Latest / Karl and Crew / Freedom Friday: Because Someone Showed Me, I Now Walk With Jesus & “I Can Only Imagine 2” Movie Release with Tim Timmons
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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. Come as
- 0:05S1: you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems impossible and
- 0:11S1: live as you never imagined. Start your morning with a laugh.
- 0:15S2: Practical from the Bible. Tips and tricks to kill. Not tricks,
- 0:20S2: but tips and tricks. Tips and tricks to kill. Tips
- 0:26S2: and tricks.
- 0:26S1: Delivering the truth daily.
- 0:29S3: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up
- 0:31S3: with achievement and good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that.
- 0:35S3: Even if other people were.
- 0:37S2: The gospel changes everything.
- 0:39S4: Freedom in Christ. Man, it's like that backpack of cement
- 0:42S4: just falling to the ground.
- 0:44S1: Now, from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:49S1: and crew. Okay, I thought I'd change my shtick. I
- 0:52S1: usually come out with these kind of big announcements that
- 0:55S1: we have with a little da da la da da
- 0:56S1: la da da da da da da la.
- 0:58S5: You do?
- 0:59S3: Yeah, but you're not going to do that today.
- 1:01S1: No, I'm gonna change it. I'm gonna change it. And
- 1:03S1: I'm just. I'm just shooting from the hip here.
- 1:05S2: Come on.
- 1:08S6: Do do do do do do do do do do
- 1:11S6: do do do do.
- 1:13S2: I mean that's good. It's it's kind of tight. That's
- 1:15S2: like the.
- 1:16S3: Solid.
- 1:16S2: It's like the wake up horn in the military, isn't it?
- 1:19S1: Uh, no, that's Kentucky Derby. It's a call to a
- 1:22S1: call to the gates.
- 1:24S3: Every summer camp movie I've ever seen uses that, too.
- 1:27S2: I think it's a.
- 1:29S1: Basically get sleepy kids out of their cabins or horses
- 1:32S1: to the gates.
- 1:33S2: Yeah, one or the other.
- 1:35S3: It's very similar, actually. We do have an announcement. That's
- 1:40S3: what we're leading up to. We're actually asking for your
- 1:42S3: help with something. We are putting together a video for
- 1:46S3: upcoming spring share of testimonies from listeners just like you.
- 1:50S3: If you have a story of how God has used
- 1:52S3: Moody Radio in some strategic way, taking a next step
- 1:56S3: or a first step in your walk with Jesus. We
- 1:58S3: would love it if you were willing to record just
- 2:00S3: 15 to 30s on camera. We have step by step
- 2:04S3: instructions to make it easy for you to submit it.
- 2:07S3: We would love to actually see and hear from you.
- 2:11S3: Just text the word video if you're willing to participate.
- 2:14S3: Text video to (800) 555-7898. Text video to 800 555 7898.
- 2:23S1: Yeah. No cameo appearances from house cats or favorite dogs. Why?
- 2:28S3: Actually. Why not? I don't want to put those restrictions.
- 2:32S3: I don't want to make rules where there are no rules.
- 2:35S1: Okay, I changed my mind.
- 2:37S3: It's like, I don't know.
- 2:38S1: Actually, I didn't change my mind.
- 2:40S3: Blaze makes appearances on air all the time through story,
- 2:45S3: so I don't want to limit.
- 2:47S1: All right, if you got cats and dogs, bring em in.
- 2:50S1: If you got guppies, bring em in.
- 2:52S3: You got to do the talking, though. You gotta. But
- 2:55S3: if they want to, just.
- 2:55S1: Know if they got a talking horse, Mr. Ed, they
- 2:58S1: bring it, man.
- 2:59S2: Yeah. If you have a talking horse, I do want
- 3:01S2: them to do the talking.
- 3:02S3: I want to see that we've got.
- 3:04S1: Mr. Ed anyone?
- 3:05S2: I remember hearing about Mr. Ed from you guys.
- 3:08S1: Oh of course. Yeah, exactly. But, man, when I was
- 3:13S1: a little kid, I thought, man, that horse can talk.
- 3:15S2: That's incredible.
- 3:16S3: I remember, wasn't it part of the the Nick at
- 3:18S3: Nite lineup? That was where I saw, like, what.
- 3:21S1: Happened to Nick at night.
- 3:22S2: I know Nick at night was good.
- 3:23S3: Stuff like that was kind of like the only television
- 3:25S3: that I was, like, really allowed to watch. So I.
- 3:28S3: Some of my favorite shows as a, as a little
- 3:31S3: kid were Mary Tyler Moore was one of my favorites. Yes.
- 3:35S3: I wanted to be her. I watched the Dick Van
- 3:38S3: Dyke Show. I watched some Mister Ed. I mean, I
- 3:41S3: didn't really watch much like current television for my time period,
- 3:45S3: but I did watch a lot of the.
- 3:47S1: You and Mary Tyler Moore look a little bit alike.
- 3:50S1: How could you not? Really? Yeah, a little bit. That's
- 3:53S1: really funny that you say that.
- 3:54S3: Interesting. I just love that part. You know where she
- 3:57S3: swirls around? Oh, yeah. Throws her hat. Who can turn
- 4:00S3: the world on with her smile? And then she's like
- 4:03S3: da da da da da. And then.
- 4:05S2: She.
- 4:06S3: Throws her hat into the air with abandon. Oh, yeah.
- 4:09S3: And she launches out as an independent woman in Minnesota. Yeah.
- 4:15S3: Wherever she was. What was the name of the station
- 4:17S3: that she worked for?
- 4:18S1: WKRP.
- 4:19S3: No, that w that was WKRP in Cincinnati with you.
- 4:24S3: It was a whole other. What was the name of
- 4:25S3: the station? Mr. Grant and Ted Baxter was the weather.
- 4:29S3: They were the best.
- 4:30S2: I don't know what you guys are talking.
- 4:31S1: Grant. Grant and Baxter were the.
- 4:33S3: Oh, that's such a good show. Just. It was classic.
- 4:36S1: Baxter was so tacky. It was perfect.
- 4:38S3: Oh, it was. JM. W jm news. That's right. Jim.
- 4:44S1: Jim.
- 4:45S3: Yeah. Anyway, how did we get here?
- 4:48S2: I don't know.
- 4:49S3: Oh, Mr. Talking horse.
- 4:51S2: Classic.
- 4:52S3: Text video to 800 555 7898. If you want to be.
- 4:59S3: If you want to submit a testimonial video to (800) 555-7898.
- 5:05S1: I've been duly rebuked for not letting cameos of your
- 5:08S1: dogs or cats or guppies. So bring them in.
- 5:11S3: Bring them on in.
- 5:13S7: Breaking chains and running free. You're listening to Carl and
- 5:17S7: Crew Freedom Friday.
- 5:19S1: What a perfect day to get a radical transformation story. Ali.
- 5:24S3: And we have one for you coming up. He is
- 5:27S3: a pastor's kid.
- 5:28S1: Oh, that sets it up right there.
- 5:31S2: That's all you need to know.
- 5:34S3: Oh, boy.
- 5:34S2: Spoken as a pastor's kid.
- 5:36S3: A pastor's kid who walked a really difficult road until
- 5:41S3: he had a radical encounter with Jesus. Freedom Friday testimony
- 5:46S3: you are not going to want to miss. Coming up.
- 5:49S7: You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't
- 5:51S7: take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew.
- 5:55S7: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 5:58S1: Well, we set it up this way. When you got
- 6:01S1: a preacher's kid, you got a potential for a radical
- 6:04S1: life change story. Right, preacher kid?
- 6:06S2: Yeah. You're right.
- 6:10S1: That must do your heart some good, though, right?
- 6:12S2: It is encouraging to hear because I am also a
- 6:15S2: preacher's kid, so I. I grew up in a home
- 6:18S2: where I myself was wayward, and I had some wayward
- 6:22S2: brothers who have found Jesus. And, uh, and they talk
- 6:26S2: about it now in their stories, but it's good because
- 6:28S2: it's not as cut and dry as people would think.
- 6:30S2: It's not as glamorous as people would think.
- 6:33S1: Yeah. Stephen, what's the rub with being a pastor's kid?
- 6:36S1: There's tons of expectations. And, uh, did you feel that
- 6:40S1: as a kid growing up?
- 6:42S8: Uh, I'm actually an evangelist kid. We traveled from church
- 6:46S8: to church camp, revival to Revival. So it's a little different.
- 6:50S8: You're not in the same place all the time with
- 6:52S8: the same people, all the time. So it does have
- 6:54S8: some different dynamics that I think, you know, did lead
- 6:58S8: to probably making it really, you know, for him to
- 7:01S8: be you'd see one person on a stage preaching about Jesus,
- 7:04S8: but behind closed doors you would see somebody totally different.
- 7:07S8: My dad was honestly, physically, violently abusive with my mom.
- 7:10S8: So throughout my teens I was like, I don't I
- 7:13S8: don't want anything to do with this Jesus guy, um,
- 7:16S8: or God or any of that. Um, so at 11
- 7:19S8: years old, I started smoking, drinking marijuana, 15 cocaine, selling drugs,
- 7:24S8: 17 full out crystal meth addict using every day for
- 7:27S8: many years to come. And hated Jesus. Hated Christians. Wow.
- 7:31S8: Through all those years of addiction. So yeah, pretty dark stuff.
- 7:36S8: But you know, God writes the best stories, right?
- 7:39S3: Yeah. Amen. Steven McWhirter. Our guest right now. Uh, he
- 7:43S3: is the has a song, come, Jesus, Come, which has
- 7:46S3: earned over 100 million views and streams across many platforms.
