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Ohio State Football: Ryan Day Celebrating Good News In Transfer Portal · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, April twenty eighth,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The Texas game in one
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  Speaker 1: am back. I had a little bit of an unexpected
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  Speaker 1: family situation gesturing vaguely. Everything worked out fine, just had
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  Speaker 1: a sort of emergency trip across the country. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much to Tony and Kevin and everyone else
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  Speaker 1: who hoped fill in in my absence, even if they
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  Speaker 1: didn't always get the dates exactly right. It's fine, it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what the show's really about. The show's really
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  Speaker 1: about talking about Ohio State football, and we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: doing that again today with our buddy Tony Gerdaman safely
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  Speaker 1: out of the host chair, just sitting relaxing, letting me
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  Speaker 1: carry the load as usual. That's okay. Tony always glad
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  Speaker 1: to have you back. We got to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: end of the transfer portal window, that window closing, because
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  Speaker 1: this is one of these like the Sherlock Holmes where
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  Speaker 1: it's the dog that doesn't bark. The news about Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State and the transfer portal in the spring was the
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  Speaker 1: players who didn't transfer. They had four guys who left.
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  Speaker 1: It was runner back Tc Caffee, wide receiver Reestocksdale, long
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  Speaker 1: snapper Moroo Evans, and punter Anthony Veneri. None of those
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  Speaker 1: guys were scholarship players. Last year, Ryan Day, I think
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  Speaker 1: posted somewhere, was interviewed somewhere and basically said as soon
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  Speaker 1: as the clock hit midnight, he cracked a beer and
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  Speaker 1: was like, Oh, thank goodness. This feels for a team
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  Speaker 1: coming you know, that has as many talented players as
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  Speaker 1: they had and who bravely was willing to put their
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  Speaker 1: spring game on television. That feels pretty remarkable to not
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  Speaker 1: lose a single scholarship guy to the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 2: You make a great point, Tom, the way that Ohigher
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  Speaker 2: State has brazenly made their roster available to the public
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  Speaker 2: at large, to know, hey, we've got players here that
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  Speaker 2: you might like. It is interesting. It's the fact that
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  Speaker 2: I think, for one, maybe and maybe this is the
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  Speaker 2: biggest reason why nobody left. You didn't have to push
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  Speaker 2: anybody out because there I don't even specifically know what
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  Speaker 2: their scholarship number is at. And well, we're talking to
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Day. Scheduled to talk with Ryan Day on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: so we can start to ask and get some of
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  Speaker 2: these things finalized, like how many scholarships are you planning?
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  Speaker 2: Kind of roster? Do you? You know what saize roster
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  Speaker 2: because they went into spring with one hundred and five
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  Speaker 2: and those aren't all scholarship players. But what does this
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  Speaker 2: look like? And I think the fact that nobody left
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  Speaker 2: the main reason they didn't have to push anybody out.
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  Speaker 2: But still, all of those players that go through spring
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  Speaker 2: and see where they are in the pecking order. Every
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  Speaker 2: year we talk about the guys who are the blueprint
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  Speaker 2: for leaving, where they've been passed by younger guys and
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  Speaker 2: things like that, it's like, well, this the writing was
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  Speaker 2: on the wall with that makes sense. None of those
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  Speaker 2: guys left either, and it's not because Ohio State's paying
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  Speaker 2: them well to stay or whatever. It's because they want
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  Speaker 2: to be here and continue on. But yeah, it's very
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  Speaker 2: interesting to me that they that no scholarship players decided
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  Speaker 2: to leave in the spring portal, because that's just not
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  Speaker 2: the norm, and it's not I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 2: norm really anywhere. So it'll be interesting to talk with
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  Speaker 2: Brian Day on Tuesday to find out why he thinks
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  Speaker 2: that is and what that means for this year.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you mentioned one hundred and five number,
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  Speaker 1: and that's something that it happened last week and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much it was really talked about, but
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  Speaker 1: the court case, the house case, they're trying to work
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  Speaker 1: out a settlement there, and the judge as they were
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  Speaker 1: sort of setting up, you know, before the settlement, sort
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  Speaker 1: of said, yeah, so there's the proposal, was you're going
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  Speaker 1: to go to one hundred and five player limit on
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  Speaker 1: the roster. Before the settlement was sort of put together,
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  Speaker 1: the judge said, I think you guys should really think
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  Speaker 1: about phasing that in so you don't have an impact
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  Speaker 1: on a ton of players right now because you had
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  Speaker 1: eighty five scholarship guys, but a lot of teams are
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  Speaker 1: carrying one hundred and twenty, one hundred and thirty guys
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  Speaker 1: in the roster, which all of a sudden multiply, you know,
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  Speaker 1: say fifteen guys per roster times one hundred and thirty teams. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot fewer scott you know, opportunities on those
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  Speaker 1: rosters immediately overnight with no real planning. So the judge said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what if you phase that in? If you thought about that,
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  Speaker 1: and then they said, well, think about it, and then
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  Speaker 1: they didn't do it because the NCAA didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it. And then the judge got the proposed settlement
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  Speaker 1: and said, okay, let me put this another way. Phase
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  Speaker 1: it in or I'm going to deny the settlement. So
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  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be phased in, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: yet know exactly what those numbers are going to be.
