Latest / Ron Verb / The Ron Verb Show - 3pm Hour Tuesday - 07/21/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Well, Heidi Ho,
- 0:06Speaker 1: hopefully all systems are go here. 3.06 in the afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Ron Verb on this Tuesday, July 21st. And it's comfortable
- 0:14Speaker 1: outside today.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Cloudy.
- 0:15Speaker 3: We've had some rain over at my place this morning
- 0:18Speaker 3: in my neck of the woods here. 75 degrees. Nice
- 0:21Speaker 3: to be with you here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. If
- 0:25Speaker 3: you missed yesterday's program, you missed.
- 0:27Speaker 2: A good one.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I mean, when we were talking about Poland Library, lots
- 0:31Speaker 3: to talk about with that particular situation.
- 0:34Speaker 2: And plenty to.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Talk about when it comes to the situation with Iran.
- 0:41Speaker 3: It is just a mess. And we'll get into that
- 0:48Speaker 3: on part of the broadcast here today, because I'm going
- 0:51Speaker 3: to tell you, it is, as I said, it doesn't
- 0:53Speaker 3: matter whether you're a Trumpster or not. You're not here
- 0:58Speaker 3: to say that it's OK to disagree with somebody that
- 1:01Speaker 3: you voted for. As I said to you before, I
- 1:04Speaker 3: don't know that I've necessarily agreed with anyone 100 percent
- 1:07Speaker 3: of the time.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Including Trump.
- 1:11Speaker 4: So.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I'll say it again.
- 1:14Speaker 3: This situation in Iran is a mess. It's an absolute mess.
- 1:18Speaker 3: And he started it. It's an absolute mess. And he
- 1:23Speaker 3: started this mess. And I'm going to tell you, I'm
- 1:26Speaker 3: concerned as time goes on where this is heading. As
- 1:30Speaker 3: far as all of us economically speaking and the price
- 1:33Speaker 3: of a barrel of oil. And what you're going to
- 1:36Speaker 3: pay at the gasoline pump. And so we shall see
- 1:39Speaker 3: as time goes on where this heads.
- 1:41Speaker 2: But... It's not looking.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Good right now, and it could head in a direction economically,
- 1:47Speaker 3: I'm speaking, where it's going to be very painful for
- 1:51Speaker 3: all of us here in this country and, frankly, in
- 1:54Speaker 3: the world. We'll talk about that coming up, so stay tuned.
- 1:57Speaker 3: You don't want to miss that. But first, some callers' participation.
- 2:01Speaker 3: You're on the air.
- 2:01Speaker 5: Hello.
- 2:03Speaker 3: Hello, Ron.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Yes.
- 2:04Speaker 6: Got a copy on you. I think you're wrong about this.
- 2:11Speaker 6: in some respects, though.
- 2:13Speaker 2: You think I'm wrong about what?
- 2:16Speaker 6: Well, like, the libraries were... A lot of these buildings
- 2:19Speaker 6: were publicly funded, number one. So they weren't using tax dollars.
- 2:28Speaker 5: Service.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Your phone's breaking up a little bit. Turn around or
- 2:33Speaker 3: something or go walk outside so that I can hear
- 2:35Speaker 3: you loud and clear.
- 2:37Speaker 6: Oh, I said the library... buildings were privately funded, like
- 2:43Speaker 6: the main library. That wasn't tax dollars. That was a
- 2:47Speaker 6: privately funded building.
- 2:50Speaker 2: In downtown Youngstown?
- 2:52Speaker 7: Yes.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Yes.
- 2:53Speaker 6: It wasn't, that wasn't tax dollars. So people aren't, they
- 2:56Speaker 6: don't know it. They don't know the whole story about
- 2:59Speaker 6: the library. All right, so.
- 3:02Speaker 3: You're talking the original structure, or are you talking the
- 3:05Speaker 3: $ 25 million that they put in renovations?
- 3:07Speaker 6: The $ 25 million. The $ 25 million was privately funded.
- 3:10Speaker 2: By who?
- 3:13Speaker 6: I don't know. I just know for a fact it
- 3:15Speaker 6: was not publicly funded.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Well, then tell me by who funded it.
- 3:20Speaker 6: I bet I don't know. I don't know the specifics
- 3:26Speaker 6: of it, but I know that was it. I would
- 3:29Speaker 6: rather give to the library than give to Israel or
- 3:33Speaker 6: give to this stupid war. At least they provide the
- 3:36Speaker 6: service to the local community.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Well, this is where I totally disagree with you.
- 3:40Speaker 3: First of all, I don't know that that statement you
- 3:43Speaker 3: made is accurate at all, but I will definitely.
- 3:45Speaker 6: Check on that. It is accurate.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Check on that.
- 3:47Speaker 2: It's accurate. I don't know that that's accurate.
- 3:50Speaker 3: You'd have more credibility if I asked you who supplied
- 3:53Speaker 3: the $ 25 million, $ 26 million, and you could give me
- 3:55Speaker 3: a name. I'm not a genius. Right, but you're making
- 3:58Speaker 3: a statement. You want me to believe that somebody donated.
- 4:01Speaker 2: That amount of money.
- 4:01Speaker 6: Well, you can look it up.
- 4:02Speaker 8: All right.
- 4:02Speaker 6: I mean, you can look it up.
- 4:03Speaker 5: Oh, no, no.
- 4:04Speaker 2: You're making a statement. I don't believe that's accurate, but
- 4:07Speaker 2: we'll go..
- 4:07Speaker 6: That is accurate. That's an accurate statement.
- 4:10Speaker 3: All right.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Well, it's yet to be proven. Let's put it that way.
- 4:14Speaker 3: But needless to say, when it comes to the library,
- 4:17Speaker 3: here's the issue, which you don't understand. This is taxpayer money.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Contrary to what you say, we are paying a property
- 4:24Speaker 3: tax levy in addition to state money, which is going
- 4:27Speaker 3: to the library. I don't know where you think all
- 4:29Speaker 3: this private money is coming from. This is where the
- 4:32Speaker 3: money is coming from, from your tax dollars.
- 4:35Speaker 2: One of the big issues... No, it's not fine. One
- 4:38Speaker 2: of the big issues is..
- 4:39Speaker 3: Why isn't it?
