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Buffalo Bills vs New York Giants 2025 Preseason Post-Game | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: It's thirty eight.
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  Speaker 1: game edition of Disguise Coverage, pretty simple, pretty straightforward. We
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  Speaker 1: will be going over the Buffalo Bills twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: Week one preseason law to the New York Giants, some
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  Speaker 1: stock up elements, some stock down pieces to talk about
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  Speaker 1: some players, some sides of the ball, some position groupings,
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  Speaker 1: things that you have come to expect here from Disguise
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  Speaker 1: Coverage as we get into you know, kind of close
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  Speaker 1: to regular season. Board have been doing the postgame show
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  Speaker 1: for the preseason. I think this is the third year
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  Speaker 1: in a row, so I'm excited to kind of continue
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  Speaker 1: on this trend for those of you joining me live
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  Speaker 1: here on YouTube, as several of you already have in
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  Speaker 1: the comments, and I'm gonna continue to go through everything questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, likes, dislikes, worries, pros, cons,
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  Speaker 1: your stock up, your stock down, anything and everything that
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  Speaker 1: you folks have on your mind coming out of this
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  Speaker 1: Week one game, Feel free to put it up into
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  Speaker 1: the comments. I will bring up anything and everything as
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  Speaker 1: much as humanly possible. As always, super chats get the
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  Speaker 1: priority one because I respect the monetary donation. Two, the
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  Speaker 1: color distracts me from my notes and pulls me back
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  Speaker 1: towards everything. So anything you got, feel free put it
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  Speaker 1: into the chat. Let's have as much of an open
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  Speaker 1: discussion as we can about this Bills start to the season,
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  Speaker 1: even though it's kind of not live but it is, well,
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  Speaker 1: it is live bullets, but you know, preseason aspect. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see how everybody feels about that. But let's start to
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  Speaker 1: go through. Just a tippy canoe opened up with the
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  Speaker 1: first comment said, if you got a sponsorship with post serial,
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  Speaker 1: this could be the post postgame coverage. Crunchberries is where
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  Speaker 1: it's at. I think that's actually a really smart comment.
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  Speaker 1: I like that Jason saying some almost real football to
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  Speaker 1: have a postgame show about. Finally exclamation point, Ah feels good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I gotta stop because we've got a super chat.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Greg, thank you very much for being here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the super chat. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you had meant to have a comment attached
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  Speaker 1: to the super chat. If you do put it in there,
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to do a super chat again. Just
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  Speaker 1: put whatever comment you got and I'll bring it in.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you very much for the super chat, and
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much for being here. Let's go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna rip through a bunch of the comment here, death
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  Speaker 1: taxes and the Bills defense giving up third and longs.
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  Speaker 1: That is an aspect we will I do want to
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  Speaker 1: touch on that within this episode. I'll probably lead off
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  Speaker 1: with it as we kind of go through several of
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  Speaker 1: the comments because it was hilariously ironic, if not maybe
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  Speaker 1: kind of painfully ironic, But I do want to put
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  Speaker 1: some context into it. But yeah, it was a bit disappointing,
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  Speaker 1: but also it's the preseason. It's hard to kind of
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  Speaker 1: hang your hat on that being the expectation, but we'll
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  Speaker 1: see going forward. Titan jumping on that as well, saying
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  Speaker 1: so much for our d being aggressive. Juba comes in
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  Speaker 1: and says, five and twelve is your assumption that the
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  Speaker 1: Bills are gonna be five and twelve off of this
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  Speaker 1: preseason loss to each their own, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that sound processed. Tim says, win or loss. It
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  Speaker 1: was Bill's football and I loved it. Ben coming in
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  Speaker 1: and saying in response to Titans comment, saying, to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: it's week one of the preseason. They aren't playing anything exotic.
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  Speaker 1: That is very true, Gordon. I see your comment here.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the kindness. I didn't mean
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  Speaker 1: to pull it up, but I like that.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Lou saying are we really going to be doing the
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  Speaker 1: third down gnashing of teeth again this year? Okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: my big ripe with Dwayne Carter being associated with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we will be.
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  Speaker 1: We will be talking about the third down defense and
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  Speaker 1: some of the pieces in terms of pass rushing coverage
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  Speaker 1: in general.
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  Speaker 3: Steve, what's up, Steve?
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  Speaker 1: Steve says Jacob Byer cost us something specially, Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: potential game winning drive to go down and win things
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  Speaker 1: in week one. Bit of a high snap you sell,
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  Speaker 1: Bucil Buchelle. I never know which. I've heard it both ways.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you shall unable to get on it.
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  Speaker 1: Giants recover essentially kind of ices and ends the game.
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  Speaker 1: Comment here is saying from Azy and Swims repeat after me,
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  Speaker 1: I will not overreact to the preseason kaya Morey's saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed we didn't get to see a shame you
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  Speaker 1: shall legacy drive.
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  Speaker 3: To Dion Cain.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob following up Bass there John Roberts saying Jacob byer
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  Speaker 1: Stock is down just to the canoe very uh way
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  Speaker 1: to stay ahead of here, saying being healthy is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest priority. Ryan mccowisch was saying ty Johnson looked good.
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  Speaker 1: He did look good, and I think follows in conjunction
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  Speaker 1: with Mars comment. You're saying, Frank Gore Junior is ready.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I got to say. Yeah, Ti Johnson looked good.
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  Speaker 1: Frank Gore Junior look good. I think most of us
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  Speaker 1: know Frank Gore Junior had a really good preseason last year.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like he's on track to have that again. Thought
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  Speaker 1: he really looked good. Tim saying I enjoyed the flashes
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  Speaker 1: from some of the young guys. The first team O
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  Speaker 1: line had a fight on their hands with that Giants
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  Speaker 1: D line. Yeah, we'll talk about that as we start
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  Speaker 1: to get into kind of my official notes and pieces
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  Speaker 1: going forward. But yeah, the Giants D line, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the Giants defense in general. I like Andrew Phillips, you know,
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  Speaker 1: coming back from last year. I like Tyler Nuban. They
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  Speaker 1: add Javon Holland, they add Paulson to debo. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: what Banks can be. As you know, the corner two.
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  Speaker 1: Opposite of debo, but opposite of a debo. He had
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  Speaker 1: a really strong rookie year, a bit of a down
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  Speaker 1: second year. If he can get back to his rookie
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  Speaker 1: form in year three, that secondary seems to be really good.
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  Speaker 1: And even if Banks isn't solid, you have four other
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  Speaker 1: players that are really solid. And then the front is
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  Speaker 1: just nasty and the linebackers aren't anything bad to and
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  Speaker 1: sneeze at either, especially like lit Karak there and even
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  Speaker 1: McFadden shows the ability to make plays.
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  Speaker 3: He had a nice scrape over the.
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  Speaker 1: Top on the on the wheel against ray Davis early
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  Speaker 1: on in the game. But yeah, that front is nasty.
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  Speaker 1: Abdul Carter had two real clean wins the day. The
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  Speaker 1: first one actually wasn't completely clean. He rushed inside against Torrance.
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  Speaker 1: Torrean's got a piece of him, but Carter had the
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  Speaker 1: edge and Torres kind of let him go to out
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  Speaker 1: draw the holding. And then the other one he just
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  Speaker 1: Carter beat Dawkins clean off the left edge with an
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  Speaker 1: inside movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that front is gonna be nasty. Oh, interesting comments.
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  Speaker 1: What are the chances More and Samuel don't make the
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  Speaker 1: roster after Shavers his day today? I would say, I
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  Speaker 1: think one, let's not react too much to one game,
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  Speaker 1: but more I think could be a potential cut. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was a guarantee that he's gonna make
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  Speaker 1: the roster anyway. The tough piece with Samuel is if
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  Speaker 1: you cut Curtis Samuel, he carries a dead cap hit
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  Speaker 1: of essentially twelve point one million. Even if you release
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  Speaker 1: him after or you know, June first, Yeah, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: a dead cap hit of eight point six million this year,
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  Speaker 1: three point four million next year. So Samuel, I think
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  Speaker 1: is almost a not even almost. I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: lock to make this team. I don't see them eating
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  Speaker 1: twelve million in dead cap unless somebody really emerges and
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  Speaker 1: or he falls off the face of the earth. So
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  Speaker 1: what kind of see Max says, is there a schematic
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  Speaker 1: reason why the Bills struggle to defend screen passes?
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  Speaker 3: I think it could be twofold, especially what the type.
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  Speaker 1: Of defense they are. If you're attack minded and you're
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  Speaker 1: like a one gap penetrating, let's get up field type
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  Speaker 1: of defense, your natural movement is pin your ears back,
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  Speaker 1: let's go. You take some steps up field, and then
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  Speaker 1: a screen pass gets hit behind you or gets hit
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  Speaker 1: on the outside, and then if you're also pairing that
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  Speaker 1: with like kind of the you know, the softer coverages underneath,
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  Speaker 1: it just creates a lot of space, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to traditionally where the first down is,
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  Speaker 1: that space gets filled with the blockers guys have to
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  Speaker 1: come from. Depth angles are in question. If one guy
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  Speaker 1: misses a tackle, you're almost done and dusted. So I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a bit of just kind of who the
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  Speaker 1: Bills are philosophically as a defense and within their identity,
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of tends to work against them. You
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  Speaker 1: have to really id the screen quickly before you get
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  Speaker 1: into your drop, before you get into your rush, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that affects a bunch of defenses, but the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: especially because their front really is attack minded, get a field.
