show is awesome. Like, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he sent it back and I've still got that same one.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've gotten one since then.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Cause I'm like, I've got that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I got mine. Like that one's more important. Like, so
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: it's him on the old movie channel set for, for
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: drive in theater. And it's, it is one of those, like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I do remember the first time I saw that and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: it was just like, what is not just the movies
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: but i think that's another one of those key moments
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: of what led me to this right of like hosting
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: horror films what was it it was a whatever it
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was a guy who sat around and talked about movies
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and i don't think i realized it at the time
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: but when i think back now i'm like that's one
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of the it's like right around that same time i'm
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: getting into joe bob and like middle of the damn
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: night for some reason is when they ran Siskel and Ebert.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: So it's like those three guys, like I remember just
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: being fascinated with watching those two argue amongst themselves about movies.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And then Joe Bob would find the weirdest shit and like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and have all these facts about it yeah and would
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: sit there and just talk about it like it was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: normal and like normal people in the world didn't do
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that so.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: I'm like who made you want to be knowledgeable about
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: films before the Tarantino effect took place in the 90s
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: that was the guy that made me think I want
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: to know who did the lighting I want to know
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: all that stuff Cinefantastic that kind of stuff did too
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: but Joe Bob made me like, wow, it's cool to
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: be a nerd, even though there's like four of me
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: in the whole neighborhood.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember anybody like that. When I think back,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I hated Siskel and Ebert because they hated every movie
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I liked, but I mean, a couple they did.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Even at the time I liked them, even when I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: knew I didn't agree with a lot of their stuff,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: but I was just like.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: What else do you have?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, I think I was just fascinated. I'm like,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: they're so freaking smart. like I was a dumb kid
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: so I was just like listen to the way they
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: talk about this stuff I'm like they're so schooled in
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: it and I'm like there was but.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Those three cats made me want to be knowledgeable it's.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Planting that seed that I was just like I want
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that like I don't know how exactly little did I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: know all it took was devoting every moment of my
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: life to watching crap.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: And like Well, like picking up your very first Fangoria. Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Starlog was cool, all that, but Fangoria.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Fangoria?
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I picked it up in another convenience store at the
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: top of my street. A different one? It was totally different.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Does your dad know about this?
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because my mother and my father are split, so
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: it was totally different.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Well, then it was like, screw you, Dad.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Different ends of town.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Buy my magazines wherever I want.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Well, I would borrow money from my mother, and she would, whatever. Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: But I remember that first episode.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Again, I.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Issue of a fangle that I ever picked up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Dragged, digging.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: What the hell is this?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Digging through all my crap, because I did have... I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: had some Starlogs pretty early on. The one I remember
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that was, again, kind of a weird formidable as this
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: level of movie geek that I am, there was one that...
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I think it was like Cinefantasia.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Cinefantastic was great. If you could find them, I could
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: only find them at the Dun Dun Dun Great Escape.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was, yeah, that's the first place
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I think I ever saw one.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: I used to take the bus down there to get it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: When it was next to the Erexus-y, when they were
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: like side by side.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the tiny little spot that Erexus-y was.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: That was a golden place for like magazines was Erexus-y
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: had like the metal health and all, or mental, whatever
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: the hell it was called. Metal maniacs and all that stuff.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, and then. Freaking Great Escape had
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: all of the nerd magazines. I would have to like sucker.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: My parents into taking me there because I've been going
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: to Great Escape, which is just a comic book shop
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: for you guys. Before it was the most common thing
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in the world for, first of all, there to be
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: geeks and nerds who like comic books and places to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: go by them that were like successful and well lit
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and chains. And like, instead it was just like a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: weird little hole in the wall kind of a place.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And you, you know, dorks like us would wander in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and be like, Oh my gosh, look at all. Like
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it would blow your mind. So like, yeah, it was
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: one of those, that was the only place I knew
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of as a kid. And I had to like, it
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: would be like a yearning in me. Like I hadn't
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: been in like a month because again, I didn't, I didn't,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I guess I just didn't take the bus that young.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And like, I didn't, live close enough to hit it
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: with the bike so I was just like shit I
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have to convince somebody to drive me to this place
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and like it was always such a chore when you're
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a kid because then I'm like I don't even want
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: to tell them where because then they're going to think
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I'm stupid because I want comic books and they're stupid
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: because comic books are cool we.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Were in 6th or 7th grade and we would take
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: the bus and go to the Great.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Escape eventually I would just be like I would bug
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: them enough they were like where the hell do you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: want to go and I'd be like I want to
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: go to the comic book store so I would go
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: there and then again that's where I first saw Cinema
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Fantastique And then there was like an offshoot one, though,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that I got at Walden Books. So it was a
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: little more readily available. So I can't remember if it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: was them or it was the same publisher. Oh, believe me,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I did more than enough mall time. Thank you. Basher
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Manor is no more. But I hung out there quite often.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Aladdin's Castle or whatever it was.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I was playing my spy hunter. It was so awesome.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: But they had like an offshoot version.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: You're fucking old.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Very.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I'm old.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You're fucking old. Thousands of years old. But they had
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: an offshoot that was like a full size. It wasn't
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: like the squatty version that was. But it was a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: specific behind the scenes... not just like how they make movies,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: but how you can make stuff that was like, yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: way more than like the, cause the other one was
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: like fancy high end studio. Like this is how they
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: made this monster. And like, this was, here's this terrible
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Roger Corman movie. His stuff already looks relatively bad, but
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: if you get like some cardboard tubes and some duct tape,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you can make your version that looks only slightly worse.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So I do remember seeing that and going, wait, you
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: can make this stuff? Again, I knew it wasn't real,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: but it hadn't occurred to me that I could make
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: this crap. So I then remember getting them and going like, okay,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: here's this effect where you can make it look like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you got shot with an arrow in your movie. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really have a camera, but let's
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: pretend like I do and use this. So we technically
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: had a Super 8, but I did little, I had
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: some experiments with Super 8, but it wasn't until I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: got a VHS years later. And even that was never...
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I need to be more focused on my.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Filmmaking, I suppose.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But I do remember as a kid, I bought an
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: arrow specifically to saw it in half and work it
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: into a belt so you could put it through a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: shirt and make it look like there was an arrow
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: sticking out of you. I had that some... I probably
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: still have that arrow somewhere.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, that'd be great.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I also was... There was one where you could build
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that creature from one of the terrible sci-fi corpsman movies
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of the knockoff Star Wars at that time. And so
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I do remember starting to make that like I got
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: pieces of cardboard and was like and I don't think
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I ever got far enough. So like eventually years later,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, yeah, this was going to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: be the eyeball for that creature I was building. So
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: this is the level of dorky movie geekiness that goes on.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I found I found the cast because I was going
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: to do the final crawl in our credits for our film.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: did it all on paper so we were just gonna
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: like crawl down this long and it was like a
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: fucking scroll and of course everyone had to have name
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: changes a la like John Carpenter or whatever so you
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: know It was great.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Did you bill it as Steve's? Did you possession it
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: first like John Carpenter's?
