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Episode 6 | Taylor Harrison · Age Groupers

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: So what's our intro gonna be?
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: Age groupers.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: Pew, pion, pion, pum.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: And we're not we're not like sponsored by Nike yet.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: So they don't, you know, they're not headhunting us.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm hoping, man.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, can you get it a little bit closer?
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: Can I bring it to me instead of Yeah, try it?
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Do whatever you want, man.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: If it if it breaks, I'll just fix it again.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that sounds good.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: Give you a little test there.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, sounds good.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty soft spoken, so just slap me if I've been too.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: So is he?
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm slightly.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: I know I too.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm working on it.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm working on it.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: But he has a nice bassy voice.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: Especially right now, it's kind of raspy because I'm getting over being sick like two weeks ago.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I've just been hacking up my lungs like crazy.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_02: Your voices compliment each other well, and I think on the like on the episodes I've listened to, which I think I've maybe got them all, um it's easy to tell who's who, which is Oh, good.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, good.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Me either.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: Huh.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: I know the sound of my own voice too well, so I'm you know I'm like, ugh, it's cringing the whole time I listen to me.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: I know I hate the sound of mine.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's just a thing.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: When I'm listening to it, I'm like, ah man, that was such a good line by Zach.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: I wish I could talk like that, you know?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Is that a feedback thing, like with our hearing though?
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: Something you hear your voice differently?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: I guess so.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because I sound to me, I sound completely different.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking right now, sound completely different when I hear it.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm not interested in recording it.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said, it's weird.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: All right, you ready?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's rock it, dude.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're going then.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited about the uh the opening.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's a pretty awesome sound.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Who did that?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: That was all Zach.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, the like the pew pew.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was me.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: That was pretty good.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: We sat down and turned on the recording for the first time.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, So, what do we want our intro to be?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then did that.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Well, that was easy.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Done.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: We're doing a test run, and then we're like, you know what?
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Let's post it.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's good.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, good to go.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, Taylor, thanks for coming out.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we just kind of like to start out by just asking, you know, just tell us a little bit about yourself.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you guys so much for having me.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have been married almost 15 years.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty blessed and fortunate to have duped her that long.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: So continuing to try to keep her in the dark is uh that she has really undersold herself.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: So uh we've built a really cool life together.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we have four kids.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: They are 11 all the way down to two.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_02: Those kids are super busy themselves, so we are uh chasing them around a lot.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: We recently just founded a volleyball club.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: We wanted a good space for for our kids and for other kids to be loved on and grow and be encouraged, but also be competitive and have an outlet for that in a in a safe space where we knew that they would be comfortable to do that.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: So we've uh recently embarked on that.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's been a super high learning curve, something we're not great at, but yeah, we're uh we're thrilled.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's been going really well.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_02: And you said married for 15 years?
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_02: Almost, yeah, 15 in March.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, congratulations.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: So what's this volleyball club?
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm interested.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so my oldest daughter has been playing volleyball since um it's probably been four years or so now, and we realized pretty quick that she was uh very talented, she's a really natural athlete.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_02: She's also a really big encourager, so she's kind of one of those glue kids that you can kind of throw on any team.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so we started her pretty slowly.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: We we eased into club last year, and we ran into a couple of um, you know, just growing pains.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_02: I think in the club world, it's it's more competitive, it's um it's a different environment than recreational sports in general, which it's supposed to be, and those are all natural things that happened.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: But we just realized pretty quickly we wanted um, I think one of my personality flaws is I want control.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I wanted a good space for my daughter and for you know other kids to be able to be just super safe and and comfortable and know that they can come to practice, they can come to games, they can perform however they perform poorly, great, you know, however that goes, and not be, you know, shamed or yelled at by their teammates.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the kind of environment we're trying to build and using Christian principles to do that.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Is that that's what the club's called?
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Christian principles?
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's based on uh the it's based on Christian principles called Rock Volleyball Club.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_02: Rock volleyball club.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Standing on the rock, it's from Matthew 1816.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, awesome.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: Peter is called the rock by by Jesus.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Where um where are you guys practicing right now?
