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Seahawks vs Broncos NFL DFS Showdown | TNF Week 6 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamblyn here, a.k.a. Toe Tagging Tambo, back for another
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  Speaker 1: edition of Showdown Shippers here on the Shipping Nation YouTube station.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Thursday night football. We've got the Seahawks at
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos. And no way the Broncos could play good here, right?
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  Speaker 1: But the spread is still just two and a half,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lower total. So we'll get to all
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  Speaker 1: that when we go through the captains. We'll go position
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  Speaker 1: by position, talk about roster construction, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: fan duel. At the end, got title, got hoop, hoop.
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  Speaker 1: Bring you in, man. We got Broncos, Seahawks here. Another
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  Speaker 1: good one to kick off week six.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, a good one for the NFL and
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  Speaker 3: good football teams and maybe just sitting back watching the
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  Speaker 3: game for actual fantasy purposes, not the greatest.
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  Speaker 2: Give me the Jets over these teams.
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  Speaker 3: Give me the Cardinals over these teams for fantasy purposes.
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  Speaker 3: For actual DFS, this isn't great. I mean, two of
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  Speaker 3: the more difficult teams to kind of project. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we have one obvious team. stud in the game jsn
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  Speaker 3: but outside of that it's a bunch of who knows
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  Speaker 3: so uh curious to see what you guys have to
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  Speaker 3: say about it when we break it down but it
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  Speaker 3: is a difficult one but these are the ones where
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  Speaker 3: you can kind of find some sort of advantage edge
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  Speaker 3: you know leaving salary on the table is probably something
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  Speaker 3: uh good good to do tonight uh this is one
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  Speaker 3: of those slates at the end of the night the
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  Speaker 3: team that wins is for showdown could look pretty damn ugly.
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  Speaker 3: And so you probably want to build teams accordingly. So we'll,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see when we go through it all.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's why I said a good one. Cause you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I only care about the fantasy aspect of it.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: later title that it sucks. If it's just JSN captains
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  Speaker 1: everywhere at the top, you know, cause obviously Puka had
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  Speaker 1: a huge night the other night. It means JSN, the
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  Speaker 1: Sertan news, like all the stuff came out. It's the
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  Speaker 1: perfect storm to have a 30% plus owned JSN captain.
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  Speaker 1: It could keep going up, but just noting that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: It makes it really easy to get overweight on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these other guys. And will they work?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to try and find out myself. How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? And you know what the chat
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  Speaker 1: wants right out of the gates, man. They said one time.
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  Speaker 1: We got a three-something brew crew. You got us covered
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  Speaker 1: on the F-bomb or what?
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  Speaker 4: No, not going to do it yet. And, hey, it's
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  Speaker 4: never over until it's over. We've seen baseball. Very few
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  Speaker 4: in sports. But, yeah, Red Sox, Yankees. And if there
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  Speaker 4: was ever a team to come back 3-0, it could
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  Speaker 4: be those Dodgers. So I'm not saying it yet. But, man,
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  Speaker 4: it's been cool to watch the Brewers. just play the
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  Speaker 4: game right way. Murph's the complete stud hit and run,
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  Speaker 4: bunt them over, play small ball the way that baseball
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  Speaker 4: was made way back in the day. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they didn't do it the long ball year and they
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  Speaker 4: have started in the playoffs. Bowers, some sick, sick at bats. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: but ever all these, and I'm a huge Brewer fan,
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  Speaker 4: all this, everyone's celebrating right now. We're not even in
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  Speaker 4: the world series yet. Like you can beat the Dodgers
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  Speaker 4: and lose next round. And it's still a bus at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the day. So we got to, We
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  Speaker 4: got to tamper it a little bit. It's far from over,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, playoff baseball has been great. I've enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm on your side for this one. I think
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  Speaker 4: a two good real life teams, but I think this
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  Speaker 4: is a phenomenal DFS late. Cause yeah, it's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of unknowns and unknowns is good in a single game,
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  Speaker 4: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We've seen a lot. I mean, we're only five
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  Speaker 1: weeks through and we've seen a ton of these solo
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  Speaker 1: shippers up top or even like, you know, 128 K
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  Speaker 1: 138 Ks, whatever. You know, the other night I know
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  Speaker 1: people were tagging me in the third quarter like again,
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  Speaker 1: just reminder showdown doesn't end till like literally two seconds
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  Speaker 1: left in the game things can change for big numbers
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  Speaker 1: but it just shows like the type of way that
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  Speaker 1: I would play right 88k is what the score that's
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  Speaker 1: not if it's going to be a winning night it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a good night that's what I can
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  Speaker 1: say so this is the type of slate we can
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  Speaker 1: see that that's what gets me excited for but hoop
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you first for the grand scheme
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  Speaker 1: overview I just teased it off the top because all
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  Speaker 1: the articles and posts and everything out there says like
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nix sucks um Sean Payton didn't do shit and
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  Speaker 1: all all this stuff by the way is true through
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  Speaker 1: five weeks like nothing really happened and has went well
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  Speaker 1: for the Broncos but why is the game just a
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  Speaker 1: two and a half spread here you know that you
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  Speaker 1: got the Seahawks the defending Super Bowl champions etc etc
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  Speaker 1: so give us your grand scheme overview on it and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll break it down from a DFS perspective as usual.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I mean The total is low. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: total is 40. So, I mean, the Broncos can still
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  Speaker 3: win this game. It's basically a coin flip, and it'd
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  Speaker 3: be a low-scoring game, which the total indicates sitting at
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  Speaker 3: right around 40. And I guess the one thing with
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos is this isn't just like a this-season thing.
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  Speaker 3: They've been pretty difficult for fantasy purposes dating back to
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  Speaker 3: last year as well, and they continue to mix in
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  Speaker 3: a lot of different guys. a lot of different pass catchers.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just look at their box scores. You see
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  Speaker 3: like five or six guys that have rushing attempts.
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  Speaker 2: You see seven or.
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  Speaker 3: Eight guys that end up catching passes on any given game.
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  Speaker 3: It just happens a lot. So it makes it pretty
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  Speaker 3: difficult for fantasy purposes. On the Seattle side, it's been
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  Speaker 3: basically all JSN and whichever running back is healthy and playing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the one nice thing, about Seattle at the
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  Speaker 3: running back position. Emmanuel Wilson has had 20-plus touches in
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  Speaker 3: back-to-back games. Like, he's getting a ton of work, and
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing to definitely take note of when building
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  Speaker 3: teams tonight because you want guys that.
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  Speaker 2: Are going to get the volume.
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  Speaker 3: And Emmanuel Wilson stands out to me as a guy that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because of his price, probably comes in– his
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  Speaker 3: ownership will come in check because he is 9,400– If
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  Speaker 3: you play him in the captain, I don't have that
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  Speaker 3: price tag in front of me, but it's 14-1. People
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  Speaker 3: aren't going to feel comfortable really clicking on that, but
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  Speaker 3: he's getting a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of work.
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  Speaker 3: It's a difficult game to project where the fantasy points
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  Speaker 3: come from just because of the uncertainty. Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: on the Denver side specifically, I know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people had high hopes for like, you know, Shahid this
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  Speaker 3: year and best, I always kind of relate it to
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  Speaker 3: best ball because you can kind of see where people
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  Speaker 3: were projecting these guys. And a lot of people were
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  Speaker 3: taking Shahid earlier than I thought. He's a gimmicky player
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  Speaker 3: and he continues to be a gimmicky player. He's not
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  Speaker 3: going to be a seven catch for a 70 yard
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  Speaker 3: sort of guy, but this is a slate where I
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  Speaker 3: think you find your advantages in building teams and going, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I have, Jalen Waddell in here at 9K. Well, instead
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  Speaker 3: of Jalen Waddell at 9K, I'm just going to go
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  Speaker 3: down and take the Broncos defense for about half the
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  Speaker 3: price and just leave that extra salary on the table.
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  Speaker 3: Like those are the sort of things you should be
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  Speaker 3: looking to do. Like the projections on these guys fall
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  Speaker 3: off a cliff after the main guys. You look at JSN,
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  Speaker 3: we have them at, you know, 21 and a half
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  Speaker 3: fantasy points. Darnold, you know, between fifth, well, we've got
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  Speaker 3: them at like 17. Bo Nix, 15. And then you
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  Speaker 3: go down to Emmanuel Wilson around 12. Then it falls
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  Speaker 3: off to Waddle. And then everyone else is under double digits.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where you can really make these big, drastic
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  Speaker 3: drop-offs in terms of swaps and just leave the money
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  Speaker 3: on the table and kind of get unique this way.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't a slate where you want to, in my eyes,
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  Speaker 3: fill out the salary and take it all up. You
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  Speaker 3: want to leave chunks. You want your team to look
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  Speaker 3: ugly when it's all said and done and just feel
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  Speaker 3: very Confident in the fact there's going to be something
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  Speaker 3: weird on the winner and people are going to look
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  Speaker 3: at it and be like, oh, that looks nasty. So
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  Speaker 3: that's how I want to build my teams tonight. The
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  Speaker 3: captain conversation is obviously going to be difficult because there's
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  Speaker 3: one guy in this game that stands out. JSN, absolute stud,
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  Speaker 3: one of the top three wide receivers in football, probably
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  Speaker 3: been the best this year. Like everyone's going to want
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  Speaker 3: to click that name and rightfully so. But the big
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  Speaker 3: question is, what do you do after that? Unless you
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  Speaker 3: just go all in and say it's a JSN night.
