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Chuck & Buck 6-2 Hour 2: Headlines and Hugh Millen, ABC's of the Mariners and this trade season could be huge! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Getting someone mentioned going to this offense to be the
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Speaker 1: secret high five right time sevent eight home run judge.
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Speaker 2: Number Peter's TV on the call last night, Josh Naylor
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Speaker 2: tying the game up at two with that home run
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Speaker 2: and then mysteriously.
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Speaker 1: Left the game with a uh an injury, which we
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Speaker 1: didn't get an update on until after the game was over.
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Speaker 1: Turns out he had a backspasm while swinging. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that back did a hero U there in that moment,
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Speaker 1: and so he had to come out of the game
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners still end up pulling it off three
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Speaker 1: to two in ten innings, call Young with the game
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Speaker 1: winning RBI. In extras it is just a backspasm, that's
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Speaker 1: how they are positioning it. So I think there's a
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Speaker 1: good chance with treatment, we could see Josh Naylor back
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Speaker 1: in the lineup tonight. But then again, I think there's
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Speaker 1: a good chance that he won't be in the lineup tonight.
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Speaker 1: We shall see. Logan Gilbert will get the start tonight
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Speaker 1: for the MS at six forty against the Mets. They
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Speaker 1: will counter with young Jonah Tong Tong to Tong Tong Tong.
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Speaker 3: That's gonna be great all night.
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Speaker 1: In my head Yeah, six forty first pitch as the
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Speaker 1: Mariners look to make it eight straight wins. They are
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Speaker 1: on a bit of a roll right now. Let's keep
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Speaker 1: it going. Let's take a look at your other headlines.
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Speaker 1: Chill the big story, We'll get to that in a moment.
1:47
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup playoffs start tonight. It'll be Las Vegas versus Carolina,
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Speaker 1: Game number one taking place this evening. The NBA Finals
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Speaker 1: won't start until Wednesday. That will be the Knicks at
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Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs. Go Mitch Johnson, Go Spurs. Melinda
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Speaker 1: French Gates joins one roof as a big time investor
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Speaker 1: in both their efforts to lure the Sonics back here
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Speaker 1: to Seattle. And of course I'm sure she's going to
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Speaker 1: be a part of the Kraken ownership group as well.
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Speaker 1: So that was big news. We'll talk to Chris Daniels
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Speaker 1: about that today at nine point thirty. Texas Tech had
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Speaker 1: an interesting day Yesterday. Their quarterback Brendan Soorsby had a
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Speaker 1: two hour hearing to determine whether or not, as a
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Speaker 1: gambling degenerate he will be allowed to play football this
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Speaker 1: year for the Red Raiders, or if he has in
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Speaker 1: fact crossed the line by just being too gambling at
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech or prior to arriving at Texas Tech. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: their softball team nothing but celebratory as they won two
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Speaker 1: games against Alabama yesterday and the final four they had
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Speaker 1: to win them both and they make it to the
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Speaker 1: finals to take on Texas starting on Wednesday. That will
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Speaker 1: be a three game series. Speaking of series, the one
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Speaker 1: series continues today here on Chuck and Buck. Rob Stayton's
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Speaker 1: going to join us. He'll break down one Seahawk player
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Speaker 1: for one entire interview at eight o'clock. We'll probably also
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Speaker 1: talk to him about the trades that were swung yesterday
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Speaker 1: in the NFL aj Brown to the New England Patriots
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Speaker 1: for a first round pick and a fifth round pick.
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Speaker 1: And the Biggie Miles Garrett has been traded to the
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams from the Cleveland Browns for young defensive
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Speaker 1: end Chaired Verse, a first round pick, a second round pick,
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Speaker 1: and a third round pick in the next to three
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Speaker 1: INFL drafts. And so with that, we had to bring
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Speaker 1: in the big guns today to talk about this monster
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Speaker 1: of a story. Joining us now is our QB one.
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millan is with us. Good morning, sir, what's happening gang,
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Speaker 1: Good to be with you, Great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: What was your reaction to that deal yesterday?
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Speaker 4: Well, it evolved a little bit over the day, because
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Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to know what they gave up,
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Speaker 4: and and you know, I have somewhat a fuzzy vision
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Speaker 4: of how players at the age of thirty, at that
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Speaker 4: position even can have a drop off, and and I've
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Speaker 4: got some numbers that can bring more focus into that point.
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Speaker 4: But then, as I, you know, endeavored to sit down
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Speaker 4: and say, okay, I gotta do a lot of tape
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Speaker 4: study on Miles Garrett, and I'm going to do a
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Speaker 4: fair amount on Jared Versu as well, just to see
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Speaker 4: what the Rams traded for. Essentially, when we're talking about
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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six year and I, you know, I thought, well, hey,
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Speaker 4: we don't know for sure that the twenty twenty six
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Speaker 4: that you know, certainly beyond twenty twenty six, you could
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Speaker 4: say this is good for the Seahawks. There's an argument
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Speaker 4: to be made there. For twenty twenty six, I thought
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Speaker 4: it was a little bit more in question. Well, then
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Speaker 4: the more I spent watching the tape. It's very hard
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Speaker 4: for me to come forth with the argument that the
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Speaker 4: aren't better in twenty twenty six. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 4: just to put this in perspective there now, Miles Garrett
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Speaker 4: turned thirty late December, and so he was twenty nine
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Speaker 4: most of the year. But the NFL just to have
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Speaker 4: apples at apples the way they tabulate that it's what's
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Speaker 4: your birthday on or your agent at the December thirty first.
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Speaker 4: So here's the four guys that the top sack achievers
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Speaker 4: aged thirty or under in the history of the NFL.
