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Know the Enemy: Liberty · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  On Sunday night. And act of Senseless violence.
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  Took the lives of UVA football. Players.
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  Labelled Davis jr. Devin Chandler and Deshawn
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  Perry. Not only were these young men
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  exceptional on the football field but by all accounts were
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  just great young men to know or be around I can do Lance's go
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  out to the families of these young men.
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  The UVA football team, the UVA in Charlottesville community.
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  We continue to pray for the healing of the other two,
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  individuals injured in this senseless tragedy today.
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  This podcast, we are Hokies for whose
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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  Along with a known face to this podcast coach, Robbie Compton.
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  So the next time, you're in Blacksburg head down to 301,
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  South Main Street, tell them Curtis frying and Robbie sent
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  you. Bobby.
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  How you doing tonight, man? I won't know why I'm doing well,
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  doing well hanging out in my, in my high school team opposite.
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  Talk a little bit hokey Pokéballs.
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  Yes, we are mad now, Robbie show you shirt, they're just so
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  everybody can see who you do coach.
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  So, here's what I'm going to say and why we love having Robbie on
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  the North will football team. In 2020.
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  Under coach with techy. Who's one of your best friends
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  in the football world? He came in struggling program.
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  They won one game. You joined him last year?
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  And y'all want three games? Yeah that's 30 percent
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  Improvement. Robbie.
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  Why don't you tell them what y'all did this year man?
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  We made a pretty good turnaround this year.
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  We had 73 overall, during the season, only lost one game at
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  home loss to the arguably, best kick to 8:18 and he's Siri,
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  you'll know them, there's a couple of young men in
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  Blacksburg right now from East 3rd.
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  The gosh male voice and really good program, but we went into
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  our first playoff game here. A week before last their first
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  playoff game since 2013, I think it was.
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  Wow, I did not know that you have been that down.
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  Wow, I've been told seven and three regular season was
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  possibly one of their best records.
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  One of the top 5 best records in school district.
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  Well dude, making some improvements building some
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  building, some guys, and hoping to build something good.
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  Well, first of all, it's awesome, it's in the turnaround.
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  Y'all made there so quick. I know y'all, we mentioned that
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  there was a kid across town there.
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  That's currently committed to State and was heavy on the heavy
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  on the heavy on the Hokies radar.
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  So on but also I'm that you all turned around in in case
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  anybody's wondering where Brian is Brian's currently riding
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  Space Mountain around Disneyland and Disney World right now.
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  He goes to Disney World, he'll get the front of the line stuff,
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  but I'm sure he's having a blast.
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  I know he mentioned a grilled cheese.
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  Exactly. I mean, probably just spending
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  some time in Germany and Epcot just drinking all day, whatever.
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  But be honest, truth is the reason.
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  This was a day that the Court stays open, late bronze.
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  Obviously down there with his family, and Brian hit up, Robbie
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  last week and said, hey, Robbie season's over for you to do you
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  want to keep looking at some tape and Robbie, Lee has
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  graciously, Looked at a lot of tape between the do gaming.
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  You've been up with two weeks before watch cake?
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  I needed something to do. You need is some, you didn't
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  like a fix. I need to fix him.
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  Shaking him shaken. He between the Duke game and
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  the, and then scouting on Liberty.
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  So, Rodney's got a ton of us. So, Robbie, you know, you looked
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  at the film of this game, particularly, and I want you to
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  coach, to give me what you're feeling, what can be done
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  differently, what's on the right?
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  Because we're going to look at this a little different, you
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  know. Usually, it's me and Brian in
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  here. Here's a big play.
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  There's a big play. But having someone like yourself
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  on here, it's a different set of eyes.
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  It's where we can ask you different questions.
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  You've been with us before. It's always been great.
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  We've, if y'all want to know how long me Robbie and Brian have
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  known each other Middle School, Middle school.
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  So Napoli with each other and against each other.
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  Since we were young pop against each other but we've roughly
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  known each other 25 plus years. So it's easy to have them on
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  here. No.
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  Robbie I know you said before you started today you you did
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  want to give a disclaimer so nobody screaming and manage you.
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  Well, I mean, as a coach I look at things a little differently
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  than some people do You know, you deal with players and other
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  coaches and things every day, and there's some critique,
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  there's some ways you go about business and people just
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  understand that the more I'm going to be going tough in some
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  areas on coaches and players as well.
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  But it's all in, it's all in improving things and it's just,
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  it's the way I go about things. The way I see things.
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  I got it, I got it. Make sure I continue to write
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  relationships to four kids of our future and everyone I've
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  ever known. But Robbie, Robbie is basically
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  saying Rob. He's basically saying if, if
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  coaches watches thing, I gotta make sure we're doing everything
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  right here. Coach Holton, backyard.
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  So I can't be, I can't be messing around too much.
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  There you go. There you go.
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  Alright, so Brian. You see me Robbie and we'll see
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  how many times I'm going to do that.
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  Tonight will Well, I am watching a matching bag company for a
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  month worse as you have and maybe buy me a couple of times.
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  We got Maxine going on back here, Toledo versus other heck
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  of a catch by the kid Toledo versus Bowling Green.
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  It's like 28 is snowy at the glass bowl.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  But let's flip it to this. Let's recap 24/7 lost by the
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  Hokies, and we're going to start on offense Robbie.
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  And, you know, let's take a look at You know, let's take a look
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  at Grant Wells and, you know, you know, the background on
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  Wells, he played at Marshall for two years, but the Duke game,
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  you know, it was kind of more of the same in basically, as we
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  look at it here, let me get the stat lines up because for some
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  reason I did not have those pulled up.
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  This is what happens when you have to do this part of the
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  show. You forget crap, but but Wells
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  was 16 to 28, he only threw for 77 yards, one touchdown one pic
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  and the ball eight times for 11 yards, did have a long and 15.
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  So obviously he got hit numerous times in the backfield.
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  Yeah. And and Robbie at me and you
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  were talking earlier this week and you know, for the year he's
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  under 60% Completion. He's at like, 58.
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  What did you notice in this game?
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  And maybe some of the other game, I know you've kind of
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  caught some games off and on, you know what have you noticed
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  in this game that he does to maybe help that are Islington
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  towards being under that 60% in? Is there anything you think
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  they're trying or potentially he could do different Honestly
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  watching a lot of film and I watch several games, you know,
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  just TV wise. And I made sure, I checked out a
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  good number game, especially the ones where it look like a
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  struggle. A little more offensive ly,
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  understand Scout stuff. In when you see pretty
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  consistent in staying right around that 58 to 60 percent
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  completion. He the biggest thing I see in it
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  is a lot of times he's throwing in the rain because he's not
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  getting a lot of really good protection and he's having to
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  move around. I don't know if it's a if it's
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  all protection wise if they build in a lot of the rollouts
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  and Sprint out to things like that but there's a couple times
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  I know gets Duke, they get some pressure and he tries to step.
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  Away from depression and he gets forced away from where his
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  receivers are working and he ends up having there's at least
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  twice, he had to throw the ball away against do.
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  And as we know, throwing it away, that's cool.
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  Bring down that completion, percentage always will.
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  But when you say step away, but is that a football IQ thing?
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  Because if you're, if, you know, if you're on left hashing,
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  everything's going back towards the right, hash and that side of
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  the field, nothing. I know the inclinations get away
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  from pressure, but isn't that the wrong way to go?
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  Shouldn't you be stepping up or stepping towards?
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  Where your guys are? You would think so?
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  Yes, sometimes Park is dictating and try to roll a certain way
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  and then there's even more pressure in that place, you know
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  he is he is a quarterback, do we know will take off and gain what
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  he can when he came. And so sometimes going I feel
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  like going away from it. He's just like, okay well I can
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  pick up what I can because That's not bad.
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  He does have some instances where he makes pretty good
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  decisions. Pretty good throws and I don't
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  feel like this receiver is helping, sometimes it's fate.
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  Okay? Foxy is sometimes, especially
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  when he's trying to make check Downs quickly.
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  And it's almost like they're unexpected.
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  Sometime, got you got you? And we're going to and we'll get
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  into that out and we'll get into that a lot because we're going
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  to, we're going to look at the pass game and, you know, wide
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  receivers in the sky. All positions.
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  But is there anything you'd ask him to do different?
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  Like, you know, he's working with Brad Glenn which I think,
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  you know, Brad, right. Because when you were at
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  Greenville, he was at Western Carolina.
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  Aram. I may have met him once or twice
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  okay maybe I'm confusing you with somebody else.
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  Have a conversation with but is there are some exactly?
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  But is there any defensive coordinator at the high school
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  level? But is there anything that you
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  would be like you're you feel that some offensive quarterback
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  coaches would be saying to him about some of those things where
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  he is, you know, rolling away with some experience coaching
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  offensive line. I played offensive line is
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  sometimes I would look at stress the pocket, You know, I know the
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  protection is not great, but sometimes just a little bit
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  longer, instead of immediately rolling out moving unless that
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  is their scheme and they're trying to rolling up, you know,
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  Step Up make, you know, make Little Steps, move your feet
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  enough and stay focused on what you need to downfield and not
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  fake them as much about the pressure.
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  I know it's tough because he probably started getting hit a
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  lot of ways but he runs. I mean, He's not he's not a guy
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  that seems to just they're all out of bounds or you know that
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  which leads to another one sometimes.
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  Sometimes you don't have to take it every point you know that
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  that's the half yard may not be worth the huge shots.
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  You don't take it kinds but you know what I mean?
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  I think those things make a lot of difference in.
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  I know we talked about it is in the sections and things like
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  that. Yeah, where was it?
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  30 and 32 games, he's played down 30 and 32 games in eight
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  this season. Do you want to go?
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  That is But a lot of what I've seen in interceptions he's
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  thrown. It's, you know, there's been a
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  couple balls and hit receivers and bounced out and somebody
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  else catches, there's a lot of errant throws on the road.
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  Things like that. And I think a lot of that can be
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  fixed if he would just settle a little more in the pocket.
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  Now, by no means am I quarterbacks coach?
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  And they made they may have that set up a certain way, but those
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  are the little things that I would be telling my defensive
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  players, if we can get him, moving the ball is not going to
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  be thrown quite as accuracy. They got chance, putting it
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  bounces off hands without a shot.
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  Take it. So let me ask this next then you
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  talk. We just talked about the
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  interceptions. He's now started three seasons.
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  He started over 30 games, and I know we've mentioned it, some
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  are off the hands, some are airing on the runs.
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  But how much of his do you think it's mental now?
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  And how much is mental? What do you think has been said
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  to him about those throws? Because obviously 8 this year,
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  obviously significantly better after game.
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  One through twenty through quite a few.
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  Go to you, but will become free. And that game, right?
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  I thought it was more, but but but let's let me look that up,
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  let me but after that. But what do you think, mentally
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  when you when it's somebody that it's like you said want to gain
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  how do you how do you coach to that?
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  How do you make that regress to where it's not there anymore?
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  While we look at that like you look at that and you think,
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  okay, 30 and 32 games that looks like a game How many of you go
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  back? How many of those games has?
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  He had three or so in the game that'll cut that number of way
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  back. You take that one game away from
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  government school, like he allows it to bothering but so
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  much which is a good thing. As long as he's paying attention
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  to what's happening and learning why that happened?
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  I've dealt with coached a lot of a lot of players I've seen some
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  quarterbacks that have that short memory and it's Wonderful
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  Faith, but I've had some quarterbacks who had a short
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  memory and didn't think about why that happened and allowed it
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  to happen again. So that's a big thing that I
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  think you'd look at. I didn't spend too much time
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  looking at that, but that would be a thing.
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  I would tell him to focus on is looking at why these why they're
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  happening, not necessarily criticizing that they are.
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  But in a game like ODU, we're, we're pretty sure he had
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  multiple intersections. You know what?
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  What was something that was going on there?
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  It was he moving us over the Lions, their long hair passes,
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  that way. Well, there were couple
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  progression from those well I remember that game there were a
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  that game. It was like to on him.