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  Speaker 1: Then you also have smaller guys at the second level
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  Speaker 1: Bernard Mulano, Tarren Johnson, So you have smaller guys trying
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  Speaker 1: to fight through bigger offensive linemen and sometimes tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: So it's kind of a perfect storm for them taking
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  Speaker 1: taking a beating in that regard. Green Ducks is how
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  Speaker 1: do you feel about.
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  Speaker 3: Benching Josh Allen over a mustache?
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  Speaker 1: Micah Why is the why isn't the third down defense
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  Speaker 1: or why is the third down defense not successful? We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. John Roberts and the defense stunk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of going through Jackson with some positivity
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  Speaker 1: saying Dion Walker was impressive. Ryan saying the rookie defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackles flash good seeing them roll O Bosa, he looks healthy,
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  Speaker 1: fingers crossed. Absolutely everything that we say positively in this
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  Speaker 1: episode his fingers crossed, and no jinks. I want to
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  Speaker 1: kind of preface that with everything, Lou saying I was
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  Speaker 1: skeptical about the Walker pick in the draft. My goodness,
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  Speaker 1: I may have been very wrong about him. He looked outstanding, quick,
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  Speaker 1: violent and hard slash, impossible to handle. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: see the tape. I always kind of reserve judgment on
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  Speaker 1: offensive line and defensive line stuff on postgame shows just
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like the broadcast doesn't do it just
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  Speaker 1: the same thing with a lot of coverage pieces. So
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  Speaker 1: I really want to get into the tape to really
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  Speaker 1: give a full assessment or analysis or thought on the
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  Speaker 1: trench stuff, the coverage stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But I am excited to kind of get into that.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the comment here, I'm here after an eight
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  Speaker 1: hour shift and forty hours of nas whatever it took
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  Speaker 1: to get you through the day. I appreciate you getting
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  Speaker 1: through your day, and we're joining us here. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much. John says, I like Tyrol Shavers. I like
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  Speaker 1: Tyrol Shavers as well. We're going to get into that.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy saying, almost like their afraid to give up a
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  Speaker 1: big play. I think that also ties into the screen
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  Speaker 1: piece as well. If you're trying really hard to kind
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  Speaker 1: of protect things over the top and put a cap
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  Speaker 1: on an offense and not get beat vertical and get
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  Speaker 1: beat over the top, kind of by default or definition,
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be more space to attack underneath for
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  Speaker 1: an offense, and so guys just kind of go through there.
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  Speaker 1: Lou saying Frank Gore looks like he had more juice
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  Speaker 1: than he had last year. A lot of positivity for
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  Speaker 1: Frank or going out there. Titans saying, Jason, this is
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  Speaker 1: always the response, but we do this in the regular
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  Speaker 1: season two. We are bad on third down. It's not
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  Speaker 1: a preseason issue. See a lot of comments on the defense.
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  Speaker 1: John Saint Bill didn't have enough pressure, Mark saying, where
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  Speaker 1: the hell was the defense. John Saint Bosa had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pop out there. You could see why he's healthy,
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  Speaker 1: why he's elite when healthy. Yeah, I like Bosa, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was one of the positive standouts with
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  Speaker 1: the first teamers. It's kind of just jump right into,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the preseason postgame aspect. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: with the third down defense, and I want to say
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  Speaker 1: on two things right. I tweeted this during the show.
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  Speaker 1: It was very painfully ironic that the Bills had the
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  Speaker 1: struggles that they did in twenty twenty four on third
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  Speaker 1: down overall, like third down as an entire down, but
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  Speaker 1: then especially with struggling on third and long like they
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  Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty four. So for them to have
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  Speaker 1: those third down struggles in general last season and the
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  Speaker 1: struggle especially on third and long, it was painfully ironic
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  Speaker 1: that coming into this opening preseason game of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: that there was a good handful of third and longs
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  Speaker 1: and the Bills gave up conversions.
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  Speaker 3: On a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm also including the one where it was like
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  Speaker 1: early on it was like third and eight and the
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  Speaker 1: Giants got seven and then went for it on fourth
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  Speaker 1: down and got the first down, So I'm also including
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  Speaker 1: that is kind of like a third down even though
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  Speaker 1: it's not a third down conversion.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of throwing it in there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it was disappointing to see, I will say
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  Speaker 1: this and not to kind of put it out there
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  Speaker 1: because we have seen what the Bills have been the
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  Speaker 1: past several years. But for all the talk that there's
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  Speaker 1: been this year of you know, Ryan Nielsen coming in
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  Speaker 1: more five man pressures, more six man pressures, more more sims,
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  Speaker 1: more creepers, more man coverage, all of that, if we
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  Speaker 1: are going to see those changes this year to the
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  Speaker 1: Bills defense again, changes in terms of how they've operated
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  Speaker 1: schematically on defense in high leverage situations or overall the
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  Speaker 1: past several years, we're not.
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  Speaker 3: Going to see those changes in the preseason.
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  Speaker 1: So I hate to kind of almost put a pin
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  Speaker 1: in that, but we're not going to see the Bills
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  Speaker 1: aren't going to come out in the preseason on third
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  Speaker 1: downs and run a bunch of exotic five man pressures
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  Speaker 1: or run a bunch of sims or creepers. They're not
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  Speaker 1: going to start to get into their bag in that
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  Speaker 1: regard because that bag is different than what they've been previously,
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  Speaker 1: so they're not going to want to show that it's
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  Speaker 1: very It's still going to be very generic, very you know,
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote vanilla defense type of stuff. I will say
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  Speaker 1: the one, the one that I really noticed in the
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  Speaker 1: third quarter, I believe it was a fire zone pressure.
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  Speaker 1: So they brought five and then it was three under
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  Speaker 1: three deep. From a cover standpoint. They dropped Landon Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: He was almost a pole runner in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the field. That looked like Jackson's covering somebody they're matching underneath.
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  Speaker 1: They brought Jenkins on the blitz, and they brought Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Hancock on the blitz. Hancock came almost like a free runner,
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  Speaker 1: got chipped a little bit, but he heated up the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Winston threw it, Dorning Strong got the PBu. That was
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  Speaker 1: really the only glimpse of like something exotic or creative upfront.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, I gravitate towards that type
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  Speaker 1: of defense anyway. But I thought that was somewhat encouraging
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  Speaker 1: because I expect I expect more of that from the
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  Speaker 1: defense when the bullets are live, especially when Michael Hoyt
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  Speaker 1: comes back. I think Hoyt is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: big one in terms of front variation, versatility guys you know,
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  Speaker 1: traditional guys and non traditional alignments, guys dropping into coverage,
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  Speaker 1: guys rushing. I think a lot of that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be wait and see. But it is annoying right
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  Speaker 1: to see the defense kind of operate in a similar
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  Speaker 1: vein as they have the previous year, especially after so
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  Speaker 1: much the off season conversation was like, you bring in
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  Speaker 1: Mike Pellegrino, you bring in Ryan Nielsen, You're so bad
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  Speaker 1: on third down, and it's like, Okay, more man coverage,
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  Speaker 1: more games up front, more five man pressures, more six
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  Speaker 1: man stuff, sims, creepers, all the things we continue to mention,
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  Speaker 1: like more marriage of coverage and pass rush, and then
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  Speaker 1: they come out in the first preseason game, give up
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  Speaker 1: thirty plus. There's a lot of space underneath for guys.