- 4:39Speaker 6: Because you get a service from the library. You get books,
- 4:42Speaker 6: you get CDs, you get movies.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I'm not finished my thought yet because you won't let me. So,
- 4:48Speaker 3: I mean, you're not understanding what the point is. The
- 4:51Speaker 3: citizens of Poland are not being listened to. It's their community.
- 4:55Speaker 3: It's their library. They are the taxpayers here in Mahoning County.
- 4:59Speaker 3: They are paying the taxes for this on our property.
- 5:03Speaker 3: And through the state, they have this big reserve of
- 5:07Speaker 3: money that they have drawing interest on it. So they're
- 5:11Speaker 3: getting more money than they're actually needed at the library.
- 5:15Speaker 3: They should be answering to the citizens that are paying
- 5:17Speaker 3: the taxes. And they are not. I have never seen
- 5:21Speaker 3: an organization so arrogant. as I am this particular organization.
- 5:27Speaker 3: And make no mistake about it, I will not, I
- 5:30Speaker 3: haven't voted for a library levy because I know they
- 5:32Speaker 3: have more money than they know what to do with.
- 5:34Speaker 3: And you can take a look at it at the
- 5:36Speaker 3: personnel that they're hiring and how many they're hiring, the
- 5:38Speaker 3: lack of maintenance that they've done, and how they've treated
- 5:42Speaker 3: people in the community in which that branch is located.
- 5:44Speaker 6: Oh, they love the community, love the library. The community
- 5:48Speaker 6: loves the library. That building isn't safe. That's why they
- 5:52Speaker 6: can't fix it. It's not safe. The guy who was
- 5:56Speaker 6: on your show, he's not an engineer. He's an architect.
- 5:59Speaker 6: He doesn't know about structural engineering.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Are you an engineer?
- 6:06Speaker 6: Excuse me?
- 6:06Speaker 2: Are you an engineer? I know enough.
- 6:09Speaker 5: It's not safe.
- 6:10Speaker 2: No, I'm asking you. That's why they're not doing this.
- 6:12Speaker 2: I'm asking you.
- 6:12Speaker 6: They don't want to jeopardize people.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Just sit tight.
- 6:14Speaker 6: With this building.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Just sit tight. Tell me what the problem is with
- 6:17Speaker 2: the building.
- 6:20Speaker 6: It was built on bad. That's bad property there. That guy,
- 6:25Speaker 6: they should never have built that library in that spot.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Why do you say it was built on bad property?
- 6:31Speaker 6: Because the structure isn't good.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Okay, what is happening? Explain to me.
- 6:36Speaker 3: I want you to explain to me, since this architect
- 6:40Speaker 3: who designed it, and if you listen..
- 6:42Speaker 6: Well, but he's not an engineer. He's an architect.
- 6:44Speaker 2: You don't understand.
- 6:45Speaker 6: And this was 25 years ago he did this.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Okay, but do you understand?
- 6:50Speaker 6: This guy is fighting a battle from 25 years ago.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Do you understand that he wasn't the only one involved
- 6:56Speaker 3: in it? Did you listen to his statements that he made?
- 6:58Speaker 6: Well, he said other architects, he was saying. And this
- 7:00Speaker 6: is over 20 years ago. This isn't current day. Now,
- 7:04Speaker 6: has he looked at the building? Has he looked at
- 7:06Speaker 6: the structure of this guy?
- 7:07Speaker 3: Yes. Now, here's where you're inaccurate. Why? I said, does.
- 7:13Speaker 6: This guy know about the structure.
- 7:15Speaker 2: Of the building?
- 7:16Speaker 3: What is the building built on? What's the foundation of
- 7:19Speaker 3: the building? What rock is it built on?
- 7:22Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 7:24Speaker 2: You don't know.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Do you know that was there somebody also involved in
- 7:30Speaker 3: it from YSU that is involved in making sure that
- 7:35Speaker 3: the stone material was pure and met specifications?
- 7:40Speaker 2: Do you know that?
- 7:42Speaker 6: Well, it could be solid material, but.
- 7:44Speaker 3: If the property itself isn't good. No, if the building's
- 7:48Speaker 3: built on bedrock. The slag had to meet standards that
- 7:53Speaker 3: was under there. It is not slag from the steel mills.
- 7:56Speaker 6: So why are they doing away with this library?
- 8:01Speaker 2: It's foolish for them to do away with it altogether.
- 8:03Speaker 6: Why? Answer me this question. Do you know why they're
- 8:06Speaker 6: wanting to move this library?
- 8:09Speaker 2: It's beyond me why anyone would want to move this particular.
- 8:12Speaker 6: You can't answer me that question.
- 8:13Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to answer it. You're talking about
- 8:15Speaker 2: the library.
- 8:15Speaker 6: You can't answer me why they.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Want to move the library. Here's the first problem. You're
- 8:19Speaker 3: asking me a question. I'm trying to answer it. Do
- 8:20Speaker 3: you want me to answer it?
- 8:22Speaker 2: I'm going to answer.
- 8:23Speaker 6: You can answer me.
- 8:24Speaker 3: OK, the first question I'm saying to you is it
- 8:26Speaker 3: shouldn't be moved in the first place. That is my opinion.
- 8:29Speaker 3: That's the architect's opinion. And when you talk about an architect,
- 8:33Speaker 3: there were other people involved in building this facility. So
- 8:36Speaker 3: we know it's built on bedrock. So we know that
- 8:39Speaker 3: the gravel that was used was washed and met a
- 8:41Speaker 3: standard by the company that provided it. by them that
- 8:46Speaker 3: provided it. It was not from the steel mill. So
- 8:49Speaker 3: let's start with it. This building didn't have any issues
- 8:52Speaker 3: as far as the back section raising up a little
- 8:55Speaker 3: bit because of a wall that was built incorrectly back there,
- 9:00Speaker 3: which the architect had nothing to do with, which created
- 9:03Speaker 3: hydrostatic pressure under that portion, that very small portion of
- 9:07Speaker 3: that building in the back. Not the whole building, just
- 9:10Speaker 3: a very small portion in the back. Now, according to
- 9:15Speaker 3: the architect, there's two options that you can do. You
- 9:18Speaker 3: can modify that diversion wall and or you can take
- 9:22Speaker 3: it out and you can expand where the river does
- 9:26Speaker 3: the bend. But none of these problems existed for 20-something
- 9:30Speaker 3: years as far as the foundation or any movement in
- 9:35Speaker 3: that building at all till that wall was built. So
- 9:39Speaker 3: use your power of being cognizant. Would you think that
- 9:43Speaker 3: might be a cause and effect? Everything was fine until
- 9:46Speaker 3: that one wall that they put there was built. And
- 9:49Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, you have a problem in
- 9:51Speaker 3: the far back corner of the building where which has
- 9:53Speaker 3: shifted a little bit because of slag that apparently was
- 9:57Speaker 3: left there from the original structure. the original building that
- 10:01Speaker 3: was there, and the original parking lot that was there
- 10:05Speaker 3: when they thought they had it all out. But it's
- 10:06Speaker 3: not a reason to abandon the entire facility. Now, my
- 10:10Speaker 3: question to you, I'm not an architect.