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  One on somebody else and one was a Hail Mary at the end of the
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  half that don't I don't count that.
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  We're all aware of that. So he had for that game and he's
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  had this he's got nine this year total not a he's nine touchdowns
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  nine interceptions. Now he can't even look in ten
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  games and with a team that has a razor in with the team that has
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  a razor thin margin. Like Virginia Tech this year
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  that I can turn over a game does not help either.
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  Want a game. And he's also, you know, we look
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  at the Georgia Tech game. He had to he had three total
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  turnovers to or fumbles. And three of those were in Prime
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  field position where it was time to score.
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  And one was, at the end of the game, when Tucker Holloway had
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  set the team up, almost near Midfield, where you think it's
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  25 yards and 35 seconds? You can get it feel a little
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  Ranger in this game. Yep.
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  All right, so give me this is your Honest assessment.
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  In your opinion, are the Hokies bringing in another quarterback
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  through the portal. Next year, I would I would think
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  they need to be looking for something.
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  Look, look for an upgrade. I'm not saying that you have to
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  okay but you look for it if there if there's an obvious
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  upgrade their then you have to consider it Wells has another
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  year left, correct? Is it just one year left?
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  You got two years left to your right?
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  That he's got two years left. Yeah, he continues to show some
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  improvement. See what another spring does.
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  See how we really go. It's the brown kids done after
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  this gear, right? Brown is done after this year,
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  correct Brunson. After this, you see how he
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  continues to progress, maybe bringing somebody into gives
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  them a little more competition, will force them to improve a
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  little bit more. He may improve more with with
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  Little bit better protection in front of that.
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  That's a big thing. He may have brewed with a solid
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  Run game. One thing, I really noticed in
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  that Duke game the other day, the first their first
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  possession, their first place from school.
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  They score, they run a play action and throw it down inside
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  and noren coverage. And I mean, beat a man
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  one-on-one coverage. Because everybody was so focused
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  on that play action right from the beginning, the thought of
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  that run game and getting it started froze them up long
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  enough. To get enough separation.
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  When you find out later that there's not a really big
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  presence in their own game, then you can focus on what they're
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  going to try to take away and that's putting pressure on him
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  and making him throw it when he's not ready to put out.
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  And I mean, I think there's several aspects that can be
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  improved that they Grant Wheels may be fine in that position.
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  But if there's an obvious way to upgrade then I don't see why you
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  wouldn't get it. Nice.
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  Just going to say Lavar, we appreciate you watching tonight.
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  Good evening to you, sir. All right, let's go next.
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  Let's look at the wide receivers and tight end and some of the
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  pass game Concepts. Now, a lot of people are
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  complaining about Tyler bones, lack of creativity.
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  Now, hold on, I know what you're going to say, but let's just
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  we'll get to that. Next, let me pivot it here but
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  just from what you see, as far as the passing Concepts go, is
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  he being creative with some of the The play designs out there.
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  I can see and I see things that and I don't want anybody take
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  this the wrong way. I see things that normal people
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  watch the football, don't see 1000%, I wouldn't see it.
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  That's why I talk to you about all the time.
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  You can see certain ways they run for certain things that are
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  ruined when they make a run play, things like that.
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  So it's surveyor. But are you getting enough in
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  other situations that you want them to go after that?
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  Okay. Are you getting enough in the
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  Run game to Warrant the pressure to come to it?
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  So you can pull and throw the RPO and make it a packet okay?
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  Okay I think your creativity is there okay but I don't think
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  they can get to it yet. They're standing at the door
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  trying to get in but the key won't go into lock on.
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  No way. So so when you looked at the
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  concepts and stuff, you say, well that's a creative play.
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  That's your creative play. And I think it's going to go to
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  what I'm going to ask next is probably why we don't see it.
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  Someone like me or laymen that I look at it and say, well,
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  thousand stupid play. We got - four yards and that's
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  his. Do you think it is For him in to
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  be creative to show the creativity.
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  In the way I said it is basically the bread and butter
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  is molded and the cheese is melted and butters melted.
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  Yeah. we're at right now we're coming, you know, we got the
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  butter on the bread, but the toaster heated up, Not to me.
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  We wish you put that with you put the butter on the bread but
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  if it ain't If we can't put the heat to it we can't toast
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  anybody with it. It's true.
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  And that's a big thing. I think we scrounged up here
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  ingredients, but now we've got a now, we've got to put it all
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  together to be ready to use it. And you have two bonds that all
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  the time. You have to have something that
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  you can sit on, you have to have that bread and butter that you
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  can count on. And when you get it's different,
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  it's a different business when you're sitting here watching the
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  team and Go, they do this well and we got to stop it.
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  And you're so focused on stopping that.
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  Now all of a sudden that's sweet.
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  Become even while we were running that power turns into we
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  can pull it from that power because they figured out, they
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  have to stop it. And I concur that slant off.
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  Yo, and it back because that's a few, throwing down, hard and run
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  kit and run, help, run support, and then that slant gets under
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  that corner and we can break it for a 17, instead of two or
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  three is No, that's a that's a good week that we do without
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  asking. What do you think?
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  Do you think that's what happened on Saturday that being
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  one of the first plays, Randy knew the Duke safety, he is
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  going. If he sees it early, he is going
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  to crash and as soon as he crashed, it was Loft and wide
• 23:41
  open for a massive 50 plus yard touchdown, where it doesn't look
• 23:47
  even, even though the Hokies Run game is not, What?
• 23:50
  I mean to me it's it's the worst I've ever seen and I've been a
• 23:54
  fan close to 2 over 25 years but they still said well they're
• 23:58
  going to run it and usually you know what second down or early
• 24:01
  in the game they are going to run it they're not going to take
• 24:04
  a shot this early they don't ever do that and then all of a
• 24:06
  sudden route and that's what you're saying.
• 24:10
  Feels like we seen it game in and game out that try to
• 24:15
  establish the run early and it doesn't work out well.
• 24:19
  And we start with the Quick Pass and throwing the ball and doing
• 24:23
  things like that. Now, it doesn't help that you
• 24:25
  playing from behind and it's it's quicker to score his ways.
• 24:29
  Yeah. Rather than counting the outdoor
• 24:31
  yard at a time, but you have to, you have to focus on that run
• 24:36
  early. And I think Duke had the idea
• 24:39
  that what we see from their Scout take that if we can shut
• 24:43
  down that run early, they're going to make adjustments, to go
• 24:45
  to something else. And so, when they ran, that play
• 24:48
  action right there. Vancouver Tunes but the slow one
• 24:51
  down name and they took that shot and it was great.
• 24:55
  And then after that do kind of adjusted back and was like okay
• 24:58
  well we know they know they will go over its out, we've got to
• 25:01
  take control of that and maybe, you know, one guy difference.
• 25:05
  Maybe we can stop the run without that one guy to get this
• 25:09
  infection still Hill and and I think that was a big thing.
• 25:15
  All right, let me ask this, you know, watching the tapes and
• 25:20
  everything as far as the wide receiver tight in room goes, do
• 25:25
  you see any issues with lack of talent and does inexperience
• 25:30
  show to you? I think, I think the
• 25:36
  inexperience shows in ways, okay?
• 25:41
  I think, I don't know that there's a lot of talent.
• 25:44
  I see some Talent there, I see the way with some of those
• 25:47
  receivers move, there's definitely some Talent there,
• 25:52
  but there's some of its being taken away from those guys
• 25:58
  because It's focused on being now because there's nothing.
• 26:03
  There's no one thing that a defense have to sit down and go
• 26:06
  we got to take away and it turns out to be, okay, we don't know
• 26:13
  who's you would think, if you have any idea, if you don't have
• 26:16
  any idea who it's going to go to that, it would be easier to move
• 26:19
  it around. But the receivers don't know
• 26:22
  what either? And it's more of a big, it's
• 26:26
  kind of a, not a, that's what your dysfunction.
• 26:29
  But I mean there's an issue there, when you know, there's a
• 26:35
  tality behind those receivers. Hey, I've got to be here.
• 26:39
  I've got to make this point to do this or what we're getting
• 26:42
  and the hitting If you never know when it's coming, whether
• 26:46
  he's going to roll one way or the other, you'll have to check
• 26:49
  down things like that. It's hard to get that Rhythm.
• 26:52
  And that's a big thing. People also assume that you're
• 26:56
  so I see what you're saying by that, that you see the
• 26:59
  inexperience but what you also see is there's some guys that
• 27:04
  can do some stuff but because so much is not going the right way.
• 27:09
  Like if I told you, if you told me this team was averaging four
• 27:14
  and a half, Have a carry everything would look completely
• 27:18
  different because it would be like those teams are going to be
• 27:22
  so much worried about to run where you said you could just
• 27:24
  because you could just stood and Duke still.
• 27:29
  I'm assuming they lay guys back the rest of the game where they
• 27:32
  weren't in the picture, but they were still able to hold the
• 27:35
  Hokies to a minuscule minuscule amount of rush yards.
• 27:39
  Yeah. But you knew they had what to
• 27:42
  good linebackers. Yeah.
• 27:45
  You defensive interior lineman that can shut down Run game.
• 27:50
  And you know, you have to add an extra guy to those guys.
• 27:54
  You know, you trust it opens up something somewhere else.
• 27:58
  Once they knew that they could handle it with those interior
• 28:00
  guys, they could put the other guys in position to help other
• 28:05
  places and it makes it that much harder and I was not sure but
• 28:11
  I'm assuming to at the end experience too because Like I
• 28:15
  look through it the most experienced, guys, Caleb Smith.
• 28:17
  He's a six-year who was a walk-on.
• 28:18
  He got his, he got his papers three years ago, but lofton's a
• 28:23
  second-year guy, right? Who's who played it tight end as
• 28:27
  a true freshman out there. Making place that there's
• 28:30
  probably things that I can't see, you can't see but that
• 28:37
  linebacker. That corner knows exactly what
• 28:39
  to do. Say, if you know exactly what to
• 28:40
  do, where someone that young of the college level, it's a slow
• 28:44
  building block to, knowing he's doing this.
• 28:48
  I'm going to counter with this and it's not one second.
• 28:53
  I can do this. It's years.
• 28:55
  It's two or three years versus unless unless, unless they're
• 28:58
  special, let's just special. Yeah.
• 29:02
  I think I think they got two good upside with plenty of
• 29:08
  talent in blue and gospel but they're coming in from other
• 29:13
  programs so it's not I mean if you really look at it you got
• 29:18
  kids that have been there for a year or two or three freshmen.
• 29:22
  You got these kids even though they played years before
• 29:25
  somewhere else, still coming into this system and almost puts
• 29:29
  them back to the same level of learning everything.
• 29:31
  And as your pressure, and I mean that there wasn't a lot of time
• 29:37
  before handed to you got to spring with some of those guys
• 29:40
  coming in. And as you told me with with
• 29:43
  blue, there's been some other issues not, you know, some
• 29:48
  personal issues and that way that has cost them a little bit
• 29:51
  of time as well. And I mean, I completely
• 29:54
  understand going through some of that stuff myself, not in that
• 29:59
  aspect, but yeah, you know, So, it's focused back on those
• 30:05
  things, 100, 100 percentage and it stinks for him, because he
• 30:09
  did show out three years ago with temple.
• 30:11
  And I think a lot of us expected a lot of him, but considering
• 30:14
  the circumstances, it's amazing that kids play in this year.
• 30:18
  It's amazing. He's playing in them with
• 30:19
  Gosnell and let me ask that especially going and I didn't
• 30:25
  miss something. I didn't throw on there but I'll
• 30:27
  ask you. You introduced a new defensive
• 30:31
  scheme last year at your school. Now, this is, how long does it
• 30:37
  take in this is at any level of football, but luckily, you've
• 30:42
  coached High School Robbie close to 50 over 15 years now.
• 30:46
  Like, I remember you started 06, but you've also had players go
• 30:49
  to the college level and play. And I know you've had
• 30:52
  conversations When you had those conversations with those two
• 30:57
  guys who went to D1 programs, did you have?