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  Speaker 3: If you feel confident about it, say it's a JSN night.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be the optimal captain. Give
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  Speaker 3: me every combination after that. I'd be fine with something
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  Speaker 3: like that. But if someone's playing 150, you probably want
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  Speaker 3: to spread it out a little bit more. So the
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  Speaker 3: big question is, what do you do after JSN?
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  Speaker 2: That's the easy click.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to hear, Tidal, when we get to it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you start off, Captains, with this thought. But
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  Speaker 1: I had somebody the other night for the DFS Mastermind
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  Speaker 1: Roundtable say, can you tell me how I played 150
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  Speaker 1: Puka Captains and lost money? And it was almost break-even.
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  Speaker 1: They were into the minimax. They had $ 75 in. They
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  Speaker 1: got $ 66 out, I think. So it was like they
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  Speaker 1: were pretty much break-even. on the night, but I will
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  Speaker 1: say this and every slate's different. Like Hoops said, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of options you can go to on this one,
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  Speaker 1: but what happened with them is essentially with all the Puka,
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  Speaker 1: it meant, you know, very little Stafford, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: like Stafford in the flex, obviously, but I mean, overall
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  Speaker 1: on the grand scheme, didn't have any of that. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: have Williams, didn't have much Devante. Like you ended up
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  Speaker 1: needing a lot of that stuff packaged together, plus mixed
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  Speaker 1: with the other side. And they were just way underweight
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  Speaker 1: and they were more on the stars, scrubs and nothing
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  Speaker 1: up the middle. So it's, How are you thinking about
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  Speaker 1: the cap?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just to add onto that point. Cause I know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people have frustration with stuff like that. It's
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  Speaker 3: very common in, in showdown. Like if you don't, if
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  Speaker 3: you're playing one 50 and you don't have the winner,
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  Speaker 3: you're probably losing money. That's just how it goes because
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  Speaker 3: all the chops up top. So like, if you don't
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  Speaker 3: have the winner, it doesn't matter. Like you're probably going
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  Speaker 3: to lose money. That's just the nature of the game.
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  Speaker 3: If you are one 50.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. And again, that's where people think like,
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  Speaker 1: as we say it all the time, you in the
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: golf DFS streets, I always try and bring it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit to there. It's my roots, but just noting it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going to play Scottie in 100% of lineups. Great.
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  Speaker 1: But you need to fill out the five other spots.
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  Speaker 1: And what if the value plays all suck this week? Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's why the flip side of it when people are like, well,
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  Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler needs to win at that price. Well, no.
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  Speaker 1: What if the 9K and 10K guys suck and all
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  Speaker 1: the value guys crush? He could come fifth and you
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  Speaker 1: could still have some great lineups. So how are you
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: handling JSN is how I'll start at title. And then
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you get to the other captains you want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, but just that JSN thought it could be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've got them 30 to 35 range right
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  Speaker 1: now for captain.
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  Speaker 4: I'll probably at least be with that or over the field.
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  Speaker 4: I think I can get different enough in the flex.
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  Speaker 4: I was a Sunday night. I was like 85% Bijan.
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  Speaker 4: And lately I haven't one 50 and I've been doing
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  Speaker 4: like 75 to 85 today. I think I'm going to
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: do more. We'll see if I get to the full
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  Speaker 4: one 50. It's just really hard for me to, to
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  Speaker 4: be on, like take a significant underweight stance and, on
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  Speaker 4: someone projected so highly. And then it really comes down
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  Speaker 4: to just, all right, who are my other options if
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  Speaker 4: I don't go there? Sam Darnold? Well, all right. How
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  Speaker 4: is Sam Darnold optimal without JSN captain? Cupps got to
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  Speaker 4: catch one. Barner's got to catch one. Maybe JSN has
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown, but doesn't get the bonus. It feels like
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  Speaker 4: when Darnold fully gets there, a lot of it is
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  Speaker 4: through JSN. Now it is possible, but it's harder for
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  Speaker 4: me to see. Emmanuel Wilson, he's by far my second favorite.
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  Speaker 4: He leverages some off of JSN as well, but Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the opportunities have been great for him. Now, Helwani's definitely
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  Speaker 4: in the mix too. Both of those guys are on
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  Speaker 4: the field. They both fumbled last week. But Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 4: has the second best touchdown prop on the slate, plus 120.
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  Speaker 4: JSN's plus 100. The next best is plus 205. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm just looking like these receiving props, JSN in a
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  Speaker 4: tier of his own, supposed to have over 90 yards.
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  Speaker 4: After that, no one's expected to have over 50 yards.
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  Speaker 4: Waddle's close at like 46%. And then you get Sutton
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  Speaker 4: and all these guys 35 and below. So it's really just, man,
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard to click for me another name at
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  Speaker 4: captain that's not JSN and Wilson. I would say the
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  Speaker 4: two favorites after that for me are, I guess, three.
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix, A.J. Barner, and Jalen Waddell. Barner is playing
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  Speaker 4: every single snap at tight end. He has fully taken
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  Speaker 4: over that role. For his price, you get on a
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  Speaker 4: different roster construction. Only 6,300 at captain. You can leave
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  Speaker 4: money easier with him. And yeah, I mean, his touchdown prop,
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  Speaker 4: He's one of the best– hold on. Receiving prop is
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  Speaker 4: number four on the slate behind JSN, Waddle, and Sutton.
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  Speaker 4: He's ahead of Shahid, ahead of Cooper Cup and all that.
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  Speaker 4: And his touchdown prop is plus 290, which is like
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  Speaker 4: six on the slate. So I think he's an underpriced
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  Speaker 4: player in the flex and captain. And I'm willing to
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  Speaker 4: take some shots up there. Bo Nix because he can
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  Speaker 4: spread it out more and he has some rushing upside.
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  Speaker 4: But then I go and I see he's 12% owned
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  Speaker 4: up there. And if I'm going to be overweight, Wilson
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  Speaker 4: and JSN, which is already chalky, I don't really want
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  Speaker 4: to be overweight Bo Nix that much, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: love him. Then Waddle stands out at only 6% and 9K.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised, I guess, if it comes up
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, but it's hard for me to make
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  Speaker 4: too many cases for guys on the slate, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to tell myself I can get different enough in
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  Speaker 4: the flex, build better lineups. I'm playing JSN. I'm playing
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  Speaker 4: Emmanuel Wilson. From there, probably Barner, my third favorite. Waddle,
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  Speaker 4: Nix are fine, but I still might be underweight because
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  Speaker 4: they're getting ownership after that, so not too many hot
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  Speaker 4: takes over here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just got the stone updated here on our side.
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  Speaker 1: So shout out to the team getting it up and
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  Speaker 1: ready for us with the optimals. We've seen higher than
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  Speaker 1: this still with like a Gibbs slate and a Bijon slate,
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  Speaker 1: but it is almost, what is it? 85% give or take.
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  Speaker 1: And that's with captain and flex for JSN. That projection
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  Speaker 1: is just far and away out there. I'll kick it
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  Speaker 1: over to you on this. I mean, the other night,
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  Speaker 1: how many targets did Puka get? Like, I think he
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  Speaker 1: was getting 20 catches almost in that game. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember the exact targets title.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like it was 22. I'm going to look though,
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  Speaker 4: but I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You guys talk about, I'll find it. 24, 17
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  Speaker 4: on 24. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: 24.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 1: I was just looking back though. Like I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to think about that and it's, I know it's not
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: all related. I talk about it all the time, hoop
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  Speaker 1: where it's like a Sunday night football game, a five,
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  Speaker 1: one wins. And then what happens on Monday night, five
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  Speaker 1: ones go create, like everyone's in on five ones. That's
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  Speaker 1: not the case. Like people are going to be on
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  Speaker 1: JSN no matter what, but we did end up getting
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  Speaker 1: a perfect storm. It's like the projections far and away.
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  Speaker 1: He just, his props, everything. He's the best guy on
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  Speaker 1: the slate. You don't have certain on the other side,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a opportunity just to play him with all
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  Speaker 1: the values can make it work. But realistically, he doesn't,
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  Speaker 1: he has big games. This is JSM we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm saying it's like a three touchdown game, a
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  Speaker 1: two touchdown game to get to those 38, 45. Puka
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  Speaker 1: got 24 targets, right? You're seeing the highest targets for
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  Speaker 1: JSN in the last year and a half is 14. Now,
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  Speaker 1: could they pepper him just as much? It's possible. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying it at least makes it somewhat interesting when
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you're thinking about some of the other positions, because even
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: if you're at the field or above on this guy
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: and you still have six percenters, three percenters, four percenters
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: at running back ones and wide receiver one positions for
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. On the other side, Emmanuel Wilson looks to
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: be one third at the captain and could just be
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a running game. Could be him instead. So what are
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on the captain and start with JSN? I
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: guess any other thoughts on how to handle him here?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, the clear, just alpha guy on, on the
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: slate in this game, you know, devil's advocate is, okay.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: I just feel so much better about these situations when
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: it's a running back opposed to a wide receiver or
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: a tight end where it's like, they're still relying on
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: somebody else to get them the ball. They're still relying
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: on the offensive line to block for the quarterback. Like
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: there's other obstacles. I think there's a more, let me
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: put it this way. There's more clear path for wide
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: receivers to bust in the spot. I think then running
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: backs who are almost, you know, guarantee like the, uh,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: gibbs and bijans who are guaranteed to get like you
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: know 25 touches and they're just going to do something
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: eventually so they're if you want to make a case
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: against it i'd feel more comfortable doing it with a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: wide receiver opposed to a running back but with all
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: that being said like it's easier again in other games
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: to make the cases where we have other studs like
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: in that rams and bills games like okay you don't
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: like this guy that looks bulletproof then you got josh
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: allen you got Kyron Williams, you just have a plethora
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: of options here. It's like, if you don't go JSN heavy,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: like where are you going? Right. So I think for
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: me personally, I still like the overweight stance. I mean,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: just seems very likely, like you said, 85, if you
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: want to, I guess if you want to take like
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: an overweight and underweight stance on this, I'd prefer to
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: do it in the flex, right? Like maybe go super
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: heavy in the captain and then, you know, maybe lighter
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: in the flex for me personally, um, I want to get,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: I think, as much as I can, and I plan
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: on being over after him.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I kind of already alluded to it a little bit.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson will be my number two, and I think
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: you kind of touched on it as well, Tambo. It's like, okay,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: if JSN does not have this spectacular game, you got
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson who's getting 20-plus touches a game and just
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: getting all this work.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Could he get three rushing touchdowns? Yeah, we saw it
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: about a couple weeks ago. I don't know. Was it
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: three or two? He had a bunch of touchdowns. I
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: think it was two.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Someone can back that up. Do you guys know off
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: the top of your head? Was it two or three
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago?
