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Murder In Moscow: Kaylee Goncalves’ Parents Renew Their Call for the Death Penalty (8/14/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to spin back up to Moscow
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to hear from Kaylee Gonsalvas's parents from
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  Speaker 1: their latest interview with Sean Hannity. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that gets lost a lot here
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  Speaker 1: is the fact that these families are suffering on a
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  Speaker 1: daily basis. No matter what happens, these kids aren't coming back.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the reality that these families have to face
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  Speaker 1: every single minute of every single day. And then think
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  Speaker 1: about the time that they were killed right around the holidays.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about somebody that's looking
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  Speaker 1: to really cause the most amount of pain and suffering,
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  Speaker 1: is there a better time? I hate to use that word,
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  Speaker 1: but a better time to do it. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that Brian Kolberger shows that time specifically to maximize the
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  Speaker 1: pain and suffering. And I also think that he is
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  Speaker 1: doing the same thing now, but I think that it
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  Speaker 1: could really backfire on him because if it goes to trial,
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  Speaker 1: I think that Brian Colberger gets the death penalty. So
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  Speaker 1: you know what they say, right, be very careful what
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  Speaker 1: you wish for. Today, we have an article from Fox
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  Speaker 1: News and the headline. Parents of Idaho massacre victim faced
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  Speaker 1: daily nightmare while demanding death penalty after shock plea twist.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Madison Colombo. The parents of
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  Speaker 1: University of Idaho's student Kaylee Gonsalves opened up about the
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  Speaker 1: daily reality of losing their daughter, revealing their morning thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and nightly prayers since her murder. Speaking on the Hangout
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  Speaker 1: with Sean Hannity podcast, Christy and Steve Gonsalves detailed their
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  Speaker 1: emotional struggle as convicted killer Brian Colberger attempts to withdraw
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  Speaker 1: us guilty plea in the murder of four University of
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  Speaker 1: Idaho students in twenty twenty two. I can't even imagine
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  Speaker 1: I'd be on some law abiding citizen shit trying to
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  Speaker 1: get myself in jail with Brian Colberger so I could do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fucking pincushioning. And I'm not even kidding when I
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  Speaker 1: say it, especially right now. Can you imagine being a father,
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  Speaker 1: a mother, a brother, a sister, whatever, and knowing that
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  Speaker 1: this disgusting fuck is now trying to walk it back,
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  Speaker 1: is now trying to say that he's not guilty after
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  Speaker 1: all the nonsense, after all the carrying on, and in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, there's only one reason, and that's because Brian
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  Speaker 1: Coberger is not done making these families suffer. The first
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  Speaker 1: thing every single morning, I often ask myself, is this
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  Speaker 1: going to be forever? Will this eventually end? Will it eventually?
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  Speaker 1: Will it not be the first thing that I think
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  Speaker 1: about when I open my eyes. Christy told host Sean Hannity,
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  Speaker 1: and the amount of shit that the Gonsales family was
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  Speaker 1: taking from people is unbelievable. I remember at the time
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  Speaker 1: being just shocked. Honestly, how could anybody criticize a father
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  Speaker 1: or a mother in the wake of them losing a
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  Speaker 1: child the way they did, The audacity of people to
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  Speaker 1: try and tell others how to grieve, And then of
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  Speaker 1: course you add people out there saying all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff about how they're hampering the investigation, et cetera,
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  Speaker 1: by trying to hold people accountable. And I said at
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  Speaker 1: the time that anybody that's criticizing them should just shut
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  Speaker 1: the fuck up until you're in the position that they're in,
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  Speaker 1: until you lose your daughter, your son, your loved one
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  Speaker 1: to some maniac who comes into the house and murders
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  Speaker 1: them while they're sleeping probably a good idea to give
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  Speaker 1: people some room to grieve how they want. But at
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  Speaker 1: this point I've learned that it's just a new way
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  Speaker 1: of life, she added. Kelly Gan saw This was one
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  Speaker 1: of four University of Idaho students killed in November of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Brian Colberger pleaded guilty in July of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five the four accounts of first degree murder
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  Speaker 1: and one count of felony burglary as part of a
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  Speaker 1: deal that spared him the death penalty. He has since
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  Speaker 1: sought to withdraw as guilty plea. And we have a
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  Speaker 1: system that affords people like Coburger chance and chance again
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to get out of prison
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  Speaker 1: or trying to get off of capital punishment. Meanwhile, we
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  Speaker 1: have people like the Gonsalva's family, like the Mogan family,
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  Speaker 1: like the Chapin family, like the kern Odles, and nobody
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  Speaker 1: cares what's going on for them, Nobody cares how this
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  Speaker 1: affects them. I find it gross, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: there is a large gap with how the families the
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  Speaker 1: victims are treated and with how the accused and now
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  Speaker 1: convicted are treated. Look, I get it, we have to
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  Speaker 1: do everything we can to make sure that Brian Colberger
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  Speaker 1: gets a fair trial if we go that direction, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm certainly on record talking about that. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, there has to be a medium ground and
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  Speaker 1: the victims' families, they have to be respected. Gonsalva's father,
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  Speaker 1: Steve added that every night Christy hopes their daughter visits
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  Speaker 1: her in her dreams so she can tell Kaylee she
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  Speaker 1: loves her. This shit is heartbreaking, and reading through those
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  Speaker 1: autopsy reports, I almost regret that I started. It's so
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  Speaker 1: disgusting and it's so evil what happened to these people,
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  Speaker 1: these kids, that it's hard to quantify it with words.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how demented and how evil and disgusting
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  Speaker 1: you have to be to do what Brian Koberger did,
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  Speaker 1: and not only that, but leading up to it, stalking them,
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  Speaker 1: watching the house, the whole thing. This fucking guy was
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  Speaker 1: one step away from becoming Frances Dollar Hide first and foremost.
