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Bonus Episode: A Murder On Tour, Southern Bands and Brother Bands · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to gave from one full episode
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  Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into
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  Speaker 1: the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth and to
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  Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: we reveal the murder from Allman Brothers band history that
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it into this week's full episode. Plus your
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  Speaker 1: take on the greatest Southern bands of all time, a
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  Speaker 1: conversation on the greatest brother bands of all time, in
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  Speaker 1: a preview of next week's new episode on Alice Bag,
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  Speaker 1: front woman for LA Punk band The Bags Were Bags,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, and protector of an LA punk scene that
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  Speaker 1: was being threatened by serial killers. Plus we get into
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  Speaker 1: your emails, comments, dms, and as always a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed,
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  Speaker 1: the outsiders, the Independent thinkers who know that the best
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  Speaker 1: history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where
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  Speaker 1: I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind
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  Speaker 1: you'll end up telling someone else. All right, just goes,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it. Touring in a band will literally
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  Speaker 1: drive you crazy. Allman Brothers band attorney John Condon Junior
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  Speaker 1: prove that in a court of law in nineteen seventy. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I've toured in bands, and a lot of you have
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  Speaker 1: as well, And most of you know people who have toured,
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  Speaker 1: and you heard the stories. The road is tough. The
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  Speaker 1: road won't just kill you, it will, like the man's said,
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  Speaker 1: drive you crazy. Even the most successful artists get driven
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  Speaker 1: into a state of isolation on the road. Even the
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  Speaker 1: most disciplined are tempted. The healthiest succumb to unhealthy habits.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's out. They're drug sex, bad food, and
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  Speaker 1: a lack of suitable toilet options. It's enough to make
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  Speaker 1: a rambled the man take up a straight job, I
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  Speaker 1: tell you. But back in nineteen seventy, the Allman Brothers band,
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  Speaker 1: like many before them and many after, they wanted their
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  Speaker 1: slice of the rock and roll pie. And they weren't
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  Speaker 1: going to be denied. So they were touring in a
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  Speaker 1: shitty little Winnebago across the Midwest, and when they made
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  Speaker 1: their way to New York they were well frazzled. The
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  Speaker 1: bands that itinerary had them in Chicago one night, Long
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  Speaker 1: Island the next, and then high tailing it west and
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  Speaker 1: north again to play in Buffalo the next night. When
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  Speaker 1: they got there, they went on late. In Buffalo. When
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  Speaker 1: they did go on, they did burn the house down.
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  Speaker 1: Not literally, the literal violence would come later that evening
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  Speaker 1: when the band attempted to get paid by the promoter.
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  Speaker 1: The promoter, a guy by the name of Angelo Aliota,
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  Speaker 1: told Alman Brothers bassist Barry Oakley that the thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: guarantee that the band is supposed to get paid that
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  Speaker 1: night was not going to happen, he said. The promoter
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  Speaker 1: said that the band went on late, so he was
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  Speaker 1: only going to pay them five hundred bucks. Now, Oakley,
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  Speaker 1: the bass player, relayed this message to the Alman Brothers
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  Speaker 1: road manager, a dude by the name of Twiggs Lyndon Junior.
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  Speaker 1: You know the scrawny little road manager from almost famous,
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  Speaker 1: the dude with the long hair, leather vest and cowboy hat.
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  Speaker 1: Put some christ on, a cross muscle tone on that dude,
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  Speaker 1: give him a Sam Elliott mustache and spram with an
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  Speaker 1: air of I don't give a fuck, and you'll have
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  Speaker 1: a picture of Twiggs. Lindon Junior, the Almonds road manager.
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  Speaker 1: Twiggs was, in a word, badass, a nineteen seventies road
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  Speaker 1: managing badass. Twiggs had come up looking after other Georgia
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  Speaker 1: artists like Otis Redding and Little Richard, and they'll make
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  Speaker 1: them crazier than Little Richard on or off the road. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe all those one nighters that the Almonds were up to,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they'd caught up to Twigs on that very night.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe he was just bloodthirsty, maybe he just needed
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  Speaker 1: to blow off some steam. When the bass player Oakley,
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  Speaker 1: told Twiggs that the promoter Aliota was stiffing them on
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  Speaker 1: half their pay, Twigs confronted Aliota, and Aliota told Twigs
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  Speaker 1: to go fuck himself. Twiggs pulled out the ten inch
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  Speaker 1: fishing knife that he kept sheathed on his hip, and
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  Speaker 1: Aliota rushed at him. The two then fell grappling to
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  Speaker 1: the floor. They were on the club, rolling around, and
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  Speaker 1: only one of them got up. Almand Brothers band Twiggs
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  Speaker 1: Lyndon Junior. He's the one who got up Angelo Aliota,
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  Speaker 1: the promoter. He remained bleeding on the floor. He was
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  Speaker 1: stabbed by Twigs. Twigs sat on a barstool. Fuck him,
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  Speaker 1: was what he was reported to have said, and he
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  Speaker 1: watched Aliota then bleed out. He then said, let them
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  Speaker 1: give me the electric chair. I needed to make my point.