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  Speaker 1: They're missing some tackles, and there's several third not even
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  Speaker 1: several more than several third and long conversions. So I
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  Speaker 1: understand the frustration I am in that boat. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not ready to get too upset about it because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect to see the changes that I want that
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  Speaker 1: I've been kind of clamoring for the past several years,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been saying this, if you especially with a
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  Speaker 1: regular watcher the show, I've been saying this for years,
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  Speaker 1: like I wanted more blitzing from the Bills. I in general,
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  Speaker 1: I just love simulated pressures and creepers and zone blitzes,
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  Speaker 1: fire zone stuff. I love match coverage. I love mixing
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  Speaker 1: in more. Man. I'm all about, you know, changing the
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  Speaker 1: front and coverage structure post snap as best as you
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  Speaker 1: can and making life hard on a quarterback, changing the
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  Speaker 1: picture on them, keeping offensive offenses guessing and playing really
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  Speaker 1: on the forefront or on the forefoot i should say,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of dictating towards them. The Bills haven't really
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: ever been that, even when they've been a very good defense.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So I've been kind of clamoring for several of these
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: changes for years. And so I'm very firmly in that
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: camp of the Bills defense needing several tweaks schematically and
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: from kind of an identity perspective. I wasn't expecting to
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: see them in the preseason, not just in general in
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Week one, but in preseason overall.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not expecting that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: And even what's even more frustrating, again, like I mentioned,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: like even if they don't do the things I'm looking
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: for to start the season, part of me is still like, well,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: let's see what happens when Michael Hoyt comes back, because
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be an important part of
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the variety and versatility they have up front and tying.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Things in together. So we'll see. But yeah, it was disappointing.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I don't fault anyone for being annoyed, even if it
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: is the backups, even if it's pre seas and so
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: on and so forth. Just to all the third down
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: conversions in general in this game, but especially the ones
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: from third and long, and I kind of want to
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: pull up let me pull up the I want to
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: see what the final third down conversion rate was for
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the Giants in this game. The Giants ended up nine
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of nineteen on third down, so pretty good ratio. And
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I wish I knew how many of those were third
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and long, but it was. I feel like it was
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: at least six or seven, which is unfortunate. And John
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: was saying, yeah, not getting much schemed up stuff in
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the preseason. I just like to see how individual players look.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I'm not looking for too
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: much other than a couple of little flashes like that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: one third down look that I talked about. I saw
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that and I immediately made note of it. I'm gonna
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: pull That's gonna be one of the first plays I
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of cliped from a film perspective and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: go in and look because I was like, oh, this
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: is nice to see. But I wasn't expecting too much
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: of that throughout the season, especially because it's not their identity.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think they want to show that stuff or
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: show their hand early. I think they're just gonna work
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: on it more kind of behind the scenes. But we'll
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: see Titan saying the d line has to has got
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to get home. I don't want to hear about pressures.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It struggles to actually get to the quarterback. I think,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I feel you on that. I do think
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you have to get home to kind of make the
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: pressures worthwhile. But I do think there was something to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be said for the value of pressures. I think my
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: bigger takeaway in this game was I felt like there
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: weren't a lot of pressures, especially from just a front
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: four perspective. Again, I think the table kind of put
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: more into perspective than just the broadcast, but I just
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: felt that QBS had too much time and I felt
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like there was a bit of a disconnect between the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: rush and coverage. But again, preseason, I'm not putting too
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: much stock into it, but I would like to see more,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I should say.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: In that regard.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Gordon says, I don't love the pause with Hoyt. The
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: scheme shouldn't rotate around one rotational defensive player. I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna rotate a revolt around him. I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's more his skill set allows you to do certain things,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and his skill set isn't tremendously common, not just on
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the bills, but for a lot of guys. Right, So
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's more of a niche role and we'll
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: see kind of what he becomes, or maybe they try
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to drop somebody into that role, or maybe we just
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: see more blitzes, maybe we see more man coverage. There's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: something to cobble together. But I think I do think
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: hoy Is there's an element of chess pie SERI with
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyd. Not to say that he's this great mismatch creator,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: an advantage for any defense, but he is a bit
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of a unicorn with what you can do with him
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: from a rush perspective, from a coverage perspective, inside outside
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: off ball. I think there's kind of a variety to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: what he can be. And I don't think that's necessarily
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a thing that's readily prevalent or available, not just on
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the Bills, but on a lot of different teams. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: also especially for the Bills, they don't traditionally gravitate towards
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: those type of guys. I like building defenses out of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: those type of guys. Are getting more of those type
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: of guys within that so within the defense, so you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: can have more hybrid looks, more questions that the offense
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: potentially has to answer. But the Bills just traditionally have
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: not kind of gone in that direction. So those are
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: my thoughts on the third down defense a bit disappointing,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and Charles saying, I'm concerned about our defense versus the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: quick passing game case he killed us with it, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: today it seeing the Giants had some success targeting Tray,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I really want to see the coverages I noticed early on. Yeah, Trey,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and I don't really think necessarily targeting Tray. I think
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it was just they were working those kind of no
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: cover zones or that underneath space that to your point,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was readily available and readily prevalent. I think for you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to credit Tray, I think more often than not he
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: came up and did make some decent tackles. He missed
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that tackle on the first third and long. I think
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it was the first third down of the game, which
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: was disappointing, But I think overall he was, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: pretty good. Coming forward, We're gonna have to see what
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they look like. And again with everything like being concerned
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: about the defense versus the quick passing game, I don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: think we're gonna feel better in the preseason. We need
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to see it in the regular season because the way
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: they combat that, if they do play more man, if
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: they do play more press jam, if they do work
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: in more exotic looks and pressure packages. Again, I don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: think we're gonna see that. And I'm not saying you're
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: saying this, but I don't think we're gonna see that
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, which you know, for me just annoys
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: me because it's very much like okay, wait and see,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Like Okay, I see these things that I don't like.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Let's wait until the regular season to see if maybe
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they fix it, like how much of these are red
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: flags versus them just not trying to not tip or
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: show their hand right now at this point, it's a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: little frustrating, but you know, I feel you. I feel
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you on that. Let's talk about, you know, some more
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of the positives. We'll stay on the defensive side the box.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: We started talking about the defense. A couple of really
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: nice flashes from TJ. Sanders, one in particular on the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: first touchdown of the game for the Giants, the deep
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: one to low Jordan Humphrey from Jackson Dart. I tweeted
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it when it happened, like it's gonna get lost in
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the touchdown of the play, but Sanders, whoop, the left
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: guard stabbed, swiped the hands, got through, put Dart on
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the ground or put a hit on him as Dart
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: put the ball up. That was a really nice clean win.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And then Dian Walker maybe like a couple of drimes
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: later beat that same right guard with some quickness on
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the snap as well. So good to see those flashes
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: from those guys. Somebody in the chat earlier mentioned Joey Bosa.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I thought Joey Bosa did look good again. We all
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: know health is the most important thing with him, right,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But the amount of run defense reps that he got
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: today I thought was really interesting. My assumption for the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: year really has just been kind of like similar to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: von Miller roll with Bosa right where you roll group
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and Epanessa with the ones and then Bosa comes in.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Kind of is like that headhunter that mercenary on third downs.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Mainly because of his health, you want to keep mone
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: pitch count. But as I've said, throughout his career, when healthy,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he's been very good, an elite overall edge player in
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: defensive end. Like he's good in the he's good against
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the run. He gets talked about if he or most
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of the things that he would get talked about was,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the pass rush, the pressures, the sacks, the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: force fumbles, all that kind of stuff. Right, But he's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: always been a pretty good to very good run defender,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and we saw several good run defense reps from him,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and it maybe I'm very interested to see how much
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: early down work we see from him to kind of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: fill out this season, especially again, if you have injury concerns,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: do you put him on a pitch count? Do you not?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: What's his role? How much is he rotating along with
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: rotating everyone else. I didn't expect him to play today
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: at all, let alone how much he played and then
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: how much he played on early downs. But I thought
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he looked good and nice pressure at one point drive
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: in the left tackle back into the backfield. I think
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that was one where he collapsed the pocket a bit,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and then Ed Oliver drove the left guard back and
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: got his hand up and knocked the pass down. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that was really nice. I thought, folks, I had some
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: nice flashes today. Was encouraged by his play, and Oliver
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: looked good in his reps. A couple pressures, driving some
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: guys into the backfield, heating up the quarterback, not going
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to pass down, had a couple of played nice plays
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: against the run. Ed's played with juice this offseason and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: not this offseason, through training camp and through the scrimmage.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was really nice to see on
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I had hoped to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: see more from Javon Solomon in this game, not necessarily
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: more in terms of snaps, but just kind of productivity.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: And again not to say the broadcast is the definitive part, right,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. You got to get
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: into the tape and really see kind of what was
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: happening and the whys behind it, But I'd hope to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: see a little bit more from him. Similarly, for Landon Jackson,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not the I wasn't the biggest champion of land
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and Jackson coming out, mainly just because guys that are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: high cut like him said it a bunch on the show.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Guys that are high cut really long legs and don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: have a lot of bend or flexibility to their lower body.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Those kind of dudes give me pause and worry me
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a bit. So you know, I think the biggest stand
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: out for him today was a negative where he was
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: off sides on that Jordan Hancock interceptions. That was probably
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: pretty disappointing for him or for anybody kind of keeping
