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The Week That Was (10/09/2021) · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: Three sixties, the week that was the most listened two
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Speaker 1: hour in Territory radio. The Territory Leaders break down this
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Speaker 1: week's big issues.
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Speaker 2: Well, before we do that, let's take a look at
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Speaker 2: the weather. Sunny with light winds. We're heading for thirty
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Speaker 2: four in the city today, thirty six in the rural
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Speaker 2: area and thirty five degrees in Catherine. The top ends
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Speaker 2: tied times the Quintrex twenty twenty two runoff stock ready
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Speaker 2: to go. Don't miss the boat for another year, get
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Speaker 2: into in and out Boord Marine and secure yours today.
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Speaker 2: We are heading for a low tide of one meter
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Speaker 2: at two thirty this afternoon in Darwin.
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Speaker 3: Right now it's sitting on twenty six degrees.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty seven in the rural area and twenty six
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Speaker 2: in Catherine.
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Speaker 3: And it is Friday morning.
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Speaker 2: It's time for the week that was joining us in
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Speaker 2: the studio this morning. Well, we've got the opposition leader, Leofanocchiaro.
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Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, Happy Friday, everyone, happy voting tomorrow
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Speaker 4: and daily.
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Speaker 2: Hey, we've got Kezier Puric, the member for going to
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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, and don't forget vote early vote often.
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Speaker 2: You can only vote on scart Cole Madison, the Deputy
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Speaker 2: Chief Minister.
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Speaker 5: Unless you were my grandmother who used to go on
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Speaker 5: vote on behalf of her sister who had Alzheimer's as well.
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Speaker 2: They say when I go to vote, have you voted
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Speaker 2: before in this election?
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Speaker 3: Today? I always.
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Speaker 4: They just give you another money mate, good luck?
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Speaker 3: Oh goodness.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We will talk a little bit later about the daily
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Speaker 2: by election, which we know is happening, and tomorrow is
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Speaker 2: the day that it's sort of all I suppose really
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Speaker 2: comes to a conclusion. But first off, let's have a
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Speaker 2: chat a bit further about about our plans to open
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Speaker 2: up the Northern territory and also the fact that Phiza
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Speaker 2: the fires a vaccine is now open to all territorians
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Speaker 2: over the age of twelve.
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Speaker 3: So we know that there are calls from industry. They're
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Speaker 3: getting louder.
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Speaker 2: I think you'd have to say for some more certainty
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Speaker 2: around the borders when it comes to lockdowns and when
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Speaker 2: we're going to open back up. Our New South Wales
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Speaker 2: has today sort of released their plans when it comes
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Speaker 2: to opening back up, and the government, like I mentioned,
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Speaker 2: has announced now that all territorians over the age of
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Speaker 2: twelve are going to be eligible for that fize a
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Speaker 2: vaccine in an effort I think to try to ensure
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Speaker 2: that as many Territorians as possible are vaccinated so that
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Speaker 2: hopefully we're able to get a step closer to those
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Speaker 2: plans in terms of opening.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Look, and I think it's great news that twelve and
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Speaker 4: up they can all get the JAB.
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Speaker 6: It's terrific. I mean, my kids are much.
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Speaker 4: Much younger than that, so it doesn't, you know, affect
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Speaker 4: our family, but there'll be tens of thousands, if not
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Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of territory families who take that opportunity.
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Speaker 4: I think on the vax topic, you know, it's there's
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Speaker 4: been a lot of conjecture of late around the truth
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Speaker 4: and getting to the bottom of the truth in the
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Speaker 4: vaccine numbers, and I think that's what people want to know.
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Speaker 4: We've been very vocal and clear that territory JAB numbers
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Speaker 4: should not include tourists, and we know that a lot
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Speaker 4: of tourists have been while they're in the territory making
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to get the job. We know, for example,
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Speaker 4: parmeersans Superclinic twenty percent of all jabs they've given are
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Speaker 4: for tourists. So we really need the gunn of government
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Speaker 4: to come clear. Of course, numbers out in the remote
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Speaker 4: and the bush are incredibly low, and so what we
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Speaker 4: don't need is a government puffing up the figures. What
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Speaker 4: we need is a real accurate truth on how many
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Speaker 4: Territorians have got the job well.
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Speaker 5: First and foremost, I want to say well done to
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Speaker 5: Territorians for getting out there. We're over fifty percent fully
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Speaker 5: vaccinated and people are still going along with pace. We've
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Speaker 5: always told people it's really important that they do get vaccinated,
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Speaker 5: and we've opened up vaccinations to over twelves ahead.
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Speaker 6: Of everybody else. We've led the.
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Speaker 5: Charge when it comes to vaccination and we're going to
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Speaker 5: keep going that way.
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Speaker 6: So well done to Territorians on getting vaccinated.
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Speaker 5: But whoever has not been vaccinated, time to roll up
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Speaker 5: your sleeve, get the job done.
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Speaker 6: We need as many people vaccinated as possible.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it is good news because I had a
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Speaker 7: constituent and I did write to the health minister at
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Speaker 7: the time, who has I think five children lives in Virginia. Yeah,
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Speaker 7: and he was desperate to have his children fascinated and
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Speaker 7: he was told at that point of time, no, you
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Speaker 7: couldn't because you weren't in the classification as of vulnerable,
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Speaker 7: but of course that's changed now, so I know that
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Speaker 7: he and his wife and family will be very happy,
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Speaker 7: and I reckon he'll be one of those, if not already,
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Speaker 7: people who've gone to get their first vaccination.
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Speaker 5: And next month there'll be a lot more fires are
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Speaker 5: coming into the nation as well, and so you know
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Speaker 5: for some people who have been a bit hesitant again
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Speaker 5: opening up more opportunity to get more jabs in arms,
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Speaker 5: especially down south as well.
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Speaker 6: We want all Australians vaccinated well.
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Speaker 2: And yesterday we actually caught up with Robin Carl from
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Speaker 2: the superclinic out there in Palmeston because they had come
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Speaker 2: into well they had an extra six hundred doses of
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Speaker 2: the fires that need to be used by closer Business today,
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Speaker 2: so she came on the show. Another clinic hadn't been
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Speaker 2: able to utilize all of those. Now we sort of
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Speaker 2: spoke about that yesterday. They've only got one hundred odd
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Speaker 2: left this morning. So there is still definitely people out
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Speaker 2: there who want to get vaccinated. They do want to
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Speaker 2: get vaccinated quickly, particularly in that over sixty age group.
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Speaker 2: I reckon all those that were previously only eligible for
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Speaker 2: the astrosenica. I hope that we do find that, you know,
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Speaker 2: that number of people who've been vaccinated or who are
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Speaker 2: in the process of is really boosted.
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Speaker 7: Now that that's changed, I think it will. I mean,
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Speaker 7: I know there is still some residual presidency with people
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Speaker 7: over sixty to get the astroseneka yea, because of and
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Speaker 7: we've talked about this before and here about the media's
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Speaker 7: role in playing up the issue of we.
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Speaker 3: Never do that. We never do that in the.
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Speaker 7: Media, no, no, no, anyway, So I know that there
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Speaker 7: was some residual hesitancy, and hopefully that will go now
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Speaker 7: because those people can get fiser, particularly people who care
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Speaker 7: for people in need, whether it be a family member
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Speaker 7: or someone else. And I know there has been some
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Speaker 7: hesitancy because they want to be absolutely sure when they
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Speaker 7: take the vaccination they're going to be okay because they're
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Speaker 7: the prime career of someone in need. So that's good
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Speaker 7: that can get resolved now.
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Speaker 5: But again, the most important thing is get vaccinated. If
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Speaker 5: you're unsure, go speak to your GP get some advice.
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Speaker 5: But I think people should feel really safe about getting vaccinated.
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Speaker 6: Nicole.