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He had the big game. Now I'm
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: kind of curious. Two.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I know it wasn't three.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Two touchdowns.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: He ran one in and caught one.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: So yeah, like that would be the case you make
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: maybe against JSN. Maybe it's Emmanuel Wilson. So I like
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Wilson up top. And then on the Broncos side, it's,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it's tough. I mean, it's very tough. And like, if
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: they weren't playing Seattle, who I think has arguably the
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: best defense in the league, I would be more willing
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to take chances on Waddle, Sutton, Dobbins, guys like that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Seattle's defense is just so good. And then you got
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: this defense, you got this offense who really hasn't done shit.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: They're playing, they're what three and two, the Broncos. So they're,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: they're winning games, but their offense hasn't done shit. Like
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: this does not seem like the spot where they start
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: doing shit.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So, um, I'm fine with Knicks.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I think he could take off a little bit more
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: in this spot. You're going to get a lot of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: pressure from Seattle, so maybe he takes off. He hasn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: ran a ton this year, but we've seen it in
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the past, and one rushing touchdown goes a long way
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: for these quarterbacks, so it would be Bo Knicks. I
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: guess for me, it's going to be consolidated up top,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: like JSN, Emmanuel Wilson, and some Bo Knicks, but I
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: definitely prefer the jsn and emmanuel wilson stuff hope the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: ownership stays relatively.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Low uh what do we have.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Uh wilson in the cap and we have him right
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: around 10 and that's probably where it ends up and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: i think that's a fair number i'd like to be
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: over that over jsn and then you know some some
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: bow knicks i guess i'd be fine with but don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: feel great about it like i said i'd like to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: make the case and and you know tambo maybe you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: can make the case for some of these other guys
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: you've done a good job of identifying this stuff in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the past, but I'm struggling with it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: So it's like those three and I don't really know
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: what else.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So I'll say this. It's definitely hard to make a case.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to be selling people tonight,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: but I don't, they might not be buying what I'm selling,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: but I will say it's easy for me to play
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: this way and just not care. And if it doesn't
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: work out, move on to the next slate that I'll
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: definitely be underweight on JSN only because he might actually
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: still be my top own captain. Cause it could be
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like 25% on him, but then I spread out, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I can't let this other stuff go. Like the Seahawks
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: just automatically win. Someone talks about it. Like I, Seattle
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: D is stunk. I don't, I don't think they're a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: bad team at all, but we could have like five
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: weeks of flop, leg on these Broncos finally hit. They're
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: just two and a half dogs. Like it doesn't even
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Like I think they can
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: win this game. So when you've got Bo Nix, JK
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Dobbins and Jalen Waddle for a combined ownership of essentially the,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: 20% on those three. It's like, you can, I can
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: get 10, 10, 10 on all of them. Just fine.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: And do that. Like, I think Bo Nix can spread
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it out. He's got Waddle Sutton, whoever you want to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: pick to fill in the spot, your boy, little Jordan
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Humphries on the slate, by the way, hoop. So we've
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: got to talk about that and see what happens with him.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But Ingram is over there. They've got options. They throw
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it to Harvey. You know, there's Dobbins getting touches now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So that's the next theory. And oh, no, no quarterbacks
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: run on this. Like, great. If neither of them do,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: then why? Then it's great. Then there's less to contend with.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Only so many guys run on this, like Wilson, Dobbins.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And then like Hoop said, it's a, it's a wide
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: receiver up top. We know why JSN is the top
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: captain and everything that goes with it. But I like Dobbins.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: If they're, if you flip the script of the game
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and they are just winning it, he's been getting the carries,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the touches, all that stuff. He can work out. He's 12,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: six in the captain. Waddle, I'm just flipping the build.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's the opposite wide receiver one, or what should be,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: we'll see, and you can play him. So I really
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: like those three the most on Denver side. On the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: other side, I think title brought up an interesting one earlier,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and I'll go into it further. But Barner, if you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just jam Barner, Darnold, Knicks, and JSN, you can fit
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it easily, by the way, then I get it. That's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: going to work out and look really good and probably
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: score really well too. They all should get tons of opportunities.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And we said it earlier, there's nobody really on the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: slate with great projections outside of Darnold, Knicks, Wilson, and JSN.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The rest are pretty mediocre. after that. So, um, you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: can put waddle in there, I guess, whatever it Dobbins,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: but the point being, you almost be able to fit
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: all those with a balanced build. So that's the one's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: hoop where I would want to leave the money, right?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: If you're, if you're doing that and you've got the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: remaining money to fit these two really good balance guys
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and spend 49, seven and think that's different with a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: burner captain, I'd be looking to leave a couple thousand, 3000.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You can still have a really nice lineup that makes sense.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Tells a story, plays some of these guys that you'll
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: hear us talk about when we get to position by
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: position and go from there. The other side, it is tough,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: but you know, Barner, I just mentioned Wilson. I talked
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: about earlier and then the ugliest one, I think of all,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: but it is interesting, especially if you look at the stone,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think Darnold is the more interesting quarterback to me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And I will even do it in some lineups where
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I fade JSN and the flex just because you can,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but Darnold, We saw a game like this last year,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and it's nothing to do with this game. Last year's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: game is not this year's game. But I think it
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: was the game Horton got injured after he got a touchdown, though.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So it was like Horton already got a touchdown. Arroyo,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: who we'll probably talk about later, got a touchdown. They
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: were just bombing it out to everybody, and that was
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the way you could see this go. So I definitely
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: have interest in Darnold. He's full leverage.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: He's he's the 14, 7 to 17, 4 on JSN.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: You could play JSN in the flex or not. And
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: then you could also have the guy that would really
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: hurt JSN. And by the way, it didn't fully work
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: out the other night, but Stafford was up there in
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of lineups. Still, it was getting close near
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the end of that game, even with the crazy Nissa Puka,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: where there was still lineups that could have won. with
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Stafford up there. Obviously Puka went off, but just saying it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I could see a spot here for Darnold
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: as well. So I'm definitely spreading it out a lot more, but,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and feel very comfortable doing it. But mainly it's just because,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, to title's point, usually he always says the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: same thing. And it's a great point is once you
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: go underweight on that big dog, you can get overweight
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: on all those other guys. So when you get almost
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the perfect storm of that, it feels nice from, for me,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: from a portfolio perspective to say like, I'm not just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: playing everything, but I'm, I'm leveraging everything. And in a meaningful,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: realistic way, that's how I would think about it. So title,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you got any other thoughts there on, on captains or
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to add?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. Like game
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: theory wise and all that, why it's a little harder
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: for me, just like break, like Harvey and Dobbins are
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: kind of in a split. I'm looking at, I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Denver can easily win this game. I think they can
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: win the game by 14 and JSN similar to like
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: when I won with worthy, when they got absolutely destroyed.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I think JSN is, can be captain in a two
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: four Seahawks lose by 14, but because it's so much
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: more spread out on that side, maybe Dobbins gets one
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Sutton gets one Harvey gets one, whatever, but Oh, JSN
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: went 11 for one 20 and some was garbage time.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I just think there's, it's a lot. I mean, the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: reason they're getting a lot more ownership, it's a lot
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: more certain that they're going to JSN is going to
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: get the most targets. Wilson's probably going to lead the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: game in a rushing attempt. So more safety, but that's
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: coming with ownership and yeah, when you win, how much
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you win. So, again, I love this slate. I'm, I'm
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: going to be mixing in some of these random guys
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: down there too, but I know most people aren't listening
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: that are playing 150 teams. So we try and make
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: more of a stand when we talk about it, but yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: just know what your goal is. Like you said, you're
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: up there for 88,000, but in the third quarter, like
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I had a buddy up that scorcher guy who I
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: talked to, he's, he sent me, he was a part
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: of your chop. He sent it to me. I'm like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: you're better than this man. Like a, it's, it's two
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of the best offenses too. Like it's not the fricking
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Jets Browns in a 30 total. Like that's a different
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: ball game. Like there's a lot more points that are
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: going to be scored.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Jets Titans in my, a buddy of mine texted me.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, buddy, I would feel, I was like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: maybe if it was like the Jets Titans or something,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't even, the only reason
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I even know is because people tag me and send
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: it to me. I'm not looking then to worry about it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about it. My takeaway for those
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that were sending again, I appreciate the support. Obviously I want,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I want to win it too, but, It's like, it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: so early with those teams, but it just all, I'm
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just showcasing that it's when I win, I, it's going
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: to be like that. It's not going to be, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: often like I'm not going to be in that 12
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: K chop the other night or two K on fan
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: duel or something. Like, I think I was in for
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: more on fan duel than first place. God, I know
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: that's not, again, you win more prizes too, not just
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the one prize to cover all your buy-ins, but it's just,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be common for me to be
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: involved in that stuff. Now I want to ask you
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: this transitioning to quarterback. I know it's big boy here.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: It covers your whole face and I'll take it down
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in a second. But Adam said with a low total,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: are you comfortable? And this is why when we go
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to quarterback in the flex, we're talking about this. He,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: so he's saying, are you comfortable playing lineups with neither
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: quarterback in say a Wilson captain lineup and then just
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: leave a bunch of salary for sure.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, Sam Darnold's not running. It's been really
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: bad for Bo Nix. What if both teams just want
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: to pound it in the ground, take the air out
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: of the clock and, full point PPR side, it's a
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: lot easier. So DraftKings a lot more than FanDuel. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely fine with it today. A lot easier, like
