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- 0:08AVP of operations pulled me aside six weeks into a major
- 0:12systems transformation, he said. Kevin, something strange is
- 0:16happening. My team was fine three months
- 0:19ago. They were engaged, they were
- 0:21collaborative, they were willing to learn.
- 0:24Now half of them are quietly updating their resumes and the
- 0:29other half won't make eye contact in meetings.
- 0:32Nothing happened to them directly.
- 0:35The transformation hasn't even reached their department yet.
- 0:39I asked him one question. How's your leadership team
- 0:42handling the change? There was a really long pause.
- 0:46Then he said, honestly, our CTO hasn't slept in weeks.
- 0:51Our CFO keeps questioning the ROI in every meeting, and our
- 0:57CEO smiles through every town hall, but everyone can tell is
- 1:02performative. His team wasn't reacting to the
- 1:06transformation, They were reacting to the anxiety that was
- 1:10radiating from the people above them.
- 1:12The emotions that travel 3 levels down to the org chart
- 1:16before a single process achieves.
- 1:19That's not a communication failure.
- 1:22That's emotional contagion. And it's one of the most
- 1:25powerful and least understood forces and organizational
- 1:30transformation. I'm Kevin Novak, CEO of 2040,
- 1:34Digital professor at the University of Maryland and
- 1:38author of The Truth about Transformation, Leading in the
- 1:41Age of AI, Uncertainty, and Human Complexity, along with the
- 1:46Ideas and Innovations weekly newsletter.
- 1:49Welcome to the Human Factor podcast, the show that explores
- 1:53the intersection of humanity, technology, and transformation,
- 1:58along with the psychology behind transformation success.
- 2:02Today, Elizabeth Stewart and I are exploring the contagion
- 2:06effect and how emotions spread through organizations during
- 2:11change and transformation. In our last episode, we kicked
- 2:16off Season 2 by exploring the identity crisis of expertise.
- 2:20What happens psychologically when the very knowledge and
- 2:24skills that made people successful become the barriers
- 2:28that prevent them from adapting to change and transformation?
- 2:32We walk through the five identity threads the
- 2:35transformation creates for experienced professionals,
- 2:39competence, threat, relevance thread, status thread, narrative
- 2:44thread, and community thread. And we introduced the identity
- 2:48transition framework for helping people navigate between who they
- 2:52were and who they're becoming. Today we're asking a critical
- 2:57follow up question. What happens to that identity
- 3:01thread and the anxiety that accompanies it once it takes
- 3:05home because it doesn't stay contained in the person
- 3:09experiencing it? It moves.
- 3:11It spreads through teams, across departments, and throughout
- 3:16entire organizations in ways that it can accelerate adoption
- 3:20or silently destroy initiatives before they gain traction.
- 3:26Elizabeth Stewart is back with me today.
- 3:29Elizabeth, for our listeners who may be joining us for the first
- 3:33time, you've been a recurring voice on this show exploring the
- 3:37human psychology of organizational change.
- 3:40Welcome back. Thank you, Kevin.
- 3:43It's great to be back. I think emotional contagion is a
- 3:47topic that explains so many of the transformation failures that
- 3:51organizations chalk up to other causes.
- 3:54They blame the technology, the timeline, the budget, even the
- 3:58vendor consultant. But what actually happened was
- 4:01that fear travelled faster the information, and by the time the
- 4:05initiative reached the front line, the emotional environment
- 4:09had already turned against it. That's exactly right.
- 4:13And and what makes this so dangerous is that most leaders
- 4:16have no idea it's happening. They can see overt resistance.
- 4:21They can measure engagement scores.
- 4:23But emotional contagion operates beneath conscious awareness.
- 4:28People absorb the emotions of those around them automatically
- 4:32without recognizing they're doing it.
- 4:34By the time you see the behavioral symptoms, the
- 4:37emotional infection has already spread.
- 4:41Today, we're going to cover the science behind how emotions
- 4:45actually travel through organizations.