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Speaker 4: When will the government put out the figures of vaccinate.
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Speaker 4: You know, you say half the territory is vaccinated, but
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Speaker 4: of course that includes tourists and five fos. When are
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Speaker 4: we going to get the data minus tourists and five fos.
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Speaker 4: Do we know how many Territorians have got the job?
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Speaker 5: Well, the advice I've got is that it's mostly Territorians
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Speaker 5: and that we are counting as many people as we
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Speaker 5: can who come in here, get vaccinated and get the
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Speaker 5: job done. But we're really proud to be going through
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Speaker 5: those vaccines. Territorians have put their hand up. They are
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Speaker 5: getting vaccinated, and they're getting vaccinated quickly. Now.
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Speaker 2: The other element to this is indeed the fact that
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Speaker 2: we had ams AT come out yesterday. The Aboriginal Medical
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Speaker 2: Services Alliance, John Patterson came out yesterday. We are going
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Speaker 2: to speak to him after ten o'clock this morning, and
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Speaker 2: they're saying that they want ninety to ninety five percent
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Speaker 2: of the population vaccinated before those borders.
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Speaker 3: Do open up.
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Speaker 2: They're obviously very worried about our indigenous population and we
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Speaker 2: know that realistically at this point in time, that is
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Speaker 2: where we are lagging behind lines when it comes to
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Speaker 2: I'll just turn your microphone down there for a second.
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Speaker 2: That is indeed where we are having some issues at
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Speaker 2: the moment is in some of those more remote communities
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Speaker 2: where the vaccination rate is incredibly low.
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Speaker 3: Now when we look at then the.
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Speaker 2: Northern Territory potentially opening up when that does happen, are
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Speaker 2: we going to be delayed you know, a significant amount
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Speaker 2: of time if we do still have that hesitancy in
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Speaker 2: some of those communities, or are we going to get
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Speaker 2: to the point where we actually where we can't open
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Speaker 2: those communities up.
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Speaker 5: We are doing a huge amount of work get across
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Speaker 5: every community, to have the health workers in every community,
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Speaker 5: to work with the Aboriginal health organizations about getting people vaccinated.
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Speaker 5: We've seen some magnificent results in some of our very
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Speaker 5: large communities, but there is no doubt there are some
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Speaker 5: other communities that we are working through that we have
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Speaker 5: seen real hesitancy, real reluctance to go getvaccinated. So there
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Speaker 5: will be a lot of work on the ground because
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Speaker 5: the most vulnerable people through COVID are the elderly and
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Speaker 5: Aboriginal people in the territory, typically in the remote areas,
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Speaker 5: so we need to get Aboriginal people vaccinated in communities.
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Speaker 2: I have just had the operator of one of the
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Speaker 2: clinics get in contact with us. One of the private
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Speaker 2: ones just asking when will they be able to get
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Speaker 2: access to more PIZA because at the moment the astrosenica
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Speaker 2: is obviously a big part of their role out and
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Speaker 2: if they're able to get their hands on the Pfizer,
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that will also make a big difference since
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Speaker 2: speeding things up.
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Speaker 5: So the federal government work with the private clinics, and
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Speaker 5: so the federal government are the ones that distribute vaccine
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Speaker 5: to those clinics, and my understanding was that most of
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Speaker 5: that vaccine was actually astrosenica that they were getting hands on.
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Speaker 5: I could understand and appreciate that they would want to
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Speaker 5: get hold of PISA, and certainly there's some conversations with
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Speaker 5: the federal government and the health ministers, without a.
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Speaker 4: Doubt, But if they're gunner government talking about vaccine targets
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Speaker 4: to open up, etc. If our numbers are not just
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Speaker 4: territorians and we're really not actually at those targets, like
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Speaker 4: I just it doesn't make sense to me why you
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Speaker 4: would include tourists and firefos in territory JAB numbers for
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Speaker 4: the purposes of making this decision. It's you know we've
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Speaker 4: had if one clinic has twenty percent of all vaccines
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Speaker 4: being tourists, and I've heard even instances in remote communities
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Speaker 4: where you know, grat nomads are coming through and getting jabs.
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Speaker 4: You know, surely we have to cleanse that, done it
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Speaker 4: and make sure we know exactly how many Territorians are vaccinated,
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Speaker 4: not just how many jabs in arms we've done, because
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Speaker 4: you know, a twenty percent differential is a really big amount.
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Speaker 2: Lea.
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Speaker 6: Let me be very clear.
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Speaker 5: We are putting the health of Territorians first, and I'm
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Speaker 5: simply not getting the same advice that you are from
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Speaker 5: our health professional.
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Speaker 4: But you haven't ruled out that the numbers include tourists.
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Speaker 5: We are looking at the numbers of Territorians. That's what
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Speaker 5: we look at when we're making these considerations about vaccination
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Speaker 5: and how we manage COVID.
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Speaker 2: So that was made to me yesterday by Bernie, one
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Speaker 2: of our listeners. He actually said to us, what, we're
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Speaker 2: all Australians. So while those numbers obviously might differentiate to
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Speaker 2: some degree, don't we want all assy stuff about.
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Speaker 6: No, No, I've got no issue with that.
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying when we talk about the number of
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Speaker 4: territorians vaccinated. The Gunner government accounting the number of jabs
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Speaker 4: we've done in the territory, which is great, Like sure,
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Speaker 4: whoever wants one, come and get it.
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Speaker 6: You know, that's that's not the issue.
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Speaker 4: But what the issue is is we need to know
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Speaker 4: how many Territorians, actual local people.
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Speaker 2: I reckon we're going to you know, those numbers are
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Speaker 2: going to move, There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 3: They're going to move forward. They are going to.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully we're in a situation where those numbers move forward
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Speaker 2: really rather quickly. But I think that the discussion is
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Speaker 2: starting to turn now towards how long can we actually
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Speaker 2: afford as a community to stay closed in terms of
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Speaker 2: not you know, not having other states visitors. I know
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Speaker 2: that they are hot spots at this point in time.
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Speaker 2: Probably all of us are a little bit cautious about
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Speaker 2: anybody coming from Victoria or New South Wales right now.
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Speaker 2: But when is this going to start to turn? What
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Speaker 2: is the plan to get us out of here? Is
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Speaker 2: one of the things that that industries talking about. We
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Speaker 2: spoke to Alex Bruce earlier in the week. We also
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Speaker 2: heard from Jarvis Ryan talking about the education sector and
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Speaker 2: teachers wondering whether they're going to be able to go
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Speaker 2: away at Christmas.
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Speaker 3: Time and then come back.
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Speaker 2: And then the other element of that is ensuring that
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Speaker 2: our hospital is prepared. We know that just yesterday there
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Speaker 2: was another Code yellow called and are we actually in
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Speaker 2: a situation where well, this is exactly what someone's message
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Speaker 2: through this morning Drby from the dow and he said,
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Speaker 2: we're eighteen months into a pandemic. I'm curious to know
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Speaker 2: what the government's done to prepare the ICU should we
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Speaker 2: have an outbreak.
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Speaker 6: There've been plans from the very start of this, Katie.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been sitting in the Sempse meetings where
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Speaker 5: we do the COVID management from the very start of
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Speaker 5: this global pandemic and ICU capacity, how we manage community
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Speaker 5: by community, how we manage every town.
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Speaker 6: In the territory when it comes to COVID.
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Speaker 5: We've put plans right across the Northern Territory, including with
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Speaker 5: the hospital, how we manage the center of national resilience.
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Speaker 5: But again, right now we are living a pretty good
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Speaker 5: life in the Northern Territory compared to everywhere else in
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Speaker 5: New South Wales and Victoria and the Act. That's because
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Speaker 5: we've made the hard decisions, and we've made the right
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Speaker 5: decisions about quarantine policy and how we keep people safe.
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Speaker 6: We've made the tough decisions and the tough.