- 7:51S3: You know, we're talking today about your debut book, Radically
- 7:55S3: Restored How Knowing Jesus Heals Our Brokenness. You mentioned the
- 7:58S3: hypocrisy that you saw in in the life of your dad,
- 8:01S3: who was a different person in front of the people
- 8:05S3: than he was at home. You started to believe some
- 8:08S3: lies about God. What were the things that you believed
- 8:13S3: to be true about God that turned you off?
- 8:16S8: You know, I think it's all through the view of
- 8:17S8: a broken person. My dad, you know, a broken man.
- 8:21S8: And I guess it would probably be one of the
- 8:23S8: big ones with is, like I said, if God is real,
- 8:25S8: he's not good. Um, so it was probably his goodness. Like,
- 8:29S8: I think even as believers, you know, if you don't
- 8:31S8: go through what I went through, you come out on
- 8:34S8: the other end going, well, I should want what God
- 8:37S8: wants for my life because it's good for him. But
- 8:39S8: it's a bummer for me. But I should want it
- 8:42S8: because he's God, right? That's a lot of our internal theology,
- 8:45S8: whether we know it or not. Um, but once you
- 8:48S8: start to understand that he's the source of goodness, like
- 8:51S8: when Moses went on the mountain, he said, show me
- 8:53S8: your glory. God said, let all my goodness go before you.
- 8:56S8: That's the source of who he is. It's his character, right?
- 8:59S8: It's his nature for sure.
- 9:01S1: Steven McWhirter, our guest right now. Steven, uh, I was
- 9:04S1: a cocaine addict, uh, in my young 20s. And, I mean,
- 9:07S1: it was bad. I mean, chronic nosebleeds. And I'm a
- 9:10S1: type A personality, so I couldn't get enough of the
- 9:12S1: stuff in me, and I was a mess. It's interesting
- 9:18S1: how I think a lot of people look at drugs
- 9:21S1: to Jesus stories and they say, yeah, those who are
- 9:24S1: forgiven much love much. Not recognizing that any person called
- 9:30S1: out of darkness and into the light has been forgiven much.
- 9:33S1: That passage is illuminating those that have a deep appreciation
- 9:37S1: for God to rescue them. And dude, when you're talking
- 9:41S1: years on crystal meth. I tried it one time and
- 9:46S1: it scared me half to death because it was so loaded. What?
- 9:51S1: What was going through your head all those years when
- 9:54S1: you're on that crazy train?
- 9:57S8: Where can I find more? I often say, you know,
- 10:01S8: I think there was just. There was some deep trauma
- 10:03S8: there with my dad and with all the things I
- 10:05S8: was brought up around. If I got still long enough to, like,
- 10:07S8: think about it, I would just instantly be like, well,
- 10:10S8: let's let's get high again or let's run from this again.
- 10:14S8: It was just a blur of me burning my life
- 10:17S8: down around me. But ultimately the Lord knew what he
- 10:20S8: was doing. There were people praying for me, you know, uh, interceding,
- 10:24S8: really believing that God, my mom was one of them. And, uh,
- 10:28S8: somebody gave me that book, uh, case for Christ by
- 10:30S8: Lee Strobel, and I miraculously accepted it, which is amazing
- 10:35S8: because I hated Jesus, hated Christian. So I don't even
- 10:37S8: know how that worked. But it was a blur of, like, whatever.
- 10:41S1: That's the Holy Spirit thing all the way.
- 10:43S8: Right. Yeah. That, to me, is the most miraculous part
- 10:46S8: of my story. But I said to the book three.
- 10:48S8: Fast forward to 3:00 in the morning. I'm literally in
- 10:51S8: a room side table with drugs on it. I'm in bed.
- 10:54S8: I'm reading these book, which is crazy, and there's like,
- 10:57S8: nobody playing music in the corner, right? Creating a spiritual
- 11:01S8: ambience or something. Right. And, uh, it's, you know, but
- 11:04S8: I mean, I knew he was in the room, right? Like,
- 11:07S8: I knew God was in the room, and I was like, okay,
- 11:11S8: I believe this, and I want to give you my
- 11:14S8: life because I believe it's real, but I can't. There's
- 11:19S8: no way I can get quit this. All I've known
- 11:22S8: for so long is this addiction is anger, this depression,
- 11:25S8: this darkness, um, this unforgiveness, right towards other people. And
- 11:30S8: so I was like, God, I want to, but I can't.
- 11:32S8: I just remember this thought that I know wasn't mine.
- 11:34S8: That was, I'm certain, from the Lord. And it was Stephen.
- 11:36S8: You won't do it, I'll do it. And that's I
- 11:38S8: know it now It's Ephesians two eight. You're saved by grace.
- 11:41S8: This isn't something you can boast about. It's a work
- 11:43S8: of God like he does it. But Jesus said, the
- 11:47S8: only work the father asks of you is to believe. Um,
- 11:51S8: that's John 629. And that's what I did. I believed
- 11:55S8: that thought that thing that I thought was from the Lord,
- 11:57S8: and I fell on my knees, gave my life to Jesus.
- 12:00S8: The rest is kind of history. And that was just
- 12:01S8: the beginning. Because, you know, probably the as crazy as
- 12:05S8: it is, many of us are like, man, if I
- 12:06S8: could just be sober and be okay and not burn
- 12:09S8: my life down around me, that would be great. But
- 12:11S8: God's like, that's cool. But I think we could do
- 12:14S8: better than that. So. So here I am. And it
- 12:16S8: even led to this wild restoration story that in this
- 12:21S8: book that's with me and my dad. And that is
- 12:25S8: honestly probably the hardest part of the whole story. You know.
- 12:30S1: You got to give us a taste of that one, bro.
- 12:32S8: After giving my life to Jesus, I was the guy
- 12:35S8: that was like, oh my gosh, it's all real. Like Jesus, Lord,
- 12:39S8: it's all real. Like a crazy person. Right? And I
- 12:42S8: was all in. And so when I read the Bible,
- 12:45S8: I was like, this stuff is real. I want to
- 12:48S8: follow Jesus. And so when Jesus says, you love your enemy,
- 12:52S8: I was like, you know, forgive your enemy. Uh, you
- 12:55S8: forgive those who trespass against you as you forgive those,
- 12:58S8: you know who you've been forgiven. Like all this kind
- 13:01S8: of stuff. And I was like, gosh, well, who's my enemy?
- 13:03S8: And I was like, it's my dad. I mean, there's
- 13:05S8: no greater enemy in my story for me. And, um,
- 13:08S8: so I knew the thing the Lord was telling me
- 13:10S8: call me to do was to forgive my dad, which
- 13:12S8: seemed like the most offensive and horrible and terrible thing ever. Like,
- 13:16S8: if there was anybody I could think of that did
- 13:18S8: not deserve to be forgiven, it was him. And so
- 13:20S8: you understand that this part of my story, I'm in
- 13:22S8: my early 20s when I get saved. At this point,
- 13:25S8: it'd been like about ten years or more since my
- 13:28S8: dad had stopped abusing my mom. Um, that's a long story.
- 13:32S8: That's in the book where we left him in the
- 13:34S8: middle of the night, and my mom came back. I
- 13:36S8: wish she would have left him. I'm not gonna mince
- 13:38S8: words there. And if you're someone hearing this and you're
- 13:41S8: not safe, get safe. But my mom stayed with him. And,
- 13:45S8: you know, here I am at this place where I
- 13:46S8: feel like the Lord's calling me forgiving. So I go
- 13:48S8: to see him. This is not the kind of scene
- 13:50S8: you'd put in a movie. There was nothing like. It
- 13:53S8: was just awkward. I'm like, hey, dad, I want to
- 13:56S8: forgive you about all this stuff, blah, blah, blah. And
- 13:59S8: we just didn't talk about it, right? That's the other thing.
- 14:01S8: You don't talk about it. So the fact that I
- 14:03S8: even brought it up and was like, hey, I want
- 14:05S8: to say, you know, I forgive you. And he just
- 14:07S8: looked at me like a deer in headlights, like reality
- 14:09S8: was cracking around him. And it's like, uh. And I go, okay, cool. Bye.
- 14:14S8: I just get my car and drive off. I mean,
- 14:15S8: like you, there was no beam of light or a
- 14:17S8: bird on my shoulder. It was just awkward. And fast forward,
- 14:21S8: you know, uh, my fiance at the time, who's now
- 14:24S8: my wife, uh, is has been watching me. She's given
- 14:27S8: her life to Jesus, and she's like, hey, I want
- 14:30S8: your dad to baptize us because she knows the story.
- 14:34S8: She sees all.
- 14:34S9: The word.
- 14:35S8: And I'm like, you're insane. Whatever. This I don't know.
- 14:39S8: So we get in this crazy, screaming, cussing match on
- 14:41S8: our way to get baptized, on our way to getting baptized. Right?
- 14:45S8: So we better hurry up, get there. So we knew
- 14:47S8: that something was trying to keep us from it. We
- 14:48S8: get there, we do the baptism. It's beautiful. Uh, my
- 14:53S8: dad that night, my mom tells me later, my dad
- 14:55S8: wept all night over the idea that the Lord might
- 14:57S8: be able to restore all that he had broken. And
- 15:02S8: fast forward a little bit more. My fiance at the
- 15:04S8: time was like, hey, I want your dad to perform
- 15:05S8: our wedding ceremony. Um, at this point, I'm thinking this
- 15:08S8: marriage isn't going to work out. This woman is.
- 15:12S1: Crazy.
- 15:12S8: The worst. But anyways, he does. He performs the wedding ceremony.
- 15:15S8: Absolutely beautiful. Now, was it easy? No. But I knew
- 15:19S8: that the Lord was in it all. Fast forward. My dad.
- 15:21S8: At this point in our story, we're talking right now.