• 31:00
  What did they ever say to you coach?
• 31:02
  I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get this because it's
• 31:05
  that level Stephen and I think a lot of us is me as a fan.
• 31:11
  I'm blessed. I got Siegel who played D3.
• 31:14
  I got you who've been coaching for our.
• 31:16
  I can I pick you all these years.
• 31:18
  So to me it's like when you say it's like this ain't no
• 31:22
  six-month fix because Talent update in skiing all this.
• 31:28
  But how long can you say you really want results?
• 31:31
  Check back here. From my expect to things, we put
• 31:38
  in a new defense this year. It's not tremendous amounts of
• 31:44
  different from what we ran last year.
• 31:47
  And just moving one guy around. Really, we went from we went
• 31:52
  from pretty much a for 25 to 33, so it's just moving one guy down
• 31:57
  the step. Just really all will change a
• 32:01
  lot of the same aspect. The way I took in when I had the
• 32:06
  young men who wanted with the NC State, when they sit his first,
• 32:09
  when he got his first Playbook there, he looked at me like how
• 32:13
  am I going to learn all those since you guys simplified me?
• 32:19
  I was like, you look at that thing and they've got 15
• 32:22
  different calls for you to go basically, two three different
• 32:27
  spots. That's all these.
• 32:31
  Okay. I mean you going to go see Gap.
• 32:35
  Be? Yeah.
• 32:36
  Maybe eight. Yeah.
• 32:39
  So make it that simple in your own mind and then you can feel
• 32:44
  the pain that now for me for our kids, I can start day one and I
• 32:50
  can have these three things I want to get done and if we get
• 32:54
  those three things done in a week, then I can move over there
• 32:57
  before. If we don't get those three
• 33:00
  things done is that week, then I continue to work on the next
• 33:04
  week. But the difference in what I do
• 33:08
  it compared to, to division one college football.
• 33:11
  I don't pick my guys. Now, I love my guys.
• 33:15
  Don't get that wrong, but I don't get to pick.
• 33:17
  They come out and they choose us.
• 33:19
  They choose the complaint. You know, what your scheme is?
• 33:23
  You know what you're looking for.
• 33:25
  You got to find a place to fit that, and you have to go by the
• 33:30
  same concept that I do in. If it's not here that we can't
• 33:34
  add more to it. But your leash is a little bit
• 33:37
  tighter, you know that. Oh yeah caller calling a little
• 33:40
  bit tighter so you feel a little bit more pressure that that
• 33:45
  makes a big difference. But I think I think all of them
• 33:52
  being in the these scheme and a new team and different things
• 33:57
  like that. And that doesn't that would
• 33:59
  explain any of them. None of them were on this thing
• 34:01
  right here. They were in Virginia Tech but
• 34:04
  this is a different Anything and everything from last year.
• 34:09
  So, I mean, it takes a little while to breathe and honestly to
• 34:12
  be to do some of the things as successful as they have,
• 34:16
  especially this week. I think it's a great thing that
• 34:19
  they work towards that and offense will catch up.
• 34:22
  Offense is a little offensive, a little more.
• 34:25
  Technically you have to do these paintings defense, you react got
• 34:30
  it, when it's right go to quickly react.
• 34:34
  Well, let's let's let's take. Continues on the offensive side
• 34:36
  of the ball and talk about the position you coached it goes up
• 34:40
  against every time and let's talk about the running back, the
• 34:43
  offensive line, the Run game concept.
• 34:45
  When you look at the struggles of the offensive line this year,
• 34:48
  especially in the Run game, the past Pro game has been, it's
• 34:52
  okay at times. Good.
• 34:53
  Sometimes bad with the Run game has not been good.
• 34:56
  What are you seeing? Especially you saw the Duke
• 35:00
  with. You was really ugly.
• 35:04
  My personal opinion, the way, I see it.
• 35:07
  And I see these offers environment, they do good
• 35:09
  things, don't get me wrong. Several of them, have good, some
• 35:13
  decent footwork. Some hand placement stuff is
• 35:17
  good. They're not quitting, which is a
• 35:21
  great thing in situations like this.
• 35:25
  That's what you really have to look at.
• 35:28
  When you really think about, okay?
• 35:31
  You think about the coaches that are on that staff and a type of
• 35:34
  offense, you know, that they're looking to run.
• 35:38
  It's really hard for me to see most of these offensive linemen
• 35:42
  fit you into that program. A couple of the younger ones may
• 35:47
  fit the mold and look a little a little more into it.
• 35:52
  But some of these older guys, you can really tell that there
• 35:57
  There is zone-based blocking scheme kids and they were
• 36:04
  recruited in zone-based blocking kids, which means they probably
• 36:08
  been playing in zone-based Rocking skis for years.
• 36:14
  And what we do is pouches for some muscle memory and it's hard
• 36:19
  to break it when it's been put in so long and to put them in
• 36:23
  something of a power scheme and the things that they're trying
• 36:25
  to do now it's very difficult to change some of those things up.
• 36:30
  So is that. So so that's affected are more
• 36:33
  than anything upfront. Which in fact, any and affects
• 36:37
  the running backs because walking is not bad And maybe the
• 36:42
  boss. Maybe the running backs are a
• 36:43
  little more, you know, zone-based, right stuff trying
• 36:47
  to find these when it's really not going to open in flow the
• 36:51
  same way that it used to be. All right, it's definitely your
• 36:54
  broom transition. So you kind of answer my
• 36:57
  question. I was last next about how much
• 36:58
  is it affecting Personnel. But I mean you know the name Joe
• 37:02
  Rudolph. You know how long he's had a
• 37:04
  house and you seen players, I mean heck you might have ran
• 37:07
  into him at some of the conference's you went to in the
• 37:09
  past but if I mean what can be done as a coach though because
• 37:13
  you walk in and you see Like, two guys are really three guys
• 37:22
  are really good for my scheme. One is green, he ain't will ever
• 37:25
  see the field one. Can see the field a little bit.
• 37:28
  One's Gonna Be on the field all the time, but what can you do
• 37:30
  behind closed doors? Because my assumption is, I
• 37:35
  can't change what I teach because these older guys are
• 37:39
  going to be gone in likely a year, but it wouldn't, you can
• 37:44
  you? Because you what you're saying
• 37:45
  to me is it's muscle memory and that's how we teach it.
• 37:49
  But rip it. Rip it, rip it.
• 37:50
  Rip it. You only get so much time in the
• 37:52
  spring. You only have so much time in
• 37:54
  the fall and then you're playing football games.
• 37:56
  Like what can eat? What do you think he's doing?
• 37:58
  Is it just the same old, same old or is he?
• 38:01
  You have two options when it really comes down to it, my
• 38:05
  mind, you have two options, you adjust your scheme, a little bit
• 38:09
  fit, what you have. Or you look at your personnel
• 38:14
  and go. These guys are going to be
• 38:16
  around long enough that they have to learn this.
• 38:20
  They weren't going to continue to use any college football.
• 38:24
  I think he's more into his school and they're going to,
• 38:28
  they're going to try to get these kids to understand that
• 38:30
  you learned that ski. So he's going to continue to
• 38:33
  pack. Okay.
• 38:35
  There's just like an old saying you talk about pounding the
• 38:39
  rock. Yeah okay he hit it.
• 38:41
  In the same spot is what he's doing.
• 38:44
  He's teaching his skiing and teaching his feet.
• 38:46
  He's, he's talking to them about their effort, continuing to make
• 38:51
  the noodle days, little progress, okay?
• 38:55
  And eventually that rocks, go squid, keeping it in the same
• 38:57
  product or you to go the route of.
• 39:00
  Well, this is what I got. I've got a five pound hammer and
• 39:04
  a chisel so I could try to make cracks in different ways and see
• 39:09
  if I can break it that way. But when you get the new guys
• 39:12
  either you really want to focus on your ski.
• 39:15
  Did you improve the guys that are going to be around for a
• 39:17
  year or so, It's one of those double-edged swords.
• 39:22
  You can keep forcing it in these kids go.
• 39:25
  Well, I don't see myself doing that and then they hit the
• 39:28
  portal in their out. Got it.
• 39:31
  You don't want to alienate those kids but you won't get continue
• 39:36
  to work with them when they're that.
• 39:38
  You have to love the ones that I got.
• 39:40
  And I got you. All right.
• 39:43
  Next thing, let me ask this just from a coaching perspective.
• 39:47
  Um obviously you know Malachi Thomas was out got hurt in Camp
• 39:51
  came back significantly late in the season, the primary spell
• 39:55
  gotten the guy who stepped up in his role Keeshond in probably
• 39:57
  the most explosive running back is now banged up.
• 40:02
  How does that affect think? I'm going to go Malik at the
• 40:05
  beginning of the season. And then losing king or King to
• 40:11
  come in your primary. How does that affect your
• 40:12
  playbook in your play calls? Because you saw Malachi Thomas
• 40:16
  running. Some of that tape.
• 40:17
  We're like okay, wow, he's good. And then it's like, well you
• 40:22
  don't get to have him for six and a half games.
• 40:24
  The smaller Blazer guy, he's going to have to be your
• 40:28
  primary. Like how does that change?
• 40:30
  And how does that how does it affect mentality of an offense
• 40:33
  to when, you know, you know? Hey, we're not playing with
• 40:36
  these guys, absolutely right? Mama's Little Things Can, you
• 40:40
  know, you can have a point one particular point, you know you
• 40:44
  want to be really good at you know, you want to do with, okay?
• 40:48
  There's 11 people out there that have to work together to make
• 40:51
  that play work. Where you take one back and it's
• 40:55
  been ruined this way and everybody gets used to that, it
• 40:58
  goes back to that muscle memory. Then suddenly that particular
• 41:02
  players, my bad, the next guy that comes in to run it as a
• 41:06
  step bastard. So he's a yarn ahead of this,
• 41:11
  put, you know, he's a half of your head of his puller.
• 41:15
  If he's a step slower, he's a half of urine behind this pole.
• 41:18
  So to pull the hits where the last the first guy might have
• 41:21
  hit right behind me puller. Now all of a sudden they pull
• 41:23
  her hits and a Defender has time to recover and squeeze back and
• 41:29
  people don't think about those little things like that.
• 41:32
  But the difference in the speed, the difference in the patient's,
• 41:35
  the difference in the pad level from running back to running
• 41:39
  back to change a lot of those things.
• 41:42
  Okay? And I'm going to hit the big
• 41:44
  deal. So I think that's what a lot of
• 41:46
  things. Okay, well, I've never heard.
• 41:50
  I mean, Brian, like I said it, but I've never heard someone say
• 41:52
  something like that. Basically, this guy, it takes
• 41:56
  four steps to get there. This guy is 3, but if the block
• 42:00
  isn't there well, everything changes and with Thomas he got
• 42:06
  banged up the end of spring but he was there for most of spring,
• 42:08
  he was there for most of all and I think it was about two weeks
• 42:11
  is what they're seeing before it happened two weeks before your
• 42:14
  first game. Mmmmm, he's out and I know that
• 42:16
  you start the game installation but if that's all you've been
• 42:19
  practicing with, I get what you're saying.
• 42:22
  Let's flip over to defense because you mentioned it a few
• 42:24
  minutes ago, when you're 100% right?
• 42:26
  The defense has taken strides this year, 59th and scoring 58th
• 42:31
  and total. Now where they really struggle,
• 42:34
  this Force turnovers 129, and only in only sacks where they're
• 42:39
  leading up to 80th in the country.
• 42:42
  And I want to look at the D line, you know?
• 42:44
  The leading for on the interior have only accounted for two and
• 42:47
  a half sacks this year. What do you see?
• 42:50
  They do well? And what do you think needs to
• 42:53
  change for those guys? I don't know how it was this big
• 42:59
  show, but it looks like they play well on your own up front.
• 43:05
  They can they can they can hold ground.
• 43:09
  Several of them take on double T's fairly well, they hold
• 43:13
  ground. They don't get blown way out of
• 43:15
  things. Now, they try to make a push for
• 43:19
  pass eruption. And things like that.