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: you said, on lower total games than higher total games.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to Hoop on the same question and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: then let Hoop go first at quarterback. If he has
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: anything else to add between Darnold, Knicks, and he, you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't as high on them up top, obviously, but in
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the flex, you know, it makes a ton of sense for,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: especially if you've got JSN, Darnold in the flex, et cetera.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: But Hoop, your thoughts on that same question and how
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you build it out like that?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. And It's from our guy, Warehane, who made
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a nice run in the Survivor, I think it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the main contest last year. So hopefully things are going well. And, yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: it's fine. I mean, definitely fine doing that today.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: It's just, like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: it's just some ugly, random-looking team that wins it at
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: the end and no quarterback on a slate like this
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: where there's not much to really– spend up on or
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: spending up and feeling comfortable with, like I'd be fine
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: doing it. In terms of the captains, like, yeah, I mean,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: in the flex, you know, the case obviously for them
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: is they're going to, if it is a low scoring
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: slate and they end up with even like a floor.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Game of 10 or 12, like this could be, it
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: could be enough.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, the total sitting at 40 and a lot
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: of people think it goes under that. So like, you know, 10,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: 12 fantasy points could be, A lot on the slate.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's only five guys projected above 10. So
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: even floor games for the quarterbacks are likely to be
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: needed in this game. And, you know, kind of whatever
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I get, you know, in terms of Darnold and Bo Nix,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I'd be fine with.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, nothing, nothing, nothing crazy here.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I was going to add that second part. Like I said,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you could see it for sure where it doesn't end
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: up being needed, but also you could see the flip side.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of people avoid or build in rules for
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: no quarterback versus the defense and stuff like that. Like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: on a slate like this, on any slate, I'm fine
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: with it. I don't want to rule myself out of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that anyway. But on a slate like this, the quarterbacks
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: just project far and away against even their outside guys,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: their receivers, their tight ends, all that stuff that you
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: could have Seattle dominate with a Wilson captain, the Seahawks defense,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: and Nix is still, he runs one in from the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: one yard line and he has enough. going on that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: he just exceeds the guys that can't catch the ball
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: or can't get anything going. And you could still see that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: So I would be, I would be playing the defenses
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: against quarterbacks tonight still and be just fine with those
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in the lineup as well. Um, title kick is you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: for anything at quarterback in the flex or just any
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: build thoughts when it comes to that stuff. You talked
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: about like the two, four with JSN. I know to
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: kick off the season, I had a, I had a, the,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the tie for ticket number one for FFWC that I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: ended up losing. That was a JSN price. lineup, no,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: no Darnold. And then it had four guys from the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: other side. So could you see something like that again
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: tonight as well?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean, so many of Darnold's dropbacks
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: go right to JSN and yeah, like Coop said, like
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you might see 10 on the winner for quarterback, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: in the flex, but if I was, if I knew
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: that both quarterbacks scored 10 points, I'd have zero. Cause
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: when you win without them, like you have a lot
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: better chance to get a, to get paid greatly. So yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: right now I'm thinking I like Darnold more in the flags,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix, less. And that kind of goes back to,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I'm playing a lot of JSN at captain. So it
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: is really easy to go JSN, Darnold flex. You can
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: get different enough spots in my opinion on this slate
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: with the other four spots, but yeah, I'm fine having
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: some JSN captain, no Darnold. I always, I mean, naturally
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: you're going to get a good amount of quarterbacks in
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: the flex, but by no means would I make a
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: rule like you're saying.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I will say too, just a final note, then I'll
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: kick it back to you for running back title, but Um,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of Darnold in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: flex tonight because it's gonna be a lot of JSN
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in the cap tonight. I know it seems obvious to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: put it out there for people, but that's another thing.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So any, any chance that you're under on Darnold is
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it could be good overall in a way, if that,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't go that way or work out that
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: you'll be feeling better about that. Cause most people are
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: going to be sitting there with that regardless, right? Once
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they have their JSN captains.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Up top.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: This was the best guy. Again, keep throwing your questions
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: in there, guys. If we find really good ones like this,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it's always nice to have them for each position as
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: we go to it. So title, I'll kick it to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you first, then let you just take us into running
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: back as a whole. But it says, because Dobbins Harvey
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: are so game script dependent, would you be likely to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: play max one per lineup?
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Most of my lineups probably will have that. If I
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: was playing like 20 or less and you're trying, I
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: talked about it in MMA more and stuff, like you
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: try and make that script like what you actually think
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: is going to happen. You make more stands. Yeah, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: probably would make that rule. The more teams you make,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I forget what slate it was, but I've grouped myself
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: out of things in the past and really tilted myself
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: because if those two are in the winning lineup together,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: there are a lot less dupes you are going to
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: see together. And how would Dobbins and Harvey work? Maybe
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: they just get out 14-0. We saw Blake Corum get
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: a one-yard touchdown. Then Kyron got one later. What if
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Dobbins got a long run, tired? There comes Harvey in.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: And then you just got six from them both because
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Dobbins had a great drive and Harvey that way. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: especially with how bad Bo Nix has played this year,
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: maybe Sean Payton does just want to pound the football.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: So by no means, if you're playing like 50, 60
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: plus teams, the reason you're playing all those teams is
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: to have a bigger portfolio and do crazier things. But yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is a split. Most of the time,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: it's probably not going to work out. I like Dobbins
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: more when you think Broncos are ahead. And I like
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Harvey more in closer games or in their trailing. It's
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: just the natural thought process. But both are going to
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: be on the field. And again, on a lower scoring game,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: maybe 12 from Dobbins and 10 from Harvey is enough
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: for them both that way to make it more appealing.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I like Harvey more than Dobbins personally today, but it
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: really comes down to the price tag. $ 8, 400 is a
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: big price. It's pretty close to the quarterbacks. JSN's expensive.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: The props aren't that great. Again, they're splitting. So any
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Dobbins team, I can go right down to Harvey. So
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Dobbins probably my least favorite, just looking at the ownership,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Emmanuel Wilson. I like Helani. Both are rotating in like 4,400
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: for a guy that's on the field quite a bit.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: He had a really bad fumble last week, but they
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: still went back to him, catch the ball out of
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: the backfield. I think both of them are strong and
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I definitely would be fine. It's a lot easier to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: play Wilson Helani together than Dobbins Harvey due to the
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: prices and just the pass catching ability for Helani. After
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: that though, like, Tyler Batty is 1400. Again, if you're
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: playing all a bunch of teams, he's like a Davis
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Allen play. It's not a sexy click and won't get
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: there often, but if it does, he's very low on
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: and you can jam in studs. But yeah, don't love Dobbins.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: He's probably my least favorite of that bunch.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: That's the thing about the Broncos. They got these randoms, right?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Like you talked to him and I think it's like bidet,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Tyler bidet.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: They got him, they got Adkins, they got Mims, they
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: got Franklin, they got all this shit going on where
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, it makes a case for Knicks, I guess,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but it's also tricky to figure out when you're looking
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: at it from the other perspective. The other thing I'll
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: say is like, you said something interesting, like it's 13-8.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: for Holani and Wilson. It's 14-8 for the other side,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: but it's just way more realistic to see the Seahawks
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: side happen and the way they work them in and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the way the game flow could go in that. But
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: there is something to be said for like the Dobbins-Harvey stuff.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, if it was going to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: be both, I think it would be somewhat interesting because
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you have the setup where like if Dobbins scored early
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and that's what you would expect. Okay, fine. The Broncos
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: are going to do this, but then it comes back
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the other way. And you're like, damn, now it's all
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: of a sudden it's 21 to seven in the third
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: quarter and it becomes Harvey time. Well, that's how the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: two of them could end up. So I would just say,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out. Again, however many lineups you have,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it's probably not going to happen to you where you
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: get both when you've got 20 lineups or less, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in your full portfolio, if you are playing more lineups,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: definitely not something I would rule out on this slate.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: The other thing you said, and then I'll kick it
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to who would be that I actually love is whether
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you have the 8,400 left or more or not, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: being able to drop down as one thing, but even
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: if you didn't have 8,400 and you just had 6,500,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying the more interesting thing about Harvey is is
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people like to play,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: especially if it's like a JSN 5-1 construction, I don't
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people like to play a running
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: back as the one. I know that people know he
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: can catch passes. Like, well, he's kind of this too.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I get it. But I'm saying people are way more
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: likely to play a Waddle, a Sutton, a Harvey, or sorry,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: an Ingram, even a Knicks if they had the money
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: somehow to be like, well, at least he spreads it out.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And if he gets to the goal line, it could
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: be that. They don't seemingly love to play running back
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: on the one if you're running a 5-1 and whether
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: it's Barner up top JSN whoever your Seahawk is just
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: my point you should be able to find a way
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to afford a guy like Harvey and I think we
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: saw was this was it the San Francisco game I'm
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: gonna try and pull it up here right quick Harvey
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Harvey Harvey he was the San Francisco game I was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: looking at it earlier yeah 10 targets in a game
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: where they were down And I think they only scored
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: 14 points in the game, but they had to come
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: back and he was just getting all the targets there,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: different game, different setup, all those factors, but just, he
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: could still fit into that mold quite easily. And he
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: could end up being the guy that gets all the receiving.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: So hoop, I'll kick it to you. Anything at running
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: back that you got?
