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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Family Law Talk.
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Presented by Kirk Stangy of Stangy Law Firm DC. Stangy
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Kirk Stangy.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome to Family Law Talk. We have an interesting topic today.
- 0:21The topic is what is a default divorce? And this
- 0:24is based on an article on our blog Divorce Lawyers
- 0:28Saint Louismo dot com dated October eighteenth, twenty twenty three,
- 0:33and the title of that article is what is a
- 0:35default divorce in Saint Louis. So as a follow up
- 0:38to the episode today, going over to that blog and
- 0:40read the article titled what is a default divorce in
- 0:43Saint Louis. But let's go ahead and jump jump into
- 0:46the topic today. Obviously, a contentious divorce can be troublesome
- 0:51and nobody wants it. Certainly a separation can be difficult
- 0:55lots of instances as well, particularly cases where maybe there's
- 1:00been fighting or arguing taking place at home, or maybe
- 1:03it's a situation where one party wants the divorce and
- 1:06another party doesn't want it. Maybe they think the marriage
- 1:10is still savable or something in that regard. All right,
- 1:13So then jump into the topic of what's a default
- 1:16divorce will look. Oftentimes, a divorce begins where one party
- 1:20files that divorce. They file the paperwork to get the
- 1:24process going, and then what they attempt to do is
- 1:28serve the papers on their spouse. Sometimes, again a spouse
- 1:33doesn't want a divorce, maybe they don't want to accept
- 1:36the papers. So oftentimes service can be waived. But let's
- 1:40say a party refuses to do that, they refuse to
- 1:42wave service. Then what ends up happening is a share
- 1:47for special process server actually has to serve those papers
- 1:51on the other party. Sometimes that can be easy, sometimes
- 1:55that can be difficult. It just depends papers. Divorce papers
- 1:59could be served at home, they could be served at work.
- 2:02Let's say they could be served at other locations as well,
- 2:07and that can be easier if a person has a
- 2:09pattern of going to the same place. And certainly special
- 2:12process servers who are not sheriffs, so they're not employees
- 2:16of a county but they're private will oftentimes engage in
- 2:20greater efforts to obtain service, and so they might go
- 2:23to other locations to attempt to serve the papers. But
- 2:27let's say they serve the other party the papers, so
- 2:30they find them, they give the papers to the other party.
- 2:35Then the issue that's out there is then the party
- 2:37who's been served they have to respond, so they have
- 2:40to file responsive pleadings. Obviously, this is going to vary
- 2:43based on the laws in a particular state, so there
- 2:46can be different nuances. But typically a party's got to
- 2:49file any answer to the divorce petition. Let's say, they
- 2:53oftentimes file a counter petition for divorce if they want
- 2:56it to, maybe a counter petition for legal separation if
- 3:00they're separated and they don't want to be divorced. And
- 3:02then they file other paperwork as well, typically financial statements
- 3:06and if there's kids, a proposed parenting plan and whatnot.
- 3:09But there's a timeline to do this, okay, And again
- 3:12the laws are going to vary by the state that
- 3:14a party's in, but in the state of Missouri, the
- 3:17timeline is thirty days, So it's thirty days to file
- 3:21these responsive pleadings with the court. And what ends up
- 3:25happening in some cases is a party kind of puts
- 3:27their head in the sand, okay, so they don't hire
- 3:30an attorney, they don't file their responsive pleadings within the
- 3:33thirty days even though they were served. Maybe they just
- 3:37act like they weren't served. For whatever reason, they've got
- 3:39their head figuratively in the sand. Maybe an individual doesn't
- 3:43understand the timelines, and certainly in some circumstances, parties can
- 3:48maybe procrastinate or be overwhelmed and they just don't do
- 3:52what they need to do to get the answer and
- 3:55the responsive pleading filed within the thirty days. So when
- 3:59that had happens, then what that does. It gives the
- 4:02ability of the party who filed the case and served
- 4:06the papers on the other party the ability to file
- 4:08what's called the motion for default. And the motion for
- 4:12default would again typically state, hey, the party the other
- 4:15party was served on xt date, the timeline has passed
- 4:18for them filing their responsive pleadings, and maybe the court
- 4:22has not granted an extension. So in theory a party
- 4:24can come in on day twenty nine and thirty and
- 4:27ask for more time. Courts oftentimes will liberally give some
- 4:31extra time to party. But let's say they don't do anything,
- 4:33they don't request extra time, they don't file anything in
- 4:37the thirty days have passed. Again, motion for default gets filed.