- 10:13Speaker 4: He is.
- 10:14Speaker 3: He's certainly more educated at building than I am. I
- 10:18Speaker 3: have an understanding of it. But in addition to that,
- 10:22Speaker 3: he mentioned the other people, if you listen specifically, of
- 10:26Speaker 3: the specialty trades that were involved in this project and
- 10:30Speaker 3: in the foundation and how it was all approved by them.
- 10:33Speaker 3: One of the guys highly respected from YSU that looked
- 10:38Speaker 3: at all that. Should we disregard all of them? Should
- 10:41Speaker 3: we say, well, you're just an architect? Okay, but that's
- 10:44Speaker 3: certainly more credentialed than you or me. Should we say
- 10:48Speaker 3: that the guy that was the engineer from YSU that
- 10:51Speaker 3: specialized in the slag and making sure that this was
- 10:55Speaker 3: done properly, do you think he knows more than you
- 10:58Speaker 3: and I do? Because he mentioned all these people by name.
- 11:02Speaker 3: That's why I had him on. So how can you
- 11:05Speaker 3: sit there and act like he doesn't know what he knows,
- 11:08Speaker 3: but you seem to know more than he knows?
- 11:11Speaker 6: At least he answered my question, so I'll give you
- 11:14Speaker 6: credit for that.
- 11:16Speaker 3: I mean, the bottom line is this is taxpayer money.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Taxpayers have a right to say, and incidentally, there's many
- 11:25Speaker 3: other reasons if you would listen to the program on
- 11:26Speaker 3: why the building was located there and what it does
- 11:29Speaker 3: for the community and the walking distance from the elementary schools.
- 11:33Speaker 3: If you listen to his explanation of why it was
- 11:35Speaker 3: put there. and how much of the stuff was actually
- 11:39Speaker 3: donated to the facility, you'll sit back and say, okay,
- 11:45Speaker 3: I didn't know that. But if you would listen, and
- 11:48Speaker 3: you can go back and listen to it.
- 11:51Speaker 6: Okay, say you're right about this. Okay, whatever. But why
- 11:55Speaker 6: are you after the whole library? Because you never liked
- 11:58Speaker 6: the library. This is just a new battle you're picking.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Why am I after it? Well, I'm going to show you, Shani.
- 12:04Speaker 6: You never like the library.
- 12:05Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you exactly if you want me
- 12:08Speaker 3: to answer why am I after the library, as you say,
- 12:10Speaker 3: because I believe the library, for a number of reasons,
- 12:13Speaker 3: is collecting more tax dollars than it knows how to use.
- 12:16Speaker 3: It's overtaxing our citizens of this community. You can see
- 12:20Speaker 3: that in the reserves that they have. So they're taxing
- 12:23Speaker 3: you more money than they should be. Secondly, clearly the
- 12:28Speaker 3: lack of response and straightforwardness, to the community in this
- 12:33Speaker 3: particular situation from the head of the library is troubling
- 12:39Speaker 3: that the taxpayers are so being disrespected and treated poorly.
- 12:47Speaker 3: I have zero respect for a government that says, shut up,
- 12:53Speaker 3: pay your taxes, we're going to do what we want
- 12:54Speaker 3: to do, and you don't have a say-so. I don't
- 12:57Speaker 3: agree with that. I will never agree with that. and
- 13:01Speaker 3: you can hang up. That's what the issue is. I
- 13:08Speaker 3: will sit here and I will tell you that unlike
- 13:11Speaker 3: the first caller or others, I listened to the architect.
- 13:18Speaker 3: He's a lot more qualified than I am on it.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Way more qualified than I am. And if you would
- 13:27Speaker 3: have paid attention to what he was saying, You would
- 13:32Speaker 3: have heard him talk about everyone else that was involved
- 13:35Speaker 3: in building that facility. And it checks and balances that
- 13:40Speaker 3: happens in that facility. And then you should perhaps ask yourself, well,
- 13:44Speaker 3: why didn't these problems exist 10 years into it? Why
- 13:47Speaker 3: did these problems suddenly exist, what, 25 years into it?
- 13:53Speaker 3: When this wall was put up to divert Yellow Creek?
- 13:57Speaker 3: And prior to that, there wasn't an issue with the floor,
- 14:00Speaker 3: the hydrostatic pressure in the back small portion of that building.
- 14:03Speaker 3: The library isn't sinking. It's built on bedrock. The slag
- 14:07Speaker 3: was certified, I guess is a term you would use.
- 14:14Speaker 3: Reviewed by, his name escapes me, the guy from YSU.
- 14:18Speaker 2: It's highly respected.
- 14:19Speaker 3: I had another engineer that called me yesterday who said
- 14:21Speaker 3: he took his classes and the guy was brilliant. when
- 14:25Speaker 3: it comes to the ground structure, when it comes to
- 14:28Speaker 3: what the ground is made of. So maybe you should
- 14:31Speaker 3: start listening to them. Maybe you should say, well, this
- 14:37Speaker 3: architect knows what he's talking about. And when he talks
- 14:41Speaker 3: about the history of it, because he was there when
- 14:43Speaker 3: it was being built. None of these other people that
- 14:45Speaker 3: are at the library, the head of the library, Or frankly,
- 14:50Speaker 3: people making these decisions have a clue, really, of what
- 14:54Speaker 3: they're deciding and what they're doing. They don't have the
- 14:58Speaker 3: knowledge and they don't have the background. And they have
- 15:00Speaker 3: the arrogance not to listen to the people who do.
