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Miller and Condon 7-31-25 Hr 2 · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two welcome back Miller and Condon.
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It's the Iowa Sports Radio network headquartered here Des
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Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXNO momentarily Iowa State
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women's head basketball coach Bill Fennelly will join me
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coming up until just a little bit after 130.
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David Kaplan a little bonus Cappy here today with trade
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deadline coming up. We'll talk Cubs with cap
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centurion. Stone of eye makes that
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possible. We'll do Cappy here just past
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1:30. Well, as we said early in the
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week, one of my goals this week was going to was to be to talk
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to some old guys still in sports in the market.
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Sam Burnaby year #42 talked to him earlier in the week and the
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only coach that's still at his post that predated the advent of
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a sports talk radio in Des Moines is my next guest, Bill
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coach. Bill Finley.
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Coach, this is Ken Miller, good to talk to you.
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How are you, Coach? How's your summer going?
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I'm doing well, Ken, thanks for having me on.
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It's been busy, but good. A lot of stuff going on and it's
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hard to believe it's almost August.
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Unfortunately, I don't have my Cardinals in the hunt.
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The baseball's kind of faded away from me but but it's been
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busy. But excited to to finish up our
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summer workouts and get the fall here.
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It's time for college football. Yeah, indeed.
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We'll, we'll obviously save some time for for that, just because
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Toledo has been so good to Iowa State as far as their coaches go
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with yourself and Matt Campbell. But trade deadline, Jay, how
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close are you watching it? Your hardcore Cardinals fan?
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It's not their year. You're paying attention to it at
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all. Yeah, I, I really am, Danny,
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because you know, I, I, you knew it was going to come.
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Obviously they they got rid of Helsley and Steven Batts and I
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think there's they're really made the decision.
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They're just going to literally got the thing and start over.
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And, you know, you start looking at and go, who are all these
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prospects that they're signing? And you know, they traded Steven
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Mats for a AAA infielder from the Red Sox, which the current
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general manager of the Cardinals came from the Red Sox.
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I'm hoping he drafted a good guy there.
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But you know, the Cardinals just, they just need a complete
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reset, which is kind of odd for for a Cardinal fan to say, but
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it needed to happen and we'll see where it goes.
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I want to go back to within the Wayback Machine 1995 when you
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get to Iowa State. And I know I've read stuff over
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the years about the you still got the box score in your office
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the very first game that you coached and there was, I don't
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know, hundreds or 1000 people in the building.
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Obviously times have changed. But when you think back, Bill,
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to to 1995, when you first get the job and you take over and
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your coaching, what did you think you were getting into back
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in the day? Did you think that this was in a
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perfect world going to be a a long time destination in Ames or
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were you looking at it as just this is just the next step up
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the ladder? What were you thinking back in
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1995 when he took the job? Yeah, I don't know what I was
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thinking, to be honest with you when it happened.
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But you're right, I do have a box score.
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For all you older fans of my vintage, you know what a box
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score is? The young people don't know what
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that is, but it hangs by my door as I walk out every day.
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And the first game I coached at Iowa State, we had 310.
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That was the tennis. But no, Kenny, really when we
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got here, Gene Smith was our athletic director.
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He had a vision. We were getting ready to go into
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the Big 12. I, I was, I've been here so long
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that Colorado's back in the league.
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They were, they were in the Big Eight with us.
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But I, I really, I'm from Iowa, my eyes from Iowa.
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My, our parents were still alive at the time, obviously.
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And we just felt like this is where we wanted to live.
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We came here with a fifth and a first grader and I told my wife,
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I said let's come. We took a pay cut to come here,
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but we really wanted to live in the state of Iowa.
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And I told my wife, I said, babe, it doesn't work.
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You know, my brother owned a bar.
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I'll go 10 bar somewhere or something.
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That's kind of what happened. And we got really lucky that we
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had, we got a lot of good people early and a lot of people that
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invested in US and you know, it kind of grew from there.
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One of the things I I recall thinking back to late 90s, into
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the into the new century, I guess you call it, that was your
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your relationship with Dan McCartney.
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Still assumingly very close to this day, but both you and Coach
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Mack kind of arrive at the same time and you seemingly both
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gravitated to one another. Yeah, we did both crazy Irish
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guys and you know, I came in about 3 or 4 months after Coach
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Mack and we did, we spent a lot of time together.
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Truly one of the most amazing people I've ever been around.