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Speaker 5: Cause on the borders when it's come to community safety,
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Speaker 5: and we're going to continue to do that to keep
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Speaker 5: people safe.
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Speaker 7: I think what I think it's been talked about in
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Speaker 7: here and what needs to be reinforced is we can't
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Speaker 7: keep going into lockdowns and shutting state borders and territory
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Speaker 7: borders as a way to manage a case like we
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Speaker 7: had with our a person who came in from overseas.
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Speaker 7: I mean, yes, you've got to take some measures. Yes,
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Speaker 7: you've got to identify where the exposures are, where the
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Speaker 7: risks are.
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Speaker 3: We can't afford to be long.
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Speaker 7: That can't be the way we live into the future.
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Speaker 7: And I know all governments are grappling with this issue
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Speaker 7: and are at a federal level, but somehow there has
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Speaker 7: to be some kind of agreement. So if you have
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Speaker 7: a person, for example, that has fully vaccinated, healthy kind
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Speaker 7: of person and they've come from Victoria or U South
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Speaker 7: West or anywhere for that matter that's got an issue,
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Speaker 7: they should be able to come into the territory. I
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Speaker 7: get it, they might come in and get a vaccination,
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Speaker 7: but those people, if they can prove they've been vaccinated properly,
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Speaker 7: should be able to travel into the territory because their
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Speaker 7: risk would be minimal in my view, and I think
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Speaker 7: that's where we have to get to in the first
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Speaker 7: step is to say, yes, percentage of people are obviously
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Speaker 7: getting vacated around the country quickly as much as they
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Speaker 7: can get the vaccinations. But we've got to be able
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Speaker 7: to have a bit more travel across our borders because
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Speaker 7: they're the people who are going to spend money, and
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Speaker 7: they're the people who are going to invest and perhaps
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Speaker 7: do other things here while in the territory. So we've
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Speaker 7: got to get to a position of not just shutting
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Speaker 7: down the borders at the drop of a hat when
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Speaker 7: we find a case.
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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, but this issue of the Code yellow, I mean
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Speaker 4: this is the third Code Yellow this year.
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Speaker 6: It's very very scary.
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Speaker 4: That means there is unprecedented levels of pressure on our
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Speaker 4: hospital system.
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Speaker 6: Now how the government.
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Speaker 4: You know, last Code yellow was just a few weeks
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Speaker 4: ago and the government never went to any attempts to
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Speaker 4: talk about it.
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Speaker 6: It got leaked through the media for the second.
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Speaker 2: Time a person get in contact with us and say
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Speaker 2: that his surgery being recheduled.
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Speaker 6: Yes, oh is that yesterday?
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Speaker 3: You guys, that's right.
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Speaker 4: So you know, we've got a situation where the government
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Speaker 4: doesn't want people to know that the hospital is going
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Speaker 4: into code yellow. Of course, we are in a global pandemic,
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Speaker 4: and thank goodness, things are okay in the territory, but
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Speaker 4: if they weren't, we can't even deliver services now. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that is a major issue, and the government over these
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Speaker 4: three code yellows, has not explained what the problem at
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Speaker 4: AURDH is, what it is they're going to do to
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Speaker 4: fix it, how they're going to support our health professionals.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the cancelation of those surgeries, of course, has
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Speaker 4: traumatic and extensive impact on territories who've been waiting a
14:43
Speaker 4: long time to get out of chronic pain.
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Speaker 6: Whatever it might be.
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Speaker 4: The impact on cancer therapy for example, you know, it's
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Speaker 4: it's significant and debilitating for many people. So we can't
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Speaker 4: just keep tracking along where every few weeks our hospital
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Speaker 4: goes into total utter crisis and then expect to be
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Speaker 4: able to manage COVID if it comes lea.
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Speaker 6: I just think, yes, you're fear mongering.
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Speaker 5: You you were talking down the professionalism of how the
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Speaker 5: yellow it's the government want to stress about the hospital
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Speaker 5: management at the moment there are Code yellow. Yes, we
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Speaker 5: have seen a surge in demand, but there are very
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Speaker 5: strict management plans about how you get through that and
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Speaker 5: make sure that it doesn't compromise the health of people.
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Speaker 5: It is done in a way where if there are
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Speaker 5: for example, elective surgeries that can be postponed deferred, that
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Speaker 5: that is what happens. But I really want to reassure
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Speaker 5: territories it will not be compromising people's health, particularly if
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Speaker 5: they require emergency.
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Speaker 2: Point though that Leah makes is a very valid one
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Speaker 2: in the sense that if we are in a situation
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Speaker 2: right now where we're in a Code yellow, you do
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Speaker 2: wonder if we open those borders up. We know that
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Speaker 2: you know that we do have issues here in the
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Speaker 2: Northern Territory with chronic illness and and we certainly have
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Speaker 2: have some concerns in that area. So if we do
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Speaker 2: then open the Northern Territory up, and which which we're
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Speaker 2: going to have to get to a point where we
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Speaker 2: do everybody in Australia, like you said, Keyser, is getting
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Speaker 2: to that point. So we're going to get to that point,
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Speaker 2: is the hospital going to be able to cope? Nobody's
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Speaker 2: questioning the effectiveness and the great work that those staff do.
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Speaker 2: But we see even in other states, you know, where
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Speaker 2: they've where they've got bigger facilities and are probably funded
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Speaker 2: in a much greater capacity than what we are, where
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Speaker 2: they're struggling. So if we're all ready under the pump,
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Speaker 2: you do tend to wonder how we're going to go.
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Speaker 5: And again, Katie, this is why it's important to take
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Speaker 5: the medical advice like we have the whole way through
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Speaker 5: this when it comes to hotspots, how you manage the
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Speaker 5: borders and how you do these things, particularly when we're
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Speaker 5: going through a program nationally at the moment of trying
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Speaker 5: to get as many Australians vaccinated as possible.
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Speaker 2: We're not wa though, we're not sort of you know,
16:43
Speaker 2: swimming in a surplus though, where we can afford to
16:45
Speaker 2: stay closed for a long period of time.
16:47
Speaker 3: I agree with you Keys, you're on.
16:49
Speaker 7: I like w A I shouldn't been.
16:52
Speaker 4: Ultimately, you know, the government is responsible for delivery of
16:55
Speaker 4: health services. Now, I think it's unfair to say that
16:58
Speaker 4: this doesn't impact on people's health.
16:59
Speaker 3: It does.
16:59
Speaker 4: The person waiting for a knee operation for eighteen months
17:02
Speaker 4: has now been pit postponed. That is a really significant
17:06
Speaker 4: thing in their life, you know. That is chronic pain,
17:09
Speaker 4: that is inability to be mobile, all of those things.
17:12
Speaker 4: So it's not okay to just fob off collective surgeries
17:15
Speaker 4: like it's people doing something for fun, you know, it's not.
17:18
Speaker 4: These are things they've been waiting a long time to do,
17:21
Speaker 4: often almost always because it's something very serious. So Code
17:24
Speaker 4: yealow is not something government can just brush away and
17:26
Speaker 4: try and push back on the department. No one's talking
17:29
Speaker 4: about the professionals. This is about government. It's about resourcing,
17:32
Speaker 4: it's about their strategic plan for supporting our health networks.
17:36
Speaker 4: It's got to come from the leadership at the top.
17:38
Speaker 4: No one's saying anything about the stuff. We're saying, what
17:40
Speaker 4: is your government doing it?
17:41
Speaker 5: Again, We've invested more in the health budget than any
17:44
Speaker 5: other government, opened up more bids than why.
17:47
Speaker 6: I just want to say that this is an issue that.
17:49
Speaker 5: All hospitals deal with and all health systems deal with
17:52
Speaker 5: from time to time. But again, give people the assurance
17:54
Speaker 5: that cod yellows are dealt with quite swiftly.