- 15:06Speaker 3: So if you've got this beautiful building, and it is beautiful,
- 15:14Speaker 3: which got great accolades... from architects and magazines when it
- 15:19Speaker 3: was done. It's been a solid building for 20 plus
- 15:24Speaker 3: years that clearly when you look at the pictures was
- 15:28Speaker 3: not maintained on the outside. Simple, basic maintenance that you
- 15:32Speaker 3: would do on your home. And you say to yourself,
- 15:35Speaker 3: why did that one back section raise? Well, what interesting
- 15:41Speaker 3: timing when that wall was put up that that happens.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Those are the facts. Ron Furb checking in with Bob Dieter. Dieter, he... WKBN.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Back to it. NewsRadio 570. WKBN and Ron Furb. 324
- 15:56Speaker 2: in the afternoon.
- 15:58Speaker 3: What was it, a week ago and then yesterday when
- 16:00Speaker 3: we had on Bob Mastroianno from the architect who built,
- 16:06Speaker 3: was the architect for the Poland Library when it was built?
- 16:09Speaker 3: He was there. He knows what went on. He knows
- 16:14Speaker 3: the history of it. He knows who was involved in it.
- 16:18Speaker 3: He knows when the back portion of the building started
- 16:22Speaker 3: to shift slightly and when it started to shift. So
- 16:27Speaker 3: it would seem he's the most knowledgeable person about it,
- 16:31Speaker 3: in addition to naming the people that were there to
- 16:33Speaker 3: assist him during that time as far as the bottom structure,
- 16:36Speaker 3: as far as the slag and where it came from
- 16:39Speaker 3: and the verification of being washed slag, not from the
- 16:42Speaker 3: steel mills. And the people that are arguing against him
- 16:47Speaker 3: were not there. So they want to, what, insult him? Well,
- 16:54Speaker 3: he's just an architect? Well, that's pretty impressive. But when
- 16:59Speaker 3: he sits down and he sits on a forum that
- 17:01Speaker 3: we have for two and a half to three hours
- 17:04Speaker 3: to say, and here's the guy, here's who brought the slag,
- 17:08Speaker 3: here's what the quality of it was, and here's the
- 17:12Speaker 3: guy from YSU that's talked about, was basically overseeing to
- 17:19Speaker 3: make sure that it was the right material. Do any
- 17:24Speaker 3: of these new hires, does the woman that came from
- 17:27Speaker 3: Phoenix know any of this stuff?
- 17:29Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't here.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Do any of these overpriced people, overpaid people, I should say,
- 17:37Speaker 3: that are now on the library payroll to insulate her
- 17:40Speaker 3: from lousy decisions.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Know any of this stuff?
- 17:50Speaker 3: So I'm here to say, as I'll say again, Bob Mastriani,
- 17:55Speaker 3: he is a good, decent man. He is a good man.
- 18:01Speaker 3: And he cares about Poland, he cares about that facility,
- 18:03Speaker 3: and he knows what he's talking about. And when he
- 18:11Speaker 3: was on the program, not a single person from the
- 18:16Speaker 3: library system called when he was on our airwaves for
- 18:20Speaker 3: three hours. So they want to challenge what he has
- 18:25Speaker 3: to say the next day in a paper, but that
- 18:29Speaker 3: doesn't cut it with me. When he's sitting here for
- 18:32Speaker 3: three hours on the program, where were they then? Where
- 18:36Speaker 3: were they yesterday? If they think they know more than
- 18:42Speaker 3: he does, if they think they have better insight than
- 18:47Speaker 3: he does, about building, about who was involved in it,
- 18:51Speaker 3: about how it was built, and when the problem emerged,
- 18:54Speaker 3: and the fact that it can be fixed. And if
- 19:01Speaker 3: you can save a beautiful facility like that, I mean,
- 19:04Speaker 3: what's the point of having any of these beautiful old buildings?
- 19:08Speaker 3: And I guess we should tear them all down. And
- 19:10Speaker 3: this building is, what, 25 years old? But it's spectacular.
- 19:16Speaker 3: So what should we do? Just say, well, to hell
- 19:18Speaker 3: with it. Let's dump it and sell it to somebody
- 19:23Speaker 3: and let's go build a new one that will cost
- 19:26Speaker 3: a lot more, won't be nearly as spectacular, won't have
- 19:29Speaker 3: the square footage. Even in speculation, when they said, what
- 19:36Speaker 3: would that building cost to build today? And he said,
- 19:37Speaker 3: probably $ 20 million. Isn't that worth preserving? Isn't that worth saving?
- 19:51Speaker 3: I mean, and this idea, well, if we build a
- 19:53Speaker 3: new library, guess what? Then we don't have all these
- 19:55Speaker 3: maintenance costs. Well, I guess that's true because everything's new.
- 20:01Speaker 3: But I'm here to say that if you take the
- 20:04Speaker 3: existing library and you put a new heating and cooling system,
- 20:07Speaker 3: you restart the clock on all of that. I'm not
- 20:11Speaker 3: saying mechanicals don't have a life expectancy, but if you
- 20:14Speaker 3: replace them with new stuff, then the clock starts all
- 20:17Speaker 3: over again, just as you would be buying new stuff
- 20:19Speaker 3: for a new facility. My problem with this entire library
- 20:23Speaker 3: operation is they are simply ignoring what the people who
- 20:28Speaker 3: live in that community want, overwhelmingly. And they're ignoring and
- 20:36Speaker 3: treating the taxpayers like crap. So when I say to you,
- 20:41Speaker 3: would I vote for a library levy?
- 20:42Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
- 20:44Speaker 3: They're getting more tax dollars in than they should be
- 20:46Speaker 3: getting in the first place. They have too many people
- 20:48Speaker 3: that are on the payroll now. And they're not receptive
- 20:54Speaker 3: to the taxpayers of the community. So it is my money.
- 20:59Speaker 3: And I have every right to vote against it and say,
- 21:01Speaker 3: I want to keep my money. I don't really approve
- 21:03Speaker 3: of the way you're running your operation. Last time I checked,
- 21:08Speaker 3: that's America.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Let's start here. So good morning and welcome.
- 21:11Speaker 6: We are now underway.
- 21:13Speaker 2: We're following the events of the day. What we're just
- 21:15Speaker 2: now hearing about.
- 21:16Speaker 9: This is new information.
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- 22:55Speaker 9: Yeah, I caught part of your show yesterday, and I
- 22:58Speaker 9: was wondering what structural engineer put the wall up and
- 23:02Speaker 9: who initiated that they even build that wall. I don't
- 23:05Speaker 9: know if they answered that, but everyone's talking about structural engineers,
- 23:09Speaker 9: and I was just curious, you know, who did that?