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, literally in full lockstep with what title said,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: like what he said is exactly what I was going
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: to say. Emmanuel Wilson, RJ Harvey, Kalani, Dobbins of those
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: four Dobbins, my least favorite. And then what a baddie
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: bidet booty, whatever the hell his name is. It just
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it's the slate. Like I'm playing guys
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: like that. When I have four or five studs that
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I want to play for, like, uh, you know, last game,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Puka, Devante Adams, like there's all those guys.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: So even if he goes out and duds, it's fine.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Cause you've got all those studs. Like, uh, on this
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: slate though, we just don't have the studs. So I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: don't think there's, there's room for, uh, bidet baddie booty
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: guy so he's out but it's wilson harvey helani dobbins
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and gonna play it like that all right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Take us into wide receiver then we've got a couple
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: of different ways we can go here but like i
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: said there is some value guys that are being mentioned
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: on this slate specifically uh tory horton for the seahawks
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: is getting talked up a little bit and then on
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the other side you've got troy franklin mims your boy
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: little jordan humphrey um any any thoughts here So.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: On the Seattle side, I mean, it is interesting because
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: we've talked about how there's just not a ton of
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: options on the slate. Well, the prices now have come
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: way down. You have JSN, tier of his own, nothing
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: else to add there, stud on the slate. But Rashid
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Shahid is $ 3, 600. And we talked about it last slate with,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I think it was Blake Corum, like just needs one touchdown.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think he ended up, was he on the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: optimal when it was all said and done? I don't
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: think so, just because all those guys went off.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I think Higby, Ty Johns, I don't know if he
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: fully got there.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: So he's like right there, obviously.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: You didn't hate having him.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Like it was a plus play for sure. And these
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: guys are now priced where, especially in this game, with
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: a 40 total, it's like if they do anything, it
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: might be needed. So like Shahid at 36, Cooper Kopp
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: at 32, and like all these cheap wide receivers, if
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: you are playing the Sam Darnold captains, Like this is
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: where you play these guys. And you can say the
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: same on the other side with the Denver cheapies and
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: even more so probably on the Denver side because they
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: do spread it out.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Like I said, if you look at this, the.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Box scores from Denver, there's a ton of guys catching passes.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: So they're going to have some opportunities. We're playing a
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: showdown slate where it could be low scoring one play
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: and boom. So, you know, the cheap guys I'll talk
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: about on Denver first, Troy Franklin, Mims, And even, you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Will Jordan, you know, I want to keep all these
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: guys in the player pool, especially if you are playing
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix captain.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And then same thing for the cheap guys on the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Seattle side. Better if you're.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Playing the Sam Darnold captain stuff that Tambo kind of
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: talked about in the opening. The tricky plays for sure
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: are like, what do you do with Jalen Waddle and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Cortland Sutton? Because they're still getting ownership because you're going
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: to have salary to spend on the slate.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Waddle's 9K.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Sutton is 8K. And ownership-wise, Sutton is coming in at 26%.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Waddle's coming in at 32%, and they've done absolutely nothing
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: all season long. I think I still want to be
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: under on them. I think I want to use these guys,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: the Waddles and the Suttons. When you build a team
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: and you have enough to go to them, just make
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a pivot way below, like a few thousand. I like
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: them better in Bo Nix.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Captain teams, right?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Like, so if you are playing the, and I do
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: plan on playing Bo Nix captain team. So in these teams,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that's where I do want to use Waddle and Sutton.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: But outside of that, if I'm building a team and
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I end on these guys, I think this is the
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: perfect situation just to leave a shit ton of money
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: on the table and go down. You can even do
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: it within the same team.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Like if you end up on Waddle and Sutton, you
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: can just go down to Evan Ingram at 4K. Like
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the odds are there.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: For Ingram to, outscore these guys like Ingram actually was
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: their best pass catcher last game so that's kind of
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: how I want to use those guys good playing them
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: in Bo Nix captain teams but if you are hand
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: building and you end up in this range where you
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: have enough for Waddle or you have enough for Sutton
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I think this is the perfect example on the slate
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: just to come all the way down and leave a
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: big chunk of salary on the table. And it can
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: be a very big chunk of salary on the table.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: A lot of people just fill up the lineup and
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: finish it. As you can see, Waddle is coming in
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: with 30%.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: To 40% ownership.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Sutton's coming in probably between 25% and 30% ownership.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: So those are the kind of moves, I think, on
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the slate that I'll be looking to make.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'll get to you in a sec there title, but
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we'll get to this as well. Andrew kickers outscore everyone.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Under them there.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And there's a thing tonight where you could see that, man. These,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I think actually, and I'm skipping ahead, but the kickers
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: do have projections that are very similar to some of
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: these wide receiver twos.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: They got, they got a little boost as well.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. So we'll, we'll see, but title,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: what do you got here at the wide receiver position?
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like, Waddle Sutton, like these guys naturally, Shahid, like
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: you're going to have them in your stuff. I'd be
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: lying if I said I really loved any of them
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: at the price. I actually do like Troy Franklin, though,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: quite a bit. Like he stepped into the web since
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Pat Bryant got hurt, that brutal leg injury in week four.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: He went in and was the wide receiver three, almost
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: played as many snaps as Jalen Waddle, actually. So I'm
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: just trying to find guys. And Shahid, too. It's been
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: bad for him, but like he does have that big
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: explosion stuff. Who's cheap in the 3K range that could
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: outscore Cortland Sutton in the vacuum? I think Shahid and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Troy Franklin are two guys that could do it. So yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: even though they're getting some ownership, it's hard to love.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Props don't love any of these guys. But yeah, you're
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: forced to fill out a roster, and these guys naturally
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: are going to fall in. When you play Darnold and
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: you play Bo Nix, they work better, but I do
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: think Troy Franklin, Shahid... I mean, Cooper Cupps, he's going
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: to be on the field. These guys are going to
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: be in an ability to leave money off of kickers, defenses,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: tight ends a little bit. So I don't love it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I don't hate it. Mims is on the field. Lil
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Jordan's on the field. Horton's on the field. Just a
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: little bit, though. And like Coop said, it's not a slate.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: We don't have the bad days of the world. And
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: these guys, I don't think four is going to be
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: enough today.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: But it doesn't feel like it just because we don't
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: have four or five studs that are going to score
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: 25 plus like we did on Monday.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's more of what you said of like the, like,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I actually really liked that Franklin call at three K
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you know, Shahid's 3,600, but I think like Horton instead
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: of one of copper Shahid or, you know, Franklin instead
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: of Sutton and it's 5,000. I'm not just saying their best.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Wide receiver got hurt. That sucks as well. Pat Bryant
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: is their best wide receiver on that squad. Like that's,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's better than waddle Sutton. He's the man
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: sucks to see him go down.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: He's definitely very good. I think Waddle has capabilities still.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: We just have to see them. I know we were
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: watching the preseason and things like that, and we were
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: at the big guy event. We're like, oh, there's Waddle.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: He's going to be good this year. Look at him
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: at this game, and it's preseason. It means nothing. I'm
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: just noting that you would have expected to see a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: little bit more out of these guys. It feels like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: it's waiting to happen. There's going to be one of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: these games at some point. So I just think, you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's critical how you're building the lineups, but to what
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, like the captain leads down to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: what you're doing in the flex. You know, I'm more
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: likely with a guy like Waddle. I want to see
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: him either have that game or not. It's just, the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: problem is, you know, going back to you title, this,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: this setup is like, you know, you're plugging these guys
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: in the flex just because you got the money and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you can, if it's a JSN captain, you know, it
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit trickier, I guess. But even then,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's like, they could just outscore like a waddle nine
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: could still be good. You don't know till we, till
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: we know later on the game, but that ain't no
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: good at captain. And it's like, it doesn't even feel
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: good at flex if I knew that, but it's also,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: that's only like two and a half points under his projection.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So it's not like he's way off. So it's really,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: really tricky to tell that beforehand, but I would just say,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you gotta be building it accordingly. I like that Franklin call.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I think all the backups to JSN are interesting, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: only because, like I said earlier, I'll have Darnold in
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the captain and stuff. So having Shahid, Kopp, Horton, Arroyo, Barner,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: those guys being mixed into my flex. Um, it's going
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to be based off of that stuff. So just how
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I build, but I think it's, it's more interesting on
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that than trying to figure out the Franklin Mims, Humphrey,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: et cetera, over there. I probably just to, to what
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: hoop talked about earlier. It's a good segue. I'll go
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: back to you, but I'd probably be more inclined on
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the Denver side, just to default to Ingram right there.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: He's 4k. It's like, uh, you know, his ownership's middling.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: It's very similar to that of cup. It's probably less
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: than Shahid, uh, Torrey Horton. You're sorry.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Torrey Horton is a 2,400. So it's like, you need,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you could always use the savings there, but yeah, I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: feel better about Ingram. Talk to us about this tight
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: end position.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's strong with the, the two main guys, right.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I'll say that like Ingram at 4k.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, and I think it does.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Cause I think it will, because there are a lot
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: of cheapish sort of options.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: We talked about all those wide receivers. I think it
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: will hold.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player at 4k offense.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: It's kind of been struggling. Like how do you, how
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: does a quarterback usually get things going? It's like, you