- 15:24S8: The three of us, right? My dad's been passed from
- 15:26S8: cancer for 12 years. We. I was in the hospital
- 15:29S8: room with him, you know, in hospice, and he's in
- 15:31S8: a coma. If you've ever been with somebody in a
- 15:33S8: situation like this, it's very difficult. Um, towards the end
- 15:36S8: of the cancer. And they're unresponsive. They can hear you,
- 15:40S8: they say, but they can't communicate. And people, they'll tell you,
- 15:44S8: you know, hey, look, they're going to hold on and
- 15:46S8: hold on until you tell them it's okay to let go.
- 15:49S8: And normally they will pass not long after that. And
- 15:52S8: so we've been doing this for my dad. And he
- 15:54S8: was like a week or so. And I'm in the
- 15:55S8: room alone with him and I see him struggling to breathe.
- 15:58S8: And I think about Jesus and Peter or Peter goes, hey,
- 16:02S8: how many times should I forgive my enemies? Seven times.
- 16:05S8: And the Lord's like, no, seven times 77. Like, don't
- 16:08S8: even try counting. You just keep doing it. And I'm like, okay.
- 16:12S8: I lean into my dad one last time and I
- 16:15S8: whisper in his ear and I say, dad, I love
- 16:18S8: you and I really do forgive you. It's okay. And
- 16:24S8: he breathed his last breath right in that moment. And
- 16:26S8: his soul left his body. And I knew in that
- 16:30S8: moment guys listen the most like, well, one of the
- 16:35S8: most Jesus like things we can do on this side
- 16:37S8: of eternity is to forgive. It's also the hardest, most
- 16:42S8: offensive thing for us to do because there are some
- 16:45S8: people that were like, oh, I can't forgive them. But forgiveness, man,
- 16:49S8: it's about a debt. A legitimate debt somebody owes you, right?
- 16:54S8: You have the ability to repay that debt up just
- 16:57S8: like Jesus ripped your debt up. Now, that doesn't let
- 17:00S8: the person off the hook. It doesn't mean you're going
- 17:03S8: to still be in relationship with them. That doesn't mean
- 17:06S8: they get access, right? There are consequences to our actions.
- 17:10S8: But there's still grace, right? But there are consequences to
- 17:13S8: our actions now. But I can love them and forgive them.
- 17:17S8: And because otherwise I'm hurting me more than I am them.
- 17:21S8: It's like drinking poison and expecting different results. And, uh,
- 17:25S8: that's probably the craziest thing from my story for me.
- 17:28S8: And it's probably one of the biggest pivotal moments in
- 17:31S8: my whole life, was coming to that conclusion and letting
- 17:34S8: the Lord begin to actually restore the whole part of
- 17:37S8: my story. Because when you get saved and you give
- 17:39S8: your life to Jesus, that's like the beginning.
- 17:42S1: Yes.
- 17:43S8: And he's going to start to hit areas of your
- 17:45S8: life you didn't see coming.
- 17:46S1: Yeah. Let me hit something here real quick. There's someone
- 17:49S1: listening right now who feels like. Ah, glad it worked
- 17:53S1: for him. Won't work for me. Taste and see that
- 17:56S1: the Lord is good. And maybe you need to even
- 17:58S1: take a read on this. Allie's going to have a
- 18:01S1: link here, but wow, what a Freedom Friday story. Allie.
- 18:04S3: Yeah. Steven McWhirter, that's who you're listening to right now.
- 18:07S3: Our special Freedom Friday guest. His book Radically Restored How
- 18:11S3: Knowing Jesus Heals Our Brokenness Takes radical to 800 555 7898.
- 18:19S3: Text radical to 800 555 7898.
- 18:24S1: We're talking discipleship all week long, Ali.
- 18:27S3: And we have a special guest joining us. Give us
- 18:30S3: a global perspective on discipleship, doctor Jared Nelms.
- 18:34S1: Yeah. Hang on. This is Forrest Frank. It's a good day.
- 18:38S7: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl
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- 18:44S1: So here's the deal. You might want to say, man,
- 18:46S1: you guys are hammering discipleship a lot. Let me go
- 18:50S1: to our hallmark passage here to prove why. Here it is.
- 18:55S1: Titus 211 and 12, you might say, oh, I thought
- 18:58S1: you were going to go to second Timothy two two. Yeah,
- 19:00S1: that's that's what we're called to do. But here's the
- 19:02S1: blue sky vision of why to do it. Think about this.
- 19:05S1: I don't know that we've directly said this is grace
- 19:09S1: is a means of discipleship, and it's buried right here
- 19:13S1: in this passage. I don't know if we've gone after
- 19:14S1: it that way, but here it is. For the grace
- 19:17S1: of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people. Comma.
- 19:21S1: Training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions and live self-controlled,
- 19:26S1: upright and godly lives in this present age, waiting for
- 19:29S1: our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our
- 19:33S1: great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Here's what you know
- 19:36S1: what discipleship is. Discipleship is everything after the grace of
- 19:41S1: God saves us. Comma. The grace of God trains us
- 19:45S1: to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, and self-controlled godly lives in
- 19:49S1: this present age. Without discipleship, everything past the Comma Alley
- 19:53S1: ain't happening. Sister.
- 19:54S3: It's a good point, and I love that use of
- 19:56S3: the word training that that that grace, that God's grace
- 20:00S3: that trains us to live godly lives. I mean, that
- 20:05S3: is a process.
- 20:06S1: Yeah. And it's beautiful, doctor Jared Nelms come on, man,
- 20:10S1: give us before we do a full introduction here, give
- 20:12S1: us a vision for why discipleship really does change everything.
- 20:18S1: You've got some stories, right?
- 20:20S10: Yeah, definitely. I think at core to the. The central
- 20:24S10: focus of the Great Commission is to go and make
- 20:26S10: disciples of all nations. And what we're seeing today is
- 20:31S10: people that have been trapped in bondage, locked behind bars, struggling, addicted,
- 20:38S10: experiencing the love and salvation found only in Jesus Christ,
- 20:43S10: and that leading to transformation that not only changes one life,
- 20:48S10: but leads to a ripple effect of changing villages and
- 20:52S10: neighborhoods and communities and ultimately the spreading of the gospel
- 20:56S10: around the world.
- 20:58S3: Our guest this morning, he serves as president and CEO
- 21:00S3: at the Timothy Initiative, where discipleship is absent. What is lost?
- 21:07S1: Whoo! That's a sorry. I'm going to interrupt right there.
- 21:10S1: That's a great question, Ali.
- 21:12S10: I think the the power of the gospel is found in, uh,
- 21:17S10: something that's hard to explain. And I think Jesus was
- 21:22S10: very clear. We have been called to go and make disciples,
- 21:25S10: and he is the one who will build his church.
- 21:28S10: So what is lost is the core of the strategy
- 21:31S10: of God.
- 21:33S1: Wow, that's a powerful statement, Jared. Yeah. You know, it's interesting.
- 21:38S1: I've been wrestling with this ever since I met you
- 21:40S1: and your dad and T.I and been exposed to this.
- 21:44S1: It's so challenging, Jared. And it's so encouraging because I
- 21:49S1: think every person out there, if we go back to
- 21:52S1: Titus two, I hadn't even planned on this. But it's
- 21:54S1: such a passage. I think everyone listening right now, and
- 21:58S1: even those precious folks I met in Kenya, if you
- 22:01S1: if you tell them grace can save you, but it
- 22:05S1: can also train you. That's now the process of discipleship
- 22:09S1: to renounce ungodliness, worldly passions, to live self-controlled, upright and
- 22:13S1: godly lives in this present age. I think everybody out
- 22:17S1: there screams Yes, I want that. And we sell short
- 22:23S1: that potential, don't we, Jared? If we are just preaching
- 22:28S1: salvation to people and not discipleship through God's grace, explain
- 22:32S1: that from your vantage point.
- 22:35S10: Uh, I think it's interesting you started in in Titus,
- 22:38S10: if you continue on to verse 15, there's a really
- 22:43S10: important point that's made there which says encourage the believers
- 22:48S10: to do them. So it's not just about teaching to
- 22:53S10: do these things, but actually following through. And one of
- 22:57S10: the the core elements that we focus on is faithfulness.
- 23:03S10: And the reality is faithfulness is really defined by knowing,
- 23:08S10: doing and training others to do the same. And in
- 23:13S10: the West, in America, we often focus on discipleship as
- 23:18S10: teaching or knowing things about God, and we fail to
- 23:23S10: put them in practice, and even more so fail to
- 23:27S10: train others to do the same. And what Titus 215
- 23:31S10: is saying there is teach these things and encourage the
- 23:35S10: believers to do them.
- 23:36S1: Yeah.
- 23:37S3: Wow. Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a little snapshot of
- 23:40S3: your own, of your own story. How did God capture
- 23:43S3: your heart? Obviously, we know that your dad is rich
- 23:46S3: in faith, pastored for many years. When did God really
- 23:49S3: grab Ahold of you?
- 23:51S10: Yeah, I was in the bush in southern Africa, a
- 23:55S10: country called Zambia. And we were I was with a
- 23:58S10: group of young adults, and we were out showing the
- 24:01S10: Jesus film to a tribe and a village that had
- 24:04S10: never heard the name of Jesus. And I was a
- 24:08S10: bit far from the faith. I was a bit of
- 24:10S10: a prodigal growing up in the church. I knew God
- 24:14S10: was real, but I hadn't really had a relationship with him.
- 24:18S10: And as the team was showing the Jesus film, God
- 24:22S10: spoke to me in that moment and in my faith
- 24:25S10: became more real than it had ever been. And since
- 24:29S10: that moment, I've wanted nothing more to do than to
- 24:32S10: be used by God.