- 4:41Is the typical move and then the attorney notices the
- 4:44motion for default for hearing and again notifies the party
- 4:49who's been served of the hearing dates. So typically it
- 4:53provides a copy of it. It could be through the mail,
- 4:55or could be through electronic means like email, but they
- 4:58provide a of the motion for default to the other party.
- 5:02There's a hearing date, and then the motion for default
- 5:05is heard, and so then the question a lot of
- 5:07parties have is, well, what happens at the default hearing?
- 5:10And there's really a couple options. I mean, option one
- 5:14is the party who filed for divorce shows up with
- 5:16their attorney, let's say, and let's say the other party
- 5:18doesn't show up, they're just not there. That's possibility one.
- 5:24Possibility two as a party who was served comes to
- 5:27court and maybe they come to court with an attorney,
- 5:30or maybe they come to court by themselves, but they
- 5:32come to court, and that would be scenario two. And
- 5:37within scenario two, maybe they come to court and they
- 5:39still don't have the paperwork right, they come by themselves,
- 5:42they still haven't filed their responsive pleadings, or maybe they
- 5:46come to court and they have their responsive pleadings in hand,
- 5:48and maybe they request leave from the court to file
- 5:52their answer out of time. Okay, so these are your
- 5:54two scenarios. Under scenario two, if they show up and
- 5:58they've got their respect of pleadings and they request additional time,
- 6:02I mean, typically a judge is gonna give a person
- 6:06a little bit more time to do that. Now, if
- 6:08they're egregiously past due and maybe they've had one extension already,
- 6:13then maybe not. But if this is the first time,
- 6:16oftentimes they'll give more time. And if there's kids involved,
- 6:19then a court is typically more inclined to give more
- 6:21time because default judgments involving kids and child custodly custody,
- 6:26I should say, are typically disfavored. Okay, but then take
- 6:30scenario one. Let's say a party doesn't show up. They've
- 6:32been served their past due default judgment, motion has been filed,
- 6:37it's been noticed for hearing, they don't show up to court.
- 6:41Let's say they do not appear at the court house.
- 6:44Then typically the court proceeds on the motion for default,
- 6:48and typically the motion will be granted. Again, there could
- 6:50be some reason why the judge doesn't do it, and
- 6:54this isn't an absolute, but generally speaking, the court will
- 6:59grant the default judgment unless there's some reason not to,
- 7:03you know, maybe there's improper service here, or maybe there's
- 7:06some other concern, let's say. But if the court grants
- 7:11the default judgment, then what ends up happening is the
- 7:14default divorce is granted, so the parties are divorced, and
- 7:19then the party who filed the case and serve the party,
- 7:22I mean, typically they get what they want. So whatever
- 7:25it is they're asking for in terms of the disposition
- 7:28of the case, they typically get it. So in terms
- 7:30of the division of marital property and debt, what it
- 7:32is they want, if they're the only ones there, they
- 7:35get it. In terms of child custody, if they're the
- 7:37only ones there, typically they get the child custody award
- 7:41they're looking for. In terms of child support and spousal support,
- 7:45whatever their request is, typically they get it. And so
- 7:48in analogy I've used with clients for years is thick forfeit.