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Speaker 4: There's only four over one hundred. Notice how how these
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Speaker 4: first three are clumped together.
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Speaker 1: TJ.
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Speaker 4: Watt at one hundred and one, he's number four, Jared
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Speaker 4: Allen he's number three at one hundred and five, and
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Speaker 4: Reggie White at one hundred and eight, who's number two.
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Speaker 4: Number one is Miles Garrett at one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 4: four and a half. So and the gap between one
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Speaker 4: and two, the gap between Miles Garrett and Reggie White
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Speaker 4: is greater than the gap between second and twelfth on
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Speaker 4: the all time list. So we're talking about a guy
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Speaker 4: who is in Canton it's not in pencil, it's not
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Speaker 4: in pen it's already been emblazoned in brass. And he
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Speaker 4: doesn't have to worry about losing his hair because his
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Speaker 4: bust has already been made. He's in Canton.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no question about it. A phenomenal football player,
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Speaker 1: there's no question on that front. And so how much
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Speaker 1: better does he does one guy? I mean, you are
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Speaker 1: already good at that position. How much better does Miles
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Speaker 1: Garrett then make the rams?
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Speaker 4: Well, I compared him to Jared Verse, and really there's
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Speaker 4: no comparison. We're talking about a class of player that
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Speaker 4: I mean, if you think the great defense, the edge
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Speaker 4: players of all time, you want to say Lawrence Taylor,
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Speaker 4: Reggie White, Bruce Smith, whatever, whatever league you can put,
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Speaker 4: he's in every league. So then you throw on the
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Speaker 4: tape and you look at Jared Vers, who's a very
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Speaker 4: good player, I mean a Pro Bowl ish level player,
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Speaker 4: but he can't compete with that class of player. I mean,
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Speaker 4: if you look at Miles Garrett just watching the tape,
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Speaker 4: here's the guy that the first thing you noticed before
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Speaker 4: the balls even snapped is his frame six to four
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Speaker 4: in a quarter, which is a fifty eighth percentile on height,
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Speaker 4: but his arm length is ninety fourth percentile. In fact,
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Speaker 4: out a two hundred and three defensive ends who had
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Speaker 4: a sack or more last year, he had the tenth
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Speaker 4: longest arms. So the old saying low man wins. That's great.
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Speaker 4: We say, well, you want tall guys. You want tall
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Speaker 4: guys because you generally want the correlation of the height
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Speaker 4: to arm length. But he has the arm length, his strength,
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Speaker 4: his forty one in vertical. I had to I had
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Speaker 4: to say, there's no way he jumped forty one.
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Speaker 1: It's no way.
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Speaker 4: I had to. I had to check like four sources
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Speaker 4: before I had come on to the radio with this.
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Speaker 4: It's the highest ever for any player ever at two
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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy pounds more and he was two seventy two.
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Speaker 4: You say, well, you don't really jump much in on
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Speaker 4: the field. That's not the point. The point is is
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Speaker 4: is the power which was defined to me when I
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Speaker 4: was playing in the in the weight rooms, his strength
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Speaker 4: over time, his power, and then that shows up on
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Speaker 4: field is how twitchy and how powerful. And he had
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Speaker 4: thirty three reps on the on the bench ninety fifth
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Speaker 4: percent of so the strength, the frame, he's thick, tall enough,
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Speaker 4: but then has leveraged long arms I mean like and
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Speaker 4: his four six four forty times the seventh best ever
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Speaker 4: for anybody over two seventy. So, so the athletic profile
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Speaker 4: is there. And then and then stats. I mentioned what
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Speaker 4: he's done in his career, but last year UH twenty
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Speaker 4: three sacks obviously a record setting number one Havoc plays.
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Speaker 4: This is an NFL stat that got off of their
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Speaker 4: portal that is defined as one of five things. Tackles
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Speaker 4: for lost force, fumbels, interceptions, pass breakups, are sacked. He's
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Speaker 4: number one in the entire league at any position in
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Speaker 4: Havoc plays. Hits on a quarterback number two, pressures number four.
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Speaker 4: Now he's a durable guy. Played a lot of snaps,
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Speaker 4: so his pressure percentage at seventeen and a half percent,
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Speaker 4: that's number thirty three in the league.
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Speaker 5: But that is.
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Speaker 4: Offset by this stat. The double team that is defined
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Speaker 4: the NFL says point four seconds or more engaged by
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Speaker 4: two or more blockers. He had one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 4: six rushes where he was double team. That's the most
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Speaker 4: since twenty eighteen. So yeah, really dominant and when you
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Speaker 4: look at verse, he almost looks like a JV player
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Speaker 4: compared to Miles Garrett when you throw on the end
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Speaker 4: zone copy, which is how lineman study the tape, the
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Speaker 4: game tape. I'm looking at the same stuff the Seahawks
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Speaker 4: and the Rams and the Browns are looking at, and
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Speaker 4: you just see, you know, just an entirely different cut
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Speaker 4: of stake.
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Speaker 1: Wow. QB one Hugh Millan is with us here to
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Speaker 1: talk about the Miles Garrett trade yesterday sent shockwaves throughout
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Speaker 1: the National Football League and of course here where we're
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Speaker 1: World champs in Seattle. How are we going to contend
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Speaker 1: with this new foe. Charles Cross is pretty good, but
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Speaker 1: is he good enough? Are we going to have to
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Speaker 1: prepare double teams for Miles Garrett twice this season, maybe
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Speaker 1: three times this season? Or do you think that Charles
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Speaker 1: Cross or any left tackle can hold their own against
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Speaker 1: this beast?