- 4:48Why transformation creates perfect conditions for negative
- 4:53emotional contagion. The specific patterns leaders
- 4:56need to recognize and, and what you can do about it to manage
- 5:01emotional contagion rather than by being destroyed by it.
- 5:06So let's start with the science, Elizabeth.
- 5:09Before we get into organizational dynamics, I think
- 5:13it's important that we ground this in actual research.
- 5:16Emotional contagion isn't a metaphor, it's a documented
- 5:21psychological phenomenon with decades of research behind it.
- 5:25Absolutely, Kevin. The foundational work here comes
- 5:28from the psychologist Elaine Hatfield, John Cacioppo and
- 5:33Richard Rapson. The research, published in the
- 5:371990s and validated and extended to this date, established that
- 5:42human beings automatically and continuously mimic the facial
- 5:46expressions, vocal patterns, postures, and movements of
- 5:50people around them. This mimicry happens in
- 5:54milliseconds, well below conscious awareness, and it
- 5:57triggers corresponding emotional states in the person doing the
- 6:01mimicking. So when you're sitting across
- 6:03from someone who is anxious, your face begins with subtlety
- 6:07to mirror their tension. Then your body shifts to match
- 6:11their posture, and through the physical mimicry you begin to
- 6:15actually feel the anxiety yourself.
- 6:17And this isn't a choice. This is someone deciding to feel
- 6:21anxious because their manager seems worried.
- 6:24It's neurological. The brain's mirror neuron
- 6:27system, which neuroscientists have studied extensively since
- 6:31the mid 1990s, means we are literally wired to absorb the
- 6:35emotional states of the people around us.
- 6:38It served an evolutionary purpose.
- 6:40If someone in your group sensed danger, you needed to feel that
- 6:44danger too, without waiting for a verbal explanation.
- 6:47So the speed of emotional transfer became a survival
- 6:51advantage. The problem, Gavin, is that the
- 6:54same mechanism that helped our ancestors survive predator
- 6:57threats now operates in conference rooms and on video
- 7:01calls. Siegel, Barsaid at the Wharton
- 7:04School, conducted some of the most important research on this
- 7:08in the organizational settings. Her 2000 study, which has been
- 7:13cited extensively in organizational behaviour
- 7:16literature, demonstrated that a single person's emotional state
- 7:20could shift the mood of an entire group.
- 7:23She found that positive emotional contagion improve
- 7:27cooperation and decrease conflict, while negative
- 7:31emotional contagion increase conflict and reduce cooperation,
- 7:36and the group members were largely unaware that their
- 7:39emotions had been influenced by others.
- 7:42That that last point is crucial. People don't realize their
- 7:46emotional estate has been shaped by someone else's emotions.
- 7:49They attribute their feelings to their own assessment of the
- 7:52situation. A-Team member who absorbs
- 7:55anxiety from a leader doesn't think I'm feeling anxious
- 7:58because my manager is anxious. They think I'm feeling anxious
- 8:02because this transformation is going to be a disaster.
- 8:06The emotion arise first, and the brain then constructs A rational
- 8:10explanation after the fact. This is what makes emotional
- 8:14contagion so powerful and so invisible in a transformational
- 8:19context. The research from Nicholas
- 8:21Christakis and James Fowler on social networks adds another
- 8:25dimension. Their work demonstrated that
- 8:29emotional states can spread across up to 3° of separation in
- 8:33social networks. You don't have to be in direct
- 8:36contact with the anxious leader. If your managers, manager,
- 8:40manager is experiencing identity threat and the anxiety that
- 8:45comes with it, that emotional state can reach you through the
- 8:48chain of social connections even if you've never met the person
- 8:52at the origin of that anxiety. 3° of separation and a typical
- 8:58organizational hierarchy covers enormous ground.
- 9:02Aceo, who is experiencing fear about a transformation.
