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- 1:26Carrie Genzel: Welcome to Echoes of the South. I'm Carrie Genzel In our last episode, we
- 1:32Carrie Genzel: investigated a historic home in Macon, Georgia, where its former owner, Jennifer, had experienced
- 1:41Carrie Genzel: unexplained activity for years. What we found was far more complicated than we expected.
- 1:50Carrie Genzel: We connected with a young girl named Mandalynn encountered a woman who appeared to
- 1:57Carrie Genzel: have no understanding that she had died, and found a basement filled with spirits,
- 2:05Carrie Genzel: some of whom seemed to be hiding. But one question stayed with us after
- 2:12Carrie Genzel: we left: What were they hiding from? Morrighan continued working with what we'd encountered
- 2:20Carrie Genzel: after the investigation, and it soon became clear that we needed to go back.
- 2:27Carrie Genzel: So that's exactly what we did. Today I'm joined once again by spiritual medium
- 2:35Carrie Genzel: Morrighan Lynne and lead investigator Jonathan Morgan as we return to the house and
- 2:43Carrie Genzel: pick up. Where we left off. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you
- 2:49Carrie Genzel: that paranormal investigation is interpretive by nature. What you see and hear in this
- 2:57Carrie Genzel: episode reflects our experiences and observations during the investigation. We share what happened as
- 3:06Carrie Genzel: we experienced it and invite you to draw your own conclusions. Let's begin.
- 3:14Morrighan Lynne: See here the click and this will will beep. That's beeping the green. And
- 3:21Morrighan Lynne: that one's beeping. They're both going back and forth. Yep, see that green light?
- 3:29Morrighan Lynne: And they were silent for a few minutes and then now they're just going
- 3:36Morrighan Lynne: back and forth. Like ping pong or something. It's so cute.
- 3:42Carrie Genzel: Well what's interesting about that is that we didn't get any any activity.
- 3:47Jonthan Morgan: happening.
- 3:54Morrighan Lynne: That's so cool. I've never seen them do that. So I just want to
- 4:03Morrighan Lynne: ask is do you understand my words? Do you understand me? Beep it again,
- 4:13Morrighan Lynne: the green light. Beautiful. Can I she's touching it. That's full on antenna. Are
- 4:24Morrighan Lynne: you excited to see us?
- 4:28Jonthan Morgan: That's the temperature again.
- 4:30Morrighan Lynne: We're back. Are you Mandalynn Can you give us a green light for yes?
- 4:43Jonthan Morgan: I'm gonna back up a little bit here.
- 4:45Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. you're not Mandalynn
- 4:50Jonthan Morgan: Like they wanna talk to you, so I'm just gonna back up some
- 4:53Morrighan Lynne: Do you live in this do you live in this house? I don't know
- 5:01Morrighan Lynne: that they're there anymore. That
- 5:06Carrie Genzel: Left.
- 5:07Morrighan Lynne: was really cool. That one's still going though. Are we sure that's
- 5:11Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, this chirpin shouldn't be happening. Shouldn't.
- 5:13Morrighan Lynne: It shouldn't be happening, okay.
- 5:23Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, and that's one of the proximity lights on the on the bottom.
- 5:28Morrighan Lynne: Because it was quiet for a while.
- 5:31Jonthan Morgan: It's actually getting a couple of proximity lights.
- 5:34Morrighan Lynne: nice. Maybe it's two different spirits that we're talking to.
- 5:39Jonthan Morgan: Yep, there's there's two that are chirping.
- 5:43Morrighan Lynne: So maybe they both went in there. Can we get one of you to
- 5:46Morrighan Lynne: come back to this one and then we do ping pong again? That was
- 5:49Morrighan Lynne: That's
- 5:50Carrie Genzel: Hope that's
- 5:51Morrighan Lynne: the alarm. We're gonna have to call that out all night. So can you
- 5:57Morrighan Lynne: can one of you come back to this one and play the the game
- 6:04Morrighan Lynne: you were playing a minute ago? Can you do that for me? That's okay,
- 6:11Morrighan Lynne: you're probably tired now. That was fun. I loved that. Thank you. Well stay
- 6:19Morrighan Lynne: with us, we'll play some more, okay? We've got more toys.
- 6:25Carrie Genzel: That is a great way to start off the night. When
- 6:28Morrighan Lynne: Great. That was amazing.
- 6:29Carrie Genzel: we were here last time, we didn't really get any we did hear footsteps
- 6:34Morrighan Lynne: yeah.
- 6:38Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, there's okay, yeah, there there's no electromagnetic interference, not from wiring and not
- 6:45Jonthan Morgan: from the house itself. And the chirping has stopped.
- 6:49Carrie Genzel: So
- 6:53Jonthan Morgan: So debunked like it be anything
- 6:55Carrie Genzel: It's not
- 6:56Jonthan Morgan: else. It's not the house.
- 6:57Carrie Genzel: Right.
- 6:59Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 7:01Carrie Genzel: Okay, that's good to know.
- 7:02Jonthan Morgan: And the two proximity lights at ten o'clock and four o'clock were chirping.
- 7:12Carrie Genzel: So just to recap, when we were here a few months ago, we connected
- 7:17Carrie Genzel: with Mandalynn, who we identified as a seven year old girl who was connected
- 7:24Carrie Genzel: to the two adults in the we'll call the brown bedroom. and there was
- 7:30Carrie Genzel: a tangerine situation. Yep, with the woman with the woman and the male who
- 7:37Carrie Genzel: was very abrasive.
- 7:39Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 7:41Carrie Genzel: And then we encountered a whole plethora of spirits down in the basement. We
- 7:47Carrie Genzel: had the door move or someone push on the door to
- 7:51Morrighan Lynne: Crawl space.
- 7:52Jonthan Morgan: So when we go downstairs, if the door's open, we should close it again.
- 7:57Jonthan Morgan: Yes. With cameras on and see if it tries to open again. Yes. Like
- 8:01Jonthan Morgan: it did last time.
- 8:03Carrie Genzel: So we'll see who we can encounter this time. Someone is very playful so
- 8:08Carrie Genzel: far. And we didn't really get activity on this level last time, so that's
- 8:14Carrie Genzel: exciting.
- 8:15Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, yeah.
- 8:16Carrie Genzel: So it's not electrical.
- 8:18Jonthan Morgan: It's not electrical.
- 8:20Carrie Genzel: And the other the other REM pod is sitting behind and above the vent,
- 8:24Carrie Genzel: the air conditioning vent. So it's not being affected by the air.
- 8:29Jonthan Morgan: Right, there's no vent on it. Now there is the glass behind it, it's
- 8:32Jonthan Morgan: the end of the day, sun starting to go down, there could be a
- 8:36Jonthan Morgan: temperature change for the temperature light to come on, but that was the proximity
- 8:40Jonthan Morgan: light coming on, not temperature, not change of temperature. So
- 8:44Carrie Genzel: Right. That's just the alarm again.
- 8:46Jonthan Morgan: that proximity light was hitting with in unison with this one, ping ponging. Yeah.
- 8:52Jonthan Morgan: They they were being playful.
- 8:55Carrie Genzel: Do we want to leave anything to monitor these?
- 8:57Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, I'm I'm charging a camera and I'm gonna set it up.
- 9:01Carrie Genzel: Okay.
- 9:03Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, and I charged that camera this afternoon for three hours and it's already
- 9:06Jonthan Morgan: dead.
- 9:07Carrie Genzel: Well let me just say there was a time that we were in here
- 9:11Carrie Genzel: with the homeowner and Michael had brought a flashlight that was fully charged and
- 9:17Carrie Genzel: it would not stay on in this house and when we got home it
- 9:21Carrie Genzel: stayed on perfectly.
- 9:23Jonthan Morgan: Yeah. Wow. Really. Yeah. Interesting. At home and at work.
- 9:26Carrie Genzel: worked completely fine. Of course. So there is there is there's there are some
- 9:32Carrie Genzel: things here that like like to play with the electronics.
- 9:37Jonthan Morgan: Yeah. So if y'all want to play with the equipment we have, play with
- 9:44Jonthan Morgan: these d these devices, light them up. Light up, up, up, come on down.
- 9:52Morrighan Lynne: Dork.
- 9:54Carrie Genzel: I love it. I love it.
- 9:57Morrighan Lynne: Maybe we go to the basement first just to mix it up a little
- 10:00Morrighan Lynne: bit.
- 10:01Jonthan Morgan: I
- 10:02Carrie Genzel: You're thinking basement?
- 10:03Morrighan Lynne: Just to like change of the expectations, I can kinda feel them anticipating like
- 10:07Morrighan Lynne: they know what we're gonna do, but let's not do what they think we're
- 10:11Morrighan Lynne: gonna do.
- 10:12Carrie Genzel: Okay.
- 10:15Morrighan Lynne: Just grab it, like hold it. It'll make a louder sound. It's kinda cool.
- 10:22Morrighan Lynne: All the lights will light up. Can you do that for me? that was
- 10:29Morrighan Lynne: better. A little bit more, like just grab it. You can do it, I
- 10:36Morrighan Lynne: believe in you. It's not supposed to be doing that. Yeah, even if it
- 10:44Morrighan Lynne: was calibrating, it would have already calibrated by now. Right. It's not supposed to
- 10:53Morrighan Lynne: do things like that. It's almost like they're just like tapping the antenna, just
- 11:02Morrighan Lynne: like messing with it.
- 11:05Carrie Genzel: I mean, that is fun.
- 11:07Morrighan Lynne: He's already done the EMF, so there's no wiring that was awesome. You're doing
- 11:18Morrighan Lynne: better. You're getting the hang of it. We're gonna go down into the basement.
- 11:28Morrighan Lynne: Do you wanna grab it just one time before we go? Really, really hard.
- 11:38Morrighan Lynne: Maybe both hands.
- 11:41Carrie Genzel: alarm.
- 11:46Morrighan Lynne: Alright, you play with it. We're gonna go downstairs. Okay?
- 11:53Jonthan Morgan: All right, we're gonna go downstairs.
- 11:54Carrie Genzel: We're gonna go down. did it? Change?
- 11:58Morrighan Lynne: It went.
- 12:00Jonthan Morgan: Is it okay if we go downstairs?
- 12:06Morrighan Lynne: How we do this? How about just a normal beat if you want us
- 12:15Morrighan Lynne: to go downstairs or a funky beat like a rrrr if you want us
- 12:24Morrighan Lynne: to stay here?
- 12:27Jonthan Morgan: it stopped for a moment.
- 12:28Carrie Genzel: It did.
- 12:29Morrighan Lynne: That's more of like now I know it's spiritual because it wa it's not
- 12:35Morrighan Lynne: default where it's got a rhythm. It sounds rhythmic. Can g give me a
- 12:41Morrighan Lynne: w
- 12:42Jonthan Morgan: Give me a bee?
- 12:43Morrighan Lynne: Gimme a beat! Janet Jackson, you nasty. Alright, we're gonna go downstairs, honey. If
- 12:51Morrighan Lynne: you wanna come with us you can. Or you can stay here and play
- 12:58Morrighan Lynne: with that. Totally up to you.