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Speaker 4: Well, you got to have a plan, certainly, and you
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Speaker 4: know you're gonna, you know, turn the protection half slider turn,
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Speaker 4: which means that you generally want the sen He's a
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Speaker 4: right end, by the way, I think he was number
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Speaker 4: one and plays off the right end and versus was
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Speaker 4: a right end, So that's a swap of the same position.
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Speaker 4: He doesn't always play it right end, but he has
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Speaker 4: the highest percentage of playing at right end. So if
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Speaker 4: if the Rams are only in a four man rush,
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Speaker 4: you would want the center to slide to the left
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Speaker 4: and maybe depending on the front, the center can get
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Speaker 4: the next guy in and then Gray's abel can go
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Speaker 4: out and help and and you can get a double team,
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Speaker 4: or you can you can have a tight end. Obviously
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Speaker 4: you can keep a tight end in well that that's
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Speaker 4: gonna that's gonna hinder you against zone coverages because the
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Speaker 4: tight end who was was supposed to it. If you're
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Speaker 4: not the primary at least he's supposed to be in
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Speaker 4: the pattern to influence zone defenders to that side, you're
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Speaker 4: gonna lose that.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: You know, you can chip running backs and what have you,
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Speaker 4: but sometimes depending on the capability of the chip or
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Speaker 4: sometimes that messes up the tackle more and gets gets
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Speaker 4: him off balance or they collide into each other. So
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Speaker 4: there's there's there's no one hardened, agreed upon way to
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Speaker 4: double team, but you're gonna do You're going to have
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Speaker 4: a plan to do it. And if Cross can't hold up,
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Speaker 4: you can't just say, well, you know, we're going to
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Speaker 4: shut down the office today, you still got to function.
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Speaker 1: Do the Seahawks have to make some sort of counter
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Speaker 1: move to this that you the Rams just got better yesterday,
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Speaker 1: so now it's on John Schneider to find a player
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Speaker 1: that can counteract that. Or do they just go with, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we're in a great position, young team coming off a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We're just going to count on improving and
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Speaker 1: just doing it the right way the rest of the time.
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Speaker 4: Well, I kind of put that question into two categories
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Speaker 4: of answers. I don't think that you do anything to
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks offense. Uh, you know, there's no offensive per
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Speaker 4: se to specifically deal with Miles Garrett. You're not going
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Speaker 4: to replace Charles Cross, right, You're you know you know.
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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think you're gonna go out and
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Speaker 4: get some kind of elite blocking tight end that you say, well,
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Speaker 4: you know, we're going to help Charles Cross with him,
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Speaker 4: and certainly there's no tight end the league that can
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Speaker 4: handle him. So so I don't I don't think in
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Speaker 4: that regard. I think I think you're probably asking the
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Speaker 4: broader question, Hey, do the Seahawks make some more impact acquisition,
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Speaker 4: perhaps on the defense, not necessarily to contend with Miles Garrett. Uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, directly, but maybe but just an indirect response
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Speaker 4: to make the team better. Uh that's fine. I mean
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Speaker 4: I think you can categorize it. Look the the the
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Speaker 4: Rams are going pot committed on this, right, I mean,
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Speaker 4: they are playing the short game and it's logical for
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Speaker 4: them for a couple of reason. Number one and most importantly,
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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. And not only was the MV, he the MVP.
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Speaker 4: In my tape study of Matthew Stafford, I thought he
13:43
Speaker 4: was an MVP that you only kind of see that
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Speaker 4: performance every three, four or five years. That wasn't just
13:51
Speaker 4: you know, uh oh yeah, he's the best this year.
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Speaker 4: That was the best performance I've seen. If you had
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Speaker 4: a five year MVP, he was the MVP based on that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he was that good in my opinion. So
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Speaker 4: now his health has been in question. He didn't throw
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Speaker 4: all through August, So I don't know what he needs
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Speaker 4: to come forward and help the rest of humanity. How
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Speaker 4: he solved that dog one back problem, because for him
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Speaker 4: to play at that level after having not been able
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Speaker 4: to essentially move back in August is quite an accomplishment
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Speaker 4: by somebody. But you know, so you said they acquired
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Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie. They obviously with this Miles Garrett, they're all in.
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Speaker 4: They're playing a short game for logical reasons, and they've
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Speaker 4: done it before in twenty twenty one, and where I thought,
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of eating my popcorn watching the
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Speaker 4: twenty one Super Bowl against the Bengals and say, all right,
14:47
Speaker 4: all right, you got that one, but you're gonna have
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Speaker 4: to pay the piper at some point. You know, this
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Speaker 4: is gonna be fun watching you guys. You know, splat
14:55
Speaker 4: not bounce, And yet it seemed like it didn't happen,
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Speaker 4: so less need the GM old buddy Kevin Demoff, the president,
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Speaker 4: who was the son of Marvin Demoff, who is my
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Speaker 4: agent all through, uh through my career. I mean, the
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Speaker 4: people in charge at the Rams, they sure as hell
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Speaker 4: know what they do, and they they they've won a
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Speaker 4: short game Super Bowl in a manner that didn't seem
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Speaker 4: to cripple them in the subsequent years. So now if
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Speaker 4: ty Simpson can't play, then they're gonna be in some
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Speaker 4: trouble uh down the line. But but I think the
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Speaker 4: Seahorks are playing more of the long game, so I
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Speaker 4: think Schneider will possibly look, you know, but I don't
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Speaker 4: think this is gonna, you know, cause him to deviate
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Speaker 4: from their philosophy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, and I don't want him to.