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I tell people all the time. And I mean he's, you know, if he
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died with five true friends in your life, you're going to die a
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lucky person. And Dan McCartney is one of my
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5:00. And if we would not have built
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this thing, built the attendance without Coach Mack, He he was
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so, you know, he's the most enthusiastic, positive guy ever.
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And he really helped me out a lot and helped helped us grow
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this. But you know, 2-2 guys that
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similar in age that came back home and tried to build
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something in a place that most people thought was impossible.
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And it just seemed like our personalities, our vision meshed
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and we became very good friends. I talked to him all the time and
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he is truly special and helped us do something that I think a
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lot of people didn't think that happened.
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And certainly what he did for our football program is going to
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be well documented forever. Yep, no doubt about it.
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The other thing, your staff, I mean Jody Starr, been there a
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long time, but the continuity in a coaching staff coach, what
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does that mean to a program? You know, Kenny, I think it's
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you. You know, it's really hard to
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do. We found the right people that
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fit. We fit each other on and off the
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floor. We've got a lot of people have
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been with us. Coach Dyer been with me forever.
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Coach Haven, we recruited and played for us at Toledo.
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Obviously my son Billy's on our staff.
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Josh Carper is an Iowa State guy, married one of my former
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players. So people who love Iowa State,
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love the Midwest, love the culture, love where they are,
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and we've been lucky. You know, I think that that over
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time we've we've managed to grow together and then through all
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the changes, but amazing people that have contributed so much to
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not just our program, but to the community.
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And that's been we've been blessed.
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It's they're tremendous people and I've never been around a
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staff that's that's more connected.
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And I think it shows in the kind of kids we recruit and the kind
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of and the way we've tried to build this thing.
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And those kids grow up to be adults.
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And it's it's not lost on me, coach, that when you guys have
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and you know, you honor a former team or there's an occasion that
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you want to get some of your former players to come back.
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How many of a show up and be with that coaching staff that's
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still been in place? I mean, they, they know that
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your staff, but it amazes me just how many of the women that
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you've coached make their way back to Ames when you put out
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the call. Yeah, they do.
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And we have a huge reunion every year and it seems just grow and
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grow. And, you know, when you go to
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college, you know, you make lifelong friends and we still
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have players that, you know, they graduated 20 years ago and
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they go on vacation together and have a girls weekend.
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And, and now we're to the stage of life where they all have
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kids. And, you know, so it's like,
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it's like a huge family reunion. There's more and more little
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little guys running around. And now you're starting to talk
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about recruiting the daughters of your players.
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It's like, OK, now, now we're getting to a whole nother level.
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But they love Iowa State. They love their time here.
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And that's, that's a big part to watch them grow and, and be
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successful in life. But yeah, they love to come back
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to Ames. We always try and do it where
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there's a men's and women's game, where there's a football
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game. So they all come back.
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And we're really blessed to have those people, not just in our
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life when they played here, but now that they're, you know,
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grown adults and, and being successful, we, we love to be
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reconnected. With them, Iowa State women's
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basketball coach Bill Fedley. Fedley joining me here on the
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Iowa Sports Radio Network. I want to go back 25 years or
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so. I remember that Bob Dyer and I
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are working together. You knew Bob well you I credit
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give him a ton of credit for my career.
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Just what he how he helped me. And I remember one of our
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conversation with Bob, but it would periodically would come up
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with paying the players, etcetera.
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And I always thought that there probably needs to be something
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come their way. I didn't know would get to this
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point. Do you like the NIL era that
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we're in now? Obviously, I believe the players
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deserve it. I really do.
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But just the fact that I mean, you, you essentially have to re
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recruit your roster some years, I'm guessing.
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I mean, I know that Audie Crooks had opportunities to leave.
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She stayed, which is great for you, but do you like this new
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layer of college sports? You know, Katie, I, I don't, I
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don't want to say that I like it.
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I do think you're right. I think the players deserve some
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compensation. You know, name, image and
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likeness has turned into pay for play, which is created a lot of
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anxiety. And then when you combine that
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with the transfer portal, it really is hard to manage.
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And you're right. We you spend a lot of time, you
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know, most coaches always talk about recruiting.
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I mean, when we were on the cycle Tailgate tour became a
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joke that, you know, if everyone took a drink from when a coach
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said retention, they'd all be, you know, hungover and sick the
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next day because, yeah, I mean, retention has become a huge part
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of it. And how do you do that?
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How do you manage the money? And now with the new system that
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the incident of life put in, it's going to create a whole
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nother level of, you know, trying to figure it out.