- 24:34S1: Jared. That's a beautiful story, dude. Jared is, um, he's
- 24:39S1: a tall guy. When I first met him, I thought
- 24:41S1: it reminds me of my son. He's up there. He's
- 24:44S1: up there, man. Um, but a great heart. And that
- 24:49S1: heart has led to leadership of team. And we're going
- 24:51S1: to have a couple of days here in April, guys,
- 24:54S1: that we're going to jump in and watch God do
- 24:56S1: something amazing here. We're going to we're going to get
- 24:58S1: behind T. Isn't that going to be cool? Yes. But
- 25:02S1: coming up here um, after a couple of minutes here,
- 25:05S1: Jared I want to get after something that it's hard
- 25:09S1: to hear it, but I think we look at discipleship
- 25:13S1: and we we want to lower the bar so that
- 25:17S1: we can get more and more people over it, meaning
- 25:20S1: less commitment and not so much time, you know, how
- 25:23S1: can we what's the minimum viable product we've got to
- 25:26S1: do to get people kind of down the path? And
- 25:30S1: then I go to Kenya and I'm meeting these guys
- 25:32S1: and gals and I'm going, uh oh, they're spending five,
- 25:37S1: six hours a week pouring through the word of God,
- 25:41S1: getting coached, mentored, discipled. So we're going to get some
- 25:45S1: facts and figures. We're going to get really honest about
- 25:47S1: this because, you know, training, which is what we find
- 25:51S1: in Titus two. Ali. It implies some kind of sweat
- 25:54S1: equity here. Right? A little bit a little bit. We'll
- 25:57S1: break it down Jared. Now special guest straight ahead.
- 26:01S7: A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is
- 26:05S7: in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 26:09S1: Yeah, what a week. I'm bummed that it's ending, actually.
- 26:12S1: Freedom Friday. Yeah. All right. We got to get to
- 26:15S1: a weekend, but we're gonna. We're gonna juice this for
- 26:18S1: all it's got. Jared nelms, doctor Jared Nelms, our guest
- 26:21S1: right now. He's the president and CEO of the Timothy Initiative.
- 26:25S1: More on the details of that and how we can
- 26:28S1: partner with them. That's coming up in April. But I
- 26:31S1: gotta tell you, Jared, I was so I'm still so
- 26:34S1: inspired by not only your work, but the work of
- 26:37S1: God's grace and mercy and the movement of the spirit
- 26:41S1: in different regions of the world where you're working, especially
- 26:43S1: where I was at in the northern kind of shores
- 26:46S1: of Kenya, man. Amazing. But here's the thing that stuck
- 26:51S1: with me, and that is we were, I think, out
- 26:55S1: of a good intention. We've many pastors, leaders, parents, you
- 27:01S1: name it. The kind of the ecosystem of discipleship in
- 27:04S1: America is we try to get everybody into the hoop
- 27:09S1: and wharf of discipleship. So we have a class or
- 27:11S1: we have a, we have a a preaching series and
- 27:14S1: then we're we're kind of done. All right now we're
- 27:16S1: all disciples. Discipleship, brother. It's work isn't it? And speak
- 27:22S1: to that for a second.
- 27:23S10: Yeah, I think there's what you're honing in on is
- 27:27S10: there's a, a constant pull to shape Christianity after our
- 27:33S10: own desires instead of God's. And somehow, unintentionally, I think
- 27:39S10: we have taken Jesus's command of take up your cross
- 27:45S10: and follow me. And we've somehow turned that into give
- 27:50S10: me your life, and I will make all your dreams
- 27:52S10: come true. And the reality is, the promise is that
- 27:56S10: you get God. Not all of your dreams come true.
- 27:59S10: And that is so much more valuable than having having
- 28:03S10: a relationship with God. So I think the gospel in
- 28:07S10: grace is not opposed to effort, it's opposed to earning.
- 28:12S10: We don't earn any righteousness with God. He gives that
- 28:15S10: by grace we are saved through faith. However, the gospel
- 28:19S10: is not opposed to effort. Jesus said, take up your
- 28:23S10: cross and follow me.
- 28:24S3: Doctor Jared Nelms from the Timothy Initiative with us this morning.
- 28:28S3: Let's talk about the effort aspect of it. When you
- 28:31S3: approach discipleship with the model that Ty has laid out globally,
- 28:35S3: what does that look like practically? Talk a little bit
- 28:38S3: about the training that goes into discipleship.
- 28:43S10: Yeah, it's it's really based on a simple idea of
- 28:47S10: just just imagine a three legged stool in your mind. Uh,
- 28:52S10: it's easy to understand. Each of the legs of the
- 28:55S10: stool represent three aspects of what it means to be
- 28:59S10: a faithful disciple of Jesus. Knowing, doing, and sharing. So
- 29:06S10: knowing is what does the Bible say? What does Jesus
- 29:09S10: call us to do? Jesus said, if you love me,
- 29:12S10: you will obey my commands. So to to obey his commands,
- 29:16S10: we first have to know what they are. Secondly is
- 29:19S10: the doing. We move from knowledge in our head to
- 29:23S10: action in our hands and our feet. Obviously, this is
- 29:28S10: based on a love in Christ Jesus. Obviously says to
- 29:33S10: abide in his love and as a result of that
- 29:36S10: we will go and bear fruit. So we know and
- 29:40S10: we do. However, discipleship is not just about me. Jesus
- 29:45S10: has empowered us and sent us to go and proclaim
- 29:48S10: the gospel to the world. So everything that I know,
- 29:51S10: everything I'm doing in obedience to Christ, I'm also called
- 29:56S10: to share that with other people so that they can
- 29:59S10: know so that they can do and they can share
- 30:01S10: with others also.
- 30:02S1: Okay. This is one of the coolest, simple little three
- 30:06S1: legged illustrations I've ever heard, isn't it, Ali?
- 30:08S3: Very much so.
- 30:09S1: Okay, so here's where we're stuck, Jared and and I,
- 30:13S1: I think you would being raised in America, you would
- 30:16S1: get this. We are basically hung up on that first leg.
- 30:20S1: We're good on preaching and helping people, knowing that next
- 30:24S1: step of doing we're struggling. But there's there's been a
- 30:28S1: resurgence of this. But here's what's interesting. That sharing piece
- 30:32S1: that's a huge deal. And here's what's wild, Jared. And
- 30:36S1: I'm just I just want a mosh pit with you
- 30:39S1: guys for a second here. Here's what's wild. Here's what's wild.
- 30:42S1: Brain scientists know that the greatest thing we can do
- 30:47S1: is get out of ourselves if we're in a funk.
- 30:50S1: Isn't that wild? So this just is this. This three
- 30:56S1: legged stool. When I'm. I'm at this baptism broadcasting live
- 30:59S1: from there in Kenya, 50 folks getting baptized, and I
- 31:03S1: was broadcasting live. I look across the back row of
- 31:06S1: these guys and usually the back row of guys, they're
- 31:09S1: the ones that are screwing around in America, right? The
- 31:11S1: back row, these guys, these are young men there in
- 31:14S1: the back row. Why? Because they can get more focused intent.
- 31:18S1: Their faces look like we're in this thing. I mean,
- 31:22S1: the earnestness was huge. So I think for all of
- 31:26S1: us here, we know knowing we know doing champion the
- 31:30S1: sharing and how you've seen that impact the practical lives
- 31:34S1: of people that you minister to around the globe.
- 31:37S10: I think as as we see the hand of God
- 31:41S10: and the work of God in our midst, it's really
- 31:45S10: hard when you find this treasure, this thing that transforms
- 31:52S10: your life, this thing that has changed your perspective and
- 31:57S10: ultimately your eternity. How can you not want to share
- 32:01S10: that with other people. And when you're dealing with people
- 32:04S10: that are coming from, uh, darkness, living in context of
- 32:09S10: foreign religions and worshiping gods and having no hope and
- 32:14S10: living in darkness, once you see the light, once you
- 32:17S10: receive Jesus, how can I not share that with my
- 32:20S10: brothers and sisters? So when you when you reach people
- 32:24S10: in that place, they can't help but tell other people.
- 32:28S1: Yeah.
- 32:29S3: Doctor Jared Nelms, give us a story to to close
- 32:33S3: us out here as you've been doing this work, overseeing
- 32:36S3: this ministry. Give us a story that you've seen recently
- 32:39S3: that really encouraged you.
- 32:41S10: Yeah, this this story just came in a few months
- 32:44S10: back in Southeast Asia in a, in a Buddhist context.
- 32:48S10: There was a young man, uh, that struggled with, uh,
- 32:52S10: some sort of depression or mental instability, and they took
- 32:56S10: him to doctors. They took him to which doctors and healers.
- 33:00S10: Everything they tried couldn't work and ultimately they ended up.
- 33:05S10: The only solution was to build a cage and to
- 33:09S10: put him inside. And so for 21 years, this man
- 33:14S10: lived inside a cage, struggling, desperate. His his mother sought
- 33:19S10: every possible solution. Until one day they heard about an
- 33:24S10: average ordinary believer who prayed in the name of Jesus
- 33:30S10: and things changed. So they asked this young guy to
- 33:34S10: come over. Could you pray for this guy that's been
- 33:37S10: in the cage? The man in the cage? So he said, sure,
- 33:39S10: I would love to. Long story short, he goes to
- 33:42S10: the village. He finds the man in the cage desperate.
- 33:46S10: The man doesn't really react until he starts praying in
- 33:49S10: the name of Jesus. And the man starts listening. The
- 33:52S10: man prays for him. He is delivered. He's ultimately taken
- 33:56S10: out of the cage He has received Christ. He's been
- 34:00S10: baptized and now he is a disciple that is going
- 34:02S10: and making disciples in all the surrounding villages.
- 34:05S9: Wow.
- 34:06S1: Okay, okay. We can shut the show down today.
- 34:12S11: It's incredible what God's doing.
- 34:14S1: Oh, Jared, that's like walking streets with Jesus type story
- 34:19S1: right there. Ali.
- 34:20S3: Yeah. Man, that is so encouraging.