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: So it wasn't mine. It was all of ours.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But you should have claimed.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. It was called Nightmare Forest, and there
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: was five people working on this thing as actors, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: it was like Evil Dead kind of like.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: But I looked at it, and I was like, wow.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: that's you know I love that and I hope people
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: are still doing that now.
• 30:04
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• 30:08
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• 30:13
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• 30:51
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• 30:57
  Speaker 5: What?
• 30:58
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• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Actually, now that you mention it, I'm drinking some fine
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: coffee here, but I feel like enjoying a nice hot
• 31:06
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• 31:09
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• 31:10
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• 31:34
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• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I've got nothing against your friends.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: I like your friends.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: You know, things have obviously changed for us.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I have to help Charles finish his movie. It'd be
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: good for you to spend some time with kids who
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: don't run around with cameras and monster makeup. Uh, could
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: you close your eyes, please?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And action! An eastbound freighter derailed what the cargo was
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: on that freighter.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: We can't tell anyone. I know. I understand you have
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: concerns about our cargo. Colonel, there isn't anything else that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I should know, is there?
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: I can assure you the answer is no.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: We've gotten calls from people who have found local dogs,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: but the calls coming in aren't local. Lucy! It's like
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they all just ran away.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: I've got property damage.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: I've got theft.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I've got nine people missing now. Look at the things
• 34:00
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• 34:03
  Speaker 1: We have to find this thing. I don't feel good.
• 34:22
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• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I saw it. No one believes me.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I believe you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: What the hell?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Somewhere between where you are and where you're going, there's
• 34:46
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• 34:46
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• 34:50
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• 35:02
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• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So, you guys know we're broke, right? We're always broke.
• 35:26
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• 35:29
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• 35:32
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• 35:35
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• 35:43
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• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Hopefully it
• 35:48
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• 35:50
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• 35:54
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• 35:58
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• 36:05
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• 36:13
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• 36:26
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• 36:40
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• 36:44
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• 36:44
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• 36:46
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• 36:48
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• 36:49
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• 36:51
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• 36:53
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• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a step below.
• 36:56
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• 36:57
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• 36:58
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• 37:01
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• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Raise your right hand.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And repeat after me.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: We are drive-in mutants.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: We are not like other people.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: We are sick. We are disgusting.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: We are disgusting.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: We believe in blood.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: We believe in blood. In breasts.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: In breasts.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And in beasts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: And in beasts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: This is Joe Bob Briggs and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: As long as one drive-in remains.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: As long as one drive-in remains. On the planet Earth.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: On the planet Earth.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: We will party like jungle animals.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: We will party like jungle animals.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: We will boogie till we puke.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: We will boogie till we puke.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: The drive-in will never die.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Amen. All right. It is one of those, I think,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: because I said at the time we didn't have a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: camera or we weren't doing it. I do remember about
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that same age. Like I was pretty damn young. I
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: hung out with, again, the closest thing to like friends
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a weirdo like me had was just the kids that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: happened to live around me. And we were all just
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: kind of forced together. Like when I think back, I'm like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot in common, any of us.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But we were just like, whatever, you live next door
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to me. This is who I play with. So I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: do remember at one point we had got this idea
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that we wanted, again, it was the times of storm.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Wars so like we wanted to make a sci-fi epic
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and her dad next door had a Super 8 camera
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: that I don't think had sound so who needs sound
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: well this was probably my genius idea because I had
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a tape recorder So we were going to take the old, again,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I'm describing it for you, the flat one that you
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: push record and play at the same time. I had that,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that every kid I think was issued at that era.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And I think we were going to run sound on
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that and we're going to shoot it with the Super
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: 8 and I'm sure it was going to sync up
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and look great. Thinking about that now, that's such a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: ridiculous idea. But we did like come up with like this,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if we even scripted it or
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we just like play acted it so much for like
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: weeks on end that we remembered our parts. So we
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: did have some version of costumes and one of them
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be like an alien. And of course,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I was some sort of Luke knockoff trying to think.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I think I named your robe again. I think. Well, no,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I probably had a vest of some sort.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: OK, you were old enough. OK, OK.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was I was old enough to have
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: production to what I'm trying to think we had. I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't think we had much in the ways of special effects.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I think it was just like in the leaves in
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the front yard of her yard next door. And where
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the kid from across the street was the alien. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: then he like jumped in at the wrong moment and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: screwed it up. And we didn't get extra takes. So like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I remember like we all were yelling at him some
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: point for ruining the take. But the thing is, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: don't either like it got messed up. Like, I don't
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: think the video ever even survived. Like, I don't think
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it ever came out the other end. But I had
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the tape because that's why I think that was my
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: idea because it was my tape recorder because I had
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the tape and I had the tape forever. So you
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: could go back like years later. I would be like,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: what the hell?
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And you could hear like whatever dumb dialogue we'd come
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: up with. And then us yelling at that kid.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: I was lucky enough to live in an apartment complex
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: with a bunch of nerds and a few of us
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: got together and we, we couldn't have, we didn't have
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: a camera at the time. So what we did is
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: we did our own audio versions of things. we would
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: do our own version of Siskel and Ebert because we
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: hated them. So we did. It was like Rick the
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Razor and Eric Steele. And instead of playing the film pieces,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: like clips, we would literally play, because we all collected soundtracks,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: we would play the piece of the soundtrack as if
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: you're watching the movie. And then we would review it
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: and we did commercials. I still have those tapes. Oh,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: my gosh.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Again, this is all leading.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: And we had two tape recorders. We'd push record on
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: one with the music going and have an intro and
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: the other guys. And we're ready to go.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And we could edit it as long as we wanted.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: This is production value, man. For 1987, I think it was. Yeah,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: it was great.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Again, I think I brought this up on the show.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: This is like domino effect of all the dumb things.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: That led to this. All we did was collect things
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: that we loved, so we had to act like we
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: didn't like certain movies.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Well, sure.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: So nobody liked, say, Phantasm, too.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Phantasm, stupid.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Or Hellraiser. Oh, my gosh. And of course we loved them,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: so we would flip a coin or do.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: You're the one that hates it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: You're the stupid one. One time I screwed up and said,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: I hate this movie. Ha, wait, I know I don't.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Because I couldn't remember.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And then they yelled at you for doing it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Who I was, yes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: We have to do another take. This is terrible.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: No, we just kept it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: See, I remember, again, this is maybe another most direct
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: link to this nonsense you're listening to right now. This
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: was myself and my cousin, and she was a few
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: years older than me, but she was a, I say was,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and currently still is a showbiz kind of a gal.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Like she knew it from day one. She went into
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: like dance classes. She moved into like teaching dance there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: She opened her own dance studio for God's sake. So
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: she knew showbiz.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: So the seed was there.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So it was in her already. I was like the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: dorky kid that didn't know how to do that stuff.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Like again, she was like, let's get on stage. And
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, can I run the lights? She really would.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: I would do the exact same thing.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: She would literally, at my grandmother's house, she'd be like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put on a show. And I'm like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hold this lamp towards you.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: I've got the lamp.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got this. Don't you worry. If we had ropes,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I'd be pulling them. But we didn't have a fancy,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I couldn't be a grip, much as I wanted to.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: But again, I think there was the technical aspect there
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that was already laying the groundwork. So ours became more of,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: when I think about it now, it was somewhere between
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: a variety show and a.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Infomercial wow or just like a skit comedy thing because
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: we again i'm using the same tape recorder i believe
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: so it became an audio show and that's why i'm
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: like what's the same dumb thing i'm doing now right
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: only this was again i try not to do bits
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: on here because it feels so and and it bothers
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: me when i see other shows that like that's their
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: whole thing is some sort of fake bit that they're
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: doing and they're putting on accents and i i can't
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: handle it i just i guess it is like i'm
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: fine with it in in the movie end of it
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: but somehow i'm leaving that's true but this but maybe
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's just me revolting against my younger self because that's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: more or less what we were doing we were taking
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: like you know it was the early days so there
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: was still variety shows and crap on tv so i
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: think there was a little of that because i wanted
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: like my own theme song for everything So which I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: think I just stole the Rocky and Bullwinkle like in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: theme because that is a great fucking song. So there's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the first that and then I think we were just
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: kind of mimicking all the others. So this SNL was
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: already a thing. So I think we're kind of ripping
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that off. I remember directly ripping off jokes from I
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Love Lucy, which shows you the kind of dorky kid
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I was. But yeah, and then we would do like
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: little segments and it would be like, here's two minutes.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it was like bad commercials. So it really
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was just like our own bad SNL thing. Only in
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: audio form. And we were dumb kids. And again, for
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: years I had that tape. And if I found that now,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it would probably be the most horrifying thing I would
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: ever have to listen to.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Let's go back to first. What was the first Halloween
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: costume you had? Tis the season.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Was it Ben Cooper?