- 9:05Success can generate emotional contagion that reaches frontline
- 9:10employees through multiple pathways, through direct
- 9:12reports, through informal networks, and through meeting
- 9:15dynamics through the way decisions are communicated or
- 9:19delayed. And each person along the change
- 9:22doesn't just pass the emotion forward, they amplify it, or
- 9:27they transform it based on their own psychology.
- 9:31That amplification effect is something the research is very
- 9:35clear about. When someone absorbs anxiety
- 9:39from a leader and then adds their own identity, threat or
- 9:43competence concerns on top of it, the emotion they transmit to
- 9:47the next person is often more intense than what they receive.
- 9:52It's not a neutral relay, it's an escalation.
- 9:56Organizational psychologist Daniel Goleman's work on
- 9:59emotional intelligence has shown that negative emotions tend to
- 10:03be more contagious than positive ones, and they spread faster.
- 10:08This is consistent with what neuroscience tells us about the
- 10:11brain's negativity bias, the tendency to give more weight and
- 10:15attention to negative stimuli, which has been documented in
- 10:20numerous studies over the past two decades.
- 10:23So what we're dealing with in transformation is not just
- 10:26people having individual emotional reactions that change.
- 10:30We're dealing with a system level phenomenon where emotions
- 10:33travel through the organizations separate social networks,
- 10:37amplifying as they go, operating below conscious awareness and
- 10:42shaping how people interpret or respond to the transformation
- 10:46before they've had any direct experience with it.
- 10:49Elizabeth, let's talk about why organizational transformation
- 10:54creates ideal conditions for emotional contagion to operate
- 10:59at its most destructive. There's several factors given
- 11:03that converge during transformation that make
- 11:05emotional contagion particularly powerful.
- 11:09The first, of course, is uncertainty.
- 11:11Research on stress and cognition consistently shows that
- 11:15uncertainty heightens emotional sensitivity.
- 11:18When people don't know what's coming, when roles are unclear,
- 11:23when timelines shift, when the end state isn't well defined,
- 11:27their brains become more vigilant about scanning the
- 11:30environment for potential or imagined signs of threats.
- 11:34And the primary source of those signs or cues isn't the official
- 11:37communication. It's the emotional states of the
- 11:41people around them, especially the people above them in the
- 11:45hierarchy. And this connects directly to
- 11:48what we discussed in our last episode about identity threat.
- 11:51When leaders are processing their own anxiety about whether
- 11:55their expertise, their role, their relevance will survive the
- 11:58transformation, they're broadcasting that anxiety
- 12:02through every interaction. Their tone in meetings shift
- 12:07their response time and emails change.
- 12:09Their body language during presentations tells a different
- 12:13story than their words, and every person in the room is
- 12:16unconsciously reading those signals and absorbing the
- 12:19emotional content. The second factor is what
- 12:23researchers call social referencing.
- 12:26This is well documented in developmental psychology, where
- 12:30infants look to their caregivers facial expressions to determine
- 12:34whether a situation is safe or threatening, and also the same
- 12:38thing in organizations, particularly during times of
- 12:41uncertainty. They look to leaders, to
- 12:44respected colleagues, to informal influencers to
- 12:48determine how they should feel about what's happening.
- 12:51If the people they're looking to offer emotional cues are
- 12:53radiating fear, that fear becomes a shared emotional
- 12:57baseline for the group. And here's where it gets really
- 13:01interesting from a transformation perspective.
- 13:04The people who are most likely to be experiencing intense
- 13:07emotions during transformation, senior leaders, the technical
- 13:11experts, the long tenured employees who identities are
- 13:15most tied to the current state are also the people most others
- 13:19are looking to for emotional guidance.
- 13:22The research on emotional contagion show us the people
- 13:25with more power and status have disproportionately more
- 13:29influence on group emotional states.
- 13:32A leader's anxiety is more contagious than a peers anxiety.
- 13:36A respected experts fear about the transformation carries more
- 13:41emotional weight than a junior employee's concerns.