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that's a good question.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: We are um tentatively working through possibly our own space.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh currently we are wherever we can be.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Across our elementary schools, middle schools.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Our goal is to make zero dollars off of it personally.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: Our our daughters pay the same club dues that everybody else does.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_02: So um, I mean, we try to keep things as cost-friendly as possible.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: We go to middle schools and elementary schools when we can, but sometimes we're we're paying them$50 an hour wherever we can.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, very cool though.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: So you said she's kind of a natural athlete?
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: My oldest daughter, yeah.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: Where does she get that from, mom or dad?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, my wife is better than me in every element of life.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_02: She's a better person.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Good answer, man.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Safe answer.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_02: It is so infinitely true.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she's a better athlete, she's a better person.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like she lights up a room.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: I know everybody should think their wife is the best, but I feel really strongly about her.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: So that's awesome.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: But the the athletic stuff probably comes from a bit of both of us.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, so would you uh you consider yourself uh an athlete?
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's your what's your uh give me your story?
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like you play sports back in the day, still play sports, I don't know.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: You seem like a pretty good runner.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: I follow you on Strava, so oof, yeah.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um decidedly mediocre runner, but um yeah, so I am letting that old athlete die hard, I think.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh, alright.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_02: I played baseball.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um as early as I can remember, my older brothers played baseball, so I was just at the field, just like that ratty, dirty kid that was you know hanging around older brothers.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um ended up playing at a D3 baseball college.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: Where at Harden Simmons University?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: My cousins went to school there.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um did nothing productive there.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't uh standout in any way.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was actually at that level, I was a very small fish in a in a very large pond.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: So after baseball kind of ended for me, I've just been trying to keep active on anything.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, I have a volleyball game tonight myself.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, nice adult co-ed volleyball, so we're trying to keep it active.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: Sweet.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_02: What position did you play?
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_02: I was a pitcher.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, cool.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, pitcher only, couldn't hit.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I couldn't do any of it.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah, that's true.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: But pitching, I admire pitchers.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's a hard gig.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it really is.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lot of pressure, yeah.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's a lot of pressure, everyone's looking at you, you get the most criticism.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's that's a tough gig.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: So best game.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: Give it to me.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: Best pitching game?
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I did throw a no-hitter in high school.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um I it wasn't as cool as it sounds, though.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: I had like 57 walks or something like that.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, you're not getting any hits, but I'll let you circle bases for free here.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was a pitcher in Little League, and I actually pitched a no-hitter back in the day, and I I like vividly remember that day.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: It was the same thing.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: I did walk a lot of guys too.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, that still counts.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'd but say it still counts.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's it's on the record.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, think about that.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: That was actually my sport back in the day, was baseball, and I just I didn't pick it up in high school, sadly, but that's probably what I should have stuck with, other than you know, being a bench warmer in football and basketball.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then kind of just giving up.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: You feel pressure to play football?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean you defin I mean, yeah, Big Spring, West Texas town, like hard to know.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Small West Texas school, yeah.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: We actually, when I was in seventh grade, we moved out to Wall, and that's all that's religion out there is to play football, small town.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I ended up joining a football team and enjoyed that.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: Played through high school and enjoyed it, but didn't have any aspirations of actually do anything with it.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just like a tackling dummy mostly, I think.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: So what is it now?
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: What do you do now to stay in shape other than co-ed volleyball and trying to compete with your wife as best athlete in the house?
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, that's no competition as that, apparently.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I'm in and out of the gym.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's something I think I've probably had, you know, half a dozen different gym memberships that I've paid for and not used thoroughly.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually do have a gym membership currently, try to go as much as I can, but yeah, it's not a not a skill of mine for sure.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I've got a freebie here, man.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's a couple, you know, there's not a lot, but anytime you want, you just come knock on the door.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: Someone's here.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you need to threaten the other dads with your strength and do it.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: I need I need I usually go out in the driveway and scream before, but you know.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Is that what I'm hearing?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what you're hearing way over there.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: I sometimes can hear Garrett over there, you know, back in his uh that is actually that has to be true.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you guys are both pretty fit.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm envious.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, what?