- 23:11Speaker 2: No, he did not. Bob did not have anything to
- 23:15Speaker 2: do with that.
- 23:16Speaker 9: I know, I know, and they should be looking into
- 23:18Speaker 9: who did, I think. Yeah, I think that the library lady,
- 23:22Speaker 9: I think she's just a globalist. I attended the town
- 23:25Speaker 9: hall meeting, I don't know if it was last summer,
- 23:27Speaker 9: about the cement versus the brick. They took all the
- 23:31Speaker 9: brick out. They didn't want brick. They wanted cement. They
- 23:33Speaker 9: wanted to color it. It was this long meeting.
- 23:35Speaker 5: She talked in circles.
- 23:38Speaker 9: Mr. Mastriana talked, and he gave her three good options
- 23:41Speaker 9: to incorporate the brick back into it. I don't think
- 23:44Speaker 9: she ever got back to him, but he was very
- 23:46Speaker 9: kind to her, and she's just one of those Klaus
- 23:49Speaker 9: Schwab sit-down-and-shut-up crowd people. You know what I mean? They
- 23:53Speaker 9: put the LEDs in the library that kind of give
- 23:55Speaker 9: you a headache, so they changed the lighting. They took
- 23:58Speaker 9: down all the bus because, of course, those are white men,
- 24:00Speaker 9: and you can't have them. We have to erase our history.
- 24:03Speaker 9: I think this is what it's about. You know, it's
- 24:06Speaker 9: a historical-looking building. It's attached to an actual building from, what,
- 24:10Speaker 9: 1840 or something, and they just want to get rid
- 24:12Speaker 9: of it. You know, they just want to erase our history.
- 24:15Speaker 9: So speaking of incompetent government, I go to the treasurer's
- 24:19Speaker 9: office page today to see when the taxes are due.
- 24:22Speaker 9: And what they have out there is the due date
- 24:24Speaker 9: for the first half tax, which was March 6th. So
- 24:27Speaker 9: I call them, and they tell me, well, it was
- 24:30Speaker 9: going to be March 7th, but now they don't know
- 24:32Speaker 9: when it's going to be because they don't have the
- 24:33Speaker 9: tax bills out yet. So, I mean, are you kidding me?
- 24:39Speaker 9: And then the same website tells you it is the
- 24:41Speaker 9: taxpayer's responsibility to secure a tax bill. Failure to receive
- 24:45Speaker 9: a tax bill will not void the 10% penalty for
- 24:47Speaker 9: late payment. So out of all of my eight counties,
- 24:51Speaker 9: Mahoning County is the one that doesn't yet have a
- 24:53Speaker 9: firm tax date. It's going to be sometime after August 7th,
- 24:56Speaker 9: I could tell everybody. Pretty much all the counties have
- 25:00Speaker 9: moved their dates out. Columbiana taxes aren't due until August 21st.
- 25:04Speaker 9: Trumbles aren't due until August 31st. So just to let
- 25:08Speaker 9: people know, Stark, they moved their date out. Those aren't
- 25:11Speaker 9: due until August 21st. So I don't know. I guess
- 25:14Speaker 9: they just get to move things around. But then when
- 25:16Speaker 9: they're due, you better pay them.
- 25:20Speaker 3: Listen, I think everybody's in for a rude awakening on
- 25:22Speaker 3: any number of things. Like I said, I feel sorry
- 25:24Speaker 3: for the citizens of Canfield because they're looking at a
- 25:28Speaker 3: 5.9 mil school levy that's going to be on the ballot.
- 25:33Speaker 3: They're also looking at a pretty significant but almost 3
- 25:37Speaker 3: mil MRDD levy. So if one or both of those pass,
- 25:43Speaker 3: in addition to the increase you're going to get from
- 25:45Speaker 3: the re-evaluations– It is going to be astronomical burden put
- 25:50Speaker 3: on citizens of Canfield to tolerate that burden. And I
- 25:57Speaker 3: say it again and again and again. This is ridiculous.
- 26:01Speaker 3: You are pricing people out of their homes, not just
- 26:03Speaker 3: senior citizens. You're making it difficult for young people to
- 26:06Speaker 3: buy homes because of the burden, the huge burden of
- 26:09Speaker 3: the property taxes monthly. You're making it difficult for senior citizens.
- 26:13Speaker 3: And quite frankly, you're also making it difficult for everybody
- 26:17Speaker 3: in between because the evaluations are– well, the initial evaluations
- 26:22Speaker 3: were double-digit increases, right? And I don't know anyone's income
- 26:26Speaker 3: that could keep up with that. Now, because of Dave Thomas,
- 26:29Speaker 3: the next, the increase from the reevaluations will be less
- 26:35Speaker 3: because it's tied to the rate of inflation, but it's
- 26:37Speaker 3: still going to be an increase that you didn't vote for.
- 26:39Speaker 3: And then they're slapping on two levies. So this idea
- 26:42Speaker 3: that you can't be priced out of your house is ridiculous.
- 26:46Speaker 3: That's exactly what's going on. And the communities have the
- 26:51Speaker 3: ability to, to decline the increase.
- 26:55Speaker 5: And they better.
- 26:56Speaker 9: They better vote all these levies down, every single one.
- 26:59Speaker 2: They have the.
- 26:59Speaker 3: Ability to decline the increase, and they should. But I
- 27:03Speaker 3: won't hold my breath for that to happen. What is
- 27:05Speaker 3: happening to our citizens and the burden of property taxes
- 27:09Speaker 3: is deeply disturbing and troubling. It's like when you go
- 27:12Speaker 3: back to the library. The library, as they say, why
- 27:15Speaker 3: do these people have $ 40, $ 50 million in a bank account?
- 27:20Speaker 3: That's your tax dollars. That's your money. That they're collecting
- 27:24Speaker 3: interest on. Well, then you're overtaxing the citizen.
- 27:28Speaker 9: In other words, stop taking it. You know, everybody thinks
- 27:32Speaker 9: they need this levy. Well, they already have a continuous.
- 27:34Speaker 9: Don't they already have like a forever levy for that already?
- 27:39Speaker 3: Listen, it's another high levy where they want an astronomical
- 27:43Speaker 3: amount of money.