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What are the league's doing now? You have the federal government
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involved in legislation, and it's an ongoing thing.
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And I think there's ways to do it.
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There's going to have to be people a heck of a lot smarter
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than me to figure it out. But right now it's it's very
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volatile and I don't know the best way to figure it out.
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But there something has to be done unless we just go to they
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become, you know, they collectively bargain and you
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know, they, you know, the NCAA does not want them to be
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employees. And you know, everyone's got a
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different way of looking at it, But there's there's certainly a
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lot of issues. College college athletics is so
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special. And I mean, I'm a fanatical
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college football fan. And, you know, I just really
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hate that That could go away. The, you know, The Saturdays and
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all the college basketball that people love, March Madness.
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Those are things that make, you know, sports in our country.
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I'm not a hockey guy, Kenny. All right, that's fine.
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I can't comment on that the past, even though I do watch the
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Stanley Cup Playoffs, which is insane to me.
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But I hope, I hope they can come up with some kind of model that
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balances providing what the student athletes deserve and
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keeping some level of integrity in a collegiate situation.
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I want to talk about your athletic director, Jamie
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Pollard. You mentioned the Cyclone
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tailgate tours. I'm not sure who's that idea
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that was, but they've obviously just been a massive hit.
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I'll never forget the billboards.
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It was great for business, for what I do.
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It was just phenomenal. So Jamie Pollard and how he's
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changed things in your eyes at Iowa State since, you know, he's
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been running the athletic department.
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The tailgate Tour, Kenny was Jamie's plan.
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He we wanted to get away from what I've been here so long.
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It was, it used to be golf outings and basically it was a
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bunch of 40 to 60 year old white guys, play golf, hangout, tell
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stories. And he really wanted to get to
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the families involved and kids. And I think that's been the
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biggest thing is to see all the kids and those kids are going to
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be future students, future fans, future donors, hopefully.
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But Jamies vision was, you know, obviously our facilities have
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been great. You know, used to always say you
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can't change, you know, whether you can't change the amount of
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people. So you got to figure out
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facilities. How do you draw people into to
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what you're about? Hire the right coaches, you
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know, do it the right way. Now we have Saitown that he has
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been promoting and really pushing through, which is
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exciting for not just Iowa State but for our community for
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Central Iowa. But you know, I think Jamie will
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certainly go down in history as one of the greatest athletic
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directors in at any school. And I think his impact here will
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be felt for a long, long time. And he's done some really,
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really special things. There's still challenges
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obviously ahead for all of us, but you want great leadership at
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a critical time with Jamie and Doctor Winterstein.
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We're in good spot right now and a lot of stuff to go ahead, but
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I know they'll have a great plan for.
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Doctor Winterstein, of course, she's retiring.
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When you've had the presidents or chancellors, what you know
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leave, how important is it for you and your fellow coaching
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brother and to make sure that that you know who's ever going
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to sit in that seat likes enjoy sports and is into sports and
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realizes how impactful sports is to the campus.
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Kenny, that's a great, great question.
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Great point. It's critical.
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It really is. You know, Gene Smith used to
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always tell me that that athletics is the front porch of
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the house. There is a sports talk radio.
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There is. Well, I'm told there used to be
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a sports page that ever, but that was I've got my news, you
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know, read, get up, read your, read your local sports page.
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Or the. Don't you miss that?
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Oh, I miss the USA TODAY. Is huge.
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A must for me and, and I do miss that, but so sports is a part of
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it. It's, you know, there's 65,000
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people in a football game and men's basketball game and
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women's basketball games draw well.
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So yeah, you need a president who who values it.
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Doesn't mean it's the most important thing, obviously not,
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but it does draw eyes to the university.
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It does draw people who want to donate and be a part of it.
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So I think that that's absolutely critical that that
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our new president is a leader that values what the athletic
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department can bring to the university.
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There is, you know, on a national stage, because that is
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something that you know, you can't that, that marketing, it's
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hard. You couldn't pay for that, you
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know, to see what our football team did, see what men's
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basketball did, you know, the the names and faces.
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It's just a, a ridiculously important part of the the
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landscape of any university. And you know, it's been proven
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when when sports are good, enrollment goes up.
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I mean, that's a, that's a given admin applications go up and you
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see it at schools all across the country.