- 13:45Kevin The third factor is proximity and frequency of
- 13:48contact. Emotional contagion requires
- 13:51exposure. The more time you spend with
- 13:53someone experiencing a strong emotion, the more likely you are
- 13:57to absorb that emotion. During transformation,
- 14:01organizations typically increase meeting frequency.
- 14:05There are more town halls, more check insurance, more status
- 14:08updates, more steering committee sessions.
- 14:11Each of this is an exposure opportunity.
- 14:14Organizations think they're improving communication and they
- 14:18may be improving information transfer, but they're
- 14:21simultaneously increasing the channels through which emotional
- 14:25contagion operates. I've seen this pattern
- 14:28repeatedly. An organization launches A
- 14:31transformation, recognizes that communication is important,
- 14:36dramatically increases the number of meetings and touch
- 14:39points, and then watches engagement decline even as
- 14:42communication increases. They're confused because they're
- 14:46doing everything the change management playbooks recommend.
- 14:50What they don't realize is that every meeting where leaders
- 14:54unprocessed anxiety leaks through their carefully prepared
- 14:57talking points is spreading negative emotion contagion
- 15:01further and faster. So the 4th factor is the absence
- 15:06of emotional processing. Time transformation typically
- 15:10moves fast. Their deadlines, their
- 15:12milestones, their deliverables. There's pressure to maintain
- 15:15momentum. What gets sacrificed is the time
- 15:19and space for people to process their emotional response to
- 15:22change. And unprocessed emotions don't
- 15:26disappear. They leak out in interactions.
- 15:29It don't in micro expressions and in the way people respond or
- 15:33don't respond to questions. They become the raw material for
- 15:37emotional contagion. Yeah.
- 15:40So if we put all this together, transformation creates high
- 15:44uncertainty, which then increases emotional sensitivity,
- 15:48it puts the most emotionally affected people in the most
- 15:52visible and influential positions, it increases the
- 15:56frequency of contact and exposure, and it eliminates the
- 16:00time needed for emotional processing.
- 16:03That's just not a contagion friendly environment.
- 16:07That's a contagion optimized environment.
- 16:11Let's get specific about what emotional contagion actually
- 16:15looks like as it moves through an organization during
- 16:19transformation. Elizabeth, in your experience,
- 16:23what are the patterns that leaders need to recognize?
- 16:27The 1st and most common pattern is what I'd call the anxiety
- 16:31cascade. It starts at the top, often with
- 16:34a single leader or a small leadership group or team
- 16:37processing identity, threat, competence, anxiety, or
- 16:42strategic uncertainty. That anxiety expresses itself
- 16:46subtly to their behavior. Shorter responses in meetings.
- 16:50More frequent requests for data and reassurance.
- 16:54Decision delays disguised as prudent analysis.
- 16:57A shifting tone from confident to cautious.
- 17:01Their direct reports absorb the anxiety.
- 17:04They add their own concerns and transmit an intensified version
- 17:07to their teens. But that time it reaches the
- 17:10front line. The original strategic
- 17:13uncertainty has transformed into This whole thing is going to
- 17:17fail and we're all going to lose our jobs.
- 17:21And in that regard, I want to emphasize something about that
- 17:24cascade. The message changes as the
- 17:27emotion travels. The CEO might be experiencing
- 17:31legitimate strategic concern about market timing.
- 17:34That's a reasonable emotion for someone in that role, but by the
- 17:39time it has travelled through 3 or 4 levels, it's no longer
- 17:43strategic concern, it's an existential fear.
- 17:47Each person in the chain interprets the emotion through
- 17:51their own psychological lens in the enransmit, a version of that
- 17:56reflecting their specific vulnerabilities.
- 17:59The emotion is the carrier, but the narrative it attaches to
- 18:04shifts at every level. The second pattern, Kevin, is
- 18:08what researchers describe as emotional clustering for pockets
- 18:13of shared emotional states form within teams or departments.