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I believe I have discussed it on the show in
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the past.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, damn.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: But for you guys, you probably have died since then.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Those people don't listen anymore. So for anyone new, I
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: think the very first time that... It doesn't really count
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: when you have no say in it. When you're a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: little kid... Because then it's like some sort of hobo
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: or some shit. I don't know. They just put me
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: in the... As if I wasn't wearing enough god-awful stuff
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: when I look back at old photos of me.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: Or one that you thought was cool.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, the first one that I remember
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: having a hand in picking was kind of that same era.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: And I said it before. I bounced back and forth
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: between what became probably the two biggest influences in my life.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Star Wars characters and... Old school monsters. So I had
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the one that was the most awesome of the store-bought ones.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I had the Creature from the Black Lagoon that I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: hung on to forever because it was that awesome mask
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: that if I see them now, they're a fortune. So
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I wish it wouldn't have gotten smashed in our attic,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: which is where I saw it last many years ago.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: And the plastic.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: And the vinyl-y outfit that probably said Creature from the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Black Lagoon on it. I don't even remember what the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: hell it said on the chest. Usually they had words
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: on the chest, which was the dumbest thing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: I think it was almost yellow.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty generic.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Mine was Casper.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Casper's cool.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: I thought that was cool as hell. I was that tiny.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: And then, of course, Dark Vader. Dark Vader.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Was this a knockoff version?
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what the hell Darth Vader. Because I
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: was a child. And that's what Darth Vader did. That's
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: who he was.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I'm constantly like, do I correct?
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't have a VHS to watch at the time.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Well, none of us did.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: It wasn't an option.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And for 17 years, you were like, this is the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: only way I have to remember it. I have collector's cards.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Remember when he would take your child by the throat,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: by the jawbone, and pick them up.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: There's no way that would happen nowadays.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Did he sign a photo? Yes. I still have.
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Yes, me too. I do. I just moved.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I wonder if this was the same one. I think
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they did it different times.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Mine is like a white production still, and he's doing,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: he's got his hands on his belt line, which he
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: never does in the films until obviously the damn prequels.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: And he's standing there, and I'm like, as of now,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, that's a prequel pose. But he did
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: it for production still at that time. I still have it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: When I look back, mine is like so much worse,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: but yet kind of, so much more awesome. Because I'm
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: pretty sure, at least that was a production still. Or
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: something like 20th Century Fox probably made up.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked professional as hell.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: This one may have just been the dude they knew
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that had the suit. Some guy probably just spent all
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: of his money to buy a suit. Because it's not
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: like you could go get them in a store like now.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You can just throw down a couple thousand dollars and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: have a stormtrooper hanging around in your house. But back then,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you had to go get that level. Because it really
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: did look good, what little I can remember of it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: But I remember he was at the Basher Manor Mall,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: which is now turned into a parking lot and now
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: has like a Lowe's there and some shit. But like
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: at the time it was a mall and they were
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: doing their big signing. So like I got this photo
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: and I stood there and it was super cool. But
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: then when I looked at it like years later, it's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: him outside.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't remember that at all.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's a guy in a Darth... I'm assuming it's not
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: David Prowse. No. It's a guy in a Darth Vader costume.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: Empire Strikes Back actually came out when I went and
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: saw him at the Batch from Animal.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It might have been, yeah. Because I feel like I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: was a little older because I do remember this stuff.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: So it was probably more like Empire. But when I
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: look back at it, it's like him standing in the park.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: possibly this park right now it's him and there's like
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: trees behind it's like green it looks so surreal when
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: i look at it now because i'm like it's darth vader.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: Who you know it's indoor but before.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Indoor completely in black yeah we weren't used and he
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't really hanging out much on indoor so like we
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: never really see him out outside of like cold metal
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: behind him you know it's like that's the only way
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: we know him is just like steel everywhere behind him
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: or like a Hoth scene or maybe yeah the Hoth
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: scene was so freaking awesome because it's just white and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: this big black badass walking in and you're just like
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: oh my god this is the coolest thing ever so
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: when I look back on it and I'm just like
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: what the hell is this And he's got his arms
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: out almost like he's flying. He's almost doing the rose
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: on the front of the Titanic.