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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I mean things are going pretty well, you know,
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Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good situation that we've got up here
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Speaker 1: in the position.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you got a younger quarterback by ten years,
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Speaker 4: and and uh, you know, a young defense, and and
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Speaker 4: you've got ah, this is kind of John Schneider what
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Speaker 4: I call John Schneider three point zero. I mean, the
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Speaker 4: first seven years with with Carrol's was incredible, won nine
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Speaker 4: playoff games. The second seven years won one playoff game. Uh,
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Speaker 4: and then now we had to say, okay, how do
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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald and uh John Schnyder mesh and and obviously
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Speaker 4: these past couple of years showing that the acquisition of uh,
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Speaker 4: you know, what they've assembled that they they they are
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Speaker 4: working not just well in concert, they're working the best
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Speaker 4: in concert arguably. And so so I think they feel like, hey,
16:33
Speaker 4: we just we just plot our course and and over
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Speaker 4: the long haul, even if the Rams were to get
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Speaker 4: us this now that they're they're not conceding that. Let
16:41
Speaker 4: me let me say that you know, they would bristle
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Speaker 4: that assumption, but I think that they just are going
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Speaker 4: to hold to the long game.
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Speaker 1: It is uh, it's it's quite the statement that they
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Speaker 1: made yesterday. You now have the reigning MVP and the
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Speaker 1: reigning Defensive Player of the Year on the same ball,
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Speaker 1: on the same roster. I should say, yeah, I imagine
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Speaker 1: if Dan Marino and Lawrence Taylor would have hooked up
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Speaker 1: once upon a time.
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Speaker 4: You don't see these kind of pairings often, right, I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know Hall of Famers, Yeah, and you know, and
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Speaker 4: just watching the tape, you know, I'm here, I'm rattling
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Speaker 4: off stats, but watching the tape, you know, the guy Garrett,
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Speaker 4: he you know, he has every you know, the first thing, Okay,
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Speaker 4: does he have the speed? Can he turn the corner?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 4: His speed to power absolutely? What talked about his the
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Speaker 4: bull rush, just the straight bull rush, Yes, he power.
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Speaker 4: And then he has this thing, this kind of euro
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Speaker 4: step whereas the right end he's he comes up on
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Speaker 4: a left tackle and his outside leg he kind of
17:43
Speaker 4: takes a big step that would be his right leg,
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Speaker 4: but then he like he crossovers like an NBA player
17:48
Speaker 4: going down the middle of the lane with this big
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Speaker 4: euro step. Then he goes straight laterally with this huge
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Speaker 4: euro step to his left foot and then accelerates. He
17:59
Speaker 4: pulled that move that I just described against Trent Williams
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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame bound left tackle for the forty
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Speaker 4: nine ers. He got the sack on rock Party. The
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Speaker 4: NFL registered it at two point three seconds. That is
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Speaker 4: just freaky. And Trent Williams Burriley laid a fingernail on
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Speaker 4: Garrett Well and I just like that was just jaw dropping.
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Speaker 4: And then he does that same move and then goes
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Speaker 4: back out to the outside, so it's an out in
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Speaker 4: out euro step like he's got this whole bevy. I
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Speaker 4: think the only thing he doesn't have great hands, He
18:32
Speaker 4: just uses his strength and feet. And then I would say,
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Speaker 4: lastly on his profile, he you know everybody talks about
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Speaker 4: his first step, I would say, he reminds me, have
18:45
Speaker 4: you ever written a driven a V six Turbo in
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Speaker 4: the day. You know where you punch the accelerator and
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Speaker 4: it just takes a split second longer, Like I don't
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Speaker 4: think Miles great Garrett has an elite first step. He's
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Speaker 4: too big, But his second step and and his third
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Speaker 4: and fourth like once just a split second where once
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Speaker 4: he gets going that acceleration, and of course his body's
19:10
Speaker 4: built like a HEMI if I'm going to continue the analogy.
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Speaker 4: So that's that's the profile that I would summarize from
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Speaker 4: watching the tape. It's it's it's a it's impressive, it's devastating.
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Speaker 4: And I think Charles Cross, you know, is chugging some
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Speaker 4: tombs this morning and and last night. You know, if
19:29
Speaker 4: he happened to watch the tape I watched.
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Speaker 1: Uh, well, get like you said earlier, get out the popcorn.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a very interesting here Seahawks versus Rams.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the forty nine ers can hang in
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Speaker 1: this conversation anymore.
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Speaker 4: So, well, I hope you're right in that on the
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers front. You know, if we can clear
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Speaker 4: things out, don't have to deal with it till late
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Speaker 4: in the season. But I think the NFL looks at
19:54
Speaker 4: at these two teams as as the clear you know, uh,
19:59
Speaker 4: the clear classes of the league. In Seattle, they've lost
20:03
Speaker 4: a little more, so probably figure they're you know, if
20:08
Speaker 4: you're a gambling man, you say they're just about neck
20:11
Speaker 4: and neck.
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Speaker 1: All right, man, great stuff, as always, Thank you so
20:14
Speaker 1: much appreciate it. Thank here he is Humell and r
20:17
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20:20
Speaker 1: Of course, that's the that's the call you make when
20:23
Speaker 1: a Mile scare trade something of that significance goes down,
20:26
Speaker 1: you got to get huge thoughts on it. So we're
20:28
Speaker 1: glad we could catch up with him here this morning.
20:31
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Speaker 1: let you know that Rob Staton for the first time
21:00
Speaker 1: is going to be joining us in our one series
21:02
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. So we've already talked a lot about
21:04
Speaker 1: Miles Scarett joining the Rams here this morning. You just
21:07
Speaker 1: missed Hugh probably kicking yourself over that. Just Hughes breakdown
21:12
Speaker 1: of it at seven oh five but we have a
21:14
Speaker 1: lot more on Miles Scarett coming your way. But certainly
21:17
Speaker 1: we have a baseball team playing it's best baseball right now,
21:20
Speaker 1: playing Mariners baseball right now, and figuring out how to
21:23
Speaker 1: win games. Late last night, a three to two victory
21:26
Speaker 1: over the New York Mets to make it seven in
21:28
Speaker 1: a row. And the formula is there. It's starting pitching.