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  Speaker 1: When those numbers are going to you know, is it
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  Speaker 1: going to go from one hundred and twenty to one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen to one hundred and ten to one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and five. Is it going to be one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifteen to one hundred and five. We don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: They're still sort of working that out. But that's the number.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever that number is, that's the number you've got to
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  Speaker 1: be at the start of the season. So that's the challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, you're trying to put together your roster. You've
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  Speaker 1: got these guys in the portal. You could potentially still
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  Speaker 1: add guys. You're not going to lose anyone else, but
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  Speaker 1: you could potentially add guys. But you don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the number you're shooting at yet is. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of things, Tony where I've said, boy,
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  Speaker 1: if you've really had to sum up the nc doublea's
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  Speaker 1: handling of oh the last thirty years or so, there's
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  Speaker 1: been so many great opportunities to say, boy, this is
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  Speaker 1: really emblematic of the NC double is handling of this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. But boy, Tony, when a judge tells you, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you should probably think about doing this, and you're like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: we good, Like mmmm, it's probably not. That's probably like
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  Speaker 1: you want to revisit that decision.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the reference that we've used on the show before,
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  Speaker 2: it's Flanders beat Nick Parents, where you know they Flanders
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  Speaker 2: as a young child was out of control and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: you got to help us. We've tried nothing and we're
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  Speaker 2: all out of ideas, and that's the NCAA why we've
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  Speaker 2: decided to do nothing. And so yes, the judge is like,
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  Speaker 2: either grandfather all of these players in or phase it in.
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  Speaker 2: And I saw one administrator was like, well now we
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  Speaker 2: have no choice. Good, now we can get this thing done.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is what it took. What are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna do? Like, are they going to stand stand firm
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  Speaker 2: like no, we're not gonna phase this in and everything else,
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  Speaker 2: the entire deal is going to break down. So the
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  Speaker 2: judge knows she's got this kind of one at this point.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing is like, she doesn't want to negatively
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  Speaker 2: impact any of these players because it's not their fault
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  Speaker 2: that they've been, you know, taken advantage of her. However,
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  Speaker 2: now the thing is a lot of those players have
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  Speaker 2: already been cut to get down to one oh five
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  Speaker 2: by a lot of these programs, so like they've already
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  Speaker 2: been negatively impacted. But the other thing is like those
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  Speaker 2: guys were never going to play, so really it's not
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  Speaker 2: like their opportunities have been taken from them, like your
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to get beaten up on Scout team, I guess
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  Speaker 2: has been taken taken from you. But nobody that was
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  Speaker 2: going to necessarily impact a game this season was has
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  Speaker 2: been cut. But anyway, Tom that's that's tomorrow's morning show.
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  Speaker 2: That's a different morning show. What do you want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about today?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned you mentioned the ned Flanders parents thing.
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  Speaker 1: How did they solve that, Tony? They solved that with
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  Speaker 1: the University of Minnesota spancological protocol as we all know,
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  Speaker 1: and the University of Minnesota. In terms of guys who
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State is bringing in, University of Minnesota lost an
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman to Ohio State Philip Daniels during the winter
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  Speaker 1: portal and then the Minnesota actually ended up with an
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  Speaker 1: offensive linean that Ohio State was looking at a Purdue
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  Speaker 1: transfer during the spring window. But the Buck guys have
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  Speaker 1: added two players already. Again, they could potentially add many more.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know exactly how many because we don't know
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  Speaker 1: exactly what the number is. But they've added two players
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  Speaker 1: so far in the spring window, both in places where
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  Speaker 1: I think Ohio State fans and Ohio State coaches had
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  Speaker 1: looked and said I might want to add some people.