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's enjoying his cape.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: He's holding his cape out. That's what it was. They
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: were trying to do more of a Dracula, like, hold
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: your cape out. I'm sure some idiot, probably from the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Olin Mills at the mall, was like, let's go take
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: some pictures outside in the parking lot. It's so bad.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And he, no, now that I think about it, it
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: has to be post-Jedi because when this guy signed it,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I think I have previous meetings with Darth Vader when
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I was younger.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: You've met a lot of Darth Vader.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Because I have a poster somewhere that he signed that
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: it just says Darth Vader. What the fuck? Which I'm like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that's not really how autographs, never mind. But you signed
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a character, dude. But this one was kind of the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: same thing on that photo. Because I remember now when
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I think back, it said Darth Vader on the top.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But then it also said Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and Return of the Jedi. So he just wrote the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: random names of the movies on there. And at the bottom,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: underneath his feet in the grass, it says, May the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Force be with you. So I need to find that
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and put it back in a frame.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: That's not very Sith-like, but okay.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. Well, I mean... oh my goodness it's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a spiral the sith then that they just they neither
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: of them make any sense the jedi and the sith
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: they're weird.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: Those first uh halloween costumes those first vhs those first
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: time picking up a movie.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: So i but we got sidetracked i did have the
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: darth vader costume that was one of the ben cooper
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: ones i had so of my bouncing back and forth
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: i had creature we i had a I had a
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: couple of my mom made some really good costumes. So
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: she made an awesome, like to this day, if I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: find it, it's an awesome Dracula cape that was black
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: on the outside, like shiny satiny red on the inside.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: So it was like a nice blood effect inside. So
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that you could be kind of like totally covered up
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: in black and then throw your arms out and it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: creepy red.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: I made a Lydia cape for my daughter once. That's
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like the cartoon one. It was double.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: But she even put in a really awesome like pop-up
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: collar that like is the only time in the 80s
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I was popping my collar. But I was Dracula, so
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: it was okay. But yeah, I remember doing that with
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like tons of like white creepy makeup and blood on
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: my fangs and probably my bad pop-in plastic fangs. I'm
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: pretty sure that's what I did.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Those are so good though.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: They're awesomely terrible because they just cut the inside of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: your mouth. They were so terrible.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: I recently went through pictures while moving and I found
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: an old picture of one of my Christmas gifts and
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: it was the original Universal Dracula. Where you push the
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: button on the back and his arms would come together. Nice.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: Remember they came with the Frankenstein monster and the table?
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I didn't.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, those were amazing. They came with claws. They weren't Mingo.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Again, the things I wish I had. They may have
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: been Mingo.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: I don't remember. I wish I still had it, but
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I don't remember. It didn't come in like a bubble.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: So much of my crap I do still have, but
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: there are specific things that I think back and go,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: where the hell did that go?
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, I have one friend and we'll just name off stuff.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: He's like, I still got it. I still have it. Well,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: his parents are still together. Lucky guy. And they still
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: live in the same place. They've lived forever. So it's like,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: you know, a museum in his attic.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know it because that term.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Unlike us, we moved like every six months.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: That term didn't exist at the time, but I was
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and became a weird semi hoarder. The amount of stuff
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that I have that makes no sense that I look
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: through these boxes that I keep shuffling around. I'm like,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: what the hell do I have this? And like, I
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: don't throw it away, God forbid.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: No, I have every movie ticket I can remember ever keeping.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still, I mean, from, I mean, I've showcased
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: cinema wins from years and years.
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you saw me at the Rocky documentary filming.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: I still have the very first Vogue ticket for Rocky
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: that I ever went to.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have, I think all of those for mine too.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: There were a few I would like, because back then
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it didn't print out what it was. So I think
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: there were a few I would take a pencil and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: write like whatever the hell happened that night. I'm like,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the first time this dude I know played Riff Raff
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and like this was the first.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Piece from the newspaper and put it next to the ticket.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Still have that this is the level of.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Dorkiness oh man dorkiness yeah I appreciate we were crafting
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: we just didn't think about it that.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Way I appreciate finding other people that are this level
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: of dorky and specifically like movie related it's so yeah
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: more Halloween fun of my movie tie-ins we did another
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like weird sort of homemade but again i i realized
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: how much they were all just classic horror and you
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: to me universal monsters but i mean universal just stole
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: them from classic folklore and or novels anyway so this
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: was a werewolf one which was one of the few
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: rubber mask i got a it's a pretty thin rubber
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: mask that i got it probably kmart or whatever but
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: i wanted to like up the ante so like my
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Grandmother at some point had made some sort of furry costume. Again,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: probably- Making costumes is so great. Probably hand me down
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: from my cousin because I did get a couple of
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: weird versions from her that I then doctored into like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: mine's going to be a cool monster.
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: We didn't have Michael Myers masks. And one of my
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: best friends just painted a mask and everyone.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Knew who it was.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: Or a freaking hoodie. And I was like, it's Michael
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Myers because there was nothing else to reference it to.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: You couldn't buy it in the store. Hell no.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: Well, the 88, it didn't come out yet.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: So- Spencer's gift hadn't taken over the world. Oh, man. Man,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that's another one of those October memories.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Go to Target and be like, oh, there it is.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: But for a long time, people, it's funny now how
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: bankable Halloween is that they just totally get into it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: That's why finding those old tin lunchboxes that are vintage
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: is different from saying, no offense, a NECA one.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I bought at the store next to 48
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: others that look just like it with different pictures on
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the front.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: I just sold my original Gremlins... Yeah. A thermos and everything.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: I had a yard sale a couple years ago.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Or no, last week.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: One of the few that I had and.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: I cried.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: It kept in good.
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I feel for you. I feel like... I was surprised
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: it was in as good a shape as it was.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I have my Clash of the Titans lunchbox.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I was, again, one of the handful of dorks that
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: thought that was cool at the time.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Which one was it? Which one was on the front?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: It's got... It had a different on each side. It
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: had one that was... I think it's Hamlin when he's
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: holding Bubo, maybe? It's kind of a close-up of him.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: I remember that one.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: And then the other, I think, was maybe a shot
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: of him flying in to go attack the Kraken.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the one I remember.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I remember that on one side, but I feel like
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: the other had like a... It's kind of that puzzled
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: look of him going, what the hell is this metal bird?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: There's that weird look that he gets of like, what
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the hell is this? And I think that's the shot
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: they chose for the front of it. And it did
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: have like an artwork on the thermos that had him...