- 13:01Jonthan Morgan: It's a proper we're going downstairs.
- 13:02Morrighan Lynne: Give me a beat. All right, love.
- 13:06Carrie Genzel: Maybe we'll see you downstairs.
- 13:08Jonthan Morgan: Alright.
- 13:09Carrie Genzel: Morrighan you've got like a train. Someone's gonna like kill themselves coming down these
- 13:15Carrie Genzel: stairs. Ooh, it's warmer down here for sure. Rempa.
- 13:20Jonthan Morgan: That's upstairs.
- 13:25Morrighan Lynne: I don't know it's this one.
- 13:32Jonthan Morgan: Wait for Michael.
- 13:35Carrie Genzel: Did you go look?
- 13:36Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, he's looking at the other. Let me go open the door. Okay.
- 13:39Carrie Genzel: Okay.
- 13:40Jonthan Morgan: And then and then you can
- 13:42Carrie Genzel: It's interesting in front of the door today.
- 13:43Morrighan Lynne: Because if it's the one in the law Was it the one in the
- 13:50Morrighan Lynne: living room? On the stairs, okay.
- 13:55Carrie Genzel: Are we gonna leave it open open?
- 13:58Jonthan Morgan: I won't hear the
- 13:58Morrighan Lynne: he wants me to close it. okay. Okay. Setting
- 14:01Carrie Genzel: Michael, you're gonna follow more.
- 14:02Morrighan Lynne: the scene.
- 14:13Carrie Genzel: Alright, well we definitely know that it's closed. As we reposition our cameras and
- 14:21Carrie Genzel: equipment to begin our session in the basement, Jon starts recording with the XLS
- 14:30Carrie Genzel: camera. Almost immediately, he captures several unexplained orbs moving through the space. We'll take
- 14:40Carrie Genzel: a closer look at those captures after the investigation in Echoes Explained.
- 14:49Morrighan Lynne: Is there anybody here? Keep one for yes, two for no. Thank you. Are
- 14:59Morrighan Lynne: you anyone we've spoken to before? Do you remember us? No. Do you live
- 15:09Morrighan Lynne: in this house? Is this your home? Yes. Nice. Do you particularly live in
- 15:20Morrighan Lynne: this section of the house? Is this your floor, your room? No. Are you
- 15:31Morrighan Lynne: the owner?
- 15:33Carrie Genzel: Yes. Did we talk to you upstairs?
- 15:38Morrighan Lynne: Feel like you're the woman though. Yeah. When it's soft, yes. I felt the
- 15:46Morrighan Lynne: feminine energy. So the woman in the bedroom maybe.
- 15:52Carrie Genzel: Do you think it's her? But she said we haven't talked to her before.
- 15:55Carrie Genzel: wait, it's doing weird stuff again.
- 15:58Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, it's trying to find a baseline again. So the device that I have
- 16:03Jonthan Morgan: in my hand, if you just wanna come over and see if you can
- 16:08Jonthan Morgan: interact with this device here. Thank you. There we go. There we are. That
- 16:14Jonthan Morgan: was quick.
- 16:15Morrighan Lynne: So are you the lady of the house? You're not up.
- 16:28Jonthan Morgan: No, that was looked like twice.
- 16:30Morrighan Lynne: Kind of a no, yeah. I felt like w she wouldn't have been called
- 16:36Morrighan Lynne: that.
- 16:37Jonthan Morgan: Are you the lady that we spoke to last time? That was a big
- 16:39Jonthan Morgan: yes, that was a hard yes.
- 16:41Morrighan Lynne: Yes.
- 16:46Jonthan Morgan: You're the one in the bedroom, right?
- 16:50Carrie Genzel: No.
- 16:50Jonthan Morgan: So what other lady did we speak to? Are you the the child?
- 16:56Carrie Genzel: Mandalynn
- 16:58Jonthan Morgan: Mandalynn that
- 17:02Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, said yeah.
- 17:04Jonthan Morgan: was okay.
- 17:03Carrie Genzel: It said yeah. Hi sweetie.
- 17:11Jonthan Morgan: Are you excited to see us back back at the house? No.
- 17:17Morrighan Lynne: Big though.
- 17:18Carrie Genzel: That's okay, big no.
- 17:20Jonthan Morgan: Are you afraid for us to be here?
- 17:27Carrie Genzel: Yeah.
- 17:28Jonthan Morgan: So are we in danger?
- 17:36Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 17:38Jonthan Morgan: Is someone in the house that means us harm? That's a big hard yes.
- 17:45Jonthan Morgan: Did someone close the door?
- 17:48Morrighan Lynne: Is it your dad? Yeah.
- 17:50Carrie Genzel: Morrighan did.
- 17:51Morrighan Lynne: Is it your dad?
- 17:53Jonthan Morgan: Is it your dad?
- 17:56Carrie Genzel: No.
- 17:57Morrighan Lynne: No. Is it somebody new?
- 18:03Jonthan Morgan: Gone. Well that's interesting. Baseline at the same time.
- 18:12Morrighan Lynne: That is not that's temperature but nothing's on.
- 18:16Carrie Genzel: Right.
- 18:17Morrighan Lynne: Okay, Mandalynn are you still with us? And the fact that it won't stop
- 18:24Morrighan Lynne: feels like an alarm. Right. Are you are you okay, can I ask you,
- 18:31Morrighan Lynne: is it a being
- 18:33Jonthan Morgan: You just gotta w yes.
- 18:35Morrighan Lynne: Is it a being that doesn't look familiar to you? Is it non human?
- 18:41Jonthan Morgan: That was a yes.
- 18:43Morrighan Lynne: Yes. I'm getting like choky. Yeah yeah yeah.
- 18:48Jonthan Morgan: So they showed up.
- 18:51Morrighan Lynne: Was it just one? No. Is it three? I just want to dial in,
- 19:05Morrighan Lynne: is it three?
- 19:08Jonthan Morgan: Yes. That was a yes.
- 19:10Morrighan Lynne: Okay, and it's three non-human beings. You don't recognize them. Okay, okay. Are you
- 19:27Morrighan Lynne: okay? Are you safe?
- 19:31Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 19:32Morrighan Lynne: And then that beat beep. Alright.
- 19:38Carrie Genzel: It just did it again. It's like a almost like a chirp.
- 19:43Morrighan Lynne: Are they okay? It's
- 19:46Carrie Genzel: It's recalibrating. Well this is an interesting turn of events.
- 19:51Jonthan Morgan: Yes it is.
- 19:52Morrighan Lynne: Mandalynn Is that you? Sure.
- 19:56Jonthan Morgan: That short. Are you back with us, Mandalynn?
- 20:03Morrighan Lynne: It's okay, we're gonna protect you.
- 20:05Jonthan Morgan: Or just take it slow, I just heard yes.
- 20:07Morrighan Lynne: Okay. What was I gonna ask?
- 20:13Carrie Genzel: We asked if she was safe.
- 20:17Jonthan Morgan: Thirst. We're getting a lot of pain this.
- 20:23Carrie Genzel: She is safe, guys.
- 20:25Morrighan Lynne: Are the are the are your other family members safe? No.
- 20:28Jonthan Morgan: She says no.
- 20:30Morrighan Lynne: Are they praying? Are they harming your mom? Is she upstairs or are they
- 20:36Morrighan Lynne: harming her? Yeah. They're attacking her because she doesn't know she's a tangerine. Right.
- 20:45Morrighan Lynne: All right, can we help your mom? We can help her right now. Will
- 20:51Morrighan Lynne: that will that be good? No, not right now. Little bit later, maybe a
- 20:57Morrighan Lynne: few more minutes. Cause we're gonna help. Chrip. Yes. Two more minutes. Do you
- 21:04Morrighan Lynne: wanna just rest for a second before we go up there? Cause it's okay
- 21:11Morrighan Lynne: if you rest with us.
- 21:13Carrie Genzel: Yeah.
- 21:14Morrighan Lynne: That's she's scared to go up there. You don't have to go up there
- 21:18Morrighan Lynne: by the way. You can stay wherever you feel safe, okay?
- 21:22Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 21:24Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, we'll go. We're fine, we'll take care of it. You be wherever is
- 21:30Morrighan Lynne: comfortable for you. Deal? No. No. do you want to stay with us? You
- 21:36Morrighan Lynne: just want to stay a few more minutes here. Yeah. No. I'm
- 21:42Carrie Genzel: How about
- 21:43Jonthan Morgan: She
- 21:43Morrighan Lynne: not used to that. I'm not used to that.
- 21:46Carrie Genzel: So
- 21:47Jonthan Morgan: No, me neither.
- 21:49Carrie Genzel: is there anything we can do for her?
- 21:51Morrighan Lynne: For Mandalynn? we're gonna do something for all of it. Okay. We're taking care
- 21:58Morrighan Lynne: of this shit. I think they're coming. So I'm calling out to Archangel Michael
- 22:05Morrighan Lynne: and your legion of angels, and I ask that you please surround this house,
- 22:11Morrighan Lynne: surround each and every one of us, and protect any and all beings that
- 22:18Morrighan Lynne: are light of this location, connected to this land, connected to this house. Please
- 22:26Morrighan Lynne: have our backs, keep us clear, keep us level-headed, keep us safe. Chirp chirp.
- 22:33Morrighan Lynne: Are they here now, Mandalynn?
- 22:36Jonthan Morgan: That's a yes.
- 22:42Morrighan Lynne: Do you see Archangel Michael? Yes. Yes. Okay, good. So we're we're gonna take
- 22:50Morrighan Lynne: care of it, okay? I promise you. We're gonna take care of it, okay?
- 22:58Jonthan Morgan: Yes. She said yes.
- 23:04Morrighan Lynne: Very fascinating.
- 23:07Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, something's close to it.
- 23:12Morrighan Lynne: Do you feel safe? Do you feel safe right now with us and Michael?
- 23:19Morrighan Lynne: Archangel Michael?
- 23:22Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 23:22Morrighan Lynne: Good. Good. So stick with us, okay? We got we got our our dudes.
- 23:28Morrighan Lynne: It's gonna be okay.
- 23:30Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 23:31Morrighan Lynne: Okay. We I do wanna hang on a little while and see what they're
- 23:35Morrighan Lynne: about, but we will get rid of them, okay? I promise. I just want
- 23:41Morrighan Lynne: to get a little bit more information.
- 23:44Carrie Genzel: Yeah, no.
- 23:46Morrighan Lynne: It's okay, I know, it's a little scary. It is gonna be okay though,
- 23:54Morrighan Lynne: I promise. Okay? She keeps saying no. Footsteps upstairs. I heard that too. I
- 24:04Morrighan Lynne: didn't know what
- 24:06Carrie Genzel: it was footsteps or a motorcycle driving by. It was footsteps. We've heard footsteps
- 24:11Carrie Genzel: upstairs before.
- 24:13Jonthan Morgan: I'm gonna shout I'm
- 24:13Morrighan Lynne: She says yes.
- 24:15Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 24:15Jonthan Morgan: gonna check the baby.
- 24:19Carrie Genzel: Do you have the volume up on that?
- 24:21Morrighan Lynne: She's like n it's recalibrating. No. what did She was like this. Look what
- 24:26Morrighan Lynne: it's doing. I've never seen it do that before.