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm trying to get back into dad bod hard to the bone.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I do I have to ask, because you're being a little humble on the running, I think.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because you just won uh won the Rose Lizers Challenge, right?
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Was that you or was that a different Harrison?
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: That was me, yeah.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was not dogging you, man.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oof.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was a lot of late nights running in circles, yeah.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm just petty enough that that was a perfect contest for me.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_02: So whoever, whoever ran the most, I was gonna run one more.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was uh I think uh I met the guy because I always go down there, his name's Paul.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: But I saw him and Marcus running tons of loops and go up down there and see them like, man, there's nobody that's gonna beat them.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then whenever I saw your name announced, I'm like, wait, what?
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: How did this guy do it?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then yeah, I saw the late night running.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: So was this the how most amount of laps around the dog park in the room?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Red Road Trail.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: So how many laps did you do?
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: 344 laps, and it was like 0.8 miles around.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_02: So golly.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: It was horrendous.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'll never go back there again.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: So what's that that averages what 10 over 10 laps a day?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Ish?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Ish.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Something gotta be something like that, yeah.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Thereabouts.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: I was doing some uh recreational espionage too.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't posting all the runs.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that's how you did it.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's smart.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I dumped them all out on the last day.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably not in the heart of the contest, but that's hilarious.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Did you spread it out evenly or did you have some big days?
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I didn't change my training plan at all.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm I'm building up for this the the charity ultra, so um, I didn't really change my training plan.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: I just did all of my miles there.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: The charity, yeah.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: You kind of started this thing, right?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Is that is that how I understood it?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you certainly invited the the least interesting person of the group of three of us that really started us.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I disagree because I don't know the other two guys.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, one of one.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's like easy to be the best when you're the only one.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, so I've been following Charity Water, the the charity that we support for probably 15 years.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, cool.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: So this was around the time of I Am Second.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you guys remember that that series with Josh Hamilton and a lot of different athletes.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um I came across the CEO of Charity Water and um his story of you know, he was just living a lifestyle he wasn't proud of, and then he dedicated his life over to service of others.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I was just super impressed by by him and his story.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I started digging into the charity itself, and they are 100% transparent.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: They post all of their financial accounting stuff.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's super visible.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: You can go click into as granular as you want.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_02: So they are a very impressive organization, they're also healthy, so they're not, you know, they're not gonna disappear overnight.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're helping people and they can do that sustainably.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: So been really impressed with them.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I have had a heart for wanting to go serve in that way, but you know, four kids, I'm not sure go to Africa on a mission trip or anything like that right now.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: So wanted to be able to be involved in service in that way, and uh this was the way we thought we could do it.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: So kind of I think I bullied my brother into it.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: My friend is kind of a yes man, so I just I knew he was on board.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: But you gotta have you gotta everybody has one, right?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: My buddy, uh he was an easy yes, you know, it's just a hey, I'd I'd like to do something pretty outlandish here.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: So are you in?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: And who are these guys?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so my best friend Blake McCarthy is one of the other we call ourselves the founders.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's our name of our group chat.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: He's a freaking nature athlete, though.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: He's in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu currently, you know, and he's he's a spider monkey.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want that dude crawling on your back.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_02: So and then my brother, he's um um he's 10 years older than I am, and he just qualified for Boston last year.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: He's just a professional who's your brother, Justin Harrison.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: Justin Harrison, okay.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: I get the two of you mixed up all the time, I'm pretty sure.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's in the Odessa area.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_02: He's a he's the best runner I know.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: He can just go deep into the pain cave and live there.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Killer cyclist too, right?
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he can do both.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think I I think I follow him on Strava too.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the cycling gene, you know, my dad was I guess you call him a professional cyclist.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he was sponsored, he's he's been getting stuff thrown at him for a long time, so that gene runs strong, and Justin for sure.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do it though.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's crazy.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: I like I don't have a road bike yet, but cycling's a it's a different beast.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: You need to get you one.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not any good at it, but I love to do it.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think you're you're pretty good.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm okay.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: He's a pretty good cyclist.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm okay.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um what uh what had you compelled to to do mission work in Africa?