- 34:24S1: Okay, let's point people to him. They can at least
- 34:27S1: learn more. Hold on to your shekels. We're going to
- 34:29S1: have a party in here for 48 hours down the
- 34:31S1: road in April. But my goodness, Ali, uh, how can
- 34:35S1: folks find out more about TT?
- 34:36S3: You can text disciple to 800 555 7898. Autocorrect should
- 34:42S3: help you out on this one. Text disciple to 800
- 34:46S3: 555 7898.
- 34:49S7: Standing on the rock. Each and every day you're listening
- 34:53S7: to Carl and crew.
- 34:55S1: Oh my goodness. I am just so pumped about today
- 34:58S1: that last story. I'm still living in the fumes of
- 35:00S1: it right now.
- 35:01S3: The story that Doctor Jared Nelms shared with us. Yeah,
- 35:05S3: I mean, you you picture 21 years living in a cage.
- 35:09S1: In a cage because he's demonized. What? Call it what
- 35:13S1: you will, as Jared said on In Bondage someway, somehow.
- 35:17S1: But you have to say that that's demonic because he
- 35:20S1: hears the name of Jesus. The minute Jesus was spoken
- 35:23S1: over this guy, he opens his heart to hear hear
- 35:26S1: the gospel that is out of the cage into Christ.
- 35:32S1: Baptized now going around community, sharing the love of Jesus Christ.
- 35:37S3: It's beautiful.
- 35:38S9: Oh my goodness.
- 35:42S1: That boom crew. I just need you to know the
- 35:46S1: gospel changes everything. You might be going through something today
- 35:51S1: and you're like, I don't know who's got this. The
- 35:56S1: same God who made mud patties put them on ice.
- 36:01S1: Who declared, get off that pallet and walk. Take it up.
- 36:06S1: The same God who looked at a thief on the
- 36:08S1: cross and said, today you will be with me in Paradise.
- 36:13S1: That God of the 11th hour, that God of the impossible,
- 36:18S1: that God of the improbable, is the God who loves
- 36:22S1: you today. Give your life to him, number one. Number two,
- 36:26S1: do what he tells you to do. And number three,
- 36:30S1: give it away. Because there's people in cages today all
- 36:34S1: around us who need to be set free. Man. It's
- 36:44S1: just an awesome thing to know Jesus Christ. Isn't it Ali?
- 36:47S3: It is. I mean, when you think about the the
- 36:51S3: back to the cage thing. I mean, physically caged for
- 36:54S3: for 21 years is so hard to imagine.
- 36:58S1: It's hard to get your head.
- 36:59S3: But at the same time, many people have been in
- 37:02S3: bondage in some way for many years, even if not physically, emotionally, spiritually.
- 37:07S3: There's so many things that can hold you captive to
- 37:11S3: where you don't. You feel. You don't feel any more
- 37:13S3: free than somebody living in a cage.
- 37:15S1: So true, so true. Well, we're championing discipleship all week long.
- 37:22S1: So we got a practical question. And this isn't for everyone,
- 37:25S1: but it might be for you.
- 37:27S3: Yeah. We're asking you more than just sharing their faith.
- 37:31S3: Someone showed you or maybe is showing you currently what
- 37:36S3: it looks like to walk like Jesus. Who was it?
- 37:39S3: Who was it for you? Who has shown you how
- 37:43S3: to walk like Jesus? 805 55 7898. Celebrating discipleship on
- 37:49S3: this Freedom Friday. Taking your calls 805 55 7898.
- 37:55S7: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
- 37:59S7: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew
- 38:03S7: on Moody Radio.
- 38:05S1: Got a question for you, Ali. Take it away.
- 38:07S3: We're talking about discipleship this week, so we're asking you
- 38:09S3: more than just sharing their faith. Who showed you what
- 38:13S3: it looked like to walk with Jesus? 805 55 7898.
- 38:19S3: Let's kick it off with Tyler calling in this morning
- 38:21S3: from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Tyler, who showed you what it looked like?
- 38:27S12: Yes. So when I was going to college at Mississippi
- 38:30S12: State University, I heard there was a guy discipling people
- 38:33S12: at the coffee house. I saw him there, sitting across
- 38:36S12: the table from another student teaching him the Bible. And
- 38:39S12: I said, hey, can I meet with you? I heard
- 38:40S12: you were Randy, the guy teaching the Bible, right? He said, yeah.
- 38:43S12: And and he he met with me. And the first
- 38:45S12: thing he said to me, he said, you know why
- 38:47S12: I do this, Tyler? And he pulled up. second Timothy
- 38:49S12: two two and said, A man was faithful to teach me,
- 38:53S12: and I want to share it with you.
- 38:55S1: Boom, brother Randy Phillips.
- 38:57S3: That's awesome.
- 38:59S1: Oh, way to go, Tyler. Wow. Okay, that proves it
- 39:02S1: right there. Well, that was worth it all.
- 39:04S3: I love it.
- 39:05S1: Seth. First time caller. Uh, Bedford, Indiana. What do you say?
- 39:10S13: Yes, Mark. Uh, I have somebody that I went to
- 39:13S13: church with for about 2 or 3 weeks, and, and
- 39:16S13: he said that he saw something in me, and he
- 39:19S13: grabbed me to the side and started mentoring to me.
- 39:23S13: And I started going to weekly class with him. And
- 39:26S13: he taught me that waking up every morning, reading the
- 39:29S13: Bible or listening to the scripture or listen to songs
- 39:33S13: just fills your cup and I tell you it does.
- 39:36S13: It has done that so much for me. I just
- 39:38S13: want to give a shout out to Mark Blake. He
- 39:41S13: has been such a Bible thumper for me. He's been
- 39:45S13: really helping me out.
- 39:46S1: Yeah, Bible thumping gets a bad rap. Because you know what?
- 39:49S1: You need to thump a Bible. You gotta thump it.
- 39:52S1: Way to go, Seth. Boom, brother. Uh, taking your calls.
- 39:56S1: 800 555. 78. 98. More than just sharing their faith.
- 40:01S1: Who showed you how to walk like Jesus? It's called
- 40:04S1: disciple making. Let's get one more in here. Ally.
- 40:07S3: Amanda. First time caller from Chattanooga, Tennessee. Well represented this morning.
- 40:11S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to
- 40:14S3: walk like Jesus?
- 40:17S14: Yes. My mother has always just been such an inspiring, um, like.
- 40:25S14: And she is battling stage four cancer and throughout throughout
- 40:30S14: her whole for the last six years, while she's been battling, um,
- 40:35S14: her cancer journey, she has always just kept a consistent
- 40:39S14: joy and said that nothing could fill her joy. And, um,
- 40:44S14: she just walks Walks with Jesus daily and she's a
- 40:47S14: true inspiration. Way to go. Four of her children and
- 40:51S14: her 14 grandchildren.
- 40:53S2: Boom!
- 40:55S1: Having a mom like that who's not just a great mama,
- 40:58S1: but she's a disciple. And mama. That's huge. Sister boom.
- 41:03S1: Taking your calls right now.
- 41:05S3: More than just sharing their faith. Who was it? Who
- 41:08S3: showed you or is showing you how to walk like Jesus?
- 41:12S3: 855 five 7898 Freedom Friday taking your calls 800 555 7898.
- 41:21S7: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.
- 41:24S1: God longs for us today to seek him and ask
- 41:28S1: him to move in ways that we never could.
- 41:30S7: You're listening to Carl and crew.
- 41:33S1: Yeah. And you, the boom crew are showing up. Showing out. Man.
- 41:37S1: God is on the move in lives.
- 41:39S3: Ali, we're asking you on this Freedom Friday. Who was it?
- 41:43S3: Who's showing you or has shown you what it looks
- 41:45S3: like to walk with Jesus. Let's go to Eric calling
- 41:49S3: this morning from Clay center, Kansas. Tell us, who was it?
- 41:54S15: Oh, gosh, I was hoping I wouldn't do this.
- 41:57S3: Oh. It's okay.
- 41:58S15: Oh. Forgive me.
- 41:59S16: It's all right. No, no, dude.
- 42:00S1: Men. Men cry. As a matter of fact, let me
- 42:03S1: just tell you right now, you're getting the Carl and
- 42:05S1: Crew prize pack because you cry. So now, don't be
- 42:10S1: coming in here with fake tears. All right, go ahead.
- 42:12S15: No. I'm not. Oh, man. Uh, I'm 71 years old,
- 42:17S15: and in 1974, I was 26 years old. I gave
- 42:22S15: my life to Christ. And shortly after that, it was
- 42:25S15: a lay witness mission at our Methodist church. The kids
- 42:29S15: that came, I called ourselves kids at that time. They said,
- 42:32S15: you've got to come with us to our youth group
- 42:34S15: meeting in Abilene, Kansas, this rancher. But he he puts
- 42:39S15: on these youth retreats through him. He had his basement
- 42:44S15: full of kids in the evening. Two evenings a week.
- 42:47S15: Then later on, I was introduced to John Balderston, and
- 42:51S15: at that time he was a 7576 year old bus
- 42:55S15: driver slash mechanic in a small school district. Him and
- 42:59S15: grandma traveled and put on youth retreats at different churches
- 43:04S15: for two days, and it was, oh, I learned so
- 43:09S15: much from him. I miss him so much, but I'm missing.
- 43:13S15: I know where he's at. But when I say I
- 43:16S15: miss him, I miss his encouragement and his teaching of
- 43:20S15: just his and his. I got my tears from him
- 43:24S15: because he would cry buckets. But anyway, thank you for
- 43:27S15: the time.
- 43:27S1: But Eric, you're a good man, 71 years old, and
- 43:31S1: you can look back and you can point to a
- 43:33S1: time in a basement, in a house, two nights a
- 43:35S1: week and encouragement along the way. That is discipleship, and
- 43:39S1: we all need it in. The tears are flowing all
- 43:42S1: these years later. Ali.