- 18:17This happens when a particularly emotionally expressive
- 18:21individual, often A-Team lead or informal influencer, sets the
- 18:26emotional tone for the group. If that person is processing
- 18:30change with anxiety and cynicism, the entire cluster
- 18:33adapts at emotional stance. You end up with departments
- 18:37where everyone knows this won't work, not because they've
- 18:41independently evaluated the transformation, but because the
- 18:45emotional environment has shaped a shared narrative.
- 18:50Yeah, I've seen this organizations where two
- 18:52departments sitting on the same floor doing the same work,
- 18:56affected by the same transformation, have completely
- 19:00opposite emotional orientations. 1 is cautiously optimistic, the
- 19:05other is actively hostile. The difference isn't information
- 19:09or even impact. The difference is the emotional
- 19:12state of the person setting the tone for each group.
- 19:16That's emotional contagion operating at the cluster level.
- 19:213rd pattern is what we call emotional suppression rebound.
- 19:25This is particularly insidious, Gavin.
- 19:28It happens when leaders are told, often by well meaning
- 19:31change management consultants, that they need to project
- 19:34confidence and positivity about the transformation regardless of
- 19:39what they actually feel. The research on emotional
- 19:42suppression, including work by James Gross at Stanford, is very
- 19:47clear that suppressed emotions do not disappear.
- 19:50They leak out through micro expressions, the tone of the
- 19:53voice, the timing and the gap between words and non verbal
- 19:57signals. What research describes as.
- 20:00Behavioral leakage. Then here's the critical
- 20:04finding. People are remarkably good at
- 20:08detecting emotional and congruence.
- 20:10When a leader says I'm excited about this transformation, but
- 20:15their body language, their tone, their behavior between meetings
- 20:18all signal anxiety, the recipients don't average those
- 20:23signals. They weight the non verbal
- 20:26signal more heavily because it feels more authentic.
- 20:30Research and communication science has consistently shown
- 20:34that when verbal and non verbal messages conflict, people
- 20:38actually trust the non verbal message.
- 20:40So the leader who suppresses their anxiety and projects false
- 20:44confidence doesn't prevent emotional contagion.
- 20:48They make it worse because they add distrust to the emotional
- 20:52cocktail that's spreading throughout the organization.
- 20:56Is exactly right. The emotion that spreads isn't
- 21:00just anxiety anymore, it's anxiety.
- 21:02Plus, leadership isn't being honest with us.
- 21:05That combination is significantly more destructive
- 21:09than authentic anxiety on its own.
- 21:11At least authentic anxiety can be discussed, validated and
- 21:16processed. Exactly.
- 21:19The 4th pattern is what I call emotional echo chambers.
- 21:23This builds on the clustering phenomenon, but it operates
- 21:26through informal networks rather than formal teams.
- 21:29During transformation, people naturally seek out others who
- 21:33share their emotional state. Anxious people find other
- 21:37anxious people. Cynical people find other
- 21:40cynics. These informal groups reinforce
- 21:43and amplify their shared emotional states through
- 21:46repeated interaction. Social Media Research has
- 21:50documented this dynamic extensively in online
- 21:53environments, but it equally operates just as powerfully in
- 21:57an organizational setting. And the echo chamber effect has
- 22:02a specific consequence for transformation.
- 22:04It creates A phenomenon organizational psychologist
- 22:07called pluralistic ignorance, where each member of the group
- 22:11believes the emotional state represents A majority view when
- 22:15it may actually represent a minority position.
- 22:19An echo Chamber of eight anxious people in a department of 50 can
- 22:23convince itself and eventually convince the rest that everyone
- 22:27thinks the transformation will fail.
- 22:30The emotional reality that Co constructed through contagion
- 22:34becomes a perceived organizational reality.
- 22:38The 5th pattern, and perhaps the most damaging, is what I
- 22:41described as learned helplessness contagion.
- 22:45This occurs when people who've been through previous failed
- 22:48transformations transmit not just anxiety, but a specific
- 22:53belief the change efforts are futile.