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And certainly we hope that the, the new leader falls in that
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thought process. And, and I'm, I'm hoping that
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that'll be the way that the the Regents look when they, when we
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try and hire a new president. What's it like to see the growth
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of the game that you've been involved in for so long?
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NCAA payments are going up for the tournament.
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Better television now for the term is still a ways to go.
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And hopefully you'll get to that point where it's even
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unbalanced. But, but that's something that
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you've had to watch very closely and you can see it, I believe at
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least I'm, I'm anxious to hear your take.
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Moving in the right direction. Equality with the men's and the
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women. No, it's definitely gotten
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better, obviously. And I think when you look at the
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television and the attention that it's getting, it's good.
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I mean, obviously it's not ever going to be on par with men's
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basketball, football, because that's where the money is
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generated. We all understand that, but I
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think it is something that's gotten better.
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And I think, you know, there's value when you look at
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sponsorships and television contracts.
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People are sitting in boardrooms saying, OK, there is an economic
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value to me, to our company, to our to our viewership to have
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women's sports on TV, especially in our world, you know,
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collegiate basketball, you see how big softball's gotten.
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So I think it's just going to continue to grow.
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And certainly it's something that we're excited to see.
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And then hopefully that that will continue to have a spot on
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a national spotlight. And I do think any it's going to
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be there and it's going to be more consistent and it'll find
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its level, you know, and certainly hope that will
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continue for the for the young people coming up that want those
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opportunities. You mentioned summer workouts.
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What kind of team you going to have this year, coach?
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I think we have a chance to be good.
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I really do. We're very junior dominated
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team. We added a couple of portal kids
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that needed. We got to get healthy like a lot
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of people. But I do think we have a team
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that can compete at a very high level.
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I like the demeanor of our team. I like the way they've done
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about their business and I do think we have a chance to be a
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really, really good team. And you know, who knows where
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that takes us? But you know, when you play in a
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league like our good league and you look at, you know,
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unbalanced schedules and all, you know, when you play them,
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where do you play them? How healthy are you?
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Those kinds of things all come up.
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Basketball is so different than football as far as the number of
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games, obviously, and opportunities.
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But I love our team. I love what they're about.
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I love the way they've gone about their business this
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summer. And I look forward to to get
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them all together and when we start practice end of September.
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A couple more minutes, I'll let you go.
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I want to go back to Audie Crooks.
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Her freshman year did. Did you think that she was going
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to have the impact as a as a freshman that she did because
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she got everybody's attention and did so very quickly.
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Were you expecting that, coach? No, OK, I'm not going to lie to
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you. No, I knew she would have an
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impact on our team. I knew she was unique.
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I knew she was an amazing kid, raised very well, was coached
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very well coming up. But but she made a big, big
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jump. We did a summer tour the year,
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that summer and I think we saw some things in her.
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And then obviously what she did last year is, you know, so I
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think anyone maybe besides audio said, oh, I knew she'd be this
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good. They're not telling the truth
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because I don't think anyone saw that.
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But she's a great kid, great player, great ambassador for our
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state and certainly for our program, but a very unique and
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special talent and we're we're proud of what she's accomplished
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and looking forward to what they had the next.
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Two years and War USA across their jersey earlier this
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summer. That's spectacular, coach.
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Nobody's pushing you out. Do you have a, I mean, how will
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you know when it when it's time? Obviously you sound like you're
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energized. You can't wait for this to
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happen. It sounds like it's not here
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yet. But you know if Father Time
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catches up with all of us, right?
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Have you given it any thought? Are you at that point yet?
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Yeah, OK, I have not. You know, you're right.
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Father time is undefeated is my father used to always tell me.
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But, you know, as long as I feel good and I feel like the
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university is is supporting us and we can continue to bring
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people into our building that represent Iowa State, central
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Iowa the way they should. I, you know, I don't know, I
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think I just turned 68, so I'm not young, but I got more.
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I have more yesterday's than tomorrow's, I guess.
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But I really look forward to the challenges ahead and seeing
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where this thing goes. You know, obviously the new
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president and where work, collegiate sport goes.
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It's been my entire life and I really wanted to see what
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happens next. But I'm ready to keep going.
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And hopefully, like you said, hopefully somebody doesn't knock
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on the door and say it's time for you to go.
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I'm not quite ready for that yet, but it's been fun and I you
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know how this sports is so unique and different and being
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around young people every day keeps you going and I'm excited
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about the future. I enjoyed this coach.
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Thanks for popping on. Give me a few minutes please.
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You look back at your career. Well done coach.