- 27:43Speaker 5: And there's 2,000 families.
- 27:44Speaker 9: So where is all that going? I don't understand.
- 27:47Speaker 6: Right.
- 27:48Speaker 9: You really have to question these things and don't just
- 27:51Speaker 9: get pulled in, oh, it's for the children or it's
- 27:53Speaker 9: just for that. No, this is a cash grab. I'm sorry.
- 27:57Speaker 9: I think you better vote everything down. You better sign
- 28:00Speaker 9: the petition. You better go to our website. Circulate among
- 28:03Speaker 9: your friends and family, www.axohtax.com, because it's never going to end.
- 28:10Speaker 9: And the government, I mean, they just do what they want.
- 28:12Speaker 9: Like I said, you go to the treasurer's website, you
- 28:15Speaker 9: expect to see at least August 7th.
- 28:17Speaker 6: Okay?
- 28:18Speaker 9: We don't even see that. We see March 6th. We're
- 28:20Speaker 9: way past that. They can't even do that right.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you. You're on air.
- 28:25Speaker 3: Hey, Ron.
- 28:28Speaker 8: That was a very good show you had yesterday. And
- 28:32Speaker 8: I am an engineer, by the way. And the gentleman
- 28:36Speaker 8: made total sense. So you're standing for the right. Just
- 28:40Speaker 8: let you know.
- 28:40Speaker 4: Okay?
- 28:40Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I can tell you this, and I'll say
- 28:43Speaker 3: it time and time again. That man sitting here is
- 28:46Speaker 3: a good, decent human being. He's a good man. And
- 28:51Speaker 3: any of those people that are attacking that man, it's
- 28:55Speaker 3: despicable to do such a thing when you meet somebody
- 28:59Speaker 3: like that and you can hear him on a forum explain–
- 29:03Speaker 3: He was there when it was being built. He had
- 29:05Speaker 3: all these other experts that were there. He knows the
- 29:07Speaker 3: history of it. He knows when the problem started and
- 29:10Speaker 3: it wasn't an ongoing problem. And he knows that this
- 29:13Speaker 3: facility can be saved. You've got a bunch of people
- 29:16Speaker 3: who have none of those credentials that have an agenda.
- 29:20Speaker 5: Have an opinion.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:23Speaker 6: Right.
- 29:23Speaker 8: And opinions are just like what? Noses. Everybody got one.
- 29:27Speaker 8: So the facts, you know. The facts are that you're
- 29:30Speaker 8: standing by them and, you know, so don't get shaken.
- 29:34Speaker 3: Listen, I stand by them 100%. It's a beautiful facility
- 29:39Speaker 3: in that community. and the community i think overwhelmingly wants
- 29:42Speaker 3: that facility and it's very savable um right and i
- 29:47Speaker 3: think and i and i think if that is if
- 29:49Speaker 3: that happens i think that community will be grateful for
- 29:52Speaker 3: many decades to come uh Because it's a crown jewel
- 29:57Speaker 3: of that community. It's really a great crown jewel of it.
- 30:01Speaker 5: Right.
- 30:03Speaker 4: Okay.
- 30:03Speaker 8: Well, I just wanted to share that. Don't worry about Iran.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I'll get into that later. I'll get into that later. Thanks.
- 30:12Speaker 2: I mean, that's coming.
- 30:14Speaker 3: I want to get into that. But government should be
- 30:18Speaker 3: responsive to people. This entire library operation says, give us
- 30:22Speaker 3: your tax dollars, sit down and shut up. And I'll
- 30:29Speaker 3: be more than happy to have the head of the
- 30:32Speaker 3: library on with Bob at the same time sitting right
- 30:34Speaker 3: on the program. I make a public invitation to her.
- 30:42Speaker 3: She can come on down. She can bring her staff
- 30:47Speaker 3: members down with her and she can come on down
- 30:50Speaker 3: and he'll sit here. And then they can have a
- 30:53Speaker 3: discussion that the public can hear and on the decisions,
- 30:57Speaker 3: how it was built, the decisions that were made, and
- 31:02Speaker 3: for them to justify their decisions in a civil fashion.
- 31:14Speaker 3: So if they're interested in that, they know how to
- 31:16Speaker 3: get a hold of me. All they have to do
- 31:17Speaker 3: is email me. I know Bob would be more than
- 31:21Speaker 3: happy to come and spend another two or three hours
- 31:24Speaker 3: with me. And I invite them to come on. If
- 31:31Speaker 3: they think they have such a righteous, strong case, then
- 31:34Speaker 3: you come on and talk to the public here and
- 31:37Speaker 3: talk to Bob here and make your case.
- 31:45Speaker 2: If you care.
- 31:47Speaker 3: If you respect the public and the taxpayer, then you'll
- 31:50Speaker 3: take me up on that offer. And if you don't.
- 31:56Speaker 3: That says everything. We, the taxpayers, need to know. It
- 32:05Speaker 3: is your money that is taken from you. Never forget,
- 32:09Speaker 3: it starts, it is your money. It's the fruits of
- 32:13Speaker 3: your labor. How much of your money is taken from you?
- 32:18Speaker 3: Far too much anymore. It's becoming more and more difficult
- 32:22Speaker 3: for people just to survive. But certainly the government entities
- 32:32Speaker 3: should be responsive to the citizens who are paying the money.
- 32:39Speaker 3: But it seems they come in last too many times.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Give us your money. You get the crumbs. Sit down
- 32:46Speaker 3: and shut up. And that's not how this is supposed
- 32:48Speaker 3: to work.
- 32:49Speaker 2: You're on the air.
- 32:51Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, good afternoon, buddy.
- 32:53Speaker 6: Yes.
- 32:55Speaker 5: I caught the end of your show yesterday with the architect.
- 32:59Speaker 5: And for your first caller saying he's an architect, not
- 33:01Speaker 5: an engineer, as far as engineering is concerned, the architect
- 33:04Speaker 5: is the pinnacle of engineering. They have a whole team
- 33:08Speaker 5: about permits, professional engineers, and everything before the prints are
- 33:13Speaker 5: stamped and even released to build a building. Okay, so
- 33:18Speaker 5: that's his ignorance. But I wanted to ask the gentleman, Bob,
- 33:22Speaker 5: that you had on yesterday, who the hydrologist was, and
- 33:27Speaker 5: who's the professional engineer that stamped it for that wall.