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: tabs on him. But again, one game, we'll see where
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he fits in with the rotation and then kind of
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: work in everywhere else. I feel I saw Dwayne Carter
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: getting washed down a little bit, which isn't great, but
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it's also kind of part for the course for him,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: unfortunately with what he was last year. And I'm really
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: interested to see what t J. Sanders looked like against
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the run what Dean Walker looked like against the run again,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: especially with him having some nicer flashes from a pass
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: rush perspective, kind of seeing what that all looks like
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: in totality, and it's kind of moved towards I'm trying
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to think anybody else on the D line that I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: had notes for.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: No, not really moving towards the second level.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I thought, Mulane continues to look healthy, quick trigger. Think
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: what the first play of the game is that passed
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the flat triggers on it makes the stop. He looks
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like he's getting back to that healthy version of himself,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and the healthy version of himself when he last saw
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it several years ago, was an All Pro and one
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of the best linebackers in the league. So really cool
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to see him continuously moving like he's got health right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: No brace on the arm, no brace on anywhere on
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: his lower body. He just he's seeing, he's reacting, he's reading,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he's reacting, he's triggering, he's shooting, he's finishing really nice
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: plays for him and Joe and Reeson. I thought had
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: some positive reps. I thought he had a couple of
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: good ones in pass coverage, which is really the biggest
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: area for me that I think we need to see
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: improvement from him when he kind of balled out last
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: year against the Steelers in the preseason. A lot of
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it was coming forward right him, shooting gaps, making plays
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: against the run. I thought the biggest thing for him
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was improven from a coverage perspective, being able to robot
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: pick up routes, playing in some match coverage stuff, but
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: just being sound in your zone, not playing too soft,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: not being unaware, and just necessarily covering grass, but kind
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of being more efficient and productive. Not necessarily from a
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: stats standpoint, but I thought we saw some encouraging reps
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: from him today, But the middle of the Bills defense
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: kind of got picked on a bit at times, So
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I want to see what that coverage element looked like.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Disappointing that we didn't get to see Shaq Thompson today.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I think he's competing for kind of one of those
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: depth spots. Especially Lauren says, season's over. Can't believe we lost. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: super Bowl window was closed.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It's done.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: They should just pack it up. I wouldn't even bother
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: playing this year. Yeah, I wanted to see some Shaq
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Thompson today, especially with Specter being done, and but you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Jenkins had some flashes.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Well, the Fohio had one.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: That linebacker competition I think is really just depth and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: special teams battling at this point. Although again Andresent had
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a couple of nice stops against the run. We know what,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: he's a good run defender, like, he's good triggering, reading,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he fits well, he understands where the blocks are going
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and how to kind of get around them and get
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: through them, at least against you know, I should say
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: like not against the starter, because we haven't seen that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: with regularity. But the coverage piece I thought was the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: biggest question for him. So I'm interested to just kind
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of put on the tape and see how we functioned
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: within that regard. Somebody said earlier in the chat, Jordan
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Hancock looked good. Yeah, I thought Hancock had some nice
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: plays that third and one conversion for the Giants where
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Hoyt got pinned inside a little bit, the running back
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: took it up the sideline. Hancock came from the other
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: side and gave him a good stick, drove him to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the ground. Should have had an interception. When he did
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: have an interception that was called back because of off
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: sides looked like the second level got good depth on
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that throw and then the quarterback had to sail it,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and Hancock was right there driving on that route and
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: he was in position to make a nice interception. I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: also liked that they blitzed him a lot. I thought
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that was really interesting. It seemed I want to see
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: what the blitzeres were in response to if they were
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: kind of just a natural call in the field, or
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: if it was an adjustment to a motion or a shift,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: or if they were coming against certain formations or certain alignments.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: But he had a lot of blitzes today, and I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: thought he was largely effective on them. I mentioned the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: one on third down where he got the pressure and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: heated up Winston that led to the throw and a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: during in a strong PBu on the back end. But yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: they're really sending Hancock a bunch. I also thought it
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: was interesting too with the second teamers that to Corey
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Couch was the second string nickel and that Hancock went
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: right in its safety. I was kind of wondering what
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: reps Hancock would see and where, and today it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: all safety, And to Cory Kouch had been working with
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of the safeties in. He was a nickel
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: at Miami, but he had been working a lot with
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the safeties in camp, but he was really the nickel
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for the heavy majority of the game. As soon as
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Taron Johnson went down to Cory, Couch came in for
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Tarn and pretty much ran as that nickel from that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: time until I really think early into the fourth quarter
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: until Brandon Codrington kind of stay stepped in and stayed
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: in that role. Couch had a couple of nice plays,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and I think it was more due to the quarterback
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: being late than you know, necessarily Couch being in phase,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: but he had a couple of good coverage reps from
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the broadcast angle. I'm excited to see what else he did.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: He had a couple of really good run fits. I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not worried about with him though he's good physically, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in and around the box, tackling, making plays against the run.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: We'll kind of see what he can be from a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, because he's not the most athletic or fleet
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: of foot type of dude, so we'll see what that is. Richie, Corey,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Couch and I liked some of what we saw from
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Cam Lewis. A couple of really good run fits early
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on Cleuding one from depth again another one on a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: third down conversion, Bolsa went inside the running back balance.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It was a light box. I think it was third
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and one, and cam Lewis came down and made the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: tackle for like a gain of two. So the Giants
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: ended up getting the first down by like a yard.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: But it was a nice, nice fit from cam coming
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: from depth. I think he offers you a lot of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: positional value because you're gonna get special teams reps from him.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: He can be the second team nickel, and.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It looks like like safety three, maybe Safety four. I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: don't know if I think Forrest is behind Hamlin and
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis at this point, it's just a matter of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: who is Safety three? Is it Hamlin or is it
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: cam Lewis, And you know, just Jordan Hancock make any
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: noise in that safety room and in that safety battling
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: within that as well. I thought Dorrian Strong had a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: nice PBu, but again, I really want to see a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: lot of the coverage pieces elsewhere, some of his tackling stuff.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I had a mistackle on one. DeMarcus Ingram had some
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: stuff that he gave up underneath but came up make tackles.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if that's necessarily on him
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: or the coverage. So that's something I think we need
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to see come film time and tape time. What else,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: anything else? Anybody got any thoughts, questions, comments, concerns on
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the defense. I'm gonna go back take a peek at
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: some of the comments here before we move on to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Yeah, Dan Jackson got
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: torched on that early touchdown a little Jordan Humphrey, but
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: then it made a really nice play deep later in
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the game, got his head around. It looked like he
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: almost kind of one hand picked it on a deep shot.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought that, you know, I think Dane
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: is Dane at this point. I'm I'm really more concerned
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: on if not concerned, but can Dorian Strong and or
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram kind of supplant Dane Jackson. So you're looking
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: at a corner room of Benford Trey, not including Harriston
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: right now because he's banged up, But Benford Trey, JaMarcus Ingram,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Dorian Strong, or is Dane Jackson going to be locked
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in his kind of.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Corner three, corner four?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And that means you're losing one of stronger Ingram or
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: even daikwon Hardy. But I think Hardy's kind of further
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: down now at this point. So I'm interested to see
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: how that kind of competition works. I don't, I don't know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: People are I don't, I don't. I think this is
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: referenced into what I mentioned the TJ. Graham pressure or TJ.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Graham Chier Sanders pressure earlier. The comment here from Titan
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: see this is the problem. Who cares if TJ won
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: when he didn't get home in time and stop the pass.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But he did him not he won that rep. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: think think that ball came out in about two seconds
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: or under. No one's getting home in that time. The
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks saw the pressure and decided to throw the ball up.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Dart saw the pressure, decided to throw the ball up,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and he ended up making a great throw. Like sometimes
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a defender or a defense makes a great play and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: an offensive player or an offense makes a better play
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and they win the rep. You should care if TJ.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Sanders won the rep because he won clean. It was
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a nice move and he got a quick pressure. It's
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: not his fault and it doesn't take away from his
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: win up there, that Dart made a great throw, or
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the receiver got opened, or the corner didn't make a play,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: or the coverage on the back end didn't match what
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: happened up front. You still should care about an individual
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: player's development, and them having a really successful play on
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a downplay for the defense is still important. You still
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: want to track those those players. That's part of their evaluation,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: like what are they doing that? That's why it matters,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: like you, you want to see him getting through there regularly,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and that's with anybody. I don't know why you would
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: say who cares I TJ One when he didn't get
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: home in time and stop the pass, especially if you
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: look at that play like I feel like Dark got
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that ball out in about two seconds. That's not on Sanders.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: He won his rep initially and cleanly, and Dart felt
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it and saw it and was like, all right, let
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: me take the one shot. And the shot that he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: took was a low percentage throw. They just happened to
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: make it. I know, just based on how upset you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: are at everything, you're probably gonna say I'm making excuses,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't like what you're saying. Who cares? I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: TJ one. You should care like he won. He had
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a really good rep. You want to see more of that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: You want your guys on the up front winning quickly.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: The more they do that, the more the offense is
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: going to have to try lower percentage throws and plays.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And if you play through the law averages and percentages,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: odds are it's going to not work out for the offense.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: We need the Bills need more guys up front winning
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and winning and winning in some.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Way or shape or for form form.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I should say, budge or COMMENTCI for Jordan Hancock, mm hmmm.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Positive for Cam Lowise Yep, yep, yep. Steve coming in