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Does that go back to like church roots?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Did you do any missionary work um you know when you were younger, like youth group kind of stuff, or is that just something that's more recently drawn your attention?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it it comes through my faith.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I I think I found Africa specifically kind of in my heart in college.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I w I forget which course I was in.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: I went to a private university, you know, a lot of Bible classes and and religion classes, and a professor was talking through just how fortunate we are to be born where you were born.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's something you didn't control.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh to have the parents that you have, that's something you didn't control, to have the intelligence that you have, you know, just on and on the list of things that you were blessed by that you had nothing to do with, and uh other people uh didn't get all those check boxes, you know.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: So for us to be able to sit comfortably here and you know have a conversation and have access to clean water and um you know just air conditioning, all these things that we we don't think about, we flip the switch and the light comes on.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's it feels meaningful to me to be aware of those things, to be aware of the ways that we're blessed.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I try to um I try to use leverage my talents, my interests to pour that back out as much as I can.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: So this is the the simplest way I know how is just to suffer and go outside and run in circles.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what an amazing cause and and uh something to suffer for.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I was looking at the the GoFundMe and it I if I look correctly, it looked like it was pretty close to reaching its goal.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know if that's is that the case?
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh our goal is 10,000.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think we were around six the last time I looked at the case.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's pretty close though.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: You guys are making your way.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: How do you um how do you guys uh are you guys gonna like try to like do any sort of live streaming or how how can you kind of watch the watch the event when you guys do it?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: When is it?
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: It is November 12th.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: We'll kick off at 5 a.m.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: which I was vehemently opposed to.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not a morning guy, but I'll be there.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um so we will most likely be live streaming on Facebook.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: We also have a video team that's gonna go with us and try to document that.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's way outside of any of our skill sets.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: We've kind of leave the experts.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Find that out to somebody talented.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we're excited to have them along with us this time.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's very cool.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: And how is there is there like multiple teams or how's it?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: There are.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: Last year was just the three of us.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: We kind of ran to nowhere.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh this year we have a much better plan, and uh there are four teams of four runners, so 16 individuals all together.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: So, was last year the first year you guys kicked it, kicked off y'all's group to do it?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, last year was the the inaugural.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: It was a beating.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah we did everything wrong that you could possibly do, so we learned a lot of lessons.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: So tell us a little bit about that journey.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, um, first we didn't notify any uh law enforcement law.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we got stopped a few times.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we also got stopped by a couple of uh concerned landowners in that area.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, yeah.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Middle of the night, guy running by with the flashlights, not uh not a good look.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I had my hands up more than I expected that night.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't practice any of that.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't practice the uh, hey, that's the police.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_02: What do we do now?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um actually funny, we got pulled over just outside of Brady by the sheriff, I believe.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I was I had just finished my run and I was changing, and you know, I was trying to pull my new shorts up and started cramping, just unbearable cramping.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: I was like moaning slash yelling, and I'm in this creepy, like big box van, and this sheriff's walking up, like, what is wrong with this guy?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: So Blake was able to kind of explain to her what was going on with me at the time.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: We're not murdering him, he's murdering himself.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: We actually don't need any help with that, the suffering over here.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she actually said, Yeah, some people were worried about y'all.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: They should be.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: They should be.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: We have no idea what we're doing.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: No plan.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Was she cool about it?
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: She was, yeah.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: She actually ended up donating.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: We have a picture with her.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: She was awesome.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's very cool.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's great.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: Super cool sheriff in uh McCullough County, I think.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: So shout out to them.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: How uh how far did you guys did you guys go to Round Rock last year, or what's what was the what was the plan last year?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Or did you just guys just go, let's just see how far we can go?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Our plan was to finish pretty near my father-in-law's house in Marble Falls.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like a convenient hey, I know somebody over there, and maybe crash on his couch after we die.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: So uh we didn't really have like a a cool destination, but we didn't make it anyway.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we changed this year to actually have a nice resort, and uh, we're gonna go to Kalahari Resort in Round Rock.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: And and recover there, like with the family, or what?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: What's the plan there?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the families will be there.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be awesome.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was wondering because it said San Angelo to Calahari.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, they got that's the celebration spot.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was definitely calculated.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's smart.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and just ruin their hot tubs, I think.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: You guys might be uh too uh sort of enjoy it, you know.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that that's true.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of stairs there.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how that's gonna go.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Good luck, man.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh are you uh so you guys, it's it's teams of four, and so everyone does about 50-ish miles.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have to bang out the 50 miles at once?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do like a little bit at a time?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how's it or uh is a reveal revealing a strategy?