- 33:32Speaker 3: He had nothing to do with that wall. Bob had
- 33:35Speaker 3: nothing to do with that wall.
- 33:37Speaker 5: I know he didn't, but the people that had it done,
- 33:41Speaker 5: who was the qualified professional engineer that stamped it, and
- 33:45Speaker 5: did they have a hydrologist? Because I can walk out
- 33:49Speaker 5: of my property being on Yellow Creek in 100 yards.
- 33:53Speaker 6: Okay, so..
- 33:55Speaker 5: Did they do this whole survey all the way to
- 33:57Speaker 5: the source, plus the drainage, plus the extra water, plus
- 34:00Speaker 5: all the other problems, all right, and do that before
- 34:04Speaker 5: they built that wall? Who approved that, and who stamped
- 34:07Speaker 5: those prints to do that? I worked construction for 35 years,
- 34:11Speaker 5: heavy construction. What they have to know, what an architect
- 34:15Speaker 5: and his team with the structural engineers, the piping guys,
- 34:18Speaker 5: the compaction into the ground, the piling that goes in
- 34:22Speaker 5: and everything, Those guys have to do all that and
- 34:25Speaker 5: have that approved the building code before that building even starts.
- 34:30Speaker 5: So all these people mopping off about it, since I
- 34:34Speaker 5: live within walking distance of the place, what's epitome to
- 34:37Speaker 5: me is exactly what you said.
- 34:40Speaker 6: Eat it.
- 34:42Speaker 5: And I'm going, they got millions and millions of dollars
- 34:44Speaker 5: in the bank due to fricking maintenance.
- 34:46Speaker 6: Right.
- 34:47Speaker 5: You got people going, donate to fix and save our library.
- 34:50Speaker 5: And you got 40, 50 million in the bank. What
- 34:54Speaker 5: if you didn't take your money and save it aside
- 34:57Speaker 5: for emergencies on your house and your property? Who's responsible
- 35:00Speaker 5: for that?
- 35:01Speaker 3: If you take a look at the pictures that I've seen,
- 35:03Speaker 3: it's obvious that routine maintenance hasn't been done because what
- 35:07Speaker 3: you see is some of the woodwork on the outside
- 35:09Speaker 3: deteriorating because it wasn't maintained. It wouldn't be any different
- 35:13Speaker 3: than if you did the same thing at your house
- 35:15Speaker 3: after 20-something years. So the reality is anything outside..
- 35:19Speaker 2: Needs maintenance.
- 35:21Speaker 3: And don't tell me how great a job you've done
- 35:23Speaker 3: at maintenance when my eyes, you know, don't believe your eyes,
- 35:26Speaker 3: believe what we're telling you. No, I'll believe my eyes
- 35:28Speaker 3: on what I'm seeing and how you didn't do a
- 35:30Speaker 3: good job on the maintenance, which doesn't surprise me at
- 35:33Speaker 3: all when it comes to government in general. But the
- 35:38Speaker 3: maintenance should have been done and the repairs should have
- 35:40Speaker 3: been made. Now, these are minor repairs, if you will,
- 35:44Speaker 3: on the outside as far as the wood and painting
- 35:46Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff. But that's the maintenance that
- 35:49Speaker 3: needs to be done on the outside. You know, this
- 35:51Speaker 3: idea that if you build a new building, well, now
- 35:53Speaker 3: you don't have all the maintenance costs. That's because it's
- 35:56Speaker 3: a brand new building that you just spent $ 9 million on.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Well, guess what?
- 36:01Speaker 3: If you put $ 7 million and do the maintenance on
- 36:03Speaker 3: this building, you're not going to have to worry about
- 36:05Speaker 3: much there either. I mean, based on their attitude, my house,
- 36:12Speaker 3: which was built in 1996, instead of me replacing the
- 36:16Speaker 3: furnace or doing routine maintenance on it, I should just
- 36:20Speaker 3: rip it down and build a new one.
- 36:23Speaker 2: That's their thinking. Now, how does that make a lick
- 36:25Speaker 2: of sense anywhere?
- 36:27Speaker 3: Because that's basically what they're saying.
- 36:29Speaker 2: Oh, it's just much more— it' s.
- 36:30Speaker 3: Better and economically better to go build a new building
- 36:33Speaker 3: than put any money into the existing one.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Really? I mean, it makes absolutely no sense at all.
- 36:41Speaker 5: Ron, you're preaching to the choir here, buddy. It's like this. Okay,
- 36:46Speaker 5: I live here. Okay, you're a radio station. You're only— Heck,
- 36:49Speaker 5: you could drive there in five minutes. You know that.
- 36:51Speaker 5: So anyhow, I live here. But here's the thing. You
- 36:53Speaker 5: go through the neighborhoods around here, and I'm in the
- 36:56Speaker 5: township right outside of the village. And you go around here.
- 37:00Speaker 5: There's signs. There was signs. Save a debt. Donate to
- 37:03Speaker 5: the library. So why are you sitting on $ 40 or
- 37:05Speaker 5: $ 50 million coming after for donations to pay for something
- 37:09Speaker 5: that's your fault?
- 37:12Speaker 3: I don't know enough about that to even speak about it.
- 37:15Speaker 3: But the reality is any building needs maintenance on the outside,
- 37:19Speaker 3: and it should be done on a regular basis. Instead
- 37:21Speaker 3: of hiring so many people that push paper and really
- 37:25Speaker 3: don't do anything, maybe you need to hire more craftsmen
- 37:29Speaker 3: to do the maintenance on these facilities as opposed to
- 37:33Speaker 3: all these people that are trying to insulate the head
- 37:37Speaker 3: honcho of the library from the public.
- 37:39Speaker 4: Right.
- 37:40Speaker 5: Well, my question to the art detective, if you get along,
- 37:43Speaker 5: even if you remember, I'm an old retired pipe fitter,
- 37:46Speaker 5: and I'm going to tell you right now, I know
- 37:48Speaker 5: before that building was done, and I've been on a
- 37:50Speaker 5: lot of big, huge construction sites, that professional engineers have
- 37:54Speaker 5: to stamp that and approve that stuff. Well, he talked.
- 37:58Speaker 2: Yesterday about that. I would like to know.
- 38:00Speaker 5: If they got a hydrologist and a professional engineer to
- 38:03Speaker 5: do what they did to cause that. The last time
- 38:05Speaker 5: I was in that building was this past winter. And
- 38:08Speaker 5: they had parts of it blocked off saying it was dangerous.