• 43:22
  You got one or two, that look like they make some pretty quick
• 43:24
  steps here and there, but there's not a lot of heavy
• 43:29
  penetration, not a lot of hard rushing to get, you know, to
• 43:37
  make things in the offensive Back Field.
• 43:39
  Change course, rush to get balls out.
• 43:43
  Things like that. And I think that's big upfront
• 43:47
  and by no means of that. Is that not a pretty cat?
• 43:50
  Talented group, Icy Tower middle, they just don't have the
• 43:57
  elite level high-end level, you know, penetration Rush type
• 44:03
  thing. They don't have this speed there
• 44:05
  it's it would pressure on the backfield so what you're saying
• 44:08
  is they're missing if that group had one Elite guy, just want to
• 44:13
  leave guy. He would make that group I would
• 44:16
  make them good to potentially Elite.
• 44:19
  Yeah, because you because what you're because what I'm hearing
• 44:21
  is they do good. They do things.
• 44:23
  Well, I'm assuming when you talk about like holding the runs and
• 44:27
  stuff, they play with leverage, they play in their gaps, they're
• 44:31
  not getting out of control which is sine of JC price doing good
• 44:34
  things? Absolutely.
• 44:36
  Okay, let's let's look at the edge real quick in, you know,
• 44:41
  garbage definitely the best Edge Defender.
• 44:43
  They've got he and After going after this year.
• 44:48
  Now, you've got Nelson in McRae, who were two younger, guys, have
• 44:51
  played a ton in 2023, a ton. How's that going to help them?
• 44:57
  But if it's two guys that, I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 45:01
  They're both their babies. McRae came in, from our sure,
• 45:05
  he's a freshman Nelson's of. They're both red shirt, freshman
• 45:09
  they're getting incredibly valuable.
• 45:12
  Experience at this point when it's in is something that you're
• 45:17
  not going to get from a brand new recruit.
• 45:21
  I mean, we're, we can, they could recruit 54 star defensive
• 45:26
  lineman, but they're not going to be able to match that
• 45:28
  experience of these kids are getting right now.
• 45:32
  And that to me, that's a big thing because there there is a
• 45:39
  difference and what these four and five-star recruits were
• 45:43
  seeing an offensive line and high school where one out of the
• 45:46
  five might be pretty good to where they're going to college.
• 45:51
  And now, all of a sudden, I'm getting double team by two of
• 45:54
  the best lineman I've ever seen in my life.
• 45:56
  Everybody against OB you. You know what I'm saying?
• 46:02
  Yeah, I mean we're not talking about Alabama Clemson.
• 46:05
  You do these big teams that you could run into.
• 46:08
  We're talking about the game during the schedule when people
• 46:11
  look at and go you should dominate them.
• 46:15
  To Lyman and we'll come back to this probably will be better
• 46:17
  than any two you've ever seen in high school.
• 46:21
  So that experience makes a world of difference, but adding
• 46:26
  something to that adding that ability to speed rush to get a
• 46:35
  guy that comes down the line flat and forces you to make that
• 46:40
  zone, read hand off quicker, things like that changes.
• 46:46
  The entire complexity of what you're going to see up front.
• 46:49
  If you got the time to take three steps Mometasone read
• 46:52
  before you pull it or hand it, then it makes it even easier
• 46:57
  than that decision is going to be correct.
• 46:59
  Or that could get decision will be more effective.
• 47:02
  If you got somebody screaming off that edge, that tackle.
• 47:04
  Can't block. Now I can take, but a step and a
• 47:07
  half, and I've got to make that decision now, and it better be
• 47:10
  the right. I got you a face make, most
• 47:14
  people only think of that of that rush in the pass game.
• 47:19
  But in the Run game, it's just as effective.
• 47:21
  But let me ask this, you know, the scheme pretty well, you know
• 47:26
  the scheme pretty well. McRae, Nelson getting their
• 47:31
  reps. If the pain kid who came from
• 47:33
  Nebraska's allowed a extra season, if you are defensive in
• 47:39
  at one of those bigger schools and you are stuck behind a James
• 47:43
  you know you're stuck behind and Will Anderson you're stuck
• 47:46
  behind some of the guys and even some of the smaller schools.
• 47:50
  Does this scheme defensive end wise?
• 47:54
  If Brent pry and JC pricing crif, more of called you, and it
• 47:58
  was one of your former students and said, I really think he
• 48:01
  could come here, do you think it lends itself to getting someone
• 48:07
  out of the portal to play that position next year for
• 48:12
  potentially a game changer cry? I think you, I think you could,
• 48:18
  because I think you're going to have a better chance of finding
• 48:20
  somebody that's going to make. An immediate impact there.
• 48:27
  Then you will trying to bring somebody in immediately.
• 48:31
  Now, don't get me wrong. I'm all for developing the young
• 48:33
  guys and up until recently. I've not been paying whatsoever
• 48:38
  before, but it's one of those things it's not going away.
• 48:43
  So we got to learn how to got to learn how to use it.
• 48:47
  And if it's going to benefit you, then you've it.
• 48:52
  Now, I'm not saying go out there and find that the kids as you
• 48:56
  know, he's in his fifth year, he redshirted once he's got one
• 48:59
  year, but to give us nine sacks this year.
• 49:04
  You could be losing development on somebody else with that.
• 49:08
  If there's a kid that's got three years left and you think
• 49:11
  he can really be affected that. Absolutely, I think it's a great
• 49:16
  thing to look at but they definitely need to go on that
• 49:19
  defensive front. Putting some pressure in that
• 49:22
  backfield and making things happen quicker than what's
• 49:25
  happening and it will change the entire complexity of those of
• 49:30
  those things. Also, let's flip now Now to a
• 49:33
  room that you had huge expectations for, that's a
• 49:37
  linebacker room. Are they meeting your
• 49:40
  expectations for this year? Meeting them?
• 49:46
  Some of them are exceeding them. There's guys, like we said, when
• 49:52
  we talked about this months ago in that preview, you know, we
• 49:56
  had guys that I thought were shoe into certain places and
• 49:59
  things, and I've seen several of them move around and play
• 50:02
  multiple different one. Several these guys at 40
• 50:06
  positions that I didn't think I didn't think they would put them
• 50:10
  in and have done pretty well with what they've been asked to
• 50:13
  do. I think hollifield has
• 50:18
  drastically improved, what is shown even more of what he can
• 50:23
  do? Maybe at the next level?
• 50:25
  That's going to open these up more for you.
• 50:29
  We know, he can faculty. I mean what's he got 5,000
• 50:32
  gallons in there? Seven years he's been in
• 50:34
  Blacksburg, so I'm like that but I think we we see him receiving
• 50:42
  coverage more. Now I feel like then we saw him
• 50:44
  before and he's pretty good. He's running harder to the edge
• 50:53
  showing some ability. Not trust me.
• 50:55
  I saw some of that when he was in high school he's a good
• 50:59
  friend of mine had to play against them and and state
• 51:02
  championship game at one point and that kid was they breast and
• 51:07
  I was excited that he was going to buy spread but I mean, you've
• 51:10
  got other guys back there and you've got I'm getting with
• 51:15
  these ladies, the artist. Get artist, who's the backup,
• 51:19
  Mike. He's done some good paint
• 51:22
  good-looking things when he's out there and I think there's
• 51:27
  some young guys that have been in and out at different places.
• 51:31
  I think the linebacker group has done well and I think part of
• 51:35
  what they've done, well is because they know up front, that
• 51:39
  they can hold things against the Run game and allow them to play
• 51:43
  free. There's times where I think we
• 51:47
  could use the linebackers a little more.
• 51:51
  Good to rush that back to you and make those points but that
• 51:56
  they they focused on using them the way that they have no
• 52:01
  feeling whole scraping over those kind of Concepts, and it
• 52:04
  may just be a part of the way they're trying to progress their
• 52:08
  defense and teach it is get those basics in first.
• 52:12
  Then we can get a little more exotic.
• 52:14
  We bringing things because we saw prop do some, some different
• 52:19
  Blitz looks and is it can state with a lot of linebackers
• 52:25
  Michael Parsons and in, but that doesn't have that kind of guide
• 52:30
  you And so I think he's they're focusing very much on working.
• 52:35
  The good fundamental Basics and it's really shown at linebacker.
• 52:39
  Okay, toes and then makes a lot of sense this year, especially
• 52:45
  you got dachshund Tisdale right there.
• 52:47
  The old guys Tisdale was out for a well, Tuesday.
• 52:53
  I was doing well. You heard what happened, right?
• 52:55
  You had heard the story. Yeah, which is the stupidest
• 52:58
  thing turns himself in, let's give you five games up.
• 53:02
  Okay, well, yeah, he might come back.
• 53:06
  Maybe he leaves. Maybe he doesn't because he does
• 53:08
  have a year of covid Eligibility, but I'm wondering
• 53:11
  what you're saying is, is what happened this year?
• 53:14
  I think artists has eligibility still doing, Ferguson has Ellen.
• 53:17
  There's a lot of guys who Jaden Keller, who are young and in
• 53:22
  those positions in is what your feel like what you're saying is
• 53:26
  he's not going crazy. Is he sending them sometimes on
• 53:29
  a blush? Yes.
• 53:30
  But it's like I'm If I drill the fundamentals, I don't need to
• 53:34
  worry about that next year. That'll be ingrained then I can
• 53:37
  take the next step. Now let me ask this feels like
• 53:40
  that group. Fundamentally is going to get
• 53:44
  better every week and a lot of them have the potential to still
• 53:47
  be there next year. Yep.
• 53:49
  Oliver really don't know what he's gonna get.
• 53:51
  He's the only one gone. He's the only one going.
• 53:54
  Now let me ask those the the saying the, the Sam linebacker
• 53:59
  group and we've seen Lawson Jenkins and Walker.
• 54:06
  They've all done. Really good things down there.
• 54:08
  Yes. How to now just you as a coach
• 54:11
  when you see they're doing really good on this outside.
• 54:14
  Linebacker spot. Do you want to say and your the
• 54:19
  DC? But I know you've got to talk to
• 54:20
  Dave where it's like listen they all three play.
• 54:22
  Good that can I fool somebody to backer?
• 54:24
  Can I pull some to them? How tough is that?
• 54:30
  And do you think At least one of those guys next year, if not
• 54:36
  competing will be a death piece at another linebacker spot in
• 54:39
  the way from the same position. I think what you're seeing now
• 54:44
  is just being three, very good players that that position in
• 54:48
  the future. And if they turn out to be
• 54:52
  three, very good football players.
• 54:55
  That are very good above several others.
• 54:58
  Then you find a way to put all three of those on the field at
• 55:01
  the same time. If two of them turned out to be
• 55:06
  really good football players in that position, maybe you have a
• 55:09
  good rotation of that position. There's all kinds of different
• 55:13
  ways. We always look at things is we
• 55:16
  want the best 11 men on the feet.
• 55:19
  And if that means I've got three of them at one position and
• 55:23
  there I put those three on the field.
• 55:26
  It's better than other two. That I have, then I find a way
• 55:29
  to get into that position in the assembly.
• 55:31
  Help. Got it, got it, got it.
• 55:35
  Let's put the same body. Let me flip the safety.
• 55:47
  When you start checking out the tape on this is this room
• 55:51
  playing like and I know there's some experience there but
• 55:53
  there's some young guys there. But is that room playing?
• 55:55
  Like it's the first time. A guys ever coached in Khalid
• 55:58
  college football in Pearson Prelude, I think in some ways a
• 56:07
  little bit okay they're being very cautious with some things,
• 56:12
  they're allowing him, I hate to learn along with those safeties.
• 56:16
  Okay? It's undoubtedly.
• 56:19
  The DVD section of that defense in the youngest group of all
• 56:24
  correct. Safety.
• 56:29
  No Corner. Yes, definitely.
• 56:31
  The one of the corners. Yes.
• 56:33
  For Sure, we'll talk about him in a moment.