17:57
Speaker 6: You will see them dealt with generally within a matter
17:59
Speaker 6: of days.
18:00
Speaker 7: The question still remains, and I asked, I posed this
18:03
Speaker 7: question last time we went into a code yellow. Why
18:06
Speaker 7: are we in a code Well, merely, there's a lot
18:08
Speaker 7: of people presenting it.
18:09
Speaker 2: From what I've been and from what I am hearing
18:12
Speaker 2: see from people who work in that emergency department that
18:16
Speaker 2: it does come down to our mental health capacity in
18:18
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, that we do not have enough
18:20
Speaker 2: mental health beds, and I know that there is work
18:24
Speaker 2: underway in that space, but we've been talking about that
18:26
Speaker 2: for an awfully long period of time.
18:28
Speaker 7: I think Katie, also there's the issue and correct me
18:30
Speaker 7: if I'm wrong with Nicole of elderly people usually in
18:34
Speaker 7: the hospital because there's no beds in the age care home.
18:37
Speaker 7: So that's another issue.
18:39
Speaker 5: I think we have two areas that we have been
18:42
Speaker 5: working through and we're working through the funding arrangements. Of
18:46
Speaker 5: those is one opening up more age care beds, because yes,
18:49
Speaker 5: it can be very problematic when somebody requires age care
18:52
Speaker 5: and there is not enough beds. But we've worked closer
18:55
Speaker 5: with the Feds to get some more funding around that.
18:57
Speaker 5: And also, and because the federal governoral so provide age
19:01
Speaker 5: care beds in the nation, so we've secured some more
19:03
Speaker 5: work around that and mental health care. Yes, we are
19:06
Speaker 5: building new mental health facilities as well. That is an
19:10
Speaker 5: area that is growing and is and can be very
19:13
Speaker 5: difficult to manage.
19:14
Speaker 4: What about Parmeston Hospital, I mean people being diverted to
19:17
Speaker 4: go to the Palmeston Regional Hospital emergency. Has that ward
19:21
Speaker 4: that was shut down here was renal ward?
19:24
Speaker 6: Has that been reopened?
19:25
Speaker 4: Are we looking at doing some overflow capability at Palmerston?
19:30
Speaker 6: I mean yes, Do you have the wonderful gen ward there, Yes,
19:33
Speaker 6: which is very important.
19:35
Speaker 5: So every code yellow was looked at and the whatever
19:38
Speaker 5: the is looked at as being the best medical way
19:41
Speaker 5: to deal with it. To manage their and not compromise
19:43
Speaker 5: the safety and health of patients is how it's done.
19:46
Speaker 2: I know it's not your portfolio, Meatow, but do you
19:48
Speaker 2: know if that renal ward has reopened?
19:50
Speaker 6: I don't have the information here.
19:51
Speaker 2: We'll see what we can find out from the health department.
19:53
Speaker 2: We're going to take a very short break. You are
19:55
Speaker 2: listening to Mixwellow four point nine. It is the week
19:57
Speaker 2: that was also broadcasting on eighth in Alice Springs. You
20:02
Speaker 2: are listening to Mix one O four point nine. It
20:04
Speaker 2: is the week that was in the studio with us
20:05
Speaker 2: this morning, Nicole Madison, Kezy Apurican, Leophanocchiaro.
20:09
Speaker 3: Now we know that throughout this.
20:11
Speaker 2: Week there has obviously been quite a bit of quite
20:14
Speaker 2: a bit happening around the place when it comes to
20:16
Speaker 2: some of the issues around crime. Yesterday morning we once
20:20
Speaker 2: again heard from Shelley out there at there zicolei IgA
20:24
Speaker 2: pretty heartbreaking, I think every time we speak to her
20:27
Speaker 2: and hear about the issues that they've certainly been confronted
20:30
Speaker 2: with when it comes to really senseless crime. But we
20:34
Speaker 2: also know the Territory police have had a very busy week.
20:38
Speaker 2: A man has now been arrested in relation to an
20:40
Speaker 2: assault in Woodroff, which happened a little bit earlier in
20:43
Speaker 2: the week. So he was apprehended at an address in
20:46
Speaker 2: Palmerston and is now apparently being interviewed.
20:49
Speaker 3: By the police.
20:50
Speaker 2: This is after we were told early yesterday morning, around
20:53
Speaker 2: three am, a child woke her mother to tell her
20:56
Speaker 2: that a man had been in her room and assaulted her.
21:00
Speaker 2: True to fled the premises and the mother called the police.
21:03
Speaker 2: A little bit earlier in the week, I'd received a
21:05
Speaker 2: phone call from one of our listeners. He'd had two
21:07
Speaker 2: of his vehicles stolen in Rosebery and he had said
21:13
Speaker 2: to us, you know that the only window in the
21:15
Speaker 2: house that didn't have crim safe was the small window
21:19
Speaker 2: in the bathroom. Now we since found out that an
21:22
Speaker 2: eighteen year old was arrested in relation to property and
21:27
Speaker 2: violence offenses that were committed in Palmerston on Monday. Police
21:31
Speaker 2: alleged that this group of males age between nine and
21:34
Speaker 2: eighteen was responsible for five unlawful entries, two motor vehicle thefts,
21:39
Speaker 2: criminal damage and stealing from a residence in Gunn, Rosebery,
21:43
Speaker 2: Molden and Woodroff.
21:44
Speaker 3: Now the eighteen year old's also.
21:46
Speaker 2: Been identified as an offender in an aggravated assault on
21:49
Speaker 2: a bus in Palmeston Monday afternoon. Now I actually thought
21:53
Speaker 2: that he had been charged with that ring leader, with
21:59
Speaker 2: that ring leader legislation, But I don't know whether is
22:02
Speaker 2: one count of recruitment of a child man or is
22:05
Speaker 2: that regarded as that ring leader legislation.
22:08
Speaker 3: So it has been you know, it's been a pretty
22:11
Speaker 3: terrible week.
22:12
Speaker 2: And now there has also been some some further information
22:15
Speaker 2: that had come through about a stabbing at the woolies
22:19
Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. So, a worker in Alice Springs was
22:21
Speaker 2: allegedly stabbed in the stomach in the loading dog of
22:25
Speaker 2: woolworks on Thursday. So an eighteen year old man was
22:27
Speaker 2: arrested over the alleged incident a short time after it occurred.
22:31
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's safe to say that the
22:32
Speaker 2: police are working bloody hard to be able to apprehend everything.
22:36
Speaker 7: Working over time, and I was very diligently. Yeah, they're eligence.
22:39
Speaker 6: They always do an amazing job.
22:41
Speaker 3: But this thing.
22:42
Speaker 2: Look, the thing is, you know, Shelley said to us yesterday,
22:45
Speaker 2: it just feels like we're being overrun.
22:47
Speaker 3: We people who are doing the wrong thing.
22:48
Speaker 4: So yeah, because the government won't do anything about it.
22:51
Speaker 4: You know, our police aren't doing an exceptional job. They
22:54
Speaker 4: are out there every single day serving and protecting, keeping
22:57
Speaker 4: people safe. And what we've got is a government that
22:59
Speaker 4: doesn't want to tackle this issue head on. They've watered
23:02
Speaker 4: down laws and legislation, They've failed to tackle this issue.
23:07
Speaker 6: There's all this talk about.
23:08
Speaker 4: More investment and more this and more that, but you
23:10
Speaker 4: know we've got we've got more crime and that's not okay.
23:12
Speaker 4: You guys need to start putting victims and territori ines
23:15
Speaker 4: ahead of offenders, because you're entirely offender focused and it's
23:19
Speaker 4: people and being victimized who have to wear the consequences
23:22
Speaker 4: of your policy failures.