- 24:30Jonthan Morgan: Yeah,
- 24:30Morrighan Lynne: She's like she's warning us. Yeah. It's almost like she
- 24:36Carrie Genzel: doing it like she's nervous, like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, like some
- 24:45Jonthan Morgan: Yep, that's upstairs.
- 24:49Morrighan Lynne: It's not Mandalynn anymore. Come over here with me, honey. Come over here, Mandalynn.
- 25:02Morrighan Lynne: Right here. Just stay right there, okay? She does not belong to you. She
- 25:13Morrighan Lynne: is not yours.
- 25:15Carrie Genzel: No.
- 25:16Morrighan Lynne: She is not yours. She does not belong to you. You do not belong
- 25:24Morrighan Lynne: here. This is not your plane of existence. No, it is not. You do
- 25:33Morrighan Lynne: not belong on this plane.
- 25:37Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 25:45Jonthan Morgan: That was upstairs right above us.
- 25:52Carrie Genzel: Is that noise coming from upstairs?
- 25:54Morrighan Lynne: I think we get the ghost box. It's just gaslighting now. Mmm. It's gaslighting
- 26:00Morrighan Lynne: energy. Which is very demonic. I don't think they're big ones. I think they're
- 26:07Morrighan Lynne: middle middle range. intelligent. So they're on their own orders, sort of, but not
- 26:15Morrighan Lynne: Not the ones we would not say their names. Okay. I do go through
- 26:20Morrighan Lynne: a hierarchy of like how who who are we dealing with? And it feels
- 26:26Morrighan Lynne: if this is like the low man totem pole entity and this is like
- 26:32Morrighan Lynne: the the eight we don't talk about. Right. They're about right here. Okay. So
- 26:39Carrie Genzel: Middle management.
- 26:40Morrighan Lynne: a little like upper upper lower management.
- 26:43Jonthan Morgan: Hi. Y'all
- 26:45Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 26:47Jonthan Morgan: are getting hitch over here saying yes.
- 26:49Morrighan Lynne: It's been it's been
- 26:50Carrie Genzel: It's been doing.
- 26:51Morrighan Lynne: doing it the whole time and it's gaslighting, so it's not even really whatever.
- 26:54Morrighan Lynne: Yeah,
- 26:55Carrie Genzel: We've moved on.
- 26:59Morrighan Lynne: it's it's not it's not
- 27:01Carrie Genzel: Making up stories.
- 27:03Morrighan Lynne: It's not human.
- 27:06Jonthan Morgan: Gotcha.
- 27:07Carrie Genzel: But if it wants to say some things over the speaker, that would be
- 27:10Carrie Genzel: wonderful.
- 27:11Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 27:15Carrie Genzel: Now it's going wonky again.
- 27:17Morrighan Lynne: Walking again. Very bizarre.
- 27:23Carrie Genzel: Here we go.
- 27:25Morrighan Lynne: Alright, we want to talk to you. Are you open to that? Are you
- 27:37Morrighan Lynne: willing? Are you scared? Are you too scared?
- 27:46Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 27:48Morrighan Lynne: You're afraid we're gonna find out who you are?
- 28:00Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 28:01Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 28:03Carrie Genzel: Well we're gonna find out anyway.
- 28:06Morrighan Lynne: I already know who you are. Maybe not your name, but I know who
- 28:10Morrighan Lynne: you are.
- 28:11Carrie Genzel: Yes.
- 28:12Morrighan Lynne: So it's not gonna hurt anything just to say hello.
- 28:20Carrie Genzel: Yes. Did you get a five?
- 28:23Morrighan Lynne: I didn't hear it.
- 28:25Carrie Genzel: Might need to be a little touch louder.
- 28:29Morrighan Lynne: Nice. Okay, thank you so much.
- 28:32Carrie Genzel: Wow. What was that?
- 28:41Morrighan Lynne: I can't hear it. house. Why are you here now?
- 29:40Jonthan Morgan: Sound like it said Samson. Sam Samson.
- 29:57Morrighan Lynne: Samson, can you tell me why you're in this house? What do you want?
- 30:10Jonthan Morgan: Hitting hitting.
- 30:36Morrighan Lynne: time Samson why are you in this house?
- 30:44Carrie Genzel: Yes
- 31:00Morrighan Lynne: The first few times.
- 31:05Jonthan Morgan: Lighting up again.
- 31:13Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. Go upstairs.
- 32:01Morrighan Lynne: Alright, heading upstairs.
- 32:05Carrie Genzel: So, yeah.
- 32:09Morrighan Lynne: Okay. Well all right. We're in your favorite room. This is where the the
- 32:23Morrighan Lynne: feeding takes place, isn't it? Lots of energy in this room. That's the alarm.
- 32:38Jonathan Morgan: I'm gonna turn this off for now. Let me know if you want it
- 32:41Jonathan Morgan: back again.
- 32:42Morrighan Lynne: Do in a minute. that, yeah.
- 32:44Jonathan Morgan: Or either way. I was talking about the ghost box.
- 32:45Morrighan Lynne: Do that, yeah. 'Cause we were getting actually less I do feel that, if
- 32:49Morrighan Lynne: you're okay with that.
- 32:51Jonathan Morgan: Mm-hmm. I am. Let's do that.
- 32:55Morrighan Lynne: That makes them nervous. There's a I feel a little shake when we talk
- 32:58Morrighan Lynne: about it.
- 32:59Jonathan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 33:04Morrighan Lynne: Yeah we're ready. You weren't touching it.
- 33:06Jonathan Morgan: What was it?
- 33:07Morrighan Lynne: Holy shit. Who's here?
- 33:08Jonathan Morgan: And it was quite
- 33:09Morrighan Lynne: It was quiet. Who's here? Let's go. It's time for action. Silence. Is it
- 33:18Morrighan Lynne: supposed to go like in and out like that? No, it's not usually that
- 33:27Morrighan Lynne: quiet.
- 33:28Jonathan Morgan: No.
- 33:31Morrighan Lynne: Mandalynn said there were three of you. Who are you?
- 33:55Jonathan Morgan: All right, come on back. Talk to us through the radio. Talk to us
- 34:07Jonathan Morgan: through that speaker. A little bit louder, come on. Yeah, we won't do anything.
- 34:22Jonathan Morgan: Speak through the speaker.
- 34:27Morrighan Lynne: I guess they're too weak. I don't know. I think they are too weak
- 34:33Morrighan Lynne: to do it.
- 34:34Jonathan Morgan: just be like just too tired. They just can't voice what they want.
- 34:42Morrighan Lynne: Or they're too scared.
- 34:44Jonathan Morgan: good point. Well, you know, a lot of times they just back off.
- 34:49Morrighan Lynne: That's a shame. I heard Samson. Again? Well there's some a a younger younger
- 35:09Morrighan Lynne: voice said Samson. Is Samson in this room? Samson. Well why is that so
- 35:27Morrighan Lynne: quiet?
- 35:29Jonathan Morgan: Everything just kept quiet. Wow. Even the REM pods. Are you up here with
- 35:41Jonathan Morgan: us? Talk to us.
- 35:44Morrighan Lynne: Samson came in and shut it down. Is Samson the boss.
- 35:51Carrie Genzel: you
- 36:10Morrighan Lynne: He did. He came in and shut it down. I feel like somebody's walking
- 36:13Morrighan Lynne: around out here. Yeah. I wonder
- 36:15Jonathan Morgan: So what happened?
- 36:17Morrighan Lynne: if that's the husband.
- 36:18Jonathan Morgan: Can you not talk to us? Yeah.
- 36:27Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, it's very quiet.
- 36:29Jonathan Morgan: Is that your mic?
- 36:34Morrighan Lynne: Then who will talk to us? If you won't, who will? Did we ever
- 36:44Morrighan Lynne: get the husband's name? I don't remember that. Yeah. I heard
- 36:55Jonathan Morgan: Like a no.
- 36:56Morrighan Lynne: no. Say no. Is that the woman of the house? Because it's the same
- 37:05Morrighan Lynne: voice I keep hearing. I thought I heard help help me. Are are you
- 37:15Morrighan Lynne: the woman of this house, are you the wife? Tell me, please.
- 37:24Jonathan Morgan: We can help you if you tell us.
- 37:42Morrighan Lynne: They're not gonna let anybody talk now because they've caught on to what we're
- 37:46Morrighan Lynne: doing and we're getting information and information is power and you're fucking scared. We
- 37:51Morrighan Lynne: just gotta yell.
- 37:52Jonathan Morgan: Yeah. That's that's what it feels like.
- 37:56Morrighan Lynne: So they're trying to shut it down.
- 37:58Jonathan Morgan: That game.
- 38:00Morrighan Lynne: Alright. No. Whatever. Let me wrap the house up first and then we'll do
- 38:07Morrighan Lynne: good, good,
- 38:09Jonathan Morgan: I'm just gonna
- 38:11Morrighan Lynne: good. Get off of me. Archangel Michael, bring down your tunnel of lights. Open
- 38:36Morrighan Lynne: it up and send any and all beings that are below light, that do
- 38:57Morrighan Lynne: not belong on this plane of existence, into the tunnel of light, so that
- 39:21Morrighan Lynne: they may go to the dimension that they belong now. Protect the human spirits.
- 39:47Morrighan Lynne: Protect us. Mm-hmm. Go. Take whatever this is in my back with it does
- 40:09Morrighan Lynne: not belong on this plane. And take any poisons or any damage with it.
- 40:32Morrighan Lynne: So no. How feel?
- 40:38Jonathan Morgan: I feel like I need to vocalize one.
- 40:40Morrighan Lynne: Go ahead.
- 40:48Jonathan Morgan: dai ko myo
- 40:49Carrie Genzel: ~
- 40:50Morrighan Lynne: Idiot
- 40:51Carrie Genzel: ~
- 41:23Morrighan Lynne: Will you look at my back? Right here. Yeah, I feel like I have
- 41:44Morrighan Lynne: a a dagger or a spear. have you pulled it out? Not yet. Don't
- 42:06Morrighan Lynne: pull it out yet. I'm gonna I'm
- 42:17Jonathan Morgan: I'm just breaking it up.
- 42:19Morrighan Lynne: gonna do a little surgery first. Alright. Because it's barred. Yeah. I know I'm
- 43:08Morrighan Lynne: gotta no. Yeah. Feels better. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cause they weren't letting anything through. Yeah,
- 44:08Morrighan Lynne: well it I yawn when I release, so yeah, just moving it. Boss, that's
- 44:51Morrighan Lynne: been a long time since I had that.
- 45:13Jonathan Morgan: Right, right. Hadn't had to do a proper cleaning cleansing in a while. That's
- 45:26Jonathan Morgan: Felt good.
- 45:28Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 45:32Jonathan Morgan: Yeah.
- 45:36Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, it's out. Yeah. Yeah.
- 45:38Jonathan Morgan: Yeah. How's she doing?
- 45:42Morrighan Lynne: let me recalibrate. Let me let me let me recalibrate a little. Okay. This
- 45:54Morrighan Lynne: time we are truly going to open a door for you and So sh
- 46:04Morrighan Lynne: she's not a tangerine anymore, she knows now. Okay.