• 56:35
  Like you said, you have a, you have a first-year coach at that
• 56:39
  level. Now he played a lot of years and
• 56:43
  he was considered a times. I considered him to be a, kind
• 56:48
  of a coach on the field working with what Pro players anyway,
• 56:53
  but he's learning. He's burning powder, turns right
• 56:56
  along with them, learning how to beat those to that position.
• 57:01
  And I think there is a bond and chemistry that's coming with
• 57:06
  that and you can see progression from the beginning of the
• 57:09
  season. The map there are still some
• 57:12
  things that probably need to be cleaned up and worked on but
• 57:15
  there's plenty to be cleaned up and work going from top to
• 57:18
  bottom. Both sides are football.
• 57:20
  Absolutely absolutely it's just a progression that we're seeing
• 57:27
  both of them at the same rate as making it.
• 57:31
  A lot. Yep.
• 57:33
  In Fort Pierce. The next year, only one guy's
• 57:35
  not coming back. That probably is that's
• 57:37
  tomorrow, Connor who it probably is, you know, his that guy, his
• 57:40
  best safety, but I get to your point likely next year when he
• 57:46
  speaks because he went through this year with all those guys.
• 57:49
  They're gonna listen. They're going to do what he says
• 57:51
  which is awesome. All right, now he's running,
• 57:54
  he's running defensive stuff from coach Frey.
• 57:58
  He's learning his defense of stuff for from more.
• 58:02
  Yeah, he's burning stuff from. I guarantee you coach, Jose is
• 58:08
  helping them with some things and how to coach, I mean, that's
• 58:11
  a process in itself is learning how to coach me down?
• 58:15
  Because one of the biggest things, and we tell our coaches,
• 58:19
  which coach with Becky. And I do a lot of coaching of
• 58:22
  our coaches, because some of our coaches were young and
• 58:25
  experienced, come over older and Since they're just willing to
• 58:29
  help but we have to coach them on how to coach, you know, they
• 58:34
  may have clean anything. We tell guys all the time,
• 58:37
  especially some of our former players going to get into
• 58:40
  coaching. Listen these guys that you're
• 58:44
  coaching may not be as good as you.
• 58:48
  So you have to teach them, the fundamentals.
• 58:51
  Participates, no one helped, most of them every play.
• 58:55
  I've hated so far and probably be better than what I was.
• 58:58
  Because I was not a very good point.
• 59:01
  There's not a lot of athletic ability here.
• 59:04
  There was a lot of intellectual ability for the game.
• 59:07
  I'm not a lot of athletic ability.
• 59:10
  And I have to learn how to teach those guys, the pieces that I
• 59:15
  know, well and related to what they do well and I think he's
• 59:20
  learning how to do that. And it does, the more coach
• 59:23
  Prelude, learns, how to do that. The more he'll be able to relay
• 59:27
  and the quicker, you'll be able to see that progression.
• 59:29
  Take place. Got it.
• 59:31
  Let's talk about Derrick Jones room here.
• 59:33
  And let me talk the cheetah, the cheetah, the cheetah, someone
• 59:38
  you've had some run-ins with when he coach down at Duke and
• 59:41
  he, I think he had your territory, but from a defensive
• 59:44
  coordinator standpoint first, when you lose a number one
• 59:48
  corner, like Dorian strong and Dorian strong is a well rounded
• 59:52
  corner. Is he extra athletic?
• 59:54
  He's got some athleticism. Is he graded out?
• 59:58
  But it's like there is no one weak point in door in Strong's
• 1:00:00
  game. When a guy like that goes down,
• 1:00:04
  and you're sitting there Robbie, and you're getting those game
• 1:00:07
  plans together. How much does that hinder?
• 1:00:09
  What it is? Of coordinator, can call. hey,
• 1:00:13
  it's big when you when you got a guy you know you can count on
• 1:00:17
  and you know I don't have to worry about I can take me down
• 1:00:23
  away from the office with this and I don't have to think about
• 1:00:28
  that again. So now I don't have that piece
• 1:00:33
  and now that's another thing that I got to take from the
• 1:00:36
  offense and figure out how to take it away.
• 1:00:38
  Now I have been very impressed with watching the young man that
• 1:00:44
  they brought in for him and Monsour delayed.
• 1:00:48
  Oh, you ain't Delaney. Delaney He has been pressure.
• 1:00:56
  But there were some, there was the moment, especially the Duke
• 1:01:00
  game. He still shows that he is a true
• 1:01:02
  freshman, he's like 90 years old, he gets, he Gap.
• 1:01:07
  There. There's, there's definitely
• 1:01:10
  things that come into that progression.
• 1:01:12
  I was just talking about, but the patients and the things like
• 1:01:16
  that because in high school, you could be the best player on the
• 1:01:21
  field and you can make a mistake and make up for it real quickly.
• 1:01:24
  Because the Prosper, music was not the Four Star Property when
• 1:01:30
  you get to this college level everybody across from you.
• 1:01:33
  The best gal. Dirty.
• 1:01:35
  So, even those little mistakes look, big herbs and I mean he's
• 1:01:41
  going to get better with those things in here, but he's shown
• 1:01:45
  enough fundamental things for me, as a true freshman that
• 1:01:49
  they've got somebody in the next year or so that they're going to
• 1:01:54
  be upset. He's on that.
• 1:01:57
  We don't have to worry about that for the love it.
• 1:02:00
  Love it. Love it.
• 1:02:04
  You mentioned it a few minutes ago and I'm going to just kind
• 1:02:07
  of get your take on the portal and you gave me your take.
• 1:02:12
  Just this is just your guess, this is just what you seen and
• 1:02:17
  you know, I know you don't know the roster as good as Brian and
• 1:02:20
  I do because you've got your own roster, you've got two minutes,
• 1:02:23
  I'm like yeah and it's not fantasy.
• 1:02:25
  It's all right. But just looking at what you saw
• 1:02:32
  on the field, knowing it's a lot of young players coming through
• 1:02:36
  that kind of impressed. You the most yeah how many how
• 1:02:41
  many how many Guys in the portal.
• 1:02:42
  Do you think Tech should take? Not will take but should It's
• 1:02:51
  going to sound very neat but I think you take as many as you
• 1:02:55
  need to to improve in areas that you have to and I know that
• 1:03:02
  sounds very cliche very. Let's go speaking.
• 1:03:07
  Yes, unless somebody's visited North world's tomorrow, that's
• 1:03:09
  why he's saying that tonight Yahoo's visit sometimes.
• 1:03:11
  Visit you are more than welcome come.
• 1:03:14
  See us it's gonna be cold. Bring a coat.
• 1:03:22
  If there's five pieces there that there are people in their
• 1:03:27
  portal, that feel five needs and can get on that field in the
• 1:03:32
  spring and next fall and play and make a difference.
• 1:03:36
  Then you take five if there's eight, there is three of them
• 1:03:42
  can make a difference immediately and then five, Could
• 1:03:47
  possibly feel some death row for us.
• 1:03:50
  Maybe you take six. It's good.
• 1:03:53
  Eh it's I really feel like and we were talking about it before
• 1:04:00
  we went on about the recruits and the class and the things
• 1:04:04
  like that if they feel very strongly about the recruiting
• 1:04:08
  class and the guys going to bring it in focus on those guys.
• 1:04:13
  But if you still feel like you have a hole there, use that for
• 1:04:17
  again, like I said, I wasn't a huge fan of it to begin with,
• 1:04:21
  but it's not going anywhere. So we might as well we're not.
• 1:04:25
  It will jump in and take what we came.
• 1:04:28
  And I mean, if it makes it any better, it makes the team medic.
• 1:04:33
  Awesome. Alright.
• 1:04:35
  Okay. For about 45, 15.
• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:07
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  Now back to the episode All right, and we are back and now
• 1:05:39
  it's time for Know The Enemy Liberty.
• 1:05:41
  Let's start on the offensive side of the ball Robbie and
• 1:05:44
  let's start with Jonathan Bennett the quarterback.
• 1:05:48
  He was a three-star composite when he came out of Somerville
• 1:05:51
  High School in Summerville South Carolina.
• 1:05:54
  Primarily mostly G5 offers from him kind of took over the role.
• 1:05:59
  When Charlie Brewer went down early in the season and he's
• 1:06:02
  excelled thus far this year, you know, over 1,300 yards, you
• 1:06:06
  know, 12 touchdowns to nine interceptions, 154 yards,
• 1:06:11
  rushing, what are you seeing? When you looked at his tape?
• 1:06:18
  For this game. He's he is a, he's very
• 1:06:24
  noticeable. I would say the quarterback
• 1:06:27
  position and and seeing would coach breathe and Liberty has
• 1:06:32
  done in many other areas. He a lot of things run through
• 1:06:38
  that quarterback and especially what he done in Liberty with
• 1:06:41
  Malik Willis last year and who's I think with the Titans mail,
• 1:06:46
  which I know, Jason was more than excited.
• 1:06:48
  They were talking about the Titans right here.
• 1:06:53
  The big thing was he had an uncommon amount of experience
• 1:06:57
  playing behind Willis last year in filling, in some games and
• 1:07:03
  playing some with some of the research and stuff.
• 1:07:05
  I did looking at it, he played in nine different games last
• 1:07:09
  year behind the week Willis. So those are big things and he's
• 1:07:17
  got, he's got a very wild arm moves around very well in the
• 1:07:22
  pocket. He can make things happen with
• 1:07:25
  it, with his feet, with his, with his throwing ability, that
• 1:07:29
  there was a one-point on them. There was one point in the game
• 1:07:35
  against UConn, he's running towards the sidelines from
• 1:07:40
  pressure. He sees the guy in front of him,
• 1:07:43
  he just flips it over in front of it and they gained 67 yards
• 1:07:47
  out of what he was, just trying to get the sidelines and not
• 1:07:49
  lose anything. I mean now as a quarterback
• 1:07:53
  sometimes that can be a little advice.
• 1:07:57
  Not everybody can do with Patrick Holmes, doesn't switch
• 1:08:00
  hands and throw it and it just for fun.
• 1:08:04
  But those are the kind of things that he does offer and you have
• 1:08:07
  to watch out for the. One thing I did notice is a
• 1:08:12
  1-point difference. Score on his, you car and he
• 1:08:14
  gets hit, he gets taken down one time and I don't know what they
• 1:08:18
  call on the ball or what, but he comes up breathing hard, he's
• 1:08:22
  holding his ribs, he comes out and they bring in another
• 1:08:25
  quarterback. Number seven.
• 1:08:28
  And I'm going to tell you what. It's been, it's a really good
• 1:08:34
  quarterback and really got. You got to keep an eye out.
• 1:08:38
  It's not what happens to him. And Stephen comes in that man's
• 1:08:42
  a threat. He throws the ball.
• 1:08:44
  Well he runs well, and I didn't want to get a lot of use to him
• 1:08:48
  because I think Bennett is the guy that they're they're using
• 1:08:51
  and going with. But if you see that next
• 1:08:54
  quarterback, come in. There's a reason behind it.
• 1:08:57
  Is that kids got some athletic ability.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah it's probably Kate on Salter.
• 1:09:00
  You're talking about there. That's what it was.
• 1:09:03
  Yeah salty. Yeah he's definitely more of a
• 1:09:05
  running thread to and Bennett and Probably their quarterback
• 1:09:09
  of the future. Honestly, probably the
• 1:09:11
  quarterback of the future. Unless unless Hugh decides to go
• 1:09:14
  to Auburn. Liberty's basically in her
• 1:09:21
  backyard. True.
• 1:09:23
  We all know that it Liberty wants to keep him back.
• 1:09:27
  And as long as he's not chasing, the national championship
• 1:09:30
  Liberty, keep paging him just as much as all the did he?
• 1:09:34
  That's true. But it's the lawyer man.
• 1:09:35
  Is the Lord. Let's talk about the running a
• 1:09:38
  little bit next. Let's, um, I know you mentioned
• 1:09:40
  to me, she drove Louis is out. He was out against UConn, likely
• 1:09:44
  going to miss this week. But you know what?