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Friendly appreciated. Many more to come.
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Thank you, Bill. Danny, thank you and tell PC
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thanks. You guys do a great job for all
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of us and we we love listening to you guys take.
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Care Yep thank you coach bill Fenley long time coach Iowa
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State women's basketball fun conversation with coach Fenley
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and hope he does have many more years ahead of him as he heads
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in now to year 31. I want to say 1995 was when he
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got the gig. Well done, coach Fenley.
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All right, we will hear from David Kaplan coming up next.
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Fingers crossed Kapi will join me.
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I'm watching the X and the ESPN trade tracker, if you will.
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Still waiting unless I miss something for the for the Cubs
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is are they going to make a move?
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Is Alcantra in their future? Mackenzie Gore?
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They're going to be able to get their starter at any point.
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We shall see. But Kathy, he's going to
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schedule to join me next. Hopefully he can pull that off
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when we come back. Miller and Conn again, thank you
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to coach Bill Finley. Enjoyed that a bunch.
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Miller and Conn, it's the Iowa sports radio Network.
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Hi Miller and Conn and then welcome back just past 130 on a
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Thursday. I'll take you until 2:00 coming
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up with two off the bench Lucas strain.
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I have not seen Lucas yet so I didn't forgot to ask him who
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he's working with who is Co hosting with today.
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Maybe I Colts back in he has been the last two days but we'll
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find out during the next break. But regardless whoever he's with
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it's coming up at the top of the hour.
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Speaking of coming up hopefully David Kaplan will have a few
21:36
minutes. I do a lot of media in Chicago
21:39
here today with the trade deadline.
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Although what the hell he's talking about because the Cubs
21:43
have done squat. Not a damn thing.
21:46
Kittridge yesterday, Nice player.
21:47
Don't get me wrong, nice player, will fit into the bullpen just
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fine. But man, we were kind of
21:53
expecting a splash, were we not? Mackenzie Gore, maybe Alcantra,
21:58
who's been better as of late. But man, he's had a
22:00
disappointing season. We'll, we'll see where it goes.
22:03
We'll see if Hoyer's got something up his sleeve if he
22:05
does, because the trade deadline is coming up at 5 o'clock 5:00
22:11
Central Time. It all ends very light night of
22:14
baseball tonight, and I have to believe it's in part A, because
22:18
of trade deadline day, but B, maybe because football elbows
22:22
its way into the conversation. The NFL is back tonight.
22:27
It's the Hall of Fame game. Look, you won't glean very much,
22:31
if anything, from it. I think Trey Lance is actually
22:35
starting for the Chargers in the game.
22:37
Boy, oh, boys, he fallen on some hard time, right?
22:40
Never got that opportunity. He was, if memory serves, I
22:43
think the COVID year really stunted.
22:46
Not that he was sick, his progression, because obviously
22:50
they lost a year of football at the FCS level.
22:54
And you know, who knows what that would have meant to his
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career. And then obviously, he was
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drafted very highly by the Niners.
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In fact, I think they give up a draft pick of all things, they
23:04
to move up and get him. And we know it turned out that
23:08
Brock Purdy is now getting his mail there.
23:10
And I saw he and his wife welcomed a baby girl.
23:13
Brock Purdy did, but we'll see. It's the Chargers tonight.
23:15
You won't see Herbert. I don't think you'll see very
23:18
many of the guys on either side of the football.
23:20
But you know what you're going to see the NFL and the brand is
23:23
going to be back on our televisions.
23:25
Brent Musburger apparently is going to be in the booth.
23:28
He was or is this year's recipient, I think they call it
23:34
the Pete Rozelle Media Awards. So they'll there's a wing for
23:37
media and Brett Musburger's going in his last gig, I believe
23:44
was the radio voice of the LA Charger, I beg your pardon, of
23:49
the Las Vegas Raiders. So Musburger's going to be there
23:53
and he'll be there. He'll hear his voice.
23:58
And you know, he still reeks of college football to me.
24:01
And I love that about him. I thought he was very good at
24:03
it. But you know what?
24:03
Fowler's grown on me. He has that's a pretty good duo
24:06
in the booth, him and him and Kirk Kerb St.
24:09
All right, David Kaplan momentarily, we'll recap what
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there is to recap with Cap. When it comes to the trade
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deadline, the Cubs have been very quiet so far, seemingly.
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What's going on behind the scenes?
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What is Cappy hearing? And the Cap man, he joins us.