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and saying Shavers better be on the fifty three. He's
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: earned it. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Tyrol Shavers
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: as we get into the offensive side of the ball.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Oh there's some I wasn't expecting all this negativity, but
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: fair enough, Okay, Man to each their own on how
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: they see see things. So you don't you don't think
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: like a guy winning one on one, beating his man
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: right off the snap and barreling down on the QB
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and the QB just making a better play. You don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: see that as like a win for that individual player.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: So that's not a win for TJ. Sanders because someone
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: else got beat or someone else made a play like
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: he beat his man almost instantly, but that doesn't count
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: as like a win. I don't, I don't. I know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you have to get man. I just think this is
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a oh man, we're on the extra preseason week one.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: What is happening? What is happening? It's Ky Moore. He
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: says no positivity allowed and we lost. Yeah, I mean
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: again to easter On. I understand being frustrated with the defense,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: being frustrated with the third down stuff, especially with what
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: we've seen in the past couple of years. Right, I
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: think the defense is very much kind of on the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: chopping block with how they performed in the playoffs, and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: not just last year, but kind of year over year,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: even though they've had a lot of injuries. I think
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: people have kind of passed all of that to the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: side and have said, like, the defense is bad, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: then you had the third down struggles in and everything,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and all of that you're saying, yeah, it's cool, I'll
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: shut up for wanting to perform. I also want the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Bills to perform. I just think you're being super pessimistic
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and trying to pooh pooh anything that sounds good, because,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: like you, even you called out earlier, didn't you say
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: in the comments that cam Lewis had a couple of
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: good plays. Some of those good plays he had were
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: still on plays that generated in first downs. So he
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: had a really nice tackle on a third and short
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that the Giants got a first down on. So by
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: your logic, does that mean cam Lewis didn't perform on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that play because he made a good tackle but the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Giants got a first down. I'm genuinely asking. I would
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: like to know, because if he makes a good play
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and you called him out for making some good plays,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: he was making good plays on completions that were positives
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: for the offense, runs that resulted in first downs. So
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't know. I do want the Bills to perform.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: So that was a loss for the Bills defense.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: That TJ.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Sanders play I'm talking about, but that rep was a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: win for Sanders. So obviously you gave up a touchdown.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: That's a negative for the defense, but TJ. Sanders had
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a win because he beat his man instantaneously and off
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: off rip. Yeah, I okayo lu saying, my big problem
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: from today's defense was Dwayne Carter. Dude just had so
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: many reps where he's on the ground. Yeah, I think
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you know, someone else, I forget who DM me or
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Messa with somebody said something similar. Actually a couple of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: people said something similar to me during the game, And yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I just I don't want to be too again because
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I want to watch the tape. That's my biggest thing,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: right I want to see what was, what the call
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: was from the offensive side, for the defensive side, what
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: someone's responsibility was, kind of putting all of that together.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So from that perspective, I kind of want to see
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: what he looked like and what he did. But yeah,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: he continues to kind of get washed out field washed out.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: It's also hard to see the interior all the time
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: from the broadcast angle. But I'm worried for him. I
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: thought he had a really down year last year in
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: disappointing fashion. I also think them trying to play him
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: at like one tech and three tech is necessarily best
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: just set him up for success, and that's hindering him
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: even more because he's more of a penetrator, get upfield
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: pass rush kind of guy who plays off the juice,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and if he doesn't have that juice and he's playing heavier,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I think it kind of catches him in no man's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: land between two different kinds of roles, and instead of
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: allowing him to play both, it almost not even almost,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it allows him to essentially play neither, and that's not great. Oh,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Steve saying that rep with Sanders has looked at differently
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: if White or Benford was in coverage, if the pass
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: is incomplete, Sands Surrenders's win as a highlight. That's a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: very great way to say it's Steve, That's kind of
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: what I was alluding to, I guess.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Without necessarily saying it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Titan, you're saying cam Lewis did make some good plays.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: There were tackles for no gain from the bot from
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: according to like some stats, he officially had no tackles
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for no gain in that in that game against the Giants.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I just kind of want to put that in perspective
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: What, Yeah, we'll kind of see.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Comment you're saying. I get fans being frustrated with the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: lack of pressures becoming sacks, but you are you are right,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and you want guys to win would be concerning if
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Sanders couldn't beat any lineman. Yeah, you want to see,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: just again, if the defense loses the rep as a team,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: that is a thousand percent of thing. But there still
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: can be good performances within that rep. You know, you
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: might have great coverage on the back end, but nobody
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: upfront got home or generated any pressure. You might have
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: somebody win up front immediately and generate pressure, but the
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: coverage is too soft on the back end, or somebody
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: got beat on the back end. So there can be
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: a loss for the side of the ball in general,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: but there can still be wins for individual players. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: guess I just didn't I didn't think that would be
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: so I didn't think I'd have to kind of explain
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: that out. I obviously you don't want to give up
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: scores and you want results, but I didn't think it
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was It was so controversial to be like, hey, the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: defense gave up a touchdown on this play, but this
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: guy I had a win on that rep individually and
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: made a good play. But yeah, Beato saying more things change,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the more they remained the same to defense and third
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: down conversion, Who's to blame it's the disconnect between the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: pass rush and coverage.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it's a lot of things.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: It's the coaching design or the schematic design, I should say,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the disconnect between the back end and the front. You know,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: relying on your and then tied into that too, is
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: not necessarily having the horses up front that you want. Like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: if you're just gonna rely on your front four to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: win and beat guys and cause havoc, you have to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: have horses up there, like Sean McDermott had with Carolina
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: when they went to the Super Bowl, or like the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Eagles had last year. You know, I know people are
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: going to point to that Super Bowl between the Eagles
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Chiefs last year and be like, you know what, Yeah,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: just you just need to rush for and you can
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: get home with that and play coverage. And you can.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: But the Eagles had like seven, eight, nine guys deep
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: on that defensive line that were capable of getting pressure
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and or winning the run like they were monsters up front.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a bit of as it is
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: with most answers with football, it's like a bit of
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: several different pieces. I think it's one not necessarily having
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the Jimmy's and Joe's to win individually, and then on
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: top of that, not necessarily doing anything schematically to kind
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: of overcome that or mitigate any areas where you're vulnerable.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: But I also think, too, we really need to wait
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: for the regular season see how much this is. This
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is gonna change now, Like sitting here and having this
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: performance in the preseason, it's not ideal. But I'm also like, man,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: if we're having this same conversation after week one where yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they had the Ravens and I mean, then you also
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: too like Lamar's and Unicorn and can make those plays
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: all day. But if we're sitting here having these same
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: kind of conversations after week one, two, and three, where
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the Bills have had like twenty third and longs on
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: defense and they've given up like fifteen first downs, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: it's a completely different thing. Like once you're starting to
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: show more of your hand and play with live bullets,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: if the struggles are still continuing, then I think it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: time to panic a little bit more. Even though it's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: not ideal today, But as far as blame, it's it's
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: really kind of a bit all over. I think they
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: just need to do more things schematically in general, but
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: also to kind of overcome some of the Jimmy's and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Joe's pieces. Oh we'll see Jason's saying a lot of
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: short sighted feelings about preseason games and performance.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: No offense to anyone.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you can judge preseason without studying
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: tape first, since.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: The ask is different.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, fair for with you know, depending
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: on what you're looking at. But yeah, I think that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: a that's a very first time. But it which why
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: always kind of put the disclaimer out there for like
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: O line stuff, coverage stuff. You know, we got to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: see what they're rolling, what they're calling, and especially to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: again like not even knowing that. But in the preseason
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you're not really getting a lot of variety, or you're
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: not getting any game planning or situational calls. It's really
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, we're just gonna run our stuff. We're
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: gonna run our stuff. Hey we're gonna run our stuff
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and kind of go from there. M hm hmmm. Lewis
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: talking about I just hope we draft the development QB
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: next year. Mike White looked decent, but the other seemed
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: to stuggle we're gonna talk about the VBS when we
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: switch over the offensive.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Side of the ball.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I want to grab any other comments here, buy anything else,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: anything else? See more comments going in? All right, see
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of you guys having conversations with each other,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: which is awesome. I'm not saying that negatively, but we're
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: saying okay, cool. Any other thoughts on defense, feel free
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to put him in there. I want to move towards
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. We'll start with the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: QBS because that was the most recent comment. I was
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised with Mitch Trubisky today. Granted Shavers was wide
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: open on that deep ball to kind of end the half,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but him making, you know, taking some more throws. I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: felt like he's been timid the past couple of years.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I mentioned it on several shows over the last couple
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: of weeks, both on my show here and on other
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: shows that I've been on. I feel like Trubisky, what
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: happened with him in Chicago like broke his spirit. And
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: even in camp let alone the preseason, it's just always been.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Like kind of check it down.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want to try anything. I don't want to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: try and fit this throw I don't want to take
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a shot. I felt like he was looking for some
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: more chunks and kind of taking some shots, which was
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: nice to see from him. Even the ball to Davidson
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: was pretty decent. I think I'm still a Trubisky throw.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: But the ball to Shavers was good. He had to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: throw on the run to Palmer, which I think he