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: This was different. It was him... With the helmet on,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: which he has the helmet for so little of the movie.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the artwork had him with the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: helmet and holding the sword up or something. And it
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: was like a weird variation artwork that like I almost
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: never see now. So I need to dig this out.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: The thing about this time of year for us is
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: like nostalgia and people seem to be hating on nostalgia
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: right now. That's fine. But I love the memories of
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: going trick-or-treating when it's zero degrees outside and almost snowing.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Not the 90 it is today. And your hands are turning.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: Blue holding onto that damn pillowcase.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: And it was annoying because you were still a kid,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: so you still kind of had to abide by dumb
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: parental rules. So I'm just kind of like, I'm like, man.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: We trick-or-treated until the party stopped at 1 a.m.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: But there's still basic rules like it's freaking cold outside,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: get your coat. I'm like, fuck, Yoda doesn't wear a coat. Nope.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Because I was Yoda one year.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: And I specifically, in my walk home from school, cutting
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: through the creek, which I did pretty much every day,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I found this giant ass leg. It was about as
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: big around as my fist, this log that I referred
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to it as, which became my Yoda stick.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Because Yoda had to have a stick. So when I
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: walked around the neighborhood, in addition to my pumpkin, I
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: also had a giant freaking log because it was my
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Yoda walking stick because Yoda had a freaking cane.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: You had to accessorize.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: I had to be authentic. I had to add stuff.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Which I got sidetracked. So that was my werewolf, too.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I took that one up a couple of notches. The
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: first one I just got, which, again, probably had been
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: some sort of fancy fur coat for my cousin that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I then turned into a bastardized werewolf coat, which looked
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: cool when I remember. And then, again, I think I
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: suckered my grandmother into doing this because I had those
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: kind of gloves, like all your generic Halloween gloves. But
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: this one was at least sort of a tan color.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: And then someone, I'm assuming my grandmother... glued fur onto
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: the back of the hand, so I actually had furry hands.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Grandma.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Yep, shout out. She was an awesome grandma. But that's
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: what the costume was supposed to be. Again, I took
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it up a notch. I had to accessorize, being the
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: dork that I was. At that same time, don't know
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: if you had these, they had these, I don't even
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: remember what the hell they were called. They were just
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: like plastic glasses, but they had little light-ups, like two
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: LEDs in the eyes that lit up red. Whoa. I
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: got the brilliant idea of like, okay.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: That was high tech for me.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put, well, it just had a nine
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: volt battery and a trigger. Oh, okay, yeah. You just
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: hit it with your thumb and lit up whenever you
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to, which again, I just wore it around the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: house because I was a dork, and I thought that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: was really cool that I had light up eyes. That Halloween,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the genius thing, like a bolt of lightning, I was like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put those on first, then put my
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: mask on, and the werewolf is going to have light
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: up red eyes.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. I will say that's one of the few
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: times I remember- Usually, people wait on their porch and
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: try to freak out the kids. The parents would be
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: sitting on the porch, and I would come up, and
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: my eyes would start going. They'd be like, whoa. I
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: remember catching parents off guard with like, what the hell
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: is that?
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: That's amazing.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: That kid is possessed. What the hell?
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: The only thing that I remember, the level of trying
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: to make things different, adding to a costume. I took
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: when the very first Freddy Krueger deluxe masks came out.
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: I bought one of those. They had two different ones.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think back. Did it even look that good?
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was awesome. I feel like the first- It
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: was based off of the, I believe, the third one.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: Which is an awesome movie. Which sucked, but whatever. But
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: I took that mask. Because it was bald head and
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: added the hatchet scar and made mine into a Friday
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: the 13th. Yeah. I was like, oh, I'm leveling up.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: That is taking it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: To the next level. And I painted my own hockey mask.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: And I got, yeah. And I went to, there was
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: a mall in the middle of an industrial park called
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Bluegrass Parkway. And I cannot remember what it was called.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: But you could hit every store.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: That wasn't Raceland?
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: There was Westland and Raceland, and both of those are
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: like a nightmare mall when I think about them now. No.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: No, it's like, you know, where the softball fields are.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I kind of remember that.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Not too far from J-Town.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter, but it's all gone. It's all torn down.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Everything's gone. All of our childhood is torn away.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. Now it's probably a climbing wall place.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: But yeah, and I still have the, they took a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Polaroid picture of me and I looked like shit. but
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: uh only now i look back at the time you
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: look just my dad's plaid shirt that i cut the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: arms off because they were too long you know that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: you know god but that was my idea that was
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: my leveling up of a.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Costume at that time i do remember i.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: Didn't start making them making them until i would say
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: almost like the late late.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: 80s yeah i didn't make a ton until i was
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like grown like I feel like I got to that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: point where I was like I guess I'm not gonna
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: have stuff anymore so I kind of stopped a little
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: bit for a few like the high school years I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: think I didn't bother and then like once I was
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like I had a freaking job I remember like oh
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: now I've got dorky friends that work with me again
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: we're all gonna dress up and then I think maybe
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: one other person dressed up I don't know I think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I did it for like two years and went it
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: really sucks going to work in a costume it's bad
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: enough I have to go to work I don't want
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to go to work but it sucks having to go
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: in a costume as well so I think, yeah, there
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: was a big dry spell during those high school years
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: of like, it's not cool to dress up in costumes anymore.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Which now I'm just too lazy.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: I never did that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: It's just too much work.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: I never went through that phase. I'm so glad.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: And again, it might have just been like, eh, it's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: too much trouble. Which I still, I've landed on that now.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: No, we trick-or-treated until, what, 10th grade? And I remember
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: one of the last costumes.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: So you could drive yourself around?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was one of the misfits walking around the city.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: And we went to every door and they said, aren't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: you kind of big? I'll kick your ass.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: You're right, I am. That's why I can kick your ass.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: That's why you.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: Need to hit apartment complexes. So that you could get
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: double the candy. I was like, I'm old enough. We're
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: going to do this easy.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Did you have, were you dragging around, like most of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the old kids were dragging around with a pillowcase at
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we had to change it. We had to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: go back and get more pillowcases. Change out the pillowcase.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I was a dork because I always stuck with my pumpkin. Again,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: dork that I am. Not only do I still have it,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it's sitting in my room at home right now.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's amazing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Like when I moved, I was like, I've got a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: spot right here. What can I... Oh, man, I need
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: to see that pumpkin every day. So it is one
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: of those old plastic formed. Mine is so weird. It
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: has a hat on. Like it's not even the standard
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: round one. It's round pumpkin, but he's also wearing like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: a weird hat. And like he's got almost like reverse
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: faces on each side. Like it is one of those
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that they only made like in the freaking 70s. And
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I was just like... When I look at it now,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who would buy this weird thing for their kid?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: But again, my parents were just like, what do you want,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: that one? All right, good enough. Get your weird pumpkin
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and let's go. So yeah, it is sitting in my
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: bedroom right now. So that's, again, the level of Halloween
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: dork that I am.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's amazing. No, I wish I still had my
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: old pumpkins and jack-o'-lanterns.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: See, they got kind of generic after that because I
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: remember my sisters were younger and the ones they got
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: years later were way more generic. It wasn't that same
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: level of like, art history that I feel like when
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I see those from that era now, they're selling them
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: for like a hundred dollars because they really are like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a weird thing that they only made for that span
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: of a decade or so. And then they became more
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: generic plastic and a little more prefab and they cranked