21:33
Speaker 1: It's a bullpen that seems fresh and fantastic, just like you. Exactly, Oh,
21:39
Speaker 1: I need a T shirt?
21:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, says that, Yes, simply see, I'll get on that
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Speaker 5: right expression.
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Speaker 3: Fantastic.
21:45
Speaker 1: So that's going well and then just getting just enough
21:48
Speaker 1: offense and actually knocking in runs. I mean, we should
21:52
Speaker 1: have been on Saquatch last night. Turns out we didn't
21:55
Speaker 1: need one, because Cole Young ends up getting a base
21:58
Speaker 1: hit off the end of the bat for a game
21:59
Speaker 1: win single that scores Randy Rose Arena. So where's the
22:02
Speaker 1: alphabet gonna take us here this morning? Well, we left
22:06
Speaker 1: off of the letter D yesterday. D is for Dan
22:09
Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, and I realized that a lot of you
22:13
Speaker 1: are still crushing him for this, But I think we've
22:15
Speaker 1: seen some progress in the area of Dan Wilson and
22:19
Speaker 1: his lefty righty platoons that he is doing. I think
22:24
Speaker 1: that was wonderful. I suggested it yesterday. The Mets are
22:29
Speaker 1: not sticking with Austin Warren. Everybody knew that. Beyond an
22:32
Speaker 1: inning or two, he only went one. You're gonna see
22:34
Speaker 1: Sean Maniyah most likely coming in soon into the game.
22:38
Speaker 1: But there was also a chance they could go to
22:41
Speaker 1: a long reliever who was right handed in that situation
22:45
Speaker 1: if you built up too much of a right handed lineup,
22:48
Speaker 1: and so he did the little balancing act. He had
22:51
Speaker 1: Raleyan Refsninder in the lineup and the same time, which
22:54
Speaker 1: we rarely ever see, and then he just kind of
22:56
Speaker 1: had to write it out. You know, they brought in Maniah.
23:00
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take out Rayleigh. But in the
23:02
Speaker 1: seventh inning they did take out Raley, and they brought
23:05
Speaker 1: in Patrick Wisdom, and he didn't come through. He was
23:07
Speaker 1: zero for two. He certainly did not come through for
23:10
Speaker 1: the team last night. But to me, that's progress. To me,
23:12
Speaker 1: those are correct moves. They don't always work out, those
23:16
Speaker 1: are correct moves in that situation. And so I think
23:19
Speaker 1: what we're seeing here recently out of Dan is him
23:22
Speaker 1: getting his arms around this getting a handle on how
23:25
Speaker 1: he should be platooning when he should be pinch hitting.
23:28
Speaker 1: I see progress.
23:29
Speaker 3: I've seen it as well.
23:30
Speaker 5: And it is funny though, because I think we are
23:32
Speaker 5: so accustomed to being irritated with his moves. We got
23:35
Speaker 5: a text when we came in this morning that was
23:37
Speaker 5: why the f did he pinch hit for Naylor? The
23:39
Speaker 5: person didn't have their TV volume on, so they didn't
23:41
Speaker 5: realize Naylor had been.
23:43
Speaker 3: Hurt, but they were like, what are you doing?
23:45
Speaker 5: So I felt bad just sitting there angry at Dan
23:47
Speaker 5: Wilson for sixteen hours.
23:49
Speaker 3: But luckily now they can be calmed.
23:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I know, and so we kind
23:54
Speaker 1: of just jumped to this. But Luke Raley can't hit
23:56
Speaker 1: left handers, he never has. I think it's a good
23:59
Speaker 1: idea to platoon him. I think it is a good
24:01
Speaker 1: idea to pinch hit him. I don't like pinch hitting
24:04
Speaker 1: him too early, pinch hitting for him too early, because
24:07
Speaker 1: I won him late. Like the Diamondbacks series was a
24:11
Speaker 1: perfect example of that. They only have one left hander.
24:13
Speaker 1: They can only play that trick one time. It's like
24:15
Speaker 1: the scene with the the you know, the the green
24:18
Speaker 1: Bomb and Game of thrones, you know, the you know,
24:22
Speaker 1: the dwarf can only play that trick one time, think
24:25
Speaker 1: about it for a second, and so that's that's what
24:28
Speaker 1: they had to do in that situation. So I see
24:30
Speaker 1: some progress there, and I think he's finally starting to
24:34
Speaker 1: understand how he wants to incorporate this now. I just
24:37
Speaker 1: brought up Byron Buckston's name yesterday on Day one a
24:40
Speaker 1: trade season. That helps with a lot of strategy. If
24:43
Speaker 1: you just can have a superstar playing the outfield every
24:47
Speaker 1: day and you don't ever have to consider pinch.
24:50
Speaker 3: Hitting for him, that would be nice.
24:52
Speaker 1: That's how wonderful.
24:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just imagining it.
24:55
Speaker 5: Although the concern I think when we've brought up Buckston
24:59
Speaker 5: is does he you have a no trade clause? But
25:01
Speaker 5: then I was thinking, I mean a lot of people
25:02
Speaker 5: have a no trade clause. You just have to have
25:04
Speaker 5: the right trade partner that they'll agree to go to.
25:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said last year he was never going to
25:09
Speaker 1: waive it, and then all of a sudden he said,
25:11
Speaker 1: I would for the right situation. How could this not
25:13
Speaker 1: be the right situation playing for this team. He's already
25:16
Speaker 1: accustomed to the life in the North.