• 1:09:46
  And he'd been their primary backup.
• 1:09:48
  But when him out with the, the primary guide a day, Honor, who
• 1:09:53
  is absolutely tearing it up before he got hurt against
• 1:09:55
  Arkansas. Yeah, they bring in a third
• 1:09:58
  string, running back, third string running back.
• 1:10:01
  TJ, green, TJ, green and originally committed to Utah.
• 1:10:06
  Out of Chandler, High School in Chandler.
• 1:10:08
  Arizona was a three-star composite 3, star overall 247
• 1:10:14
  Sports. And to me, I like how in him.
• 1:10:17
  If he kicks the guy, you normally feel good about the
• 1:10:19
  guy. And I tell you, I mean, Robbie,
• 1:10:23
  I mean he put up numbers, he put up numbers against.
• 1:10:28
  He was the first string running back.
• 1:10:29
  There are strong and he goes up and goes from 119.
• 1:10:34
  He was believed rusher for the team last year.
• 1:10:37
  Running back. He was one of their best options
• 1:10:41
  at running back. Last year, what does that say
• 1:10:43
  for the other two? If you're leading rusher for
• 1:10:46
  last year, on a team to did, as well as they did is now the
• 1:10:49
  third option that don't play well that don't play well for
• 1:10:54
  Keys, got to figure out how to shut down the road, not at all.
• 1:10:57
  So what are you seeing from? What are you seeing from him?
• 1:11:00
  Just as far as playing he give you.
• 1:11:04
  He has an explosive dual threat out of the backfield.
• 1:11:08
  He can hit holes, he take off. He gets to the second level
• 1:11:11
  quickly. He'll attack your safeties in
• 1:11:15
  the hole opens enough but he can he can be the guy out today.
• 1:11:20
  Is that you step down and, and make moves and get out of here.
• 1:11:28
  He's a DJ Greener. Is going to be a guy to watch.
• 1:11:32
  He's going to be a guy to keep your eye.
• 1:11:33
  I don't it. Every every chance the big thing
• 1:11:36
  is they He runs the ball. Well, he's quick, he hits hole.
• 1:11:43
  He finds his scenes but it almost looks like Liberty
• 1:11:47
  doesn't use it as much as they could.
• 1:11:50
  They could literally hand that ball off and grind that guy and
• 1:11:56
  and be very similar to what we saw at pit and hit it, hit it,
• 1:12:01
  hit it, then it breaks huge. But it's like it's Ricky gets
• 1:12:08
  difficult for you seven or eight or nine, and they go, okay, that
• 1:12:11
  was good. Let's try to swing it out to a
• 1:12:14
  receiver and see what Get out there in space.
• 1:12:17
  Well, it's you'll find out minute.
• 1:12:18
  It's not a bad option either. Well, I was getting ready to
• 1:12:21
  say. There is a reason why they don't
• 1:12:24
  do that and he is name is Demario, Douglas.
• 1:12:28
  He is only five foot eight. He is only 165 pounds.
• 1:12:33
  He was not rated coming out of high school down in
• 1:12:36
  Jacksonville, Florida. He had some offers from
• 1:12:38
  Gardner-Webb UAB Florida Atlantic and he finally landed
• 1:12:42
  at Liberty Robbie before I get into the that's I'm going to let
• 1:12:46
  you break down. Exactly what you see on him.
• 1:12:51
  You could you can see our notes. I know you've been looking at.
• 1:12:54
  What's the very first thing I have on their notes about this
• 1:12:56
  guy now the old dr. Dre song, explosive explosive.
• 1:13:02
  This Gap is there. Do.
• 1:13:04
  What? All they can throw it to and
• 1:13:07
  down field? They can throw it to him on
• 1:13:09
  strings. He's better return me this.
• 1:13:13
  This young man is, Very tough to take down his face.
• 1:13:20
  He moves in and out of things. Well, he moves his, he he's very
• 1:13:24
  quick on his routes. He adjusts his Route, 12, and
• 1:13:29
  once he catches the ball, that's just half of it.
• 1:13:32
  But I mean, you've got to be, you got to be ready to take care
• 1:13:35
  of him after that or he should return five yard, catch into a
• 1:13:41
  25 year old passenger hurt. I mean, he's exposed quickly,
• 1:13:47
  he's not very big. It looks like he's been wrapped
• 1:13:50
  in butter. There's some teams over the
• 1:13:52
  season they have had a very hard time keeping hands on you well
• 1:13:58
  and it shows two men. It shows cuz I mean in 10 games,
• 1:14:02
  he's got eight hundred thirty yards, he's at over 14, half
• 1:14:06
  perception, he's got six touchdowns and last week, they
• 1:14:09
  got involved in the running game where he broke a huge one for a
• 1:14:12
  touchdown. And with their style office.
• 1:14:18
  And I mean, they're running, they're running a pretty Pretty
• 1:14:22
  high tempo. Power spread right deal.
• 1:14:27
  You know, they can hit you hard with the with the Run game
• 1:14:29
  inside. Do you get a guy like this?
• 1:14:32
  You can pop out and throw it to him and with their Tempo, the
• 1:14:36
  way they don't line up and run for you move quickly.
• 1:14:39
  You got to try to find it every foot.
• 1:14:41
  It will seize it. You know, when we call the wire
• 1:14:45
  dizi, the outside the car outside guy.
• 1:14:47
  Now the next point he's in, it's locked, you know, he's number
• 1:14:51
  three in a trip. Next thing, you know, He's the
• 1:14:54
  backfield, he's on it, on the receiver side and empty
• 1:15:01
  formation and he jetting across. I mean, you got to find it for
• 1:15:05
  you in and play out. He's moving around.
• 1:15:08
  It makes it tough. Makes it really tough on the
• 1:15:11
  defense to have to find somebody that explosive while you're just
• 1:15:15
  trying to get everybody lined up.
• 1:15:17
  Because of their Tempo that it's going to be a big thing.
• 1:15:20
  It's going to be tough. All right.
• 1:15:23
  I know you wanted to hit two more players on the offensive
• 1:15:26
  side of the ball. For we talk about the scheme and
• 1:15:28
  that's the tight ends, Austin, Austin, Henderson number. 83
• 1:15:33
  Jerome Jackson. Number 88 Henderson was
• 1:15:35
  originally a Minnesota commit in Jackson, is at a Fort Worth
• 1:15:40
  Texas. Basically super under the radar.
• 1:15:45
  Exactly? Like what do you like they do?
• 1:15:47
  Do they do they are they on the field?
• 1:15:48
  The same time or they kind of interchangeable?
• 1:15:52
  but me, when you look at them, you know, looking at Virginia
• 1:15:58
  Tech they both have kind of a blue brick kind of feel.
• 1:16:04
  Okay, thank God won't reach. You can line them up in the
• 1:16:07
  backfield as the HVAC like block, very well, both of them
• 1:16:11
  walk very well, but they've also got the leaked inability to line
• 1:16:15
  up out wide as a receiver. And the biggest thing with that
• 1:16:19
  is they're blocking well then field for those screens that the
• 1:16:24
  throne Douglas, they're blocking well, inside to help the Run
• 1:16:28
  game but suddenly okay. And we're talking about a
• 1:16:33
  defense is looking at personal mail, okay?
• 1:16:35
  We got two tight ends on the field.
• 1:16:37
  Well, as, as a defensive coordinator, they got two tight
• 1:16:43
  ends on the field. They're probably going to run
• 1:16:45
  something powerful inside. Well they do, they line up two
• 1:16:49
  tight ends, they run a power look, well then they Tempo.
• 1:16:52
  Get back to the ball and then they didn't change your body on
• 1:16:55
  the field which means I can't rotate anybody off the field or
• 1:17:00
  onto the field defensively and that Tempo.
• 1:17:02
  But now they're 5y well what happened to those two tight
• 1:17:05
  ends? Well they're split out wide or
• 1:17:08
  just get a receiver that there is what we need.
• 1:17:12
  That's a big thing. When you can take two guys that
• 1:17:16
  you're set with your defense to go against the power and next
• 1:17:19
  thing, you know, they're out wide and they're on a five or
• 1:17:22
  Seaver set and things like that. That make sense Tempo a lot more
• 1:17:26
  dangerous when you can make that many different formations with
• 1:17:29
  the same, guys that look like a power set.
• 1:17:33
  Now, I've got, you know, four defensive linemen and three true
• 1:17:37
  linebackers in there. I've got two linebackers.
• 1:17:39
  Trying to cover receipts I don't work.
• 1:17:42
  It ain't it. You better work.
• 1:17:44
  So what else is it about this? What else is it about?
• 1:17:48
  The scheme of Hugh, freeze, obviously, it's the up-tempo
• 1:17:51
  spread its the having these. I wouldn't say interchangeable,
• 1:17:54
  but guys, he can take from being at a church or being on a wing
• 1:17:59
  to pulling back. What else do you see on this
• 1:18:01
  offense? Those things that they do and
• 1:18:05
  they and they do well, they have the guys that can play well in
• 1:18:09
  space and they can move they can run.
• 1:18:11
  It back out to one side, have Douglas on the other.
• 1:18:14
  You have to respect that on both sides.
• 1:18:17
  You have to find those guys in that Temple process in turn that
• 1:18:22
  makes your Defense Act to simplify a little bit more to
• 1:18:26
  make sure that those calls are easily transferable easily
• 1:18:32
  translatable and set up quickly so that you can you sound as
• 1:18:37
  possible and I think that's I think that's good present.
• 1:18:41
  Quite a challenge is some aspects and how many now it
• 1:18:47
  allows them to be up-tempo and it allows them to put some
• 1:18:52
  yardage on the field quickly. And in many ways it's happened
• 1:19:01
  to me before it can also turn against you very quick because
• 1:19:05
  if you get into that Tempo and that defense finds a way to kind
• 1:19:10
  of shut those squeeze down. Then all of a sudden your
• 1:19:13
  offense is on the field for about 17 seconds of game clock
• 1:19:17
  and your defense is on the field.
• 1:19:19
  You know 100 please and it away ioudiy pants down.
• 1:19:24
  Got it. When we talk about a defense,
• 1:19:26
  I'll talk a little bit more about about that but thank you.
• 1:19:30
  If Virginia Tech and find a way to slow that Tempo even though
• 1:19:34
  they're turned to run it or shut down the things that they like
• 1:19:39
  to do with that Tempo, it's going to put more pressure on
• 1:19:42
  their defense which in turn will help that softens.
• 1:19:44
  I think I got it. All right, no matter what they
• 1:19:47
  can get that done. All right, well, let's flip over
• 1:19:50
  to defense and let's let's talk about a couple of these guys
• 1:19:53
  over here. Let's talk about the guy who's
• 1:19:55
  been absolutely lighting up. The A statistical data this
• 1:20:00
  year. And that is the defensive end.
• 1:20:03
  Darrell Johnson, 64 235 pounds. A Juco out of a sa College up in
• 1:20:08
  new, in Brooklyn, New York. And I'm sure you had a fun time
• 1:20:12
  watching this kid. Robbie seven sacks ATM half
• 1:20:16
  tackles for loss or T3. Total tackles.
• 1:20:20
  He's also forced a fumble, multiple pass deflected.
• 1:20:25
  Multiple fumble. Recoveries Tell me, tell me how
• 1:20:29
  fun was it watching this kid and what stood out for you?
• 1:20:32
  He's back disruptor that I've talked about the tech needs to
• 1:20:35
  look for He's he's an athlete but he's not Elite World.
• 1:20:42
  Beaten, is Scott's really good? He's not a, he's not somebody
• 1:20:49
  that people are looking at right now going.
• 1:20:53
  Will consider him with a top 3 round bracket.
• 1:20:58
  But statistically, he's putting up numbers.
• 1:21:00
  Yes, he is. He's a disruptive, he's forcing
• 1:21:03
  backfield to make decisions quickly, whether it's throw the
• 1:21:07
  ball, when they're not ready, whether it's the hand that zone
• 1:21:10
  read or the or the different things there, before they're
• 1:21:13
  ready having to pull it and make it throws on the rpos quicker
• 1:21:17
  than they do. That's why he's getting class,
• 1:21:20
  deflections, he's in there, they make the wrong read on his own.