- 22:56Their emotional message isn't. I'm worried about this.
- 23:00It's nothing we do matters. We've seen all this before.
- 23:03It will fail like the last one. Martin Seligman's foundational
- 23:09research established that learned helplessness develops
- 23:13when individuals experience repeated, uncontrollable
- 23:16negative outcomes. What organizational researchers
- 23:19have since observed is that this helpless orientation doesn't
- 23:24stay contained to those who experience the failures
- 23:27directly. Through emotional contagion and
- 23:31social modeling, people who've never experienced the original
- 23:34failures can adopt the same passive, defeated stances simply
- 23:39by working alongside those who did.
- 23:44And the organizations with a history of failed
- 23:47transformations, which is mostly among large organizations with a
- 23:51documented 70% failure rate. These organizations have
- 23:54embedded learn helplessness in their culture.
- 23:57It has become part of the emotional infrastructure and new
- 24:01employees absorb it from veterans.
- 24:04New leaders encounter it in every room is the emotional
- 24:07equivalent of organizational scar tissue.
- 24:11It makes every subsequent transformation harder because
- 24:15the negative emotional contagion has a head start.
- 24:19So the natural question is, what do you actually do about this?
- 24:23You can't eliminate emotional contagion.
- 24:26It's a basic feature of human neurobiology.
- 24:30You can't tell people to stop feeling anxious.
- 24:33And as we just discussed, suppressing emotions makes the
- 24:38contagion even worse. Elizabeth, what does the
- 24:42research suggest about managing rather than trying to eliminate
- 24:46emotional contagion? To the 1st and most important
- 24:50intervention is leader emotional awareness and processing.
- 24:55Before leaders can manage the emotional contagion they're
- 24:57generating, they need to understand that they are the
- 25:00ones generating it. Most leaders that I work with
- 25:04are genuinely surprised when they learn that their
- 25:06unprocessed anxiety is radiating outward through every
- 25:10interaction. They think they're hiding it
- 25:13well. They're not.
- 25:15The research is very clear on this.
- 25:17Yeah, this connects to something we've talked about throughout
- 25:20this podcast series, the importance of leaders doing
- 25:23their own psychological work before expecting their teams to
- 25:27navigate change successfully. If a leader is experiencing
- 25:31identity threat, competence, anxiety, or strategic
- 25:35uncertainty about the transformation, that's
- 25:38completely legitimate. But those emotions need to be
- 25:42processed, ideally with a coach, a peer group, or even a trusted
- 25:47advisor. It happened needs to happen
- 25:50before the leader walks into a room full of people who will
- 25:53unconsciously absorb whatever emotional state they bring with
- 25:57them. Kevin, the second intervention
- 26:01is what I'd call intentional emotional modeling.
- 26:05Once leaders understand that they're emotional broadcasters,
- 26:09they can begin to be more intentional about what they
- 26:11broadcast. And I want to be very clear,
- 26:15this is not the same as emotional suppression or
- 26:18projecting false positivity. Intentional emotional modeling
- 26:23means being authentic about the complexity of the emotional
- 26:26landscape while deliberately choosing which aspects to lead
- 26:30with. A leader might say, I want to be
- 26:33honest that this transformation involves real uncertainty.
- 26:38I have concerns too, and I'm also genuinely energized by the
- 26:42problem we're solving, and we're confident in the team's ability
- 26:45to work through the hard parts. That's not fake positivity.
- 26:49That's an authentic emotional frame that acknowledges
- 26:53difficulty while leading with agency and capability.
- 26:58The research on what Amy Edmondson at Harvard has
- 27:01documented about psychological safety is directly relevant
- 27:05here. When leaders model emotional
- 27:08honesty, not emotional dumping, but honest acknowledgement of
- 27:13their own emotional experience, it creates conditions where
- 27:17others feel safe to process their emotions openly rather
- 27:21than through the underground channels of contagion.