24:24
Let's get right to him. We'll save the music for
24:26
Wednesday is his Wednesday music.
24:28
But he's with us and cheering Stone of Iowa sponsors.
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Cap, thanks for giving me a few minutes.
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I know you're torn a lot, pulled in a lot of directions here
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today. What?
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What are you hearing? I guess I kind of think there's
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more to come. Is there more to come?
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Cap? Well, he's trying.
24:44
I know he's trying hard on Mackenzie Gore and I know that
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he was trying on Eugenio Suarez. That did not work out because he
24:54
was unwilling to part with what I think he wants to use in
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another deal. And then the other thing is they
25:01
were in hard on Shane Bieber, but you would have to give up
25:05
Jackson Wiggins in that deal. I'm not doing that because, and
25:09
I love Shane Bieber. Shane Bieber hasn't pitched one
25:13
throw at the big league level since having Tommy John.
25:16
He's looked good in AA. So you want me to give you a 22
25:20
year old who this is their words, not mine.
25:23
They believe he will be at some point next season on the big
25:27
league roster. OK, so if that's the case, if
25:30
he's going to be pitching for the Cubs next year with let's
25:34
say he comes up, let's call it May, like Kate Horton, and
25:38
you're telling me that that dude then I have for the rest of next
25:42
season and six more and you want me to roll the dice on a guy who
25:47
I think he's healthy and back from Tommy John, but I'm not
25:52
positive. Like if you said I got to give
25:54
up Jackson Wiggins and I'm getting Mackenzie Gore, OK, I
25:58
got two more years of control, I could probably extend him now.
26:02
That probably has some merit to it.
26:06
I wouldn't like to do it, but when you want to get a #1
26:09
starter and try and win a World Series, like if I if 5:00 comes
26:13
and they say we're done, we did nothing else than Mike Soroka
26:16
and Andrew Kittredge. Jed's a really nice guy, but I'm
26:20
going to blast him because I do not want to hear.
26:23
The prices were just stupid and we couldn't rash.
26:27
Then why did you trade for Kyle Tucker over the winter?
26:29
That will be my question, because you said we're all in to
26:33
try and win the World Series. So we're going to give up Cam
26:35
Smith, we're going to give up this Hoc Paradis, we're going to
26:39
give up five years or four years of control on Hayden Wisnetsky.
26:43
Then why did you do that if you're not all in?
26:46
Because your team's good enough to take a run at it.
26:49
So either put on your big boy pants and trade somebody or do
26:53
not make the Kyle Tucker deal because we're not serious about
26:56
winning. Will you be shocked if own
26:59
Casey's still down here in Des Moines after the trade deadline
27:02
today? Well if they make a big deal
27:05
I'll be shocked if own Casey isn't a part of it now.
27:07
I just saw the Mark Fine Sand report a little while ago where
27:12
he said, I don't know if you saw it.
27:14
He said that rival teams are saying that the Cubs are
27:18
refusing to put Moises by a sterile into a deal.
27:22
And so that is why the Cubs haven't gotten anything done
27:26
yet. OK, I was there yesterday.
27:28
I was in Milwaukee tangling with Brewer fans.
27:30
If you were watching my Instagram.
27:32
And I love that he got a big bases clearing, bases loaded
27:37
double. That was awesome.
27:39
He's 21 years old. So is that the guy I want
27:43
hitting against Mason Miller, potentially in the NLCS against
27:48
the San Diego Padres? Again, maybe I'll be proving,
27:52
you know, wrong and that that dude's going to like Mason
27:54
Miller at 104.1 the other day? I don't think so.
27:59
So why can the San Diego Padres keep adding and adding and
28:03
adding and adding and the Chicago Cubs are going to give
28:07
me Andrew Kittridge and Mike Soroka and that's it.
28:10
I refuse to believe he won't do something else by 5.
28:13
O'clock yeah, I got to believe it as well, Cap, but I'm with
28:15
you on by Sterils. Look, he's a DH in the in the
28:18
major leagues. He's not a catcher.
28:19
He can't play on field. I doubt he can be first a first
28:22
baseman. He's a designated here and it
28:24
may workout, but I'm shocked when I saw that that same report
28:28
that you did, I thought I just got, you know, put my head in my
28:30
hands and couldn't believe that this is at least where they
28:34
possibly were going. All right, let's talk about
28:36
yesterday. We'll get back to the trade
28:37
deadline. One of my concerns and you kind
28:39
of not you brushed it off it for the most part and I think you
28:42
were proven right yesterday was Imonaga.