23:24
Speaker 5: Victims always come first, and that is why we're backing
23:27
Speaker 5: in police with record budgets, record numbers, making sure they've
23:30
Speaker 5: got the right legislative changes that they need to do
23:33
Speaker 5: their jobs.
23:34
Speaker 6: But some of those.
23:35
Speaker 2: About the police jobs, because they do a phenomenal job.
23:38
Speaker 2: It's been about the punishment when you are a you know,
23:41
Speaker 2: when you are someone who's committing a crime and trying
23:45
Speaker 2: to make it a deterrent, so they bloody well stop
23:47
Speaker 2: so again.
23:48
Speaker 5: And what I'll say is that there is no shortage
23:50
Speaker 5: of people who are in the jails, who are in
23:53
Speaker 5: youth detention, Katie. So we are making sure that we
23:56
Speaker 5: catch up with these individuals and that they do face
23:59
Speaker 5: swift and idiot consequences for their actions, because they should.
24:02
Speaker 2: Feel as though things are breaking down at the moment.
24:04
Speaker 2: I mean, even when you read through what I've just
24:07
Speaker 2: spoken about that's come through throughout the week, you know,
24:10
Speaker 2: stabbing in Alice Springs in the Woolies loading dock, and
24:13
Speaker 2: then you talk about that incident where you know a child.
24:17
Speaker 2: We don't know the age of that young person, but
24:19
Speaker 2: when there's someone in your child's room, I mean, I
24:22
Speaker 2: think that all of us listening this morning can agree
24:25
Speaker 2: that is your.
24:25
Speaker 5: Worst absolutely absolutely, But again, police are professional, They go
24:30
Speaker 5: through when they deal with that person, and they will
24:32
Speaker 5: face the consequences for their actions.
24:34
Speaker 1: Katie.
24:35
Speaker 7: You know, we sat in here week after week, time
24:38
Speaker 7: after time, year after year, almost it seems, and I
24:41
Speaker 7: remember saying that you know, it's going to be amount
24:43
Speaker 7: of time before people just get so frustrated or a
24:46
Speaker 7: person gets so frustrated they'll take the law into their
24:48
Speaker 7: own hand or even suggest doing that almost gets them
24:51
Speaker 7: into trouble.
24:52
Speaker 6: Yep.
24:52
Speaker 7: But my view is, in the view that I pick
24:54
Speaker 7: up for my constituencies, is that they feel there is
24:57
Speaker 7: there is a perception real or not, that there are
25:00
Speaker 7: no consequences except what you're saying, Nicole. People do get arrested.
25:04
Speaker 7: That's why people.
25:05
Speaker 6: There are plenty of people in.
25:07
Speaker 7: Whatever the crime is, and a lot of the crimes
25:09
Speaker 7: in our jails are assault involving alcohol and drugs and
25:13
Speaker 7: into that nature serious not so serious, a little bit
25:15
Speaker 7: of white collar crime not much, and don Dale's full
25:18
Speaker 7: and Don Dale is full because that's the end of
25:20
Speaker 7: the line. You know, they've tried everything with these young people,
25:23
Speaker 7: whether it be diversion or whatever. But there is a
25:25
Speaker 7: perception out there in the community that there are these
25:28
Speaker 7: young youth people. Youths with the word is believe there
25:32
Speaker 7: are no consequences. They believe there's no consequences. And that's
25:35
Speaker 7: the perception of the of the average punter in the
25:38
Speaker 7: rule here is that they're just getting a free ride.
25:40
Speaker 5: And we have changed the laws, like people are getting
25:46
Speaker 5: remanded and if they are getting bailed, then they're having
25:49
Speaker 5: to wear electronic monitoring devices or go into signis.
25:52
Speaker 6: They don't have to. They don't have to.
25:54
Speaker 4: It's just it's a suggestion under the laws that you
25:56
Speaker 4: brought in. It's not mandatory electronic monitoring. The reality is
26:00
Speaker 4: jail is a fool, but that's because there's more crime.
26:02
Speaker 4: It takes a lot to get a use into DONDLL.
26:05
Speaker 4: I mean, they have to be an incredibly serious, serious
26:08
Speaker 4: repeat offender to end up there, which means there's a
26:11
Speaker 4: lot of other people still out on the loose.
26:13
Speaker 6: And you know, violent offending.
26:15
Speaker 4: In the last year has hit astronomical numbers.
26:19
Speaker 7: Gary isl wasn't one of the attackers.
26:21
Speaker 4: There are endless numbers of violent offending and even you
26:24
Speaker 4: know the home invasion with that poor child, you know,
26:28
Speaker 4: I mean home invasions are now resulting in serious crimes
26:33
Speaker 4: and violent offending on other people.
26:35
Speaker 6: It's good to stop.
26:36
Speaker 4: There's got to be something urgent done by government to
26:39
Speaker 4: cut in here.
26:40
Speaker 6: I'm going to say that again.
26:41
Speaker 5: You feel for the victims, and we want to protect
26:44
Speaker 5: victims because they have suffered criminal activity. But I need
26:48
Speaker 5: to again have a look at what the historical data
26:51
Speaker 5: is actually looking at. If you have a look around
26:54
Speaker 5: Palmerston and Darlin around property offenses, they are down and
26:57
Speaker 5: they are down significantly. If you do have a look
27:01
Speaker 5: at assaults across the territory, that is the area we
27:03
Speaker 5: need to absolutely.
27:04
Speaker 2: Do a lot of Do you feel satisfied right now
27:07
Speaker 2: with the way things are going in the Northern Territory.
27:09
Speaker 5: I hate hearing any story where someone is a victim
27:13
Speaker 5: of crime. It breaks your heart and you want to
27:15
Speaker 5: do everything you can to assist those people. And that's
27:18
Speaker 5: why as Minister, I'm doing everything I can to give
27:21
Speaker 5: police the resources they need to give them the legislative
27:24
Speaker 5: backing they need to be able to do their job
27:26
Speaker 5: and listening to them about what makes a difference. But
27:28
Speaker 5: it's also about, as a police conference said yesterday at
27:31
Speaker 5: the NTPA, it's not just about police.
27:33
Speaker 6: They are not the fixed all for everything.
27:35
Speaker 5: It's about what's the work we can do with other
27:37
Speaker 5: agencies to make sure that they're doing their part.
27:39
Speaker 2: Of what I said at the conference, are the other
27:42
Speaker 2: agencies letting you down?
27:44
Speaker 5: No, I think they're doing a huge amount of work.
27:46
Speaker 5: But the issues in the Northern Territory are great. We
27:49
Speaker 5: do have the largest percentage of poverty and disadvantage, and
27:52
Speaker 5: they make and biggest issues with alcohol in the country.
27:56
Speaker 5: But we must never stop trying to deal with these
27:59
Speaker 5: and to because I've got to.
28:01
Speaker 2: Tell you honestly, we are back to the point where
28:05
Speaker 2: we're getting a lot of people contacting us each and
28:07
Speaker 2: every day about the issues that they're facing with crimes.
28:10
Speaker 2: You know, catching up with the gentleman earlier in the
28:13
Speaker 2: week who'd had both of his cars stolen. You know,
28:16
Speaker 2: one of them was his work car, the other one
28:18
Speaker 2: was his car that his wife had saved her money
28:20
Speaker 2: for and had just purchased. You know, I know that
28:23
Speaker 2: some people can say, all right, well it's petty stuff.
28:25
Speaker 3: You know, maybe it's not the end of the world.
28:26
Speaker 3: It is not petty.
28:28
Speaker 2: And I don't know where we go from here, because
28:32
Speaker 2: when you have someone like Shelley lay on the phone
28:35
Speaker 2: yesterday in tears again after being broken into again, you know,
28:39
Speaker 2: when you hear that there is a person in a
28:41
Speaker 2: child's room, you know, I think that we can all
28:45
Speaker 2: agree that's something and I don't know what, because we
28:48
Speaker 2: know the police are working very hard, but there has
28:51
Speaker 2: to be some kind of change here in some way
28:54
Speaker 2: to try and make our community feel safe and confident
28:58
Speaker 2: that there are consequences when people do the wrong thing.
29:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, and what I will say to people is that
29:02
Speaker 5: there absolutely are. There are swift consequences, There are immediate consequences.
29:07
Speaker 5: But that's why we need to invest more in making
29:09
Speaker 5: sure that we stop young people heading off in the
29:12
Speaker 5: wrong direction. If we can see that a family unit
29:15
Speaker 5: is not working well and they are entering into a
29:16
Speaker 5: life of crime, that we make the right interventions to
29:20
Speaker 5: you into trouble.
29:21
Speaker 2: That the government that you're part of right now, that
29:23
Speaker 2: you are doing enough in this space.
29:26
Speaker 6: There is always more you can do.
29:28
Speaker 5: But I tell you what, we are absolutely throwing everything
29:30
Speaker 5: at it, from the point of when kids are first born,
29:33
Speaker 5: that support around school, that support around families where kids
29:36
Speaker 5: are going off the rails, and investing in the other
29:39
Speaker 5: end when it comes to the prisons, our police and
29:43
Speaker 5: making sure that there are both.
29:44
Speaker 2: To listeners in Alice Springs today, for example, who are
29:47
Speaker 2: listening thinking, you know, look, we've had some poor bugger
29:51
Speaker 2: stabbed in the in the loading bay of the supermarkesh.
29:56
Speaker 2: You know who had a situation last week where there
29:58
Speaker 2: was a car driven through a co car park. Who
30:01
Speaker 2: are you know, battling with issues with breaking entries each
30:05
Speaker 2: and every day. What would you say to them who
30:07
Speaker 2: are just feeling as though they've had enough?
30:10
Speaker 6: We are working incredibly hard, you know.
30:13
Speaker 5: Any of these these crimes just completely unacceptable and we
30:16
Speaker 5: need to make sure we bring these people to justice
30:18
Speaker 5: because it's unacceptable.
30:19
Speaker 4: You know. I mean you mentioned before about you know,
30:23
Speaker 4: supporting and all this sort of stuff. It's like your
30:25
Speaker 4: government came into power and got on the wrong foot
30:28
Speaker 4: immediately and we are paying the consequences for that now.
30:31
Speaker 4: You know, you scrapped truancy officers with schools, you took
30:34
Speaker 4: youth justice out of corrections and put it into territory families,
30:38
Speaker 4: meaning that custody.
30:39
Speaker 6: Or oversight has been dealt with by a child protection.
30:42
Speaker 4: Agency inside Darndale instead of instead of corrections. You know,
30:46
Speaker 4: we've got this dismantling of legislation. We haven't dealt with
30:50
Speaker 4: the revolving door of bail. You know, you've disempowered police
30:55
Speaker 4: to be able to do their jobs and at tackle
30:57
Speaker 4: this issue exactly. You know all these I mean, you've
31:01
Speaker 4: been in the government for five years and more now, Nicole,
31:04
Speaker 4: for all of that, you've been the treasurer or the
31:06
Speaker 4: deputy leader. You know, this is people's lives. You know,
31:10
Speaker 4: it's their ability to get insurance, their ability to go
31:13
Speaker 4: to sleep at night, their ability to explain to their
31:15
Speaker 4: kids why it's safe or not safe. You know, it's
31:18
Speaker 4: just this is having such a profound impact and people.
31:21
Speaker 4: I spoke to a guy out on a boots and
31:23
Speaker 4: I won't say which one during this Daily by election,
31:26
Speaker 4: and he'd lived in that place for eighteen years and
31:28
Speaker 4: he said, I'm out, I'm moving next week or whatever
31:30
Speaker 4: it is. He said he'd voted Labor his whole life,
31:33
Speaker 4: and voted CLP because of crime and he's just sick
31:36
Speaker 4: and tired of it and gone, and we are losing
31:38
Speaker 4: fantastic territorians because they just can't deal with this issue anymore.
31:42
Speaker 7: You know, over the last two years, picking up what
31:45
Speaker 7: you've just said about the person who wants to leave,
31:47
Speaker 7: maybe I reckon. Over the last two years, I could
31:50
Speaker 7: name you about eight couples who've left the territory, and
31:54
Speaker 7: they're not retiring kind of levels, who've sold up for
31:58
Speaker 7: whatever reason and left the Northern Territory, partly because they're
32:02
Speaker 7: not comfortable here anymore, you know, like not so much
32:05
Speaker 7: in their own home, but just generally in the Northern
32:07
Speaker 7: Territory in the top end anyway, you know, going to
32:10
Speaker 7: the Casuarinas because it's such a bad image attached to
32:12
Speaker 7: that area now, or the shopping center. That's what they believe.
32:16
Speaker 2: Now.
32:16
Speaker 7: These are normal working couples, some have children, some don't.
32:20
Speaker 7: They have relocated out of the Northern Territory and partially,
32:23
Speaker 7: not exclusively, partially it's to do with their perception that
32:27
Speaker 7: the territory in the Top End is not a safe
32:29
Speaker 7: place anymore, and they don't want to be here, so
32:30
Speaker 7: they've taken themselves, their families, their incomes their energy, their
32:36
Speaker 7: efforts somewhere else, and it's varied where they go. Quite
32:40
Speaker 7: a few go to the Eastern seaboard, but not exclusively.
32:42
Speaker 7: Now that's just in my elector.
32:43
Speaker 6: And look at the lives of ours, see lots of
32:46
Speaker 6: we all know those stories. We all know those stories.
32:49
Speaker 7: Thought didn't have people.
32:51
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, they're not the only people looking at leaving the
32:53
Speaker 2: territory or looking at changing jobs. We heard through the
32:55
Speaker 2: police that police survey and their annual conference that we're
32:59
Speaker 2: also in a situation with our territory police at the
33:01
Speaker 2: moment where Paul Mchoue had revealed.
33:03
Speaker 3: On the show yesterday.
33:04
Speaker 2: And I know obviously at the conference that sixty percent
33:07
Speaker 2: of our police officers that took part in that survey
33:10
Speaker 2: are applying for jobs into state or are considering going
33:13
Speaker 2: into state. We know that sixty four percent of those
33:17
Speaker 2: that conducted that survey said that their morale was low,
33:21
Speaker 2: seventy seven percent said that they don't feel there are
33:25
Speaker 2: enough police, and eighty eight percent of those respondents are
33:29
Speaker 2: concerned about attrition.
33:30
Speaker 6: Isn't that Scarot?
33:31
Speaker 7: Let me jump in there talking about the anti police
33:35
Speaker 7: officers of whichever ranks A friend of mine recently participated
33:39
Speaker 7: in a federal police course to become a federal police officer. Yep,
33:44
Speaker 7: from up here. She wasn't in the empty police and
33:46
Speaker 7: she's just come back quarantined and all that sort of stuff.
33:49
Speaker 7: And it was a three month course. Now sixty Northern
33:52
Speaker 7: Territory police officers applied for that course. And now apart
33:57
Speaker 7: from her she's actually police officer from another juris, there
34:00
Speaker 7: were two anti police officers on that course with her.
34:04
Speaker 7: Now she knows this information because she's the ex police
34:07
Speaker 7: officer and what's to become a federal police officer. So
34:10
Speaker 7: a lot of anti police are looking to become federal
34:13
Speaker 7: police officers, which means they are not comfortable. Some of
34:16
Speaker 7: them might generally just want to improve their chances.
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Speaker 5: And I think different Commissioner Kershaw knows he gets the
34:20
Speaker 5: best cops in the Northern Territory.
34:22
Speaker 6: We can we can't disss this.
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Speaker 7: Card serving police officers applied to do that three month course.