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  Speaker 1: They're up to so far. Business probably not closed for
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  Speaker 1: the spring portal season. But we'll talk about the first guy.
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  Speaker 1: It is bo Atkinson, University of North Carolina defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: He was one of the top players in the portal.
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  Speaker 1: A guy who feels like, you know, sometimes you're bringing
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  Speaker 1: in guys depth, sometimes you're bringing guys to potentially be
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  Speaker 1: immediate impact guys. Bo Atkinson feels much more like an
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  Speaker 1: immediate impact guy who could see significant snaps and make
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  Speaker 1: a real impact on this falls team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I should just go back and look
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  Speaker 2: and see in all of his numbers last year, better
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  Speaker 2: all of the numbers from Ohio State's potential other four
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  Speaker 2: defensive ends this year, and probably yes on that. But
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  Speaker 2: he's he's started, which is something that I don't think
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  Speaker 2: any of these guys. I think c J. Hicks started
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  Speaker 2: once and that was at linebacker when Cody Simon was
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  Speaker 2: injured last season. But this guy has a lot of
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  Speaker 2: experience and is productive with that experience in sixty five, six,
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  Speaker 2: six two and sixty pounds, a big defensive end that
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  Speaker 2: can stop the run, can get after the passer, and
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  Speaker 2: is proven. And so that's they have one proven defensive
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  Speaker 2: end now on the roster, and you know they like
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  Speaker 2: you know, Logan George comes from Idaho State. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: what that becomes. He had a good spring.
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  Speaker 1: C J.
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  Speaker 2: Hicks moving to line moving from linebacker. We'll see what
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  Speaker 2: happens there. Everybody feels very good about Kenyada Jackson, Kyd
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  Speaker 2: and Kirk. Can they do it as starters?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Can one of them do it as a starter? Because
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  Speaker 2: right now, I think if you were to venture a
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  Speaker 2: guest at this point, I'd say, like the opening day
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  Speaker 2: starting defensive ends would probably be bo Atkinson and Kenyatda Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I am right now. But if you've got
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  Speaker 2: a good group of defensive ends, and we've seen it
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  Speaker 2: in the past, Larry Johnson will rotate you. And and
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  Speaker 2: the thing is is that maybe the Jack Sawyer and J. T.
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  Speaker 2: Tuey Molowah were so far ahead of Kenyeada Jackson and
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  Speaker 2: kayten Curry for most of their careers there wasn't going
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  Speaker 2: to be an even rotation. Maybe it's more even this
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  Speaker 2: year because the talent is more equated than in the past.
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  Speaker 1: And one other thing that could impact the rotation numbers
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  Speaker 1: and the snap numbers for those defensive ends is if
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  Speaker 1: you feel like I mean, if you've got some bigger
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  Speaker 1: defensive ends like Atkinson, maybe if you are looking to
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  Speaker 1: slide him inside in passing situations. I mean, they've run
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  Speaker 1: that rushman package with four defensive ends on the field,
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  Speaker 1: with the middle of the defensive line still kind of
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  Speaker 1: up in the air, where they feel real good about
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  Speaker 1: their top their top two guys at you know, the
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  Speaker 1: top one guy at each position, and then behind that
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a little bit more of a shrug emoji. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'd like to add another defensive tackle or two, but
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  Speaker 1: you can also sort of help to address those numbers
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  Speaker 1: and taking some you know, taking Kayden McDonald and taking
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  Speaker 1: Edward Houston off the field a little bit to give
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  Speaker 1: them some rest is to run that rushman package more.
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  Speaker 1: And if you have four guys who you feel pretty
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  Speaker 1: good about at edge, with Atkinson and Jackson and Kayden
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  Speaker 1: Curry and Logan George, and then you know, does Don
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  Speaker 1: Kirk get in there, does Josh Mickens get in there?
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  Speaker 1: So one of those other guys, maybe even one of
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  Speaker 1: the true freshmen, you've got opportunities to sort of spell
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  Speaker 1: those inside guys situationally, if you get in a third
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  Speaker 1: and long kind of thing, that can make a difference
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  Speaker 1: there as well. The other guy that they've brought in
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  Speaker 1: so far in the portal is justin Terry Off offensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle out of West Virginia. This is one that feels
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  Speaker 1: much more like a long term play rather than a boy.