28:44
You just thought it was 1 bad start.
28:46
I thought the velocity going in the wrong direction was kind of
28:49
a not that not the best of signs.
28:51
Thought he was really good. Only got through 5 but 8
28:53
strikeouts. Cap Imonaga looked good
28:55
yesterday. Your thoughts?
28:57
Yeah, I mean, I thought he looked really good, but he's
29:00
never going to be a guy at 97 that's going to blow you away if
29:04
it's not who he is. That's not that guy.
29:07
But he got 8 strikeouts. He did give up the two home runs
29:10
to William Contreras, but other than that, I thought he made big
29:14
pitches in big spots and I was super cool with how he pitched
29:19
and. You know you've woken up.
29:22
And had days just like I have in this business where I went yeah
29:26
God, my throat or my voice just isn't as strong.
29:30
I've had to record commercials and walked in by man I don't
29:34
know how you can get through this thing commercial and it's
29:38
it's a challenge that can happen to his art.
29:42
You wake up and go I slept wrong on it.
29:44
Oh my, velocity doesn't mean he blew on his rotator calf either.
29:49
Palencia, if he is the closer cap, I've said this for the last
29:52
month or so, I think he's fine. I do.
29:55
I know he hasn't had the, you know, the experience of pitching
29:58
a closing a game in the playoffs for you knows Mason Miller on
30:02
one side and Palencia on the other coming in to to finish off
30:06
the game. Would you be cool with Palencia
30:08
if they if they don't find a closer and it doesn't look as
30:11
though they're going to as seemingly most of the targets
30:13
have found their way elsewhere. Yeah, I'm cool with him, but my
30:18
question is it's the 7th or the 8th inning and here comes, let's
30:23
pick a name killer comes Shohei Otani, the bat for the Dodgers
30:29
and there's two men on and I've got a three to two lead.
30:33
OK, I got Caleb Theobar. He's OK, he's fine.
30:37
I don't have Mason Miller, I don't have Edwin Diaz, I don't
30:41
have Helsley. Who's the other guy?
30:43
They just got Ryan Helsley. I don't have Joan Duran.
30:46
Like I'm looking at all the other teams are on baseball and
30:49
going. They're serious about winning.
30:51
They are all in to try and win. Now, if you told me the Cubs
30:55
were a 500 team and they're 2 back of the last wild card, OK,
31:01
You don't want to push all in because you don't believe your
31:04
team's good enough. OK, I'm cool with that.
31:07
Your team by the end of the first place again, I mean, you
31:11
have a really, really good baseball team.
31:14
So the fact that if if this is what it is, I again, I like Chad
31:19
very much. I think he's a very good guy
31:21
when he's a really smart guy. If they do nothing, that is a
31:25
slap in the face of a great fan base.
31:28
Speaking of that fan base, will they be cool with the match off?
31:31
He's the third baseman going forward this year.
31:34
Yeah, I think they absolutely will.
31:35
And I don't think there's many Cub fans that would trade Matt
31:39
Shaw. I don't care who you're getting,
31:41
I'm not giving him up. I got this dude just came up
31:44
this year. He's going to fall short of
31:46
service time this year. And so here I've got six more
31:51
years of control for a guy who I think is really good defensively
31:56
and is going to be a really good hitter.
31:58
He's starting to show flashes of it.
32:01
And you want me to give that guy up?
32:03
I'm not doing that. All right, I gave up Cam Smith
32:06
already. I've traded away Paradis
32:08
already. So who is going to be my third
32:11
baseman? Where am I getting one?
32:13
He's there. Matt Shaw, I'm with you.
32:15
Matthew Boyd. First bad outing of the year.
32:18
Just draw a line through it Cap. Yeah, I don't have any problem
32:22
with it. I haven't heard anything in
32:24
terms of a health concern. Yeah, I got no issues.
32:28
They had one bad start. That happens.
32:31
You know, I like Freddy Peralta. He was terrible.
32:33
Yeah. He was, he was bad.
32:34
Luis Robert. Is he going to move from the
32:36
White Sox? It's from what the call I made
32:39
about an hour ago to somebody who's over there, he said.
32:44
Right now I would bet you that he stays.
32:47
Now my question is, are you picking up his $20 million
32:51
option? You must.
32:53
Now they have as much payroll flexibility as anyone because
32:56
they pay nobody. So if you're going to look at
32:59
Luis Robert, who has had a really good month of July, if
33:02
you're going to keep Luis Robert, now you have to pick up
33:06
the $20 million option. Otherwise, what are you doing?