25:18
Speaker 3: There's at least a chance.
25:19
Speaker 1: Uh oh, I think more than a chance. I think
25:21
Speaker 1: if we trade it for Byron Bucks, and he'd be like,
25:23
Speaker 1: where do I sign? All right? He is for Ewing.
25:28
Speaker 1: We saw aj Ewing, who is one of the Mets
25:31
Speaker 1: young prospects, and he's made quite a splash with the
25:33
Speaker 1: New York Mets. And he made two good plays last night,
25:36
Speaker 1: to very good plays, maybe even one great play. But
25:39
Speaker 1: of course he did make one play in which he
25:41
Speaker 1: timed out his dive so that he could be on
25:44
Speaker 1: the highlights last night. And I just want to take
25:47
Speaker 1: this time to again, I hope you appreciate that Cole
25:51
Speaker 1: Young made a much better defensive play than either of
25:54
Speaker 1: the aj Ewing plays last night. But I'm sure Ewing
25:58
Speaker 1: got on all the highlights because he got his grass,
26:01
Speaker 1: He got grass on his jersey. But Cole Young just
26:04
Speaker 1: waited on a high chopper at second base and turns
26:08
Speaker 1: the double play with a runner crossing right in front
26:12
Speaker 1: of his face. Do you know the degree of difficulty
26:14
Speaker 1: of that play? Do you know what this young man
26:17
Speaker 1: is doing at second base so far for this baseball team.
26:21
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the second time in a week
26:23
Speaker 1: where I think he has made just a sensational play
26:28
Speaker 1: that won't ever get on the highlight film because he
26:31
Speaker 1: didn't leave his feet in order to do it. I
26:34
Speaker 1: mean that was a great Once again, Cole Young authored
26:38
Speaker 1: a great defensive play, even if the stupid umpire didn't
26:41
Speaker 1: know the rules.
26:42
Speaker 5: And I thought Cole Young's play was equally impressive, so
26:45
Speaker 5: I think it should have made a highlight reel. And also,
26:48
Speaker 5: does New York just have a thing with Ewing's They
26:50
Speaker 5: like stars named ewing Is?
26:51
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yes they do know it's funny thing Dallas.
26:55
Speaker 1: The TV show was originally supposed to be shot in
26:57
Speaker 1: New York.
26:58
Speaker 3: That makes so much more sense now, Jr. You right, sneaky.
27:03
Speaker 1: That's how much they love you.
27:04
Speaker 3: Yea makes sense, Patrick Jr.
27:08
Speaker 1: And A pretty much the mount rushmore of you.
27:12
Speaker 3: That's it right there?
27:14
Speaker 1: All right. F is for fail And not only did
27:17
Speaker 1: that umpire because I'm not done with that umpire? How
27:21
Speaker 1: stupid are you, buddy? Like? What else? What else was
27:25
Speaker 1: Cole Young supposed to do? And you literally wanted to
27:28
Speaker 1: call interference on that play? Unreal? I am glad that
27:32
Speaker 1: you had another umpire to tell you. I'm going to
27:35
Speaker 1: try to cover for you on this, but you are
27:37
Speaker 1: looking really dumb right now, like you don't know basic.
27:40
Speaker 3: Rules, the basic rules.
27:44
Speaker 1: But that's not who's going to be my fail. F
27:46
Speaker 1: is for fail and I am directing that at the
27:50
Speaker 1: Mariners television broadcast. Why do we do this? And I'm
27:55
Speaker 1: not blaming Brad or Angie. This is all about the
27:58
Speaker 1: Mariners not give updated information. I don't why why do
28:03
Speaker 1: you protect this? You have a fan base that wants
28:07
Speaker 1: to know things that you should be happy that you
28:10
Speaker 1: have thousands of Mariner fans, tens of thousands, hundreds of
28:13
Speaker 1: thousands of Mariners fans watching that really want to know
28:17
Speaker 1: why Josh Naylor left the game.
28:19
Speaker 5: I just told you about a guy who thought he
28:21
Speaker 5: just got pinchiped for it because he had no clue
28:23
Speaker 5: because there was no update.
28:24
Speaker 1: You don't talk about it when a guy goes out.
28:27
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing because I wanna blame Aaron
28:31
Speaker 1: on this too. Number One, you don't need to protect
28:36
Speaker 1: injury information like that. Dan then got to his press
28:38
Speaker 1: conference and said it as casually as could be. Yeah,
28:41
Speaker 1: he had a backspasm when he swung, and we just
28:45
Speaker 1: you know, precaution took him out. But we don't think
28:47
Speaker 1: it's going to be anything big we'll see, says a cash.
28:50
Speaker 1: Why can't that be mentioned? This is not football. And
28:53
Speaker 1: even in football, you have sideline reporters that get information
28:57
Speaker 1: from the teams and pass it along.
28:59
Speaker 3: Knee injury turned doubtful, right.
29:01
Speaker 1: And that's in football when they can come back into
29:04
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, once a guy leaves the game, what
29:07
Speaker 1: are you protecting? Why do you need to protect his
29:11
Speaker 1: injury information? Let the audience know what's going on with
29:16
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor, especially when it's something as simple as well,
29:21
Speaker 1: he tweaked his back a little bit on that home
29:23
Speaker 1: run swing and we just felt it was better to
29:25
Speaker 1: take him out of the game. Why can't that be
29:27
Speaker 1: told to Brad or Angie and relayed onto the broadcast.