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: find the tight end and he had a solid game last.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Week was what? Four for 55. So four targets for
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: four catches, 55 yards, only.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: 4k ownership under 20%. You know, he's probably one of
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: my favorite overall plays on the slate. And then I
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: really like Barner on the other side. I mean, if,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: if cup and Shahid don't get it going, like this
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: is probably their number two wide receiver, uh, after jsn
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: and he's only 4200 probably will have more ownership than
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: than ingram uh he's showing like right around 20 so
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: like for a showdown slate 20 is low on right
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: like in my eyes so i like both these guys
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: a ton and then you know similar to.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: The baddie bidet guys.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Like man like i just need more than like a
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: couple fantasy points tonight so i don't really want to
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: play any of these scrub tight ends. So I want
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: to focus on Barner, Ingram, feel good about both. And,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: you know, to me overall, when I look at this slate,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: you know, probably the strongest position, you know, maybe outside
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: of the kicker to talk about next, but I love
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: these tight ends.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Barner and Ingram, 20%, probably 20% or lower on both.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Great plays in my eyes.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Man, these sites that just break their shit. Like, I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: trying to use Bet365, I'll call him right out, to
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: look at some props. I know Tidal's already got them
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: over there. I could have just went to our boy. But, like,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: they'll show the first five guys for Anytime Touchdown, and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: then you click Show More, and they make you pick
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: by name who you want to see. Like, it always
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: just used to be, like, give me the whole list
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and let me compare and look at these things. But
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I want to see the Anytime Touchdown. on arroyo that
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing somebody mentioned here about oracle our
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: boy oracle said adkins for the broncos at tight end
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: leads them with uh leads with um two tds so
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: you've got these guys like that and we just talked
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: about how a nine might end up being good in
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the flex it's like well if you get a touchdown
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: for one of those guys you could be in good
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: shape but at least we've seen arroyo do it before
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: he's a beast out there i think he's possible but
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: he again 600 bucks i don't know it'll probably be
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: more in jsn captains that you see it i'd be
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: looking to play him in some of your non-jsn captain
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: lineups just as a way to get different it's got to.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Be the most criminal market in like all of sports
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: betting anytime it's just such robbery so arroyo is was
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: he 10 to 1 to score a touchdown plus 1000
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: like that's that's wild that is insane.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Someone else has it over here plus 800 like these
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: are not that's insane.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Troy Franklin plus 750 to score a touchdown. These are
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: like– this should be criminally– this should be investigated.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Someone needs to be prosecuted immediately.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: This should be fraud. This is like fraudulent activity from
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: the sports books. Like this is insane. Jordan– little Jordan
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Humphrey is 16-1 to score a touchdown.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Like that is, it's crazy, but somewhere, somebody is in
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a group chat right now, fired up with a little
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey. Anytime send it to their boys with a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks on it, being like, check this shit out boys.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: He hits tonight, big 1600 bucks. And I get it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, that is the return. That's the math, but it's, yeah,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that's not, that should not be the odds on that happening. But, uh,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I think someone said, yeah, In sports, you do get
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: a quick sweat right out of the gates. In a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: game like tonight, though, my man, you might be waiting
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a long time on that sweat.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Hopefully not.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: We get some scoring, but you never know when you
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: get these low total games like this how it's going
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: to shake out. By the way, this... The best of
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: all time. Hall of Fame shit.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Mike Evans.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans. And when you got a trash talker like
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Richard Sherman coming out of the woodworks saying, oh, my God,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I wish I did that back in the day. That
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: is the most disrespectful, most amazing way to punk someone
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: off that you could ever do. When he flips somebody,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: who am I looking at? Who's talking to me? And
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: it's Diggs. I just thought it was funny.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: That is too good.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: That was the most funny thing I've seen on a
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: football field.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Field like that was crazier did you see Evans interview
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: after this guy goes in and acts like it wasn't
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a thing like he just was doing I kind of
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: had to just figure out who he was he's like
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure who I was it's like no man
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: that's even better that he just goes in and plays
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: it off like that just too too good and when
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: evans is healthy side note just showcasing how good he
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: can actually be it's just can he stay healthy that's the.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Problem that's the problem he's never healthy so he never
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: gets to fully see well.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: He is though he's one of those guys you got
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to play him early and often if you're playing them
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: because it's uh it can all go downhill downhill quick
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: i was gonna say just to finalize the tight end
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: here though um the other interesting thing hoop is 200
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: bucks let ingram's very similar. I think people like Barner
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. I know our ownership shows it's pretty
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: close tonight amongst them, but I don't know, maybe title you,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: you look at this stuff a ton too. Like what,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you think it can get
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: steamed on Barner and Ingram could just hold tight or
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: moonwalk a little bit because more people want to be
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: on that Seahawks side, I think.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I am a little worried that, that, that definitely
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: can happen that more and more people like, I mean, man,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: the snaps for Barner 88, 80, 91, 90, 95. Like
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: it wasn't expected to be like this week one, we
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: thought it'd be a closer gap. Barner is he's there's
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: no doubt he's under price for his, for his role.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: And like you said, more people want to go Seahawks.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: So I am a little worried about that.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I also, there's no, there's no way, there's no way
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: it goes to like a crazy number though. There's no
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: way like he's 35% owned or anything like there's.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Even 30 versus 20 though. When like you're playing JSN
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: at captain 30.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: 15, I'm just saying, I thought you called out a
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: good point there. Hoop of like, if you go to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the Ingram side, it's just, it's going to be way less.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be way less played. And my telltale
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: sign is usually with the captain. not again, I see
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the ownership right now. I think we're off a little bit.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: It's only our initial run, but people are definitely playing
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Barner captain tonight. And it's, even if it's only two
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: or 3%, that could be to like 0.5 or 0.7
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: on Ingram, which usually bleeds into the flex because then
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: if they're already on Barner at the captain, he's a thought,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: if I'm not playing him a captain, let me just
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: fit them in, in the flex. And he works so
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: easily into JSN captains as well. Then I think that's
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: something to think about here tonight too. So yeah, we'll
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: see how it shakes out, but I like that call. um,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on Ingram quite a bit, especially if you don't want
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: to try and figure out the other guys at wide receiver. Now,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: before we go to kickers and D cause it's actually
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a conversation tonight titled, do you want to think about
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: this one? Our guy, AFC Angelo says, do you want
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: one of Waddle Sutton, Harvey Franklin, Ingram in all your
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Knicks captain?
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Probably. Probably. I'm trying to envision a Knicks captain team
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: with someone other than those guys.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to envision building 1,000 lineups in an optimizer
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and seeing if.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: You can win.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would naturally, but the case against it would be, what,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: two rushing touchdowns, right? You'd have to probably run into it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm trying to, like Tambo said, any optimizer,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: you can pick any of them.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: You press build on a locked Knicks captain and build 5,000 lineups.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: might take a while to find one that doesn't have
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: at least one of those guys. So you might want
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to think about a couple of them, but in all seriousness,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm noting it like, yeah, if you're building
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: that by hand, I would definitely be thinking about one.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And if you think it's going to be, you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit higher scoring, I'd be thinking about two
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and trying to get at least two and get all
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the way there with the next captain so that it
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: actually pays off. Did anybody want to talk about this
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: one earlier, Andrew?
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried at all. To be honest, I'm more
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: worried about fading him due to his bad drop and,
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was relatively bad, and it was kind
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: of a tough catch. But, I mean, it costed him
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: the game that made him go for the third down
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: before Cooper Cup. That close one, like, Darnold put it
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: on him and he dropped it. So I'm almost more
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: worried that he's going to come out for vengeance when
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: you fade him. I'm not worried about the ankle.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you covered still because I just got
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to make a quick note. Andrew Black got the little
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: tie piece on, the little slide-in unit that goes across
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: it and everything. So let me ask the chat, what
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: do you think Andrew Black– He's ready to roll, man.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: What does Andrew.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Black do for a living? That's what I want to know.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: He's had some good questions in here today. We appreciate
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: your support, Andrew. Have a little fun with it. But
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: it looks like I would say he sells cars.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: I was going to say car salesman for sure.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: He's got that red Mustang in the background.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to say.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: But what does Andrew Black do for a living? I'm
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: curious what people think.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Wait, where did that one go? We got to see that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a Mustang. He got the truck on
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the other side. It looks like a Suburban in the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: back or like some sort of SUV truck. but uh
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: he's ready to sell man he does look like a
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: salesman for sure yeah all right hoop i'll kick it
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: over to you and i'll kick it over to you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: for some kickers some kickers and defense on this one
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: we talked about we don't always but you mentioned it
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the the altitude you got your game log chopper up
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: there you got everything figured.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Out uh yes oh he owns a He said.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Himself, you're going to be able to get an LOL,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: own a construction company.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Port-a-door Bible salesman.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I can see that. I can definitely see that.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It does look more like that than someone who owns
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a construction company.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Is that like a job that you can make enough
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: and have a career out of?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: What, a door-to-door Bible salesman?