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  Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but that's what's reported he had said. Within
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  Speaker 1: an hour, the promoter was dead. Twigs didn't resist arrest
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  Speaker 1: all my brothers. Attorney John Condon Jr. Gambled. When this
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  Speaker 1: went to court, the attorney for Twiggs opted for a
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  Speaker 1: bench trial, meaning that there would be no jury, that
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  Speaker 1: the judge alone would decide his client's fate. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know this is possible, but it turns out it is,
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  Speaker 1: or it was so the attorney then condon. This guy Condon.
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  Speaker 1: He pleaded temporary insanity for Twiggs Lyndon Jr. He said
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  Speaker 1: that the road manager was made crazy by the road
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  Speaker 1: and that's why he killed that dude. Look at this
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  Speaker 1: group of long hair, drug addicted freaks. My client has
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  Speaker 1: to look after your honor. You'd go crazy too, Like literally,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the argument he didn't say. This
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what he did argue a version of this.
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  Speaker 1: He even brought in Almonds bassist. I have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time saying Almonds Almonds bassist, very Oakly, the guy we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. He brought him up on the
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  Speaker 1: stand to discuss his dope habit. Okay. The lawyer also
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  Speaker 1: produced a list of age of consent for minors in
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  Speaker 1: each state. It's nineteen seventy year, honor. The age of
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  Speaker 1: consent in some states is only fourteen years old. How
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  Speaker 1: am I going to keep these guys sane? Are you're
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  Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? This happened like literally arguing that the
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  Speaker 1: age of consent is less than eighteen in some of
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  Speaker 1: these states that they're traveling in. So the thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: year old road manager is driven crazy. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy enough. But the crazier thing here, guys, is
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  Speaker 1: it worked. Okay. The judge ruled that Almond Brothers road
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  Speaker 1: manager John Condon Junior was temporarily insane when he killed
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  Speaker 1: Angelo Aliota Twiggs. Lyndon Junior was not guilty by reason
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  Speaker 1: of temporary insanity, thus proving that touring in a rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll band can literally make you crazy. Twigs did
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  Speaker 1: six months in a psych ward as his punishment, and
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  Speaker 1: then he got out and he once again hit the
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  Speaker 1: road with the Almond Brothers. He died in nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: nine in a skydiving accident when his shoot failed to open.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Twigs was crazy after all, because only crazy motherfucker's skydive.
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  Speaker 1: This story was not in this week's episode on the
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  Speaker 1: Almond Brothers band, but I wanted to share it with
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  Speaker 1: you guys, because it's, well, you guessed it crazy, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of crazy, why are bands with brothers in them
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  Speaker 1: the craziest Oasis? Black Crows, Almond Brothers, Zeth and I
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  Speaker 1: are diving into the antics and craziness from brother bands
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  Speaker 1: and the great music that these brother bands have made
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  Speaker 1: throughout music history. Coming up in the exclusive section of
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, got to talk about my ever bros guitar
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  Speaker 1: all right. Go to Disgray sampod dot com to sign
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  Speaker 1: up to get exclusive content like this plus ad free
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  Speaker 1: listening in your feed. Right now, guys, we have our
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  Speaker 1: Almond Brother's band episode that I've been talking about. The
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  Speaker 1: story deals with more than just Dwayne Almon's incredible guitar
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  Speaker 1: playing also gets into the Dixie gangs the band crossed
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  Speaker 1: and had to survive, but it also delves into the
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  Speaker 1: efforts that the band made in getting a peanut farmer
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  Speaker 1: elected president. Here's what I mean. In nineteen seventy five,
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  Speaker 1: an Almond Brothers band concert helped elect the next president
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  Speaker 1: of the United States. Greg Almon couldn't believe that this
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  Speaker 1: dude in jeans and T shirt, sipping scotch and listening
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  Speaker 1: to blues records was actually the governor of his state.