- 43:43S3: It's so encouraging to hear these different like discipleship can
- 43:47S3: look different, right? It's the basement of someone's home who's
- 43:52S3: agreed to take on some kids. What did it look
- 43:55S3: like for you, Sheri? First time caller from Lebanon, Indiana.
- 43:59S3: Tell us, who was it who showed you how to
- 44:01S3: walk with Jesus?
- 44:03S14: It was my brother, my brother Dave. And he is
- 44:06S14: just an awesome Christian man. He never miss an opportunity
- 44:09S14: to pray. And right now he is in South Sudan
- 44:11S14: working in an orphanage. Uh, that he has been, uh,
- 44:15S14: been so effective with. And he's just my inspiration. And
- 44:19S14: just every time we're together, it's just about the Lord.
- 44:23S14: And I love him so much. He's been an inspiration.
- 44:26S1: Well, how about you? Is he an older brother?
- 44:29S14: He is a younger brother. He's my baby brother.
- 44:32S1: Oh my word, baby brother. Taking the discipleship to the fam.
- 44:37S1: That's awesome. How about that Sherry?
- 44:39S3: That's beautiful.
- 44:40S14: Yeah. He's awesome. I love him, and I love the Lord. And.
- 44:44S14: And we both just grow together. It's just so wonderful. Uh,
- 44:47S14: discipleship is amazing.
- 44:49S1: Yeah. I guarantee you, Eric, if your brother. If he
- 44:53S1: could get on here right now, he'd be saying, oh, no,
- 44:55S1: my big sister. She's the inspiration in my life. It
- 44:58S1: works both ways.
- 44:59S2: Yeah. It does.
- 45:00S3: Sherry, thank you so much. First time caller from Indiana.
- 45:03S3: Really appreciate that story.
- 45:05S1: Uh.
- 45:05S2: You know, I was thinking, as we're talking about this
- 45:08S2: when I was, uh, young in in the faith, the
- 45:11S2: genuine faith, uh, you know, because when I was away
- 45:14S2: from God, I believed in him, but I didn't have
- 45:16S2: any desire to follow him. And so I didn't want
- 45:18S2: to do anything. And when I came to faith, I
- 45:20S2: kind of swung to the other side of the pendulum
- 45:22S2: where I wanted to follow him so much. But I
- 45:25S2: was also kind of being legalistic and very worried about it,
- 45:28S2: that I was still kind of earning a place with God.
- 45:31S2: And and when I messed up that it just was
- 45:33S2: it was the most devastating kind of uncomfortable thing. M
- 45:38S2: and a man named Doug discipled me, and he really
- 45:40S2: taught me about about the the now and not yet
- 45:44S2: where it's like, you know, I am forgiven. And yes,
- 45:46S2: I still do make mistakes, but I'm forgiven. And when
- 45:49S2: I pray and I talk to God about my mistakes,
- 45:51S2: I am forgiven. And he said to me, this thing.
- 45:54S2: He said, yes, pray to God for forgiveness. And he said,
- 45:57S2: but also once you pray and ask for forgiveness, thank
- 46:00S2: him that you are forgiven, because that's how true and
- 46:03S2: how immediate it is. You don't have to earn your
- 46:05S2: place back with him, you just gives it to you.
- 46:08S2: That was so helpful for me.
- 46:10S1: Yeah, that's such a beautiful thing because there's a lot
- 46:13S1: of people that get paralyzed with, uh. It's the paralysis
- 46:17S1: of overanalysis. You know what I'm saying?
- 46:19S2: Oh, my gosh, it's so true. It's so true.
- 46:22S1: Yeah, man, what a beautiful thing. Oh my word. What
- 46:26S1: a what a week, Ali.
- 46:27S3: Yeah. You know, just an encouragement. If there's someone in
- 46:29S3: your life, even if you didn't call in, but someone
- 46:31S3: in your life who really has modeled walking like Jesus
- 46:35S3: for you. Send him a text or pick up the
- 46:37S3: phone or write a letter. Or you know, and maybe,
- 46:41S3: you know, if they're not, if they're no longer with us,
- 46:43S3: they're on to their reward. Thank God for them today.
- 46:47S1: A men and let it be. Oh my goodness, I'm
- 46:52S1: going to spontaneously combust. It's like wow, freedom Friday guys.
- 46:58S1: Walk in that freedom and share it. Give it away.
- 47:02S7: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
- 47:06S7: and crew.
- 47:07S1: I can only imagine. Is a phrase that has been used.
- 47:10S1: For how many years would you say?
- 47:13S2: I can only imagine. For how long?
- 47:17S4: Really?
- 47:18S1: That's not fair, man. That's not fair. That's not right.
- 47:22S2: I don't know about long time.
- 47:23S1: What about. I can only imagine two that hasn't been
- 47:26S1: said very often.
- 47:28S2: No, no, no, not very often. Especially when it's the
- 47:31S2: number two and not to.
- 47:33S17: True, but the original song 1999.
- 47:36S1: 1999.
- 47:37S3: That song was such a classic.
- 47:40S17: I mean, mainstream into the early 2000. It stayed on
- 47:43S17: the charts.
- 47:44S2: I was three.
- 47:47S1: Oh my goodness.
- 47:50S3: The cool thing about that song is it became a
- 47:52S3: crossover classic.
- 47:54S17: Did it? That's what I'm saying. 1999 it was released,
- 47:57S17: but by the early 2000 it was mainstream all the way.
- 48:00S2: I didn't know.
- 48:00S17: That the the movie, the first movie did not come
- 48:03S17: out until 2018, but that song has stayed the course.
- 48:08S2: Yeah. That's awesome.
- 48:08S1: It's got staying power. Well, who in the world is
- 48:12S1: featured in this second release of I Can Only Imagine.
- 48:17S3: Not the song, but the movie.
- 48:19S1: The movie. I can only imagine. Two. Who in the
- 48:22S1: world is it? We gotta find this guy. Could somebody.
- 48:24S1: Could somebody find him for us?
- 48:26S2: Oh, look at that, I found him.
- 48:27S17: I'm on it.
- 48:28S1: Okay. Okay. Excellent. Thank you. guys. You guys are on it. Ali,
- 48:32S1: set it up, sister.
- 48:33S3: Yeah, we've got Tim Timmons joining us coming up today.
- 48:37S3: The released the movie I Can Only Imagine to it
- 48:40S3: explores the personal, heartfelt story behind the hit song that's
- 48:45S3: coming up here on Karl and crew.
- 48:47S7: He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you
- 48:50S7: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's
- 48:54S7: Karl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 48:57S3: Well, how about heading to the theater this weekend? That
- 49:00S3: lots of movies you could see. But there's one that
- 49:03S3: probably is going to stand out. Man. A Christian movie
- 49:06S3: on the big screen, I can only imagine. Two out
- 49:09S3: Today explores the personal, heartfelt story behind 2017 hit song
- 49:15S3: called Even If We have Tim Timmons, singer songwriter with us,
- 49:19S3: who spent over two decades in ministry writing songs both
- 49:23S3: from his personal experience. Talk about what it was like
- 49:27S3: to see your story on the big screen in this movie.
- 49:30S3: I can only imagine too.
- 49:32S18: Yeah, well, apparently I'm really good looking. I mean, when
- 49:35S18: you just see who plays me, it's like I'm. I'm
- 49:38S18: better than I thought. I keep telling my wife, um, no,
- 49:42S18: it is. It has been such a huge honor. I mean,
- 49:45S18: I don't take myself that serious. I take Jesus real serious,
- 49:48S18: but not myself. And so it's just kind of it's
- 49:50S18: fun to watch. And Milo has just become really close friends.
- 49:54S18: So just watching my friend play me. But I think
- 49:56S18: there's a piece of it, you know, watching with my
- 49:58S18: cancer journey that I really like found compassion and empathy
- 50:01S18: for myself. It's like, I wish everybody could just sit
- 50:04S18: and watch their life.
- 50:05S16: Story.
- 50:05S18: Outside of themselves, right? I mean, like, what a gift
- 50:08S18: that is. That's been really special.
- 50:10S1: Tim, let's back up a little bit because we can
- 50:12S1: do something here that the movie can't actually maybe drill
- 50:15S1: down on. But what was it like when you first
- 50:17S1: got the word man that you were big time afflicted here?
- 50:21S1: What flashed through your brain?
- 50:23S18: Yeah. I mean, they gave me five years to live
- 50:26S18: 25 years ago. Um, and there's still tumors on my
- 50:29S18: liver today wearing out my heart. They say. I think
- 50:33S18: when I first found out, uh, it was just shock. And,
- 50:37S18: you know, everybody goes through their own process, and that's
- 50:40S18: that's a whole nother book that I'll write of just
- 50:42S18: trying to help people in the beginning of their process,
- 50:44S18: of their stages of grief. But I think the greatest
- 50:48S18: gift of sorrow and calamity and whatever things that we're
- 50:53S18: going through is sobriety. I mean, it's perspective. It's like,
- 50:57S18: you know, not necessarily alcohol and drugs. Maybe that's what
- 50:59S18: it is, but it's sobriety. And just in today, like
- 51:02S18: I woke up again today and I write this X
- 51:05S18: and I've written it for so many years on my wrist.
- 51:07S18: That's a really big part of this movie that comes
- 51:10S18: out today. So people go see it. The X that
- 51:12S18: I write on my wrist stood for the Christ, and
- 51:14S18: it was just my reminder of like, Jesus, you woke
- 51:16S18: me up again today. I want to be sober today
- 51:20S18: like I want to. I want to practice what you
- 51:22S18: want to practice. I want to join you in what
- 51:24S18: you're doing. So it has really changed my life. And
- 51:29S18: even still, having this diagnosis and tumors in my body,
- 51:32S18: it's like, okay, who knows? Who knows if I get
- 51:35S18: tomorrow and if I do, then I will wake up
- 51:38S18: and join Jesus again. So that's what's been such a
- 51:40S18: great gift of cancer. I hate cancer, but that's been
- 51:43S18: a gift that God has brought through it.