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  Speaker 1: This is someone you really need to play it be
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  Speaker 1: on the field this fall, because coming out of spring,
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  Speaker 1: I think we both felt like this starting offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: you your five starters are on the roster coming out
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  Speaker 1: of that spring game. And then Brian Day said, it's
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  Speaker 1: really more about build those numbers up because they've missed
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  Speaker 1: their numbers a couple of times by a guy or
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  Speaker 1: two the last couple of years. Just sort of rebuild
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  Speaker 1: that offensive line room off after they had a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of guys transfer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for me, like you mentioned, the starting five
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  Speaker 2: is all said, and we can get into that in
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  Speaker 2: a sect, but they are they there. They want six,
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  Speaker 2: seven and eight, and I feel like the next guy
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  Speaker 2: in is maybe Ian Moore. Then you've got to feel
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  Speaker 2: Phillip Daniels. But they know who their next center is.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably Josh Padia, But who is their next next
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  Speaker 2: guard in? And frankly it might be Austin Seerveld, which
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  Speaker 2: means you've got to have a tackle ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: And in terms of does Justin Terry factor in this
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  Speaker 2: year in that way, I don't think so. Local kid
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  Speaker 2: Pickerington Central. He's going to be the third Pickerington Central
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  Speaker 2: player on the team this year, joining the Styles brothers.
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  Speaker 2: But this is kind of what the portal to me.
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  Speaker 2: I think the future of the portal and the larger
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  Speaker 2: rosters is going to do, at least in the media,
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  Speaker 2: is bring some of the local players back home and
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  Speaker 2: now also allow you to offer some of these guys,
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  Speaker 2: like if they're going to have say ninety three scholarship
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  Speaker 2: players on the roster, because I don't think once they
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  Speaker 2: get to one oh five, ohierstand is not committed to
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  Speaker 2: going to one hundred and five scholarship players. But is
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  Speaker 2: this one of those guys that would have made made
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  Speaker 2: it as a scholarship player with an expanded roster like
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  Speaker 2: some of these local prospects that maybe a late bloomer
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  Speaker 2: type of thing, which you know, I know West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: seem to be a little bit certainly didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: lose him. That was somebody that they were counting on
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  Speaker 2: down the road, but he didn't play last year. So
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  Speaker 2: again a project this year, say project, a guy that's
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  Speaker 2: just going to continue to work. But six y six,
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  Speaker 2: you know, around three hundred and thirty pounds, a big
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  Speaker 2: kid with you know, possible future.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see if he stays at three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and thirty eight pounds or whatever he was listed at,
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  Speaker 1: you know CJ. Donaldson when he came over from West Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: They basically said, well, the good news is you don't
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  Speaker 1: have access to Tutor's biscuit world anymore, so getting these
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  Speaker 1: extra ten to fifteen pounds off of you should be fine.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, you know, does does Terry play at three
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight or three thirty five or is he more
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  Speaker 1: like in that three twenty range? As you said, he
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  Speaker 1: last year was his freshman year and he didn't play,
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  Speaker 1: So you got four years of eligibility left, so you
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  Speaker 1: get plenty of time there to sort of develop. Take
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  Speaker 1: your time. You don't ever want to rush offensive rushing
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  Speaker 1: offensive linemen who are not Paris Johnson types out there.
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  Speaker 1: That generally doesn't work real well. So have you have
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  Speaker 1: the luxury being a little bit patient, because now you
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  Speaker 1: do kind of have that quality depth at the top
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  Speaker 1: of the offensive line. It just feels like you're you're
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  Speaker 1: already in a better situation than you've been in virtually
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  Speaker 1: any of the previous years, even though you had a
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  Speaker 1: couple first round draft picks leave that offensive line room.
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  Speaker 1: So definitely a definitely an encouraging, encouraging transfer portal season
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  Speaker 1: for the Buckeyes in the spring, and that they're probably
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  Speaker 1: not done. Probably do a show later in the week
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  Speaker 1: looking at some of the other opportunities, other options out there,
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  Speaker 1: because there are plenty of other names out there and
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  Speaker 1: there are certainly some areas where the Buckeyes are looking
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  Speaker 1: to add some more folks. Be talking about that with
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  Speaker 1: That'll do it for today. Thank you guys all for
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