- 46:14Jonathan Morgan: Let's
- 46:14Morrighan Lynne: A lot has happened. I think it's because of that. That's the stairs. And
- 46:20Morrighan Lynne: I think her saying help me was like her waking up in this moment
- 46:26Morrighan Lynne: of like, This isn't right. Okay.
- 46:29Jonathan Morgan: Okay.
- 46:30Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. So That is still going. Yeah. Okay, I would like to let me
- 46:41Morrighan Lynne: feel this out. Something shifted in the house. different. I was about to call
- 46:54Morrighan Lynne: everybody in.
- 46:57Jonathan Morgan: Yeah.
- 46:57Morrighan Lynne: But something something feels different. Let's turn that off for a second. I'm just
- 47:09Morrighan Lynne: gonna talk with this instrument. I'm gonna reset this, okay? Hold on one moment.
- 47:21Morrighan Lynne: Just wanna reset the equipment. Thank you, Michael. Thank you. Alright. I would like
- 47:34Morrighan Lynne: to call in Mandalynn and the wife. And the husband if you're open to
- 47:44Morrighan Lynne: it. And I would like to speak to Mandalynn Right here, honey. I want
- 47:54Morrighan Lynne: to check in on you to see how you're doing. Are you okay? Mandalynn
- 48:04Morrighan Lynne: in the room. Okay. Are you okay? That was a little scary. No, we're
- 48:14Morrighan Lynne: not okay. Are you still afraid? That got a little dramatic. No. are you
- 48:25Morrighan Lynne: ready to go home? You've seen my friend Archangel Michael. No. That's a quick
- 48:36Morrighan Lynne: no. It's her it's her stepmom. Do you wanna go with your stepmom? No.
- 48:47Morrighan Lynne: Are you worried about your dad? No no. Is there more here? No. Is
- 48:56Morrighan Lynne: it just overwhelming? Yes. I felt her overwhelm. It's okay, you can take your
- 49:08Morrighan Lynne: time. That was a lot, I know. A lot of weird things. Things that
- 49:18Morrighan Lynne: you're not used to, I know. Okay all right. Can I speak? It's doing
- 49:28Morrighan Lynne: that weird thing again. Relax, sweetheart. Take a breath. I want to speak to
- 49:39Morrighan Lynne: the mom, the wife. Can I please speak to you? Is this the woman?
- 49:49Morrighan Lynne: just thinks panicked, like just doesn't know what's up or down or right or
- 50:00Morrighan Lynne: wrong and I mean think about you just saw an angelic demonic battle happening.
- 50:12Jonathan Morgan: So reassure her.
- 50:14Morrighan Lynne: Yes.
- 50:17Jonathan Morgan: Reassure her that I'm trying to th think of how to phrase it. What
- 50:22Jonathan Morgan: was happening to her was not her fault. That was not her pun punishment.
- 50:29Morrighan Lynne: that wasn't your punishment, honey. They came into this house without permission and you
- 50:36Morrighan Lynne: did not deserve that, right? No. You did not deserve that. I'm so sorry
- 50:43Morrighan Lynne: that happened to you. But they're gone now. And yes. And you have an
- 50:49Morrighan Lynne: opportunity now to move into another place. A place that is filled with angels.
- 50:56Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, I know. Mm. I think she was raised pretty like religious. Scary.
- 51:03Jonathan Morgan: Yeah, exactly.
- 51:04Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. Okay. I'ma call in another friend. She said no. No. I'ma call in
- 51:10Morrighan Lynne: another friend, okay? I'm gonna call in my friend Archangel Gabriel. it's starting to
- 51:19Morrighan Lynne: go weird again. Yeah, it's okay, sweetie. You know about angels, don't you? Yeah,
- 51:27Morrighan Lynne: I'm gonna call in Archangel Gabriel. 'Cause it just feels like the whole house
- 51:34Morrighan Lynne: shifted, like now everything's recalibrating and there's a bit of disorientation going on. All
- 51:43Morrighan Lynne: right. Do you see my friend Gabriel? Do you see Gabriel? Yes. So Gabriel
- 51:50Morrighan Lynne: is the angel that helps mothers and children. Isn't that beautiful? Yes, big yes.
- 51:58Morrighan Lynne: Big yes. So Gabriel can take you to where other children are playing in
- 52:05Morrighan Lynne: a safe place. A beautiful place. Where there are Gabriel can do that. I
- 52:12Morrighan Lynne: know, I've seen Gabriel do that. But this place is safe. There are no
- 52:19Morrighan Lynne: bad energies. Yes. Yeah. This is a safe place. She's a little attached to
- 52:26Morrighan Lynne: us.
- 52:27Jonathan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 52:28Morrighan Lynne: A a little attached. I tell you what, one of these days. Hold on,
- 52:35Morrighan Lynne: let me finish. She's like, don't bargain with me. I tell you what. One
- 52:42Morrighan Lynne: of these days, not now, but one of these days, I'll come see you.
- 52:50Morrighan Lynne: How about that? Just relax, sweetie pie. It's okay. I'll come see you. I'll
- 52:58Morrighan Lynne: come see you, okay? You go play with the other kids, follow Gabriel, and
- 53:06Morrighan Lynne: I'll come see you and say hi to you one of these days. Is
- 53:12Morrighan Lynne: that a deal? And we'll play on the swing sets together. Is that fair?
- 53:20Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really appreciate you. And I promise you you're gonna be
- 53:28Morrighan Lynne: you're gonna be okay. You're gonna be happy, you're gonna be safe, and I
- 53:36Morrighan Lynne: will come see you, okay? No, I know it'll it'll be an adjustment, it's
- 53:44Morrighan Lynne: okay. I promise you you're gonna be safe. I'll come see you, okay? Well
- 53:52Morrighan Lynne: I'm gonna say Gabriel is here for whenever you're ready. Okay? Is that a
- 54:00Morrighan Lynne: deal? You take your time, you go when you're ready. I just don't know
- 54:08Morrighan Lynne: what's holding her here. Right. Is it is it is it is it family?
- 54:15Morrighan Lynne: Are you wanting are you missing someone? Is through are you afraid to go
- 54:23Morrighan Lynne: without them? Yes. Is it the baby? The brother. Do you know the baby
- 54:30Morrighan Lynne: actually is where or? No. What are you missing? I don't think it's the
- 54:38Morrighan Lynne: dad. It's her mom. Her mom is. Her actual mom. Jesus Christ. That took
- 54:46Morrighan Lynne: fucking forever. I'm slow sometimes. Well, there's been a lot happening. Because her stepmom.
- 54:56Morrighan Lynne: This is her stepmom. All right, Mandalynn Are you looking for your mom? Are
- 55:04Morrighan Lynne: you looking for your mom? No. Do you know she's over there, right? Yes.
- 55:12Morrighan Lynne: She's waiting for you. She's not mad at you. Do you think she's mad
- 55:19Morrighan Lynne: at you? Yes. She's not mad at you, I promise. It's gonna be okay.
- 55:27Morrighan Lynne: She actually misses you. She's been looking for you. She misses you, honey. No.
- 55:35Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, she does. There's something in her psyche that's a little bit Hmm. Her
- 55:44Morrighan Lynne: psyche's broken in some way, like whatever happened to her mom, she thinks it's
- 55:53Morrighan Lynne: her fault. Did your mom die in childbirth? No. Answer me again. Did your
- 56:01Morrighan Lynne: mom die in childbirth? Giving birth to you. No. Okay. Do you feel like
- 56:08Morrighan Lynne: it's your fault on some level that she died? it that was a yes
- 56:15Morrighan Lynne: and then it started getting wonky again. Somehow she's blaming herself for her mom
- 56:24Morrighan Lynne: to die or mom dying. Can't get a read on it, it's very different.
- 56:32Jonathan Morgan: Mandalynn, does Morrighan look like your mom?
- 56:44Morrighan Lynne: Yes.
- 56:45Carrie Genzel: Thanks.
- 56:50Jonathan Morgan: So I think there's some attachments.
- 56:54Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 56:54Jonathan Morgan: That's the the attachment.
- 56:56Morrighan Lynne: Well I told you I'm gonna come see you. I'll get to visit you
- 57:01Morrighan Lynne: and your mom one of these days. Is that good? But you gotta be
- 57:07Morrighan Lynne: over there. No. I'm sorry, sweetie, you can't come home with me. Whenever you're
- 57:14Morrighan Lynne: ready, I'm gonna open a door. And I'm gonna open I'm gonna see what
- 57:20Morrighan Lynne: other spirits are in the house because there's there's some I wanna make sure
- 57:27Morrighan Lynne: we get everybody that's ready to go. Right. And let them cross over with
- 57:33Morrighan Lynne: Gabriel and Michael. I would like to speak to the woman. Is the woman
- 57:39Morrighan Lynne: here? I don't think she's here anymore. I actually do feel like she went
- 57:46Morrighan Lynne: with the door. good. Is the woman still in the house? The woman that
- 57:52Morrighan Lynne: was in this room with us. Mandalynn can you answer is is your stepmom
- 57:58Morrighan Lynne: still here? No. She's gone. She's your dad still in the house? Is your
- 58:04Morrighan Lynne: dad still here? Yes. Yes. Is he ready to go? I don't think he's
- 58:10Morrighan Lynne: gonna go. Is he ready to go? Okay, he is ready to go. Good.
- 58:15Morrighan Lynne: All right. So I would like to just ask Gabriel and Michael to open
- 58:21Morrighan Lynne: up a door right here. And any and all spirits that are ready to
- 58:27Morrighan Lynne: go, I'm gonna leave this door open for 24 hours. Take your time. And
- 58:33Morrighan Lynne: then Michael and Gabriel, after the 24 hour mark, if you will shut it
- 58:39Morrighan Lynne: down. No one can can enter back through it. They can only go go
- 58:45Morrighan Lynne: home through it. and then that goes for any spirits that are still in
- 58:51Morrighan Lynne: the basement and any that are connected to the land. This is your opportunity
- 58:58Morrighan Lynne: to be at peace. That REM pod, it's like they're coming upstairs. Walking up
- 59:05Morrighan Lynne: the stairs. Come on in. So if anyone else would like to go through
- 59:11Morrighan Lynne: this door we're gonna leave it open for the next day, 24 hour period.
- 59:17Morrighan Lynne: You're gonna be able to go through whenever you're ready, okay?
- 59:23Jonathan Morgan: All right. Good. That feels better. That feels better.