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you don't yeah, Renee didn't give away any of your secrets.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: So there weren't supposed to be any secrets.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: I did listen to that episode with Renee.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know he was playing some of the things.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's got some tweets.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, are you guys not on the same team?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're not, no.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I just assumed you were.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Man.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's why he didn't want to reveal it, because he knew you were coming.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: I guess Renee was uh plotting something.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's plotting something dangerous, I'll tell you that.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: He actually already left.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: That was a secret.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he started, he's there.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna use a helicopter.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so our our design is for each team member to run five miles.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I run five, hand off to one of my teammates, they run five, and so on.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Does it matter how you do it?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Can any team like do whatever the heck they want?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: Or TBD, which is actually one of our team names.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um perfect.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: So I I think our design was to have it by be five miles each because we tried ten mile segments last year, and we think that was part of our problem.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: 10 miles is a lot to recover from in a short amount of time.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know, my instinct is to let them let them try.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've told you this doesn't work, but if you want to try it, you're welcome to to take a run at it.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think about the uh it's it's almost like a like a relay backyard ultra button without the backyard.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you just kind of that's cool.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Point to point.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: So you definitely have to bring everything with you.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: So someone you guys are, I assume like everyone's taking like some sort of van or vehicle, and you just kind of follow along the runner as as you go.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Correct.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: We had my dad's uh, he had like a big one of those big Mercedes like mom vans.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: So we took that you didn't like my transit out there?
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Similar, yeah.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: Same same idea.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um and with three of us, it was cramped last year.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: We had like a big inflatable mattress in the back.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that was that was tight.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: So we splurged a little bit this year.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: We're going with an RV.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure what the other teams are doing.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Part of the part of the draw for me or part of something that's mandatory for me with this project is the runners cover their own costs.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: So we are raising money for other people, we are not making a dollar at all.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: So so uh we chose an R V.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_02: We're spinning that out of our pockets.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: If somebody wants to go in the bed of a jalopy, that's that's up to them.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's very cool.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um so where where do people find out more about this?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: Sure, yeah.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: So we have a proper website.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: A friend of mine put that together for us, runningforwater.org.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's F O R Running for Water.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: I also have a Facebook page, but um, that is again not not within.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: My skill set to be a super marketing guy.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: So those are the two things we've been capable of so far.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh that's cool.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think we uh Renee Renee guessed at the website.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: He did get it right.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: So that was good.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: Step one, and then we we shared it out a little bit, but definitely want to share it out some more, hopefully get you guys some more support and get some donations for water.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you're you're doing the running for water, you have four kids, you're starting a volleyball club, other things, I'm sure.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: You're you have a training schedule, you won a uh basically an endurance competition last month.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: How do you manage all this?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm super fortunate to have a really awesome spouse, is the answer to that.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um she's not like some just supportive person.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: She has her own life, she has her own responsibilities, she has her own um accomplishments and interests, and my running um we make that fit in.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not something that I unilaterally just go do, and she kind of cheers from me for me from the sidelines.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: She's she's part of that.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: So um that's we make it work, we make it fit in, and a lot of that is just night miles.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I go after she goes to sleep, and that's that's when I'm running, is middle of the night.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I was gonna ask.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Is it early morning thing, late night things here at Night Runner?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Lots of headlamp time.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: Or I don't like a headlamp though.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know how you guys do that with that heat on your forehead.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: Just a man of the dark.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: No, I've got a little uh belt clip.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, yes.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: A waistlight, yeah.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna ask.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I had like a chest harness thing at one point, but that was hot on my chest too.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how you guys do it with the heat.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't like I'm if you've heard some of the episodes, I forgot mine the first time I went and run with him, and so I just I got in trouble.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_02: So you got in trouble, yeah.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he yelled at me, dude.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's a story worth telling.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: I can't.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: We're painting uh an inaccurate picture here.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: If we were if we were able to do like you know different rating than PG 13, I would tell you the full story, but it's not not rated for that, so I can't.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was concerned for your safety.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you that's one way to put it.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_02: Are you throwing rocks at him or what?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: This sounds like some some violence there should have.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: I will say I hit the ground.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll say that.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was rough fun on the trail.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so lots of night miles, and then do you keep to a pretty rigid training schedule?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Or is it just kind of I'm about to go run and you just kind of decide how far you want to go or how long you want to go?