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  Speaker 1: And Greg Almon almost spit out his drink when that man,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, told him that he was running for president. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Greg knew that the idea that was crazy, but he
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  Speaker 1: told Carter he'd do anything he could to help his campaign.
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  Speaker 1: By late nineteen seventy five, Jimmy Carter's campaign was in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Carter was runrunning out of money ahead of the must
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  Speaker 1: win Iowa primary. At that same time, the Almond Brothers
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  Speaker 1: were falling apart after the death of two of its
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  Speaker 1: members and news of the band's hard drug fueled living
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  Speaker 1: in the press. But Jimmy Carter did not turn his
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  Speaker 1: back on the Almond Brothers. He turned to the Almand Brothers.
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  Speaker 1: He told people that if they didn't think an Almand
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  Speaker 1: Brothers fans should be president, then they should vote for
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. The Almonds then agreed to host a benefit
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  Speaker 1: concert for the Carter campaign ahead of the Iowa primary.
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  Speaker 1: The concert turned Almonds fans young voters into Jimmy Carter fans,
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  Speaker 1: and created a cash windfall for the campaign. Carter was
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  Speaker 1: then able to flood the airwaves with ads and squeak
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  Speaker 1: into a first place finish in Iowa, a primary win
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  Speaker 1: that sparked Jimmy Carter's successful run for president, America's first
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll president. All Right, I love that story,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of your politics. Who gives a shit rock and
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  Speaker 1: roll helping a dude get elected to president in the
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventies. It's totally different story.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: We've obviously come a long way in society and cultural norms,
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  Speaker 1: but back then that was a big fucking deal. And
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  Speaker 1: I like how, you know, say we look again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what anybody's politics are. I like how Carter
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I like all Myond Brothers fans.
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  Speaker 1: You got to understand how fucking conservative it was still
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  Speaker 1: back in the nineteen seventies and for you know, the
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  Speaker 1: guy running for president to put his balls on the
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  Speaker 1: line about his musical taste. I think that's fucking awesome
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  Speaker 1: when anybody does that. I love that, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: let's see Allman Brothers in this week's full episode. Coming
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  Speaker 1: up right after this bonus episode, our rewind episode on
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  Speaker 1: r Kelly, and then next week our new episode on
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  Speaker 1: Alice Bag from the Bags. Shit, man, I'm just realizing
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: it's not the bags. It's bags. I've been calling her.
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  Speaker 1: I've been calling it the bags for way too long.
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  Speaker 1: Forgive me, Alice. When you're listening to the Alice Bag episode,
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  Speaker 1: be thinking about underground music scenes. Okay, there have been
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  Speaker 1: some incredible underground music scenes throughout the history of rock
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  Speaker 1: and roll. This is almost too broad of a question,
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  Speaker 1: but the LA punk scene in the eighties one of
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  Speaker 1: the most influential music scenes of all time, and there
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  Speaker 1: have been some incredible ones, and the La one at
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  Speaker 1: that time was was very underground. Okay, we want to
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  Speaker 1: know about some of the bands that were essential to
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  Speaker 1: a scene. Okay, now, this might be some scene only
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  Speaker 1: you're familiar with a band. You you know, it's like
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  Speaker 1: you think of the Berkeley you know, Berkeley, California. If
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  Speaker 1: you think of that scene, right, Green Day and Rancid
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  Speaker 1: came out of that scene, they wouldn't have come out
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  Speaker 1: of that scene without a band that not many people
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  Speaker 1: know about called Operation Ivy. All right, that's what I
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  Speaker 1: mean by essential. Okay, the DC scene, the Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: Hardcore scene. Okay, everyone knows Minor Threat, everybody knows Fugazi, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But what about what about
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  Speaker 1: rights of spring? Okay, that's what I'm talking about. The
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  Speaker 1: essential bands that we may have overl looked, looked from
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  Speaker 1: from some of the most influential underground scenes. Doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be punk. Rock can be, blues, can be jazz.
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  Speaker 1: I was reading about this this jazz flutis the other
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  Speaker 1: day that I'd never heard of before. It is the
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  Speaker 1: first flute solo in modern music that wasn't classical. That
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  Speaker 1: type of thing. Hit me up six one seven nine
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  Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Essential bands from underground music.
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  Speaker 1: Let us know who you got, who you're listening to.