- 59:30Carrie Genzel: This was a really interesting coming back. You know, the first time that we
- 59:34Carrie Genzel: were here we had to introduce ourselves to the house and to those spirits
- 59:38Carrie Genzel: that may be here and this time I felt like they were like, we
- 59:42Carrie Genzel: know you 'cause the equipment started going off even as we were setting up
- 59:47Carrie Genzel: or you were taking equipment out. The red pods were going off immediately. the
- 59:51Carrie Genzel: ghost meter was completely acting strange the entire night. I've never seen it do
- 59:56Carrie Genzel: that where it's just bouncing, bouncing, bouncing. It was like a it was it
- 1:00:01Carrie Genzel: was like it was like it was weird. It was like there was like
- 1:00:05Carrie Genzel: moving to the beat of something. Yeah. and then, you know, we we started
- 1:00:09Carrie Genzel: downstairs and immediately got connected again with Mandalynn which was was someone that we
- 1:00:14Carrie Genzel: connected with when we were here last time and she was very active. and
- 1:00:19Carrie Genzel: like to use the REM pods and the ghost meters and we heard her
- 1:00:23Carrie Genzel: voice over the spirit box, which is really wild. So it was nice to
- 1:00:27Carrie Genzel: connect with her. But it seemed like there was something else going on this
- 1:00:31Carrie Genzel: time in the house that we didn't detect last time. Yeah.
- 1:00:35Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, it feels like for whatever reason our presence last time it felt resistant.
- 1:00:42Morrighan Lynne: So I think tonight feels very satisfactory to be able to finish it. To
- 1:00:49Morrighan Lynne: it feels complete. Yeah. This house feels complete.
- 1:00:54Carrie Genzel: It does feel like when I think about it, I can feel it here.
- 1:00:57Carrie Genzel: Like I feel it kind of like
- 1:00:59Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. It's an exhale. Yeah. Yeah, a real that's that's my signal too of
- 1:01:04Morrighan Lynne: like
- 1:01:05Carrie Genzel: Okay. I feel really good about the woman upstairs who did not know that
- 1:01:10Carrie Genzel: she had passed, that she had a very eye-opening night where she not only
- 1:01:15Carrie Genzel: realized that, but then ended up crossing over. Mm-hmm. That's a that's a lot
- 1:01:21Carrie Genzel: to take in in one night.
- 1:01:23Jonathan Morgan: Yeah, and some of the things that were up there with her, we really
- 1:01:26Jonathan Morgan: honestly don't know if they were here before or did they come in later
- 1:01:29Jonathan Morgan: or were they just quiet when we were here? Right. You know, have they
- 1:01:33Jonathan Morgan: been here the whole time. So it was really nice to get that clean
- 1:01:36Jonathan Morgan: help and take care of that.
- 1:01:38Carrie Genzel: Yeah. Right. And so we're leaving the door open for the next twenty four
- 1:01:44Carrie Genzel: hours. So anyone else that may be in here or wants to go through,
- 1:01:49Carrie Genzel: that door is open.
- 1:01:51Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, sometimes they need just a minute 'cause it was a lot of energy.
- 1:01:55Morrighan Lynne: And so I like to leave it open for that twenty four hour time
- 1:01:58Morrighan Lynne: frame so that they can decompress, poke their head in, see what it's all
- 1:02:03Morrighan Lynne: about, and then eventually I feel like they go. Yeah. And then those that
- 1:02:07Morrighan Lynne: that doorway is guarded. Yeah. They can only pass through, nothing can come out
- 1:02:12Morrighan Lynne: of it, there's no nefarious activity. It's guarded and protected. Right. Yeah.
- 1:02:17Carrie Genzel: Right. Well I love that. Well I know that as we were o you
- 1:02:20Carrie Genzel: were opening that door and you were calling calling on that to happen, the
- 1:02:25Carrie Genzel: REM pod was going off on the stairs. I felt like maybe some things
- 1:02:29Carrie Genzel: were coming up. Like they like, Ooh, open door. I'm there. Yeah. I hope.
- 1:02:34Carrie Genzel: Yeah.
- 1:02:35Jonathan Morgan: No, that's interesting 'cause we we've had other situations where, you know, open the
- 1:02:40Jonathan Morgan: the portal for whoever wanted to go through to go through, and sometimes like
- 1:02:46Jonathan Morgan: other neighboring spirits or transient spirits just passing by, see the beacon, see, okay,
- 1:02:52Jonathan Morgan: then whatever happens, whatever awareness happens in within them, decide this is the time
- 1:02:58Jonathan Morgan: for me to go. Yeah they
- 1:03:00Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 1:03:02Carrie Genzel: I love that. And I know like we've investigated on this street before multiple
- 1:03:06Carrie Genzel: times. We know there's a lot of activity on this particular avenue and so
- 1:03:10Carrie Genzel: and that there's transient because we've had that too when we investigate where all
- 1:03:14Carrie Genzel: of a sudden they come through and they're like, Hey, what's going
- 1:03:18Morrighan Lynne: The light is on, there's a party.
- 1:03:20Carrie Genzel: And they were like, no one invited us. So it maybe there will be
- 1:03:23Carrie Genzel: a few spirits that will wander through and be like, there's an exit. Yeah.
- 1:03:27Carrie Genzel: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:03:28Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, I hope so. Yeah.
- 1:03:30Carrie Genzel: Awesome. Well this this does feel complete. There's no other way to say it.
- 1:03:34Carrie Genzel: That's
- 1:03:35Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, it's at rest.
- 1:03:36Carrie Genzel: like really wonderful to say because you don't always get that in an investigation.
- 1:03:40Carrie Genzel: Where you're there's a lot of times there's more questions than there were before
- 1:03:45Carrie Genzel: you started, but I don't feel like that with this property. Yeah.
- 1:03:49Jonathan Morgan: Mm. This feels really good. Very clean, very complete. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:03:54Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, I'm happy.
- 1:03:55Carrie Genzel: Yeah, me too. Awesome. That's it.
- 1:03:59Carrie Genzel: When we left this house after our first investigation, we knew there were questions
- 1:04:07Carrie Genzel: we hadn't answered. What we didn't know was where those questions would lead us
- 1:04:14Carrie Genzel: when we returned. Mandalynn had been one of the strongest connections we'd made the
- 1:04:23Carrie Genzel: first time we were here. This time she was asking us for help. And
- 1:04:29Carrie Genzel: what followed took the investigation somewhere had expected to go. There are investigations that
- 1:04:38Carrie Genzel: leave us with more questions than answers. This wasn't one of them. By the
- 1:04:46Carrie Genzel: time we walked out of this house for the final time, something felt different.
- 1:04:53Carrie Genzel: This house was quiet. The work felt finished. And for once we were able
- 1:05:00Carrie Genzel: to leave without wondering what we'd left behind. If you've had an unexplained experience
- 1:05:09Carrie Genzel: or would like to request an investigation, visit echoesofthesouth.com. Join us as we continue
- 1:05:18Carrie Genzel: uncovering the stories, the history, and the mysteries. That echo throughout the South. Until
- 1:05:27Carrie Genzel: next time, stay close.
- 1:05:30Carrie Genzel: Hey guys, how are you?
- 1:05:33Jonthan Morgan: doing great. Hello.
- 1:05:34Morrighan Lynne: Ready, ready for some conversation.
- 1:05:37Carrie Genzel: Absolutely. There is a lot of echoes to explain in these two episodes, probably
- 1:05:42Carrie Genzel: more than any of our investigations. So I'm looking forward to diving
- 1:05:47Jonthan Morgan: Mm.
- 1:05:48Carrie Genzel: in and jumping into some of this evidence. I think like the first thing
- 1:05:53Carrie Genzel: that really jumped out to me that I've never experienced, and and Jon I'm
- 1:05:58Carrie Genzel: gonna direct this to you to start, is that door knock that we got
- 1:06:03Carrie Genzel: in the basement, which happened pretty quickly. Of us going down there and then
- 1:06:08Carrie Genzel: later the same night getting that EVP sound that sounds like the door knock
- 1:06:14Carrie Genzel: after you saying, Come on, you can do it. I know you can do
- 1:06:18Carrie Genzel: it. It's so crazy to me. Have you ever experienced something like that? Have
- 1:06:24Carrie Genzel: you gotten a piece of evidence like that where later you go back and
- 1:06:29Carrie Genzel: you're like, wow, it it sounds like something did knock on the door?
- 1:06:34Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, I've not had sounds like that, bumps or creaks or knocks. I've not
- 1:06:39Jonthan Morgan: had that. We've heard it in live time, like real time with our ears,
- 1:06:44Jonthan Morgan: but not E V P. I've I've had whispers, we've had voices, words, whatever,
- 1:06:50Jonthan Morgan: but not knocks, bumps and heavy hitting. So that's pretty
- 1:06:55Carrie Genzel: Yeah.
- 1:06:56Jonthan Morgan: phenomenal.
- 1:06:57Carrie Genzel: Yeah. It's pretty wild to me to listen to and to do when I
- 1:07:01Carrie Genzel: discovered it when I was editing. And I I really had to go back
- 1:07:05Carrie Genzel: and look at all the angles and like go, okay, where is everybody? Nobody's
- 1:07:11Carrie Genzel: near anything that would make that noise. And no one else was in the
- 1:07:15Carrie Genzel: house. So and it just sounds so much like the original noise we heard
- 1:07:20Carrie Genzel: when we heard when Morrighan like reacted to that. Bang.
- 1:07:25Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, it does. It sounds just like it. 'cause you can tell the first
- 1:07:29Jonthan Morgan: time it happened, we were in the room, we all reacted. We're like, Okay,
- 1:07:33Jonthan Morgan: she just locked it. And then hearing it again, it's the same sound.
- 1:07:38Carrie Genzel: Yeah, it's really, really, really wild. I'm gonna play it really quickly
- 1:08:00Jonthan Morgan: Yep, Morrighan. She heard it.
- 1:08:23Carrie Genzel: Now, what's really trippy is that you see my camera go all wonky. So
- 1:08:28Carrie Genzel: my camera has an AI capability on it. The gimbal has an AI capability
- 1:08:34Carrie Genzel: on it. So it follows me wherever I go. And for some reason, right
- 1:08:39Carrie Genzel: before that, it goes to the door. That's what's happening to the camera.
- 1:08:46Morrighan Lynne: wow.
- 1:08:46Carrie Genzel: Instead of staying on me, the camera, you see it whip around, it's focused
- 1:08:51Carrie Genzel: on the door. And I'm not
- 1:08:53Morrighan Lynne: wow.
- 1:08:53Carrie Genzel: at the door. There's nothing at the door. So something
- 1:08:56Morrighan Lynne: you
- 1:08:57Carrie Genzel: triggered the AI for it to focus on the door, which is another part
- 1:09:01Carrie Genzel: of it that I think is really wild. That's why you see the camera
- 1:09:06Carrie Genzel: go all crazy. And I'm like, what was it? What triggered it to do
- 1:09:10Carrie Genzel: that? So there was something I think spiritually going on there where it was
- 1:09:16Carrie Genzel: we definitely heard something physically a noise, but then also. In terms of the
- 1:09:22Carrie Genzel: technology, it seemed to affect that where it like pulled focus to that door,
- 1:09:27Carrie Genzel: which
- 1:09:28Morrighan Lynne: Hahaha
- 1:09:29Carrie Genzel: I'm glad it did because we caught it.
- 1:09:31Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 1:09:32Carrie Genzel: We caught that moment to show in the moment there was nobody there. Right.
- 1:09:36Carrie Genzel: But it that was just completely serendipitous because the camera did that by itself.
- 1:09:41Carrie Genzel: That's why you see me going, Hello, what are you doing? I couldn't figure
- 1:09:46Carrie Genzel: out what the camera was doing. Right. So sometimes the spirits are working with
- 1:09:51Carrie Genzel: us as crew.