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um I definitely have a plan.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: I've been using Chat GPT a lot.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's my jam.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's how I put my my plans together.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's my trainer, yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I I plug in all the information from my previous runs, and it kind of bullies me into what I'm supposed to do next or not do.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: So forces rest days, things like that.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_02: But I do have a plan.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, sometimes I'm exhausted.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like yesterday we had a volleyball tournament all day long, and I I cut my run short a little bit, just my legs are tired.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, just make those adjustments.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: It is what it is, yeah.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Use a Garmin, Koros, what do you got there?
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Apple Watch?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: Apple Watch, yeah.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: The like the ugly stepchild of running watches.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's what my wife uses and shoot, hers is awesome.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't but I just I don't understand the hate.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't use one, but like who cares?
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like use what you want, it works.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: I that's what I use when I first started.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but my my wife loves hers, but she has the ultra or whatever, the cool new one.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: The battery lasts a little longer.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that's part of the problem before this recent ultra is you couldn't run.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I switched over to a Koros because I was like, there's no way I'm running a 50k and it not going on Strava.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like there was no way in heck.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't count.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't count if we can't get our kudos.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, fun fact.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know about Garmin, but Apple Health, you can you can actually tie in Apple Health with Chat GBT, it's a plug-in.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: Also Koros.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: So like if you are, if you do use Chat GBT to help you train, it can look at your previous runs and you know collect all that data to help you out.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty cool.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Life hack, nice.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, it's it's so cool.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's cool for me to be like, all right, so where are we at this week?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, well, let's go recap last week.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you did this, this, this.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, hey, I see you missed this run or whatever, you know.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty cool.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Do you put your nutrition in there?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: I do it all.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I get so we can get on a whole different subject of me and Chad GBT, but yeah, I gave it, I gave it the keys to the kingdom, man.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody out there, well, many of people out there probably know exactly who I am, are me now.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: They're running their own Age Roopers podcast as me somewhere.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: The Lanny agent.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Much more successful, yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's not as good.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of nutrition, what's your go-to fuel?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: Or how do you how do you do that?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: What do you like to what do you like to eat?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think uh I've figured that out recently.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_02: My first marathon, I carried a giant smart water bottle, and I ran 26 miles with like however many ounces that is.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: That was a horrible idea.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: So didn't eat anything?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't eat a thing, didn't drink anything, just drank it.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: And smart water is supposed to be like bad for you, isn't it?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's infinitely heavy.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: The bottle is.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: I know that.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_02: It was bad for you that day.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: I was working out my biceps more than my legs.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: You finish the marathon with a huge red arm, like swole, yeah.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: No, no food for a marathon is gnarly.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's incredible, dude.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was uh not a great plan.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: You know, my brother, uh, this is kind of our our running background.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's been about 10 years now.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: I had finished baseball and had this competitive void.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: He was trying to quit smoking and needed something.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he needed an outlet.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, he says he ran away from his cravings.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's how he phrases it.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: Still still running away from them?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he's done with the cravings.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's running away from other things now, maybe.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: But um, so we'd we'd started my plan was a couch to 5k.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that was like, oh, three miles.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: It seemed so far at the time to run three miles, and he just sent it.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he's like, Oh, we're gonna sign up for a marathon together.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I guess we're doing that now.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: So a couple months later, we'd signed up for this marathon.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'd been training, and I'm looking at his Strava, I'm like, dude, are you training?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, are you gonna run?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: You signed up, you paid, I don't know, a couple hundred bucks to do this marathon and not so much on the training.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_02: And he drove all night from Odessa to San Antonio and met me and ran a marathon on zero training.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Did he win?