34:28
Speaker 6: It's terrible.
34:29
Speaker 4: We tried in Parliament a couple of months ago to
34:33
Speaker 4: have a parliamentary inquiry into why police are leaving. We
34:37
Speaker 4: know that the government aren't really doing proper exit interviews
34:40
Speaker 4: and that police don't feel confident to even participate in
34:44
Speaker 4: those exit interviews, and that we're not understanding clearly why
34:48
Speaker 4: police are leaving the force. Now, Nicole, you've said a
34:51
Speaker 4: number of times, Oh, it's because you know, moving into
34:53
Speaker 4: state is so attractive at the moment. Yesterday we heard
34:55
Speaker 4: at the conference a new reason which I hadn't heard before,
34:59
Speaker 4: which was people don't have enough opportunity to do remote postings.
35:04
Speaker 4: But ultimately, the government don't know why people are leaving
35:07
Speaker 4: because they're not collecting that information. And if we don't
35:10
Speaker 4: keep that attrition rate down, we're not going to be
35:12
Speaker 4: able to pump up people through the college. It's just
35:14
Speaker 4: we have to be listening to our police and understanding
35:17
Speaker 4: what they need to get your typees.
35:19
Speaker 3: We are going to have to go to a bright We.
35:21
Speaker 5: Do listen, we do understand the reasons why people leave.
35:24
Speaker 5: But the thing I want to stress is that we
35:25
Speaker 5: do have the very best police officers trained and ready
35:28
Speaker 5: for the job here in the territory. People do actively
35:30
Speaker 5: recruit them from interstate, but we also have a hell
35:34
Speaker 5: of a lot of people who want to join the
35:35
Speaker 5: Northern Territory Police Force, and we've had over two hundred
35:38
Speaker 5: constables this year that will graduate through the college and
35:40
Speaker 5: we have got record numbers. There are plenty of people
35:42
Speaker 5: putting their hand up to be part observing and protecting
35:45
Speaker 5: the territory.
35:45
Speaker 2: We're going to have to take a very short break.
35:47
Speaker 2: You are listening to Mixwallow four point nine is.
35:49
Speaker 1: Three sixty Mixed Oneow four point nine three sixty, the
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Speaker 1: week that was the most listened to our in Territory Radio.
35:57
Speaker 2: You are listening to Mixwallow four point nine's week that
36:00
Speaker 2: and in the studio this morning leofanocchi Aro, Keziapuric and
36:03
Speaker 2: Nicole Madison. Now, a topic which absolutely got our listeners
36:07
Speaker 2: very fired up yesterday is that of the Territory Wildlife
36:11
Speaker 2: Park and concerns that the Territory Wildlife Park is well.
36:16
Speaker 2: I guess it started with the COLP claiming that it
36:19
Speaker 2: was going to be closed down. Now we did have
36:21
Speaker 2: the Minister for Parks and Wildlife, Selena Rubau, yesterday confirmed
36:24
Speaker 2: that's not the case. But then that discussion really turned
36:27
Speaker 2: to it being quite underfunded, and we caught up with
36:30
Speaker 2: the zookeeper who has been with the Territory Wildlife Park
36:33
Speaker 2: for twenty years.
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Speaker 3: He's now retired.
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Speaker 2: Greg Mayo, but he said that he had concerns that
36:37
Speaker 2: the Monsoon Forest Walk, as well as the Dough Avery
36:40
Speaker 2: and the Buffalo Trail and the Rocky Ridge were all
36:43
Speaker 2: speculated well.
36:44
Speaker 3: To close this month.
36:46
Speaker 2: I understand that there has been an update in this
36:49
Speaker 2: space from Overnight Ye, So I just want.
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Speaker 5: To assure people the Territory Wildlife Park is absolutely not closing.
36:56
Speaker 6: It is a beautiful, beautiful.
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Speaker 5: Park, great family attraction, great tourist attraction, Katie, it is amazing,
37:04
Speaker 5: but we have seen tourist numbers decline, particularly with the
37:07
Speaker 5: COVID environment. So we are going to be injecting nine
37:10
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars into the park to make sure that
37:13
Speaker 5: we are supporting them with their exhibits, particularly through COVID.
37:17
Speaker 5: But I want to assure people it is not closing.
37:19
Speaker 5: There are no plans to close it whatsoever, and we're
37:22
Speaker 5: certainly not going to go down the old Colp route.
37:25
Speaker 6: When they tried to privatize that.
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Speaker 2: It's a hundred thousand dollars payment COVID one off payment
37:30
Speaker 2: is that is that federal funding or territory funding.
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Speaker 5: Will be using it through the Northern Territory government. It
37:37
Speaker 5: is a Northern Territory Government Park. It is a Northern
37:39
Speaker 5: Territory public asset. It is a wonderful part of the
37:43
Speaker 5: Northern Territory. It does important work around research and preservation
37:47
Speaker 5: of the environment, around our animals and our habitats.
37:51
Speaker 6: So it's absolutely here to stay.
37:53
Speaker 5: But we're certainly never going to go down the path
37:55
Speaker 5: of shutting it or privatizing.
37:56
Speaker 3: It like those exhibits o bit.
37:59
Speaker 5: Yes, it will keep the exhibits open. It is important
38:03
Speaker 5: to see that it has had a rough year. It
38:06
Speaker 5: has been rough because of COVID and visitation pressures on it.
38:10
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but what has happened here is labor have
38:12
Speaker 4: been busted in its tracks. You might not be closing
38:15
Speaker 4: the park, but you absolutely are gutting it. You are
38:19
Speaker 4: firing people. We've had two t three positions gone. The
38:23
Speaker 4: EMUs are already gone, the dingos and buffaloes are going.
38:26
Speaker 4: The monsoon for the resting no, no one has ruled
38:31
Speaker 4: that out. Yesterday you had a political epiphany because this
38:34
Speaker 4: is bad news for you ahead of the daily by election,
38:37
Speaker 4: where you've now said, quick, we need to get some
38:39
Speaker 4: money as a band aid. But this is temporary one
38:41
Speaker 4: of funding. It doesn't go to long term sustainability of
38:46
Speaker 4: the park or valuing the staff and the people out there.
38:49
Speaker 4: We have had so many people come and see us,
38:51
Speaker 4: people crying about what labor are doing to the wildlife.
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Speaker 6: It's just great. We're not trying to offload it like
38:58
Speaker 6: you guys Worth.
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Speaker 3: In government for five thousand lass, so that that.
39:04
Speaker 5: Is the payment that's going to get us through a
39:06
Speaker 5: month next year and it's making sure that we do
39:10
Speaker 5: have a sustainable budget there because we need to keep
39:12
Speaker 5: it open, we need to keep the exhibits open. The
39:14
Speaker 5: Territory Wildlife Park is a really fantastic place and we
39:18
Speaker 5: support it.
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Speaker 6: Katie.
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Speaker 7: I think there's one park or wildlife park reserve in
39:22
Speaker 7: Australia that actually makes money.
39:24
Speaker 6: I stand they don't make money now there's one in Australia.
39:27
Speaker 7: Most anything dealing with feeding of animals or feeding of humans,
39:30
Speaker 7: it's very easy to lose money and waste money. Anyone
39:34
Speaker 7: who's got a farm knows all of this sort of stuff,
39:36
Speaker 7: and anyone's got a restaurant knows this kind of stuff.
39:38
Speaker 7: But you know the focus should be on Most wildlife
39:42
Speaker 7: parks or zoos and things of that nature are about conservation,
39:45
Speaker 7: education and research, the tourism and the engagement with young
39:50
Speaker 7: people in schools is almost like a byproduct. But even
39:53
Speaker 7: then that's part of the research and the education. So
39:56
Speaker 7: I mean, this park has had a long history and
39:58
Speaker 7: a very good history. It's a given. It's a given
40:01
Speaker 7: that you know with COVID and the turndown of tourism
40:03
Speaker 7: that you know, places like that. Crocodiles has also suffered.