- 1:09:52Morrighan Lynne: Ha ha.
- 1:09:53Carrie Genzel: They're like, You're gonna want this shot.
- 1:09:53Jonthan Morgan: It's almost like someone said, here.
- 1:09:56Carrie Genzel: You're gonna want this shot. and I'm gonna play this part really quick where
- 1:10:07Carrie Genzel: we got later in the night, Jon, when you're asking for it to knock.
- 1:10:18Carrie Genzel: Clearly had more than we thought. It sounds like the same noise. None of
- 1:10:29Carrie Genzel: us reacted in the room.
- 1:10:33Morrighan Lynne: and none of us reacted. None of us reacted.
- 1:10:38Carrie Genzel: And none of us are near anything. Jon standing up. Michael is seated with
- 1:10:42Carrie Genzel: the camera. So he's just sitting on the floor. You can tell by the
- 1:10:46Carrie Genzel: camera angle. And you and I, Morrighan, are sitting in the corner, not near
- 1:10:50Carrie Genzel: the wall.
- 1:10:51Morrighan Lynne: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- 1:10:54Carrie Genzel: It's you're not moving at all.
- 1:10:53Jonthan Morgan: I've got my my feet planted, you know, so it I'm not moving.
- 1:10:58Morrighan Lynne: Fascinating.
- 1:10:59Carrie Genzel: It's so fascinating to me. I love it. I love that. It's the
- 1:11:04Jonthan Morgan: And it's the same sound. It's the same sound.
- 1:11:06Carrie Genzel: same noise. And then you know, the spirit's probably like, I did it.
- 1:11:12Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 1:11:12Morrighan Lynne: We keep asking, but he's like, I did.
- 1:11:15Carrie Genzel: Come on, we know you can do it. He's like, I just did it.
- 1:11:17Carrie Genzel: Yeah. I
- 1:11:18Jonthan Morgan: Mm.
- 1:11:19Carrie Genzel: think it's really wild when you get to go back and look at that
- 1:11:23Carrie Genzel: and you're like, wow, it really did, it really did do what we asked
- 1:11:28Carrie Genzel: it to do.
- 1:11:29Jonthan Morgan: It really proves that like half of the investigation is the review afterwards. It's
- 1:11:34Jonthan Morgan: like 'cause picking all this stuff up later and 'cause we didn't hear that
- 1:11:39Jonthan Morgan: at the time, having to
- 1:11:41Carrie Genzel: No.
- 1:11:42Jonthan Morgan: do that review.
- 1:11:44Carrie Genzel: I was just saying that the other day and I was writing about it,
- 1:11:47Carrie Genzel: that I've really started to look at these investigations differently since we've started doing
- 1:11:53Carrie Genzel: them. That there's the the physical investigation when we're all there, but then there's
- 1:11:58Carrie Genzel: the investigation of Jon's evidence review and the investigation
- 1:12:02Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:12:02Carrie Genzel: that goes on while I'm editing, that I discover things that I didn't even
- 1:12:07Carrie Genzel: know we had. And so there are there's like different facets of the investigation.
- 1:12:13Carrie Genzel: That are really exciting. And Jon I get
- 1:12:16Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:12:16Carrie Genzel: just as excited when I discover those things and I send them over. I'm
- 1:12:20Carrie Genzel: like, can you listen to this? What does this sound like to you? It's
- 1:12:24Carrie Genzel: really exciting to discover just that we had more activity than we even realized
- 1:12:29Carrie Genzel: in the moment and how different it is to be in the moment and
- 1:12:33Carrie Genzel: to listen then just watching and listening through the microphones. It's, you know, Morrighan,
- 1:12:39Carrie Genzel: I think we were talking about this the other day of how even with
- 1:12:44Carrie Genzel: with, Well, definitely with EVPs, but with the ghost box or even any kind
- 1:12:48Carrie Genzel: of audio anomaly that may be in the room, it's so different being there
- 1:12:53Carrie Genzel: when you're trying in the moment to listen and overcome maybe the static of
- 1:12:58Carrie Genzel: the box or the environment, and then just watching it at home in a
- 1:13:02Carrie Genzel: quiet space with headphones on and go, wait a minute, you know, it's so
- 1:13:06Carrie Genzel: much easier to pull out those moments. and I think maybe too like As
- 1:13:11Carrie Genzel: I investigate more, I might get better in the moment. But it's just, it's
- 1:13:15Carrie Genzel: a very different experience being there, sitting in the dark, right? Than being
- 1:13:21Morrighan Lynne: Hahaha.
- 1:13:22Carrie Genzel: in the editing room, like going, wait a second, what let's rewind that? Because
- 1:13:27Carrie Genzel: you can't rewind life.
- 1:13:29Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 1:13:29Carrie Genzel: I mean, you know, you can with when you have a recorder and you're
- 1:13:32Carrie Genzel: trying to record EVPs, but in terms of the ghost box and things like
- 1:13:35Carrie Genzel: that, you know, you can't just stop the investigation and be like, let's rewind
- 1:13:39Carrie Genzel: that. You never get finished. So It's exciting for me.
- 1:13:42Morrighan Lynne: We keep that well and we keep asking them to repeat that I didn't
- 1:13:45Morrighan Lynne: hear that and they never listen they never give it to us again. I'm
- 1:13:48Morrighan Lynne: like up In the door
- 1:13:50Carrie Genzel: but wait, they did in episode seven. When you kept asking,
- 1:13:53Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 1:13:56Carrie Genzel: why are you here?
- 1:14:00Jonthan Morgan: right. Yeah.
- 1:14:00Morrighan Lynne: I mean, maybe sometimes. Yeah.
- 1:14:02Carrie Genzel: They repeated it three or four times. Right.
- 1:14:05Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:14:07Carrie Genzel: that's a first for me. I've never had Why Are You Here? Torture come
- 1:14:11Carrie Genzel: through the spirit box. One of my favorite moments of the episode is Morrighan's
- 1:14:17Carrie Genzel: face when she hears it and knows what she heard. And she's like, You
- 1:14:22Carrie Genzel: say it again. Say it again.
- 1:14:24Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, that's my big voice. That's my, right, here we go. We're doing this.
- 1:14:27Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:14:28Morrighan Lynne: This is happening. Cause that's, that's
- 1:14:30Carrie Genzel: Yeah.
- 1:14:31Morrighan Lynne: a, it's a moment. Like it's what I'm always listening for because for me,
- 1:14:36Morrighan Lynne: safety is first. And so as long as all of the answers are copacetic
- 1:14:41Morrighan Lynne: and the tone feels open or even like if they're not happy, we're there
- 1:14:46Morrighan Lynne: as long as their tone is agreeable to some degree, then we're okay. But
- 1:14:52Morrighan Lynne: when it starts getting aggressive or there's a, even a, hint of challenge then
- 1:14:57Morrighan Lynne: the vibe is about to change.
- 1:15:00Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, you're you're tuning into the room, but you're also tuning into the house
- 1:15:04Jonthan Morgan: and keeping everything safe, everyone safe. So you're you're watching
- 1:15:09Morrighan Lynne: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- 1:15:09Carrie Genzel: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:11Jonthan Morgan: that.
- 1:15:11Carrie Genzel: Well, and this was
- 1:15:12Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 1:15:12Carrie Genzel: a different, you know, this was a situation too where where Mandalynn who we
- 1:15:16Carrie Genzel: encountered the first time, had come forward to ask for help. And so that
- 1:15:21Carrie Genzel: immediately changes the vibe, right?
- 1:15:24Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:15:26Carrie Genzel: because that's always our intention moving in to any investigation is to be of
- 1:15:31Carrie Genzel: service, right? Whether it's to the living or the dead. And so when you
- 1:15:36Carrie Genzel: have a spirit, especially a young girl who we've already connected with, who's afraid.
- 1:15:42Jonthan Morgan: Right. Right.
- 1:15:43Carrie Genzel: and and then you you're like, There's something here that wasn't here before. Well,
- 1:15:47Carrie Genzel: that just kicks it into a a different level.
- 1:15:50Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, yeah. And you know, that's a really good setup. You wanna see the
- 1:15:56Jonthan Morgan: the orb, the anomaly.
- 1:15:58Carrie Genzel: Yes, let's get in. Or I don't think that we've gotten this many orb
- 1:16:02Carrie Genzel: captures in one
- 1:16:03Jonthan Morgan: my god, I know.
- 1:16:04Carrie Genzel: location as we did in this house. So Jon dive in. I know you've
- 1:16:07Carrie Genzel: got a lot of them. I know.
- 1:16:09Jonthan Morgan: no, I am,
- 1:16:09Morrighan Lynne: Jon excited.
- 1:16:11Jonthan Morgan: let me find my right screen. Here we are. Okay, good. Yeah, this basement
- 1:16:17Jonthan Morgan: had quite a few orbs, like more than I've ever seen. Now, granted, you
- 1:16:24Jonthan Morgan: know, it's it's impossible to tell if if some of them wasn't simply dust
- 1:16:30Jonthan Morgan: floating by. However, there's the majority of them, you're like, no, that is intelligent.
- 1:16:39Jonthan Morgan: There is something here. So let me share. We'll just pop to the first
- 1:16:45Jonthan Morgan: one here. Now this is we were there like this is the first five
- 1:16:51Jonthan Morgan: minutes. We're still getting everything set up. Here's two right here. And I just
- 1:16:59Jonthan Morgan: put down the XLS as as I'm trying to find where do I actually
- 1:17:04Jonthan Morgan: want to put it. So those two popped up. And that's Morrighan on the
- 1:17:10Jonthan Morgan: right. Bam.
- 1:17:12Morrighan Lynne: Bam!
- 1:17:11Jonthan Morgan: Right, I know you like that, right? Bam.
- 1:17:13Carrie Genzel: Bam.
- 1:17:15Jonthan Morgan: This we believe is Mandalynn
- 1:17:19Morrighan Lynne: Mm-hmm.
- 1:17:21Jonthan Morgan: She is right by Morrighan's hip, like staying right
- 1:17:24Morrighan Lynne: Mm-hmm.
- 1:17:24Jonthan Morgan: by her side.
- 1:17:27Carrie Genzel: And that does track based on the information we were getting from her and
- 1:17:31Carrie Genzel: what Morrighan was picking up, because she was really frightened and she felt very
- 1:17:37Carrie Genzel: safe with Morrighan. And Morrighan, you even say, Come and stand later, right? When
- 1:17:42Carrie Genzel: we're you're saying we're gonna go upstairs, and she was hesitant, and you said,
- 1:17:47Carrie Genzel: Come and stand right here, right? And I would think I'm gonna ask you,
- 1:17:52Carrie Genzel: but I would think that you instinctively maybe knew that she had already kind
- 1:17:57Carrie Genzel: of been there with you and
- 1:17:59Morrighan Lynne: I mean, you know, there's a lot that happens in there, right? Because I,
- 1:18:02Morrighan Lynne: like Jon said, I'm paying attention to the house. I'm paying attention to the
- 1:18:06Morrighan Lynne: room. I'm watching all of us and then noticing the shifts in this. So
- 1:18:10Morrighan Lynne: there, I didn't actively know that she was there by me. But when I
- 1:18:14Morrighan Lynne: look at this, I feel her. I know that's her. It reminds me of
- 1:18:17Morrighan Lynne: when my son was younger and he was so shy, he would like hide
- 1:18:20Morrighan Lynne: behind me. And so that is where he would hide behind. Like they, you
- 1:18:24Morrighan Lynne: know, they just kind of hide behind
- 1:18:26Carrie Genzel: Right. And I love
- 1:18:28Morrighan Lynne: mom, you know? Mm-hmm.