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  Speaker 1: Before she goes to bed, she's praying that Kaylee comes
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  Speaker 1: and visits her. She wants to have a conversation. She
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  Speaker 1: wants to talk to her, she wants to tell her
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  Speaker 1: she loves her, she wants to say everything that we
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  Speaker 1: can't say, Steve said, and then if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: that dream, you wake up disappointed that you didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a dream about your baby and had that conversation, and
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  Speaker 1: then you just try to fake through it. He added,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say to that. The
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  Speaker 1: pain has to be so severe and the suffering has
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  Speaker 1: to be so traumatic that it must feel like you
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  Speaker 1: can't even breathe. I know all of us have lost
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  Speaker 1: loved ones, right, cancer, whatever it might be, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a hole, even though you know that it was natural causes,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the medical system did everything they could
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  Speaker 1: to help them. Whatever, this is something different. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about kids who are laying in bed on a regular
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  Speaker 1: night and who were murdered in a brutal fashion by
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  Speaker 1: an absolute monster. And now this monster thinks he should
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  Speaker 1: get a new trial after pleading guilty. Somebody please make
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  Speaker 1: it make sense. Colberger is now seeking to withdraw the
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  Speaker 1: guilty plea that spared him the death penalty for the
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  Speaker 1: murder of Gonzalez, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin, and Xana Kernodle.
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  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences in prison
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  Speaker 1: without the possibility of froll us ten years for burglary
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  Speaker 1: helicopters volcanoes. Either that or we could have him and
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  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell fight to the death and then the winner, well,
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  Speaker 1: they get thrown into a volcano. In his post conviction challenge,
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  Speaker 1: Colberger argues he received ineffective assistance of council and was
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  Speaker 1: manipulated by the court appointed attorneys into accepting the deal.
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  Speaker 1: He also alleges he was led to believe the deal
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  Speaker 1: would give him better prison conditions, and he now maintains
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  Speaker 1: that he's innocent. Say what now, you thought you were
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  Speaker 1: going to have good prison conditions as a lifer. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what you really thought? Sounds to me like you're
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  Speaker 1: just grasping at straws because you know that you're fucked,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that you're not a story anymore, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that you're going to be in prison the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your life. That's what it sounds like to me.
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  Speaker 1: The gonsalvast family said Colberger's attempt to withdraw his plea
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  Speaker 1: has been difficult for them after years of legal proceedings,
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  Speaker 1: but Christy Gonsalves said his latest challenge could provide it
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  Speaker 1: another opportunity for prosecutors to pursue the death penalty. And look,
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  Speaker 1: that is the big problem for Coburger. If he does
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  Speaker 1: get this thrown out, he's gonna have to face that.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that he's going to be found guilty
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  Speaker 1: if he gets another trial. With all the evidence we've seen,
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  Speaker 1: especially going through it now, is there anybody out there
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  Speaker 1: that still thinks this guy's innocent? Like, honestly, probably the
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  Speaker 1: same people who are trying to tell you that Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Robinson isn't a very good suspect. Now, of course we
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  Speaker 1: don't know all the details there yet, right, but it's
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  Speaker 1: sure looking like they got the right guy. Just like
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  Speaker 1: I told you after they arrested Coburger. When you go
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  Speaker 1: through the arrest AFFI David, and you start looking at
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  Speaker 1: the circumstantial evidence, it becomes pretty hard to dispute it.
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  Speaker 1: And talking about Coburger, there was an abundance of evidence
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  Speaker 1: that pointed directly to him. God is looking out for us,
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  Speaker 1: Christy said, and maybe this is because the first time
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  Speaker 1: around it was wrong, and this time around he's going
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  Speaker 1: to make sure it's done right, you know, And that
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  Speaker 1: is the death penalty. So look, I think that the
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  Speaker 1: death penalty should have always been what they were looking for.
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  Speaker 1: They should have never entered into this plea. They should
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  Speaker 1: have never given Brian Colberger any room to maneuver, and
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  Speaker 1: they certainly should have put the families through this nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: And that's most certainly what all of this is a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of nonsense. If Brian Colberger was innocent, why did
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  Speaker 1: he get up in that courtroom and tell the judge
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  Speaker 1: that he was guilty? Why not tell the judge then
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  Speaker 1: that you're being coerced, that you didn't have the proper
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  Speaker 1: legal counsel, and that you're not going to plead guilty
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  Speaker 1: because you're innocent. Could it be because the evidence was
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  Speaker 1: stacked against you? Could it be that you knew that
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  Speaker 1: you'd be cooked, And could it be that you think
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  Speaker 1: that this is the only way that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get back in the spotlight. In my opinion, that's what
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  Speaker 1: it is. I have a hard time believing that Colburger
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  Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be successful here. Instead, what he
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  Speaker 1: wants to do is get his name back out there
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  Speaker 1: and give one last fu to the families. But that
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  Speaker 1: grandstanding could lead directly to Brian Colberger getting lined up
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  Speaker 1: for a trip to the firing squad. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that we're a far way away from any of that occurring,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that there's a long road before we
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  Speaker 1: get anywhere near a new trial or anything that looks
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  Speaker 1: like it. And as things continue to shake out, we'll
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  Speaker 1: continue to follow along, and when we have some more information,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get it added to the catalog. All the information
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