29:32
Speaker 1: And if you're not gonna do it, if you simply nope,
29:35
Speaker 1: that's our policy. We're not gonna do it. We're not
29:37
Speaker 1: gonna We're not going to tell our fans anything. Then
29:42
Speaker 1: at least tell your play by play man to talk
29:45
Speaker 1: about Josh Naylor not being in the game anymore. We
29:48
Speaker 1: do this all the time. Somebody gets hurt and then
29:51
Speaker 1: we act like it didn't happen. That was the biggest
29:54
Speaker 1: story going on in the game, and we act like
29:57
Speaker 1: there's a no hitter being thrown, which I have a
29:59
Speaker 1: problem with in the beginning. In the beginning, you know
30:02
Speaker 1: that we don't mention when a no hitter is being thrown.
30:05
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You are the narrator to the
30:08
Speaker 1: baseball season and to the baseball game, and you're not
30:11
Speaker 1: going to talk about the biggest issues during a game.
30:16
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor leaving with a mysterious injury is a big
30:20
Speaker 1: deal in a baseball game. And not only do the
30:23
Speaker 1: Mariners keep the information from getting to the sideline reporters,
30:27
Speaker 1: the play by play man won't address it. And I
30:30
Speaker 1: think it's a complete failure on the part of Mariners TV.
30:35
Speaker 1: So John Stanton listens all the time. John put an
30:38
Speaker 1: end to it. It's silly, It is ridiculous. There is
30:41
Speaker 1: no reason that you can't update us in a game
30:44
Speaker 1: when one of our star players leaves with a mysterious injury.
30:48
Speaker 1: When you have the information right there at your fingertips,
30:51
Speaker 1: and it's not going to hurt any person, any player,
30:54
Speaker 1: It's not going to give any kind of strategic advantage
30:57
Speaker 1: to the opponent. Nothing give us the information we shouldn't
31:00
Speaker 1: have to wait till after the game is over to
31:03
Speaker 1: find out that it's no big deal.
31:04
Speaker 5: Well, and it didn't seem like we used to have
31:06
Speaker 5: to find that out. It seems like a recent thing
31:08
Speaker 5: because they used to. I know, when I was covering games,
31:10
Speaker 5: they'd announce what in the press box, what it was
31:13
Speaker 5: that the person was out with.
31:14
Speaker 1: It's the point of having a sideline reporter, that is
31:17
Speaker 1: the absolute There's no point in showing us what kind
31:21
Speaker 1: of food you get in a suite. There's no point
31:24
Speaker 1: to having a sideline reporter that like in the NFL,
31:28
Speaker 1: just asked the head coach as he's coming off, how
31:31
Speaker 1: did the offense look? How did the defense look?
31:33
Speaker 3: What are you going to do in the second half?
31:35
Speaker 1: Pointless gathering information in game that the fans and the
31:41
Speaker 1: viewers don't have access to. That is the primary job
31:45
Speaker 1: of the sideline reporter, and the Mariners won't let their
31:48
Speaker 1: sideline reporters do their primary functions. Let us know what's
31:54
Speaker 1: going on. We've had this with cal We've had this
31:56
Speaker 1: with Julio. We've had star players who have left games
32:00
Speaker 1: and we've got to go innings hours without knowing if
32:04
Speaker 1: he's okay or not. It's ridiculous. Stop doing it, period,
32:08
Speaker 1: end of story. I would agree, all right, coming out
32:11
Speaker 1: next it is trade season and this is is this
32:14
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest trade season of all time
32:16
Speaker 1: because it looks like everybody has decided they're going to
32:19
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32:24
Speaker 1: I didn't mean gets so worked up after a seventh
32:26
Speaker 1: straight win. A lot of good things. Don't want to
32:29
Speaker 1: find the one bad thing. But it is very frustrating.
32:33
Speaker 3: I get it.
32:33
Speaker 1: I was just telling Ashley, remember Brian wu last year,
32:37
Speaker 1: We're getting ready for the playoffs. He's our clear ace
32:40
Speaker 1: and he leaves that game with the injury, and we're like,
32:44
Speaker 1: what happened? What is going on? We didn't get an
32:47
Speaker 1: update the entire game on what's wrong with our ace
32:51
Speaker 1: as we're getting ready for the playoffs.
32:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was real frustrating, Like I don't get what.
32:57
Speaker 1: It's the only team that does this and sport and
33:01
Speaker 1: from what I understand, it's not the sideline reports. The
33:03
Speaker 1: sideline reporters aren't being given the information. We employ now
33:08
Speaker 1: for a lot of games, two different sideline reporters, and
33:12
Speaker 1: why are they not there if not to relay information?
33:16
Speaker 1: Regarding when our star players mysteriously leave baseball games.
33:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying Josh Naylor left the game. Isn't
33:23
Speaker 5: giving any information. It's just saying that he's no longer there.
33:26
Speaker 5: We could see he was no longer there.
33:28
Speaker 1: And even if you don't have the information, it should
33:31
Speaker 1: still be discussed that Josh Naylor and hopefully he's okay.
33:34
Speaker 1: And this is what we're having to do. And normally
33:36
Speaker 1: this is when Josh Naylor would be at the plate.
33:38
Speaker 1: They didn't even mention that.
33:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't even mention it.
33:41
Speaker 1: Roblaze came up and had a regular at bat like like.
33:45
Speaker 3: It's just like he was just pinch hitting for Naylor.