33:09
Yeah, I agree. With you Not like you can get a
33:11
qualifying offer. You either pick it up or he's a
33:13
free agent. Yep.
33:13
Walks out the door. Adrian Houser saw him pitch
33:16
against the Cubs. Is he?
33:18
Is he potentially? Could he be a Cub?
33:21
Would you be floored? I would be floored because he's
33:25
not good enough to start a playoff game in my opinion.
33:28
He's a nice back end starter. That's it.
33:32
So I just got Mike Soroka. Why do I need Adrian Hauser?
33:35
Yeah, that fair. So the we're getting back Assad
33:38
and I'm getting back Ty. Tyon, yeah.
33:41
So I've got a plethora of mediocrity coming back.
33:44
That's. Her mediocrity.
33:47
Good stuff. Well, Cap, will you put a recap
33:49
up at some point tonight if indeed we get the six O clock
33:52
and there's nothing in the queue?
33:54
There will be a live trade deadline show that my partner
33:58
Ryan Mcguffey is doing at 4:30 on our channel, but I will do a
34:04
baseball trade deadline, Cubs, White Sox recap that will be up
34:09
tonight. I'm going to guess 7:30 or so.
34:13
I'm going to put it up maybe 8:00 as soon as all the deals
34:16
have been processed. You know how like 1/2 hour?
34:17
Later takes a while there's. Another deal.
34:19
So I'll wait for MLB to go. All right, we're done.
34:22
Everything's been processed, then I will record and we'll put
34:25
it up. And last thing for you, just
34:27
because it was there was so much confusion around Ian, happy he's
34:30
going to the IL. Well, he's not going to the IL,
34:31
but he's going to miss some time.
34:33
Well, he didn't miss. Any time he comes in, he hits a
34:35
home run yesterday. Was that the media that ran with
34:38
that or I mean, how was everybody so wrong on Ian
34:41
happened? What?
34:42
That was marquee. Is that what it was that out?
34:45
Yeah, somebody at Marquee put out Ian Hap to the IL and The
34:49
funny thing is I was at work today at radio and a friend of
34:51
mine comes up to me and he said, you know why I was having drinks
34:55
with the other night? I said who?
34:57
Yes, two nights ago, yesterday afternoon I said who?
35:01
He said Ian Haps brother and they were watching the game and
35:04
he said the brother turned away for a second and then he said,
35:09
dude, your brother just hit a home run.
35:10
He's like what? No, my father's on the IL.
35:14
No. That's unbelievable, Capra.
35:18
Thanks for doing this, buddy. Appreciate the relationship.
35:20
We'll talk to you next Wednesday.
35:21
Thank you, Capra. What?
35:23
You didn't even ask me. That's day of camp for Caleb
35:26
Williams. Luther Burden, Colston level.
35:28
Yeah, they were killing. It all of those youngsters, huh?
35:31
The two Rook? I'd be the two rookies.
35:32
Wow. Yep, and Caleb, best day of the
35:35
camp. Good stuff.
35:37
Thank you, pal. We'll talk to you Wednesday.
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36:43
Final couple of minutes coming up top of the hour off the
36:46
bench, Lucas Strain flying solo for his three hour stint here
36:50
today and he's got Bill Seals on Iowa State, Ellie Clef on the
36:54
Hawks, Bill Bender on college football and some other Nuggets
36:58
up his sleeve. So off the bench coming up from
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2:00 until 5:00 and then overtime, Iowa 5 until 6A.
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Little snippet from the first quarter with Alec and Heather
37:11
from the Miller and Condon show, and then likewise a little
37:14
snippet from Lucas''s program, which starts at the top of the
37:18
hour. Thank you, Tyler Allen, for
37:20
sitting in here with me today. It's been a lot of fun.
37:24
We'll continue to monitor the trade deadline if indeed
37:26
anything does shake. There's been another closer
37:31
changing addresses Bednar, the talented closer from the
37:35
Pirates. Not very busy closer, not needed
37:38
a whole bunch. But he is now going to the, I
37:41
think it's the Yankees where he's going to call home.
37:44
So they're making some moves. The Cubs, you're up.
37:50
Bednar Weaver and Devin Williams at the back of that bullpen for
37:54
the Yankees. Boy, bullpen arms in high demand
37:59
as the trade deadline now moves to three hours away.
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