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  Speaker 1: Leave me a voicemail six one seven nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight, Send me a text six one
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  Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight. Email me
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  Speaker 1: Disgrace Sampod at gmail dot com. Hit us up on
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  Speaker 1: the socials at Disgrace Lampod, and you might hear your
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  Speaker 1: answer on next week's after party. I said, I got
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  Speaker 1: to take a quick break. Be back right after this
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  Speaker 1: with your voicemails, text, dms and more. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: you want to be a rock and roll star, then listen.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'll hear what you say, not what I say.
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  Speaker 1: What you say, I'm in the phone booth. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to repeat it. You know how it goes. You
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  Speaker 1: know where it is. It's across the hall. The numbers
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
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  Speaker 1: Last week's question of the week relative to our Disgrace
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  Speaker 1: Slad episode on The Alman Brothers was who is your
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  Speaker 1: favorite Southern rock band? Hey, let's go to Patty in
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  Speaker 1: the nine to seven.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Jake, it's Patty in the nine seven oh residing
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  Speaker 2: in the three h three, aspiring the four one five.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up a specific Southern rock band,
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  Speaker 2: the Aquarium Rescue Units with some pretty heavy players for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Jeff's Sipe apartment to two fifty eight,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest, if not the greatest drummer name
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  Speaker 2: of all time. Do you have, of course, Jimmy Herring
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  Speaker 2: later of Weds Britannic. I hope he's getting better. And
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  Speaker 2: we have o'tell the man from Egypt to Otil Burbridge,
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  Speaker 2: probably the greatest story of ever meeting a musician in
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  Speaker 2: my life. I'll save that for another day. And of
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  Speaker 2: course the ultimate Colonel Bruce Hampkin. Thanks all the disc
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  Speaker 2: goes up there for supporting this guy, and thank you
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  Speaker 2: Jake for giving us some amazing programming over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Keep going, keep crushing it.
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  Speaker 1: And roll it all right, Patty, listen. I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear that story, man, I want to. I want you
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  Speaker 1: to call back, and I want you to tell me
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  Speaker 1: that story. I also would like I would. I would
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  Speaker 1: prefer if you can, if you can. I know you're busy,
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  Speaker 1: I get it, but you know you've mentioned these these bands.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck you're talking about here, man,
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  Speaker 1: and that's because I have a gaping hole in my
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  Speaker 1: understanding of music. I don't know that I've even ever
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  Speaker 1: heard a widespread panic song. When I hear when somebody
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  Speaker 1: mentions widespread panic, you know what I think of I
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  Speaker 1: think of Eastbound and Down. I think it's the pilot
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  Speaker 1: episode when Kenny goes back home and he's doing blow
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  Speaker 1: with is buddy Clem in the in the back of
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  Speaker 1: the bar, and uh, I think there's snorting lines off
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  Speaker 1: of Burned Widespread Panic CD and Kenny's like he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know the band, and Clem's like, I'll get I'll make
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  Speaker 1: you a mix, man, I'll just get you the choice snugs.
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  Speaker 1: One of the funniest scenes I've ever seen in any
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  Speaker 1: television show ever. And I don't think they're dising widespread panic.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're actually, you know, into widespread panic. But
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard widespread panic. So for me to fully
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the Aquarium Rescue Unit, I gotta I gotta, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta know where this all goes too, or come or
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So hit me up and
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  Speaker 1: just tell you one song, Patty, one song to start with.
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  Speaker 1: Give me a widespread panic song, one of those, and
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  Speaker 1: then give me one more, actually two songs the Aquarium
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  Speaker 1: Rescue Unit. Just give me a starting point. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you all. Let's check out John and the eight
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  Speaker 1: oh five.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Jake really like to enjoy the podcast. It's great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And this is John from the eight oh five the
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  Speaker 2: Central Coast to California. Anyways, my favorite sound in a
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  Speaker 2: rock band. I was never really big and the Almond
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  Speaker 2: Brothers or definitely not like a Skinner, although it's in
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  Speaker 2: my age group. But I really liked the popish side,
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  Speaker 2: which is thirty eight Special and currently the newest one.