- 27:24The emotions don't disappear, but they move from unconscious
- 27:29transmission to conscious conversation, and that's where
- 27:33they can actually be managed. The third intervention targets
- 27:37the structural conditions that amplify contagion.
- 27:41Remember, transformation typically increases meeting
- 27:44frequency, reduces processing time, and puts emotionally
- 27:48affected leaders in front of large groups repeatedly.
- 27:53Organizations can redesign these structures to reduce contagion
- 27:56risk. This might mean, for instance,
- 27:59reducing large group meetings where single leaders anxiety can
- 28:03spread to hundreds of people simultaneously, and replacing
- 28:07them with smaller group conversations where the
- 28:09emotional dynamics are more manageable and reciprocal.
- 28:14It might mean building processing time into the
- 28:17transformation cadence, not more meetings to discuss a change,
- 28:21but dedicated space for people to articulate and work to their
- 28:25emotional responses to the change.
- 28:28Yeah, I want to add something practical here.
- 28:31One of the most effective interventions that I've used is
- 28:34what I call emotional check insurance at the beginning of
- 28:37meetings. Not how is everyone feeling,
- 28:41which tends to generate performative responses, but
- 28:44structured questions like what's one thing about this
- 28:48transformation that concerns you that we haven't yet openly
- 28:52discussed? Or where are you on a scale of 1
- 28:56to 10 in terms of confidence that we'll get this right?
- 29:00And what would move you one point higher?
- 29:03These questions surface the emotional reality in a way that
- 29:08makes it discussable, rather than letting it operate
- 29:11underground through contagion. The 4th intervention focuses on
- 29:17identifying and supporting emotional influences.
- 29:21Every organization we know as informal emotional leaders,
- 29:25people whose emotional states have disproportionate influence
- 29:28on the groups around them. These aren't always a formal
- 29:32leaders. They might be a long tenured
- 29:34team lead, a respected technical expert, or the person everyone
- 29:38goes to for the real story about what's happening.
- 29:42If these emotional influencers are processing change with
- 29:45anxiety and cynicism, they become super spreaders of
- 29:49negative contagion. If they're processing change
- 29:53with cautious optimism and genuine engagement, they become
- 29:57accelerators of positive emotional momentum.
- 30:01The identification piece here is critical.
- 30:04Leaders need to map out not just the formal or chart, but the
- 30:08emotional influence network. Who Who do people go to when
- 30:12they want to know how to feel about something?
- 30:15Who sets the tone in meetings? Whose reaction to a change
- 30:19announcement do people watch before forming their own
- 30:23response? Those are your emotional
- 30:25influencers, and investing in their psychological readiness
- 30:29for change is one of the highest return investments A
- 30:32transformation leader can make. The 5th intervention, and this
- 30:37one draws directly from the emotional contagion research, is
- 30:40leveraging the fact that positive emotions are also
- 30:44contagious. Barsad's research showed that
- 30:46positive emotional contagion improve group cooperation,
- 30:51reduce conflict, and enhance performance.
- 30:54The mechanism works in both directions.
- 30:56Organizations can intentionally create conditions for positive
- 31:00emotional contagion by celebrating genuine small wins,
- 31:05by making progress visible and concrete, by creating
- 31:09opportunities for people who've successfully navigated the
- 31:12change to share their experiences with those who
- 31:15haven't yet experienced them. And I want to emphasize here the
- 31:19word genuine manufactured enthusiasm, forced fun
- 31:24activities, performative celebrations.
- 31:27They're detected as inauthentic and trigger the same distrust
- 31:31dynamic we discussed earlier. Positive emotional contagion
- 31:35requires authentic positive emotional experiences.
- 31:39That means the small wins need to be real.
- 31:43The progress needs to be actual. The stories of successful
- 31:47navigation need to come from people who genuinely experience
- 31:51difficulty and work through it, not from hand picked success
- 31:55stories designed to make the transformation look easier than
- 31:58it is. OK, But one more point on this,
- 32:01Gavin. The timing matters enormously.