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: out thousands of them. But like, I feel like those
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: ones that came out earlier are like super weird and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: like personalized because they only made limited runs of them.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm, I am glad I hung onto that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: But do you remember trick or treating until after midnight?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: We did. Again, I think we were dorks, so I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: didn't do that.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: We would go in the apartment complexes and we would
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: hear the party. It's like that scene out of Trick
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: or Treat. Like, you want anything? Do I?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, man. It was great, but they weren't trying to
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: change the day. If it fell on a Tuesday, I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: didn't care if I went to school the next day
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: or not.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: You weren't at the mall? No.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: You weren't in a parking lot trunk-retreating.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: We did. We did get looped into that one scare
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: where we took the candy to some place and had
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: it x-rayed. It wasn't the hospital, but it wasn't that.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: They did that. I remember that. I don't think we
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: ever did that. Because somebody got poisoned. Some asshole poisoned
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: his son. I forgot. It's like a family thing.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I remember that.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Like the reality of it. I remember that.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: Gosh.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: The more sad version because in reality it never happened.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: The way that they mythized it. No, no, no.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: They just blew it up.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: They blew it up to kill the Samhain. There's a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: little sound in all of this.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Try to destroy Halloween. But it didn't work because it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: came back and it is the biggest money maker ever.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: They put it out. People complain about Christmas decorations coming
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: out in October. Halloween comes out in July.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: That's why I start bitching when I'm like, no, no,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you keep your Christmas out of my, November, whatever. You
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: can put that shit out. I mean, Thanksgiving gets screwed anyway.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: It never has anything but some random turkey stuff. But like,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Keep your Christmas bullshit out of my Halloween.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: I totally understand until about a year ago when I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: started doing the Krampus celebration.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: That's its own bastardize in between spots.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: Because right now I can go and buy jingle bells
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: and blood at the same time.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: That is a magical time of year.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: We just did the Louisville Halloween parade. And I was like, well, okay,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: I got to put something together. I got to put
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: something that's Krampus. So let's do that. Here's blood and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: some jingle bells. That's exactly what we did. We did
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: that last year.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: And that giant log I was dragging around to hit
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: children with.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God. Yeah, Yoda blood. Yoda blood on your log.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: But that's what I was getting to earlier, too.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: I totally understand people's hate towards Christmas when it comes early.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I don't hate it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: What the hell?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I just want it in December.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: I celebrate Yule anyways, damn it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I want my Festivus in December. I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: don't want it crossing over and messing with my Halloween.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: But I do remember the– that's what I was saying earlier.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: Like, it was– The thing about now is at least
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: people now, in this day and age, they extend Halloween afterwards.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: There will be parties afterwards because they know there's so
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: many going on.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Especially if it falls in the middle of the week. Right.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: I have a friend that's doing an event like a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: week or two later. A few haunted houses stay open.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: You know, if they're smart guys, hello.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I feel like it is, a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: lot of it's just because it became a moneymaker, but
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it is sort of like that celebration that people are like, oh, no,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: this is awesome. I feel like it was kind of
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: dying there in the 90s, like they were sucking the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: life out of it, and then they got the adult-themed
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: version of it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: Well, they really dumbed it down with the really oversized,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: you know, swords made out of plastic and putting the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: orange caps on the guns and all that.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: But I think that's what saved it was the adult parties. Like,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: they started, like, when your Halloween stores started opening up
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: and adults went, Oh, we can have our own adult
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: wink wink party, which means every girl can just dress
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: slutty and then guys can get drunk. Or both. Again,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I get it. I appreciate it in its own weird way.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: But it's also there's a level of creepiness that I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: don't appreciate. So I don't know. It's a very confusing
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: time for my male brain. I'm like, I don't want
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: to be that dude that most drunken dudes at a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: party are. But I appreciate that costume. So I fall
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: somewhere in between. I don't know what to do with it.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: But I was going to say, at the time before that,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: growing up, it was one of those. You did get
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: your airway. I would say Target. Your airway had its
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: cool couple of aisles of costumes. Kmart was, yeah, Kmart
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: and Zare, they would kind of deliver. But most places,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: like now you can find stuff everywhere.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Everywhere.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: As I referenced earlier, the one for me was like
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: October 1st would roll around and I would hit the mall,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: dork that I am, but freaking Spencer's Gifts. Now, Spencer's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: now is kind of a joke. But Spencer back in
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the day, like the entire store would almost.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: Have you been to Spencer's recently?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: Okay. They've upped their game again.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, they still try, but now I feel the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: corporate hand. I feel the we have to compete with
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Hot Topic-ness.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: That like didn't used to be there because there was
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: no Hot Topic. It was just a weirdo store in
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the mall for back in the day for like. for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: fake poop and like you know magic tricks and then
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the naughty corner in the side like it really was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: just like weird shit that nobody knew what to do
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: with back in the day but when october rolled around
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: like the whole store got transformed into almost like its
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: own makeshift mall haunted house oh yeah it's like there
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: were cobwebs everywhere strobe lights every mask was on its
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: own little head sitting up there on display and it
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: was just like it was the coolest thing in the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: world And I just remember like... Well, you worked at
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the mall.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: Didn't you work in Suncoast?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: That was the mecca for.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: This was pre... Yeah, this was pre-Suncoast. This was before
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: we even had one. We had... Spencer's is pretty much
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: all I had to go look at dorky stuff.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Greatest thing about Suncoast was the widescreen section. What people
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: still made funny. You're like, oh, I don't want to
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: watch the movies with the bars.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: You probably have to explain that to people because now
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even make sense. Now, either everything comes that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: way and people don't even acknowledge it or your TV
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: readjust itself because your TV smarter than people.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: Now, if it doesn't come that way, people get upset. Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: As they should.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: And they'll chop the tops and bottoms off of old
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: movies to make people happy. I'm like, you just fucked
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: up the movie, man. Don't do that to Return of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: the Living Dead.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: It wasn't made that way. Yeah, you need to learn
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: aspect ratios. I still don't fully, I'm still like the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: least geeky about that stuff. I just know the way
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: it is. supposed to be.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: I am not a format nerd. I never have been.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: I still like VHS. I appreciate when people try to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: make films look like crap.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: For nostalgia reasons, yeah.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: I still appreciate high def, too. Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, it has... appeal in both areas.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: Watching 3d at home on high def is just amazing.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like trying too hard to make it look
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: bad you cross a line into like what if i'm
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: watching like but if you're if it if.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: That's the deep i don't care what it looks like
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: i care about the special features.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Again that's fine yeah but but like the new when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: people shoot stuff now like when the grindhouse thing got
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: over out of control And like everybody went out of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: their way to make things look like shit. I'll watch them.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: I'll take it.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I like it for the cheesiness. But if they started
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: doing everything like that, I'd be like, wait.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: It loses its show.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: What the hell? Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: It does lose its special.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: So for the gimmick of it at the time, I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: saw it and went, okay, this is fun. But then
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: it kind of like they started beating that horse a
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: little too much. So then I'm kind of like, that's fine.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Put it in high def.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: So, like, yeah, I'm not.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: Watching Star Trek, the original series in high def, is weird.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: It messes with it.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: It does. I have to turn off the... I have