- 51:45S3: Now that song, even if by Mercy Me, which inspired
- 51:48S3: the movie, I can only imagine too, that you wrote
- 51:51S3: this song. You said you create what you call prayers
- 51:55S3: set to music. Talk a little bit about what it's what.
- 51:58S3: It's like writing songs from a place of of pain,
- 52:01S3: but also deep faith in Christ.
- 52:04S18: Yeah, I mean, everybody who's listening. You have a gift.
- 52:07S18: There's something in our gifts are not for us. Right?
- 52:10S18: Everybody like like my my songwriting. If it's for me,
- 52:15S18: then I'm just. I'm not even seeing the kingdom of God.
- 52:17S18: I'm seeing the kingdom of Tim. And so one of
- 52:19S18: the gifts that I have is I get to write
- 52:21S18: my prayers, and I, I put them to songs. And now,
- 52:26S18: you know, millions of people get to pray those prayers
- 52:28S18: with me. So I get to help Jesus. People pray
- 52:31S18: all week long. And really, that's what I'm doing. And
- 52:35S18: I don't really care about writing more Christian music. I
- 52:37S18: don't know how much more of that we need, but
- 52:38S18: like prayers that help us follow and join Jesus. I'm
- 52:41S18: totally in. So that's what I get to do. And
- 52:44S18: that's why I write all that I write.
- 52:46S1: I got a lot of questions that are cropping up here,
- 52:48S1: but a low hanging fruit. One is what do people
- 52:52S1: need to know about talking? First words out of their
- 52:56S1: mouth when they got a friend that's come down with
- 52:59S1: some kind of debilitating disease, or a prognosis that is
- 53:03S1: bad news, man. What do they need to do? We
- 53:05S1: know that what they shouldn't do is slap Bible verses.
- 53:08S1: We get that. But what do they need to do?
- 53:11S18: I don't fully know. Everybody's so different, right? I've got
- 53:13S18: a few friends that are in the middle of it
- 53:15S18: right now, some of my best friends. But I think
- 53:18S18: Jesus people have been traditionally really bad at grief like
- 53:22S18: we wallpaper over grief like nobody's business. Because what we
- 53:26S18: say is life's really hard. But you know what? God's good.
- 53:30S18: And we put that butt word right in there. And
- 53:33S18: I'm not a big fan of the butt word. I
- 53:35S18: think the word and is way more helpful. Yes. So hard.
- 53:40S18: And God is good. And what if these two can,
- 53:43S18: like grief and gratitude, live in the same space? I mean,
- 53:47S18: Jesus held that that tension all the time, and yet
- 53:50S18: we kind of just wallpaper over it and we're like,
- 53:52S18: you know, that's why we slap Bible verses is we're like,
- 53:54S18: you know, it's going to be okay and or God's
- 53:56S18: going to do it. It's like, great, I love faith,
- 53:58S18: I can have faith and be sad, you know, like, yeah,
- 54:02S18: these don't have to be exclusive. So for me, when
- 54:05S18: I'm with somebody, often I'm just I practice just being
- 54:08S18: sad with them. Like, I just say, I'm so sorry.
- 54:12S18: And I'm just. I'm for you. Like, that's all sometimes
- 54:15S18: people really need. And the Bible verses, God can do that.
- 54:18S18: And later, when it's right, when Jesus opens that door,
- 54:20S18: then that's the time to do that. But you know,
- 54:22S18: there's a sitting. Shiva is the Hebrews would use this
- 54:26S18: this concept in the early Bible times of sitting Shiva.
- 54:30S18: And when somebody was grieving, they would just do whatever
- 54:32S18: that person did. If that person needed to eat, they
- 54:35S18: would eat with them. If they needed to cry, they
- 54:37S18: would all cry with them. If they needed to jump
- 54:38S18: up and dance, they would dance with them. So if
- 54:41S18: Jesus people can be better at just joining Jesus in
- 54:43S18: each other's grief, I think we'd have a much healthier community.
- 54:47S3: Okay, so the movie I can only imagine to an
- 54:51S3: all star cast, if you if you saw the first,
- 54:53S3: I can only imagine, uh, and this one is going
- 54:56S3: to be just as entertaining. Dennis Quaid and then you
- 54:59S3: mentioned Milo Ventimiglia, who many people will know from This
- 55:03S3: Is Us, his fame, their.
- 55:06S18: Gilmore Girls, all.
- 55:07S16: These things. Yeah, man. He's he's a total stud.
- 55:10S3: And he plays you. So just from the pure entertainment value,
- 55:14S3: you go and watch a movie. You want to. You
- 55:17S3: want to feel something, but you also want to just
- 55:19S3: enjoy those two hours. This is an entertaining movie, right?
- 55:23S18: It is. I think you will laugh a whole bunch
- 55:26S18: people and then you'll probably cry a whole bunch. It's
- 55:29S18: I'm so proud of this movie and what it's actually doing.
- 55:32S18: And for people to see it in a theater, there's
- 55:34S18: something really special about people not feeling alone. There's so
- 55:39S18: many times when we feel alone, but I think this movie,
- 55:41S18: even by the end, we get to do some things
- 55:43S18: like collectively as a whole theater. So I would encourage
- 55:46S18: you to go see it, you know, in theaters, because
- 55:48S18: it's actually really special to do something like this and
- 55:51S18: be a part of the church together.
- 55:53S16: You, Tim.
- 55:54S1: You said a hook right there, right at the end
- 55:56S1: of that thing.
- 55:57S16: Yeah. We're doing something. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
- 55:59S18: It's true, but it's like there's something so special. And
- 56:02S18: at the end, there's something. You guys may not have
- 56:04S18: seen it yet, but there's something at the end that's
- 56:06S18: really special for people, like for the whole, for the
- 56:09S18: whole cinema to do together. It's actually it's really, really beautiful.
- 56:13S18: So yeah, you know.
- 56:15S1: I want to tell you something. I was around Tim
- 56:17S1: briefly when I was teaching a bit at a little
- 56:21S1: church called Mariners Church, and Tim Timmons was leading worship.
- 56:24S1: And you know what, bro? I want to tell you something.
- 56:27S1: You impacted thousands of people there who would have thunk
- 56:31S1: what happened?
- 56:32S18: Happened, right?
- 56:33S16: Huh?
- 56:33S18: Right. I mean, yeah, yeah. I quit working for God
- 56:37S18: 15 years ago. I quit working for him. I've worked
- 56:39S18: for him my whole life, and it, uh, it was exhausting,
- 56:43S18: so I quit. I turned in my papers and everything,
- 56:45S18: and I just said, Jesus for the rest of my days.
- 56:47S18: I will never work for you again, but I will
- 56:49S18: join you in anything that you're doing. So if you
- 56:51S18: want to open up doors that are best for your kingdom,
- 56:53S18: I will walk through that. If I'm just supposed to
- 56:55S18: work at Starbucks, which is amazing, then I'll work at
- 56:57S18: Starbucks and I'll join you there. So that's really my
- 57:00S18: favorite part of this movie coming out. It's like I
- 57:02S18: didn't open any doors. Jesus keeps opening doors. What's best
- 57:05S18: for his kingdom, not mine. So that's like my favorite
- 57:08S18: part of this.
- 57:08S3: We have something exciting. We have some tickets that we're
- 57:11S3: actually giving away now. This will allow you to get
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- 57:37S7: You're listening to Curl and Crew on Moody Radio.
- 57:41S1: Okay, before I do my or my trumpet call and
- 57:45S1: I'm going to do that. Oh, guys, have we got
- 57:48S1: a beautiful setup for this, the three legged stool that
- 57:51S1: we were talking about this last hour of discipleship, knowing, doing, sharing.
- 57:57S1: It's one thing to know, it's another thing to do,
- 58:00S1: and it's another thing to hit the button and send it.
- 58:04S16: Share it now with me.
- 58:08S1: You know where I'm going.
- 58:09S3: I, um, I don't.
- 58:11S1: You don't.
- 58:11S3: I don't know.
- 58:13S19: That was the best answer ever. Sorry, I.
- 58:17S1: I don't. Okay. All right. So so here's the deal.
- 58:22S1: We've got this deal and and let me explain it
- 58:25S1: this way.
- 58:26S6: Do do do do do do do do do do
- 58:28S6: do do do do do do do do do do
- 58:31S6: do do do.
- 58:33S1: My trumpets not working really well but it's it's there.
- 58:35S1: Well so here's the deal. We've got this video thing now.
- 58:40S1: We've got 70 plus links that have gone out so
- 58:44S1: people know about it. Some people might be doing it,
- 58:48S1: but we have yet to have one person share it
- 58:51S1: back with us yet. So we got a red alert
- 58:55S1: going here. So cast the vision for this thing, Ali.
- 58:58S1: And we got to have some folks do some discipleship principles,
- 59:02S1: even with this offer that we're giving them.
- 59:05S3: Now I got you. Yeah, we are doing this for
- 59:07S3: our upcoming spring share, and we are inviting you, our listener,
- 59:11S3: to share a testimonial. If there's something specific that you
- 59:15S3: can point to that God has used Moody Radio for
- 59:18S3: help to take a next step, maybe helped you take
- 59:20S3: a first step. We're simply asking you in video form
- 59:24S3: to share that, and we're going to put together a compilation.