- 32:04Early in the transformation, when uncertainty is highest and
- 32:09emotional sensitivity is most acute, leader should be
- 32:12investing heavily in creating conditions for the positive
- 32:16emotional contagion. This is when emotional direction
- 32:20is being established. Once a negative emotional
- 32:23trajectory is entrenched, reversing it requires
- 32:27significantly more effort than setting a positive trajectory
- 32:31from the beginning would have had.
- 32:33For critical insight, emotional contagion is easier to shape at
- 32:38the beginning of a change rather than reverse once it's
- 32:42established. Organizations that or the
- 32:45emotional dimensions during the early phases of transformation
- 32:49and then try to address morale problems later, or fighting an
- 32:53uphill battle against entrenched emotional patterns that have
- 32:57already spread through the organization's social networks.
- 33:02Elizabeth, as we wrap up, what's the one thing that you would
- 33:06want transformation leaders to take away from this
- 33:08conversation? Kevin, we need to remember and
- 33:12be aware that emotions are data. They're not obstacles.
- 33:16When you see anxiety spreading through your organization,
- 33:19that's not a problem to suppress or a weakness in your people.
- 33:23It's information about the psychological environment you
- 33:26created. The question isn't how do I stop
- 33:30people from being anxious? The question is, what is the
- 33:33emotional environment I'm creating through my own
- 33:36behavior, through the structures of design, to the way I'm
- 33:40handing my own sychological response to this change?
- 33:44If you change the emotional inputs, the contagion changes
- 33:47direction. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
- 33:51And I'd add to this. The 70% transformation failure
- 33:54rate that we reference frequently on the show doesn't
- 33:57exist because organizations choose bad technology or write
- 34:02poor strategies. It really exists because they
- 34:05ignore the human factors, the emotional factors that determine
- 34:09whether people actually embrace or quietly sabotage the change.
- 34:14Emotional contingent is one of those factors, and it's
- 34:18operating in your organization right now, whether you're
- 34:21managing it or not. In our next episode, I'm going
- 34:26to address something that connects directly to what we've
- 34:28been discussing about emotional contagion, the middle management
- 34:33trap. Why are your most critical
- 34:36change agents set up to fail? Middle managers are the
- 34:41organizational layer that receives the most pressure to
- 34:43drive change while having the least psychological support to
- 34:47manage it. They're translating strategic
- 34:50vision downward while managing resistance upward.
- 34:54And the research shows they experience significantly higher
- 34:58stress during transformation than either senior leadership or
- 35:03the front line employees. We're going to explore the five
- 35:07distinct psychological burdens middle managers carry during
- 35:10change and what senior leaders can do to stop burning out their
- 35:14most important transformation allies.
- 35:17It's essential listening for any executive who depends on middle
- 35:21management to execute their transformation vision.
- 35:25If you found today's episode valuable, visit 2014 digital.com
- 35:31again, it's 2014 digitaloneword.com.
- 35:34Or pick up a copy of Kevin's book, The Truth About
- 35:37Transformation, Leading in the Age of AI, Uncertainty, and
- 35:42Human Complexity and explore these concepts further.
- 35:46Also, you can subscribe to the Human Factor Podcast wherever
- 35:50you listen to podcasts. Leave a rating and a comment.
- 35:53And please share this episode with your leadership team, your
- 35:56colleagues, your peer network, because emotional contagion is a
- 36:00shared challenge that requires shared understanding.
- 36:04Until next time, remember every transformation has 2 tracks
- 36:08running simultaneously. The visible track of technology,
- 36:12process and structure, and the invisible track of emotions
- 36:17traveling through your organization's human networks.
- 36:21The organizations that manage both tracks succeed.
- 36:25The ones that ignore the invisible track become part of
- 36:28the 70% failure rate. This is the Human Factor
- 36:32podcast. I'm Kevin Novak.
- 36:35And I'm Elizabeth Stewart, thank you again for watching or
- 36:38listening.