33:47
Speaker 1: Just said one of those days. But why would Josh
33:51
Speaker 1: Naylor not be hitting here? Pass the information along? It's
33:55
Speaker 1: not that hard. You're not doing anything special by protecting
33:58
Speaker 1: your player's injury and information till the end of the
34:01
Speaker 1: game and then just mentioning it in a press conference casually,
34:05
Speaker 1: What are you accomplishing with that? All right, that's not
34:08
Speaker 1: what I was going to talk about. We're going to
34:09
Speaker 1: talk about trade season because it did open yesterday, and
34:13
Speaker 1: of course, trade season for me is June and July
34:15
Speaker 1: leading up to the Major League Baseball trading deadline, but
34:19
Speaker 1: man trade season obviously. I mean, there was talk yesterday
34:23
Speaker 1: not only did we get the aj Brown trade that
34:25
Speaker 1: we were expecting to get, we get the blockbuster Miles
34:29
Speaker 1: Garrett trade yesterday, and there were a lot of insiders saying,
34:32
Speaker 1: hold on to your hats, we might not be done.
34:34
Speaker 1: This June first threshold is what a lot of teams
34:37
Speaker 1: that have had some deals in the works have been
34:40
Speaker 1: waiting for for quite some time. So yes, this is
34:43
Speaker 1: not just exclusive to our countdown to Major League Baseball's
34:47
Speaker 1: trading deadline. NFL trade season seems to now begin at
34:51
Speaker 1: this June first date as well, and I think that.
34:56
Speaker 1: I mean, we got one more series in the NBA
34:59
Speaker 1: and then the NBA Draft happens very quickly after the
35:04
Speaker 1: season comes to a close, like a week later for
35:06
Speaker 1: goodness sake, and there's going to be a lot that's
35:09
Speaker 1: going to have to get done on that front before
35:11
Speaker 1: the draft rolls around. We could have a situation and
35:14
Speaker 1: the month of June Ashley where the best defensive football
35:18
Speaker 1: player in the world has been traded, the best pitcher
35:22
Speaker 1: in the world has been traded because Trek Schoolbol is
35:25
Speaker 1: probably going to be traded before the end of the month,
35:29
Speaker 1: as long as he comes back and looks healthy, and
35:32
Speaker 1: his first couple starts with the Tigers back from the
35:35
Speaker 1: injury list, and we could have Giannis Antintakupo also traded
35:41
Speaker 1: within the span of a month. I mean, you want
35:43
Speaker 1: to talk about trade season, this could be one of
35:46
Speaker 1: the most banner Junes for sports trades in America we've
35:50
Speaker 1: ever seen.
35:50
Speaker 5: Well, you know why they'd be doing it because America's
35:52
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty years old, and they've got to
35:54
Speaker 5: make the trade season of the two hundred and fiftieth
35:57
Speaker 5: anniversary of America even bigger. Sure, because that's why everything's happening. Yeah,
36:02
Speaker 5: because America is doing and fifty.
36:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's uh, I think that's how
36:07
Speaker 1: it all started. We traded, We traded for our freedom.
36:10
Speaker 1: There you go.
36:11
Speaker 5: And now Derek Scouble will be pitching for the Dodgers probably.
36:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that could all happen this month. So this
36:18
Speaker 1: could be a very memorable trade season. I hope it does, indeed.
36:22
Speaker 1: But obviously Miles Garrett stole all the headlines. So yesterday
36:27
Speaker 1: the defensive end is now a member of the Los
36:29
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams and if you didn't hear Hughes conversation, I mean,
36:35
Speaker 1: we all knew, Hugh. We all knew, including Hugh obviously,
36:39
Speaker 1: how great Miles Garrett is. But then when he did
36:41
Speaker 1: his deep dive, Man, you gotta go back and listen
36:43
Speaker 1: to the Hugh conversation, because man, does he paint the
36:47
Speaker 1: portrait of just a game wrecker in Miles Garrett, I think,
36:52
Speaker 1: and Hugh doing a more thorough breakdown is when he
36:57
Speaker 1: came to appreciate just how great Miles scared It is.
37:00
Speaker 1: I mean, we're throwing around some of the greatest pass
37:03
Speaker 1: rushing names of all time that he's comparing him to
37:06
Speaker 1: in our segment, and the statistics bear out that he
37:09
Speaker 1: might be on more so of a heater than Reggie
37:11
Speaker 1: White was during the highlight of his career while Lawrence
37:15
Speaker 1: Taylor was during the heyday of his career. So, yeah,
37:19
Speaker 1: things got a little uncomfortable up in here in this division.
37:23
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the Seahawks are just going to stay
37:25
Speaker 1: the course. I mean, there was a story that broke
37:28
Speaker 1: yesterday about how great a position they're in financially, like
37:33
Speaker 1: they will have less dead money. The Seahawks than any
37:36
Speaker 1: other team on their cap and the National Football League.
37:39
Speaker 1: Do you know what a great stat that is? You
37:41
Speaker 1: know what that really means when you tear it down,
37:44
Speaker 1: That means all of your money's on the field. You
37:46
Speaker 1: have more of your money on the field and a
37:48
Speaker 1: salary cap league than any other team in the National
37:52
Speaker 1: Football League. You're also the youngest team in the NFL
37:57
Speaker 1: great cap situation at this point.
38:00
Speaker 3: And you're the returning Super Bowl champions.
38:01
Speaker 1: And you're the returning Super Bowl champions as well, and
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Speaker 1: so they're in phenomenal position. And I think that the
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Speaker 1: key to countering what the Rams did yesterday, and they
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Speaker 1: definitely got better, is just to stay the course and
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Speaker 1: count on the fact that you're going to get better
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Speaker 1: this year, and if a move is required in season
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Speaker 1: to bridge the gap, I have no doubt in my
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Speaker 1: mind that we have the right guy in charge of
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Speaker 1: that maneuver. So no panic here, but certainly an impactful move,
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Speaker 1: to say the least, yesterday by the Rams. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: ask Rob Staton about it next but primarily we're bringing
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Speaker 1: him on for our Seahawks one series. It's one Seahawks
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Speaker 1: analyst breaking down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview.
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