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: could have potentially hit him a little earlier, but he
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: still got that done. It was nice to see him
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: moving and throwing a little bit, and I thought Mike
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: White had some nice throws as well. I thought overall,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: again got to see the tape and see what reads
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: were available, what the concept was, you know, who's number one,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: who's two, who's three, what does the progression look like?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: But I thought both of them played fine today. I
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: had some moments on the back end pre this game.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I was very much Mike White over Mitch Trubisky. I
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: just thought Mike White had more kind of gun slinger
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: in him and was willing to push the ball a
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: little more and try some things, whereas again Trubisky was
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: very timid. But I thought both both played fine from
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: a preseason standpoint and from a backup standpoint. So we'll
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: kind of see what happens with good performances. I thought
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: for both qbs, largely from a box score standpoint, just
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: from a game standpoint, we'll see what happens with him
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: going forward, staying in the backfield. Just a quick, quick clip.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I like Reggie Gilliam. Give me more Reggie Gillium. The
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: run game started to click a little bit with him
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: in there. They were running some traditional counter and power.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: It looked like with him, you can just do so
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: many things, whether he's a full back, whether he's an
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: offline tight end, you put him in motion. He had
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that nice design to him with the or that looked
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: like by design. Again, I got to see the tape.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he released on his own or
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: if that play was by design. Based on the timing,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it looked like it was by design. With when Gilliam
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: he caught that like twenty yard pass where came in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: motion play action looked like he was gonna settle the
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: block and then snaps across the Trubisky's face right as
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Trubisky hits the top of his drop and he checks it,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you know, checks it down to Gilliam. I really liked
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: that play design from Brady if it in fact, again,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: if it was by design, but I gotta see the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: tape for it. I like Reggie Gillium.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I just think he's athletic enough to do some things
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that you want athletically in the past. But he's a
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: hammer as a blocker. There's a couple of runs and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna show him on Twitter in the coming days,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: like him just crunching linebackers. One. I think he crunched
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Burns inside the one where Ray Davis like fell down
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: but then got up and still ran for another like
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: four or five yards. Reggie Gilliam caved that entire sided
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like he ran the defensive end I think was Brian
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Burns cut inside. Gillium logged him, pushed him down and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: then caved in that whole side. That was beautiful to see.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Ty Johnson I see in the comments. Yeah, Ty Johnson
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: looked good. A couple of really good runs for Ty Johnson,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: some broken tackles, stiff arms, some speed, some juice. I
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: think Ty Johnson underrated as a back. I think it's
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: awesome that he's RB three for the Bills. I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: he's more than capable of being a solid RB two
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: for a team. Davis looked fine today. Gore we talked
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: about earlier. Frank Gore continues to just look really good again.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's the preseason, but man, he just his
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: movements like one cut. Guys seem to kind of melt
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and fall off him. He's able to shake guys, break tackles.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: He's got enough speed, He's got some shake to him.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: He falls forward, he's got some power. Yeah, he's just
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's the sexiest in any regard, but
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: he just seems to be above average in a lot
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. It was really good to see
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: him balling out. Even Darrnton Evans, you know, Darrynton Evans.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Get him running those little Choice routes or Texas routes
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: out of the backfield. He's nice. He's got some speed,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: he can get up field a little bit. I thought
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the Bill's running backs had a good day today. The
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: backfield in general, thin QB's made some nice plays. I
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: thought Reggie Gilliam had had some really good reps pass
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: catching one but several really good ones as a run blocker.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And then the running backs looked good receivers. You know,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: go to it earlier I forget who.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Let me go back to it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Who had it? I think I would say, I think
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: it was Charles, Yeah, Charles saying Shavers with the rocket icon. Yeah. Man,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: nice catch early on, nice deep ball from Trubisky to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: end to end the first half, even the incompletion to
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: start the second half with Mike White where it was
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: kind of that miscommunication. I think it was more on
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: White throwing to the wrong spot than it was Shavers
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: going to the wrong spot. But you could see him
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: stem that route release outside sell up field, Bank snaps
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: it right back down, sits down, created some separation. He's
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: had some flashes throughout the you know, the past couple
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: of years as well. But in a year where Samuel's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: banged up. But again I don't think he's going inwhere
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: because of his cap hit, but Samuel being banged up.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Elijah Moore has missed some time, Kalushakir has missed some time.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: You've got guys getting a lot of reps with the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: ones throughout training camp, and I think that's benefited Tyrell
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Shavers and a man I. Shavers has made a really
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: good case for being wide receiver five. He's also got
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: a really nice combination of like size and length and
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: frame and hands and also some long speed. I think
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people, myself included, I thought they'd
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: keep five wide receivers, and I thought the fifth wide
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: receiver would be Elijah Moore. The four in front of him,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I thought would be Kurtis, Samuel Khalushakir, Kean Coleman, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: then Josh Palmer. But if you told me the Tyrol
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Shavers is wide receiver five right now, I don't think
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. Elijah Moore does give you the benefit of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: kind of playing some of that Khalishakir role. So we'll
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: kind of see what starts to happen with him, you know,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: going forward meeting Shakir and kind of how do you
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: supplement that role and then more being able to kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: of fit it in addition to wearing you know, multiple hats.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: But Shavers look good and he's a guy that you know.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I think they during the broadcast, they had that quote
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: from Benford about you know, guy's pulling for him because
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: they've seen how hard he's worked. He seems to have
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of got his support behind him from the team,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: And yeah, man, I thought he played really well today.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: It literally. Shavers rocket ship up. Wilkerson I thought had
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: some nice moments today. Really wish he could have gotten
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: his feet down in bounds on that one handed grab
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: around the corner. That would have been crazy. But Wilkerson
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: had some nice moments. Gosnell finishes with some good stats
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: in the box score, but mostly garbage time, so I
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: kind of want to see how that kind of shakes out.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Saw some nice things from Palmer. I like the way
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: he stemmed his route on that cross or from Trubisky
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, where he released kind of hesitated
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and kind of dead legged and then hit that cross
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: or separated against Banks and then continue to create separation
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: across field. I thought that was nice.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Didn't see much from Keon.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I bet again a lot of it comes down to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: kind of what the offensive doing at that point, the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Giants defensive line causing chaos and having pressure, so the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: receiver is always going to suffer anytime there's pressure or
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: anytime the qbs aren't necessarily up to snuff. But I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: was really encouraged by Shavers. Wilkerson had some moments. I'm
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: excited to see the tape for both of them, and
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: especially on the Shaver's play at the end of the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: first half.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he got so wide open. I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: feel like, was it a busted coverage. Did he just
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: burn by somebody. I don't understand how you let somebody
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: behind you at the end of the first half like that,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: But we'll see. But either way, good for him. He
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: had some nice moments in this game. Tight end oh Man.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: A couple drops for Davidson, disappointingly, the second one over
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the ball coming out of the backfield. I thought he
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: should have caught it, but it was a bit on
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Mike White. White put it a little like it came
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: in a little hot and was a bit outstretched and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: kind of hit Davidson more on one hand than it
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: did hit him in two. Had that deep drop, which
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: again the ball was a little bit behind him, but
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: he could have adjusted a bit better, protected himself, kind
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of shielded the defender a little bit. But a couple
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: of disappointing drops. Disappointing dropped for Hawes. I also thought
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: we'd see more of Hawes in this game. I felt
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like we saw just as much of the other depth
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: chart tight ends as we did Hawes, if not more so,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I thought I was a little disappointed in that I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: wanted to see him a bit more. I also thought
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: we would see him a bit more, but alas we
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: did not. I really liked the tight end leak for
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: the touchdown to Dawson Knox. I think tight end leak
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: concepts and delays have a ton of value in today's NFL,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: especially if you're a good running team, especially if you're
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a good running team that uses play action. So love
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: seeing that. Also on that drive, something I just mentioned,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I love seeing them hit play action. They ran the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: ball and then play action, play action, play action. That
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: drive was filled with play action. This team last year
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: one of the best run games in all of football,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: but only an eighteen percent play action rate, which was
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh in the league last year. One of my
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: few qualms and gripes with this offense last year it
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: was it's criminal that they did not use more play action,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and especially with how the instructure passing game struggled at
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: times and how they struggled to generate explosives or create
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: separation or create chunk plays. Play action is such an
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say easy, but a nice way
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: to add separation or create explosives for you, or create
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: some space, create some tim says Pistol with the sad face.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't see.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: We didn't really see a pistol. But again, maybe they're
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: gonna bust it out in the regular season. They just
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to do it. They don't want to tip their
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: hand right now. I'm still still holding out faith for it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: If they are, and not all jokes aside, not even
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: to just play Devil's advocate. If they are going to
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: work in more pistol this year, we're not really going
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: to see it in the preseason. We might see a
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: player to hear from it, but if that's something that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: they're really kind of tweak into the offense this year,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: we're not gonna see it until the regular season. I
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: am still holding out hope, but we'll see. But yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I love that play action drive that first touchdown of
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: the game. Again, they move, they work play action throughout
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the rest of the game, but that second that touchdown
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: drive really felt like they were just you know, spamming
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: play action, which I thought is tremendous because it's an
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: area that I think will further help this offense ascend.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Five and be an easier way to create some instructure
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: passing rhythm, instructure passing success, create some chunk plays, create
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: some twenty yard throws, create some fifteen plus you know,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: being able to take the intermediate, being able to attack
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: the deep and then create some separation too potentially if