• 1:21:24
  He's there to tackle it. That's where the top.
• 1:21:27
  Tackles for loss or coming from, I mean he's a disruptive, he's
• 1:21:31
  doing things fundamentally way. He sets The Edge tremendously,
• 1:21:36
  well, which helps them with those tackles for losses.
• 1:21:39
  Well, I mean, he'll he'll stick your stick your hand in there in
• 1:21:43
  a hurry and nobody's getting outside of his shoulder.
• 1:21:47
  If you try to run his own or stretch to his age, he's got it
• 1:21:53
  covered. That's your type of player that
• 1:21:55
  he had, he's got some very long arms, got a good reach and those
• 1:22:00
  things helped him a lot. It's helped him a lot with
• 1:22:06
  knocking balls down to the going to check downs and things like
• 1:22:09
  that as well. So I mean he's definitely going
• 1:22:12
  to be a niche, you on that edge. But the good part is I don't
• 1:22:16
  think Virginia Tech's, not a team that looks to be running.
• 1:22:20
  A lot of ads, run plays a lot of stretches and, and wide zones
• 1:22:26
  and things like that. So his outside shoulder ability,
• 1:22:30
  which is going to help him. Most when Wells, Trying to roll
• 1:22:34
  out the pro bowls. I think that's where he'll
• 1:22:38
  you'll cause some trouble in enforcing Grant could try to
• 1:22:43
  throw snowballs. Maybe a little sooner than he
• 1:22:45
  looked for having to adjust his arm angle and make those balls,
• 1:22:49
  go around a little bit and that we know that can happen with
• 1:22:52
  Grant, the way this year's going.
• 1:22:54
  And Brian, let's talk about his running mate.
• 1:22:56
  They're on the defensive line as well Dennis.
• 1:22:59
  Oh, so jitta from Missouri City Texas.
• 1:23:02
  Originally a commit to you. A mass way back in 2000 and
• 1:23:09
  2017. So he enrolled in 2018.
• 1:23:15
  So he's played Collegiate football, quite a few years.
• 1:23:18
  And so, really, he's 22. 23 years old came through here,
• 1:23:23
  obviously via the portal 61 about 300 pounds, good size,
• 1:23:30
  what's the tape showing on him? He is, he is a crawl.
• 1:23:36
  Disrupt full force the double team's defensive interior
• 1:23:42
  defensive linemen. They like the volume up in a
• 1:23:48
  gap. Over the guard, enforce the
• 1:23:51
  center, to have to help with him.
• 1:23:55
  Because obviously, the tackle has her hands full opposite of
• 1:23:59
  that. With, with Vicki Johnson, makes
• 1:24:03
  he forces double team, which allows has Linebackers to move
• 1:24:08
  freely and make tactics make points.
• 1:24:12
  Both of their defensive tackles do pretty good job of forcing
• 1:24:16
  the attention of the offensive line and that makes it a lot
• 1:24:21
  easier for for your linebackers to move freely.
• 1:24:24
  That's one thing that I feel like we did well here this year
• 1:24:28
  was that defensive line Force? Double teams and places of our
• 1:24:31
  linebackers wrapped up fact and I that's a good fundamental to
• 1:24:35
  do with With the defense and I think they're pretty good at it.
• 1:24:40
  But but 90 I'm not even trying to put that last name out there.
• 1:24:47
  Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, the Menace.
• 1:24:51
  That is a good way to put it, he plays low, he plays with good
• 1:24:56
  pad level, it's hard to move out of the Gap even with a double
• 1:24:59
  team. So if you're trying to pound it
• 1:25:02
  into a gap, then He's spilling it and your linebackers are
• 1:25:09
  coming on, either side of it to shut other things down.
• 1:25:13
  And with offensive line that has not shown a lot of consistency
• 1:25:18
  of making push and clearing things out in some of those
• 1:25:23
  areas. He's going to be, he's going to
• 1:25:25
  be some trouble up front and those linebackers will be coming
• 1:25:29
  pretty quickly. There's no reason why they have
• 1:25:31
  it in tackles for loss and playing a lot of people's Back
• 1:25:34
  Field that they do. Oh yeah.
• 1:25:36
  And he himself I mean he's got ten and a half tackles for loss,
• 1:25:39
  66 saxo you. You're talking about him being
• 1:25:42
  disruptive and being able to hold the gaps in He's obviously
• 1:25:45
  giving up in there, making plays as well.
• 1:25:48
  And you know, let's flip and talk about the linebackers
• 1:25:50
  because you wanted to kind of talk about all three of them.
• 1:25:53
  You got, you got Mike Smith, he was a Juco transfer from
• 1:25:57
  Mississippi Gulf Coast hiring Dupree enrolled in Liberty way,
• 1:26:01
  back in 2018. So he's a fifth year guy and
• 1:26:04
  then I'm Ed Walker at a Warner Robins Georgia.
• 1:26:08
  I mean, the kid was a two-star coming out of high school, he's
• 1:26:13
  the class of 21. One is his only his second
• 1:26:16
  season, he's a redshirt freshman.
• 1:26:18
  And this group in general, I know you talked about Robbie
• 1:26:21
  made mentioned like all these guys have 40 plus tackles
• 1:26:24
  playing linebacker Robbie, they got 21 and a half tackles for
• 1:26:28
  losses group. Yeah, I mean and a Lobby
• 1:26:31
  laughing these three guys. A lot of that comes from, they
• 1:26:36
  have protection. A lot of people don't think
• 1:26:39
  about protection difference, it would that have a lot of
• 1:26:41
  protection up front and those defense bombing Those two guys
• 1:26:46
  interior-wise free them up because they take the blockers
• 1:26:51
  and they look the field, it and ruin and they do they do well at
• 1:26:57
  it. I will tell you the honest
• 1:26:59
  truth. I mod Walker reminds me a lot of
• 1:27:04
  a mr. Edmonds, and you should play in
• 1:27:07
  the burgundy and orange. Thank you his size, he plays
• 1:27:13
  very similar game and that way he's having a pretty good career
• 1:27:19
  I think with Buffalo. So just a little bit his style
• 1:27:24
  reminds me, a lot of that and The fact that he's in his second
• 1:27:29
  year is going to be a name that here for a while.
• 1:27:34
  Hundred percent of side Mike Smith is that slate he didn't
• 1:27:41
  play against you. If he do quizzes, you found me
• 1:27:43
  with minimally. I don't remember seeing him but
• 1:27:47
  his stats before self when you go back and look at a lot of the
• 1:27:51
  other games, you see him a lot. I mean he's in place and a lot
• 1:27:57
  of that. Ben's opening in front of them
• 1:28:01
  because of that defensive front because of the, the deacons
• 1:28:05
  Devine and those two tackles when you have five Ramen that
• 1:28:09
  are there to block and you have to use all Vibe over the block
• 1:28:12
  two or three it, frees up the linebackers, to really make
• 1:28:16
  plays and and all three of them. Excuse me, do very well with
• 1:28:22
  that. So they should be very
• 1:28:23
  appreciative of those monsters up front that are helping them.
• 1:28:28
  But Bobby EG speak. Broadly speaking like a true
• 1:28:32
  defensive line coach. Right?
• 1:28:33
  There are going to be in the amount of tackles for
• 1:28:49
  loss. They've got which I want to talk
• 1:28:50
  about when we talk about the keys but it's helping that back
• 1:28:54
  in. And probably the guy that's
• 1:28:56
  benefited the most is Is the sixth 385 pounds safety and
• 1:29:01
  Robert Ray me out of San Antonio, Texas.
• 1:29:05
  I mean Robbie, we looked at we take a look at his stats.
• 1:29:07
  I mean, I mean solid you know, tackle numbers for safety but
• 1:29:12
  that kids got five picks and yeah, I am assuming probably.
• 1:29:16
  What you see is the linemen are forcing the ball earlier.
• 1:29:21
  The linebackers are coming up fortunate earlier, and he's and
• 1:29:25
  he's and he's taking full advantage of it.
• 1:29:27
  He benefiting over 100 percent. He he's a lot of he's in the
• 1:29:33
  middle of the field a lot. Now I wouldn't say that there.
• 1:29:38
  Their past defense, their corners and things like that are
• 1:29:42
  the strong point of that defense.
• 1:29:44
  Okay. But this efficient enough
• 1:29:47
  because of the pressure and the things that they're getting up
• 1:29:52
  burnt from the rep, from the linebackers from the defensive
• 1:29:57
  end that balls are getting out of there quickly and sometimes
• 1:30:00
  they getting out of that inherently and the DVDs are
• 1:30:04
  really benefit from that here more so than a lot boss.
• 1:30:08
  He's coming over to Middle ball deflected and he's picking
• 1:30:13
  things up that way. He's actually very good against
• 1:30:16
  the run to me. If they get through the other
• 1:30:19
  parts. As you said, with the tackles,
• 1:30:22
  he's getting those. They're not a lot of long
• 1:30:26
  Pursuit on big play tackles it's oh they squeezed by somebody and
• 1:30:31
  now he's there to help out. He's a he's a very patient
• 1:30:38
  safety. I would say and that's when a
• 1:30:41
  lot of those other secular picks and things off of balls, that
• 1:30:47
  probably shouldn't have been thrown when they were hit balls,
• 1:30:51
  things like that. So, watching him in several
• 1:30:56
  games, he's obviously a very vocal leader of that group as
• 1:31:00
  well. Okay, and follow him.
• 1:31:04
  And he's the, he's a very motivational inspirational.
• 1:31:08
  No part of that defense in the whole thing.
• 1:31:12
  So I thought we would be doing them a disservice if we didn't
• 1:31:17
  mention it, in many of those ways.
• 1:31:19
  Also, what do you see on this defensive scheme?
• 1:31:22
  And what you do we've talked about some of the players and
• 1:31:25
  you've been mentioning kind of throughout.
• 1:31:26
  But what are a few other things to look for in this scheme that
• 1:31:31
  their space? My man, those guys up front, eat
• 1:31:35
  you eat your your interior space up.
• 1:31:38
  He's going to be Hard to squeeze power runs in there because of
• 1:31:41
  the way, they clog things up and a lot of linebackers to run
• 1:31:44
  free. They rely a lot on those double.
• 1:31:48
  Tees up front and allow those linebackers playing your
• 1:31:51
  backfield. They force you to play the game
• 1:31:56
  horizontally. Okay, from side to side, instead
• 1:32:00
  of getting too much down bill. Now if you can find a protection
• 1:32:04
  and you can get the ball out, Think Tank and take some
• 1:32:07
  Advantage with some decent receivers.
• 1:32:11
  If Grant can stay poised enough in that pocket to get balls out
• 1:32:15
  quickly, I think they can take advantage of the dbe's not being
• 1:32:20
  the best, but he's got to be, you got to be ready for that.
• 1:32:24
  First week, will take some shots.
• 1:32:26
  Got to realize that we're going to have to make some Some
• 1:32:29
  extraordinary push up front to make that run game work or else
• 1:32:33
  they're just gonna they're gonna pressure you all night?
• 1:32:38
  All right. Well, let's flip we got, we've
• 1:32:40
  talked players. We taught skiing only just talk
• 1:32:42
  about a couple Keys here. I looked at Robby and I will
• 1:32:44
  talk. The first one is Hokies tackles
• 1:32:47
  for loss. Liberty, they can give up some
• 1:32:51
  on their offensive line. I mean they're 115 thin.
• 1:32:53
  The country they're given up about 80 game. 24 yards in the
• 1:32:58
  Hokies are roughly a top 50 getting about six.
• 1:33:01
  So slightly above average in after hearing you mentioned
• 1:33:05
  about this offense in the chunk plays and how quick they can go
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  out if we aren't, if we don't at least hit their average, it's
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  going to even longer day than I think it's already going to be.