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Did he beat you?
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: No, yeah, he completely blew up his Achilles.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was like limited around.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: Man, he took so long to finish.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: And he's he's fast, and he's a really talented runner.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, he I will forever have scoreboard on him.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'll never sign up for a marathon with him again.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: But you but you got the first one.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: Got the first one one and oh.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, that's amazing.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we we definitely try to do things the dumb way.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's a better way to do it, man.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, why why train for something and then knock it out of the park?
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a cool story, right?
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: You can't good on age groups.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, yeah, dude, I trained perfect and I hit my negative splits, and it was great.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's often the more fun way, sometimes the more interesting way.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: You left definitely probably learn more that way.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: For better or for worse.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the hard way, but yeah.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Going back to your nutrition though, I do think I have the answer.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_02: So tortilla, paint some peanut butter on there and then sprinkle some chocolate chips over it.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's got kind of the right mix of I could see the peanut butter.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure about the chocolate chips and tortilla.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: I may I could do that.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it just makes it portable.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: You just whatever you can get in the body, huh?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've I've been rocking that for a long time now.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: So do you roll it up or make it more like a sandwich?
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like fold it up?
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_02: Roll it up.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Roll it up.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Tortilla roll-up of peanut butter.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: You can call it a burrito then?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Is that like a hot dog is a sandwich kind of a question?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Hot dogs I feel like are hot dogs.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: A peanut butter, taquito.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_01: If the bun rips in half, then sure, maybe it turns into a sandwich, I guess.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: If it separates on that backside, yeah.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, taquito sounds more accurate.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, taquito.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Tequito is gotta be in like a corn tortilla, though.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Does it?
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know all these rules.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: I just like peanut butter.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's been the nutrition plan for a while though.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh use tailwind during runs pretty exclusively.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's supposed to be standalone.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know you need to eat a little bit, but that's it's been great for my training.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: I tail tailwind makes like a carb mix now.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes or no?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I crazy?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: They just electrolyte.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, they do.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: They do carbs?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: They do all kinds of stuff, yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: They're kind of like scratch, they have a little bit of everything.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um how did you uh I got how did you figure out?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you sounds like you'd like peanut butter, but how did you figure out let me slap peanut butter and chocolate chips inside a tortilla?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was um That's a combination.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just that's a weird one for sure.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: I stumbled across it through I was actually doing like a TikTok series where I was filming myself.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Don't look that up, that's really bad.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm digging for that.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's horrendous.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can't be any worse than anything I've done.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: So but uh posted something about you know, I I think it was like maybe a month before running water last year, and I had no clue what I was gonna eat.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so I just asked like the world.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: I somebody sent me a sign, and that that really spoke to me.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, nice.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'll never change it.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Love that.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm big.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it is.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: I thought we we talked about this last time with Renee, but uh man, bacon, cheese, quesadilla, they're in an ultra is just gosh, it's so good.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Man, I mean I can't like hammer them, but like a couple at a time when you're feeling a little low will just bring you back to life.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still gonna have to take your word on that.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot picture being 20 miles into something and eating melted cheese.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I don't know.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly the face I made.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Man, I don't know.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: And see, when I was training, when I first started training, I would just hammer like I was trying to because I have my stomach, I couldn't get it you know, right.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: You have to like train your stomach, do that.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: I would just hammer like a piece of pizza and then go for a run.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just forgot to hold that down.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it worked.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's that is true stomach conditioning.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: But you're telling me, so you're telling me talking about melted cheese, but peanut butter and chocolate chip in a tortilla?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, same thing.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: That sounds way more appealing, I gotta be honest.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_02: You trail guys are different though.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I've messed around with trails a little bit.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: I've done one 50k, but I think during the 50k was when I came around a corner and some guy was eating spaghetti and drinking a Coke.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: Water would be like.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's probably that's definitely rotty.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that sounds about right.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: Spaghetti out of a Ziploc bag, dude.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'll see people do that.