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: to turn it.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There are things that need to be.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: The settings. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: There are things that need.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: The refreshing rate is way too much.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: To be the way they did it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: Now, watching King Kong? Holy crap.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: It's a different... Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: That looks really amazing when they can take those old
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: silver classics like that.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: They can clean it up.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: And put them in high def. That's fantastic. I'll still
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: watch it on VHS. I don't care.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is amazing when they salvage stuff.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: Because they're saving it. They're preserving it too.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: It really is like. And a lot of them were
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: supposed to look like that.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: They just got played a million times and got shipped
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: around the country and beat to hell and missing pieces.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: So the nostalgia thing that the Tarantino crew, it's not
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: supposed to be like that. It just ended up like that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Whereas the guys that made those old silent movies and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: early King Kong and stuff, they were supposed.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: To look good. You were watching a movie with lines
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: going through it. You didn't care as long as you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: could get the gist of what was going on. Nowadays,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: you don't have that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: A younger generation would understand that, and if they do,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: that's pretty awesome. Yeah. But they're like, oh, I can't
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: see it. They're like, are you kidding me? You don't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: know what a tracking line is.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Why can't you see it? Is your internet out? Why
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: can't you see it?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: So when I talk to people, because I see them
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: every damn day at the Gore Club and things like that,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: but I understand. I can see the look on their
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: face like, oh, you have no idea what I'm talking about.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: But they want to know, except just like me. When
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: I was younger, my dad hated Hammer Films. oh this
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: is horrible this is garbage I'm like you don't understand
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: how amazing this is so but to him it was
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: a remake you're remaking my childhood and that's when I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like holy crap now I'm at this age and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: I totally understand what he's saying so I'm not gonna
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: try to have that mentality but he hated Christopher Lee
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: and Peter Cushing I'm like what the hell Barbara Steele
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: no no these are amazing these are great but that's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: you know remaking my childhood.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: I think you also turn a corner where you just
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: get to be grumpy old man cause.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: My I had a friend of me tell me that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: the other day I'm like wow it's finally happening.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm halfway, but I don't want to get that, like, again,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: the artistic part of it, I don't want that to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: happen to you. I am a cranky old bastard. I'm fine.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I acknowledge that in many aspects of my life.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, we're sitting here bitching about everything right now. For
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: the last hour, we've been bitching.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: About everything new. We're just sappily nostalgic. Not as much bitching.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do. It's like I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: try to look at it from a different... from a
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: different perspective like i try to be open-minded toward new
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: stuff that they're making i'm like you know just but
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: don't your death grip on your nostalgia isn't right it's
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the way you like it that's fine that mentality you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: can acknowledge like my dad yeah you can acknowledge it
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: i like it.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: This way 25 stop sounding like my dad but.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: Don't think that it's right or wrong that's good yeah
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: come on that's the kind of stuff that i see
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: my dad and like or he had it's a weird
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: like in between point of like that's stupid but he'll
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: watch this that's i'm like that's the same thing you're
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: watching the same like It's weird dividing lines of like,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I'm an old man and I get to decide this
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: is stupid. So I'm like, I'm trying not to go
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: down that road as time goes on.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: Well, absolutely. The remade Poltergeist, which is not good, by
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: the way, but.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: At least I don't think it is. But there's ones
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: that are fun.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: It took them 30 years to do it.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Back in my dad's day, they did it every five years.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: With a lot of that stuff.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Cat Canary, Dracula. How many times has that been remade
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: before the 60s?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Well, we just got a new Star is Born. And
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: they were like, that used to come out every 20 years.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: We're ready for another jazz singer.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There had been three before the one. Like, we
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: skipped the 90s. We should have had a 90s version
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: of a Star is Born. We skipped that.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 5: There are holy grails that you don't want to touch. But,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's going to happen. You're going to see
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: a thing remake eventually.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And I. always say well we already yeah.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: And there's some good stuff in that there is i
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: mean is the best part where he leads right into
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: it i don't yeah i i like seeing all there's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: that's where the axe comes from.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: The problem yeah i think that stuff is genius that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: they bothered to tie all that together the problem with it.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: He wants them all just to speak norwegian and not
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: be anything other um but that's.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: What i'm a dumb american so i'm like but i
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: want you to speak what i speak.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Right i know but make your own damn movie lord
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: kaufman says.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And people should And I'll get out my Super 8
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and I guess I'll try again. But, yeah, I think
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: there's also an aspect to it that I don't want
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: to be so close-minded that I can't like new stuff
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and I can't appreciate new stuff.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: I'm not there yet. I'm not that person yet.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: But, again, it took a while. I feel like even
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: during the show, like, I remember us all being cranky
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: about remakes in the beginning. And there's like a slow
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: period of me doing this every week.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, of this show.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Of doing just this show. Yeah. Just like in the decade.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: I think you realize you're trying a lot of your
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: own like, fuck, I'm not.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Being like that.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: I think back.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember like everyone else in the group hating
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: all the remakes that were coming out. Oh, wow. And
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like all of them still do.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: I understand that.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: But I've like slowly.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: I always wanted to have that Todd-like look at movies.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: Even if it's new and brand new and polished and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: made by somebody I don't like. It's not a Uwe
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: Boll movie. But you know what I'm saying?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: I try to be like. I'm going to watch this
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: and not think about everything that's come before.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And I've started trying to get like.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: I'm going to watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 17 and go,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: you know what? Let's see what I like about it.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I try to get as artist as I can with
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff because I think it is an
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: art form. It doesn't get the respect that a lot
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: of finer art forms get.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: Plus being angry and grumpy and ripping things down gets
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: more attention than being positive about it.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Which I think that does rub people the wrong way sometimes.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: But.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I think it is something that as long as they
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: bring something new, that's what I'm always saying about remakes.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, don't do the exact same story. We've seen that.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: But if you take that concept that was a cool idea.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: And do your own thing, it's.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Just a different version. And they found really cool stuff
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: to do that isn't. possible in the old one you
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: know it's like the the stuff that came up in
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that new evil dead i'm like these are cool additions
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: that like nobody would have thought or had a way.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: To like tom savini's not a living dead i went
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: and saw the theater and i was like the guy
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: in front of me he was like oh shit this
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: is the remake i was like this is amazing shut
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: up it's in color but i know they didn't want
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: it that way originally but Man, you watch it now
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: and you're like, fuck, this is an amazing film.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: But they fixed the one thing. Like, the only thing
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: that's a weak point, because I think the original Night
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: of the Living Dead is genius. But the thing that's
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: a weak point is Barbara's so useless.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: She snaps out of it and becomes a badass.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: And she's so useless. And you finally see someone who
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: deals with it. Now, granted, she just became weird and catatonic.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And I guess some people, that might be how they
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: respond to it. But it was great getting, and it
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: sucked making it the woman. Whereas this, we get a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: woman who snaps out of it, becomes like one of
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the more useful people who learns to deal with within
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: a few hours. It's like, okay, here's the world we're
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: living in now. Let's deal with this. Let's do it.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: And becomes a full-on badass by the end of the movie.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I had met her and I talked to her
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: about that. And this was, I think she was doing
