Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Duane Emeny: Air Chathams Chief Executive on Airways are upping fees for commercial airlines
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The cost of flying to and from every airport in
- 0:02Speaker 1: this country is about to go up. Airways. These are
- 0:04Speaker 1: the guys who run air traffic control. They're upping their
- 0:07Speaker 1: fees seventeen point seven percent over the next three years.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Dwyane Eminy is the Air Chatham CEO with me this morning.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Dane, Good morning, very good morning, Brian.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. What does this
- 0:17Speaker 1: mean for you?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Ah, well, it's another cost. It's another structural cost that
- 0:23Speaker 2: we have no control over, that we have to you know,
- 0:26Speaker 2: somehow absorb or attempt to pass on. So yeah, it's
- 0:28Speaker 2: not a good thing.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Is it enough to put you know, regional airlines out
- 0:33Speaker 1: of business? I mean, we're seeing a lot of stories
- 0:35Speaker 1: about regional airlines struggling at the moment. Is you know,
- 0:37Speaker 1: obviously this is not a great move, But is it
- 0:39Speaker 1: enough to tip some over the edge? Do you think?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Yeah? I think what you've already seen it an't you?
- 0:44Speaker 2: I mean with sounds, are you've got fruits being cut,
- 0:46Speaker 2: you've got airplanes being sold? I can assure you that
- 0:49Speaker 2: all regional airlines, including yourselves, are looking at similar things.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So you know, it's it's not it's just not going
- 0:56Speaker 2: to work long term if we keep doing the same
- 0:59Speaker 2: old thing and hoping for a different result, I think, really,
- 1:04Speaker 2: you know, in our opinion, we've got to really get
- 1:07Speaker 2: back to the root cause of why why we have
- 1:10Speaker 2: the issue that we have today. And you know, I
- 1:13Speaker 2: look at it and think, well, we seem to have
- 1:16Speaker 2: a more expensive system from a customer perspective, but we
- 1:19Speaker 2: actually have a worse service. So why is that? And
- 1:23Speaker 2: it was interesting I was coming on talking to you
- 1:26Speaker 2: this morning. I was having a look back at some
- 1:27Speaker 2: of the reports sort of November twenty fourteen and when
- 1:33Speaker 2: Aysia made their decisions to cut one of the original
- 1:35Speaker 2: carries at the time, which was Eager Air. They had
- 1:38Speaker 2: a fleet of about eighteen small eighteen ceed aircraft that
- 1:42Speaker 2: really connected a lot of regional New Zealand and at
- 1:45Speaker 2: the time it was the decision was made to cut
- 1:48Speaker 2: that because it was costing and test reluctance words a
- 1:50Speaker 2: million dollars a month, so twelve million dollars a year.
- 1:54Speaker 2: But that that airline would be cut and then the
- 1:57Speaker 2: investment we're down into larger tubo proper aircraft. Ultimately everyone
- 2:01Speaker 2: would get a bit of service at lower cost. Well,
- 2:04Speaker 2: you know, we are ten years later and that's absolutely
- 2:08Speaker 2: not the net result hasn't happened.
- 2:11Speaker 1: What so, what do we need to do to fix
- 2:13Speaker 1: this then? Because I mean airways, I mean, well it's
- 2:15Speaker 1: a bit of a It's a monopoly, really, isn't it.
- 2:18Speaker 1: I Mean they consult and then they just charge essentially
- 2:21Speaker 1: what they want, but presumably they have costs they need
- 2:24Speaker 1: to increase and cover as well. What's the solution?
- 2:29Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you look at the airways example.
- 2:31Speaker 2: I mean, and again this is my opinion, they hide
- 2:34Speaker 2: behind their state owned enterprise band. Right, what's the legislative
- 2:38Speaker 2: requirement to provide a profit back to their shareholder? Which
- 2:41Speaker 2: is effective for a government, so you know, the government
- 2:44Speaker 2: had some control over that cost. They could actually go
- 2:46Speaker 2: to airways and say, hey, we needed a better here.
- 2:50Speaker 2: You know, we shouldn't really be making a profit while
- 2:53Speaker 2: these regional airlines and other airlines in general suffering. So
- 2:56Speaker 2: you know, what can we do about that? Because the
- 2:58Speaker 2: reality is there is no other that's going to come
- 3:01Speaker 2: in and compete against them because the infrastructure costs required
- 3:06Speaker 2: to do that are significant. So I think that's an
- 3:09Speaker 2: area that needs to be looked at. And then again
- 3:12Speaker 2: you've got to go back to the root course, like
- 3:15Speaker 2: ten years ago, twenty years ago, we had a much
- 3:17Speaker 2: more vibrant aviation ecosystem in this country. You had a
- 3:20Speaker 2: lot more airlines, a lot more aircraft, so you had
- 3:23Speaker 2: a lot more people playing into the system and paying
- 3:25Speaker 2: into the system as well. But of course, as any
- 3:28Speaker 2: zones made decisions to withdraw from these smaller regions, you know,
- 3:33Speaker 2: cut its fleet size, consolidate into larger terbo proper aircraft
- 3:38Speaker 2: and obviously into gen aircraft on some of these regional routes,
- 3:42Speaker 2: it ultimately means you've got less planes, less frequency, in
- 3:45Speaker 2: my opinion, or worse service, but you've actually got less
- 3:48Speaker 2: people playing in. So then these bloated corporate organizations like
- 3:53Speaker 2: your ways and the CIA is some extents, because they
- 3:56Speaker 2: all run corporate structures, they have high pay salaries and
- 4:00Speaker 2: really high overheads, they have to spread that across the users.
- 4:03Speaker 2: And of course the only way you can do that
- 4:05Speaker 2: is put the prices up. And that's what's happening, that's
- 4:07Speaker 2: what you're seeing. That's what's airlines like us they're trying
- 4:10Speaker 2: to put into ticket prices. The customers pushing back and saying, hey,
- 4:14Speaker 2: this is too much. I'm jumping the car and drive.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally unaffordable. Doane appreciate that really interesting stuff?
- 4:22Speaker 1: Dwyane Emini, who's Edge Adam's chief executive.
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