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: Take it out of your pack and just eating it.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was so awesome.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: I was very confused and I felt afraid.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_02: You should have been.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: You see a guy like that, you should run for sure.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that guy probably passed me pretty easily later.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: So speaking of that, besides this um running water, what's what do you have anything else planned or or anything that you want to do?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm at kind of a point in my running where I've I've built up a lot of of mileage base, so I think I probably should take a run at some PRs, but I haven't really I was pretty disappointed in my marathon PR, so I could probably take a run at that at some point.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: But it's hard to kind of buck up and pay for the the marathons now, so maybe I'll do a backyard one and just call it good.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, do that.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Set it up.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: You could be like uh Sarah that we had on a few weeks ago and set up your own.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, set up your own half marathon or whatever and just get after it.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was really cool.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was the coolest story I've ever heard.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's still think that's so cool.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I have as many friends as she does.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds like or as good at friends, I don't know.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, you're you are friends with Renee, so it you can kind of questionable for sure.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: He could show up.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: He would he would show up for sure.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Just him and I out there.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll take my camera, I'll video you guys.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: Cool.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: Got a plan.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's uh I'm at that point where I don't really have a strong desire to do any new distances or anything.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: You 100k guys are nuts.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's all day.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll get there one day.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not quite there yet.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm chasing the hundred miler.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's my yeah, that's my that was my goal this year.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was trying to get one, got injured, finally kind of getting over the injury, and hopefully next year will be my year.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'll punch that ticket.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Get it.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Excited.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: Usually get like belt buckles and stuff, cool stuff, right?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I do it for the pain and suffering for sure.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, nothing.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I'm like your brother, I don't know what I'm running from yet, but hopefully it'll come to me.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully it doesn't catch up to you.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whatever it's definitely not catching me, I'll tell you that.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think Oab is wrapping up today.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_02: Those guys are.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, there was a huge storm though.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was a huge storm and it kind of got like flash flooding.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I'm a big Andy Glaze fan, so of watching his stuff, and they're like out there and just so much just water just pouring everywhere.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: Do they have to cross that at some point?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think they paused and then but it's back on, like he's he's going through it.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: But there's like mudslide looking water just fishing through there.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I saw he posted a video next to like a raging river.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't I don't know if I'd be that close to it.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I I'm I'm that I'm that level of crazy where I'd be like, ah, okay, we could push through it.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: That sounds like a good headline.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: Man thought he could push through it.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_02: Died doing what he loved.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Damn his last words, yeah.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of last words, uh, I think we're I think we're down down to the wire.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: This is where we try to cut it, you know, that way we like nobody like messages us and says, Hey, thank you so much.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like that was the best night of sleep I've ever had.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: You guys put me to sleep.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, great.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so you're welcome.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we we try to we try to put you on the spot a little bit.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um end it on a high note or a low note, depending on how you say.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: But uh what's uh words of encouragement, man?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you you've you know you've you're putting on this this uh this huge event.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I mean shoot, you've got you've gotten a decent following from the first time you did it.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um and uh Zach's talking about the dad life.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: You uh you doing you running, and uh what we try to do here is we try to encourage people who don't really know like where to start or how to start, you know, going from couch to whatever hard thing it is they're trying to get to.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what would you say for somebody that's sitting on the couch right now that's looking for that that spark to do something, do their hard thing?
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I think my first run when I decided I was gonna make running a thing, I set out to run two miles and I ran a quarter mile and I walked home and get defeated.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: That was horrible.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_02: I never want to do that again.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_02: So it may not start you know the way that you hope and the way that you know you expect.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: That old athlete kind of dies hard on a lot of us, but I just I had a good partner, you know.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_02: My brother was was kind of on the other side and encouraging slash bullying me, which sometimes that's needed in equal measure.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: So that was helpful.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I think just I mean, having personal goals doesn't have to live, I guess, against being a good husband and a good father.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Those things can exist together.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I think just making that work with your life and leveraging the time that you have and the interest that you have to make that work is has been the secret for me.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: So that's that's what I've got is just trying to make that that fit into our in our lives, and it's working okay so far.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if it gets any better than that.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: So well, thank you, Taylor.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you guys for having me.