- 38:11Speaker 5: And I'm going, I'm trying to look for it. I'm
- 38:13Speaker 5: looking at the ground. I'm looking for crap.
- 38:15Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
- 38:16Speaker 5: I'm looking for all kinds of stuff.
- 38:17Speaker 2: Right. It's ridiculous.
- 38:19Speaker 3: As he said, it's in the far back in a
- 38:22Speaker 3: storage room where he says it looks like it's about
- 38:25Speaker 3: a moved about an inch to maybe two inches from
- 38:28Speaker 3: a hydraulic pressure from the water underneath.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Easy, easy, easy problem to fix.
- 38:36Speaker 5: And the problem lies on Yellow Creek itself because they
- 38:39Speaker 5: don't do the maintenance, the dredging, or clear all the
- 38:41Speaker 5: trees and snags out of it. And the erosion back
- 38:44Speaker 5: in the park is even worse. And the Donfeld trees
- 38:47Speaker 5: that clog the creek, and it gets backwater buildup and
- 38:50Speaker 5: everything else like that because I see it.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I live there.
- 38:54Speaker 3: But living there then, you know what a jewel this
- 38:57Speaker 3: facility is. He built a beautiful thing.
- 38:59Speaker 5: It's absolutely a jewel. But you know what? They want
- 39:03Speaker 5: to sit on their money and not give it and
- 39:05Speaker 5: have somebody else pay for it.
- 39:06Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. I appreciate it. Thank you.
- 39:09Speaker 2: News Radio 570, Dodie Kimmy, and you're on the air.
- 39:12Speaker 4: Mr. Burb, how are you, sir? Long time, no talk.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Well, it's good to hear your voice. I thought you
- 39:17Speaker 2: were dead. I hadn't heard from you for so long.
- 39:19Speaker 4: Well, that rumor's been flying around. I took the 85 mark,
- 39:26Speaker 4: but I'm still kicking and still doing exactly what I
- 39:28Speaker 4: did 20 years ago. So the good Lord has blessed
- 39:31Speaker 4: me in that regard. I'd like to ask the people
- 39:36Speaker 4: in Poland... who seemed to have a problem with fixing
- 39:41Speaker 4: that library. The last time they were in.
- 39:44Speaker 3: Europe, went to the... Stand by, stand by. Stand by, Bob,
- 39:48Speaker 3: stand by. I'm going to come back to you in
- 39:50Speaker 3: a minute, right after these messages.
- 39:53Speaker 2: I Heart Radio.
- 39:56Speaker 1: News, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN. All right, Bob,
- 40:02Speaker 1: I thought you were making a great point. You were
- 40:03Speaker 1: talking about some historic buildings.
- 40:05Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 40:08Speaker 5: Well, right.
- 40:09Speaker 4: I mean, these very people that are trying to protect
- 40:12Speaker 4: their checkbooks to save their money so that they can
- 40:15Speaker 4: go to Rome or Paris or Berlin or you name
- 40:21Speaker 4: any capital in Europe and they'll be there and you'd
- 40:23Speaker 4: ask them, oh, were you at Matt Ludwig's castle down
- 40:26Speaker 4: in Bavaria? Oh, yes, we were at his castle and
- 40:29Speaker 4: his father's castle. And oh, yes, but they won't spend
- 40:33Speaker 4: a few bucks to keep probably... one of the most
- 40:37Speaker 4: beautiful buildings we have in this area in a small community.
- 40:41Speaker 4: That library is absolutely gorgeous. And if they don't like it,
- 40:47Speaker 4: move it to Hubbard. We'll take it. The bottom line
- 40:50Speaker 4: is that communities, those edifices that they build in those
- 40:56Speaker 4: communities reflect the community's education, Their.
- 41:00Speaker 6: Their their background, their.
- 41:04Speaker 4: Love of history. That's what they do.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Maybe we ought to.
- 41:08Speaker 4: Go to Washington or Virginia, I should say, and tear
- 41:11Speaker 4: down Washington's house.
- 41:12Speaker 5: And what the hell?
- 41:13Speaker 4: It's a lot older than that library. And if you're
- 41:16Speaker 4: how much money do they have in the bank? Give
- 41:18Speaker 4: me that number again, please.
- 41:20Speaker 3: Zamory and Bob were saying they thought it's around 40
- 41:24Speaker 3: something million, close to 50 million.
- 41:27Speaker 4: Well, hell, they could write a check on the interest
- 41:30Speaker 4: and they wouldn't notice it. I mean, there's something else
- 41:34Speaker 4: going on here. And every time I hear this, the
- 41:37Speaker 4: policeman in me says, yeah, somebody's got something going here
- 41:42Speaker 4: where somebody else is going to be making a fast buck.
- 41:45Speaker 4: And because when you have that kind of money and
- 41:48Speaker 4: you have a building as beautiful as that library is
- 41:51Speaker 4: in Poland, shame on those people for even considering tearing
- 41:56Speaker 4: it down. Okay, the building has a small problem. Fix it.
- 42:01Speaker 4: Fix it. You want to tear down the Sistine Chapel
- 42:04Speaker 4: because a brick fell off the wall? What kind of
- 42:08Speaker 4: logic are these people displaying to the average person in
- 42:14Speaker 4: their community? If I lived in Poland, I'd be screaming
- 42:17Speaker 4: at every meeting. I don't understand the logic of these people.
- 42:22Speaker 4: And again, I would like to be at a meeting
- 42:25Speaker 4: where somebody stands up and starts screaming and yelling and
- 42:27Speaker 4: carrying on about this. And I'd raise my hand and.
- 42:29Speaker 6: Say, I'd like to ask you a question.
- 42:31Speaker 4: When was the last time you were in Europe? And
- 42:34Speaker 4: they'd probably look at me like a chicken watching a
- 42:37Speaker 4: card trick. The bottom line is that we are dealing
- 42:42Speaker 4: with people that have some other interest. You understand what
- 42:46Speaker 4: I'm saying?
- 42:47Speaker 6: Yes, I do.
- 42:47Speaker 4: There's nothing else going on here, Ron, besides the few
- 42:50Speaker 4: dollars they have to spend to fix this building.
- 42:53Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob.
- 42:53Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 42:54Speaker 2: Thank you.