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  Speaker 2: I go crazy with Yesty Trucks. That's so good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Seeing them a couple of times live, They're great and
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  Speaker 2: I still want to know what year is the mellotron
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  Speaker 2: you're playing? All right, Thanks Jake, keep it up, great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: John, what's up, my man? I gotta say our tastes
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  Speaker 1: are pretty aligned on this. I like the poppier stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: I did not grow up an Almond Brothers fan or
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  Speaker 1: even you know. I had a brief Linyard Skinner moment
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  Speaker 1: when I was really young and getting into guitar, but
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  Speaker 1: it was fleeting, and whenever I hear thirty eight Special, man,
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  Speaker 1: I am fucking reaching for that volume. Knob. I've had
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  Speaker 1: the pleasure of seeing Tedesky Trucks live and having my
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  Speaker 1: face melted and good stuff. Appreciate the call, John, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Nine oh seven rights in on this subject, Hey, Jake.
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  Speaker 1: The southern rock band that popped into my mind first
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  Speaker 1: was thirty eight special. Well there you go, another thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight special. My friends and I spent many a night
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  Speaker 1: at the roller skating rink listening to their tunes as
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  Speaker 1: we circled the floor, and as I transitioned into early adulthood,
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  Speaker 1: my allegiance transferred to the Black Crows, especially Shake Your
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  Speaker 1: Money Maker, and for a modern take on the sound,
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  Speaker 1: you might want to check out BlackBerry Smoke. A colleague
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  Speaker 1: at work has their tunes playing in his classroom before
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  Speaker 1: and after school, as well as any time students are
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  Speaker 1: not in his room. Lisa from the nine oh seven Lisa,
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  Speaker 1: I think we got a rock and roll high school teacher. Lisa?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you are? I like it? Dig it
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  Speaker 1: eight one six rights in, Hey, Black Crows Southern rock,
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  Speaker 1: and they're my favorite and it's not even close. I
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  Speaker 1: love those guys. The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion is
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: an all time great album. It really is. It's really great.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Southern bands, Frank Beard from Ziezi Top died yesterday.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I got news of that. Rest in peace, mister Beard,
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  Speaker 1: Pma to your family. You know, Zzy Top obviously an
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  Speaker 1: incredible band. People are gonna say a lot of great
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: things about the band and about Frank Beard. You know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it's funny. They're from Texas, obviously, and I don't think
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of Texas bands as Southern bands. I think of them
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: as Texas bands. Like Texas has its own thing, and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that is in part because of Frank Beard and Zazy Top.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: They've defined their own complete niche inside of a niche
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Niche is the wrong word for
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: anything from Texas, because Texas is just big and figuratively
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: am literally, There's just something about Texas that makes it
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: fucking Texas and rest in peace. Frank Beard, one of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the great drummers from one of the greatest rock and
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: roll bands of all times, Easy Top seven to to
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  Speaker 1: oh Rima, writes in Rima from Joshua Tree Southern rock bands,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stretch to the classic definition with a few
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  Speaker 1: of these, but here's my short list. Rema Arizona is
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  Speaker 1: not the South, It's the Southwest. She does mention flat
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  Speaker 1: duo jets. I'll accept that. Steve Earl ah Tennessee, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Joe White, Yeah, definitely Southern. We send to Williams yep, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Meters okay, all right, The Oblivions I don't know
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  Speaker 1: enough about, nor do I know enough about the Grifters. Uhrima,
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  Speaker 1: All right, So back to the subject of the Almand Brothers,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: one of the most famous guitar solos in rock history.
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  Speaker 1: Exists because a black soul singer and a white hippie
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  Speaker 1: guitar player were not allowed to eat lunch together. In
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  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, Dwayne Allman was recording as a session
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  Speaker 1: guitarist at Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, with the
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  Speaker 1: Alman and Pickett were told to hang back at the
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  Speaker 1: studio because the diner that the rest of the band
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was heading to was still segregated. Now not only were
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: blacks not allowed, but long haired hippie guitar players were
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: frowned upon as well. Allman in Pickett used their time
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  Speaker 1: alone in the studio when they weren't at lunch to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: record the beatles Hey Jude. Dwayne Almond nailed the tune
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: in one take, and Eric Clapton heard Dwayne Almonds playing
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  Speaker 1: on Wilson pickets Hey Jude. Eric Clapton enlisted Dwayne Almond
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  Speaker 1: been forced to miss out on lunch that afternoon. Thought
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  Speaker 1: you guys to dig that little piece of music history.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. All right, welcome back.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: As we've been talking about Southern rock brother bands, Dwayne Almon,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't. I heard. It's good though. I heard that
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• 22:06
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  Speaker 1: was one of those things where I found the movie
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  Speaker 1: think there's lots of Ty Cobb's story that I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It just struck me as like, well, this is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I see where they're getting this. I think this is
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  Speaker 1: and wild that I guess you're his great granddaughter. That
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