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: If you were selling it, I would.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Probably buy it. I think you're just going to promote
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the church, right?
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: That's what I mean. I don't know if you'd get it. Yeah,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably, yeah.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: He said, I am a man of the Lord, though.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, me too. I just didn't know it
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: was a job. Someone's got to be willing to pay
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: you regardless.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah no you're just doing that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: You have a bible or you get one gifted to
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: you or something like who needs to buy a bible i.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Think it used to be a bigger thing where people
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: would go door to door and like maybe sell but
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: nowadays if you're doing that i'm assuming you're just trying
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: you want people to come to your church.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: We do have we do have people i forget what
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: religion but like these people that go around trying to
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: like convert you or getting into the church.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: That we have for sure that's different that's like trying
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: that's different That's recruitment for sure. But Bible sales, I'd
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: be like, buddy, I got a Bible. Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I went on Amazon, already got one or it's passed down. Like, yeah,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: You want the old or the new Testament, baby. He's
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: got like fake watches or something with the Bibles, but yeah.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: We'll get back on track here. We've got, we've got
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Will Lutz, Jason Myers. I think we'll see, you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: pretty equal on those guys just because the kickers are
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: going to be played tonight hoop. But I do, I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: do still think everything leans the Seattle side. And then
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to the defense, funny enough, we've
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: seen all these slates where Sam Darnold seeing ghosts and
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: all these types of things. I don't think people are
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: thinking that tonight when they're, when they're in here looking
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: at this one, but what's your thoughts of these two?
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, definitely obviously going to be in on
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the kickers.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: They have even a built-in advantage playing in the high
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: altitude tonight. And if you are a box score guy
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: when it comes to kicker, be careful because you might
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: get a little excited if you open up that Jason Myers.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: He's coming off.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: A 23, a 23 fantasy point game, five for five,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: two extra points.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Let's see, would he get a 40-yard?
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Does Corlin Sutton even have 23 fantasy points this season?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. And 11, 18, 9, 21, 22.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I think he has 26 total on the whole season.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it goes to it. It's like those are
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: the swaps, the pivots you can make. If you end
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: up on a Sutton team, just drop all the way
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: down to a kicker. Like this is the slate where
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: they could easily have a score. And on both these guys, Myers, Lutz,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: big games for both. Lutz has three games of nine
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: and above. Myers is always pretty steady. And then they
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: have the advantage kicking in the high altitude tonight. And
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: then defenses, I definitely want exposure to both defenses tonight.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: This could be another game. The only, not issue, but
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: the thing to be cautious of, we've talked about this
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: for years on this show, and it remains.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Undefeated, right?
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: The defenses in these games always come in higher on
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: than we're thinking because people see that low total sitting
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: right around 40. It's going to be a defensive battle.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: give me the defenses we're showing. And it's, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter because it always, there's no way
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: to really project for this.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It's going to be like 15 to 20, probably on both.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got Broncos. We've got them at 16. Yeah,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I bet it's probably low 20s.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: So I always just add on five, five to eight,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: somewhere in that range because it typically happens. And I
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: think it will happen again tonight. But I do want
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: some for sure. I want them in my player pool.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be without them. And these are
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: other pivots to make. Like I keep talking about it
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: using the Sutton and Waddell. example, just because I don't
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: love those guys tonight. You can come all the way
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: down and leave $ 4, 000 or $ 5, 000 on the table and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: come down right to a defense if you want.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my thoughts on those positions.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: And AFC came back around. So I just make a
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: lot of rules trying to narrow the dartboard a little bit. Um,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you know that I want one kicker D and everything. Again,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: if you, if you want to do it that way,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: you can, I just say it like in hoops mentioned
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: it for years. Like you can rule yourself out of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: a situation. You can narrow the player pool to narrow
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: your dartboard and then just get the lineups that you
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: get with it. And hopefully it puts it together. And
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: if you got an optimizer like saber SIM or something
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: like that, you're going to get correlations and things that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: go together over time, depending on the package you're on
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: could get even better. But um yeah good luck tonight
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: side note with this one hoop this one got me
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: bad because i everyone's seen this picture i know i've
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: seen it a bunch of times goes out to lunch
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: with the father-in-law.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: It's just so funny because we always come on here
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: and we're you know we're doing shows three to four
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: days a week during during football season and it's like
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: it makes you realize that it's like such a close-knit
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: community where people remember everything i didn't at first i
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: read that it's like what the hell is this guy
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: talking about?
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: And then I remember the only time you ever dressed
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: up without a hat on and your hair is combed over.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I think he even had a little tie piece on
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the unit that just slides across.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Definitely not. I'm definitely not a tie piece sort of guy.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Definitely not a tie piece sort of guy. You don't
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: have to worry about that. Yeah.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I got to see. Anything you want to add there
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: then title at the, the kickers and D's and then
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Hoops going to take a look at FanDuel as we
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: go through all this.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to play all of them.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Any Dobbins, Harvey, Waddle, Sutton, like even Emmanuel Wilson, you're
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: only giving up a couple projection points and you're saving
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of money. So in a game that's lower
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: scoring like this, points become more valuable. You can see
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: both coaches take your points on closer decisions, unlike what
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: we saw last Monday. And I didn't mention it off
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: the top, but man, even like the best coaches, I
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: put it in the Discord, like the Sean McVeigh's and
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: all this stuff for the world that we think are
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: the best. his buck just puckers when it comes down
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: to let's settle for a 48 yard field goal. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: we just drove the ball 70 yards in 30 seconds.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: And no one can like, what are these coaches? And he,
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: he admitted to it, like to everyone, he said, it's
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: my fault and all this like donkey donkeys, they can't
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: stop you.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: How do you not go for two? I disagree.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: I would not have went for two because they were not,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: why they're not stopping you you're you have every advantage
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: in the in the ot because they can't stop you.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Their defense is gassed you just march down the field
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: with ease.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: But why take why even take a 58 42 when
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: literally they can't stop you you.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Don't need them i was good with not going for two.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: I would never have went for two i felt so
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: strongly i thought that would have been the worst decision
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: But again, what do I know? I felt really strongly.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: And so did McVay. He said he didn't consider it
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: To me, I guess the argument for it is you
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: just marched on.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: And I get the assumption that you can do it
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: again in overtime. But then there's like who gets the
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: ball first, who gets the ball second. You have them
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: But now even if they score first, now you get
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: the ball back with the new OT rules.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I get that.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: But I'm thinking this defense has to be gas. You
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: just took them 180 yards with ease. There's no time
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: for them to rest. You've got the knockout punch, boom.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that would be my take on it. But
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I thought you guys would be on that side. Interesting.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: That was very strong.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, the thicker kicker is all done.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: He going.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: And it's so funny now that you brought up the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: shoe size of the other guy, the Dallas guy. I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: watched the big boy kicker come out. I was like,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: there's no way this guy has tiny feet. It looked
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: like he had tiny– it looked like he wore a
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: size 6.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Did you notice that or not?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: This is a big boy.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: He's got to have a big foot.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: He marched on that field, and the first thing I'm
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: looking at is his freaking feet, and these things look tiny, tiny.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: We need the shoe size of Mevis or Mevis, whatever
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: his name is.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Well, he's got other things to worry about, man. All
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: the allegations and stuff coming out after about this guy
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and hitting up like young girls on Instagram at 4
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: in the morning and stuff like that. This guy's a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: bit off.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: How young is the question?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Too young.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: Probably too young if they're talking about it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: It feels too young to me.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: There's young, and then there's too young.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like Leonardo DiCaprio, like, you know, going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: for a, trading in for a 25 year old every year.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: This guy is only 24 himself. And I think these
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: girls are much younger.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: So we got a lot of wiggle room when you're
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: only 24 and you're going. Right.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: You got a small window to operate within.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: High school senior.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Does Darner finish first?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I want to say he does.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I think he does.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering when, uh, Darner Tush push. I'm just trying
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Listen, it still looks like the, uh, that he does.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Six, six, 251 pounds, by the way, for, uh, for
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Barner Barnyard. Barnyard. That's a pretty good nickname actually. Um,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: burgundy bets the merch just came in yesterday and i'm
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: sick because hoop's going to be the first one to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: get it before the team even gets it the new
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: hat is fire i can't wait to see that we
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: don't even push this stuff or it's mostly because winter
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: circle we owe some people like we're going to get
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: everybody taken care of we appreciate the patience.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: I just talked to the guy i just talked to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: our guy that's handling it yesterday and he ordered all
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: the supplies so everything should be shipped out what is
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: today by you know probably tomorrow i'd assume did you
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: see the new hat I haven't seen any of it, no,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: but I know.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: He has it.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about GTA 6. I want to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: talk about Shane Drohan, and I want to talk about
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: this hat.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say Shane Gillis. How
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: soft does everyone come? That is insane. That's even a controversy.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: That is wild to me, the Shane Gillis thing.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what's going on.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: So it's just basically Saturday Night Live.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Like, you go to the gym, right? Like, any guy
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: that goes to the gym would understand this with ease.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, actually, I did see that. I did see that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: about the girl and the– I mean, yeah, he's calling