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: like a Babylon 5 tour or whatever for the Slanted
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: Fedora convention. Remember those? That's me.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: I know. And she focused on that. She's like, no, no, no, no.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: We're updating the characters as well.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: If you're going to, yeah. Why would you have somebody
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: in our... Even the 90 that it was, it's like.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I'm killing Cooper, and that's how it should be.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Women shouldn't be shoved into that little corner. It was
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: bad enough you were doing it in the 60s.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: That was early 90s.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was early 90s. But it was already to
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: the point of like... That's the part that's weak. Everything
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: else still holds up amazingly in that first one. I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: still feel like as good as I like the new remake.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: It's a product of his time, except for even though
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: they were far ahead when it came to race and
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: all that, he still had.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: The gender role. He was pushing the envelope a little
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: bit in some of that. But I also feel like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff shot in that first one is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: a little creepier. And it may be the black and white.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: It may be my weird nostalgia. I don't know. But
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I look at it and go, this other stuff holds up.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: And I love what was going on in the other one,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, if I have to pick between the two,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: I'm still probably going to go with that.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: Plus, you're a tech nerd. You know that you're looking
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: at that lighting and go, they didn't have pinpoint lighting
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: back then. They had this freaking 4K over here in
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: the corner.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: That's a camera.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: They had to cut a hole in a piece of
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: fabric to make these lines go across their faces or whatever.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: A camera he borrowed from his work job probably.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: That makes it a little bit different from your perspective
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: and mine is because a lot of people who are listening,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: they understand the tech that goes into it. They understand
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: the background.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Which nobody at the time, like back when they were
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: making that, nobody. There weren't, well, there had to be
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: a few, but it was such a minimal amount of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: tech geeks.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: You still had Martin Scorsese going, this is pretty awesome.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, ooh, I wonder how they did that.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: You know, there were the handful, but I feel like
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: all of those people went into film. Like that was
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: that first several waves.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: There's still filmmakers that did that. What was it, James
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: Cameron was like, get in, nerd. We're going to go
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: see Evil Dead 2.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we're going to do it.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: Talking to Bill Paxton. Yep. So there's still those guys.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, and you look at Evil Dead 2, technically
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: it's awful. But to us, it's one of those grail films.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: Don't ever remake it. It's gone.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Well, it is its own remake.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: You see the garden hose sticking out of the neck
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: with the shooting blood. doesn't matter man to me that
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: movie is a groundbreaker and I've always said.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: That about the special effects too like even going back
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: to those homemade films I'm like as long as you're
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: getting the point across, it's working. Like, as long as you,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: if you look at the screen and go, I don't
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: know what's going on, you failed. But if you understand
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: what that garden hold is that's spewing out red liquid,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it worked. You made your scene work. It
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: may not look realistic, but you got your point across,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: which is what you, as the filmmaker, need to be doing.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how good it looks. Granted, you're going
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: to get some snickers, the worst it is. But I'm like,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: to me, anybody, because I look at those 80s sci-fi,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Corman-level of like sci-fi stuff that I'm just like oh
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: that all looks terrible realistically but do I love them
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: yeah because I'm like you you took no money and
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: made a sci-fi epic That's impressive. No matter how bad
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: it looks. If you made the story come together, you
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: got the point across. That's a spaceship flying through space.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you made it work. That works. Points to you, man.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: That's an awesome thing that you created, no matter how
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: cheesy it looks.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: I screened Escape from New York not too long ago,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: and people were talking about the effects. I was like,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: you know, that's actually a cardboard box with reflective tape
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: that they filmed. to make it look like it was
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: a computer screen. That's not a real city. That's not
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: like an Atari thing. That's not even that. That's James
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: Cameron sitting there with a reflection.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: That was the original, yeah.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: And they took a camera over it, and it's a cityscape,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: so shut the fuck up. I didn't say it like that,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: because I wanted them to appreciate it. I didn't want
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: to jade them, but then they're like, oh.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: That's different. Even like the titles, like you with your role.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: But that still happens. Look at like the Carpenter thing.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: It still happens.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: That thing tearing open was like a sheet. It was
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: like a piece of material tearing open.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: There's a film being made every week. Yeah. Somebody's still
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: doing that, but you know.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: And that's, I think what makes those better sometimes is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: like it makes you creative. I was actually just listening
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: to a dorky audio show about with a filmmaker. And
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: he was just like, I did this weird alternate reality
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: in this scene. And the reason I did it this
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: way is because we had no money to put any
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: effects together. Right. And the guy talking to him was like, well,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: that was my favorite part. He was like, it makes
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: it its own weird. And I'm like, that's, that's the point.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: It's like that necessity makes you so creative.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: It creates the film and makes it.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: A better art.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: Usually it's late, right?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Harvest Lake. It's a Scott Charmer film. It's low budget.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: It's pretty much an erotic horror film. In the end,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: they had no money and they made this huge creature
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: out of bubble gum and latex and semen because it's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: a sex movie.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Again, the raft, it's plastic bags in the water. And yet,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: it scarred children for generations.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: And he did beat it, sort of. Yeah.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh wow we've been rambling we have hit many many and.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: That's well i love halloween by the way as we sat.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Down i knew i was like i was like well
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: and that's what all of like this whole month has
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: kind of become that i'm like let's talk about halloween
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and horror and all of it and see where we go.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah and we totally turned these last couple.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Of episodes i'm like that's what we i.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: Think you knew what you were doing when you asked
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: me to do this i kind of did okay all
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: right i don't feel so bad now I thought we
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: had a focus, and boy, we went off that. I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: knew what we would.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Get ourselves into.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Off the rails of the terror train.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: To bring it full circle. All right. Anything else you
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: need to pass along? Happy Halloween.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: Happy Halloween. Happy All Souls Day. Happy Day of the Dead.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: How do you pronounce it?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a super, I've gotten so geeky about Day of
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the Dead, mostly just because I want more skeleton things. Oh, man. So, yeah,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: I'm all for all of these things. Yeah. Enjoy your
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: holiday and your sappy nostalgia.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: Stop growing up, grumpy people.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can grow old like the rest of us
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: old bastards, but have an open mind about it. You
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: can keep the death grip on your old VHS tapes,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: that's fine, but give yourself a chance to experience new,
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone hates us.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone hates us. I don't care. I am true to
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  Speaker 1: my geeky self. Otherwise, that about does it. We will
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm lost in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the enchanted forest.
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  Speaker 3: Things are creeping and crawling all around.
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  Speaker 5: Night's coming on and my bony legs are shaking. I
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  Speaker 5: can't understand how I got.
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  Speaker 1: To turn around. Yeah, I know I better run.
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  Speaker 2: I think I better go.
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  Speaker 5: My mind's moving fast, but my feet are moving slow.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: I'm laughing and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving out a breath.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is that's got.
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  Speaker 1: Me scared half to death.
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  Speaker 6: I think I see a lion up ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I just hope it's a way out of here.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, that bird, I didn't see that tree.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's smart. Thank goodness I'm getting out of here.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know I better run.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I think I better go.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: My mind's moving fast, but my feet's moving slow. I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: hear some laughing and I'm giving.
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  Speaker 2: Out of breath.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is that's got me.
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  Speaker 1: Scared half to death. We are two dudes hanging out
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  Speaker 1: at the park. I mean, a lot of crazy things happen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I just watch people run. There's nothing creepy about that.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: That's not creepy at all.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: What? He's packing.
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