- 1:18:29Carrie Genzel: yeah. And I love like that day you happened to be wearing like a
- 1:18:32Carrie Genzel: it was it a dress or is it like
- 1:18:34Morrighan Lynne: Mm-hmm.
- 1:18:35Carrie Genzel: yeah. So you think about a a child who's afraid and like how I
- 1:18:37Carrie Genzel: know I did, you'd hide in your mom's skirt or dress, right? Because it
- 1:18:40Carrie Genzel: felt safe, right? I'm just gonna tuck myself in here and so it definitely
- 1:18:43Carrie Genzel: gives that
- 1:18:44Morrighan Lynne: Right, Yeah. Very sweet.
- 1:18:50Carrie Genzel: energy. That's such a great capture, Jon.
- 1:18:53Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, I love it. And and again, within like the first few minutes, so
- 1:18:57Jonthan Morgan: yeah, she's right there by her side. And you know, it it again, it
- 1:19:02Jonthan Morgan: speaks to there was something different about the second visit. The it maybe we
- 1:19:08Jonthan Morgan: just didn't see it before, maybe the energy wasn't there, maybe what was there
- 1:19:14Jonthan Morgan: this night wasn't there the first night, maybe they were just quiet, who knows?
- 1:19:19Jonthan Morgan: But the energy was different. And so, like Morrighan's saying, her standing by her
- 1:19:25Jonthan Morgan: side, looking for like like protection, safekeeping. Yeah.
- 1:19:30Morrighan Lynne: Well, we were familiar to her and I
- 1:19:32Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:19:32Morrighan Lynne: actually feel like what was there that night was something new. I don't feel
- 1:19:36Morrighan Lynne: like we missed it last time.
- 1:19:38Jonthan Morgan: Mm.
- 1:19:39Morrighan Lynne: And who knows why, and maybe just, you know, for the sake of they
- 1:19:43Morrighan Lynne: were just new, they weren't there before, she was afraid. And so she's normally
- 1:19:48Morrighan Lynne: up on the top floor and we're in the basement area. So she had
- 1:19:53Morrighan Lynne: to have left her comfort to come down to us. that tells me how
- 1:19:57Morrighan Lynne: afraid she was. And so
- 1:19:59Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:20:00Morrighan Lynne: she just remembered us, I think, and so felt safer downstairs than
- 1:20:04Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:20:04Morrighan Lynne: upstairs.
- 1:20:06Jonthan Morgan: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:20:06Carrie Genzel: Yeah. And I think in terms of that energy not being there before, we've
- 1:20:10Carrie Genzel: investigated multiple locations on that same street and we've always encountered a lot of
- 1:20:15Carrie Genzel: transient energy on that street. You know, so it could
- 1:20:19Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:20:20Carrie Genzel: just be, you know, something that was floating down the road and was like,
- 1:20:24Carrie Genzel: Hey, there's no one in this place. There's just a empty house with some
- 1:20:29Carrie Genzel: souls in it. Let's go.
- 1:20:31Jonthan Morgan: Right, right. Yeah.
- 1:20:33Carrie Genzel: All right, who d who else did you capture, Jon?
- 1:20:36Jonthan Morgan: So we let's see, we got that one and the I there there's one
- 1:20:41Jonthan Morgan: more I want to show because I think it's pretty pretty cool. so we're
- 1:20:47Jonthan Morgan: gonna look like behind her over this direction, and then it's gonna move above
- 1:20:54Jonthan Morgan: Morrighan's head. So let me just position this a little bit so we can
- 1:21:00Jonthan Morgan: see it. There's something on the door right here. And we're boom right there.
- 1:21:06Jonthan Morgan: It popped up right behind her neck.
- 1:21:10Morrighan Lynne: Mm.
- 1:21:13Carrie Genzel: in the in the episode before, which was our first visit to this house,
- 1:21:17Carrie Genzel: you
- 1:21:18Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:21:19Carrie Genzel: also captured one right next to Morrighan's head before we went into the crawl
- 1:21:21Carrie Genzel: space. And it
- 1:21:22Jonthan Morgan: Right. Right.
- 1:21:25Carrie Genzel: looked quite big. Like, yeah. It
- 1:21:28Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:21:29Carrie Genzel: it that one w really captured my attention too. And I highlight that
- 1:21:31Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:21:32Carrie Genzel: in the episode. It's like that's a boom, like a bam. Like right. Like,
- 1:21:33Carrie Genzel: what's she about? What's she all about?
- 1:21:35Jonthan Morgan: Yeah. That that happened. That happened.
- 1:21:36Morrighan Lynne: They were checking us out.
- 1:21:40Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:21:41Carrie Genzel: Yeah, which is exciting. All right. Let's jump into what are we? I don't
- 1:21:44Carrie Genzel: even know what to call it. I call it the clearing. Is that we
- 1:21:47Carrie Genzel: cleared it out. We we we got out the
- 1:21:49Jonthan Morgan: The clearing. That's that's perfect because that's that's what happened. We cleared it.
- 1:21:52Morrighan Lynne: That's good.
- 1:21:56Carrie Genzel: broom and cleared it out.
- 1:21:58Jonthan Morgan: Yes, we did.
- 1:21:58Carrie Genzel: and I have not been a part of something like that with you two
- 1:22:03Carrie Genzel: in that in that regard. typically we're working with you know, trauma-based spirits that
- 1:22:11Carrie Genzel: may feel trapped or lost. and so I do know that when I hear
- 1:22:16Carrie Genzel: the shift in Morrighan's voice and her body language to like,
- 1:22:22Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 1:22:22Carrie Genzel: you know, I'm just gonna stand down. I'm just gonna let the professionals take,
- 1:22:24Carrie Genzel: I'm just gonna hang on for the ride. And that's basically,
- 1:22:26Morrighan Lynne: Just hang on.
- 1:22:27Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:32Carrie Genzel: basically what I did. But for
- 1:22:34Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 1:22:34Carrie Genzel: those people that may not have, experienced something like that or may not have
- 1:22:39Carrie Genzel: understood exactly what was going on. maybe you if you can quickly kind of
- 1:22:44Carrie Genzel: walk us through that process of what you know, what you felt in initially
- 1:22:49Carrie Genzel: to kind of turn in in that direction and and get into a different
- 1:22:54Carrie Genzel: mode. Cause Jon, even in the episode downstairs, we see you preparing, right, as
- 1:23:00Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:23:01Carrie Genzel: well. Right. So you
- 1:23:01Jonthan Morgan: I was. Yeah.
- 1:23:02Carrie Genzel: both shift dramatically in that moment where you both know, it's it's game time,
- 1:23:07Carrie Genzel: right? So
- 1:23:08Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:23:09Carrie Genzel: for those people that may not be familiar, let maybe sort of talk about
- 1:23:12Carrie Genzel: what kind of indicate that you know indicates that that's the next course of
- 1:23:17Carrie Genzel: action. And now we're in a different, we're not just talking to Mandalynn and
- 1:23:21Carrie Genzel: how are you? And you know, what what what color is your dress? We're
- 1:23:24Carrie Genzel: now in a different,
- 1:23:26Morrighan Lynne: Thank
- 1:23:27Carrie Genzel: a different situation.
- 1:23:29Morrighan Lynne: Yeah. Yeah, for me, it's, it's definitely energetic. There's a, like, I'm listening to
- 1:23:34Morrighan Lynne: the ghost box or, you know, listening to what's going on in the room.
- 1:23:39Morrighan Lynne: When there's a very specific frequency. And I think what I want to say
- 1:23:44Morrighan Lynne: to the audience, number one is the universe is vast and there are a
- 1:23:48Morrighan Lynne: lot of things out there. Okay. So I want to kind of bring it
- 1:23:53Morrighan Lynne: and level set it to a place where it's really normal. What, what we're
- 1:23:57Morrighan Lynne: doing and what we come across as normal. we're just not all aware of
- 1:24:02Morrighan Lynne: it. So it's okay, they're there. But whenever we are investigating, we are also
- 1:24:07Morrighan Lynne: illuminated more because we have the intention to make contact. Given. that I also
- 1:24:13Morrighan Lynne: have a reputation on that side, they don't like me. So there's a little
- 1:24:18Morrighan Lynne: bit of that going on. But there's a feeling where it's like an energy
- 1:24:23Morrighan Lynne: sweeps through the room. there's a like when you downshift a car, and you
- 1:24:28Morrighan Lynne: hear that drag and it gets heavier and it gets deeper, I feel that
- 1:24:32Morrighan Lynne: in my body. And so when that downshift happens, it's no longer fun and
- 1:24:37Morrighan Lynne: light and flirty and you know, all that. there's a seriousness that lands. And
- 1:24:42Morrighan Lynne: so again, because I'm attuning myself to safety always, I'm always watching for that
- 1:24:48Morrighan Lynne: moment. Another indicator that I knew they were not friendlies is they were stabbing
- 1:24:54Morrighan Lynne: me in the back. So there was a little bit
- 1:24:57Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:24:58Morrighan Lynne: of that where I have physical pain. I know that they're mad. I know
- 1:25:02Morrighan Lynne: that they don't want us there. They will try to... scare us because they
- 1:25:07Morrighan Lynne: think we're normal everyday people and if they hurt us then we'll be afraid
- 1:25:11Morrighan Lynne: of them and we'll leave. They underestimate us because that's exactly why we're there
- 1:25:17Morrighan Lynne: and so there's just a little bit of a challenge like I see what
- 1:25:21Morrighan Lynne: you're doing but I'm not going anywhere we're going to take care of this
- 1:25:26Morrighan Lynne: and so that's that's my approach that's where I am energetically when that's happening.
- 1:25:32Carrie Genzel: Right. Yeah. And Jon, I know like before we even went upstairs to that
- 1:25:37Carrie Genzel: room, you were you physically see you preparing like your space and and energetically
- 1:25:44Carrie Genzel: getting ready and protecting
- 1:25:47Jonthan Morgan: Anything.
- 1:25:47Carrie Genzel: yourself. And you know, Morrighan, you always protect all of us, you know, in
- 1:25:51Carrie Genzel: the room, the you, the living and the dead, you know, that you've
- 1:25:55Morrighan Lynne: right.
- 1:25:56Carrie Genzel: got us. I never once felt like nervous about what was happening. or unsure
- 1:26:01Carrie Genzel: or I I had no doubt that you all had it handled and I
- 1:26:05Carrie Genzel: just needed to, you know, strap in and get ready to yeah. Get get
- 1:26:10Carrie Genzel: ready for the roller coaster.
- 1:26:13Morrighan Lynne: Document it.