• 1:33:18
  If you're telling me we're down to what we normally average,
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  it's not going to be good at all, if we can live in that
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  backfield. Yeah.
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  And it's going to go back to what I was talking about.
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  If you can, if you can play in that back, you can play in their
• 1:33:31
  backfield and forth that Tempo to run them off the field.
• 1:33:37
  Weekly then tax defense is going to be on the field last time.
• 1:33:44
  And Virginia Tech's going to have to control things office.
• 1:33:49
  If Virginia Tech can't control, things offensive ly and the
• 1:33:54
  Defense Forces Liberty in on and off the field quickly and you
• 1:33:59
  know, 345 play drives and getting the ball back.
• 1:34:03
  Then both of these defenses are going to be wiped out by the end
• 1:34:06
  of oh I don't I don't doubt that whatsoever.
• 1:34:10
  I don't know if that but but you've already mentioned it.
• 1:34:15
  With Liberty to about tackles for loss.
• 1:34:16
  I mean, they're the best team in the country at getting tackles
• 1:34:19
  for loss. They are and and now the Hokey
• 1:34:23
  our approaches, but they're not atrocious.
• 1:34:27
  They give up a little. They actually give up less than
• 1:34:29
  Liberty, they're not as bad as you think.
• 1:34:34
  I think a lot what goes on with that offensive line is what you
• 1:34:37
  seen is not being able to either missing a step or get in there
• 1:34:42
  and not making the push where they're not.
• 1:34:44
  Driven back but when you plan A Team like Liberty and you see
• 1:34:48
  them, you know, 9/10 times a game on top of potentially, what
• 1:34:52
  they do is sacks. I mean if they hit that average
• 1:34:58
  it's again going to be a long day.
• 1:35:00
  So you you've said it they make you play horizontally and I
• 1:35:06
  think in some ways it's okay to play horizontally because going
• 1:35:10
  into a wall 40 times and getting 1.6% Per carry ankle and do
• 1:35:16
  anything to you. At least horizontally, at least
• 1:35:19
  horizontally. If you can miss a tackle get
• 1:35:25
  eight yards. Exactly perfectly set up a
• 1:35:28
  screen, get 20 a you're going to probably see the safeties move
• 1:35:34
  it's going to slowly start moving the box where you can say
• 1:35:36
  Grant we're about to take the shot you said it three or four
• 1:35:40
  times P Poise standing there because Dwayne or Caleb can beat
• 1:35:44
  These Guys. These aren't Ali Corners.
• 1:35:47
  We're going to, it's going to be pushed, but you're probably
• 1:35:49
  going to get hit as you finish your throat.
• 1:35:52
  There's no problem. Robbie's like guaranteed, he
• 1:35:58
  gets hit 12 times. Are you gonna be the other
• 1:36:02
  thing? I'm going to say something on
• 1:36:05
  this to my next Point. I've never seen a 9 when team be
• 1:36:11
  this bad in. Turnovers blueberries, turned
• 1:36:14
  the ball over 21 times this year that adds to win nine games.
• 1:36:19
  And I know what people will say is, we'll look at the look at
• 1:36:21
  the competition. You know?
• 1:36:24
  Yep, they did beat Arkansas, but they've also played some of the
• 1:36:28
  worst teams in the country and I think we talked about how low
• 1:36:33
  Tech was this year and forcing turnovers, one of the worst in
• 1:36:36
  the country to have a chance in this game Tech has to be at
• 1:36:40
  least plus 2 absolutely plus 2. And if they if they can't if
• 1:36:49
  they can't force Bennett and Bennett shown a propensity to
• 1:36:52
  throw the ball away. Like you said, you said he'll
• 1:36:55
  get Rattle and he'll make stupid decisions you'll advise prove
• 1:36:59
  ill-advised. So if they can take advantage of
• 1:37:01
  that, there's a chance. But they've got to make that in
• 1:37:04
  the last piece. And I didn't put this on here
• 1:37:06
  because I couldn't think of a third one, but you mentioned in
• 1:37:08
  t.o.p and them somehow Liberty, even when they lose, they, when
• 1:37:14
  they have the So good games they're still at EOP of 30
• 1:37:18
  minutes I think protect and after what you said when they
• 1:37:24
  get them off the field they have to figure out ways to extend
• 1:37:27
  drives and it's not been pretty, it's not text, one of the worst
• 1:37:32
  in the country at it. But if you can find a way, they
• 1:37:37
  have too many. If you know, to me, this should
• 1:37:41
  be the game. If you're Tyler bone empty, the
• 1:37:44
  clip. Don't absolutely.
• 1:37:48
  There's nothing to lose right now.
• 1:37:50
  There's nothing to lose as long as you aren't in danger in the
• 1:37:52
  players, nothing to lose. All right.
• 1:37:56
  And and you know, we talked about it a little bit at the
• 1:38:00
  very top of the show and we haven't really mentioned another
• 1:38:05
  part of this could very well be the last game of the season.
• 1:38:08
  It's true. Very well that there aren't some
• 1:38:11
  questions about whether you be able to finish their feet.
• 1:38:14
  So just put that out there. This may be it.
• 1:38:17
  So, why not put it all out there?
• 1:38:19
  Why not? It's very true.
• 1:38:23
  All right. Well Robbie, it's the fun.
• 1:38:26
  I'm right now. It's prediction time.
• 1:38:28
  You are the guest I get to lead just the way Tex played this
• 1:38:32
  year. The stuff we've mentioned at the
• 1:38:34
  top of the program, how Liberties play it on both sides
• 1:38:37
  of the ball? I do think the games competitive
• 1:38:40
  but I think is what we've seen all year with the tech defense.
• 1:38:43
  I think that third quarter comes and they're they're probably
• 1:38:47
  down 2010 2013 and like we saw against West Virginia against
• 1:38:52
  pit against NC State and it It's Georgia Tech eventually the
• 1:38:57
  defense in your defensive coach. They see it and they it's Wiley
• 1:39:03
  Coyote they get to the end and it's like And probably ready for
• 1:39:08
  your old lady and where you got them.
• 1:39:13
  All right, I'm saying like you say they're half first half,
• 1:39:19
  you're probably looking at a 1714 ball game.
• 1:39:24
  You know, I've been going to be close to that point.
• 1:39:27
  I think, Liberty pulls away the end.
• 1:39:29
  I think Tempo gets to be a little too much, just don't have
• 1:39:34
  enough Rush enough, pressure in the backfield.
• 1:39:39
  The force them to make decisions too quickly and that they put a
• 1:39:45
  couple on the board at the end after they wanted out a little
• 1:39:48
  bit. I'm gonna go 31:17 with all
• 1:39:51
  right and I did text in his he is also going Liberty.
• 1:39:55
  And I think what we all see here is he's going 27:16 and knowing
• 1:39:59
  Brian, he's probably thinking similar to us.
• 1:40:02
  It's going to be a fight in then and you mentioned it a couple
• 1:40:05
  times. Liberty's got some, the Liberty
• 1:40:06
  has depth. They have some players you can
• 1:40:08
  step in and so yeah. All right, so one more thing and
• 1:40:13
  we brought Robbie into doing a big screener and Robbie, I'll
• 1:40:17
  let you lead the way cuz what other than the tech gain.
• 1:40:20
  What games will we be watching this week?
• 1:40:22
  When Robbie kind of your second free weekend to watch football
• 1:40:27
  and not have to think about what happened on Friday night.
• 1:40:29
  What game are you watching and why bother?
• 1:40:32
  I think a lot of people are gone.
• 1:40:33
  A lot of people that listen in are going to be like what is he
• 1:40:37
  might be my big game. I want to see, I want to watch
• 1:40:41
  Wisconsin and Nebraska and I know both teams have been
• 1:40:45
  through their been through the wringer.
• 1:40:48
  This year. Both looking already into works
• 1:40:51
  of finding the next head coach. Coaches and all of those things,
• 1:40:55
  but it's the thing that I like to see of the coach, you got two
• 1:41:01
  teams, basically right now, they got your back against the wall
• 1:41:04
  and then we'll swing with everything that and Nebraska has
• 1:41:07
  been doing it longer than Wisconsin has.
• 1:41:10
  We're trying to figure out exactly, you know, whether the
• 1:41:14
  guy that they have their the interim right now is the guy
• 1:41:17
  that they need to stay with, they need to move around.
• 1:41:20
  And all of those guys that are on both of those teams, have a
• 1:41:24
  lot to fight for and they will they get the respect and they're
• 1:41:31
  going to fight through everything and the fact that
• 1:41:35
  Nebraska is the 12 and a half Point Underdog.
• 1:41:39
  I guess it seems that really hasn't you know, dominated
• 1:41:44
  anybody at any point. I I said I'll take Nebraska with
• 1:41:48
  the 12 and a half. and, The big thing is though, I think they're
• 1:41:53
  going to stay under that 39. There's going to be a big
• 1:41:58
  scoring output by either side, but while the line flavor but
• 1:42:07
  it's going to be a as ESPN reporters would say.
• 1:42:14
  It's going to be a slobberknocker, the flower,
• 1:42:16
  they're going to go at each other.
• 1:42:18
  You know, forehead down power through everything they can and
• 1:42:23
  you go see some good football out of both of them.
• 1:42:25
  All right. I'm actually going to be in the
• 1:42:28
  Big Ten as well. Completely different reason
• 1:42:31
  though. I'm taking I'm going to be
• 1:42:34
  watching Iowa, Minnesota late in the afternoon after the tech
• 1:42:37
  game because I actually want to see an under 32 and a half.
• 1:42:42
  He's hit because I honest to God.
• 1:42:44
  I think it will because Iowa is dread Offensive ly they actually
• 1:42:50
  make Tech and occasional good, which is really bad.
• 1:42:55
  But Minnesota is also really good defensively.
• 1:42:57
  And they're not the greatest offensive output.
• 1:42:59
  I honestly think they're. I want to see if that game can
• 1:43:02
  stay under 32 points and I think also be a 13-game there.
• 1:43:08
  You could be right there under. What you can see is 1716 game
• 1:43:13
  and make 33 points, and make a whole lot of people Bank.
• 1:43:15
  Oh, buddy. Matchup.
• 1:43:29
  So this is the Big Ten big screener.
• 1:43:31
  The USC UCLA Battle of l.a. UCLA.
• 1:43:35
  A one and a half Point, dog. The over-under is 73 and a half.
• 1:43:40
  Brian basically USC to winning cover and he's going to take you
• 1:43:45
  heard it. I'm going to agree with him on
• 1:43:48
  that. So on, you know, that's going to
• 1:43:51
  be a fun game. What time is it game Saturday?
• 1:43:54
  If it's the ten o'clock game I was mostly both of those teams
• 1:43:58
  on the west coast has got to be a nine eight nine, ten o'clock
• 1:44:01
  game. Well ain't I can live with an
• 1:44:04
  8:00 a.m. I can live with a 10 o'clock
• 1:44:06
  game. That's an 8:00 Cape.
• 1:44:08
  I might actually, why is it that I can't do?
• 1:44:10
  Yeah, I don't know if I can do that.
• 1:44:12
  I had to go home after school today, take a nap so I could be
• 1:44:14
  up this late. Robbie, I'm going to say this
• 1:44:19
  man. I really appreciate you taking
• 1:44:22
  the time brother to look at this tape to step in for us on a
• 1:44:27
  tough week. Goes when he told me his listen,
• 1:44:32
  we are here we are. Looking at wind to book you for
• 1:44:35
  next year, at least twice. Maybe three times.
• 1:44:39
  Maybe I'll take a break and you and you and Brian can enjoy.
• 1:44:44
  Maybe. I can go to Disney World kids.
• 1:44:59
  Look at that, it'll scare you, it'll scare you.
• 1:45:02
  I'm not too worried about it, don't have three kids, I know.
• 1:45:05
  See what will happen is your entire defensive unit want to
• 1:45:07
  go. And it'll take like 60 kids.
• 1:45:11
  Yeah yeah man. Alrighty.
• 1:45:16
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