40:06
Speaker 7: I reckon the one in the mall smith To wherever
40:09
Speaker 7: it is is also suffered, you know, the Crocodile Place Allo.
40:11
Speaker 7: All businesses have suffered, especially the ones based who need
40:14
Speaker 7: the travelers and the visitors. Locals alike, like we can't
40:17
Speaker 7: go and visit the wildlife park if we're in lockdown
40:19
Speaker 7: and it's it's a family place. I too have been
40:21
Speaker 7: approached by a lot of people extremely concerned because they
40:24
Speaker 7: have young.
40:24
Speaker 5: Fmal plans, family plans to come out.
40:31
Speaker 7: Really commit to this park.
40:33
Speaker 4: Call it this is a one off band aid payment.
40:36
Speaker 6: You know what I want to know?
40:37
Speaker 4: The labor for Daily actually works as an advisor for
40:41
Speaker 4: Selena Eubo, the Minister for Parks, So what did he
40:44
Speaker 4: know about this plan to gut the part? That's what
40:47
Speaker 4: I want to know he was in that office, but
40:50
Speaker 4: you don't know about it, and again tried to this
40:56
Speaker 4: is a secret plan to gut the wild life part.
41:00
Speaker 4: It works, wunning the part you've got eaten.
41:05
Speaker 6: I have had people who work.
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Speaker 3: We are going to talk further about this. I'm just
41:12
Speaker 3: going to turn those mikes down a little bit.
41:14
Speaker 2: We are going to talk further about this with Great
41:16
Speaker 2: Mail a little bit later this morning. Look, we're going
41:19
Speaker 2: to take a very short break. You are listening to
41:21
Speaker 2: Mix one O four point nines three sixty.
41:23
Speaker 3: It is the week that was Mixed one or.
41:25
Speaker 1: Four point nine three sixty, the week that was the
41:28
Speaker 1: most listened to our in Territory radio.
41:31
Speaker 3: Well, it is just a few minutes away from ten o'clock.
41:34
Speaker 2: Nicole Madison, Kezy Epurican Leofanochiaro all in the studio with
41:37
Speaker 2: us this morning. And we do know that the Daily
41:40
Speaker 2: by election this weekend, and it seems as though the
41:43
Speaker 2: voter turnout so far in some parts of the Daily
41:47
Speaker 2: electorate quite high. A total of two three hundred and
41:50
Speaker 2: forty three votes have been cast so far out of
41:53
Speaker 2: the five thousand and seven one hundred.
41:54
Speaker 3: And six electors.
41:56
Speaker 2: And I'm not one hundred percent sure where exactly the
42:00
Speaker 2: majority have voted at this point in time. But I
42:03
Speaker 2: know that there has been a real push in the
42:05
Speaker 2: likes of what I to try and get locals out
42:07
Speaker 2: there voting.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so it's going to be an interesting one, there's
42:12
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.
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Speaker 7: So you've got you'd have poor Keats, what are you'd
42:17
Speaker 7: have River, you have Peppi, you have Plumba, you have
42:19
Speaker 7: in your Point, you'd have all those areas. They've all done,
42:21
Speaker 7: remind freak.
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Speaker 4: But the real issue is though the Electric Commissioner reporting
42:26
Speaker 4: that people in the rural area haven't had a strong
42:30
Speaker 4: a voter turnout. So this is an important opportunity for people.
42:33
Speaker 4: If you live in Darwin, River, Berry Springs, Bachelor or Woggite,
42:36
Speaker 4: you can vote maybe until six pm at Burry Springs
42:39
Speaker 4: and Caller Linger, but she's taken on the weekend and
42:41
Speaker 4: you can vote tomorrow obviously at your local polling booths.
42:46
Speaker 6: But it's an important election, you know.
42:47
Speaker 4: This gives people an opportunity to go out and vote
42:50
Speaker 4: and stop Michael Gunner getting any more power. He's spent
42:53
Speaker 4: twelve million dollars on his Dodgy Grandstand deal thirty five
42:56
Speaker 4: million for use criminals. He's forgotten about the Bush and
43:01
Speaker 4: candidate christ A Strong.
43:05
Speaker 3: I don't usually allow the political you know, it is
43:09
Speaker 3: a political show politics.
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Speaker 5: So what I say is that it's going to be
43:16
Speaker 5: a hard seat for us to win because in history
43:19
Speaker 5: no government has taken a seat off opposition in a
43:22
Speaker 5: by election.
43:23
Speaker 6: But this will. This is a choice for the people
43:25
Speaker 6: at daily.
43:25
Speaker 5: Do you want a government that's going to keep you safe,
43:27
Speaker 5: that's going to keep backing you in investing in housing,
43:30
Speaker 5: in roads and the things that you need.
43:32
Speaker 6: It's also going to be a big test to your leadership.
43:33
Speaker 5: Leader, you put yourself front, you.
43:40
Speaker 6: Don't build on that margin.
43:41
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what we already know that Steve Njington
43:44
Speaker 5: and Chris can.
43:48
Speaker 4: Your government calfish believing in people in the bush.
43:57
Speaker 7: Michael, I'd like to hear from the labor candidate. I mean,
44:00
Speaker 7: I've read stuff on Facebook and he was asked a
44:04
Speaker 7: question by the chairman of Timymin College what his view
44:06
Speaker 7: is and was because a lot of students come from
44:08
Speaker 7: down Rivern Berry Springs, what his view is on the
44:11
Speaker 7: need for school based constables college like term in college
44:14
Speaker 7: and he hasn't even answered. Now the two independents have
44:17
Speaker 7: answered as best to understand what I've been reading. I'm
44:19
Speaker 7: not sure about the c LP yet, but that's a
44:21
Speaker 7: critical issue in regards to the Rule Air. The Timimin
44:25
Speaker 7: College been the only public college and a school. So
44:28
Speaker 7: there's nothing about labor and that there's nothing about from
44:31
Speaker 7: the labor candidate in regards to key issues in the
44:33
Speaker 7: Rule Air, particularly Berry Springs with their water management issues
44:36
Speaker 7: and the fact that that aquifer is always put under
44:38
Speaker 7: pressure every every dry season. You know, So it's fine
44:42
Speaker 7: to say, you know, the labor government's been doing all
44:44
Speaker 7: these good things about COVID. That's a given. All state
44:47
Speaker 7: premiers have been doing good.
44:47
Speaker 6: Things about five years.
44:50
Speaker 7: Giving what this labor candidate from New South Wales is
44:54
Speaker 7: going to do for the good people have done River
44:56
Speaker 7: and Berry.
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Speaker 5: School place policing. Unlike the SALPA, they've done a Darwin century.
45:04
Speaker 5: We're back and people under gang.
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Speaker 3: We've run out of time.
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Speaker 2: Lea Finocchio, the opposition leader, thank you for your time
45:11
Speaker 2: this morning.
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Speaker 4: You go out and vote rural area vote one. Chris
45:13
Speaker 4: Sivitree for a strong on my team to tell this
45:16
Speaker 4: gun game man, all right.
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Speaker 7: I'm just going to do a plug for the Sun
45:22
Speaker 7: of the district's network.
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Speaker 2: Nicole Clarison, the Deputy Chief Minister, thank you.
45:30
Speaker 5: I just want to make a few statements remembers in
45:34
Speaker 5: the Grand Finals tonight.
45:36
Speaker 6: Network shout out to the Time the Fieries. Thank you
45:39
Speaker 6: so much for the work you did in your head.
45:41
Speaker 6: You did a great job. Yeah it was good guys.
45:45
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time This morning you
45:47
Speaker 2: are listening to Mix one O four point nine. I
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Speaker 2: apologize were a bit late for the National News