- 1:26:18Carrie Genzel: you know, and and so that feels really good because there is I have
- 1:26:21Carrie Genzel: that that trust in in you both of okay, let's go, let's do this.
- 1:26:25Carrie Genzel: And I feel the same way of like this can't, you're this shouldn't be
- 1:26:29Carrie Genzel: happening here. This is not right. Like we need to take care of this.
- 1:26:33Carrie Genzel: and Jon, what is that process like for for you when you're like, okay,
- 1:26:38Carrie Genzel: let's let's get
- 1:26:39Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:26:40Carrie Genzel: ready and right? It's it's no no longer about the tech. It's like, let's
- 1:26:45Carrie Genzel: go.
- 1:26:46Jonthan Morgan: Yeah. Yeah, there's a few signals for me. I'm I'm listening to what's being
- 1:26:51Jonthan Morgan: said on the Ghost Box. I'm feeling my own sensitivity to the room, to
- 1:26:56Jonthan Morgan: the house, and I'm watching her. I'm watching her reactions. She has we've worked
- 1:27:02Jonthan Morgan: with each other for s so long now. There's there's subtle energy shifts with
- 1:27:08Jonthan Morgan: her and subtle ways that she will shift her her stance or her tone.
- 1:27:12Jonthan Morgan: And I'm listening, I'm watching, because we're we've got each other's back. And so
- 1:27:18Jonthan Morgan: and and you'll see in the episode, there's a moment where we kind of
- 1:27:23Jonthan Morgan: like look at each other and we're like, yeah, okay, we we need to
- 1:27:28Jonthan Morgan: do something about this. And then that's when
- 1:27:32Morrighan Lynne: Yeah.
- 1:27:33Jonthan Morgan: and I myself, I I do like a dry brushing of like doing my
- 1:27:37Jonthan Morgan: energy and and kind of charging up. And then I I open myself up
- 1:27:41Jonthan Morgan: to like divine white light and bring it in. It's like all right, game
- 1:27:46Jonthan Morgan: on.
- 1:27:47Carrie Genzel: We we see that in the episode and you're doing that even before we
- 1:27:51Carrie Genzel: go upstairs in terms of the brushing and that you really do get a
- 1:27:55Carrie Genzel: sense of that. And I'm gonna play a a clip from that. But one
- 1:27:59Carrie Genzel: thing I do wanna say that I think everyone that when they watch it
- 1:28:04Carrie Genzel: is you really do see how you work together as a team and that
- 1:28:08Carrie Genzel: there's years of history of working together in mutual love and respect and and
- 1:28:13Carrie Genzel: experience with this because you really do get that what you're witnessing is like
- 1:28:19Carrie Genzel: two individuals working as one for one goal. It was really powerful to be
- 1:28:24Carrie Genzel: in the room. I've said this before, and I wanna I'm I wanna give
- 1:28:28Carrie Genzel: you both the floor and it so we can talk about it. But I
- 1:28:32Carrie Genzel: I had never experienced that it live. And so and and I've said this
- 1:28:37Carrie Genzel: to you, Jon, like when you said I'm gonna vocalize, that wasn't at all
- 1:28:41Carrie Genzel: what I thought was about to happen. I was like, whoa, hey. it was
- 1:28:46Carrie Genzel: so powerful, but then I think that. You know, there was so much going
- 1:28:50Carrie Genzel: on in my mind when you said Morrighan, there's something in my back. I
- 1:28:55Carrie Genzel: was like, those little really? Like
- 1:28:58Jonthan Morgan: Right.
- 1:29:00Carrie Genzel: and and then just to see you all working together in the care and
- 1:29:03Carrie Genzel: the love and just the like calm of like, okay, wait, I got this.
- 1:29:07Carrie Genzel: Okay, give me a minute. Okay, you know, and just sort of seeing you
- 1:29:11Carrie Genzel: two work together as a team, I thought was really beautiful and and really
- 1:29:16Carrie Genzel: cool. But I had never seen anything like that. So for For those people
- 1:29:20Carrie Genzel: like myself that are like, what did I witness tonight? Jon, I'm gonna start
- 1:29:25Carrie Genzel: with you because we start with you and the vocalization and and what that
- 1:29:29Carrie Genzel: is. And
- 1:29:30Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:29:31Carrie Genzel: and then we'll we'll move into what Morrighan was experiencing and how you work
- 1:29:36Carrie Genzel: together.
- 1:29:37Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, yeah. So I'll start with Dai Ko Myo Dai Ko Myo literally means
- 1:29:43Jonthan Morgan: great shining light. It's great being of the universe, shine upon me. It's a
- 1:29:49Jonthan Morgan: it's a master symbol in a Usui Reiki. I'm a master teacher in in
- 1:29:55Jonthan Morgan: Reiki, also a certified teacher in Spring Forest Qigung Healing. So a lot of
- 1:30:02Jonthan Morgan: energy work. The Dai Ko Myo is also you know it's it's used in
- 1:30:07Jonthan Morgan: Reiki to help magnify and enhance other symbols and it's you you have your
- 1:30:14Jonthan Morgan: attunement at the master master level, but it's also used for clearing. It's also
- 1:30:21Jonthan Morgan: used for removing negative energies from a environment or expelling entities. And when I
- 1:30:29Jonthan Morgan: saw she did that with her back, I'm like, hell no. You are game
- 1:30:35Jonthan Morgan: over. Everybody out.
- 1:30:37Morrighan Lynne: Nobody messes with my woman.
- 1:30:37Jonthan Morgan: So that's that's right, that's right. So it's bringing in divine light, divine energy,
- 1:30:44Jonthan Morgan: from from source and clearing the room of any negativity. And it's quite powerful.
- 1:30:52Carrie Genzel: Yeah, I mean, I felt that in the room and I know Michael behind
- 1:30:55Carrie Genzel: the camera and I talked about it too. And we were like, wow, that
- 1:30:58Carrie Genzel: was a really powerful moment. Morrighan,
- 1:31:00Jonthan Morgan: Yeah.
- 1:31:00Carrie Genzel: what were you experiencing in that moment? Cause, you know, your experience in that
- 1:31:05Carrie Genzel: moment is very different. And and then to see you see that you're physically
- 1:31:10Carrie Genzel: feeling something.
- 1:31:12Morrighan Lynne: Yeah, yeah. It's not uncommon to be attacked like that when you're challenging these,
- 1:31:18Morrighan Lynne: these beings that really want to run amok. And here we come with our
- 1:31:22Morrighan Lynne: boundaries and our, you know, like, you don't get to do this. So they're
- 1:31:27Morrighan Lynne: going to push back. It's very normal, right? And I'm used to feeling pains
- 1:31:33Morrighan Lynne: in my body on that level. So I've learned not to just pull out
- 1:31:37Morrighan Lynne: what is in my body. So I've learned to read it, hold it long
- 1:31:41Morrighan Lynne: enough so I can get a really clear idea of the of the item
- 1:31:45Morrighan Lynne: of the weapon. And so you hear me say like, want to do a
- 1:31:49Morrighan Lynne: little bit of psychic surgery. It's quite literally what it means opening up the
- 1:31:55Morrighan Lynne: the astral flesh to open up to be able to remove the weapon instead
- 1:32:00Morrighan Lynne: of just pulling it out because they're smart. They put barbs on it. If
- 1:32:05Morrighan Lynne: you pull something out that has barbs on it, it's going to damage your
- 1:32:10Morrighan Lynne: astral body even more. And so they're hoping, they're hoping I'm stupid. That's all
- 1:32:16Morrighan Lynne: that's happening. And so I just, I've learned to not be hasty whenever I'm
- 1:32:21Morrighan Lynne: removing things like that. But yeah, Jon and I have done this for years.
- 1:32:26Morrighan Lynne: I put all, all my trust in him. we hold each other in that
- 1:32:30Morrighan Lynne: moment. And then again, holding the room, because you know, you and Michael are
- 1:32:36Morrighan Lynne: there, we're watching you, we're watching Mandalynn just making sure everyone's safe, but also
- 1:32:42Morrighan Lynne: not putting up with it. That's the thing I've learned about the paranormal and
- 1:32:48Morrighan Lynne: the darker end of paranormal is they really just want to frighten you because
- 1:32:53Morrighan Lynne: if you're frightened, then they control you. Well, no. That doesn't get to happen
- 1:32:59Morrighan Lynne: on my watch. And so it's why I believe in educating our audience about
- 1:33:04Morrighan Lynne: it, making sure people know what is happening so that we can demystify the
- 1:33:09Morrighan Lynne: conversation. Because I believe education is power. And if you know when something is
- 1:33:15Morrighan Lynne: called something, you know what to do about it, then there's less, you have
- 1:33:21Morrighan Lynne: less likelihood of being afraid of it.
- 1:33:24Carrie Genzel: Yeah. And helping those souls that were that they were torturing in the house,
- 1:33:26Carrie Genzel: you know, of being of service to them. And the woman
- 1:33:28Morrighan Lynne: yes. Yeah.
- 1:33:31Carrie Genzel: that didn't know that she had passed, we had another tangerine moment.
- 1:33:35Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:33:36Carrie Genzel: the woman who didn't know that she had passed, who had a great awakening
- 1:33:39Carrie Genzel: in that moment of, Hey, I'm I passed and holy smokes, what's happening here?
- 1:33:43Carrie Genzel: And she ended up crossing Yeah. I mean,
- 1:33:45Jonthan Morgan: Yeah, and
- 1:33:45Morrighan Lynne: she's suddenly awake.
- 1:33:47Jonthan Morgan: And also
- 1:33:48Carrie Genzel: she ended up crossing over, which was wonderful.
- 1:33:51Jonthan Morgan: Right. Also helping the people who live in the house, the owners are are,
- 1:33:54Jonthan Morgan: you know, the next owners of the house. 'Cause, you know, they don't want
- 1:33:57Jonthan Morgan: that in there. Clearing
- 1:33:58Carrie Genzel: Right. And clearing all that energy out.
- 1:34:00Jonthan Morgan: it. Right.
- 1:34:01Carrie Genzel: Yeah. I know it felt like wow, like I didn't expect that that's what
- 1:34:04Carrie Genzel: we were gonna encounter that day, but it felt really good to have done
- 1:34:08Carrie Genzel: that and and just to clear that house of of that energy and to
- 1:34:11Carrie Genzel: keep the door open because we definitely heard the REM pods going off on
- 1:34:15Carrie Genzel: the stairs. So it felt like spirits were coming up to leave.
- 1:34:19Jonthan Morgan: Mm-hmm.
- 1:34:20Carrie Genzel: And that felt really good of like, get out of here, guys.
- 1:34:24Jonthan Morgan: It did. Yeah, it did.
- 1:34:26Carrie Genzel: Well, this was an extraordinary investigation and case. I've certainly learned a lot from
- 1:34:32Carrie Genzel: this one. And I looking forward to some exciting ones coming up. But thank
- 1:34:36Carrie Genzel: you for always being yourselves and for keeping us safe in these unexpected moments
- 1:34:42Carrie Genzel: and for sharing yourselves with all of us and in what you do and
- 1:34:46Carrie Genzel: and why you do it.