- 7:53You know, if there was a sports game that was
- 7:55taking place, one team shows up, the other team doesn't
- 7:58show up, right, the team that doesn't show up typically
- 8:01gets the loss right they forfeited the game. Here, if
- 8:06a party doesn't answer, they don't file their responsive pleadings,
- 8:10they don't show up to court to try to get
- 8:14more time or file their responsive pleadings. Typically things don't
- 8:17turn out well for them. So look, a big moral
- 8:20to the story here is don't do this. If you've
- 8:24been served papers, get a lawyer, make sure you filed
- 8:27what you need to file in the case so you
- 8:32don't end up in default. I mean, ending up in
- 8:34default is a very very bad thing and not something
- 8:37most parties want to have happened to them. Okay, the
- 8:40results are typically worse than what it would be if
- 8:43an individual hired a lawyer and did what they needed
- 8:46to do. All right. More in fall on this topic,
- 8:49a lot of parties ask, well, how long does it
- 8:51take to get a default divorce? Again, now this is
- 8:54going to very based on case and locality, but again
- 8:58the divorce has to be filed and then the other
- 9:01party has to be served, and then the time has
- 9:03to elapse. Missouri's thirty days. Other states have different time frames,
- 9:08so you have to wait for that time to lapse,
- 9:10and then you have to notice the default judgment motion
- 9:14for hearing, and typically you have to give notice of that,
- 9:17and that's going to vary based on state. Could be
- 9:20seven days in Missouri. Other states it could be a
- 9:23different time frame. And so, look, it's gonna take some
- 9:26time even at default divorce, I mean sixty days ninety days,
- 9:30it's going to vary, but maybe somewhere in that range
- 9:34would be kind of a best case scenario. And of course,
- 9:36it depends on the judge's docket. How busy is the judge.
- 9:40The more busy a judge is, the more clogged up
- 9:43their docket, this might take longer. The less clogged up
- 9:47a judge's docket might be, then you know, it could
- 9:51be the less time. So it's it's gonna vary. If
- 9:54a party, you know, is ultimately defaulted on a divorce
- 10:00and let's say after the fact, they're not happy with
- 10:03this and they're not happy with the result and they
- 10:05want to do something about it, lots of individuals ask,
- 10:08well what do I do? Then, well, you've got to
- 10:11hire a lawyer and file a motion to set aside
- 10:14the default judgment. And the quicker somebody does that, the better.
- 10:18And again, the timelines on that is going to vary
- 10:21based on state, and courts can be more lenient on
- 10:24setting aside to fault judgments based on the cause the
- 10:27reasons like why didn't the person respond? Was there good reasons?
- 10:31Where they're not good reasons. And then if there's kids involved,
- 10:35courts are typically more likely to set aside a default
- 10:38judgment if there's kids involved versus if there's not kids involved. Okay,
- 10:43So that can make a big, big, big big difference
- 10:46there in terms of default judgments. Okay, But again, at
- 10:50the end of the day, if you've been served divorce papers,
- 10:52it's important to hire a lawyer in file responsive pleadings,
- 10:56even if you want the divorce, I mean, in terms
- 10:58of the disposition, you need to file an answer responsive
- 11:01pleadings to make sure the result is fair and just
- 11:04and something you can live with. It's very very very
- 11:09very important in terms of what happens after a default
- 11:13judgment is entered. Again, I mean, the party who has
- 11:17a favorable terms has the ability to enforce the terms
- 11:21of the default judgment, so maybe collecting child supporter or
- 11:24spousal supporter, getting the property that was awarded to them
- 11:27and enforcing the chaun Cussey decision. And so again, somebody
- 11:32wants to set aside a default judgment, the sooner the
- 11:35better is really, really really important in terms of these
- 11:39default judgments. All right, well, this is the topic at
- 11:42hand and I've really covered what it is I wanted
- 11:44to cover today, So again, as a follow up to
- 11:48the episode, go on over to our blog Divorce Lawyers
- 11:52Saint Louismo dot com and read the article titled what
- 11:55is a default divorce in Saint Louis for more information
- 11:59on this topic. But thanks for tuning in today, stay
- 12:02tuned to our next episode of Family Law Talk coming up.
- 12:05Thank you very much.
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