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: they can so. I like that as well. In conjunction
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: with the overall flow of the offense today, offensive line
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I saw some issues in protection. I felt like Lunt
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: got driven back into the backfield several times. Again, the
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: offensive line I think is a bit of from a
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: death perspective with all the guys that are banged up
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like Cedric vampiren Grangers out, Alec Anderson is out, so
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the depth guys have are missing some bodies. Vandermark I think,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: had a rough rep early on where he got some
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: push pull from Brian Burns and Burns just dropped into
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the ground. But again, the Giants have a crazy good front.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Shout out to them for their starters and kind of
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: what they built and how they attacked. I really do again,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to pass judgment or decision on the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: trenches right now, really for either side of the ball,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: but especially on the offensive line.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Because I need to tape for that.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: You got to see what the protections were, what the
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: run call was, what the past call was, five man protection,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: six man. You know what they were iding and the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: pressure that came, so on and so forth. How they lost,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: why they lost, how they won, why they won. But
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I thought they struggled at times. Thought they solidified a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: bit as the game went on, But early on I
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: thought they struggled a bit sporadically and even just the starters.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: But again, I think that's more of a testament to
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the giants front. Giants got they got dudes up there.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got a squad on that side of the ball.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: What else offensively, if you have question the thoughts, common turns,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: anything on the offense, feel free to put it up
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: into the chat.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and start going.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Through where did ca Where did I leave off? Charles saying,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: can Shavers be the wide receiver version of Ty Johnson?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Good on teams and can contribute as a wide receiver
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: when called upon? That's an awesome comp He would be lucky.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I not say lucky like it's out of Roman possibility,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: but if we got that, like, he would be lucky.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: To be the wide receiver version of Ti Johnson. That
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: would be very successful and I would take that. If
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you could give me that, I would take that. Elashaar
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: is saying, if Davidson wants to make this team, he
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: better catch every pass that comes his way, because we
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: all know he's not much of a blocker. You have
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: very fair Connor talks Buffalo reping Ty Johnson. Yep, Ty Johnson,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you like we talked about Ben. I had a good
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: day today. Kay Morey's saying, I think all the running
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: backs show good flashes. Yeah, I you know, similar to
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: kind of last offseason or last off season, last preseason
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: where the running backs all had good days. Yeah.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I thought the running backs looked good today.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gordon saying Jackson Hawes's drops were disappointing. Was it
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: drops plural or was it one? It might have been two,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: but yeah, disappointing. Richard saying Jordan Hancock was pretty good
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: out there. Great athleticism, look quick. I agree. I agree, Yeah,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Gordon messing this to a lot of guys slipping today. Yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the field or guys
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: picked the one kind of cleats, but a lot of
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: guys were you know, having lack of stability in their
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: footing coming forward, dropping backs. I decided I didn't know
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: what was going on, disappointing Mark saying and thinking, I'd
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: rather keep Shavers is the sixth wide receiver instead of
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: exposing him to the practice squad. I'd cut Dwayne Carter
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: as opposed to Shavers on ability as a gunner on
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: special teams. If they can get quality special teams reps
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: from time rel Shavers, that would be absolutely tremendous. If
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: they could get that from him in some form or fashion.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think right now, little bit. Yes, some
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: kick return and some punt return last year twenty twenty three,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: no special teams snaps. Yeah, if they can get something
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: out of him on special teams, like if he can
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: be a gunner, especially with that length and that long
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: speed in the size and frame, that would be great.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I do think it's hard for Carter.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: If Larry Ogunjobi wasn't suspended, your top four is pretty
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: locked at at Oliver Daikwon Jones, Larry Ogunjoby, and TJ. Sanders,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: And then if you're keeping a fifth defensive tackle, I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: really think it's between Carter and Walker and The big
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: thing was just was Carter or was Walker going to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: be healthy? Could he repurpose some of his body weight,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: change his body composition, get his back and right shape.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: At this point, even though it's just one game, the
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: small set, the sample size is far too small, but
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: he's shown more flashes than Carter. I'm fine if you
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: wanted to cut hard to keep Shavers or if it's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: cutting Carter too, because Walker's making it ahead of him.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: I said it coming into.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: This season, I thought Carter, you know, depending on what
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the Bills did on their defensive line, it was gonna
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: be a little worrisome for him and the Bills drafting
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Sanders and Walker and trading up for both of them.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's hey, I think it's yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a chance Carter could be odd
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: man out, which is unfortunate for him and for the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Bills because they used the third round pick on him
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: last year. Josh saying, Hawes might be my favorite draft pick.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You could see his strength, which he didn't drop that pass,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: but it was cool to see the blocking. Everyone has
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: been talking about dude as a monster and a masher
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: as a runner, as a run blocker, He's also got
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: some bursts and some explosion in the zero to ten
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: yard areas. But yeah, I can't drop that pass. Can't
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: drop that pass this point, Lawrence s has so many
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: ole Miss players scoring points in this game. Very fair.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Oh good call here, Gordon. I did not see the presser,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so I like hearing this, Gordon says, McDermot said, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: his presser. He needs to see Shavers do more in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: special teams. They know what he is at wide receiver.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: That's interesting because they know what he is at wide receiver.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: That makes me think do they already think like what
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: he's shown is what he is, or do they think
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: he can do more and they think that he will
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: do more. That's very interesting, Very interesting, Steve says, some
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: of us forget Shaver's ran a four three seven, which
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: is amazing at his size. Did he run a four
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: three seven? I'm not saying you're incorrect. I did not
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: know that. I knew it was faster than you would think.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But fair. Jefferson's of them just here for the sparkler
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: versus snake talk. I love snakes and Sparklers. Great Joe
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Dirt reference. Mm hmmm, loucing early in the game. It
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: looked like our offensive line was surprised, question mark by
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the violence from the Giants d line. Carter got Dawkins once,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm just not used to seeing anyone do that. Yeah,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: he got them on an inside move that I talked
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: about earlier. Was real clean, real nice. I don't know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I think some teams get you know, get geeked up
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: more for preseason maybe than others. I don't know if
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: it was the Giants care more, of the Bills cared less.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: The Giants are better, the Bills are not. There's any
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: complacency there. I also think Abdul Carter is just really
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: frigging good and it's possible to get got by anybody
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: at any time, any given Sunday. But yeah, it looked
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: like they were pretty juiced up to start the game.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I will say that. But I also think they're just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a good unit. I think that Giants defensive line is
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: going to be a problem for a lot of offenses
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: to deal with us, not even because they have talent,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: but they've got rotational ability, like just what they are
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: from a high end standpoint, you know you have Abdul Carter,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: you've got Dexter Lawrence is one of the best defensive
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: tackles in all the football. Then you have Abdul Carter,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: You've got Brian Burns, and then what you get from
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: just the rest of that grouping on the interior, even
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: you know Roy Robertson Harris I think is an underrated
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: type of player. And then you're parent again with the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: second level dudes, like we talked about Bobby o'caarak is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a nice piece Mike with Mike mcfadd and I forgot
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: about freaking Cavon Thibodeau. Like, they just have dudes who
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: can rotate. They're just mean and quick and violent and nasty. Yeah,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: they gotta, they gotta, they gotta. They got a good group,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't know what else to say.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: They got a good group. Bum oh good pull from
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Charles Charles saying Shavers was an outstanding gunner in college.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: I thought he played good teams, but I could not remember.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: That's fair, Tim says, I thought the Laviska. I thought
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Leviiska should not kept his hive on life support. That's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: fair he did. I think that's fine. Yeah, Elish are
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: saying aunt Landon Jackson doesn't seem to have much of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: a pass rush arsenal. What are your thoughts of his
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: play of late and what are your expectations for him
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I don't think he has much of
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: an arsenal. I think he's really just a compression guy
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: and a cross chopped guy. He can extend that long arm,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: drive somebody into the backfield, or kind of just go
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: through them speed to power, use that length and create
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: some leverage and drive a guy into the backfield, compress
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: the pocket, or he'll use that cross chop, pin the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: outside arm in and try.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: And get around the arc.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he has much from a move
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: set standpoint, And I also wonder what he can get
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to because, like I mentioned earlier, he.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Is high cut, so he's got long.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Legs, and he doesn't have a lot of you bend
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: flexibility dip to him because of how he's built physically,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: so there's only so much you can do. I think
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: he really is always kind of gonna be a compression
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: guy and a power type of guy, where it's just
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: let me play good run defense, let me set the edge,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and let.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Me try to go through guys.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: My expectations for him this year are more of a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: bottom of the depth chart type of role. I think
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: if everyone's healthy at edge and when Hoyt is back
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: from suspension, your top four, not necessarily in disorder, are Russou, Epanessa,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Bosa and Hoyt. That's what you're getting at edge, and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: then on third downs or certain situational elements, they'll hoit
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: inside and do different things with him or line him
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: up as that spinner hopefully. So I really think it
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: comes down to do the Bills keep five defensive ends
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and is that fifth defensive end of von Solomon or
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: land In Jackson. I think Jackson could get more snaps
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: him or for Solomon, they could get more snaps if
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Bosa misses time, especially in those first six weeks while
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Hoyde is out. But I don't really have the highest
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: expectations for land and Jackson. I wasn't too high on
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: him coming out of college. I think the value was
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: fine in the third round considering where a lot of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: people had him pegged and what I think his floor is,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: which is a good run defending edge who can compress
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the pocket a little bit, great motor, plays with violence,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: plays with tenacity, but because of the physical build, I.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Think that limits him a bit.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: So my expectations from him are just kind of like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: a bottom of the depth chart contributor. This year. You
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: can kind of see what he pairs that together with