- 59:27S3: It's going to be a great, great project. We've been
- 59:31S3: working on. So are you willing to do that? 70
- 59:33S3: of you have texted to get the information we've given
- 59:36S3: you like a week to get these things recorded, but
- 59:39S3: obviously sooner is better. So if you are able to
- 59:43S3: willing to give glory to God, share that testimony. Text
- 59:46S3: video to 800 555 7898. We're not going to talk
- 59:51S3: much about it after this week, after today. So this
- 59:55S3: is going to kind of be a last call sort
- 59:57S3: of thing. So go ahead and text video to 800
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- 1:00:06S3: computer with a webcam. And most of them nowadays have
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- 1:00:18S3: Text video to (800) 555-7898.
- 1:00:22S1: Guys. And if some of you are wondering, man, is
- 1:00:25S1: this toot my own horn? No, this has got it working. You.
- 1:00:28S2: Yeah. We're celebrating God's faithfulness. Yeah, that's all we're doing.
- 1:00:32S1: Yeah. And so we're we're needing you to jump in here,
- 1:00:36S1: grab the link. Do it. Just as God's Spirit. We
- 1:00:40S1: want God's Spirit prompting you, for sure. But we're asking
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- 1:00:47S1: of you have stories that like peel, paint. It's like
- 1:00:50S1: strip it right down to the raw wood. It's like,
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- 1:01:14S1: Could be financial stewardship as a result of this, uh,
- 1:01:19S1: there's myriad ways in which you can feature what God
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- 1:02:09S1: Our Olympic correspondent. It's 8:00 central time. Cathy is with us. Right?
- 1:02:13S1: We need some theme music.
- 1:02:15S2: Yeah. Hold on. Give me two.
- 1:02:16S1: Seconds. We gotta. We gotta have that loaded up. Hold
- 1:02:18S1: the phone.
- 1:02:19S2: And here you are.
- 1:02:20S1: Hold the phone. Cathy. Good to have you with us, sister.
- 1:02:31S20: Good morning.
- 1:02:32S1: All right. What do we need to know?
- 1:02:35S20: So there are 60 minutes in a hockey game and
- 1:02:38S20: 57 minutes and 56 seconds into the game. Everyone thought
- 1:02:44S20: the Canadian women would win the gold, but in the
- 1:02:48S20: final two minutes, the U.S. women sent the game into
- 1:02:51S20: overtime and then scored.
- 1:02:54S19: So that's exciting. Cathy.
- 1:02:58S3: There were the our American women did really well yesterday
- 1:03:02S3: all the way around. Talk about what else happened.
- 1:03:06S20: Um, well, it's been. Well, first, let's finish hockey. You know,
- 1:03:09S20: the women's U.S. team has medaled in every Olympics since
- 1:03:13S20: the event was introduced in 98. I think you called
- 1:03:16S20: that domination. Um, one of those women said, my grandma
- 1:03:21S20: always told me that girls don't play hockey. Well, it
- 1:03:24S20: turns out they grow up into women and they play
- 1:03:26S20: hockey and they win gold medals.
- 1:03:29S19: Love it.
- 1:03:30S1: Yeah, it's just great. And that overtime goal. That's the
- 1:03:33S1: only I didn't see the one that tied it with
- 1:03:35S1: the with like just a couple of minutes left in regulation.
- 1:03:38S1: But the one that they won with in overtime. Oh
- 1:03:41S1: my word. It was absolutely beautiful. Little move to the left.
- 1:03:45S1: Little juke to the right. Hockey puck between the skate
- 1:03:48S1: and the and the hockey stick of Canada. And then
- 1:03:53S1: tapped right into the net. Oh it was a beautiful
- 1:03:56S1: it was a beautiful score. Um. Awesome highlights. All right.
- 1:03:59S1: What else do we need to know, Cathy?
- 1:04:01S20: So, you know, it's been 24 years since team USA
- 1:04:05S20: won gold in women's single figure skating, but Alysa Liu
- 1:04:09S20: changed that. Still, sportsmanship rules even though her score was
- 1:04:14S20: guaranteed to give her a medal despite all the stakes,
- 1:04:18S20: she sat at the Rinkside at the sideline and clapped
- 1:04:21S20: and cheered on her silver and bronze winning Japanese competitors.
- 1:04:26S20: And Carl, I think you have some backstory on Alissa
- 1:04:29S20: for us.
- 1:04:29S1: Oh my goodness. Well, I they kept saying, you know
- 1:04:33S1: this girl has she came back. She came back. So
- 1:04:36S1: I'm like, well came back from what? Somebody tell us
- 1:04:39S1: what's going on. And they didn't say what she came
- 1:04:41S1: back from. And probably because the story is a little
- 1:04:44S1: bit crazy. But her dad, Tiananmen Square, happened in China
- 1:04:49S1: back in the day. He immigrated to get away from it.
- 1:04:52S1: I don't know all the details around that, but all
- 1:04:54S1: I know is that when she was marching toward, I think,
- 1:04:56S1: the Olympics four years ago, was she in the Olympics
- 1:04:59S1: four years ago was just World Cup stuff.
- 1:05:03S20: Hard questions. You know the rule on that.
- 1:05:06S19: Okay. All right.
- 1:05:07S1: So anyway, whatever it was, China was actually touching base
- 1:05:11S1: with her stateside. So much so the State Department had
- 1:05:15S1: to get 24 over seven security around her family. Her
- 1:05:18S1: dad and herself. That's not good. And she got burned out.
- 1:05:23S1: And that probably was a contributing factor. She walked away
- 1:05:27S1: from the sport and said, I want to have friends.
- 1:05:29S1: I want to have fun. She set down the skates.
- 1:05:32S1: And would you believe the rest of the story is this.
- 1:05:34S1: She went skiing with some friends and loved the beauty
- 1:05:37S1: of kind of turning on skis, and it reminded her
- 1:05:40S1: of the skates. Picked him up in 2024 just to
- 1:05:44S1: go have fun and thought, no, my joy is coming
- 1:05:49S1: back for this sport and the rest is history.
- 1:05:51S19: Love that.
- 1:05:52S20: Wow.
- 1:05:53S19: I love that.
- 1:05:54S3: Comeback.
- 1:05:55S20: That's incredible. Yeah.
- 1:05:58S19: Okay.
- 1:05:58S20: Cathy Did any of you see the women's moguls finals?
- 1:06:02S20: I did, you know, these athletes mogul it down the slope,
- 1:06:05S20: do a flip off a ramp, moguls some more, and
- 1:06:08S20: then they slide across the finish line upright and fast.
- 1:06:12S20: So moguls.
- 1:06:13S1: More moguls. More. Yeah. I gotta tell you, it's a young.
- 1:06:18S1: It's a young person's sport because your knees are getting
- 1:06:21S1: blasted through those moguls. But what, uh, what's the outcome?
- 1:06:26S20: So two Americans, Lumley and Cough, upset the field and
- 1:06:29S20: brought home the gold and the silver.
- 1:06:32S19: Woo!
- 1:06:33S2: Go, America!
- 1:06:34S19: All right, Cathy, what's.
- 1:06:36S3: The medal count?
- 1:06:37S20: Um, our medal count for today is, I said, our
- 1:06:41S20: medal count. You know, even though when I'm on the slope,
- 1:06:44S20: I always avoid the black diamond. Difficult runs. But anyway,
- 1:06:49S20: our medal count today is, um, second place with 27 medals.
- 1:06:54S20: Nine gold. Italy's right behind us with 26 medals, nine
- 1:06:58S20: gold and Norway is still smoking everyone with 34 medals
- 1:07:02S20: and 16 gold.
- 1:07:04S19: Oh, boy. Yeah.
- 1:07:05S3: And then the last couple days before this whole thing
- 1:07:08S3: wraps on Sunday, I guess hockey. We have to look
- 1:07:12S3: forward to a big hockey match up. Anything else in
- 1:07:15S3: these closing days?
- 1:07:16S20: Yeah, I was just watching men. Aerials. Finals. Um, you know,
- 1:07:20S20: my new favorite event just ended. Also women's cross, which
- 1:07:24S20: is considered a contact sport. You got to go look
- 1:07:27S20: that up. And, um, and there's so much more today.
- 1:07:31S20: But I do want to give a shout out to Janet,
- 1:07:34S20: a potential World Cup boom crew correspondent and Moody alumni
- 1:07:38S20: who's been feeding me content all day and night. Thank you, Janet,
- 1:07:42S20: and the two most Olympic people in my life, my
- 1:07:46S20: mom and my dad, who happens to be a new believer.
- 1:07:50S20: But I hope you have Olympic caliber people in your
- 1:07:53S20: faith and your family and your life who help you
- 1:07:56S20: be the best, most Christlike version of you. So until
- 1:08:00S20: I answer the next call to report. Ciao.
- 1:08:03S3: Thank you so much, Cathy. Gold medal for Cathy. Come on.
- 1:08:09S1: You have Olympic level people in your life.
- 1:08:13S2: Come on. Go get some.
- 1:08:14S3: If you don't. Hello? Man these updates. That was the final,
- 1:08:19S3: last and final call. And crew. Winter Olympic correspondent update
- 1:08:23S3: from Cathy. And we are so grateful.
- 1:08:26S2: That's sad.
- 1:08:27S1: Yeah, it is kind of sad.
- 1:08:29S2: That was a good, good little time we had.
- 1:08:31S1: Take your vitamins, Cathy. We're going to need you for
- 1:08:34S1: years and years.
- 1:08:35S3: Summer. Two years. Oh, yeah.
- 1:08:37S2: Summer Olympics.
- 1:08:38S3: I love that someone else was, like, helping behind the scenes.
- 1:08:41S3: I know, like, she had her own personal producer. Yeah.
- 1:08:44S1: Who's Janet out there dishing her the goods?
- 1:08:46S3: Go, Janet. She had her own super di like. Like
- 1:08:49S3: she does for us.
- 1:08:51S17: That was so great.
- 1:08:52S3: That's amazing.
- 1:08:53S17: Thank you.