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: a spade a spade.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you go to a gym nowadays, like,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: and you're a guy, like, you notice that.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Like, it's not like a crazy– take that he had.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: People can do whatever they want if a guy wants
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: to wear what he wants to wear if a girl
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: wants to wear what she wants to wear like what
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: are we talking about like they've dressed in it and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: they have confidence to go to the gym in it
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: whether they're looking for attention or.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Guys that's human nature man like if you dress like.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: That guys are going to look at you. I just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: The girls at the construction sites don't look like that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: for Andrew Black. His wife said he can't go to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: the gym.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Especially if he's dressed like that. He's going to rope
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: in all the gym goers.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: The best was the most viral post off of it
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: when the guy said, thank you, Lord, and thank you,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Shane Gillis, for doing this. He said, now girls are
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: at the gym just proving themselves against you. He said,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I'm staying at the gym two hours longer than usual.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be in the best shape of my life.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Because of this. So they were thanking Shane Gillis for
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the support on that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: It is funny.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: FanDuel real quick.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Do FanDuel. Do FanDuel. I forgot about that.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup and Shahid.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: So they're like, what, 38 and 3,200 on DK.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup is 7,600 on FanDuel. And Shahid is 7K
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. So very tough clicks there. But good news.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Our guy Barner, 4,800. And Evan Ingram.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: 5,600. So love both those guys. And, you know, Tambo
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: talked about the switcheroo with those two switcheroo with those two.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: You like that on DK? It's even more advantageous.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: It's even more advantageous on FanDuel because there's a $ 800
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: difference where Ingram is actually more expensive than Barner.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: So that's a interesting move there. And then you got
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: all those cheap guys. And that was really the only
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: pricing discrepancies there.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you see anything title from your end? Like,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you know, Bo Nix, I think is what? 18 K
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: in the MVP over there. So that's up there a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: little bit, but I don't.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: See like, it's mainly just like the value, like Troy Franklin, 3,800
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: barn or 48, but like, there's just a huge fall
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: off where like none of these, like the little Jordan
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: Humphrey for 1400, Nate Atkins, 1.6 K Arroyo, 1.8 K
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: just become more in play because three, four is more
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: likely to be enough. Even on a slate like this
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: is more likely to be enough on a fan duel
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: than draft Kings. But I mean, yeah, like Cooper cup, Shahid,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Harvey Sutton, like these guys are clearly, clearly overpriced. So it's,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: it's going to be, I think kickers, it's going to
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: be some of the studs up top. Then people are
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: going to plug in some kickers. More of the defenses
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: for sure. And then Barner and Franklin. Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Did you– do you see that hat that I sent
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: you guys?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really good. But of course not. Like of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: course you wouldn't want it. But guess what? Like how
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: are you going to stop it? I mean these are
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: adult women dressing like that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Like he nailed
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: it for sure. We're talking about like 21-year-olds and 23-year-olds
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: and 24. Like what are you going to– yeah, I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: don't want you wearing that, honey. And then she's like, okay, dad,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and put on whatever she wants. I would not want that, correct,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: but there's no stopping it. That's what I'm saying. You're
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: not really going to get away from it. All right,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Shane Drohan tonight. Are we getting the sweep title?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say no, but I've been– I mean,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: when my brother asked me who I thought was going
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: to win this series, I said I think the Dodgers.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: So I'm always real. I always cheer who I want
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: to cheer. I have no money on it. Um, it's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: very hard to sweep a team though. What are the odds?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: There's no way that, uh, probably like what? Minus one 50,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: one 30 or something. Uh, I haven't even looked minus
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: one 57 plus one 30. Pretty close. Uh, yeah, I mean, I,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be on the Dodge or I'm going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: to pick the Dodgers, but I mean, not with much confidence.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: It's pretty hard to bet against the brewers right now.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: If, uh, Hey, if title wants to wear a banana
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: hammock to work out to the gym, that's his business.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: You can't be stopping.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: That's, that's his thing.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: So, Nades could never pick against the Brewers, the Packers.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: He's a true homer, man. He's a true homer.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not cheering for the Dodgers. I'm not betting them.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: I just, I mean, you asked me a question.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: It was a betting question is would you bet on drawing?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, if I had to bet, I'm taking plus money.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: I'm taking plus 130 overlay and minus 157, no doubt.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: All right. All right.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I don't bet, he says.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I got to ask you guys this. Do either of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: you own a video game console like PlayStations?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: My son has the Xbox. He has one in his
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: room and one in the basement. And yeah, the grand
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: theft thing is a pretty big.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Why do you need two?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: You'll appreciate this story.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: So it'll be a quickie because it revolves around somebody
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: that you know quite well, my brother-in-law. So he's already
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: got the Xbox set up. And my brother-in-law is notorious
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: for just.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: He lives.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: quite pretty far away from us and when it comes
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: christmas time we'll just like last minute shop and then
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: just like mail something for the kids so he already
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: you know my son already had the nice xbox set
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: up and you know the day like a week after
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: christmas this package shows up for him and he bought
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: him like the super version of xbox not knowing that
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: it already had an xbox so that's how we have
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: two xboxes he's got one in his.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: Room one in the basement too todd too rich Yes.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Time too rich. I like that one. The reason I ask,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: so I haven't had a console since PS2. And now
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: this game is coming out and people are saying like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: you should buy DoorDash stock. Like there's going to be
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: so many people that are going to be stuck playing
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: this game and they'll be too lazy to cook. They're
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: going to be ordering out. Like it's going to be
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: so much. This game is supposed to be crazy. I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: saw the trailer today for it. I guess it comes
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: out November 19th. And even my wife was like, should
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: we be buying a console to play? Like just nostalgia.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I remember playing it when they were like flat cars
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: on the screen, like whipping around, doing crazy shit. running
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: people over, doing all that. What's the deal with this game?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Do we got to all go buy consoles and be
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: ready to go? Someone said on the PC, but it
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: looks like it is crazy. What are we thinking here?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: It looks wild. It's the only game. So I was
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: never like a gamer person.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: I like, I would, I would always try like, Oh,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get into Madden. And then I go
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: mad and live and just get my ass kicked. Like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I've always been terrible. terrible at video games. My brother
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: was a good video game player. He'd do well. I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: was horrible at it.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: But Grand Theft, I don't know which version.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: It was when I was still in high school, so
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: probably one of the first ones. I can still remember
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: when one of the versions came out. Me and my
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: buddies literally stayed up all night playing whatever version it was.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: We took turns playing all night long. But I haven't
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: really played a version of Grand Theft since then, but
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: that one does look pretty sick.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: It took them long enough, I guess is the whole point,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: but title, what's your thoughts on this thing? Are you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: going to be grabbing it up and playing or you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: got too much money?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I know titles. There's no way because you can't make
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: money on it. So he's out.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I played two bucks poker and free time and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: all that. I mean, it looks fun. I loved back
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: in the day, Madden 25 and I was ranked in
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: ultimate team and black ops too. Like I loved certain
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: video games and I would have fun, but yeah, at
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: this point in life with the kid and a family
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: of money's on my mind, I love poker. So I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: was just playing until 2 AM and, Had to leave
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: because the kid couldn't sleep last night. So, no.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, I love that for you. I think that's why
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a console since PS2. But now I'm 40.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: You should. Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: The kids are going to be in bed.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: I don't blame you. Get your mind off of all
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: the grind. It'll be fun. There's no doubt.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be cool.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: And then if you want to do stuff, I, you know,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: my buddies tell me you got to get this headset.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I'm about that headset life, bro, but.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: It's like, you might have to, if you're doing GTA
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: and the whole world with all of these people, you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: might as well be talking to them and getting into it.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: That's what they said. I'll put on, look like a
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: welcome to good burger back in the day, slam the little,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: you know, that's all I could think of when I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: wear one of them headsets. I haven't had one forever. So,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll think about it. Everyone says it's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: going to be nuts though. I saw the previews for it.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: The graphics look insane. I know everybody says this, but
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: it is crazy. And it's nuts to think about the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: business behind that for like Rockstar and whatever. It's like,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I can't remember how big it is. I don't even
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: mean 300 million or maybe it's a billion. I don't know.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was 3 billion. It's just insane how much
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: money they're going to make off this and all this
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: as well. You don't play online, do you? You mostly
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: play live.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Mostly live. Some on coin poker, though. But yeah, mainly live.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Right on.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Anything else from you, Tidal, before we get out of here?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I think this is a good slate. Again, two good teams.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: But yeah, low total, pretty close spread. So it should
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: be competitive. Very wide open on the Broncos side. What
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: you do with JSN is definitely a question. If you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: can do like Tambo said, he still might have 25%.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: That's still well under the field. It still gives you
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: outs if he does hit there. I'll probably have a
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: little higher. um yeah go barner wilson jsn i'll be
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: cheering probably for the seahawks but i'm excited for this
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: one for dfs good luck yeah i like.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: This like quite a bit as well hoop anything from
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you before we.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Get out of here yeah a little more excited now
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: after talking through it all with you guys um you
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: know i guess the main thing as always let's start
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: out what.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Are we week six let's start out week six strong
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: and carry it all through the weekend A hundred percent.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Only week six. We're going to be really optimistic about
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: this season. It's not one third the way done of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: the regular season yet. We are just getting to game
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: six here. So we're week six. We're excited for that.
• 1:12:29
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• 1:12:32
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• 1:12:33
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• 1:13:18
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