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: how he develops, and he can kind of stack some
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: things and improve. Okay, what else? Good call from Lauren.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Lauren says Hard Knocks will probably highlight Shavers. Now, I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that's fair, that is fair that in the contract situation.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I think that think the I think the lead in
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I'm calling it now, I'm gonna shoot my shot. The
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: lead in for episode two is they do the intro
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's even before if they do like the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: cold open type of deal. But I think the opening,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: like the main opening shot is Cook from that Sunday
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: practice two days after the scrimmage, him and his white hat,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the white top, the white pants, sitting.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: On the bike, riding the bike.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: That's what I think the opening shot is, or something
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: of like Cook walking or not practicing or just standing.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I think the first like fifteen minutes highlight Cook or
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: focus on the Cook contract situation. And then yeah, maybe Shavers,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: especially with the injury and he balled out in this game,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: maybe they show footage and when he got that injury
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: on that first Sunday practice and everybody got carted off
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and all the players were checking on him. And going
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: from that to play really well in this game. I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: think that's a good call. I think Shavers gets a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: highlight and I think Cook gets focused. Yeah that and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: seeing comm Yeah comment here that Giants d line is serious,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: but yeah they are no nonsense and they got some
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: do it on the back end.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: They could play.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Man mm hmmmm hmm. Okaymore so, I think the Giants
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: will not be great at the very but uh will
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: not be great, but at the very least fun with
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: their defense at some of their offense. Yeah, I think,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what Russ does. I think they'd
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: be more fun on offense with Jackson Dart. But even
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: just like throwing moon balls to Malik Neighbors from Russ
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: to Neighbors, that should be fun in and of itself,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: and that defense on top of it, Yeah, you could
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: get that. Spirits saying even though Bosa did not show
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: up on the statue, he was consistently getting pressure. I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: think that's fine. What Marx's and looking at the roster
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: projection I posted, I think safety is an area for improvement.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: What do you think about adding Justin Simmons. I didn't
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: want watch him with Atlanta last year, so I don't
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: know what he was last year. My most recent tape
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: study of him was from twenty twenty three. I would
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: take him.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: And potentially put him over Hamlin.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I know that might be mean or sound bad to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: some people, but I what a thousand percent take a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: look at Justin Simmons. But what's also tough is.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Too Then you're bringing in Simmons now.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: And Grantedy's a vet, a smart dude, I don't know
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: if he can acclimate to all the things that they
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: need mentally from that safety spot in addition to the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: physical on top of with him had miles on the tires.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I think that's
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a fair question to ask. Bill's fan seventy eight eighty
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: three says Frank Gore Junior looks like an NFL running back.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. Multiple comments here for who is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: who is forty nine? I want to get back to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: the I was like A said, no, Nu, Yeah, forty
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: nine was all over the field? Is he a walk on?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Another comment here? Yeah, whoever forty nine was at linebacker,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: definitely everywhere. I think it's funny because he's wearing forty
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: nine and he's got dregs, so he looks like Tremaine Edmonds.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: A little bit. But that is Keyanta Jenkins, who yeah.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Bit undersized, a little skinny, but yeah, he was flying
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: around a little bit making some place. Nice to see
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: him making those plays. Yeah. Any final questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: anything and everything you folks want to get into. Feel
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: free to start to put it into the chat. Oh, Charles,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: you're preaching the choir here. Charles says, if I'm looking
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: to add another speed wide receiver, Jaalen Coker would be
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: a great target.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Not saying the Bills will do it, but someone should.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: I love Jalen Coker. I liked him coming out of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Holy Cross. I put out a bunch of tape from
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: him going into last year's draft, and if you remember,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: after Day three, Greg and I did the post show
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and read from someone or thought he read from someone
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: that the Bill's got Coker as a UDFA and I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: jumped for joy literally on the stream and then found
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: out it was incorrect. I really love Jalen Coker. Yeah,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: I like this tape. A bunch at holy Cross. He
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: just he has a good mix of size and athleticism
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: and hands and speed, and.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: I like his game tremendously.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: And he's over six feet like two hundred and fourteen
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: fifteen pounds somewhere around there. I really really like Jalen Coker.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: I would be.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I would pull Jalen Cocher in immediately as wide receiver
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: five right now and not think twice. And I think
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: he's better than being a wide receiver five on this team.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just say that I really do like, I really
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: do like Jalen Coker. Yes, Gordon says, Jaalen Coker is
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: a Panther, isn't he? Yes?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that Panther receiver room is kind of interesting.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: You got Coker, you have feeling, You've got McMillan, You've
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: got Laget, Bryce Young looks like he's starting to kinda.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Find his way with that team. Yeah.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Coker had one touchdown last night and another really good catch.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: He had some moments too last year, even with the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the Panther struggling, had some moments and had some plays
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: where am I yep dating Corker's But Lou says, I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: don't see anyway Carolina, let's Coker go at this point
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: with a gat consistently shooting himself on the foot. Don't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: put that negativity out here, lou No, you should see
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: all the ways that Carolina let's Cocer go. Think positively. Oh,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you should only be thinking that they let him go.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: That's it. They should just outright cut him. Let's not
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: worry about why. Let's not worry about if it makes sense.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: Let's just think, you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Know what, They're gonna cut him, and the Bill should
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: take him.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: And bring him in immediately. I man, I would be.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: I would be crazy. Oh, that's actually fair. Att Alesha
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: just says in the comments, if Coker is a panther now,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: he'll probably be on the Bills in a few years.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: That's super fair. Yeah, I just need to wait. I
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: just need to wait until he finishes out his rookie
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: contract and then he'll be on Carolina North. That's super fair.
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  Speaker 1: some more comments that I missed here? Ah, as we
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  Speaker 1: went through, where was one? There was one I wanted
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: to see. I left off at Frank or Junior looks
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: like an NFL running back. Oh the Coker comment?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where was something else?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Oh? Steve saying I wish Christian walkersiker return kicks because
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: he sneaky good a wide receiver. I wanted to bring
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: this up to talk about the returner position in general.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: It's just I like Codrington as a returner. It's gonna
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: be hard for me to cut one of the DB's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: or receivers or anybody to kind of make space for
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: a guy who just plays one thing. Codrington doesn't do
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: any other special teams, and he's probably not seeing the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: field as an actual nickel corner, so it's gonna be tough.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I would love if some other position player could somehow
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: make up the returner piece, and I value special teams.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: But even if it was like Ray Davis and Ty
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Johnson as kick returners like they were at points last year,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: or if Shakiir was the part returner, or Shakir could
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: be the kick returner too. Honestly, like I I just
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: want the ball in Shakir's hands. But yeah, I wanted
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: to bring this up because the returner piece in general,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I think is a wonky one because if you're keeping Codrington,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: you're essentially keeping him just for that spot, which isn't
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of positional value and roster flexibility that you're
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: building into that. So kind of see what happens with
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: that a little bit. Lew says, am I allowed to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: wish cast for Hunter Renfro. Instead we get all our returners.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: We get a returner in all phases, our wide receiver
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: five who can cover the Shakiro role. M be a gunner.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: That's fair Hunter Renfro suite, especially the pre the Oakland
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Ray version of Hunter Renfro. But I refuse to not
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: stand for Jalen Koker.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: But I I respect your choice.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I respect your choice. Bam, what else do we got? Yeah?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I think I see a lot of questions about like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster and who you know kind
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: of makes this based off of you know, or the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: initial roster or the fifty three or the kind of
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: have the depth chart shaken out. I am not ready
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: to make any kind of case of that right now.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I think we have to see how preseason week two
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I need to see more live game action, and the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: fact that we only get three games instead of four
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: makes it even harder. I think let's continue to see
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: that so I'll be in more of a position to
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: answer roster questions, the initial and the final once we
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: get through preseason week two. But that'll be a conversation
• 1:16:57
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• 1:17:00
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• 1:17:01
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  Speaker 1: forward here on the show. But yeah, thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for everybody for tuning in live and joining me
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  Speaker 1: here comments, the back and forth of each other with myself.
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  Speaker 1: If you watched later, listen later, whatever have you, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: former fast and your episode consumption comes in.
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  Speaker 3: I great greatly and sincerely appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, it means a lot to me to see everybody
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  Speaker 1: who tunes in live and watches after and the kind
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  Speaker 1: words and appreciation that comes through for myself and the
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  Speaker 1: gossip comment Bob says, I came in late and I
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  Speaker 1: got short of a blueberry in my muffin as punishment.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, Well done, Bob. There's nowhere to I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: make I was already close to the end of the show,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna end it now. There's nowhere to go
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  Speaker 1: but down from here. That well done, well done, that's
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  Speaker 1: a good call.
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  Speaker 3: I like that. Thank you so much for that comment.
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  Speaker 1: Bob, and appreciate you tuning in even though it's late. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you everybody. I appreciate the kind words that are
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  Speaker 1: coming through for myself as we go through. As I
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  Speaker 1: always say, I don't like to pull I see them
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  Speaker 1: and they mean a lot. I don't like to pull
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  Speaker 1: them up because I think there it's corny to kind
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  Speaker 1: of just be by myself and pull up positive comments
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  Speaker 1: about myself.
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  Speaker 3: It's like pad of my own self on the back.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. It's weird. Lauren says, I'm gonna go tell
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  Speaker 1: all my enemy to tune in, keeping those enemies close.
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  Speaker 1: That's also a really good comment. Oh you and Bob,
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  Speaker 1: chat here, Lauren. Like seeing you on Hard Knocks as well.
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  Speaker 1: me there. Yeah, good times. I understand people's frustrations and
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  Speaker 1: or excitements, but let's all chill, positively or negatively. Just
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  Speaker 1: preseason week one, not even NFL regular season week one.
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  Speaker 1: It's just preseason week one. Let's see what happens as
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  Speaker 1: we get more sample sized. It starts to get more
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  Speaker 1: context than things at it as we go forward. Enjoy
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  Speaker 1: Thank you all very much, and as always, go Bills.